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Title: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Armchair_Politician on Jun 17th, 2026 at 9:33am
There is no way whatsoever this deal can be spun by Trump as a win for the US. It is a colossal and humiliating failure for Trump and the US...
1. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States, together with their allies in the current war, declare upon the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding an immediate and permanent end to the war on all fronts, including Lebanon, and undertake that from now on they will not launch any hostile action against each other, and will refrain from the threat or use of force against each other. The final agreement will confirm the provisions of this Article and the remaining Articles. 2. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States undertake to respect each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity, and to refrain from interfering in each other's internal affairs. 3. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States undertake to negotiate and reach a final agreement within a maximum period of 60 days, extendable by mutual consent. 4. Immediately upon the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, the United States Lift the naval blockade and prevent any interference or obstruction against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and restore traffic within a maximum of 30 days to its full capacity; the traffic of ships shall be proportional to the pre-war volume of traffic on the part of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States also undertakes to withdraw its forces from the surrounding areas within 30 days after the final agreement. 5. Upon signing this Memorandum of Understanding, the Islamic Republic of Iran will immediately take steps to ensure that the movement of merchant ships from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa is resumed within 30 days to the pre-war volume, taking into account the need for the removal of technical obstacles and the neutralization of mines by Iran. 6. The United States undertakes, together with its regional partners, to create a comprehensive plan agreed upon by both parties for the rehabilitation and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran, While ensuring financing of at least $300 billion. The implementation mechanism of this plan, as part of the final agreement, will be formulated within 60 days. 7. The United States commits to ending, on a schedule to be agreed upon as part of the final agreement, all types of sanctions currently facing the Islamic Republic of Iran, including resolutions of the United Nations Security Council and the Board of Governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, both primary and secondary. 8. The Islamic Republic of Iran reiterates that it will never produce nuclear weapons. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States have agreed that the fate of enriched material and the fate of all other mutually agreed nuclear-related issues, including Iran’s nuclear needs, will be adequately addressed in a final agreement; the final agreement will confirm the provisions of this Article. 9. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States agree that, pending a final agreement, they will maintain the status quo: Iran will maintain the status quo on its nuclear program, and the United States will not impose new sanctions on Iran or strengthen its forces in the region. 10. The United States undertakes that immediately after the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, and until the date of the lifting of sanctions, the United States Treasury Department will issue waivers for exports of Iranian crude oil, petrochemical products and their derivatives, and all related services, including banking, insurance, transportation, and the like. 11. The United States undertakes that, in light of the progress of negotiations towards a final agreement, frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran will be released and made fully available. These funds, whether held in the master account or transferred, will be used for any final beneficiary payment determined by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran and will be fully available for use. The United States undertakes to issue all necessary permits and licenses on this basis. 12. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States agree that an implementation mechanism will be established to oversee the successful implementation of and future commitment to the Final Agreement. 13. Following the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, and upon receipt of assurances regarding the commencement of implementation of Articles 4, 5, 10, and 11 of this Memorandum of Understanding, and the continued implementation of these steps, the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States will enter into negotiations for a Final Agreement solely with respect to the remaining Articles. 14. The final agreement will be approved through a binding resolution of the UN Security Council. https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2026/06/16/al-arabiya-obtains-14point-draft-usiran-deal |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 17th, 2026 at 9:48am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 9:33am:
The Sadim touch. Nobody has it like Trump. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Frank on Jun 17th, 2026 at 10:40am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 9:33am:
Source? Er.... Al Arabiya. Status? Er.... draft. Date? Er... dunno. Whose draft? Er.... Iran's . Was this actually the deal? Of course not. But why not have a little TDS. Carry on, TDS kids, you know you want to. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Armchair_Politician on Jun 17th, 2026 at 10:41am |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Armchair_Politician on Jun 17th, 2026 at 10:42am Frank wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 10:40am:
If it’s such a good deal, as Trump claims, why not make it public? Because it’s a terrible deal! |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 17th, 2026 at 10:45am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 10:41am:
Yep, he sure does. One of the biggest foreign policy blunders in many generations. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Armchair_Politician on Jun 17th, 2026 at 10:46am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 10:45am:
Also a colossal military failure, expensive in financial and human terms for literally no benefit. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Armchair_Politician on Jun 17th, 2026 at 10:51am
Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, a close ally of Donald Trump, has given reporters his pitch for why the war against Iran should be considered a success.
