Post by Frank on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:53pm
I call on Jodie to cut Albawesel's ties.
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Title: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by whiteknight on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:50am
Republic now: Greens call on Albanese to cut ties with the whole monarchy
2026-02-24 greens.org.au Senator Mehreen Faruqi, Deputy Greens Leader and spokesperson for the Republic, has commented on Prime Minister Albanese’s letter to the UK Prime Minister urging the removal of ex-Prince Andrew from the line of succession. Senator Faruqi has called for the Prime Minister to cut all ties with the monarchy. The time for republic is now. Lines attributable to Senator Mehreen Faruqi, Deputy Leader of the Greens and spokesperson for the Republic: “Prime Minister Albanese writing to the UK to support removing ex-Prince Andrew from the line of succession is not leadership. It is a humiliating reminder that Australia is still shackled to a corrupt and crumbling royal family. “Rather than pleading with a foreign government to clean up its messes, Australia should be cutting ties altogether and choosing its own head of state. “Ex-Prince Andrew is the product of a rotten institution built on inherited privilege, secrecy and impunity. “Australia needs to confront the bigger truth that the monarchy is an outdated, unaccountable institution built on colonial violence and stolen wealth. The latest horrific scandal is not an aberration. It is a symptom of a broken system that is not fit to represent us. “You cannot polish a rotten crown. The time for a republic is now. Instead of writing letters, Albanese should begin the process of constitutional change, led by First Nations voices." |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by freediver on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:23am
The republican movement is like a chameleon. It can take on hundreds of different disguises. The one thing it cannot produce is a better alternative to our current system. Until they do that, any talk of being "not a monarchy any more" is just pointless whining.
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:29am whiteknight wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:50am:
Oh, FFS!!! Bugger off! |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 10:01am |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by freediver on Feb 25th, 2026 at 10:18am
They don't appear to put forward an alternative proposal either. Pretty hopeless.
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 10:24am freediver wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 10:18am:
Yes they do. It's quite simple - replace the monarch with an elected, Australian Head of State. What are the basics? An Australian will hold the role of Head of State. The Australian people will choose the person who becomes Head of State through an election using the compulsory preferential voting system used for the House of Representatives. Candidates will be nominated by the Federal, State and Territory Parliaments. As our elected representatives they will be charged with finding candidates free from political interference and mandates, people who could proudly represent us on the world stage. The Head of State will act on advice of the Government. The Head of State will hold limited powers to ensure the smooth functioning of Government and Parliament. The Head of State will be accountable to the people and will serve five-year terms with a maximum of two terms. The Prime Minister will be written into the Constitution as Head of Government and be charged with the role of administering the nation and setting the policy agenda. Oaths and Affirmations will be sworn to Australia, its people and the Constitution and laws of our nation. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 25th, 2026 at 10:41am
'Did you know that the first rubber stamp was created in 1844?
Since then, rubber stamps have come along way but the original basis for their existence is still needed.' https://www.rubberstamps.com.au/rubber-stamps?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=6935220&gbraid=0AAAAAD_kdebNBuUTbLD-Ls2laMJegw12G&gclid=Cj0KCQiAtfXMBhDzARIsAJ0jp3A-QhsqtX2mJoTFiFaEmlWyRsjUK9GxlB-MsnfOJubLwJQNgC_1R10aAjUHEALw_wcB |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by freediver on Feb 25th, 2026 at 10:44am Quote:
By who? Quote:
Would that mean they are not actually the head of state? Quote:
What powers exactly? Quote:
What is the point of doing this? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 10:55am freediver wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 10:44am:
Would that mean they are not actually the head of state? Quote:
What powers exactly? Quote:
What is the point of doing this?[/quote] https://republic.org.au/contact |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 25th, 2026 at 11:18am freediver wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 10:44am:
Do you know nothing about British constitutional government? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 25th, 2026 at 12:51pm
The succession of Andrew is unlikely but still legally possible. If Oz refuses him but UK allows him to be king, we have a problem. It emphasises the silliness of 'king of Australia' idea. Was Charles crowned with a little bit sliced off for Australia? The High Court of Australia ruled in the 1999 case Sue v Hill that the United Kingdom is a "foreign power". The king is crowned in one country to rule over what's not his there, but is his overseas. But we only want monarchy because it's British. But not British.
