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Message started by chimera on Mar 27th, 2026 at 6:29pm

Title: doin goverment stuff
Post by chimera on Mar 27th, 2026 at 6:29pm
It's not easy to do governing. Alright, companies can do it but they have experts, right?

'Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says his Government is attempting to be “overprepared for what may come”, flagging that, unlike the COVID response, any response to the war in Iran would be national.
One of the lessons of the COVID pandemic is that we made a number of decisions as a nation that could have been made better.'

Fuel, fertiliser, ships, stock-piles. They need governance but it's a bit much to ask from elected office holders just trying to earn salary. And no housing and hospital shortage. It's all too hard.

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by Jasin on Mar 27th, 2026 at 6:47pm
Over prepared 😆🤣😂

Is this their latest treat Aussies as dumbies as usual?
They've been under prepared in everything that has come their way!

Anus is the Mayor of Amityville Island telling everyone to get back in the water.

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by lee on Mar 28th, 2026 at 2:30pm
And government bureaucrats have no expertise in anything. Got it. All those lefty bureaucrats that change with the change of government. ::)

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by chimera on Mar 28th, 2026 at 3:55pm
Bureaucrat expertise must exist if companies have experts. But they don't make MPs statements and are meant to be publicly  invisible. (The head of ASIO's speeches are unusual).

Royal Commissions cost $xxxxetc and MPs ignore or dilute the results to fit policy. Albo declares decision weaknesses and the need to be 'overprepared'. The buck stops there.

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by lee on Mar 28th, 2026 at 3:58pm

chimera wrote on Mar 28th, 2026 at 3:55pm:
But they don't make MPs statements and are meant to be publicly  invisible. (



Ah "meant to be" but not "don't exist" and not "we don't listen to bureaucrats" ;)

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by chimera on Mar 28th, 2026 at 4:21pm
I'm sure you have an idea but it doesn't come across.  It's like your Vietnam deaths q. - there seems no point to your quibbles.

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by Daves2017 on Mar 28th, 2026 at 4:26pm
I don’t believe that it’s terribly difficult to govern.

Australia is an incredibly gifted nation of nature’s wealth.

We have a function democracy ( with a few marks on it, hello run rebellion, Dan Andrew’s government and  Kristina Marie Kerscher Keneally as bad as the rum rebellion state government) that functions adequately.
We have a workable constitution which allows individual rights as well as powers to protect the  country as a whole.

Unfortunately, our current political leaders over the last several decades have sought to not only destroy and  deny the legitimacy of our Constitution and its provisions but eagerly work against it.

As an example I don’t believe we require another public servant  (Anthea Harris was appointed as Australia's National Fuel Coordinator in March 2026 to lead a new Fuel Supply Taskforce within the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet )!appointed on half a million dollars  pa  plus travel expenses to discover what is wrong with  the Australian fuel supply.

Not only were these matters discussed long ago and intelligent plans resolved and written instructions agreed to  and provided but it’s  all simply  since been  ignored -

“ The International Energy Agency (IEA) requires member nations to hold oil stocks equivalent to at least 90 days of the previous year's net imports to ensure supply security. While many countries comply, Australia has failed to meet this obligation since 2012.”

“ AI

We don’t need more intelligent people in government. Far from it. We only require more people with the ability to read and do as instructed.

That simple human quality is not available in our current coup of mismanagement.

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Mar 28th, 2026 at 4:27pm
70%+ of goverment is carried on by bureaucrats appoint...... by regulation and 'interpretation' of what 'legislation' means.

You've seen the most abominable example in the way 'native title' has developed massive mission over-creep and been somehow turned into some absolute right to be handed freehold over millions of acres, regardless of who else is there.   The worst part is probably 'unused national park' etc - NONE of that is 'not in use' - it is in daily use as National Park etc.  Same applies to Crown Land - it is not unused - it is land in waiting for future developments....

One clear reason why I have always opposed appointed by the party of the day honchoes in departments.... if you can't see why I cannot help those beyond help.

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by lee on Mar 28th, 2026 at 4:27pm

chimera wrote on Mar 28th, 2026 at 4:21pm:
I'm sure you have an idea but it doesn't come across.



Whereas you have no idea. ;)

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by chimera on Mar 28th, 2026 at 4:29pm


Daves2017 wrote on Mar 28th, 2026 at 4:26pm:
I don’t believe that it’s terribly difficult to govern.

Good one.
(did you read it, lee?)

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by lee on Mar 28th, 2026 at 4:32pm

chimera wrote on Mar 28th, 2026 at 4:29pm:
Good one.
(did you read it, lee?)



yes. So why do Labor find it so difficult? ::)

It is also exactly opposite you OP.

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by chimera on Mar 28th, 2026 at 4:35pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 28th, 2026 at 4:27pm:
70%+ of goverment is carried on by bureaucrats .


Could be, but the MPs are accountable in responsible government.
Bureaucrats aren't and the Minister is to sort them out. In Westminster, pollies are stood down for misleading Plmt even if it's a public servant tricking them up. This is gone in Oz so pollies are slack. Nevertheless, legally they hold the can.

