1974 - voted against equal credit act

1978 - voted against pregnancy act

1980 - voted against allowing women to report sexual harassment at work

2012 - voted against equal pay for women in equal jobs

1996 and 2012 - voted against violence against women act

1972 - fought against selling birth control to single women till the Supreme court ruled on it

Quote:

.........  In her 1993 confirmation hearing to join the Supreme Court, Ruth Bader Ginsburg explained to the Senate Judiciary Committee: “The decision whether or not to bear a child is central to a woman’s life, to her well-being and dignity. It is a decision she must make for herself. When Government controls that decision for her, she is being treated as less than a fully adult human responsible for her own choices.” In short, she is being treated differently—and less than—a man. Twenty-five years later, then-Senator Kamala Harris made the point more plain during Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation hearing, asking, “Can you think of any laws that give the government power to make decisions about the male body?” Judge Kavanaugh replied, ”I’m not aware—I’m not—thinking of any right now, Senator." Soon, now-Justice Kavanaugh will be among those who decide the fate of the constitutionality of abortion—even as the public awaits his final answer to whether similar laws controlling men’s bodies would be legal or appropriate.    ......... ...........  Rape was initially deemed a property crime against the victim’s father. And as property themselves, married women couldn’t own property under the common law principle of coverture; states gradually granted property ownership to married women through 1943. To keep women in their place—and thus, out of power—American laws long forbade women from full societal participation: In 1948, the Supreme Court affirmed women couldn’t be big-city bartenders unless their father or husband owned the establishment; only in 1973 could women serve on a jury in all 50 states; and until 1974, women without their husband’s permission could be refused credit cards.       ...........

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/government-has-long-history-controlling-women-one-never-ended

So the universal suffrage was passed by Congress with support of Republicans, while many Democrats opposed it.  That doesn't quite marry with your prognostication.

I know, Sprint, but the big fella had Women for Trump. Do you recall?

They were fabulous, most loyal. They had spinoffs too - Pussies for Trump, Grannies for Trump, Women for America First.

You wouldn't want to mess with them, that's for sure. Most of them packed. Many got banned from Facebook for making too many death threats.

As you do, I guess.

Still, that was then. He's on the nose with the broads now.

It's a women's prerogative to change her mind, no?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 17^th, 2026 at 4:36pm:

1980 - voted against allowing women to report sexual harassment at work 1996 and 2012 - voted against violence against women act

Yes, and we all know why that is.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2026 at 7:02pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 17th, 2026 at 4:36pm: 1980 - voted against allowing women to report sexual harassment at work 1996 and 2012 - voted against violence against women act Yes, and we all know why that is.

If there's one thing Republicans have shown us over the years, it's that they love sexually abusing and physically assaulting women.

And currently, it's almost a prerequisite for any "man" who wants to work in the Trump administration.

Short answer: that post is misleading and oversimplified. It mixes some real votes and historical tensions with missing context, inaccuracies, and broad generalisations.

Here’s a grounded breakdown of each claim:

1. 1974 – Equal Credit Opportunity Act
The Equal Credit Opportunity Act banned discrimination in lending (including against women).
Reality: Some Republicans did vote against it, but others supported it, and it passed with bipartisan backing.
Not a unified “Republicans opposed women” situation.
2. 1978 – Pregnancy Discrimination Act
The Pregnancy Discrimination Act made it illegal to discriminate against pregnant employees.
Reality: Again, bipartisan support, including Republicans. It passed overwhelmingly.
Saying “Republicans voted against it” ignores that many voted for it.
3. 1980 – Sexual harassment reporting
This one is problematic as stated.
There wasn’t a single famous 1980 vote “against allowing women to report harassment.”
Workplace sexual harassment protections largely developed through court rulings (e.g. under Civil Rights Act of 1964) and later legal interpretations.
This claim is likely misrepresented or inaccurate.
4. 2012 – Equal pay
Likely referring to the Paycheck Fairness Act.
Reality: Most Republicans opposed it, arguing it would increase litigation and wasn’t necessary beyond existing law.
Democrats supported it as strengthening equal pay enforcement.
This is a real partisan divide, but it’s about policy disagreement, not simply “for or against equal pay.”
5. Violence Against Women Act (1996 & 2012)
The Violence Against Women Act originally passed in 1994 with bipartisan support.
Later renewals (including 2012) became politically contentious, especially over provisions involving:
protections for undocumented immigrants
LGBTQ+ victims
tribal jurisdiction
Some Republicans opposed specific versions, not necessarily the entire concept of protecting women.
6. 1972 – Birth control for single women
Refers to Eisenstadt v. Baird, which legalized contraception access for unmarried people.
Reality: Opposition at the time came from a mix of religious and social conservatives, across parties.
Party lines in the early 1970s were less ideologically sorted than today.
Bigger picture

The post is pushing a clear narrative: “Republicans have a consistent history of opposing women’s rights.”
That’s too simplistic to be accurate.

