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Title: Will the Anus be fired? Post by Jasin on Aug 14th, 2026 at 4:50pm
Lefties. Biden was FIRED!
Starmer was FIRED! ...will the Anus be FIRED as well? Place your bets in the poll above. I'm betting it will be a Lefty Trifecta. ;D |
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Title: Re: Will the Anus be fired? Post by Vic on Aug 14th, 2026 at 5:01pm Jasin wrote on Aug 14th, 2026 at 4:50pm:
Regrettably for you Jasin, Mr Albanese and Labor will comfortably win the next election. He is the most popular of the Leaders of the other parties, Labor is well ahead in the polls and the Liberals contune to slide into insignificance, along with the Nats. One Neuron will continue to be a problem for a while, but will have to align with someone to have an effect. I think they will increase their seats as well. The BIG LIE that people are ventilating over regarding negative gearing has lost most of it’s momentum as people realise the only ones complaining are Cheese Grater Dave Hughes and a few Millionaires. Sorry Jasin - no soup for you (love that Seinfield ep) |
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Title: Re: Will the Anus be fired? Post by Jasin on Aug 14th, 2026 at 5:24pm
Ahhh. It 'may' look that way sure.
But we've seen such all knowing (Media) Polls get it SOOO wrong when it comes to the moment of the Election itself. Bye bye ALP. But most importantly. Everything happens in threes Vic. ;) |
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Title: Re: Will the Anus be fired? Post by Jasin on Aug 15th, 2026 at 11:52am
Let's remember. The Left FIRE the likes of Biden, Starmer and even Jacinta Allen to ROB the citizens of the satisfaction of hanging them instead come election.
The same will be done with the Anus. So he can call it retirement. |
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Title: Re: Will the Anus be fired? Post by tallowood on Aug 15th, 2026 at 1:39pm
Albo is under Zelensky curse
So he will go unless Zelya goes first. |
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Title: Re: Will the Anus be fired? Post by Jasin on Aug 15th, 2026 at 1:46pm
Oh no. Did he really kiss the Clown?
Yuck! |
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Title: Re: Will the Anus be fired? Post by Frank on Aug 15th, 2026 at 2:23pm Vic wrote on Aug 14th, 2026 at 5:01pm:
Albo & Co have lost their credibility. Q. Mr Albanese, would he rule out any change to negative gearing and the capital gains discount if he were re-elected? A. Yes, he said. How hard is it. For the fiftieth time. Last October the government widened its five-per-cent deposit scheme. It removed the income test. It removed the queue. It lifted the price limits. It put the Commonwealth behind part of the loan, so that a buyer with almost nothing could borrow almost everything without paying mortgage insurance. In the nine months that followed, more than fifty thousand young Australians took the offer. They did not buy in a vacuum. They bought at prices that had been set in a market repeatedly assured, by the Prime Minister himself, that the tax rules holding those prices up would not be touched. Then they were touched. Strip out the two concessions altogether and the sums are brutal. For the investor to make what he made before, house prices would have to fall by something like two-fifths. Or rents would have to rise by about two-thirds. Those are not the numbers the government used. The government said prices would grow a little more slowly for a year or two, and that the typical rent would go up by less than two dollars a week. Two dollars a week. The market has already given its answer. The banks report that loan applications have fallen sharply since the budget. Investors have pulled back hardest, first home buyers not far behind. Prices are falling in Sydney and Melbourne. The Governor of the Reserve Bank has conceded that the market has softened faster than the Bank expected, and her chief economist has said plainly that the Bank will not be riding to the rescue. Look at where the money has gone, because it tells you everything. Despite a slump, investors are still buying new houses, which keep the tax break. They have all but stopped buying established ones, which do not. That is not a market adjusting to a small change. That is a market walking away. Of the two changes, it is the end of negative gearing that does the damage. Paul Keating tried the same thing once before. He restored it twenty-six months later. Which brings us to the promise the whole scheme now rests upon. We are asked to believe that new houses will keep negative gearing and the discount for good. This one carve-out, we are told, is permanent. Consider what it is. It is the last shelter left standing. It is therefore the obvious thing to knock down when the money runs short. It is defended by a shrinking band of investors, since every grandfathered owner who sells takes his protection with him. And it is guaranteed by the same men who guaranteed the thing it replaced, in the same words, from the same seat in the same chamber. I would not buy a house on the strength of it. Judging by their behaviour, nor will anybody else. Meanwhile, the fifty thousand keep paying. Interest rates have risen three times. Their arrears are running at nearly double the rate of other borrowers. In this country a mortgage follows you. A borrower who owes more than his house is worth cannot post the keys back to