If Oz rejects Andrew, we could go to Princess Beatrice (Mrs. Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi), born in 1988, ninth in line to the British throne. Mrs Mozzi would be good for Oz head of state and has a nickname ready to go. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by lee on Feb 25th, 2026 at 1:01pm chimera wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 10:41am:
Who needs rubber stamps when they have autopen. ::) |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by freediver on Feb 25th, 2026 at 1:07pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 10:55am:
What powers exactly? Quote:
What is the point of doing this?[/quote] https://republic.org.au/contact[/quote] So you don't understand the point of their proposal either? Here's a proposal: make the King an honorary Australian citizen. Problem solved. By way of thanks, the republican movement people can find something else to complain about. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 25th, 2026 at 1:22pm freediver wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 1:07pm:
Are you an Arab? Just asking. He owns Australia and your house. The King is the font of Australian citizenship. As this Sovereign he cannot be a citizen of any of his other Realms including the UK. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 25th, 2026 at 1:26pm lee wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 1:01pm:
Autopen is for wimps when real guys bang the hammer. Rubber stamps are no nonsense whack on the bench. Elon had a chain-saw. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:33pm When considering the model for a republic, the fundamental question is – do we want an Australian who we choose to represent us as Head of State or do we want an English aristocrat born into power with no connection to Australia to lead us for life from the other side of the world? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by freediver on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:44pm
No Greg. The fundamental question is, can the republicans come up with a system that is actually better than the current one?
So far the answer is no, which is why they try to pretend that the fundamental question is oh wouldn't that be nice. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:44pm freediver wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:44pm:
Ah. That's easy to answer: yes. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by freediver on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:45pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:44pm:
Which system do you think is better Greg? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:49pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:33pm:
The question is - can we find someone less crooked than the Royals to be the head of State? e.g. Barnaby Joyce? Bill Shorten? Tony Abbott? Malcolm Turnbull? Kevin Rudd? Daniel Andrews? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:53pm
I call on Jodie to cut Albawesel's ties.
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:55pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:49pm:
What?!?? No Abos? No women, gays, trans, efniks, Muslims, Chinese, refugees, disabled - sorry = otherwise abled, blind and deaf? White supremacist!!! |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:58pm Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:55pm:
Makes no difference - Australia is a country full of crooks. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:02pm freediver wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:45pm:
The one I posted. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:05pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:49pm:
We wouldn't be picking a career politician as our HOS. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:07pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:58pm:
The prez must be a one-legged, lesbian trans aboriginal-Chinese Muslim convert. Anything less is obviously a white supremacist, wacist-colonialist patriarchal consiracy. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by freediver on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:19pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:02pm:
Why could you not explain the point of putting the PM position into the constitution? Quote:
;D The entire nation would vote for someone who is not a politician? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:37pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:05pm:
The older I get the more cynical I am - I don't trust anyone now - not our pollys and not the Royal family. To me they all self entitled grifters. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:37pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 10:24am:
Oh really? ;D You can't even tell the difference between the Great Britain aspect and the United Kingdom aspect and their roles and purpose. It's like you can't tell the difference between a Politician & a Musician-Singer. There's a good reason why UK Royals are deemed to stay out of British Politics. So here's the punchline: What has a Master of Ceremony, aka 'King' got to do with a POLITICAL change in Australia ❓❓❓ I've put a spanner in the works with these very Anti-Royalties of Entertainment Republicans long ago and they still can't cut the mustard without corrupting the truth of it. The most recent attempt was a cry out for Republicanism when the Queen died by vultures like Thomas Keneally, Bryan Brown & Peter Fitzsimmons - all of which a just Media Lefty entertainment celebrities. You would think they should be against UK inclusion in Eurovision or ban UK Royalty from appearing on Australian TV. ...but no. They twist it like a blatant lie, that we need a POLITICAL change, with a (USA like) President as Head of 'State(s)' and with nothing to offer but an IRISH REPUBLIC cliche replication because they can't really think up a better one. This is no different to Old World gripes like Moslems bringing their hatred of Jews, etc here to Australia. Instead it's Old World gripes of Irish against English, etc. WE DONT NEED THAT SH#T HERE. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:44pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:33pm:
Again. The BRITISH political sponsorship of Australia is represented by the Governor-General. The Prime Ministers have always been the USA's lapdog and groveller. Or do you think we should follow the now defined German, the currently failing French and/or the Roman/Athenian Italian & Greek politics - which the USA chose to do by rejecting the British. Maybe you should read up on why Hawaii kept the Union Jack on its flag. It's very wise, in regards to the benefits of colonisation. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:50pm
If you don't want United KINGdom royals ruling over you, then maybe make TRUE BLUE JOHN WILLIAMS as our King 👑 or some other MASTER OF CEREMONY during a halftime footy break.
