waggawoody wrote on Aug 8^th, 2026 at 11:31pm:

At least he's stopped (for now) with all that Israel is the only democracy in the Mid East nonsense.

Which part do you think is nonsense? That Israel is in the middle east, or that Israel is a democracy?

Of course it is - it is the only non-islamic country in the ME.

MAHMOOD don't surf do democracy.

Recent assessments by major international indices indicate that Israel has experienced significant democratic deterioration, with its status downgraded from a liberal democracy to an electoral democracy or flawed democracy.  According to the 2024 Democracy Report by the V-Dem Institute, Israel lost its classification as a leading liberal democracy in 2023, placing it on par with countries like Poland and South Africa, with warnings that continued trends could lead to an electoral autocracy status similar to Hungary and Russia.

The Economist Intelligence Unit’s Democracy Index for 2023 similarly classified Israel as a flawed democracy, ranking it 30th globally.  Specific components showed notable weaknesses, particularly in civil liberties (scoring 5.59 out of 10, lower than Poland and Hungary) and governmental functioning (7.50 out of 10).  This decline has been attributed to political instability, including five election campaigns in three and a half years, rising populism, and unprecedented public protests starting in early 2023, which some analysts argue contributed to a broader erosion of liberal democratic norms and checks and balances.

freediver wrote on Aug 9^th, 2026 at 7:38am:

waggawoody wrote on Aug 8th, 2026 at 11:31pm: At least he's stopped (for now) with all that Israel is the only democracy in the Mid East nonsense. Which part do you think is nonsense? That Israel is in the middle east, or that Israel is a democracy?

Oh? Where does Israel stand on your democracy index, FD?

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Recent assessments by major international indices indicate that Israel has experienced significant democratic deterioration

The Economist's democracy index shows it going up from 7.3 to 7.8 out of 10 over the last 20 years. It is currently ranked higher than the US.

One flawed democracy is rated slightly higher than another flawed democracy. Woo Hoo !

Are you saying that Israel and America are both democracies?

Can you tell us which one is in the middle east?

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Recent assessments by major international indices indicate that Israel has experienced significant democratic deterioration, with its status downgraded from a liberal democracy to an electoral democracy or flawed democracy.

Yes, there are some Arabs in Knesset.

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Aug 9^th, 2026 at 7:45pm:

One flawed democracy is rated slightly higher than another flawed democracy. Woo Hoo !

The surrounding Musulman countries are not even flawed democracies.

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It is currently ranked higher than the US.

You brought up the yanks. Since Iran defeated the US convincingly, it's possible the US's days in West Asia are nearly over.



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The surrounding Musulman countries are not even flawed democracies.

What's special about democracies. Mugs vote, governments ignore. Doing the same thing over and expecting a different result ...  definition of insanity.

Commies hate democracy and are bent on killing humanity.

tallowood wrote on Aug 9^th, 2026 at 8:40pm:

Commies hate democracy and are bent on killing humanity.

The typically authoritarian right is the greatest threat to democracy everywhere.

Israel’s farcical elections and fictional democracy - Less than half of the Jews live in Israel and less than half of the people who live in Israel have the vote. They tend to be authoritarian which is undemocratic.

They have a mask of democracy but it is very thin.

tallowood wrote on Aug 9^th, 2026 at 8:40pm:

Commies hate democracy and are bent on killing humanity.

I doubt that you have ever seen a commie.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 9^th, 2026 at 11:05pm:

tallowood wrote on Aug 9th, 2026 at 8:40pm: Commies hate democracy and are bent on killing humanity. I doubt that you have ever seen a commie.

I lived under commie dictatorship, I fought it and I won. USSR no more.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 9^th, 2026 at 11:02pm:

Less than half of the Jews live in Israel and less than half of the people who live in Israel have the vote.

Why do you have a problem with Jews living outside of Israel? Or think it is relevant to whether Israel is in the middle east?

