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Title: query on us presidents Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 4:16pm
were biden, obama and clinton corrupt ?
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Biggest donger on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 4:22pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 4:16pm:
Everyone is corrupt, you, me everybody. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Ai_Took_Our_Jobs on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 4:39pm
ai says :
Allegations of corruption involving the Biden, Obama, and Clinton families have been widely discussed in political discourse, but the search results reflect partisan claims rather than verified conclusions. Regarding the Bidens, some sources allege corruption through Hunter Biden’s business dealings, including his role at the Ukrainian energy firm Burisma and the use of shell companies, with claims that Joe Biden may have benefited. The House Oversight Committee’s interim report titled "A President Compromised: The Biden Family Investigation" suggests potential conflicts of interest and foreign influence, though no formal charges against Joe Biden have resulted. Critics argue that the Obama administration did not investigate these matters despite internal reservations. Concerning the Clintons, accusations center on Hillary Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State, with claims that the Clinton Foundation operated as a "pay-to-play" enterprise, exchanging political access for donations. The American Thinker article alleges that the Clintons amassed wealth through such influence without personal financial risk. These claims remain controversial and are not substantiated by judicial findings. As for the Obamas, criticism focuses on policy decisions like the 2015 net neutrality rule, which some argue disproportionately benefited large tech companies such as Google, and their post-presidency $65 million Netflix deal. The article from American Thinker suggests this reflects a pattern of "slurping from the public trough," though no legal wrongdoing has been established. Barack Obama has also publicly criticised conspiracy theories targeting Biden and Clinton, calling them baseless. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Big Donger on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:15pm Leroy wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 4:22pm:
Not at all, Biggest Donger. We humble public servants have a code of conduct. All conflicts of interest must be declared to one's supervisor. Any gifts under $50 must be reported to one's supervisor too. Any gifts over $50 must be returned immediately, but that's just us. So we'll ask you again. Were the Autopen, the Kenyan and the sex trafficker corrupt? Why or why not? |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Frank on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:36pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 4:16pm:
:D :D :D :D Depends on what the meaning of 'is' is, insh'allah. Everybody ulululate!!! |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by lee on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:42pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 4:16pm:
"The United States House Oversight Committee investigation into the Biden family is an ongoing[citation needed] investigation since January 2023 by the United States House of Representatives into U.S. President Joe Biden and his family.[1][2] The investigation was initiated on January 11,[3] and includes examination of the foreign business activities of Biden's son, Hunter, and brother, James, as well as Twitter's involvement in the Hunter Biden laptop controversy." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Oversight_Committee_investigation_into_the_Biden_family That was when Biden was still in office. "Top 10 Ways Obama Violated the Constitution during His Presidency " https://www.cato.org/commentary/top-10-ways-obama-violated-constitution-during-presidency# "Clinton Presidency: The Most Corrupt in American History " https://ashbrook.org/viewpoint/onprin-v4n6-mayer/ I guess it depends on your viewpoint. ;) |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Big Donger on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:47pm Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:36pm:
Sounds like the old boy's gone all shy. What's the matter, dear boy, cat got your tongue? Were the Autopen, the Kenyan and the sex trafficker corrupt or not? |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Big Donger on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:48pm lee wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:42pm:
Thanks for your detailed reply to Sprint's question, Lee. Was that a yes? |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by lee on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:53pm Big Donger wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:48pm:
So you couldn't understand my reply. Don't worry I will cover for you. ;) lee wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:42pm:
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Big Donger on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 8:04pm lee wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:53pm:
So, you don't want to say. Why is that, do you think? I'm guessing you won't want to answer this one too. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by lee on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 8:15pm
The question is do you believe they were not? ;)
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Frank on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 8:18pm Big Donger wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:47pm:
Of course they were corrupt! You do not believe for a moment, do you, that Biden was in charge of ANYTHING??? He was too thick to be VP and too far gone to be prez. Moth eaten sock puppet with the Kenyan half-white guy up his arse, moving his lips. Everyone knows that. Even Biden. And the half-Kenyyan guy was a creature of the Chicago Mob, sorry, Chicago Dem Machine operated by Rahm Emanuel. And who is touted as a possible Dem nominee for 2028? Er... yes.... Rahm. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 8:36pm Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 8:18pm:
that means for the past 20+ years the us has had corrupt leaders. their political system is flawed |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Dnarever on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 9:54pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 4:16pm:
I don't think any politician can be excluded from the possibility of corruption but I see no doubt that the conservative side is 10 X worse in general. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Dnarever on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 9:57pm Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 8:18pm:
Bidens numbers say that he was the best President in 70 years where Trump has had two failed attempts to the point where his only competition for the worst President is with himself between his first failed term and his second. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Dnarever on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 10:02pm Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 8:18pm:
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You know that Trump is an American for no other reason than his grandfather was thrown out of Germany. You know the guy who was arrested at a KKK march. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by aquascoot on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 10:31pm
I think Obama wasn't too bad.