“Here’s what we achieved. If this thing comes through Friday, we’ve opened up the straits, which will help the economy and the world,” Mr Graham said. “The world will be in a permanent ceasefire, hopefully. And we’ll try to get a nuclear deal with Iran. And hopefully that will work out. “If it doesn’t, then we still have achieved opening up the straits and stopping the fighting.” Someone please tell Lindsey that the Strait was open before Trump started this war!!! |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 17th, 2026 at 10:58am Frank wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 10:40am:
Good point, old boy. Armchair, you take that back. Kindly post the peace deal released by DL. Cheers. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 17th, 2026 at 11:13am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 10:42am:
Excuse me, are you trying to tell us that the United States of America has just announced a peace deal with consequences for the entire global economy, and not even made it public? I must say, I have never heard anything so redeculous in all my life. Despicable stuff. Old boy, I do feel this deserves a response. Kindly give this poster a stern piece of your mind. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 17th, 2026 at 1:35pm
trump attacked them and killed their children
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 17th, 2026 at 1:39pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 1:35pm:
So? He's giving them a few pallets of cash to smooth it over. Forgive and forget, no? |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by SadKangaroo on Jun 17th, 2026 at 1:55pm Frank wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 10:40am:
Ah, so there is no deal... |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 17th, 2026 at 3:33pm SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 1:55pm:
He has the "framework of an agreement" ;D Should be ready in, oh, I don't know, let's say ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJhHjACjJjA |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by tallowood on Jun 17th, 2026 at 4:39pm Quote:
bait, hook and sinker ;) https://news.orvis.com/fly-fishing/classic-story-fly-fishing-iran-part |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Leroy on Jun 17th, 2026 at 4:50pm
What a generous man Trump is, Obama only gave them a couple of pallets of cash and Biden the scrooge gave nothing.
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 17th, 2026 at 4:58pm tallowood wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 4:39pm:
Just so, Tallo. DL's hooked them in a cunning 4 dimensional move: check-mate, leftards. Yes, on the surface, it appears like he has started a war with the mullahs, surrendered just in time for his birthday, and destroyed the credibility of the US of A, but do you know? You wait, when the leftards least expect it - pow! Right in the kisser. I think it's a smart move. You? |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 17th, 2026 at 5:04pm Leroy wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 4:50pm:
Exactomundo, Leroy. DL gave them more pallets of cash, $300 bil, ongoing control over the Strait of Hormuz, the removal of trade sanctions and the withdrawal all US bases from the Middle East. So generous, no? How do you think Abu will take the news? |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Leroy on Jun 17th, 2026 at 5:21pm Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 5:04pm:
Who right donger, greg says there is no deal and armchair says there is a deal. Which one do you think is lying donger?. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 17th, 2026 at 5:24pm |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 17th, 2026 at 5:28pm Leroy wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 5:21pm:
Hard to say, Leroy. How do you think Abu will take the news? |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Leroy on Jun 17th, 2026 at 5:31pm Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 5:28pm:
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Belgarion on Jun 17th, 2026 at 5:45pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 10:45am:
A rare occasion where I find myself agreeing with greggy...AAAARRRGGGGH! The world is ending!! :D This must go down as one of the greatest foreign policy disasters in US history. Trump led the Iranian people to believe he would remove the Islamist dictatorship and restore the Shah. Instead after three months of war he has achieved nothing except disruption of the world economy and handing a propaganda victory to the Iranian regime. ::) I have been away for a couple of months and stayed away from news and social media for that time. It was very refreshing. However on return a week ago I see nothing changes. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 17th, 2026 at 6:02pm Leroy wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 5:31pm:
I most certainly do, Leroy. What do you think Abu will say when finds out you now support DL paying off the mullahs and fleeing the Middle East, leaving Israel, the Arabs and our energy supply at the mercy of the dastardly Shi'ites? |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Leroy on Jun 17th, 2026 at 6:05pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 5:45pm:
Maybe you just starting to think like him. What do you think the response to the Ayatollah ordering the killing of 40,000 young people in Iran should be: A) do nothing as the price of oil will go up. B) organize a special meeting of the UN so they can write a letter to the Ayatollah telling him they are not very happy. C) Another country come in and beat the crap out of the Ayatollah and his henchmen. Or do you have another reason to sit by and do nothing like any good man would do. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 17th, 2026 at 6:14pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 5:45pm:
