https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/woman-attacked-by-shark-at-coogee-beach/75lijsbsh

“ The incident follows a recent spate of fatal attacks nationwide and has prompted calls for stronger shark mitigation strategies across NSW”


Interesting that the law stopping drones being flown at the beach has suddenly changed and is now allowed?

This attack happened between the flags, I suggest we need a public inquiry into the mitigation strategies that state Labor have in place.

I find it absurd that Labor can kill Brumbies by the thousands but not one huge shark?

Horses are not native to the national park.
Sharks are native to coastal Australia.

Humans overfish the oceans ... sharks are extra hungry. Join the dots.

Go swim in pools or rivers, if you don't like the risk of swimming in the oceans.

Well done Charlie, Nth Bondi clubbie.

“ NSW Premier Chris Minns says a cull of Sydney’s bull sharks is actively being considered, with department staff currently counting the apex predator’s population.
The tragic mauling of a swimmer by a great white shark at Coogee Beach on Saturday capped a spike in attacks across Sydney’s coastline since December. Minns said all options were on the table, including vastly scaling up beach patrols by automated drones.
As Minns ruled out targeting great whites, citing the species’ protected status and migratory behaviour, he said reducing the population of bull sharks was on the table.”

“ smh

Seems a uniformed knee jerk reaction?

As well as a obvious deflection from the fact his government has completely failed on shark migration issues.

I have a huge amount of sympathy for the victims of these attacks - a truly horrible way to go.

We've just had a couple here in the West - awful stuff.

Having said that, killing the sharks is ridiculous.

If you don't want to be eaten by a shark, stay out of their feeding ground/home.

Simples.

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Humans overfish the oceans ... sharks are extra hungry. Join the dots.

That's not how it works.

Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 15^th, 2026 at 10:39am:

Go swim in pools or rivers, if you don't like the risk of swimming in the oceans.

Exactly.

Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 15^th, 2026 at 10:39am:

Horses are not native to the national park. Sharks are native to coastal Australia. Humans overfish the oceans ... sharks are extra hungry. Join the dots. Go swim in pools or rivers, if you don't like the risk of swimming in the oceans.

Horses are native to the planet Earth and bullsharks go well up in Australian tidal rivers, stop giving imbecile advises.

tallowood wrote on Jun 15^th, 2026 at 12:09pm:

Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 10:39am: Horses are not native to the national park. Sharks are native to coastal Australia. Humans overfish the oceans ... sharks are extra hungry. Join the dots. Go swim in pools or rivers, if you don't like the risk of swimming in the oceans. Horses are native to the planet Earth and bullsharks go well up in Australian tidal rivers, stop giving imbecile advises.

So don't go in the water if you know they swim there.

What's so difficult about that?

When they start attacking people on land, we can talk about culling.

Scientific consensus and marine data show that lethal shark culling is an ineffective and ecologically damaging way to manage beach safety. While calls for culling often return after high-profile attacks, marine biologists, conservationists, and data analysts strongly argue against it.


Why Lethal Culling Fails

No Impact on Attack Rates: Decades of data, including over 60 years of Australian shark monitoring, show no statistical link between culling local shark populations and a reduction in human-shark encounters. Sharks have massive migratory ranges and are not territorial, meaning new sharks quickly move into cleared areas.

Ecological Damage: Sharks are apex predators. Removing them disrupts the marine food web, causing a ripple effect that collapses lower fisheries and destabilizes coral reef health.

Collateral Damage: Traditional culling methods like drum lines and shark nets are highly un-targeted. They routinely catch and kill non-target marine life, including dolphins, sea turtles, whales, and harmless, critically endangered shark species.False Sense of Security: Fixed nets do not create an impassable barrier. Sharks routinely swim around or over them, meaning nets offer a psychological comfort rather than an actual physical shield.


Modern, Science-Based Alternatives

Rather than relying on what marine experts call "19th-century responses to 21st-century problems", coastal authorities are shifting toward smart, non-lethal technologies:

Drone Surveillance: Real-time aerial scanning allows life-savers to spot sharks near swimmers and clear the beaches immediately.

SMART Drumlines: Unlike traditional lethal lines, SMART drumlines alert authorities immediately via satellite when a shark is hooked. Teams can then tag, track, and release the shark safely further out to sea.Acoustic Tracking

Tagging: Tagged sharks trip underwater listening stations near popular beaches, sending automated, instant alerts to public safety apps and lifeguards.

Public Education: Authorities focus on warning signs, such as avoiding the water after heavy rainfall—which flushes organic waste and baitfish into the ocean, drawing predators like bull sharks into murky, turbid areas.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15^th, 2026 at 12:13pm:

tallowood wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 12:09pm: Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 10:39am: Horses are not native to the national park. Sharks are native to coastal Australia. Humans overfish the oceans ... sharks are extra hungry. Join the dots. Go swim in pools or rivers, if you don't like the risk of swimming in the oceans. Horses are native to the planet Earth and bullsharks go well up in Australian tidal rivers, stop giving imbecile advises. So don't go in the water if you know they swim there. What's so difficult about that? When they start attacking people on land, we can talk about culling.

Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you that you are idiot.

tallowood wrote on Jun 15^th, 2026 at 12:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 12:13pm: tallowood wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 12:09pm: Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 10:39am: Horses are not native to the national park. Sharks are native to coastal Australia. Humans overfish the oceans ... sharks are extra hungry. Join the dots. Go swim in pools or rivers, if you don't like the risk of swimming in the oceans. Horses are native to the planet Earth and bullsharks go well up in Australian tidal rivers, stop giving imbecile advises. So don't go in the water if you know they swim there. What's so difficult about that? When they start attacking people on land, we can talk about culling. Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you that you are idiot.