Joe was a bit corrupt but not very good at it. Bill and Donny are both very self centered narcissists. Chris Hutchins who is very admirable ( dead now from cancer) wrote a book about the clintons. Pretty damming stuff. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by aquascoot on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 10:39pm
Hitchens’ main allegations about the Clintons
1. Habitual lying and political manipulation In his book No One Left to Lie To, Hitchens argued that: Bill Clinton was a “serial liar” who used deception as a core political strategy He accused Clinton of “triangulation”—adapting positions purely for political survival rather than principle � Wikipedia 👉 This wasn’t just criticism—it was a full-on argument that Clinton’s presidency was fundamentally dishonest. 2. Smear campaigns against accusers (Monica Lewinsky case) Hitchens made one of his most concrete claims under oath: He submitted an affidavit saying a Clinton ally described Monica Lewinsky as a “stalker” He alleged this reflected a coordinated effort by the Clinton circle to discredit her This fed into his broader claim that the Clintons: Destroyed or smeared critics and accusers Used loyalists (“Clintonoids,” as he called them) to do it publicly and privately � Inquisitr News 3. “Clinton machine” / culture of intimidation Hitchens often described a wider ecosystem around them: A network of operatives, allies, and media figures who would attack opponents aggressively A political culture he called “poisonous” or “nasty” He wasn’t alleging assassinations—but he was alleging: Character assassination Media manipulation Coordinated political hit jobs Hutchins also pointed out the incorrect allegation of a Sudanese pharmaceutical factory as a chemical weapons factory and is destruction on the day he appeared before a grandjury over the Lewinsky affair resulted in the deaths of some 400 civilians who were just making antibiotics for the people of sudan . Lefties might call this a war crime |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Big Donger on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:09pm lee wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 8:15pm:
You see? You can't even say. This is what the truth has become. Ah, the "narrow road to success". Armageddonism 101, innit. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Big Donger on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:11pm aquascoot wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 10:31pm:
Hang on, did you just say they weren't corrupt? Please explain? |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Biggest donger on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:15pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 8:36pm:
When everything is perfect you have reached the end. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Big Donger on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:50pm Leroy wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:15pm:
Do you agree with Sprint, Biggest Donger? A simple yes or no will suffice. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Jasin on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:52pm Leroy wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:15pm:
Whadaya reckon Leeroy. Sprint is quite insane? He says the American system is flawed. Well der ::) It's been that way since their Independence Day. Barking up the wrong tree after Rome & Athens. Having thrown the British Holy Grail away. Now along comes internet Trump the Saxon, who along with Anglo Johnson and Protestant Morrison - the planets aligned. USA had a bit of a true Western British renaissance. And Sprint blames Trump for all that that former Leftism, that has fallen away. Maybe I'm harsh, maybe he's not insane. Maybe he's just plain stupid. Crying in the rain. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Big Donger on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:54pm Jasin wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:52pm:
Modern classic, innit. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by lee on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:13pm Big Donger wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:09pm:
The thing is I don't know. You don't know. It may be true, it may not be true. But of course you only want people's beliefs, not truth. ::) |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by lee on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:15pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 10:02pm:
Simply wrong again. You never fail. It was Trump's father who was arrested and released, no charge, for "failure to move on as directed". In fact his father "donated the plot of land where the Beach Haven Jewish Center was built in Brooklyn and contributed towards its construction. He affectionately referred to Rabbi Israel Wagner, who approached the elder Trump for help, as "My Rabbi." https://www.israelhayom.com/2020/10/16/fred-and-donald-trumps-jewish-connection/ That doesn't sound remotely like the KKK. Keep slinging mud. You may get some to stick. But that certainly isn't it. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D BTW - Trump's |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by SadKangaroo on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:34pm
Corrupt is corrupt.