Of course the Abos will still reject that. Maybe Gwoggy thinks ScoMo should represent Australia with his Ukelele at the next Eurovision??😆😆 That's how absurd these Republic whingings are. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:51pm Jasin wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:44pm:
It's very simple. Instead of a foreign monarch being born into the position of our Head of State, we'll have an elected Australian as our HOS. If we become a republic, we would stay close friends and allies of the United Kingdom – that will never change. We won’t change the Westminster system of government, the separation of powers, the rule of law, responsible government, free and fair elections, or the primacy of the will of the Australian people – these will continue as the core of our governance. A republic will strengthen those principles by adding a Head of State elected locally who can be held to account and help hold the three branches of government to account, further strengthening democracy, responsible government and the rule of law. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:59pm
You are very SIMPLE indeed.
Ready Mr Music ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:09pm |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:18pm Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:09pm:
Yep. Australian Media Leftism. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:26pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:51pm:
I thought you didn't like the American system of directly elected prez? Under your 'model' we would have TWO popularly elected leaders, one of them the leader of the party with the most seats in the lower house and therefore the PM of the government and one as the leader of the State, the person in whom constitutional power rest. The bedrock of Australia's legal existence is by the declaration of the sovereign, on advice by the Privy Counil*. In short, the sovereign's proclamation is the creative power, the 'let there be Australia' power. Having such a constitutional power vested in a popularly elected person is a recipe for poliical conflict and dispute of mandates and legitimacy. The beauty of the hereditary monarchy is that the head of state is a symbol, a 'personification;' of the country without any electoral mandate whatsoever. None of the 'people elected me and want me to do this' stuff. * 2. Act to extend to the Queen's successors The provisions of this Act referring to the Queen [Victoria] shall extend to Her Majesty's heirs and successors in the sovereignty of the United Kingdom. 3. Proclamation of Commonwealth It shall be lawful for the Queen, with the advice of the Privy Council, to declare by proclamation that, on and after a day therein appointed, not being later than one year after the passing of this Act, the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania, and also, if Her Majesty is satisfied that the people of Western Australia have agreed thereto, of Western Australia, shall be united in a Federal Commonwealth under the name of the Commonwealth of Australia. But the Queen may, at any time after the proclamation, appoint a Governor-General for the Commonwealth. The Australian Constitution is one of the oldest and most stable in the world. Why tinker with it? Just because Gough as dismissed and an election was called which he lost spectacularly? Hardly a reason to *uck up the constitutional and political order. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:31pm
Now if we had a pro-political (& military) right wing REAL Governor-General and not this Lefty ALP implant currently in.
It might be the case of "AND NOTHING WILL SAVE THE ANUS PRIME MINISTER" ;) |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:52pm Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:26pm:
Oh dear ::) Like so many others uneducated on this matter, you're assuming that our President would be the same as the US President just because they're both called 'Presidents'. They won't. Moreover, we probably wouldn't even use the word 'President', as it confuses halfwits like yourself. We would probably just use the term 'Head of State'. So, one more time for the slow learners at the back of the class: If we become a republic, we would stay close friends and allies of the United Kingdom – that will never change. We won’t change the Westminster system of government, the separation of powers, the rule of law, responsible government, free and fair elections, or the primacy of the will of the Australian people – these will continue as the core of our governance. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:56pm
The nation began with mad Geo III who was hallucinating, disoriented and manic. It could have had Andrew if Charles died at polo. There was John Kerr who got things wrong. President Xi may be right.
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:00pm
Gwoggy doesn't realise that the 'celebrities' behind these Republican pipe ups are Anti - UK (which draws in Anti-British in regards to the political aspect)
but Pro-USA (Media Leftism) politics and that 'president' thing was a loyalty to the USA presidential. A case of wanting an Americanised War of Independence against the English, etc, etc. Irish v English, etc, etc ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:07pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:52pm:
As always, you slimely, stupidly, dishonestly and on purpose, avoid the substance of my post and bang on about your own baseless assertions as if you represented the educated' take on matters. Ludicrous. The similarity between the US prez and ours, whatever you might call him, would be that both are directly elected by the population. That is a huge political mandate. Not even the PM is popularly elected, not state premiers, not High Court Judges. Even Senators are only popularly elected in each state and not by the entire country, the Senate supposedly being the States' House. So a directly, popularly elected prez/HoS/Big Chief/[your preferred title here] would have hugely greater political mandate than a mere PM or premier all of whom can be chaged by their own parliamentary party. A popularly elected president would have an even greater popular mandate than the head of government. That is not minimalist, that is a massive political change. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:10pm chimera wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:56pm:
George III died centuries ago but you are still with us, gesticulating disorientedly and hallusinating maniacally. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:16pm Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:07pm:
You and fd must be Arabs. Or you're so accustomed to abuse as conversation that your mind is locked. Try and read the words again, saying them out loud if needed. Or ask the kids next door. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by lee on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:20pm
Political promises are like unicorn farts. They cease having meaning once published.
