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Title: The Unscience of the King
Post by lee on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 1:43pm

"In short:

King Charles has written an open letter to Northern Territory residents in response to a series of natural disasters this wet season that have caused widespread damage and left hundreds displaced.

The king says the flooding is an example of extreme weather events "becoming both more frequent and more ferocious in their impact" due to the "harsh reality of climate change".
What's next?

Royal commentator Juliet Rieden says the letter is a sign Charles is "sharpening his language a little bit" on the issue of climate change."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-09/king-charles-open-letter-nt-flooding-climate-change-warning/106546988

The letter -

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by Bobby. on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 3:42pm

I'm not sure if science can back Charles up? :-/

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:00pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 3:42pm:

I'm not sure if science can back Charles up? :-/

So, it's aliens? :-/

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by Bobby. on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 3:42pm:

I'm not sure if science can back Charles up? :-/

So, it's aliens? :-/

Stop being a silly Billy. ::)

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 3:42pm:

I'm not sure if science can back Charles up? :-/

So, it's aliens? :-/

Stop being a silly Billy. ::)

Why wouldn't science back up what our King said?

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by lee on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:07pm:

Why wouldn't science back up what our King said?

So which is it 2026 is the worst year for floods?

2026 is the worst year for cyclones? 2026 is the worst year for fires?

He can remember visiting after Cyclone Tracy and its devastation and thinks that this year was somehow worse? How many died in the Cyclone Narelle? Answer - 0

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 5:08pm

lee wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:07pm:

Why wouldn't science back up what our King said?

The death toll is completely & utterly irrelevant.

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 5:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 3:42pm:

I'm not sure if science can back Charles up? :-/

So, it's aliens? :-/

Stop being a silly Billy. ::)

Why wouldn't science back up what our King said?

Bobby?

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by Bobby. on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 5:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 5:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 3:42pm:

I'm not sure if science can back Charles up? :-/

So, it's aliens? :-/

Stop being a silly Billy. ::)

Why wouldn't science back up what our King said?

Bobby?

That's up to our King to prove not me.

I never voted for him.

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by lee on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 5:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 5:08pm:

The death toll is completely & utterly irrelevant.

So what is relevant?

The floods biggest since 1998? Nope.

Fires - Bigger than the 45m Ha in 1968-69 Nope.

Cyclones - Narelle was a category2 when it got to the Top End and then weakened significantly. So nope.

So just what metric was he relying on for the proclamation? What science?

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 5:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 3:42pm:

I'm not sure if science can back Charles up? :-/

So, it's aliens? :-/

Stop being a silly Billy. ::)

Why wouldn't science back up what our King said?

Bobby?

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by lee on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 5:41pm

BTW - Chuckles didn't visit the NT after Tracy - he was in Australia 2 months before.

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by Bobby. on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 5:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 5:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 3:42pm:

I'm not sure if science can back Charles up? :-/

So, it's aliens? :-/

Stop being a silly Billy. ::)

Why wouldn't science back up what our King said?

Bobby?

Greggy?

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 6:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 5:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 5:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 3:42pm:

I'm not sure if science can back Charles up? :-/

So, it's aliens? :-/

Stop being a silly Billy. ::)

Why wouldn't science back up what our King said?

Bobby?

Greggy?

Why wouldn't science back up what our King said?

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by lee on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 6:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 6:04pm:

Why wouldn't science back up what our King said?

Because the King is clueless. He doesn't even have O-levels in Science. ::)

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 6:29pm

lee wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 6:04pm:

Why wouldn't science back up what our King said?

Because the King is clueless. He doesn't even have O-levels in Science. ::)

Be specific.

What did the King of Australia say that was wrong?

And back up your claim/s with peer reviewed scientific evidence.

Cheers.

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by lee on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 7:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 6:29pm:

What did the King of Australia say that was wrong?

Where exactly has he identified climate change in the NT? It is at the start of the second paragraph.

Where are these extreme weather events occurring - outside climate attribution models?

What are these increasing catastrophic effects of climate change?

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 6:29pm:

And back up your claim/s with peer reviewed scientific evidence.

Observations are peer-reviewed scientific evidence.

"The Daly River community, also known as Nauiyu, recorded a flood height of 15.62 metres, overtaking the 1957 peak of 15.19 metres and ranking as the second-worst flood in the town’s history."

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/daly-river-flood-hits-second-worst-level/gm-GM2A40E89F

Katherine floods worst since 1957

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-08/nt-flood-peaks-in-katherine-daly-river-reaches-major-flooding/106428398

"By 21 March, the cyclone resumed strengthening and attained a secondary peak as a Category 3 cyclone on the Australian scale, or a high-end Category 1 on the Saffir-Simpson scale. Later that evening, the storm made landfall in East Arnhem with winds of with the same winds and a pressure of around 973 hPa (mbar). Following its second landfall, Narelle weakened to a tropical low as it trekked across the northern periphery of Northern Territory during 22 March. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_Narelle_(2026)

Cyclones always weaken rapidly after landfall.

Major bushfires NT - 45m Ha. 1969-70

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_major_bushfires_in_Australia

There is no current info on bushfires, but 8m Ha in October.

Now all you have to do is debunk that.

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 7:19pm

lee wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 7:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 6:29pm:

What did the King of Australia say that was wrong?

And back up your claim/s with peer reviewed scientific evidence.

White flag accepted.

I look forward to your next emoji.

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by lee on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 7:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 7:19pm:

White flag accepted.

Only because you can't refute anything I wrote. But perhaps you don't agree that observations are peer-reviewed publications. you should let BoM know. ;)

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 7:19pm:

I look forward to your next emoji.

here it is dufus. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by lee on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 8:39pm

A list of tropical cyclones in the NT.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australia_tropical_cyclones

No increasing trend, just variableness.

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by lee on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 9:06pm

Higher rates were in the 1970's. only updated to 2023. BoM must be slacking off. ;)

edit - resized pic.

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by Bobby. on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 10:25pm

Yes Lee - I can't see any trend. :-[

Title: Re: The Unscience of the King
Post by lee on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 1:44pm

Poor gweggy doesn't understand science is done by observation, not hypothesis. ;)