Viewpoints only really come into it around if one cares about the corruption or not. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by chimera on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:57pm lee wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:15pm:
'Donald Trump became the president of his father's real-estate business in 1971. Two years later, they were sued by the U.S. Justice Department's Civil Rights Division for racial discrimination against black people. .. Shortly before his death, Fred transferred the ownership of most of his buildings to his surviving children, who several years later sold them for over 16 times their previously declared worth. From World War II onward, to avoid associations with Nazism, Fred Trump denied his German ancestry and also supported Jewish causes'. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by lee on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 1:23pm chimera wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:57pm:
And burnt crosses on their front lawns? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by lee on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 1:25pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:34pm:
And I have never said anything different. It depends on your viewpoint. Beliefs. ;) |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by chimera on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 2:23pm lee wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 1:23pm:
no ha ha ha ;D ;D ;D ha ha |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by scope on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 2:50pm lee wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:15pm:
No mud slinging there just the facts. Donald Trump's grandfather, Friedrich Trump (later Frederick), was a German immigrant born in 1869 in Kallstadt, Bavaria. He emigrated to the U.S. in 1885 at age 16, built a fortune running restaurants and hotels (including, in some reports, brothels) in the U.S. and Canada. He was banished from Germany in 1905 for avoiding military service and failing to register his initial emigration. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Frank on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 2:55pm scope wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 2:50pm:
And now they are taking in millions of invaders who have failed to reister their emigration with their various third world shitehole countries. Germany, eh??? |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by lee on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 2:57pm scope wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 2:50pm:
So where does it say it was Trump's grandfather arrested at the KKK march?? |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Big Donger on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 5:10pm lee wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:13pm:
So the answer's no. Why didn't you just say that to begin with? They've all answered, Sprint. Is it time for your second question yet? |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Big Donger on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 5:16pm lee wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 2:57pm:
The thing is I don't know. You don't know. It may be true, it may not be true.. We'll have to wait and see what happens, no? |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 5:18pm Big Donger wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 5:16pm:
What does KKKaroline Leavitt say about all this? |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Dnarever on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 5:26pm
We may not be sure about some US Presidents but the the only one who is a convicted criminal and insurectionist there is zero doubt about his dishonest corrupt nature.