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:30pm
You have experience with publishing unicorn farts? The farts had meaning for you before you published them? You have some unicorns? You paid for them, their feed and the cost of publishing their farts? What do you call the publication? Why has it lost meaning?
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:30pm chimera wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:16pm:
:D :D :D Are you tranlating from Vietnamese? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:31pm chimera wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:16pm:
It's pointless - I don't think they'll ever understand. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:41pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:31pm:
Which bit of this don't you understandd, sad, sub bozos: A popularly elected president would have an even greater popular mandate than the head of government. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:51pm
So you refuse to read the explanation. Getting old are you?
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:53pm Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:41pm:
Just to be clear: you prefer a foreigner, living on the other side of the planet, to be born into the position? Why is that? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 25th, 2026 at 6:06pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:53pm:
You are clearly living in the Northern Hemisphere. Maybe Perth is really Los Angeles? Seems you're the one living on the other side of the planet. You should stop watching Planet America on TV. You're just a Down Under (for America) Australian. Not a 'Day Ahead' of America, Australian. Hence your inferiority to understand. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 25th, 2026 at 6:09pm lee wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:20pm:
Frank likes them. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 25th, 2026 at 7:42pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:53pm:
Dont switch, lying, dishonest creep. A popularly elected president would have an even greater popular mandate than the head of government. That was the point. Address it, dishonest, devous llying creep, don't ignore it. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 7:45pm Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 7:42pm:
I don't have a problem with it. It's preferable to a foreigner, living on the other side of the planet, being born into the position. Why do you object to it? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 25th, 2026 at 7:51pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 7:45pm:
Why?? If you were really as 'educated' as you pretend, despicable creep, you would have read and comprehended my fairly longish and detailed recent posts on the matter on this tread. But being both thick and a lying,dishonet creep, you still do not understand/pretend not to understand. I am not sure what is worse - your stupidity or your dishonesty. You combine thick as mince idiocy and disgusting dishonesty in a way unique to you. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 7:56pm Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 7:51pm:
So, you don't actually know why you think it's a bad thing. It's just the vibe of the thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMuh33BMZYY So, why do you believe it's a good thing for Australia to have a foreigner as our Head of State - living on the other side of the planet - born into the position? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 25th, 2026 at 7:59pm Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:26pm:
Frank, it was finished when Queen Victoria signed the Proclamation on September 17, 1900. 126 years ago. Been there done that and never to be repeated. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:11pm chimera wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 7:59pm:
Thank you Vietnamese idiot (are you Vietnamese? Samoan? Guetamalan?) I did post clause 2 (which you ignored, you idiot) right before clause 3 that you included, but you being a grimacing loon, you missed it. Stop iimitating stupid dishonest gweggy. You are a supernumary moron. Not needed. Still, carry on like the ijit you are. You can't help it. He can't. We do realise. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by freediver on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:46pm freediver wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:19pm:
Greg, if you think the proposal is better than what we have now, can you explain the point of it? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:50pm freediver wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:46pm:
Easy. We'll have an elected HOS who is an Australian citizen, living in Australia, rather than a foreigner born into the position living on the other side of the planet. Why do you think it's okay for people to be born into positions of power and to have control over countries they don't even live in? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by freediver on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:52pm
Can you explain the point of putting the PM position into the constitution?
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:55pm freediver wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:19pm:
We would choose someone who is not a career politician. How many of our Governors General have been career politicians - four? Maybe five? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:57pm freediver wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:52pm:
To ensure accountability and provide stability. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:58pm
So Gwoggy doesn't want a British political rulership over Australia, but can only muster the courage to blame the Royals instead.
In favour of an Americanised (neo-classival /archaic spaghetti Westernism) Presidential as Head of State (States?) . Now where does that leave the National Federal level? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by lee on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:59pm
Hmm Elected politicians and accountability. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 9:03pm Jasin wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:58pm:
There would be absolutely nothing "Americanised" about our Head of State. We won’t change the Westminster system of government, the separation of powers, the rule of law, responsible government, free and fair elections, or the primacy of the will of the Australian people – these will continue as the core of our governance. A republic will strengthen those principles by adding a Head of State elected locally who can be held to account and help hold the three branches of government to account, further strengthening democracy, responsible government and the rule of law. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 9:04pm lee wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:59pm:
No, not politicians. Our HOS would not be a career politician. Is our Governor General a career politician? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 25th, 2026 at 9:06pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 9:03pm:
And chances are that he will be a little paedophile rapist of children with a harem of concubines. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by freediver on Feb 25th, 2026 at 9:11pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:57pm:
How will it ensure accountability? Won't it make the PM unaccountable? How would it provide stability in the case where a PM became unstable and the voting public, as well as their elected representatives, wanted to get rid of the PM to ensure stability? Or when you say "ensure stability" did you mean job security for the elected PM, rather than recourse for a dissatisfied electorate? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 25th, 2026 at 9:13pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:50pm:
Who would you nominate for HOS? :-/ |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 25th, 2026 at 9:28pm
By right. If Lefties want a 'more australian' politically leader.
