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General Discussion >> Federal Politics >> Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1781428378 Message started by Daves2017 on Jun 14th, 2026 at 7:12pm |
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Title: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by Daves2017 on Jun 14th, 2026 at 7:12pm
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/hanson-overtakes-albanese-as-preferred-pm-coalition-crashes-to-record-low-20260614-p606lg.html
“ Hanson overtakes Albanese as preferred PM, Coalition crashes to record low” |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2026 at 8:17pm paywalled article - please copy and paste it. |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 14th, 2026 at 9:51pm Hanson overtakes Albanese as preferred PM, Coalition crashes to record low James Massola June 14, 2026 — 6:00pm Pauline Hanson has rocketed past Anthony Albanese as Australians’ first choice to be prime minister, while One Nation has edged out Labor and now leads both major parties on primary vote. And the Coalition has crashed to a record low primary vote of just 20 per cent in the latest Resolve Political Monitor, conducted for this masthead, while Labor recorded a primary vote of 28 per cent. For the first time, One Nation leads after a whopping 5-percentage-point rise in its primary vote to 29 per cent. While both major parties saw their primary vote dip, the Coalition’s drop of 3 percentage points from last month is more significant as it is outside the poll’s margin of error. Labor’s score fell by just 1 point. The Labor primary vote is the lowest the party has recorded since it’s 25 per cent result in February 2025, when the then Peter Dutton-led Coalition was riding high with a primary vote of 39 per cent before suffering a crushing reversal and defeat at the May election. The latest findings come a month after Labor’s fifth federal budget was marked down by voters for breaking election promises not to touch tax breaks for negative gearing or capital gains tax, and to leave trusts alone. Support for the changes in these three key budget areas has slumped in the past month and opposition to the changes has grown after a furious backlash from business groups and those able to use the tax breaks, suggesting Labor is struggling to explain the changes. However, more than a third of voters are yet to make up their minds on each of the measures. The Resolve poll was conducted for this masthead from June 8 to 13 and surveyed 1801 voters, with a margin of error of plus or minus 2.3 per cent. For the first time, voters were given a choice of three candidates as preferred prime minister – Albanese, Hanson or Angus Taylor – and Hanson took first spot, with 33 per cent of voters nominating her as preferred prime minister while 29 per cent nominated Albanese and 22 per cent were undecided. The results were dire for Liberal leader Taylor: 16 per cent of voters overall nominated him as their preferred PM. Even among Coalition voters, 20 per cent preferred Hanson and 47 per cent preferred Taylor. Underscoring the wave of popularity the One Nation leader is surfing, Hanson edged out Albanese as preferred prime minister among people living in marginal seats, in the suburbs and the regions, while Albanese was more popular with independent, uncommitted and inner-city voters. In the orthodox head-to-head preferred prime minister contest between Albanese and Taylor, the prime minister recorded a score of 31 per cent, up 1 point, while the opposition leader recorded a score of 32 per cent, down 1 point, and 36 per cent were undecided. The poll’s findings underscore the extent to which Hanson and One Nation are winning supporters beyond the party’s historically older, whiter and male support base, with 29 per cent of people born in Australia backing One Nation and 28 per cent of Australians born overseas backing it. Similarly, 31 per cent of Australians with an Anglo-Saxon background support the party and 24 per cent with a non-Anglo background support it, the survey found. Resolve pollster Jim Reed said the results made clear that support for Hanson was growing and she now had a broad appeal to voters. “We’ve already put to bed the idea that One Nation represents just a fragmentation of the right and that it attracts only older men; this tells us that they also appeal to non-white and immigrants too,” he said. “It’s the drawbridge effect, where Australians born overseas are often the more vehemently opposed to increased immigration.” On the two major party leaders’ performance, 35 per cent of voters said Albanese’s performance was good or very good, while 55 per cent said it was bad or very bad – a slight improvement on last month’s figures. Ten per cent were undecided. Taylor’s total “good” score was 38 per cent, up 1 point on last month, while his total “bad” score was 32 per cent, up 3 points on last month, with 30 per cent undecided. Respondents were not asked to score Hanson’s performance in this way. ... |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 14th, 2026 at 9:53pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2026 at 8:17pm:
Copy the link ... https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/hanson-overtakes-albanese-as-preferred-pm-coalition-crashes-to-record-low-20260614-p606lg.html Go here: https://www.removepaywall.com/ paste the link ... Try option 2 ;) |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2026 at 10:03pm Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 14th, 2026 at 9:53pm:
Thanks - it works. :) |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2026 at 10:06pm Pauline will kick out the communists - good. |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 14th, 2026 at 10:11pm
I'm going to vote One Nation for the first time ever this year in Victoria. 8-)
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by Ai_Took_Our_Jobs on Jun 15th, 2026 at 12:22am Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2026 at 10:06pm:
The one way ticket to China, is it being crowd sourced ? |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by Ai_Took_Our_Jobs on Jun 15th, 2026 at 12:31am
Albanese's retirement party, time to book a venue.