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Biggest donger on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 5:34pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 5:26pm:
You doubt Clinton, Bush and Biden were corrupt?. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Dnarever on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 5:41pm lee wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 2:57pm:
Sorry it appears that it was Trumps father. Some say that Donald still has his dads white pointy hat. After all Trump defended the white nationalists who protested in Charlottesville, saying they included “some very fine people,” His buddy threw a real nice nazi salute at his inauguration. Its not like there isn't a substantial history with Trump and white nationalists. Quote:
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Biggest donger on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 5:45pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 5:41pm:
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't some US presidents actually own slaves?. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Big Donger on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 5:50pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 5:18pm:
That's a tough one, Greggery. It's a little bit long. KKKaroline's a communicator. Can you understand what she's saying? https://youtu.be/97L5wN2OgnM?si=PBccY_pSZHBlumXV |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Big Donger on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 5:53pm Leroy wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 5:34pm:
Sorry, Sprint, we're still on question one. Biggest Donger has his doubts. I think we'll take this one as a comment, Biggest. Can we move onto question two now, Sprint? |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 6:05pm Big Donger wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 5:50pm:
It's hard to make out what she's saying when her mouth is full. I did catch her saying that Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi were the most trusted people in the White House. So, why were they sacked? :-/ Maybe all that saline and Botox in her tits and face has gone to her brain. The poor little dear doesn't make much sense at all. Perhaps she should spend more time looking after the needs of her 80 year old husband rather than making a fool of herself at press briefings. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by scope on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 6:58pm lee wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 2:57pm:
So he wasnt wrong about trumps grandfather being deported from Germany. Which was the sentence I replied to. Which you claimed was wrong. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Dnarever on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 8:06pm Leroy wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 5:34pm:
Yes. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Frank on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 8:51pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 8:06pm:
No cigar, duckwit... |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Jasin on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 8:55pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 8:06pm:
I accept that. ...it's just the world is proving you wrong. They were as corrupt as Newsome of California and his $180 BILLION 💸💵💸💵 lost to Frauds and Pockets. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Big Donger on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 8:57pm Frank wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 8:51pm:
So? Provide the cigar. Tell us all how CORRUPT the sex trafficker, the Kenyan and the teapot were, Frannie. Say it. We'll hold out a bucket. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Dnarever on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 9:02pm Frank wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 8:51pm:
There not good for you Furta. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Jasin on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 9:06pm
Ever get the impression Karnal. That no-one pays you much attention?
I know I don't. I didn't even read your post, knowing full well it's as nothing burger as an Anus address to the nation. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Dnarever on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 9:06pm Jasin wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 8:55pm:
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Any examples to support your opinion ? It certainly isn't clear and obvious like with Trump. Bush was a terrible President but I am not aware of any obvious corruption. Biden is almost certainly not corrupt Clinton a little sus but nothing confirmed I am aware of. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Jasin on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 9:09pm
Dude. Even your beloved Media is finding it hard to keep the lie going.
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Frank on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 9:10pm Big Donger wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 8:57pm:
Sticking a cigar up an intern and then smoking it while she is sucking you is pretty corrupt. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Dnarever on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 9:13pm Jasin wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 9:06pm:
Do you know about the pot and the kettle JaSin ? |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Emerging Chinese Lesbian on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 9:17pm Frank wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 9:10pm:
That isn't "corrupt," Frannie. There are several words in the English language that are far more appropriate: "erotic" comes to mind. |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Big Donger on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 9:35pm Jasin wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 9:06pm:
Not really, JaSin, no. Every time we post, there you are, telling us, informing us, sharing with us all about important topics like Anus, beloved Media and God knows what else. The cards and letters just keep coming, dear. I must remember to reply to the old boy. The poor dear sends me a card every Christmas. You? |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Big Donger on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 9:44pm Frank wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 9:10pm:
Is it now? Strange. We distinctly remember you telling us DL sticking his fingers in E Jean, Stormy Daniels, Karen McDougal and God knows who else was his business and SO UNFAIR !!! Would you like to take that one back, dear chap? Do tell. We're veering perilously close to Sprint's second question. Please explain? |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by lee on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 10:01pm scope wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 6:58pm:
oh so you want to quibble about the rest. That is so lefty of you. The lie should rest on the entirety. ::) Two sentences, one paragraph - means the idea is linked. But of course only if English is your second or third,... language. ;) |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Jasin on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 10:42pm Big Donger wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 9:35pm:
Beats you talking about failing to be a woman (*🥱), sucking on all levels and rimming around Pecca's fascination with Rape and little children who chant "Death to Jews & America" |
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Title: Re: query on us presidents Post by Jasin on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 10:43pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 9:13pm:
I know they are outdated like your Leftism in Politics. Personally, I use a JUG. ;) :P ;D In Australia mate. We say "Boil the Jug" |
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