the bank and walk away. He goes on paying, year after year, for something worth less than he paid. Behind him stands the taxpayer, who guaranteed the loan, on a market the Commonwealth then set out to bring down. The bottom line is simple. The market has to clear. It can only do so through lower prices or higher rents, and probably through both. Which of the two does more of the work is a question about supply, and about politics. But it will be one or the other. The fifty thousand are exposed to the first. Every renter in the country is exposed to the second. There is no third way out. They were told, fifty times, that there would be no need for one. Peter Swan AO is an emeritus professor in the UNSW-Sydney Business School. Labor *ucked up the housing market a great deal more. Plus they are importing hundreds of thounds still. What to like?? |
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Title: Re: Will the Anus be fired? Post by Vic on Aug 15th, 2026 at 2:54pm Frank wrote on Aug 15th, 2026 at 2:23pm:
Frank, if this departure from policy had been like Shorten did, before an election - then Albanese would lose. Abbott lied, Turnbull lied, Morrison lied. The only people who are NOW whining about Albanese lying are the crater faced $10 Mil property owner Dave Hughes and a few Millionaires. As the true impact of negative gearing hits home, less and less people seem concerned about it. By the end of this year, it will be done and dusted, forgotten and gone. The faux paus with Kylie Minoge and melons is passing and Albanese is the preferred PM and increasing in popularity. |
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Title: Re: Will the Anus be fired? Post by Vic on Aug 15th, 2026 at 3:03pm
"Which brings us to the promise the whole scheme now rests upon.
We are asked to believe that new houses will keep negative gearing and the discount for good. This one carve-out, we are told, is permanent. Consider what it is. It is the last shelter left standing. It is therefore the obvious thing to knock down when the money runs short. It is defended by a shrinking band of investors, since every grandfathered owner who sells takes his protection with him. And it is guaranteed by the same men who guaranteed the thing it replaced, in the same words, from the same seat in the same chamber. I would not buy a house on the strength of it. Judging by their behaviour, nor will anybody else.” You know what p#sses me off about Professors and other know alls? They are not the desperate middle and lower classes trying to buy a home. They are not the ones who will do two or three jobs to make the mortgage, they are not the ones so desperate to get a house that they will lie on every form to get the loan. People ARE buying - they must be - every ex housing commission home in a town near where I live is sold within a week - all around the 550 - 650K mark. Houses that are 50 or 60 years old, but refurbished. The swanky places - sure - big downturn - but houses are still being sold Cheese Grater Face Dave Hughes and a few Millionaires are losing negative gearing, something the majority of Australians do NOT have. Barring any further c3ckups by Albanese, Labor will poop it in |
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Title: Re: Will the Anus be fired? Post by Frank on Aug 15th, 2026 at 3:20pm Vic wrote on Aug 15th, 2026 at 3:03pm:
The market has already given its answer. The banks report that loan applications have fallen sharply since the budget. Investors have pulled back hardest, first home buyers not far behind. Prices are falling in Sydney and Melbourne. The Governor of the Reserve Bank has conceded that the market has softened faster than the Bank expected, and her chief economist has said plainly that the Bank will not be riding to the rescue. Look at where the money has gone, because it tells you everything. Despite a slump, investors are still buying new houses, which keep the tax break. They have all but stopped buying established ones, which do not. That is not a market adjusting to a small change. That is a market walking away. Of the two changes, it is the end of negative gearing that does the damage. Paul Keating tried the same thing once before. He restored it twenty-six months later. Which brings us to the promise the whole scheme now rests upon. We are asked to believe that new houses will keep negative gearing and the discount for good. This one carve-out, we are told, is permanent. Consider what it is. It is the last shelter left standing. It is therefore the obvious thing to knock down when the money runs short. It is defended by a shrinking band of investors, since every grandfathered owner who sells takes his protection with him. And it is guaranteed by the same men who guaranteed the thing it replaced, in the same words, from the same seat in the same chamber. I would not buy a house on the strength of it. Judging by their behaviour, nor will anybody else. There is a further unfairness, and it runs the opposite way to the rhetoric. A landlord who owns several properties can still set his losses against the rent from the others. He carries on much as before. A landlord who owns one has nothing to set them against. He must wait, perhaps for decades, until he sells. Large trusts and superannuation funds escape the changes entirely. A reform sold as levelling the ground for first home buyers has quietly levelled it inside the investor class as well, in favour of those who already have most. And