The most logical path ahead for the coalition is a. elect undecided as their leader, or b. get swallowed up inside 1.nation as a faction, and do what the coalition does best ... implode. Bring the party down from the inside. Just like Barnaby's doing. |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by Frank on Jun 15th, 2026 at 9:53am
“One Nation are turning Albo’s lies into a full-blown campaign to fire the liar. We’re now working on TV commercials for State of Origin and giant banners that will fly beneath helicopters across our major cities because of your donations,” she posted to social media.
“This is real money, real data, and a real campaign to get rid of Labor. Albo, you underestimated the anger of the Australian people and as a result, we’re coming after you.” The campaign has now racked up more than $3.8m in donations from just over 62,000 Australians. This equates to an average donation of $61. Also Home Affairs Minister Tony Burqa has conceded the government must focus on rebalancing Australia’s housing supply and migration levels, amid surging support for One Nation’s hardline stance on the issue. |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by tallowood on Jun 15th, 2026 at 12:47pm
Hanson turned the constitutional spotlight directly onto Senator Fatima Payman, publicly questioning whether Payman is even eligible to sit in Parliament. The specific concern is Section 44(i) of the Australian Constitution — the provision that prohibits any person holding foreign citizenship from serving as a member of the Australian Parliament. And Hanson's claim is that Payman holds Afghan citizenship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrEKNm7I-ZE |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by aquascoot on Jun 15th, 2026 at 1:12pm
I think there is a chance for one nation to win an election.
But I find Pauline and barnaby to be a bit whiney and negative. Same as I find Nigel farrage to be too intense. Canovan is the perfect fit. Always looks emotionally calm and a killer sense of humour. Matt cannovan is a young fit version of donny. I think he could be PM one day. Pauline is just a little too sour. She has spent too much time in a room with Wong, pliboshez. SHY, Thorpe. Angry sour people. It rubs off on women. It's hard to keep your sense of humour. It's amazing donny was able to do it |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by thegreatdivide on Jun 15th, 2026 at 1:42pm Daves2017 wrote on Jun 14th, 2026 at 7:12pm:
ON is relying on the fact the electorate doesn't understand how the system - as ordained by Neoclassical monetarist orthodoxy - is the reason why politicians can't implement an economy which works for all. Hopefully, dislodging that orthodoxy won't require economic collapse or social revolution. Election of ON will merely confirm that the system is dysfunctional...where to from there? "Interesting times" ahead.... |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by thegreatdivide on Jun 15th, 2026 at 2:02pm aquascoot wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 1:12pm:
Well, Trump has alienated friends and foe alike around the world, and his poll numbers aren't looking good with the mid-terms looming. Similarly Matt will leave half the electorate behind - like all politicians operating under Neoclassical economic orthodoxy which forces currency-issuing governments to tax and borrow from the private sector, thereby pitting taxpayers against taxpayers who all have different financial circumstances, which any given tax regime cannot possibly benefit equally. The "fire the liar" campaign is about the cleverest thing ON will ever do; when/if they ever control the treasury, ther ineptitude will be revealed, just as as the ineptitude of the Lab- Lib 'uniparty' (which includes Cananvan) has finally been exposed afrer years of falling Oz living standards amid soaring inequality. Quote:
He's got Melania - a nice massage for his ego....but stories about his sanity, and cracks in MAGA, are starting to emerge... |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by lee on Jun 15th, 2026 at 2:05pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 1:42pm:
So says the untrained economist. ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by thegreatdivide on Jun 15th, 2026 at 2:17pm lee wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 2:05pm:
You prove my case re ignorance of the electorate who like you think TINA: 'there is no alternative' (to classical economics). Don't shoot the messenger: I'm merely reporting the findings of a growing band of heterodox economists who have identified the errors in Neoclassical orthodoxy. Feel free to vote ON (or any other political party); contented conservatives like you won't suffer the consequences when ON find they can't eradicate poverty or solve cost of llving crises while trying to 'balance the budget'. |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by lee on Jun 15th, 2026 at 2:41pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 2:17pm:
