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Message started by tallowood on Aug 25th, 2026 at 9:20am

Title: populate or perish
Post by tallowood on Aug 25th, 2026 at 9:20am
Singapore has developed a package of measures to encourage families to have more children. Parents will receive over $55,000 per child.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGxgOEHw4Xc

Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by Carl D on Aug 25th, 2026 at 10:28am
Gee, I thought only countries like Australia were stupid enough to actually pay people to have more children.

The ill conceived (pun intended) Baby Bonus was a perfect example.

Populate or perish? These days it would be more accurate to say populate and perish.

Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by Dnarever on Aug 25th, 2026 at 10:42am
One day after you reach full population you would be by definition overpopulated. Too many people is the real problem for the world. A moderate population is probably the best position.

Though much of the western world including Australia do have a problem with women having no idea about how their bialogical clock works and this will accidentally reduce population. Women choosing to not have children till it's too late for them is a real pandemic. Most women do not know that they are at their reproduction peak till about 26 and from there it's on the down slide. they are around 50% before 30 and the vast majority infertile before 40. This is a sliding process the numbers are dropping as women become infertile, the 50% figure being 30'ish means that a substantial number of women are infertile by then its not all progressivle diminishing fertility. Many women are infertile before they start trying. For the vast majority after 35 IVF may be their only option a natural pregancy becomes less and less likely.

Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by Frank on Aug 25th, 2026 at 10:59am

Carl D wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 10:28am:
Gee, I thought only countries like Australia were stupid enough to actually pay people to have more children.

The ill conceived (pun intended) Baby Bonus was a perfect example.

Populate or perish? These days it would be more accurate to say populate and perish.

Well, you are gay so you would say that.


Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by Carl D on Aug 25th, 2026 at 11:31am

Frank wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 10:59am:
Well, you are gay so you would say that.


And here we have a perfect example of why a smaller population would be great.

Just imagine a country filled with Franks.

Oh, wait...

Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 25th, 2026 at 8:28pm
About 30% of our country is foreign born. Migrants sem to have a lower birthrate than Australian born. But, still the government of Australia floods the country with millions of new migrants. And the Australian born are feeling the need to have one less child per family compared to the last generation of Australians. More people in Australia meant that house prices go up to be difficult to pay off.

Maybe I am just part of the low-income Aussie-raised white Generation Xer. However, I won't be confident that my children will be willing to raise children when they cannot afford to buy an overpriced home.

Australia could support a population of 40 million people quite okay. However, the major cities are practically full. Albanese's idiotic pitch to "scrap the regional development" to be metropolitan centric was something that really irked me. If we decentralised industries and had major regional centres producing what is produced in the major cities of Australia, employment opportunities will follow. And then there is a release of population pressure in major cities. Rural and regional areas will develop to their potential.

Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by Frank on Aug 25th, 2026 at 8:35pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 11:31am:

Frank wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 10:59am:
Well, you are gay so you would say that.


And here we have a perfect example of why a smaller population would be great.

Just imagine a country filled with Franks.

Oh, wait...

Well, you ARE gay.

Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by Frank on Aug 25th, 2026 at 8:38pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 8:28pm:
About 30% of our country is foreign born. Migrants sem to have a lower birthrate than Australian born. .

Untrue.

Go by any suburban school at 3 pm.


Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 25th, 2026 at 9:45pm

Frank wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 8:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 8:28pm:
About 30% of our country is foreign born. Migrants sem to have a lower birthrate than Australian born. .

Untrue.

Go by any suburban school at 3 pm.


I have. Not that I really pay attention to students walking out of school grounds -- according to the police officer who booked me for doing a couple of km/h under the speed limit outside of a school zone. Yet, I live in a regional town. If you live in one of the major cities, you are probably looking at migrants' grandchildren exiting the school grounds. I bet their parents are mainly Australian born.

Migrants in the Sydney region, according to an ABC news segment a few months ago, have fewer than 1 child per family. Given Sydney's low birth rate, much of the low birth rates are attributed to new migrants who are here to take advantage of employment opportunities.

Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by Frank on Aug 25th, 2026 at 10:05pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 9:45pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 8:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 8:28pm:
About 30% of our country is foreign born. Migrants sem to have a lower birthrate than Australian born. .

Untrue.

Go by any suburban school at 3 pm.


I have. Not that I really pay attention to students walking out of school grounds -- according to the police officer who booked me for doing a couple of km/h under the speed limit outside of a school zone. Yet, I live in a regional town. If you live in one of the major cities, you are probably looking at migrants' grandchildren exiting the school grounds. I bet their parents are mainly Australian born.

