Sov'run Citizenship in action, innit?  We, The People As Sovereign, behave responsibly as citizens and pressure those with the power.  My apologies to those who missed out -  "This ePetition was closed for signatures on 16/06/2026: Suspend Brumby Culling in Kosciuszko National Park "

No need to riot; no need to buy it; just take it up to the top..
No need to whine; just go and sign; don't carry on like a fop.

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Complex issue grap.

I don't support gut shooting a horse and letting it die over 3 days as it's starving foal stands next to it.

But horses do damage fragile ecosystems.

Feral donkeys and camels in the centre of australia would also need attention.

But it should be humane

https://www.facebook.com/1454434793/videos/4593868907511864?idorvanity=2639080506365968

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2026 at 4:19pm:

Complex issue grap. I don't support gut shooting a horse and letting it die over 3 days as it's starving foal stands next to it. But horses do damage fragile ecosystems. Feral donkeys and camels in the centre of australia would also need attention. But it should be humane

I don't think there's an example of wild horses actually destroying a fragile environment... the Planet Of The Apes scarecrows called wind generators and the trails they need to even exist is destroying many thousands of hectares of natural environment.

Got me eye on a property - no money though - near the Range up northern NSW there - plan is for a Sanctuary for brumbies and wildlife, and veterans in trouble and good people in trouble... hour or two from your holding...

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6Mb9Zyhw5wU51tjG/giphy.gif

land recovery - propaganda or viable proposition?

China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5TAZ8Qqe9E

Australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ircmbPxfaK0

Kill em all. Nothing patriotic or Australians about them, especially running wild like pest cane toads, camels and pigs. Kill em all. Put food might get cheaper.

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2026 at 4:19pm:

Complex issue grap. I don't support gut shooting a horse and letting it die over 3 days as it's starving foal stands next to it. But horses do damage fragile ecosystems. Feral donkeys and camels in the centre of australia would also need attention. But it should be humane

There's a market for our camels.

Donkeys & brumbies could be rehomed or go to pet food.

They used to have chiller bins all over the west of NSW & QLD for feral pigs.

Gun law restrictions have seen that reduced as is the roo cull.

Results are more roos ...... and in the last decade or so an explosion of feral pig numbers all over the both states as well.

There is huge market in Europe and Asia for horse products including meat.

Australia and New Zealand maintain highly active export operations catering directly to premium European markets like Belgium and Switzerland.

tallowood wrote on Jun 29^th, 2026 at 9:47am:

land recovery - propaganda or viable proposition? China https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5TAZ8Qqe9E Australia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ircmbPxfaK0

Well things didn't work out for Mr. Henggela & his family at Katchana.

Phukken bureaucrats without a clue. Right down to denying expert scientific opinion & the science.

Even with the support of local Aboriginal peoples.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-29/tribunal-backs-donkey-cull-order-kachana-station-kimberley/105942850

It reminds me of a similar story with a similar liked minded bloke as Chris Henggela -

this blokes name is Peter Andrews

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH-z-chTDvI

The sad part about Peter Andrews story is that his wife left him unlike Mrs. Henggela & they parted ways before he was actually vindicated & his work recognised. He also lost his daughter & friends because of his drive & determination to be proven right.

It's interesting that you mentioned Peter Andrews
I have been implemented some of the findings He made on my farm
And I would have to say he is broadly on the right track
Slowing down the progress of water across the landscape is what it is all about

As Andrews points out the burning ofVegetation particularly by indigenous people2 hunt kangaroo
Resulted in the loss of The  vegetation which was slowing down Water Flow

The introduction of sheep and cattle further damaged the riverbanks
Resulting in rivers which gouge deep channels and move water quickly
Rather don't allowing water to spread out over-engineered flood plains

I have built plenty of small weirs  Swails On These smaller water courses
And it has definitely greened the place up

Also allowing some of the thistles to penetrate deepHas improved the soil

Peter probably deserves a knighthood

aquascoot wrote on Jul 1^st, 2026 at 6:50am:

It's interesting that you mentioned Peter Andrews I have been implemented some of the findings He made on my farm And I would have to say he is broadly on the right track Slowing down the progress of water across the landscape is what it is all about As Andrews points out the burning ofVegetation particularly by indigenous people2 hunt kangaroo Resulted in the loss of The  vegetation which was slowing down Water Flow The introduction of sheep and cattle further damaged the riverbanks Resulting in rivers which gouge deep channels and move water quickly Rather don't allowing water to spread out over-engineered flood plains I have built plenty of small weirs  Swails On These smaller water courses And it has definitely greened the place up Also allowing some of the thistles to penetrate deepHas improved the soil Peter probably deserves a knighthood

Yes - we did that with water on the property - put in swales etc on a drain across the top of our Red Cedar trees, so that water during heavy rain would pool and seep slowing into those beds..also cunningly dug a dam to catch all the overflow from neighbours as well.. we had lots of water for pumping and I regret I didn't move into avocadoes.  Too old and not well enough now ..