And yet your "solution" is not used anywhere in the real world, but you insist it is true. ::) |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2026 at 3:29pm aquascoot wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 1:12pm:
I agree. He's an anti-science, slightly crazy, racist homophobe. Perfect fit for ON. |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by thegreatdivide on Jun 15th, 2026 at 4:28pm lee wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 2:41pm:
That's because in the 'science' of economics, we are still at the 'geocentric stage. Geocentric and heliocentric are two historical models used to explain the arrangement of the solar system. Most economists still think the currency-issuing government must balance its budget - just and you and I (users of the currency) must do. But a c-i govt, by definition, is not financially constrained, it is resource constrained. Adam Smith's "invisible hand" dogma - obsolete in our globalised "comparative advantage" world under WTO rules (...which MAGA-enforcing Trump is attempting to overturn) still commands free trade economics, even while democracy at home is failing to 'lift all boats'. Which is why even Carney, like all national leaders, is now losing his popularity in Canada (while being praised for his addresses at international forums)...joining Starmer, Merz, Macron ...and now Albo. et al. It's obviously a global phenomenon; economic orthodoxy yesterday churned out the world's 1st triliionaire, while poverty and homelessness are increasing amidst a global c-o-l crisis, even in Musk's own nation, where polls suggest Trump will lose control of Congress in the midterms. |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by Frank on Jun 15th, 2026 at 5:49pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 3:29pm:
And your evidence is - what? Apart from your being a slanderous liar. |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by lee on Jun 15th, 2026 at 7:41pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 4:28pm:
There is no science in economics. IF statements are not science. Science is about observations matching theory. If the observations don't match, find a new theory. ::) |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2026 at 8:48pm Frank wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 5:49pm:
Well, he doesn't believe in climate change and, he's an anti-vaxxer/COVID sceptic. Plus, he opposes same sex marriage. |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by Frank on Jun 15th, 2026 at 9:13pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 8:48pm:
And how is ANY of that "anti-science, slightly crazy, racist homophobia", lying, slanderous creep? Science is not about 'believing'. Religion is. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Not endorsing homo marriage is not a 'phobia', you slanderous, lying, idiot. 'Covid sceptic" - *uck off, despicable. |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by thegreatdivide on Jun 16th, 2026 at 12:28pm lee wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 7:41pm:
Gosh - a correct statement from you, at last. Hence my commas around the word science - 'science' - which evidently went completely over your head. Quote:
There is no "IF" statement in my sentence: "That's because in the 'science' of economics, we are still at the 'geocentric stage' ". - which is a statement of fact. Quote:
Exactly: heterodox economists have exploded the nonsense about economics being a science, and have shown the errors in Neoclassical 'science'. Re the 'science' of economics: (google) Yes, economics is universally classified as a social science. It systematically studies human behavior, decision-making, and how societies allocate scarce resources using both qualitative and quantitative data.The scientific classification of economics is a subject of ongoing debate, balancing on a few key factors:Why it is a science: Economics relies heavily on the scientific method. Economists build mathematical models, test hypotheses, and analyze historical, demographic, and financial datasets to forecast trends.Why it faces criticism: Unlike natural sciences (like physics or chemistry), economics cannot easily isolate variables or run perfectly controlled laboratory experiments. Because it deals with unpredictable human behavior and complex global systems, economists often struggle to reach a total consensus Indeed: heterodox economists have exploded mainstream Neoclassical myths like SDGE and 'rational