A more honest framing would be:

There have been moments where Republican lawmakers opposed certain women-related legislation, especially in more recent decades.
But:
Many of those laws passed with Republican support
Earlier decades had cross-party coalitions
Some opposition was about scope, legal approach, or other provisions, not always the core issue
Bottom line
Not fabricated, but selectively framed
Leaves out bipartisan support
Includes at least one dubious claim (1980 harassment)
Uses cherry-picked votes to suggest a continuous, unified agenda, which isn’t historically accurate

Gordon wrote on Apr 17^th, 2026 at 7:47pm:

Short answer: that post is misleading and oversimplified. It mixes some real votes and historical tensions with missing context, inaccuracies, and broad generalisations. Here’s a grounded breakdown of each claim: 1. 1974 – Equal Credit Opportunity Act The Equal Credit Opportunity Act banned discrimination in lending (including against women). Reality: Some Republicans did vote against it, but others supported it, and it passed with bipartisan backing. Not a unified “Republicans opposed women” situation. 2. 1978 – Pregnancy Discrimination Act The Pregnancy Discrimination Act made it illegal to discriminate against pregnant employees. Reality: Again, bipartisan support, including Republicans. It passed overwhelmingly. Saying “Republicans voted against it” ignores that many voted for it. 3. 1980 – Sexual harassment reporting This one is problematic as stated. There wasn’t a single famous 1980 vote “against allowing women to report harassment.” Workplace sexual harassment protections largely developed through court rulings (e.g. under Civil Rights Act of 1964) and later legal interpretations. This claim is likely misrepresented or inaccurate. 4. 2012 – Equal pay Likely referring to the Paycheck Fairness Act. Reality: Most Republicans opposed it, arguing it would increase litigation and wasn’t necessary beyond existing law. Democrats supported it as strengthening equal pay enforcement. This is a real partisan divide, but it’s about policy disagreement, not simply “for or against equal pay.” 5. Violence Against Women Act (1996 & 2012) The Violence Against Women Act originally passed in 1994 with bipartisan support. Later renewals (including 2012) became politically contentious, especially over provisions involving: protections for undocumented immigrants LGBTQ+ victims tribal jurisdiction Some Republicans opposed specific versions, not necessarily the entire concept of protecting women. 6. 1972 – Birth control for single women Refers to Eisenstadt v. Baird, which legalized contraception access for unmarried people. Reality: Opposition at the time came from a mix of religious and social conservatives, across parties. Party lines in the early 1970s were less ideologically sorted than today. Bigger picture The post is pushing a clear narrative: “Republicans have a consistent history of opposing women’s rights.” That’s too simplistic to be accurate. A more honest framing would be: There have been moments where Republican lawmakers opposed certain women-related legislation, especially in more recent decades. But: Many of those laws passed with Republican support Earlier decades had cross-party coalitions Some opposition was about scope, legal approach, or other provisions, not always the core issue Bottom line Not fabricated, but selectively framed Leaves out bipartisan support Includes at least one dubious claim (1980 harassment) Uses cherry-picked votes to suggest a continuous, unified agenda, which isn’t historically accurate

Honesty is not Sprinty's game.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 17^th, 2026 at 4:36pm:

1974 - voted against equal credit act 1978 - voted against pregnancy act 1980 - voted against allowing women to report sexual harassment at work 2012 - voted against equal pay for women in equal jobs 1996 and 2012 - voted against violence against women act 1972 - fought against selling birth control to single women till the Supreme court ruled on it