Israel has universal suffrage. All citizens who are over 18 can vote. Including Arab Muslims, who make up a significant part of the population.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 9^th, 2026 at 11:02pm:

tallowood wrote on Aug 9th, 2026 at 8:40pm: Commies hate democracy and are bent on killing humanity. The typically authoritarian right is the greatest threat to democracy everywhere. Israel’s farcical elections and fictional democracy - Less than half of the Jews live in Israel and less than half of the people who live in Israel have the vote. They tend to be authoritarian which is undemocratic. They have a mask of democracy but it is very thin.

So, Marxist duckwittery, why dont you tell us which Israeli citizens don't have the right to vote?  Why do you hide behind a dishonest sleight of hand of 'people who live in Israel." Not everyone who lives in Australia has the vote, duckwit. Does that make Australia a fictional democracy? No.
All you Pally flag-shaggers are deeply dishonest and will lie without batting an eyelid. Dreadful.

How anyone could  think a racist apartheid ethno-supremacist state is a democracy boggles the mind.

Do you think the US is a democracy?

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Aug 9^th, 2026 at 4:09pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 9th, 2026 at 7:38am: waggawoody wrote on Aug 8th, 2026 at 11:31pm: At least he's stopped (for now) with all that Israel is the only democracy in the Mid East nonsense. Which part do you think is nonsense? That Israel is in the middle east, or that Israel is a democracy? Oh? Where does Israel stand on your democracy index, FD?

FD?

freediver wrote on Aug 10^th, 2026 at 7:30pm:

Do you think the US is a democracy?

You should ask Panther that one, FD. He's emphatic.

You?

freediver wrote on Aug 10^th, 2026 at 7:30pm:

Do you think the US is a democracy?

The USA elects a King every 4 years who has total power
under executive orders to do anything -
even start wars.

waggawoody wrote on Aug 10^th, 2026 at 7:22pm:

How anyone could  think a racist apartheid ethno-supremacist state is a democracy boggles the mind.

Israel is not a wacist, apartheid ethno-supremacist state.

You are, however, a Pally flag-shagger. Dare to deny it.


(How's them apples, Mahmod)

Frank wrote on Aug 10^th, 2026 at 7:55pm:

waggawoody wrote on Aug 10th, 2026 at 7:22pm: How anyone could  think a racist apartheid ethno-supremacist state is a democracy boggles the mind. Israel is not a wacist, apartheid ethno-supremacist state. You are, however, a Pally flag-shagger. Dare to deny it. (How's them apples, Mahmod)

Oh yes, it is.

Dare to deny that, you naughty old Danish-fancier.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Aug 10^th, 2026 at 8:02pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 10th, 2026 at 7:55pm: waggawoody wrote on Aug 10th, 2026 at 7:22pm: How anyone could  think a racist apartheid ethno-supremacist state is a democracy boggles the mind. Israel is not a wacist, apartheid ethno-supremacist state. You are, however, a Pally flag-shagger. Dare to deny it. (How's them apples, Mahmod) Oh yes, it is. Dare to deny that, you naughty old Danish-fancier.

Thank you, 6 year old paki gob on a stick.

Frank wrote on Aug 10^th, 2026 at 7:55pm:

waggawoody wrote on Aug 10th, 2026 at 7:22pm: How anyone could  think a racist apartheid ethno-supremacist state is a democracy boggles the mind. Israel is not a wacist, apartheid ethno-supremacist state. You are, however, a Pally flag-shagger. Dare to deny it. (How's them apples, Mahmod)

Yes it is, as attested to by numerous human rights organisations and the United Nations.

Sorry to burst your bubble of delusion.

waggawoody wrote on Aug 10^th, 2026 at 8:32pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 10th, 2026 at 7:55pm: waggawoody wrote on Aug 10th, 2026 at 7:22pm: How anyone could  think a racist apartheid ethno-supremacist state is a democracy boggles the mind. Israel is not a wacist, apartheid ethno-supremacist state. You are, however, a Pally flag-shagger. Dare to deny it. (How's them apples, Mahmod) Yes it is, as attested to by numerous human rights organisations and the United Nations. Sorry to burst your bubble of delusion.

You are delusional Wagga. The UN has not declared Israel a wacist, apartheid ethno-supremacist state. Nor has it said Israel is not a democracy. It has not even said Israel is not in the middle east.

Do you think the US is a democracy?