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 28^th, 2026 at 6:27pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2026 at 4:19pm: Complex issue grap. I don't support gut shooting a horse and letting it die over 3 days as it's starving foal stands next to it. But horses do damage fragile ecosystems. Feral donkeys and camels in the centre of australia would also need attention. But it should be humane I don't think there's an example of wild horses actually destroying a fragile environment... the Planet Of The Apes scarecrows called wind generators and the trails they need to even exist is destroying many thousands of hectares of natural environment. Got me eye on a property - no money though - near the Range up northern NSW there - plan is for a Sanctuary for brumbies and wildlife, and veterans in trouble and good people in trouble... hour or two from your holding...

Wild horses, camels and donkeys have one important thing in common, they drink water and in drought conditions they travel to get a drink, they will drink small water holes dry and the small native animals that live around there, and who can’t travel long distances, die as a consequence.
Wild horses are a feral introduced pest and should not only be culled but exterminated.
The do gooders never gave a damn about the killing of rabbits by mixo and the prolonged suffering before death or the rare recovery from it.

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jul 15^th, 2026 at 7:53pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 28th, 2026 at 6:27pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2026 at 4:19pm: Complex issue grap. I don't support gut shooting a horse and letting it die over 3 days as it's starving foal stands next to it. But horses do damage fragile ecosystems. Feral donkeys and camels in the centre of australia would also need attention. But it should be humane I don't think there's an example of wild horses actually destroying a fragile environment... the Planet Of The Apes scarecrows called wind generators and the trails they need to even exist is destroying many thousands of hectares of natural environment. Got me eye on a property - no money though - near the Range up northern NSW there - plan is for a Sanctuary for brumbies and wildlife, and veterans in trouble and good people in trouble... hour or two from your holding... Wild horses, camels and donkeys have one important thing in common, they drink water and in drought conditions they travel to get a drink, they will drink small water holes dry and the small native animals that live around there, and who can’t travel long distances, die as a consequence. Wild horses are a feral introduced pest and should not only be culled but exterminated. The do gooders never gave a damn about the killing of rabbits by mixo and the prolonged suffering before death or the rare recovery from it.

That's nature - do you support the concept that Aborigines, being of a certain group, should have preference in drought to water?

Why then did so many perish in drought?  Or die of water-borne diseases?

Life's hard like that on the fringes....  WE ... from a civilised and some ways controlled environment.... terra-forming as we do so well  .... have the opportunity to decide who lives and who dies....

Leaving aside the moral implications... what does that imply for any natural environment? 

That only those we deem to be Der Volk should survive at any price, and all others must be exterminated?

Think on  this, Grasshopper... who set Man up as the arbiter of the Final Solution of all beings on Earth?

Who decreed that the dinosaurs should die out?  And all the other groups of species that have died out?

How does Man become the Penguin from The Blues Brothers - and becomes the final arbiter of all that is right or wrong .... and thus opening the way to mass murder equating to genocide?

Look into yourself, Grasshopper....... tell me your truths... and never lose sight of what I have mentioned time and again - that the intellectual nazis who can  train their minds to accept and pursue the unthinkable - to always act in the 'greater good' - must be subject to very closest scrutiny and kept under tight control..

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2026 at 4:19pm:

Complex issue grap. I don't support gut shooting a horse and letting it die over 3 days as it's starving foal stands next to it. But horses do damage fragile ecosystems. Feral donkeys and camels in the centre of australia would also need attention. But it should be humane

You may have a point with hard hoofed animals like horses & donkeys ....

but camels are soft padded feet ungulates. They would damage the environment no more than the legs of large numbers of kangaroos, wallabies, paddymelons etc.

Camels are built for desert environments - & that doesn't mean the sand dunes of the Sahara. There is nothing there for them to eat.

Dromedary of Nth Africa, the ME & Asia along with Bactrian 2 humped camels of central Asia live in harsh environments much like inland Australia.