Then it would have to be an Aborigine everytime under the Left's obsession with all things Aboriginal empowerment in EVERYTHING. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2026 at 9:42pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 9:13pm:
Whoever was the Governor General at the time. Or, a former Governor General. Retired High Court judges. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 25th, 2026 at 9:44pm
Oz Republicans: crying about the British frying pan and jumping into the USA fire.
...now shouldn't all anti-Monarchists still work on the Kings Birthday public holiday? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 26th, 2026 at 3:09am Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:11pm:
Clause 3 was completed in 1900 by Q Victoria. It can't be repeated. Clause 2 is saying she has successors. They don't do clause 3 as it's completed. You abuse everyone as a cover for your disability. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:43am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 9:42pm:
It doesn't really matter in the long run. All they do is rubber stamp legislation - when have they ever said - no - I can't agree with that legislation? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 26th, 2026 at 7:21am
Since the monarch started the Commonwealth in 1900, it has had no power in Oz. The constitution gives it to the Gov Gen and all the people of the 1975 Whitlam sacking were Oz. The Q had no say then and kings can't do anything in the future.
It's only a sentimental issue as the monarch can only wave his hand as a Pom and the top Australian, within Oz and not representing Oz overseas. It's like a giant-face balloon, it looks enormous but is totally empty. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 26th, 2026 at 7:26am chimera wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 7:21am:
Monarchy has no real power even in Europe - if they did the German and English Monarchy could have stopped WW1. The German Monarchy could have told the German army to stop attacking France and the English Monarchy could have told the POMs to stay out of the war. They are all useless figureheads sucking money out of the common people. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 26th, 2026 at 7:38am
Kaiser Wilhelm was almost the dictator who arranged WWI. That makes him parallel to Mr Adolf. So monarchy is neither better nor worse as government. For that reason, the British king is on a tight dog-lead who stays at heel and never changes. In Oz, he is muzzled, chained and dragged along.
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 26th, 2026 at 8:42am chimera wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 7:38am:
Kaiser Wilhelm was an idiot. There was no valid reason for Germany to attack France in WW1. France had a treaty with Russia but they didn't act on it. The fact is that the British monarchy should have spoken to him and convinced him to stop the crazy war - after all they were all Royals of the same bloodlines. Queen Liz was a hun born out of that generation. Royalty really let the whole world down with their incompetence which led to over 20 million deaths. It's time they were thrown into the dustbin of history. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 26th, 2026 at 8:53am
Have you changed British history of the Civil War of 1651? The monarch is ruled by parliament.
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 26th, 2026 at 9:01am chimera wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 8:53am:
The King is in charge of the armed forces: e.g. the Royal air force - RAF. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 26th, 2026 at 9:31am
No he's not. He's a walking uniform which can't give orders.
'The last English king to fight in battle was George II at the Battle of Dettingen on June 27, 1743, during the War of the Austrian Succession.' The Gov Gen gives 'Royal assent' to Bills which means obeying whatever Albanese orders her to do. Albanese is from Italy where Umberto II, born in 1904, was the last King of Italy, from May 9 to June 12, 1946. Albo is now king in Oz. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 26th, 2026 at 9:52am Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:43am:
So, who would you nominate for HOS? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 26th, 2026 at 10:22am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 8:50pm:
What power and control do you think the sovereign has over Australia and its people? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 26th, 2026 at 10:30am Frank wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 10:22am:
I think you just scored an own goal. If you believe it's none, then why do we need a sovereign? Why not remove King Charles and make the Governor General our official Head of State? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 26th, 2026 at 10:36am Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:26pm:
You think power to create Australia still exists? Why? Are you born each New Year? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by tallowood on Feb 26th, 2026 at 11:59am Quote:
Waste of time and money, typical Greens. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by freediver on Feb 26th, 2026 at 12:03pm freediver wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 9:11pm:
Greg? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 26th, 2026 at 2:02pm chimera wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 9:31am:
Nonsense - In 2012, to mark the Queen's Golden Jubilee, the now King Charles was promoted to the highest honorary rank in all three services: Admiral of the Fleet, Field Marshal, and Marshal of the Royal Air Force. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 26th, 2026 at 3:51pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 2:02pm:
honorary Honoray head of state. He does nothin' |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by lee on Feb 26th, 2026 at 3:55pm
Should this Australian citizen be native born or imported. ::)
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 26th, 2026 at 3:57pm
Aboriginal. always was.
