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Message started by Ai_Killed_Humanity on Aug 17th, 2026 at 7:13pm

Title: Nazis, Israelis, who's worst ?
Post by Ai_Killed_Humanity on Aug 17th, 2026 at 7:13pm
Israeli minister calls for killing ’30 to 40′ Palestinians in Gaza nightly

Israel’s far-right national security minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir, says Israeli forces should “kill 30 or 40” people in Gaza every night and go beyond “those who pose a danger … at that particular moment”.

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In the discussion, Ben-Gvir also called for Palestinians to be encouraged to leave Gaza permanently, alongside new Israeli settlement of the territory, telling Braslavski he saw “all of Gaza as ours”, a comment he has repeated on many occasions.

International lawyers have warned that mass, forced or engineered emigration of this kind could amount to ethnic cleansing.



https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/8/16/israeli-minister-calls-for-killing-30-to-40-palestinians-in-gaza-nightly


Nazis, or Israelis, who's worst ?

Title: Re: Nazis, Israelis, who's worst ?
Post by Jasin on Aug 17th, 2026 at 7:26pm
You're a dickhead. ::)

Title: Re: Nazis, Israelis, who's worst ?
Post by Ai_Killed_Humanity on Aug 17th, 2026 at 7:27pm
"Holocaust inversion," equate Israeli security measures in the West Bank and Gaza—such as checkpoints, blockades, and settlement expansion—with Nazi tactics like ghettoisation and Lebensraum.

Gaza's blockade to the Warsaw Ghetto and settlement policies to Nazi territorial expansion.

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wikipedia :

1940s
Comparisons between Zionism and Nazism predate the foundation of Israel in 1948. In 1945, British Army officer and politician Edward Spears compared political Zionism to the Nazi idea of Lebensraum.[4][6] German-Jewish linguist and anti-fascist Victor Klemperer, who survived the Holocaust and chose not to move to Israel but to stay in Germany after 1945, wrote in his LTI - Lingua Tertii Imperii (The Language of the Third Reich) that both Zionism and Nazism are essentially neo-Romantic nationalist ideologies.[7][8] After the assassination of Lord Moyne by the Zionist militant group Lehi, Winston Churchill gave a speech in the House of Commons, declaring:

If our dreams for Zionism are to end in the smoke of assassins' pistols, and our labours for its future to produce only a new set of gangsters worthy of Nazi Germany, many like myself will have to reconsider the position we have maintained so consistently and so long in the past.[17][18]

Following the Sergeants affair, the American consul in Jerusalem concluded:

During the time of the Nazis it was a commonplace to hear the opinion that Hitler and his followers were deluded to the point where their sanity was questionable. If such generalisations are permissible, it may be well to question whether the Zionists, in their present emotional state, can be dealt with as rational human beings.[19]

In 1948, Hannah Arendt, Albert Einstein and a number of other Jewish public figures signed an open letter which compared Tnuat Haherut, an early Jewish nationalist political party founded by Menachem Begin, to Nazism.[5][20] Arendt's views on Zionism and Israel varied widely over time, while Einstein supported the idea of a Jewish homeland in Palestine, but not that of a Jewish state.[21][22]


1960s
In the context of the Six-Day War, official statements by the Soviet Union administration compared Israeli tactics to those of Nazi Germany during the Second World War.[12] After the victory of Likud in the 1977 Israeli legislative election, Holocaust metaphors began to be used by the Israeli right-wing to describe their left-wing opponents.[26]


1980s
Israeli philosopher Yeshayahu Leibowitz introduced the term "Judeo-Nazis", suggesting that continued military occupation of the Palestinian territories would lead to the moral degradation of the Israeli Defense Force (IDF), with individuals committing atrocities for state security interests.[27][28] In 2018, Noam Chomsky said of Leibowitz's prediction, "I think that's what you are seeing in Israel."[29]


more :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany

Title: Re: Nazis, Israelis, who's worst ?
Post by Ai_Killed_Humanity on Aug 17th, 2026 at 7:28pm

Jasin wrote on Aug 17th, 2026 at 7:26pm:
You're a dickhead. ::)



Deflection means you agree.