If you're on about hard hoofed animals & the southern highland region where cattle have been grazed for over 200 years  then you have to support their removal as well as horses yeah?

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jul 15^th, 2026 at 7:53pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 28th, 2026 at 6:27pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2026 at 4:19pm: Complex issue grap. I don't support gut shooting a horse and letting it die over 3 days as it's starving foal stands next to it. But horses do damage fragile ecosystems. Feral donkeys and camels in the centre of australia would also need attention. But it should be humane I don't think there's an example of wild horses actually destroying a fragile environment... the Planet Of The Apes scarecrows called wind generators and the trails they need to even exist is destroying many thousands of hectares of natural environment. Got me eye on a property - no money though - near the Range up northern NSW there - plan is for a Sanctuary for brumbies and wildlife, and veterans in trouble and good people in trouble... hour or two from your holding... Wild horses, camels and donkeys have one important thing in common, they drink water and in drought conditions they travel to get a drink, they will drink small water holes dry and the small native animals that live around there, and who can’t travel long distances, die as a consequence. Wild horses are a feral introduced pest and should not only be culled but exterminated. The do gooders never gave a damn about the killing of rabbits by mixo and the prolonged suffering before death or the rare recovery from it.

Irrelevant clap trap.

Camels have one advantage over horses & donkeys - they can go without water for much longer.

That's why camels survive where horses & donkeys don't.

Unlike horses & donkeys Camels are soft footed ungulates.

You of all people should know that. ::)

So how often have the Snowies water holes run dry?

"The Snowy River or its associated montane river system has never entirely dried up, but diversions for the Snowy Mountains Hydro-electric Scheme reduced flows significantly. Below Jindabyne Dam, the Snowy River’s flow was reduced to just 1% to 21% of its natural volume, transforming some sections into a chain of stagnant pools."

It seems humans are more of a danger to the natives than horses or even deer and pigs.  Now add in the horrendous damage from all those Planet of The Apes scarecrows on the hills and all the access roads and such...

"National Scale Estimates: Opposing groups and think-tanks suggest that to reach 100% renewable generation through onshore wind, tens of millions of hectares could theoretically be impacted across Australia, though much of this overlaps with existing agricultural land rather than untouched forests.Site-Specific Impacts: Individual projects require large footprints. For example, a single turbine pad and its associated heavy-duty access roads typically require around 2 hectares of clearing."

All these references are from AI - me lazy - so take it with a grain of salt.. GIGO.  Imagine that if a wind tower is isolated - tht footprint of access road will multiply .... one report said it would clear the size of Victoria... The Beef Wellington State.

Gnads wrote on Jul 16^th, 2026 at 6:32pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jul 15th, 2026 at 7:53pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 28th, 2026 at 6:27pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2026 at 4:19pm: Complex issue grap. I don't support gut shooting a horse and letting it die over 3 days as it's starving foal stands next to it. But horses do damage fragile ecosystems. Feral donkeys and camels in the centre of australia would also need attention. But it should be humane I don't think there's an example of wild horses actually destroying a fragile environment... the Planet Of The Apes scarecrows called wind generators and the trails they need to even exist is destroying many thousands of hectares of natural environment. Got me eye on a property - no money though - near the Range up northern NSW there - plan is for a Sanctuary for brumbies and wildlife, and veterans in trouble and good people in trouble... hour or two from your holding... Wild horses, camels and donkeys have one important thing in common, they drink water and in drought conditions they travel to get a drink, they will drink small water holes dry and the small native animals that live around there, and who can’t travel long distances, die as a consequence. Wild horses are a feral introduced pest and should not only be culled but exterminated. The do gooders never gave a damn about the killing of rabbits by mixo and the prolonged suffering before death or the rare recovery from it. Irrelevant clap trap. Camels have one advantage over horses & donkeys - they can go without water for much longer. That's why camels survive where horses & donkeys don't. Unlike horses & donkeys Camels are soft footed ungulates. You of all people should know that. ::)

Irrelevant clap trap?
What has the hooves got to do with drinking the water holes dry?
And why should one feral animal that does damage be treated differently to another?
While we’re at it, feral deer should also be eradicated and not protected.

When our Civilisation finally collapses, the peasants will need some way to get to town so good for horses, and something to eat... so deer and pigs are not such a bad thing. The damage you speak of is localised and rare and nature repairs itself well..... it's not as if they are trampling the earth into dust or something..