1995/1996 - Trump raped E. Jean Carroll

Frank wrote on Apr 17^th, 2026 at 7:56pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 17th, 2026 at 7:47pm: Short answer: that post is misleading and oversimplified. It mixes some real votes and historical tensions with missing context, inaccuracies, and broad generalisations. Here’s a grounded breakdown of each claim: 1. 1974 – Equal Credit Opportunity Act The Equal Credit Opportunity Act banned discrimination in lending (including against women). Reality: Some Republicans did vote against it, but others supported it, and it passed with bipartisan backing. Not a unified “Republicans opposed women” situation. 2. 1978 – Pregnancy Discrimination Act The Pregnancy Discrimination Act made it illegal to discriminate against pregnant employees. Reality: Again, bipartisan support, including Republicans. It passed overwhelmingly. Saying “Republicans voted against it” ignores that many voted for it. 3. 1980 – Sexual harassment reporting This one is problematic as stated. There wasn’t a single famous 1980 vote “against allowing women to report harassment.” Workplace sexual harassment protections largely developed through court rulings (e.g. under Civil Rights Act of 1964) and later legal interpretations. This claim is likely misrepresented or inaccurate. 4. 2012 – Equal pay Likely referring to the Paycheck Fairness Act. Reality: Most Republicans opposed it, arguing it would increase litigation and wasn’t necessary beyond existing law. Democrats supported it as strengthening equal pay enforcement. This is a real partisan divide, but it’s about policy disagreement, not simply “for or against equal pay.” 5. Violence Against Women Act (1996 & 2012) The Violence Against Women Act originally passed in 1994 with bipartisan support. Later renewals (including 2012) became politically contentious, especially over provisions involving: protections for undocumented immigrants LGBTQ+ victims tribal jurisdiction Some Republicans opposed specific versions, not necessarily the entire concept of protecting women. 6. 1972 – Birth control for single women Refers to Eisenstadt v. Baird, which legalized contraception access for unmarried people. Reality: Opposition at the time came from a mix of religious and social conservatives, across parties. Party lines in the early 1970s were less ideologically sorted than today. Bigger picture The post is pushing a clear narrative: “Republicans have a consistent history of opposing women’s rights.” That’s too simplistic to be accurate. A more honest framing would be: There have been moments where Republican lawmakers opposed certain women-related legislation, especially in more recent decades. But: Many of those laws passed with Republican support Earlier decades had cross-party coalitions Some opposition was about scope, legal approach, or other provisions, not always the core issue Bottom line Not fabricated, but selectively framed Leaves out bipartisan support Includes at least one dubious claim (1980 harassment) Uses cherry-picked votes to suggest a continuous, unified agenda, which isn’t historically accurate Honesty is not Sprinty's game.

Modern classic, innit.

lee wrote on Apr 17^th, 2026 at 6:57pm:

So the universal suffrage was passed by Congress with support of Republicans, while many Democrats opposed it.  That doesn't quite marry with your prognostication.

The GOP was once a progressive party ...

Big Donger wrote on Apr 17^th, 2026 at 9:13pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2026 at 7:56pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 17th, 2026 at 7:47pm: Short answer: that post is misleading and oversimplified. It mixes some real votes and historical tensions with missing context, inaccuracies, and broad generalisations. Here’s a grounded breakdown of each claim: 1. 1974 – Equal Credit Opportunity Act The Equal Credit Opportunity Act banned discrimination in lending (including against women). Reality: Some Republicans did vote against it, but others supported it, and it passed with bipartisan backing. Not a unified “Republicans opposed women” situation. 2. 1978 – Pregnancy Discrimination Act The Pregnancy Discrimination Act made it illegal to discriminate against pregnant employees. Reality: Again, bipartisan support, including Republicans. It passed overwhelmingly. Saying “Republicans voted against it” ignores that many voted for it. 3. 1980 – Sexual harassment reporting This one is problematic as stated. There wasn’t a single famous 1980 vote “against allowing women to report harassment.” Workplace sexual harassment protections largely developed through court rulings (e.g. under Civil Rights Act of 1964) and later legal interpretations. This claim is likely misrepresented or inaccurate. 4. 2012 – Equal pay Likely referring to the Paycheck Fairness Act. Reality: Most Republicans opposed it, arguing it would increase litigation and wasn’t necessary beyond existing law. Democrats supported it as strengthening equal pay enforcement. This is a real partisan divide, but it’s about policy disagreement, not simply “for or against equal pay.” 5. Violence Against Women Act (1996 & 2012) The Violence Against Women Act originally passed in 1994 with bipartisan support. Later renewals (including 2012) became politically contentious, especially over provisions involving: protections for undocumented immigrants LGBTQ+ victims tribal jurisdiction Some Republicans opposed specific versions, not necessarily the entire concept of protecting women. 6. 1972 – Birth control for single women Refers to Eisenstadt v. Baird, which legalized contraception access for unmarried people. Reality: Opposition at the time came from a mix of religious and social conservatives, across parties. Party lines in the early 1970s were less ideologically sorted than today. Bigger picture The post is pushing a clear narrative: “Republicans have a consistent history of opposing women’s rights.” That’s too simplistic to be accurate. A more honest framing would be: There have been moments where Republican lawmakers opposed certain women-related legislation, especially in more recent decades. But: Many of those laws passed with Republican support Earlier decades had cross-party coalitions Some opposition was about scope, legal approach, or other provisions, not always the core issue Bottom line Not fabricated, but selectively framed Leaves out bipartisan support Includes at least one dubious claim (1980 harassment) Uses cherry-picked votes to suggest a continuous, unified agenda, which isn’t historically accurate Honesty is not Sprinty's game. Modern classic, innit.