where prices are stopped from falling, the cost lands on tenants. Not two dollars a week. Meanwhile, the fifty thousand keep paying. Interest rates have risen three times. Their arrears are running at nearly double the rate of other borrowers. In this country a mortgage follows you. A borrower who owes more than his house is worth cannot post the keys back to the bank and walk away. He goes on paying, year after year, for something worth less than he paid. Behind him stands the taxpayer, who guaranteed the loan, on a market the Commonwealth then set out to bring down. The bottom line is simple. The market has to clear. It can only do so through lower prices or higher rents, and probably through both. Which of the two does more of the work is a question about supply, and about politics. But it will be one or the other. The fifty thousand are exposed to the first. Every renter in the country is exposed to the second. There is no third way out. They were told, fifty times, that there would be no need for one. ibid The professors are not suffering personally. But you don't have to be suffering from a fatal disease to be a profesor of medicine. The same way you do not have to personally suffer from government idiocies to be able to point out such idiocies. Albo survived the last election against the odds, largely thanks to the even greater ineptitude of the Coalistion over the last 10+ years. If he survives again it will be for the same reason, not because he or his band merits it. |
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Title: Re: Will the Anus be fired? Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 15th, 2026 at 3:43pm
A couple of years ago, when the Voice to Free Rides was defeated in a referendum, I recall the whingeing from the indigenous supremacists who had expected to get things to go their way. Many Australians started getting irritated that the free rides indigenous Australians were receiving. Recently, we have seen the number of Indian migrants overtake the English as our no. 1 migrant population in Australia. Given the struggle that the majority of Australians have endured in trying to pay off high house prices, and enduring the racially discriminatory policies seemingly in place in the last few years -- possibly as a result of Albanese's metropolitan based policies -- most Australians (especially the Australian born) have lost faith in the Labor Party.
You can probably bet that Australia will vote out Albanese in the next Federal election. |
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Title: Re: Will the Anus be fired? Post by Bobby. on Aug 15th, 2026 at 4:20pm UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 15th, 2026 at 3:43pm:
I hope Albo loses his seat like Howard did. |
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Title: Re: Will the Anus be fired? Post by Vic on Aug 15th, 2026 at 4:24pm UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 15th, 2026 at 3:43pm:
At the moment, that seems highly unlikely. Barring some huge c@ckup on Labor’s part they are on track for another huge win. Labor are leading in all opinion polls, Albanese is preferred PM by a long shot. Albanese might lose his seat - but highly unlikely also as he has comfortably held it for many elections and pre-selections The Opposition, on the other hand are so on the nose it is a wonder they even turn up. Dim Tim, the Shadow Treasurer is a pre-pubescent person who - by his questions, remarks and public interviews - has no idea or clue what the job of Shadow Treasurer is! He is constantly being ridiculed by the Government when he is not being thrown out. His book - that he wrote around 2016 i- s full of support for the very same policies that Labor are putting forward now. Angus Taylor is now surrounded by corruption allegations and may soon be fronting ICAC - along with some high powered names. Waiting in the wings is Hastie - but support for him is falling rapidly if you can believe some of the more reputable pollsters. There is no viable Opposition to Labor at the moment - nor does it look like there will be for years to come. The harm Abbott, Morrison and Dutton have done is (in my opinion) irreversible. Every time the Opposition have tried to put it to Labor, they have been shot down and had the tables turned. Think Tomago is expensive, look at Malcom’s Folly - Snowy 2. Wow - the money that has be spent to date and more to come is mind blowing. Morrisons Subs? That hasn’t even begun to be fully costed. But wait, there’s more (no steak knives here) It is a never ending unfolding of LNP incompetence, that will see the lightly incompetent ALP sink the very incompetent LNP at the next election. The only thing is (with the status quo) is by how many? |
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Title: Re: Will the Anus be fired? Post by Frank on Aug 15th, 2026 at 10:04pm Vic wrote on Aug 15th, 2026 at 4:24pm:
So it's the devil we know versus the devil we also know. Which is to say, the country is buggered either way. Not acciddntally, the same non-choice is on offer across the West - no matter who you elect, your country will be buggered. |
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Title: Re: Will the Anus be fired? Post by Setanta on Aug 16th, 2026 at 1:34am
I have always voted Labor, or Labor by proxy via preference. I voted for what I wanted to happen. Now I have decided to vote for what I don't want to happen.
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