Don't cry when a shark bites your fat ass.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15^th, 2026 at 12:29pm:

tallowood wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 12:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 12:13pm: tallowood wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 12:09pm: Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 10:39am: Horses are not native to the national park. Sharks are native to coastal Australia. Humans overfish the oceans ... sharks are extra hungry. Join the dots. Go swim in pools or rivers, if you don't like the risk of swimming in the oceans. Horses are native to the planet Earth and bullsharks go well up in Australian tidal rivers, stop giving imbecile advises. So don't go in the water if you know they swim there. What's so difficult about that? When they start attacking people on land, we can talk about culling. Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you that you are idiot. Don't cry when a shark bites your fat ass.

You are idiot  ;D

Great discussion - brumbies attack people on land so don't go in the water in case they begin to attack there? 

I've opposed culling brumbies and the deer loose for years.  They hardly harm anything.. stop whining about natural water course - those change all the time anyway .. stop carrying on as if folk lore is the total reality.

Brambies I spotted at Barrington Tops, they were very shy.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/519/9osPHJ.png

Eat the sharks - yes - wild horses around this region...

Sorted.

I would like you to design a comprehensive shark protection system called "Shark Shield". The core concept is a beach that is continuously monitored by drone(s) which transmit a live video stream back to a computer in the lifeguard tower. This system would use AI to detect sharks in real time and automatically sound an alarm to alert lifeguards and beachgoers. Please design the entire system from the ground up. Key factors to consider include: Drone flight times and operational endurance Battery management, recharging, and swapping systems Coverage schedule: operations beginning 1 hour after sunrise and ending 1 hour before sunset Seasonal variations in daylight hours (accounting for different times of the year) Weather resilience and safe operating conditions Sufficient redundancy (backup drones, backup power, failover systems, etc.) Provide: Recommended components (drones, cameras, AI hardware/software, communication systems, charging infrastructure, alarm systems, etc.) A detailed cost breakdown (including initial setup and estimated ongoing annual costs) Overall system architecture and operational workflow

https://chatgpt.com/s/t_6a2d267b4a548191a4966aba393ded24

We should eat the sharks and the horses.


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No Impact on Attack Rates: Decades of data, including over 60 years of Australian shark monitoring, show no statistical link between culling local shark populations and a reduction in human-shark encounters.

That's only because they only considered deliberate culling at beaches, which is a tiny fraction of the sharks killed. Fishing pressure obviously has a huge impact. People don't swim on the eastern beaches of fraser island because of sharks. You can't spear there either. But if it had the same fishing pressure as the gold coast, there would be hardly any sharks and it would be safe to swim.

Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 15^th, 2026 at 10:39am:

Go swim in pools or rivers, if you don't like the risk of swimming in the oceans.

Ever since something swam pass me and bumped into me at the beach in my teenage years, I have never been back into the ocean. And the act of swimming in the river would have me up at mental health on suicide watch -- because I should know better about the dangers of crocodiles.

Still, there should be a shark cull along the beaches. Let them get killed and then sink into the water so that other fish can feast off their carcasses. That might bump up fish numbers for a while.

Gordon wrote on Jun 15^th, 2026 at 6:10pm:

Sorted. I would like you to design a comprehensive shark protection system called "Shark Shield". The core concept is a beach that is continuously monitored by drone(s) which transmit a live video stream back to a computer in the lifeguard tower. This system would use AI to detect sharks in real time and automatically sound an alarm to alert lifeguards and beachgoers. Please design the entire system from the ground up. Key factors to consider include: Drone flight times and operational endurance Battery management, recharging, and swapping systems Coverage schedule: operations beginning 1 hour after sunrise and ending 1 hour before sunset Seasonal variations in daylight hours (accounting for different times of the year) Weather resilience and safe operating conditions Sufficient redundancy (backup drones, backup power, failover systems, etc.) Provide: Recommended components (drones, cameras, AI hardware/software, communication systems, charging infrastructure, alarm systems, etc.) A detailed cost breakdown (including initial setup and estimated ongoing annual costs) Overall system architecture and operational workflow https://chatgpt.com/s/t_6a2d267b4a548191a4966aba393ded24

Most shark attacks are divers and surfers that would not be covered by this system, its very rare that a person is attacked by a shark in patrolled waters.

Leroy wrote on Jun 15^th, 2026 at 6:39pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 6:10pm: Sorted. I would like you to design a comprehensive shark protection system called "Shark Shield". The core concept is a beach that is continuously monitored by drone(s) which transmit a live video stream back to a computer in the lifeguard tower. This system would use AI to detect sharks in real time and automatically sound an alarm to alert lifeguards and beachgoers. Please design the entire system from the ground up. Key factors to consider include: Drone flight times and operational endurance Battery management, recharging, and swapping systems Coverage schedule: operations beginning 1 hour after sunrise and ending 1 hour before sunset Seasonal variations in daylight hours (accounting for different times of the year) Weather resilience and safe operating conditions Sufficient redundancy (backup drones, backup power, failover systems, etc.) Provide: Recommended components (drones, cameras, AI hardware/software, communication systems, charging infrastructure, alarm systems, etc.) A detailed cost breakdown (including initial setup and estimated ongoing annual costs) Overall system architecture and operational workflow https://chatgpt.com/s/t_6a2d267b4a548191a4966aba393ded24 Most shark attacks are divers and surfers that would not be covered by this system, its very rare that a person is attacked by a shark in patrolled waters.

Imagine if this system went into the well funded beach like Bondi, Coogee, Manly, nobody would want to swim anywhere else.