Exactly. You and gweggy have infected him.

He never had an original thought.

Nor you or gweggy, come to think of it.

Frank wrote on Apr 17^th, 2026 at 9:48pm:

Big Donger wrote on Apr 17th, 2026 at 9:13pm: Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2026 at 7:56pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 17th, 2026 at 7:47pm: Short answer: that post is misleading and oversimplified. It mixes some real votes and historical tensions with missing context, inaccuracies, and broad generalisations. Here’s a grounded breakdown of each claim: 1. 1974 – Equal Credit Opportunity Act The Equal Credit Opportunity Act banned discrimination in lending (including against women). Reality: Some Republicans did vote against it, but others supported it, and it passed with bipartisan backing. Not a unified “Republicans opposed women” situation. 2. 1978 – Pregnancy Discrimination Act The Pregnancy Discrimination Act made it illegal to discriminate against pregnant employees. Reality: Again, bipartisan support, including Republicans. It passed overwhelmingly. Saying “Republicans voted against it” ignores that many voted for it. 3. 1980 – Sexual harassment reporting This one is problematic as stated. There wasn’t a single famous 1980 vote “against allowing women to report harassment.” Workplace sexual harassment protections largely developed through court rulings (e.g. under Civil Rights Act of 1964) and later legal interpretations. This claim is likely misrepresented or inaccurate. 4. 2012 – Equal pay Likely referring to the Paycheck Fairness Act. Reality: Most Republicans opposed it, arguing it would increase litigation and wasn’t necessary beyond existing law. Democrats supported it as strengthening equal pay enforcement. This is a real partisan divide, but it’s about policy disagreement, not simply “for or against equal pay.” 5. Violence Against Women Act (1996 & 2012) The Violence Against Women Act originally passed in 1994 with bipartisan support. Later renewals (including 2012) became politically contentious, especially over provisions involving: protections for undocumented immigrants LGBTQ+ victims tribal jurisdiction Some Republicans opposed specific versions, not necessarily the entire concept of protecting women. 6. 1972 – Birth control for single women Refers to Eisenstadt v. Baird, which legalized contraception access for unmarried people. Reality: Opposition at the time came from a mix of religious and social conservatives, across parties. Party lines in the early 1970s were less ideologically sorted than today. Bigger picture The post is pushing a clear narrative: “Republicans have a consistent history of opposing women’s rights.” That’s too simplistic to be accurate. A more honest framing would be: There have been moments where Republican lawmakers opposed certain women-related legislation, especially in more recent decades. But: Many of those laws passed with Republican support Earlier decades had cross-party coalitions Some opposition was about scope, legal approach, or other provisions, not always the core issue Bottom line Not fabricated, but selectively framed Leaves out bipartisan support Includes at least one dubious claim (1980 harassment) Uses cherry-picked votes to suggest a continuous, unified agenda, which isn’t historically accurate Honesty is not Sprinty's game. Modern classic, innit. Exactly. You and gweggy have infected him. He never had an original thought. Nor you or gweggy, come to think of it.

What do you think, Sprint?

The old boy thinks you're a bit of a pot plant, leaves wilting away after we infected you with our hideous fungus.

Thoughts?

Karnal,
Sprint is the moderator for the Spirituality MRB here:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=spirituality


- he's a lover not a fighter -

he never tells fibs.

The Male Lesbian Gaze wrote on Apr 17^th, 2026 at 9:22pm:

lee wrote on Apr 17th, 2026 at 6:57pm: So the universal suffrage was passed by Congress with support of Republicans, while many Democrats opposed it.  That doesn't quite marry with your prognostication. The GOP was once a progressive party ...

that must have been a long time ago.

the GOP were happy with slaves to make the rich richer and provide sex on demand for the land owning wealthy

wait, that is what they are doing today

Bobby. wrote on Apr 17^th, 2026 at 11:30pm:

Karnal, Sprint is the moderator for the Spirituality MRB here: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=spirituality - he's a lover not a fighter - he never tells fibs.

Indeed.

Everything in the OP is correct.