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Aug 9^th, 2026 at 3:44pm:

Recent assessments by major international indices indicate that Israel has experienced significant democratic deterioration, with its status downgraded from a liberal democracy to an electoral democracy or flawed democracy.  According to the 2024 Democracy Report by the V-Dem Institute, Israel lost its classification as a leading liberal democracy in 2023, placing it on par with countries like Poland and South Africa, with warnings that continued trends could lead to an electoral autocracy status similar to Hungary and Russia. The Economist Intelligence Unit’s Democracy Index for 2023 similarly classified Israel as a flawed democracy, ranking it 30th globally.  Specific components showed notable weaknesses, particularly in civil liberties (scoring 5.59 out of 10, lower than Poland and Hungary) and governmental functioning (7.50 out of 10).  This decline has been attributed to political instability, including five election campaigns in three and a half years, rising populism, and unprecedented public protests starting in early 2023, which some analysts argue contributed to a broader erosion of liberal democratic norms and checks and balances.

It's still 1000% more a democracy than the entire number of the surrounding Arab Islamic states. Jew hating DH

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Aug 9^th, 2026 at 4:09pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 9th, 2026 at 7:38am: waggawoody wrote on Aug 8th, 2026 at 11:31pm: At least he's stopped (for now) with all that Israel is the only democracy in the Mid East nonsense. Which part do you think is nonsense? That Israel is in the middle east, or that Israel is a democracy? Oh? Where does Israel stand on your democracy index, FD?

7.8 & ranked 30th - & why wouldn't it be when it's always on the defensive against attacks by its neighbors?

Ranks higher than Singapore, Sth Korea, the US & Italy.

waggawoody wrote on Aug 10^th, 2026 at 7:22pm:

How anyone could  think a racist apartheid ethno-supremacist state is a democracy boggles the mind.

How you think that gob full of bullshyte is factual comes from a boggled mind.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 10^th, 2026 at 7:54pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 10th, 2026 at 7:30pm: Do you think the US is a democracy? The USA elects a King every 4 years who has total power under executive orders to do anything - even start wars.

Get off the fence you fair weather fool before you do your tackle a mischief.

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The USA elects a King every 4 years

Sounds like the definition of democracy.

freediver wrote on Aug 11^th, 2026 at 1:34pm:

Quote: The USA elects a King every 4 years Sounds like the definition of democracy.

Not according to the Athenians, FD. They invented democracy.

Are you up for a question yet?

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Aug 11^th, 2026 at 3:52pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 11th, 2026 at 1:34pm: Quote: The USA elects a King every 4 years Sounds like the definition of democracy. Not according to the Athenians, FD. They invented democracy. Are you up for a question yet?

Yeah - which of Israel's neighbours has a better Demcracy Index? (none)

Supplementary Q - which Muslim country has a better Decomcracy Index? (none)


Grimace and tapdance to that, Reichsminister für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda, Joseph Gobbers.

Gnads wrote on Aug 11^th, 2026 at 1:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 10th, 2026 at 7:54pm: freediver wrote on Aug 10th, 2026 at 7:30pm: Do you think the US is a democracy? The USA elects a King every 4 years who has total power under executive orders to do anything - even start wars. Get off the fence you fair weather fool before you do your tackle a mischief.

OK - in Israel -

Bibi is a star and when you're a star they let you do it,
you can do anything:
grab them ...
start wars,
totally level Gaza to the ground leaving it as a pile of smoking rubble.

You lot quickly forget anything that disproves your world view.

Posted about 2 months ago:

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/07/experts-hail-icj-declaration-illegality-israels-presence-occupied

Note where it includes the West Bank settlements.

waggawoody wrote on Aug 11^th, 2026 at 5:29pm:

You lot quickly forget anything that disproves your world view. Posted about 2 months ago: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/07/experts-hail-icj-declaration-illegality-israels-presence-occupied Note where it includes the West Bank settlements.

Israel rises.
Islam falls.
...this is truth of the Future, since the New Worlds came onto the scene.