consumers': (google) DSGE (Dynamic Stochastic General Equilibrium) is a macroeconomic modeling method used by central banks and policymakers to simulate and forecast economic activity. It models aggregate economic behavior by using microeconomic principles, incorporating rational decision-making by consumers and firms, and introducing random market shocks to analyze There's the error right there: modelling the macroeconomy on microeconomc principles. Hence the heterodox understanding based on observations of the economy, post Smith's obsolete "invisible hand" and globalization of production. .... So, back to the endless poltical dispute re taxation, determined by govt. elected by 50%+1 of self interested citizens: (Daily Maii) Kemi Badenoch makes offer to wannabe PM Burnham to support welfare cuts to boost defence spending Surprise, surprise...according to comfortable Conservatives, the nation's 'self-defence' is more important than eradicating poverty....but electorates are becomimg disillusioned, as c-o-l pressures negatively affect more and more of the electorate. |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 16th, 2026 at 12:36pm Frank wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 9:13pm:
Is English your first language? :-/ He doesn't believe in climate change and, he's an anti-vaxxer/COVID sceptic who opposes same sex marriage. |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by tallowood on Jun 16th, 2026 at 12:37pm
Anthony Albanese’s attack on One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson backfired spectacularly, helping drive a surge in donations and support.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=278qR-cDTLk |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by thegreatdivide on Jun 16th, 2026 at 12:46pm Frank wrote on Jun 15th, 2026 at 9:13pm:
At least you presented your arguments (while ignoring the climate change debate) - until the last statement, when you merely claimed supporting vaccination is "despicable" despite the scientific evidence in support of vaccination, including vaccination against Covid. |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by thegreatdivide on Jun 16th, 2026 at 1:10pm tallowood wrote on Jun 16th, 2026 at 12:37pm:
One of the few instances when I think Credlin has presented a cogent case. But I think the workers who are abandoning Labor will be mightily disappointed by ON if they achieve government, for the reasons I have already outlined in this thread. Meanwhile shadow treasurer Tim Wilson shows he's an evil, greedy ideologue, during a heated debate with Amanda Wishworth on ABC News Radio this morning, in effect defending a greater protection, via the taxation regime, for 'aspirational risk takers' compared with ordinary wage earners. |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by lee on Jun 16th, 2026 at 1:14pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 16th, 2026 at 12:28pm:
And I didn't say there were. The IF statements occur in economics. "IF" this, "THEN" that. thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 16th, 2026 at 12:28pm:
It was never a science, but a soft social science. And it continues with MMT, no science. Thanks for that. ;) thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 16th, 2026 at 12:28pm:
Modelling a non-science position on another non-science position will always result in failure. ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Pauline Hanson now preferred PM! Albo in tears? Post by thegreatdivide on Jun 17th, 2026 at 3:36pm lee wrote on Jun 16th, 2026 at 1:14pm:
ah..then like i said, we are agreeing economics isn't a science, despite the widespread assertion by economists who use 'scientific' modelling techniques (like DSGE) to bamboozle the populace - like you - into believing the c-i government's budget (representing the macro economy) must be balanced just as our household budgets (micro-economy) must be balanced. Quote:
Your error: MMT observes the nature of money, how it is created, and draws logical conclusions, eg a c-i government is not finance constrained (like you and me), the issue for govt (managing the macro ecnomy) is management of resources, not debt. Logic - which completely escapes you, since you are burdened by the mainstream illusion that money must be taxed or borowed from the private sector, when in fact money can be creeatd ex nihilo by legal currency issuers. Quote:
Yes, but the topic is money, taxes and debt, not science: open your mind to reality as addressed above, and consider non-market dogma re resource utilization to avoid inflation and maintain full employment - or an UHI (Universal High Income) if AI eliminates the need to work, as Musk himself has addressed recently. |
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