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:00pm lee wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 3:55pm:
Wouldn't matter. As long as they are Australian citizens and they live here. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:02pm
Choose from wood or self-inking rubber stamps and personalise your Chinese Calligraphy .
https://www.zazzle.com.au/chinese+calligraphy+rubber+stamps?srsltid=AfmBOooRcI4jLHEKxD4XXWCmzZHzQhdS2yTP_7Im149ZmNBl6bBpviCJ |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:09pm chimera wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 3:51pm:
He has the title - he can use it - he's the big banana. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:16pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:09pm:
We've got our own big banana - we don't need a foreign one living on the other side of the planet. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:24pm
Pecca,
Charles is the big banana here too - he can sack the Prime Minister if he wants to. Kerr |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by lee on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:24pm
Ah so a foreign born rent-a-person, nationalised, would do. No checks on background allowed?
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:27pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:24pm:
So, you wanna keep him? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by freediver on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:29pm freediver wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 12:03pm:
Greg why do you insist their proposal is a better system if you cannot even explain the point of it? Why is the Australian Republican Movement even promoting a change that has absolutely nothing to do with being a republic and would destroy one of the best features of our democracy? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:30pm freediver wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:29pm:
Which is? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:31pm whiteknight wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:50am:
If Mehreen doesn't like it she can go back to Pakistan Greens represent less than 10% of Australians it's the unemployed loonie fringe voters |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:33pm lee wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:24pm:
The likely candidates would be the Governor General at the time of the change, retired Governors General or retired High Court judges. I'm not sure how many of those were born overseas. And, I'm pretty certain they've all had background checks. I assume you'd prefer an Australian-born citizen. Can I ask why? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by freediver on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:33pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:30pm:
The distribution of power. No single individual holds too much power. Our Prime Minister, supposedly the most powerful person in the country, could literally go insane and our system would cope quite easily. It could self-fix faster than a media cycle. Can you explain the point of putting the PM position into the constitution? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:41pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:09pm:
'While Queen Victoria signed the Act in 1900, the key British minister responsible for guiding the legislation through the British Parliament was Joseph Chamberlain, the Secretary of State for the Colonies.' Q Elizabeth sat down and signed away her grand title because the Oz PM ordered her to do it, and stood over her to make sure she got it right. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:45pm chimera wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:41pm:
Listen mate - study history - John Kerr. The King can sack our PM. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:51pm
The monarch has a couple of reserve powers which are negative, not active policy. He is bound to call elections if the parliament is locked. The vote is popular and the king has to obey their directions.
The royals have stylish uniforms and none can fly a jet, aim a tank gun or control a sub. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Feb 26th, 2026 at 5:54pm chimera wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:51pm:
The King can probably still fly a jet fighter, helicopters and other aircraft, his licence to do so could have lapsed due to his age, but he probably still has the skills; ditto as a Navigator and a Ship’s Captain. He also qualified as a Commando. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:05pm
As the Greens and other Republicans in our various Parliaments have sworn allegiance to the Monarch, then when they actively engage in public speech against the Monarch then they no longer adhere to their Oath of Allegiance and should immediately resign from Parliament.
To not do so is tantamount to perjury. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:30pm Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:05pm:
Which would mean that Australia could never become a Republic. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:34pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:45pm:
Do you think that's a good arrangement, Bobby? A foreigner, born into the position, living on the other side of the world, making those sorts of decisions? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:35pm Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 5:54pm:
1971. Probably not the current 5th gen fighters. He certainly has no warrant to command a flight op. The Earl Mountbatten of Burma had such ability but was not in the role of monarch / prince of the throne. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:39pm Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:05pm:
' true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, according to law'. Parliament is the law which binds the monarch. While in power, he receives parliament's votes including by Greens who are part of the royal assent process. Speaking is not refusal to comply. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:42pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:34pm:
Not really - but sometimes I wish he would kick out Albo for mismanaging our finances. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:45pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:42pm:
Sure. So let's get rid of Charles, make the Governor General our Head of State, and give them the power to do that. Yeah? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:49pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:45pm:
What - make an unelected person our head of State? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:50pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:49pm:
When was Charles elected? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:57pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:50pm:
He was selected by God. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 26th, 2026 at 7:05pm
Charles does nothing, it was Kerr or the present GG who sacks Albanese, who voted for the GG who sacks Alabanese who vote..