Oh, I don't know. Leroy's just turned a 180 to cheer on the B52s carrying pallets of US dollars currently on their way to Tehran. But sure, nothing else has changed. Bobby's still posting his muscleman memes, the old boy's playing Vinnie Barbarino and Aquascoot's still saying meh, he thinks it's a smart move. It's as if you never left, no? |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Bobby. on Jun 17th, 2026 at 6:22pm Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 6:14pm:
Our DL keeps in shape: |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 17th, 2026 at 6:24pm Leroy wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 6:05pm:
Why would the price of oil go up, Leroy? Prior to your DL's deal, global oil companies were prohibited from doing business with the mullahs, dear. Would you like to tell Belgarion what you used to say when the Muselman organised a cull? |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Armchair_Politician on Jun 17th, 2026 at 6:57pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 5:45pm:
Trump failed to achieve a single military or political objective. What happened to regime change? Grade: F. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Bobby. on Jun 17th, 2026 at 7:21pm Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 6:24pm:
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Leroy on Jun 17th, 2026 at 7:24pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 6:57pm:
Maybe when the dems get control they can impeach Trump for bringing peace to the middle east. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by JC Denton on Jun 17th, 2026 at 7:25pm
if negotiations continue in this direction it is looking that way. unequivocal iranian strategic victory, with the biggest loser being israel. trump is obviously sick of his 'partners' and may no longer be interested in ceding to their recommendations anymore. i think he is handling this de-escalatory phase (thus far) pretty well to be fair.
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 17th, 2026 at 7:58pm JC Denton wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 7:25pm:
I know, right? He just praised the mullahs over at the G7, saying they've been great to work with, he'd like to keep working with them more. The way he's going, I'd say he'll be more than willing to let them get a nuke. He said exactly the same thing about Kim Jong Un, do you recall? MBS? Sure. He should have nukes too. Erdogan? Why not? The more the merrier, no? |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by JC Denton on Jun 17th, 2026 at 8:37pm Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 7:58pm:
sounds good to me. would prevent nonsense like this from potentially flaring again and threatening the integrity of global shipping and energy markets. i hope 'the mullahs' and the donald develop a positive working relationship going forward, which could produce a more even handed and multi-lateral american foreign policy direction for the middle east, though i'm not holding my breath. you got a problem with this now, do you? |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Armchair_Politician on Jun 17th, 2026 at 8:43pm Leroy wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 7:24pm:
Bringing peace to the Middle East? He was the cause of this war, halfwit! |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 17th, 2026 at 9:19pm JC Denton wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 8:37pm:
Sure. The Trump Org can get into the nuke business. I guarantee you, the morons would support it. You? |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 17th, 2026 at 9:20pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 8:43pm:
Leroy's currently working on getting us to forget this part, Armchair. Cunning, no? |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Armchair_Politician on Jun 18th, 2026 at 12:55pm Leroy wrote on Jun 17th, 2026 at 7:24pm:
If I come and set your house on fire and then use your hose to put the fire out, will you hail me as a hero for saving your house? Yeah, I didn't think so. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 18th, 2026 at 12:57pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 12:55pm:
Leroy's home wouldn't burn - he lives in a glass house. |
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Title: Iran's hardliners unhappy Post by tallowood on Jun 18th, 2026 at 3:14pm Quote:
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202606158071 |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 18th, 2026 at 4:40pm
trump is a criminal raping stealing amoral loser
america voted him in . |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Carl D on Jun 18th, 2026 at 4:56pm
Hmm.
Trump signs deal to end Iran war with Strait to open & $300billion plan… but Tehran’s ‘finger is still on the trigger’ Quote:
Really? So - where is the money coming from? Anyone? Oh, wait - Australia's second hand nuclear subs are going to cost us about 300 billion so perhaps Australia can just do a 'bank transfer' straight to Iran instead of the US? I'm sure Donald will like that. ::) And, what are these "certain benchmarks" and who determines what they are? |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 18th, 2026 at 6:08pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 4:40pm:
Some say those are his good points. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by tallowood on Jun 18th, 2026 at 6:26pm |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Frank on Jun 18th, 2026 at 9:42pm
The TDS morons would have left Iran alone, letting it develop nukes and nuke Israel.