When Italy & Greece genocide the unarmed wandering Muslims (after they genocided France, to die for Islam's sins) in their tens of millions.
The World chants "Horray!"  :)
Israel says "Now how do you like it - being persecuted?!"
...I suppose you want Israel to come and save your Muslim arses, because nobody else is (?!). :-?

Wombatwoody wank is an absolute idiot.  ;D

waggawoody wrote on Aug 8^th, 2026 at 11:31pm:

At least he's stopped (for now) with all that Israel is the only democracy in the Mid East nonsense.

Which part do you think is nonsense? That Israel is in the middle east, or that Israel is a democracy?

waggawoody wrote on Aug 11^th, 2026 at 5:29pm:

You lot quickly forget anything that disproves your world view. Posted about 2 months ago: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/07/experts-hail-icj-declaration-illegality-israels-presence-occupied Note where it includes the West Bank settlements.

The International Court of Justice (ICJ; French: Cour internationale de justice, CIJ), or colloquially the World Court, is the principal judicial organ of the United Nations (UN). It settles legal disputes submitted to it by states and provides advisory opinions on legal questions referred to it by other UN organs and specialized agencies.



So not a court, really, just mediator with ZERO legal force.

Like the rest of the UN.


opinions are like assholes

freediver wrote on Aug 11^th, 2026 at 5:53pm:

waggawoody wrote on Aug 8th, 2026 at 11:31pm: At least he's stopped (for now) with all that Israel is the only democracy in the Mid East nonsense. Which part do you think is nonsense? That Israel is in the middle east, or that Israel is a democracy?

Sounds like Wagga's not saying, FD.

You?

Frank wrote on Aug 11^th, 2026 at 6:23pm:

waggawoody wrote on Aug 11th, 2026 at 5:29pm: You lot quickly forget anything that disproves your world view. Posted about 2 months ago: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/07/experts-hail-icj-declaration-illegality-israels-presence-occupied Note where it includes the West Bank settlements. The International Court of Justice (ICJ; French: Cour internationale de justice, CIJ), or colloquially the World Court, is the principal judicial organ of the United Nations (UN). It settles legal disputes submitted to it by states and provides advisory opinions on legal questions referred to it by other UN organs and specialized agencies. So not a court, really, just mediator with ZERO legal force. Like the rest of the UN. opinions are like assholes

Rule of arschloch, innit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DPqNHkm1bM

tallowood wrote on Aug 12^th, 2026 at 9:05am:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DPqNHkm1bM

What do you think, Tallow? You come from the authoritarian perspective.

Is Israel a proper democracy?

Frank wrote on Aug 11^th, 2026 at 6:23pm:

waggawoody wrote on Aug 11th, 2026 at 5:29pm: You lot quickly forget anything that disproves your world view. Posted about 2 months ago: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/07/experts-hail-icj-declaration-illegality-israels-presence-occupied Note where it includes the West Bank settlements. The International Court of Justice (ICJ; French: Cour internationale de justice, CIJ), or colloquially the World Court, is the principal judicial organ of the United Nations (UN). It settles legal disputes submitted to it by states and provides advisory opinions on legal questions referred to it by other UN organs and specialized agencies. So not a court, really, just mediator with ZERO legal force. Like the rest of the UN. opinions are like assholes

What is the verdict of a trial if not the opinion of the judge or the jury?

waggawoody wrote on Aug 12^th, 2026 at 7:55pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 11th, 2026 at 6:23pm: waggawoody wrote on Aug 11th, 2026 at 5:29pm: You lot quickly forget anything that disproves your world view. Posted about 2 months ago: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/07/experts-hail-icj-declaration-illegality-israels-presence-occupied Note where it includes the West Bank settlements. The International Court of Justice (ICJ; French: Cour internationale de justice, CIJ), or colloquially the World Court, is the principal judicial organ of the United Nations (UN). It settles legal disputes submitted to it by states and provides advisory opinions on legal questions referred to it by other UN organs and specialized agencies. So not a court, really, just mediator with ZERO legal force. Like the rest of the UN. opinions are like assholes What is the verdict of a trial if not the opinion of the judge or the jury?

A national judiciary has a national law enforcement arm, ya daft tit.

The UN has no law enforcement arm.

WTF is wrong with you?  (I know, don't say it)