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Feb 27th, 2026 at 9:50am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:30pm:
Possibly, but are you in favour of perjury and perjurers? Should people who perjure themselves to get into Parliament be allowed to stay there? We recently had MsP removed from Parliament because of Dual Citizenship, which in some cases was unknown to the offender at the time of taking the Oath, such cannot be said of Republicans who deliberately break the law. So why are these criminals not prosecuted? Are you in favour of criminals being allowed to govern Australia? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 27th, 2026 at 9:52am Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 9:50am:
They're not breaking the law. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Feb 27th, 2026 at 9:53am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 6:50pm:
He wasn’t elected, but then unlike our Republican MsP he didn’t commit perjury to get his position. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Feb 27th, 2026 at 10:00am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 9:52am:
They swore allegiance to the Monarchy, to do so is a requirement to sit in Parliament. They espoused an Australian Republic when they did so, so it was a false oath and doing that is perjury. Perjury is a crime, people who commit crimes are criminals. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 27th, 2026 at 10:06am Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 10:00am:
Perjury is a criminal offence that involves knowingly making a false statement while under oath in a judicial proceeding (such as in a court or a formal commission of inquiry). The Oath is Not Evidence: The oath taken by politicians upon entering parliament is a "promissory" oath, not an "assertory" oath (testimony about a past or present fact). Promissory oaths relate to future conduct, whereas perjury relates to lying about facts. Voluntary Act: Taking the oath is a condition of sitting in Parliament, not a sworn statement that one's personal political views will never change. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 27th, 2026 at 10:41am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 10:06am:
A very stupid (as to be expected from you) interjection. Oath is not just a judicial proceeding. Perjury means false oath. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 27th, 2026 at 10:46am Frank wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 10:41am:
We are talking about the legal definition. (1) Any person who in or in connection with any judicial proceeding makes any false statement on oath concerning any matter which is material to the proceeding, knowing the statement to be false or not believing it to be true, is guilty of perjury and liable to imprisonment for 10 years. Under federal law, perjury is governed by Section 35 of the Crimes Act 1914. CRIMES ACT 1914 - SECT 35 Giving false testimony (1) A person commits an offence if: (a) the person gives false testimony touching a matter; and (b) the person does so: (i) in a judicial proceeding; or (ii) with the intention of instituting a judicial proceeding; and (c) the matter is material in the judicial proceeding; and (d) the judicial proceeding is a federal judicial proceeding. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 27th, 2026 at 10:52am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 10:46am:
Under federal law, perjury is governed by Section 35 of the Crimes Act 1914. CRIMES ACT 1914 - SECT 35 Giving false testimony (1) A person commits an offence if: (a) the person gives false testimony touching a matter; and (b) the person does so: (i) in a judicial proceeding; or (ii) with the intention of instituting a judicial proceeding; and (c) the matter is material in the judicial proceeding; and (d) the judicial proceeding is a federal judicial proceeding. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 27th, 2026 at 11:36am
Not all oaths are judicial oaths just becauae some are.
An oath of allegiance, a citiznship oath, an oath of office, a military oath - these are not judicial proceedig. Perjury is a false oath. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Feb 27th, 2026 at 12:10pm Frank wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 11:36am:
Amen to that. Politicians elected to Parliament are required to swear allegiance by the Constitution, the Constitution is Law, therefore when they knowingly swear falsely they break the law and, figuratively, spit in the face of all Australians. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 27th, 2026 at 12:14pm
I think the argument for a Republic doesn't even make first base for starters when the excuse is based upon Anti-Monarchy (United Kingdom) and Old World Irish grudge, rather than the Politics of Great Britain.
I think Celebrities and Media should stay out of Politics and just fund Ramsey Street as their own Royal Palace |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 27th, 2026 at 12:41pm Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 10:00am:
You want personal loyalty in the manner of Adolf Hitler's troops? Parliament is forbidden to speak about it? An actual rebellion was organised in 1999 as a referendum to remove the monarch. The loyal PM was Mr J Howard (Lib. Russia) ..and, figuratively, spit in the face of all Australians... |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by tallowood on Feb 27th, 2026 at 12:50pm
Screw the green Caliphate ;D
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 27th, 2026 at 12:57pm
The Constitution states that 'the provisions of this Act referring to the Queen shall extend to Her Majesty's heirs and successors in the sovereignty of the United Kingdom.'