They are so unhapoy now that this is not going to happen. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 18th, 2026 at 11:00pm Frank wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 9:42pm:
What? There's no nukes in the deal, old boy. Before this one's out, your DL will be giving them nukes, as every schoolboy knoooows. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by The Male Lesbian Gaze on Jun 18th, 2026 at 11:03pm Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 11:00pm:
I think of Frannie as a trashy, swarthy bloke. Am I wrong? |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 18th, 2026 at 11:08pm Muriel wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 11:03pm:
He does have a touch of a tan, Proud Gay, just so. The anal bleaching was never much of a success, no? |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by The Male Lesbian Gaze on Jun 18th, 2026 at 11:24pm Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 11:08pm:
He is a bottom? That explains so much. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 19th, 2026 at 10:34am Muriel wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 11:24pm:
Sort of. He prefers to keep the tint on his face, that's all. DL likes to keep his bottom nice and white. It helps in the shower room, you see. LAWFARE !!! |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Marla on Jun 19th, 2026 at 10:44am
Don't forget the $300 billion in American taxpayer money
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Ai_Took_Our_Jobs on Jun 19th, 2026 at 10:52am
Depleted ammunition stock, that American taxpayers also have to pull out of their pockets.
Someone claimed this is American's greatest loss since Vietnam. I suspect, biggest loss since America's Afghanistan defeat. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 19th, 2026 at 11:45am Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 19th, 2026 at 10:52am:
It's the biggest foreign policy blunder we've seen for several decades. That's something pretty much everyone can agree on. Trump has proven himself once again to be the world's worst deal maker. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 19th, 2026 at 12:25pm Marla wrote on Jun 19th, 2026 at 10:44am:
Yes, Marla, there is that. DL says he'll get it off his friends. Steve, Jared and his buddies on the peace board. I think the idea is the Saudis and Emiratis will chip in a few bil each to keep the mullahs happy. Jared, Eric and Don Jnr can then fight it out for the contracts. MBS is a little miffed, as you'd expect. DL's excursion has wiped a good 20% off the Saudi economy. The Qataris are still dealing with the loss of a major gas plant - gone for good. Poof! Tourism in Dubai's a lost cause too, they'll just have to deal with it. Now they'll have to pay for repairs to the mullahs' mansions as well. A real "win-win", no? |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Ai_Took_Our_Jobs on Jun 19th, 2026 at 12:41pm
Everyone Hates Donald.
Unless he has a mid to severe neurodegenerative diseases, due to his rapid ageing. Then all these massive ef ups are Vance's fault. Vance should have already taken the Presidency off Donald. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Dnarever on Jun 19th, 2026 at 12:54pm
Looks like it only took about 14 years and $300 Billion to get back 70% of the Obama deal that Trump vandalised?
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Leroy on Jun 19th, 2026 at 1:03pm
Why are the lefties upset that Trump gave everything the
Iranians wanted, it's exactly what they would have done. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 19th, 2026 at 3:09pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19th, 2026 at 11:45am:
Depends what you mean by a blunder, Greggery. DL always said he'd be the GREAT DISRUPTER. The Real Americans don't care about a few depleted munitions. It was worth it to see the fireworks on Fox, no? That girls' school went up like a Catherine Wheel. Yee-hah. Much more fun than watching the talking heads on MS Now drone on about the Epstein files. Now he's fixed Iran, the big fella can keep Cuba up his sleeve for a rainy day. If I was Raoul, I'd be sending the Cuban spies in to hush up any embarassing new Epstein leaks. He won't be wanting any new stories hitting the press about Jeff and the big fella raping 13 year olds. Catholic girls' schools in Havana will be exploding like Roman candles. DEEP STATE !!! |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Big Donger on Jun 19th, 2026 at 3:11pm Leroy wrote on Jun 19th, 2026 at 1:03pm:
Strange. What did you say DL would do back in Feb again? Cheers. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by Bobby. on Jun 19th, 2026 at 3:22pm Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jun 19th, 2026 at 3:09pm:
Karnal, do you know he likes you - he really likes you. He's got something in mind for you. |
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Title: Re: Trump gives Iran everything they want Post by tallowood on Jun 19th, 2026 at 4:31pm
It looks like a trap set for mullahs.
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