Migrants in the Sydney region, according to an ABC news segment a few months ago, have fewer than 1 child per family. Given Sydney's low birth rate, much of the low birth rates are attributed to new migrants who are here to take advantage of employment opportunities.

You are half remembering ABC nonsense.

Almost 50 % of the population is
Overseas born or
Has one parent (at least) who is overseas born.



With India ( hindu, paki, shikh), China, Nepal, Vietnam, Philippines, Lebanon and assorted Muslim counries like Iran. Afghanistan, Turkey, Syria etc replacing Europeans, the demographic transformation is starkly evident. Unlike Europeans, these immigrants do not, cannot, assimilate. They form an underclass until they numerically overwhelm Australians who will then become a despised minority.
The same is unfolding in Western Europe and North America.



Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 25th, 2026 at 10:29pm
Well, I would not really know. My Rockhamptonite associates are part of the mostly white community that are replacing and populating regional centres, much like other mainly white regional centres. We have noticed that there are a lot of people from New South Wales making their way north to towns like here, because they don't like the way things are going on in NSW.

Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by tallowood on Aug 26th, 2026 at 8:36am

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 8:28pm:
About 30% of our country is foreign born. 


According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Singapore

Quote:
Foreign-born individuals make up over 40 percent of Singapore's total population, totaling roughly 2.84 million people.


Quote:
Additionally, immigration is controlled to maintain the relative demographics of race in Singapore within the at roughly 75% ethnic Chinese, 15% Malay and 7% Indian, with a remaining 1–3% belonging to "other races"



Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by Grappler Racist Filth on Aug 26th, 2026 at 11:56am
Indeed - populate and perish is the watchword... we cannot save them all and we cannot employ them all, and this country has limited living space for mass populations...

Adopt the Grappler Plan immediately - divide up the states into congenial regional states and leave the excrement filled (in many ways) cities to fend for themselves... let the regional New States make their own laws, determine their own immigration mix and such and lead a better life.

The overpowering centrally controlled from mega population centres states are stifling the Regions.. loading all their BS onto them - BS derived in their halls of 'power' and 'education', from which they gaze from their ivory towers padded against all woes with public money through their myopic telescopes and feel that somehow they 'feel the movement in the force' and know with immaculate deception what is true and what is not... and then dictate what will be done.

Time to free ourselves from these tiny-minded and brain-damaged fools...

Guess where all our people are coming from on the attached map .. tell me why ...
world_population_density.jpg (14 KB | 10 )

Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by Dnarever on Aug 26th, 2026 at 12:33pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 11:31am:

Frank wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 10:59am:
Well, you are gay so you would say that.


And here we have a perfect example of why a smaller population would be great.

Just imagine a country filled with Franks.

Oh, wait...


The USA have enough Franks to elect a guy named Don.

Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 26th, 2026 at 1:24pm
I thought there were spots of densely populated areas in the outback of Australia. But a quick scroll down proved that my monitor needed a cleaning.

Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 26th, 2026 at 1:28pm
Better for India to adopt the term "depopulate or perish". See if they can race China to get their population down to 500 million first.

Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by Frank on Aug 26th, 2026 at 10:00pm

Dnarever wrote on Aug 26th, 2026 at 12:33pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 11:31am:

Frank wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 10:59am:
Well, you are gay so you would say that.


And here we have a perfect example of why a smaller population would be great.

Just imagine a country filled with Franks.

Oh, wait...


The USA have enough Franks to elect a guy named Don.

You are gay too. Dressed in duck feathers.
You are Leonard to Carl's Derek.





Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by Gnads on Aug 27th, 2026 at 1:05pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 8:28pm:
About 30% of our country is foreign born. Migrants sem to have a lower birthrate than Australian born. But, still the government of Australia floods the country with millions of new migrants. And the Australian born are feeling the need to have one less child per family compared to the last generation of Australians. More people in Australia meant that house prices go up to be difficult to pay off.

Maybe I am just part of the low-income Aussie-raised white Generation Xer. However, I won't be confident that my children will be willing to raise children when they cannot afford to buy an overpriced home.

Australia could support a population of 40 million people quite okay. However, the major cities are practically full. Albanese's idiotic pitch to "scrap the regional development" to be metropolitan centric was something that really irked me. If we decentralised industries and had major regional centres producing what is produced in the major cities of Australia, employment opportunities will follow. And then there is a release of population pressure in major cities. Rural and regional areas will develop to their potential.


Yeah? How the hell would you know that? If our cities are bursting at the seams ....

where are all these extra millions going to go?

what are they going to be employed doing?

and who's building the infrastructure to accommodate an extra 11 to 12 million?