Humans definitely cause far more damage than any wild animal.

Did you see the video made by a Snowies bloke - horse rider - where the track made by horses through the bush had acted as a fire break?  Burnt black on one side - green on the other. And the track was only a couple of feet wide..

Quote:

It lies beyond the Western Pines Towards the sinking sun, And not a survey mark defines The bounds of "Brumby's Run". On odds and ends of mountain land, On tracks of range and rock Where no one else can make a stand, Old Brumby rears his stock. A wild, unhandled lot they are Of every shape and breed. They venture out 'neath moon and star Along the flats to feed; But when the dawn makes pink the sky And steals along the plain, The Brumby horses turn and fly Towards the hills again.

Horses have a place in the environment - they eat the dry, coarse grasses that are highly flammable... and thus protect native wildlife not so mobile from fires....

Purely on my own superficial consideration - I can see no validity to any idea that the wild horses are destroying habitats... they stick to trails well worn, they clearly don't drink all the water, they don't eat the best feed, they don't trample frogs, any impact they have on creek banks is when those are very wet and muddy anyway and it's not like they are changing the water flows or anything - humans have far greater impact on native species and especially water flows than any other beast - what horse imported a foreign weed or illness?

Far lap of the slug, boys - this ideological stance is unrealistic.

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2026 at 4:19pm:

Complex issue grap. I don't support gut shooting a horse and letting it die over 3 days as it's starving foal stands next to it. But horses do damage fragile ecosystems. Feral donkeys and camels in the centre of australia would also need attention. But it should be humane

Aerial culling has numerous rules must be double tapped with a .308

Heart and lung shots are preferred if they get it on target both lungs and heart are taken out with single shot double tapping makes sure.

Spotter in Chopper has to confirm kill.

If it’s so effective where is the evidence?

Am I just supposed to “ trust “ what a politician says because that’s never going to happen.

The simple fact is that there are several other options then shooting from a helicopter but the Minns government has simply chosen the cheapest and cruelest way.

The politicians need to save taxpayers money otherwise they won’t have enough to enjoy the taxpayer funded piss ups with taxpayer paid for limousines!

Save the brumbies- shoot the politicians instead!!

Daves2017 wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 10:12pm:

If it’s so effective where is the evidence? Am I just supposed to “ trust “ what a politician says because that’s never going to happen. The simple fact is that there are several other options then shooting from a helicopter but the Minns government has simply chosen the cheapest and cruelest way. The politicians need to save taxpayers money otherwise they won’t have enough to enjoy the taxpayer funded piss ups with taxpayer paid for limousines! Save the brumbies- shoot the politicians instead!!

I'm waiting for the videos from bush walkers and riders now that Massacre Park has been re-opened to the public... already there have been videos of horses gut shot and shot in the back and left to die... now the focus of the pro-massacre brigade has shifted to saying that looking into this, people only get pro-horse people... well - sitting in the local pub - which I doubt any of these characters can do with impunity in the Snowies Region - which group would YOU drink with?

The anti-massacre horse lovers or the killers?

The figure or eight million has been raised - how much would building some pen fields - not just pens where they exist on grass-less ground and eat only non-natural foods and drink out of prescribed water troughs ...  and then rounding up the animals have cost?

People are doing it off their own bat and transporting brumbies to safe havens.... so how much does a government need to follow a similar program?

Split the states up again and take the power from Capital City... I'd split South East into two - North and South Snowfallia or something... I doubt South Snowfallia would vote to kill the horses.

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Back in the day before when there was more workers than public servants younger men used to drive the brumbies down from the high country and then break them in and sell them at a decent price.

Now we have national parks and wildfires on huge taxpayer funded wages in charge.

Oh well, for every dead brumbies the foxes can eat and breed up.

Daves2017 wrote on Jul 18^th, 2026 at 12:32am:

Back in the day before when there was more workers than public servants younger men used to drive the brumbies down from the high country and then break them in and sell them at a decent price. Now we have national parks and wildfires on huge taxpayer funded wages in charge. Oh well, for every dead brumbies the foxes can eat and breed up.

Foxes - forgot about those... surely this invasive species group is kidding.. they'd kill more wildlife than anything else.

Cull every WILD Brumbie.
Every single one!

What else is there to do? Bring in Wolves to keep em in check? ::)

Slaughter them.
Massacre them.
Genocide them.
Make Australia great again.