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by chimera on Mar 28th, 2026 at 4:37pm
Dear Lee,
Satire is a genre of literature, performing arts, and visual media that uses humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize human vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings. While often entertaining, its greater purpose is usually constructive social criticism, aiming to shame individuals, corporations, or society into improvement.

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by lee on Mar 28th, 2026 at 4:39pm

chimera wrote on Mar 28th, 2026 at 4:37pm:
Satire is a genre of literature, performing arts, and visual media that uses humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize human vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings.


Ah so which of your comments was satire? ::)

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by chimera on Mar 28th, 2026 at 5:21pm
so you ask me to google your questions, misread my comments and ask what is the satire.

hard work with you lee

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by lee on Mar 28th, 2026 at 5:22pm
Says someone who won't post links to quotes they make. ;)

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Mar 28th, 2026 at 5:43pm

chimera wrote on Mar 28th, 2026 at 4:35pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 28th, 2026 at 4:27pm:
70%+ of goverment is carried on by bureaucrats .


Could be, but the MPs are accountable in responsible government.
Bureaucrats aren't and the Minister is to sort them out. In Westminster, pollies are stood down for misleading Plmt even if it's a public servant tricking them up. This is gone in Oz so pollies are slack. Nevertheless, legally they hold the can.


Well - that precludes any responsibility here in Oz.

Here we have government not only unresponsive to its constituents, but also unresponsive to its responsibilities as written down.

Look at it this way, son... remember the story of George Washington and his father's cherry tree that George cut down?  Now in that situation George would say - "I cannot tell a lie, dad - I cut that cherry tree down!"

Now in politics here and today George (Albo) would say - "I cannot tell a lie, dad!  That cherry tree committed suicide by axe!"

Relate that to our current fuel 'crisis' -and the endless lies about it, all dedicated to keeping the peasants off balance and ripe for the plucking by their overlords...

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by Bobby. on Mar 28th, 2026 at 5:47pm

Albo needs to tell us why he should remain as our leader?


Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by Jasin on Mar 28th, 2026 at 6:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 28th, 2026 at 5:47pm:
Albo needs to tell us why he should remain as our leader?

He just gets the Media like the ABC grifters to do it for him.

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by aquascoot on Mar 29th, 2026 at 7:14am
I've met a few politicians.

Palashuzh, Steven miles, Jim chalmers  Craig Emerson.

They are pretty unimpressive.

Anastasia was at the races with her slimey  gastric stapling  boyfriend who lives in a 20 million dollar house and is constantly facing malpractice law suits.

I was in a room with Jeanette young... a shocking communicator.

Once you have met some of leaders. You will realise how ordinary they are.
They really can't solve anything.

Some of my farming neighbours can solve problems at a very high level.

But not politicians.

What about the top public servants.

If you work for the tax office or the department of infrastructure or technology, you might be on 500,000 at the very top.

That's chickenfeed.

I know farriers and excavator operators who make that.

If you are good, the private sector will poach you so only the lower calibre people remain.


Understanding this, I think it's just sensible to take personal responsibility.

The people you rely on to keep you " safe and comfortable " are not able to do so.
They aren't smart enough and the real power resides with the top tech bros and bankers who treat you like an insignificant ant.

They aren't out to hurt you deliberately, but they could not care less about your life.


Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by chimera on Mar 29th, 2026 at 7:51am
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/2026/03/28/labor-has-neglected-more-than-50-inquiry-reports

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Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by Carl D on Mar 29th, 2026 at 6:43pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29th, 2026 at 7:14am:
I've met a few politicians.

Palashuzh, Steven miles, Jim chalmers  Craig Emerson.

They are pretty unimpressive.

Anastasia was at the races with her slimey  gastric stapling  boyfriend who lives in a 20 million dollar house and is constantly facing malpractice law suits.

I was in a room with Jeanette young... a shocking communicator.

Once you have met some of leaders. You will realise how ordinary they are.
They really can't solve anything.

Some of my farming neighbours can solve problems at a very high level.

But not politicians.

What about the top public servants.

If you work for the tax office or the department of infrastructure or technology, you might be on 500,000 at the very top.

That's chickenfeed.

I know farriers and excavator operators who make that.

If you are good, the private sector will poach you so only the lower calibre people remain.


Understanding this, I think it's just sensible to take personal responsibility.

The people you rely on to keep you " safe and comfortable " are not able to do so.
They aren't smart enough and the real power resides with the top tech bros and bankers who treat you like an insignificant ant.

They aren't out to hurt you deliberately, but they could not care less about your life.


"Personal responsibility" again.

In Australia? You've got to be kidding.  ;D

As I've said many times - the only "personal responsibility" practised by the majority of the population is the "I'm alright and stuff everyone else" sort.

Like we saw with toilet paper 6 years ago and now with petrol and (coming soon) groceries, etc.

Better stock up now while you still can (but don't panic buy).  ::)

Title: Re: doin goverment stuff
Post by chimera on Mar 29th, 2026 at 6:58pm
And even when the baddies are named as in Robodebt, it's just too much fuss to hold anyone to account. She'll be right.

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