Not the idiots at the wheel now that's for sure.

Maybe they'll take the welfare benefits off long term bludgers like you ....

you won't have to worry Mum & Dad will carry the can for you.

You must be an only child because you sure sound like one.

Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by Gnads on Aug 27th, 2026 at 1:09pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 9:45pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 8:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 8:28pm:
About 30% of our country is foreign born. Migrants sem to have a lower birthrate than Australian born. .

Untrue.

Go by any suburban school at 3 pm.


I have. Not that I really pay attention to students walking out of school grounds -- according to the police officer who booked me for doing a couple of km/h under the speed limit outside of a school zone. Yet, I live in a regional town. If you live in one of the major cities, you are probably looking at migrants' grandchildren exiting the school grounds. I bet their parents are mainly Australian born.

Migrants in the Sydney region, according to an ABC news segment a few months ago, have fewer than 1 child per family. Given Sydney's low birth rate, much of the low birth rates are attributed to new migrants who are here to take advantage of employment opportunities.


You live in a city of 85,000 people.

Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by tallowood on Aug 27th, 2026 at 1:25pm

Quote:
Singapore became one of the entry and dispersal points for a large number of Chinese and Indian migrants who came to work in the plantations and mines of the Straits Settlements, some of whom then settled in Singapore after their contracts ended. By 1860, the total population had reached around 90,000, of these 50,000 were Chinese, and 2,445 Europeans and Eurasians. The first thorough census in Singapore was undertaken in 1871, and it showed that Chinese were the largest ethnic group at 57.6%. In 1901, the total population of Singapore was 228,555, with 15.8% Malays, 71.8% Chinese, 7.8% Indians, and 3.5% Europeans and Eurasians.
The Chinese population of Singapore has stayed at over 70% of the total ever since.

Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 28th, 2026 at 1:55am

Gnads wrote on Aug 27th, 2026 at 1:05pm:
Yeah? How the hell would you know that? If our cities are bursting at the seams ....

where are all these extra millions going to go?

what are they going to be employed doing?

and who's building the infrastructure to accommodate an extra 11 to 12 million?

Not the idiots at the wheel now that's for sure.

Maybe they'll take the welfare benefits off long term bludgers like you ....

you won't have to worry Mum & Dad will carry the can for you.

You must be an only child because you sure sound like one.


Did you read the part where I wrote "If we decentralised industries and had major regional centres producing what is produced in the major cities of Australia, employment opportunities will follow. And then there is a release of population pressure in major cities. Rural and regional areas will develop to their potential"?

The idea being that we grow the towns, rather than the cities. But, with Albo focused on keeping the industries and employment opportunities mainly in the major cities, regional centres have to rely on mining and other primary industries to keep afloat.

At least 17 million Australians live in the major cities, out of a total of 27 million. I don't expect that we keep trying to grow the cities. But that seems to be the game plan of the federal and state governments. Regional towns and minor cities could probably double or triple in population over the next 50 years and take the pressure off cities. But we are not going to be able to do that if the employment opportunities are not there.

As for your personal insults, it is not necessary. Why are you such a whingeing bitch, anyway? You should just rock up to Dan Murphy's and grab yourself a large bottle of bourbon and just have an afternoon and evening boozing away. Maybe then you will settle down and have a new perspective of things.

Mum and Dad have received an offer on this house. But they are waiting for me to leave before they consider any offer. I will be getting a second job soon, anyway. That will mean that I will have to reorganise my current part-time job around this new full-time job. And I will have to scrap the upcoming training in a related job that I was going to do next month.

Title: Re: populate or perish
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 28th, 2026 at 1:56am

Gnads wrote on Aug 27th, 2026 at 1:09pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 9:45pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 8:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 25th, 2026 at 8:28pm:
About 30% of our country is foreign born. Migrants sem to have a lower birthrate than Australian born. .

Untrue.

Go by any suburban school at 3 pm.


I have. Not that I really pay attention to students walking out of school grounds -- according to the police officer who booked me for doing a couple of km/h under the speed limit outside of a school zone. Yet, I live in a regional town. If you live in one of the major cities, you are probably looking at migrants' grandchildren exiting the school grounds. I bet their parents are mainly Australian born.

Migrants in the Sydney region, according to an ABC news segment a few months ago, have fewer than 1 child per family. Given Sydney's low birth rate, much of the low birth rates are attributed to new migrants who are here to take advantage of employment opportunities.


You live in a city of 85,000 people.


Thank you, Captain Obvious.

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