Title: Re: Nazis, Israelis, who's worst ?
Post by Ai_Killed_Humanity on Aug 17th, 2026 at 7:31pm
In December 2023, during the Gaza war, the mayor of Metula David Azoulai said in an interview: "The whole Gaza Strip needs to be empty. Flattened. Just like in Auschwitz. Let it be a museum for all the world to see what Israel can do. Let no one reside in the Gaza Strip for all the world to see, because October 7 was in a way a second Holocaust." The remarks were condemned by a spokesperson for the Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum who said they may sound like "a call for murder of the scale akin to Auschwitz".[45]

On 18 February 2025, Ofer Cassif, a far-left politician of the Knesset and member of the Hadash–Ta'al party, tweeted a comparison between Israel's plans to encourage voluntary migration of Palestinians from Gaza and the flight of the German Jews to other countries during World War II. His tweet was criticised by other Knesset members. For instance, Otzma Yehudit MK Almog Cohen filed a complaint to the Knesset Ethics Committee about "his vile and disgraceful comparison" and called Cassif a "terrorist supporter". In response, right-wing Knesset lawmakers called for Cassif's impeachment.[46]

Moshe Feiglin compared both Israelis and Palestinians to Nazis, saying: "As Hitler, may his name be erased, once said: 'I cannot live in this world if there is one Jew left in it,' we could not live in this land if even one such Islamo-Nazi remains in Gaza, and not before we return to Gaza and turn it into Hebrew Gaza."[47]

In January 2026, former Israeli defence minister Moshe Ya'alon posted a tweet on X, comparing Jewish supremacy in Israel to Nazism, stating: 'The ideology of "Jewish supremacy", which has become dominant in the Israeli government, resembles Nazi racial theory'. The post came after the increase of Israeli settler attacks against Palestinians in the West Bank and described them as "Jewish pogromists".[48] In April, Tamir Pardo, the former head of Mossad from 2011 to 2016, said on Channel 13 comparing the violence by Israeli settlers in the West Bank to The Holocaust, stating, "My mother was a Holocaust survivor, and what I saw reminded me of the events that happened against Jews in the last century."[49][50]



wikipedia

Title: Re: Nazis, Israelis, who's worst ?
Post by Frank on Aug 17th, 2026 at 9:30pm
If the sons of Mohammed had accepted the UN decision in 1948, they would be livinn in peace and prospeity, side by side, within those 1948 borders.

But the sons of Mohammed are not reasoning or reasonable people.

islam is worse than Nazism - it has lasted, to hideous effect, for centuries longer.

Title: Re: Nazis, Israelis, who's worst ?
Post by Ai_Killed_Humanity on Aug 18th, 2026 at 1:32am
Even before the events of 7 October 2023 and the war that followed, more than a third of Germans polled said they believed that what Israel was doing to the Palestinian people was “in principle the same thing the Nazis did to the Jews in the Third Reich”.

Public opinion has since soured further, with more than 60 percent of Germans now favouring European sanctions on Israel.


Comparisons between Israel and Nazi Germany have been part of academic, philosophical and legal debates since the establishment of the state of Israel, founded in 1948 amid the brutal extermination and ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Palestinian population.

These comparisons have long appeared in discussions of Palestinian, Israeli and German memory, identity and moral reflection. Shoah and Nakba both mean “catastrophe”, and scholars such as Amos Goldberg and Bashir Bashir have examined them as interconnected national traumas.

They raise questions of historical responsibility and inherited guilt, especially regarding how the memory of one catastrophe shapes the interpretation of another.

The interconnection also remains visible in contemporary German discourse on Jewish memory: in 2023, Masha Gessen compared Gaza to Jewish ghettos under Nazi occupation, sparking controversy around the Hannah Arendt Prize.

The controversy reveals a particular German claim to authority over how Jewish memory may be invoked and how Palestinian suffering may be compared to it.

During the First Intifada, some Israeli soldiers described identifying with the Nazis while witnessing the persecution of Palestinians, with one revealing in a study on the 1987-93 uprising: “I felt like, like, like a Nazi … it looked exactly like we were actually the Nazis and they were the Jews.”


https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/german-court-ruling-israel-nazi-comparison-step-right-direction



Title: Re: Nazis, Israelis, who's worst ?
Post by Ai_Killed_Humanity on Aug 18th, 2026 at 1:42am

Quote:
If the sons of Mohammed had accepted the UN decision in 1948, they would be livinn in peace and prospeity, side by side, within those 1948 borders.


UN Resolution 181, adopted on November 29, 1947 (not 1948), recommended partitioning Mandatory Palestine into independent Arab and Jewish states, with Jerusalem established as a corpus separatum under international administration.

The resolution allocated approximately 56% of the land to the proposed Jewish state and 43% to the Arab state.  While the Jewish leadership accepted the plan, Arab leaders rejected it as unfair to the Arab majority population.  Following the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, the 1949 Armistice Agreements established the Green Line, which served as Israel's de facto borders until 1967, though these lines were explicitly defined as temporary military demarcations rather than permanent political boundaries.


In 1947, the concept of Greater Israel (Eretz Yisrael HaShlema) represented a maximalist territorial vision among certain Zionist factions, distinct from the political reality of the UN Partition Plan.  While Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion and the pragmatic Labor Zionist leadership accepted UN Resolution 181, which allocated approximately 56% of Mandatory Palestine to a Jewish state, they viewed this as a tactical first step rather than a final boundary.

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