In 1973, the Royal Titles Act removed that and said the monarch is 'Queen / king of Australia'. The British monarch is dead to Australia and UK is now a foreign country. The parliament spoke, voted and sent the Bill to the Queen's Gov Gen. who joined the rebellion. A bit late now to start the true faith of loyal servants who die for the emperor, Victoria, empire and St George. 'In Delhi’s Coronation Park on January 1, 1877, the British monarch Queen Victoria (1837-1901) assumed a new title: Qaisar-i Hind, the Empress of India'. Qaisar is Hindi for 'Caesar'. Caesar of India, by George. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 27th, 2026 at 1:21pm Jasin wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 12:14pm:
But England is not the place of high standards as it once was. Royalty now is a farce. None of them come anywhere near Queen Lizzy. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 27th, 2026 at 1:36pm Jasin wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 12:14pm:
The king doesn't do politics, Jasin. He does king (or what's left of it after Whitlam, Hawke and Howard). |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Feb 27th, 2026 at 3:21pm chimera wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 12:57pm:
But not too late to expect MsP to not lie to the Parliament and People of Australia by swearing an Oath of Allegiance to the King of Australia that they know to be false. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 27th, 2026 at 3:41pm
Why? It's been policy for years.
'Statute of Westminster 1931 gave effect to the 1926 declaration, removing the right of the British Parliament to legislate forAustralia without its consent and was adopted in Australia 1942.' So UK blocked the monarch's Acts from being obeyed and Oz did the same. Mutiny. 'The 1947 Independence Act for India was passed by the UK Parliament on July 18, 1947. Churchill objected to the name “Independence Bill,” insisting it was only Dominion Status. Clement Attlee refused to change it, respecting India's aspirations. Lord Mountbatten, the last Viceroy of India, was sent to transfer power, but accelerated the timeline to August 1947 from June 1948 to avoid a potential civil war. George VI was the last Emperor of India from 1936 until the British Raj was dissolved in August 1947.' UK Parliament destroyed the imperial monarchy. Howard's parliament plotted to allow the end of the monarchy in 1999. Allegiance is to the king as he is directed by parliament, 'by law'. That authorises parliament to discuss anything about the king such as removal. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 27th, 2026 at 3:58pm
Again. Royalty is NOT political.
So why is it used by Australian Republicans as an excuse for a political change? Because Republicans are not truly political themselves. They're just Media celebrities and personalities that filter down from American Media for starters that is threatened by the fact that Australia didn't need a War of Independence against Britain, to exist as a successful country. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 27th, 2026 at 4:07pm
As you can read, they're not for political change. The PM system will remain, they say. The head is non-political. simples
It's why the British-appointed Gov Gen and state governors were changed to Oz-appointed. It's why 'King of GB' became 'king of Oz'. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 27th, 2026 at 4:29pm Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 12:10pm:
No, they quite simply do not break the law. However, if you truly believe that to be true, can you reference the relevant Act, and specific Section, which they allegedly could be charged under? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 27th, 2026 at 4:42pm This explains it very well. "A future president would, after a successful referendum, be the lawful successor to the king who is referred to in the coronation oath." Those who have criticised Anthony Albanese for his plan to swear allegiance to King Charles are dead wrong. The Prime Minister and every other republican can confidently recite this oath without fear of hypocrisy. And the reason is this: the coronation oath is conditional. That condition is contained in its last four words. It might look like Albanese will simply swear allegiance to Charles and his heirs. But the real significance is that the oath does not finish there. If it did, it would amount to an unending pledge of fealty to the senior member of the house of Windsor. The most important part of the oath is that it requires Albanese to swear allegiance to the King’s “successors according to law”. And that might not be Prince William. Australia makes its own laws. So the coronation oath amounts to recognition that Charles holds office as king of Australia not because of divine right, but because the law of Australia says so. So if this country decides to become a republic, Albanese and all other republicans who take the coronation oath this weekend could consistently swear allegiance to a future Australian republic. This would be due to the fact that a successful referendum would mean that this country’s first president would become the successor to King Charles “according to law”. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 27th, 2026 at 4:44pm
In the event of a referendum which alters the constitution and removes the monarch, the decisions are all done legally under the monarch. The Bill is sent to the king's GG who signs that the monarchy is finished. Charles polishes his crown and the Oz section is removed (unless he rebels and won't obey parliament, which is unlikely at his age).
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 27th, 2026 at 4:47pm chimera wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 4:44pm:
"A future president would, after a successful referendum, be the lawful successor to the king who is referred to in the coronation oath." |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by lee on Feb 27th, 2026 at 4:54pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26th, 2026 at 4:33pm:
Ah, likely candidates. ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 27th, 2026 at 5:44pm chimera wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 4:07pm:
It is a political change. A Republic is a political concept. Entertainers like Royalties to Court Jesters should just stick to their own sh#t. If Australian Media celebrities wanna change - then create a OzVision contest and don't invite King Charles as guest. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 27th, 2026 at 5:45pm
There could be a photo of ex-king and new head together with knives well out of sight. New guy says 'call me The Bloke'.
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 27th, 2026 at 5:46pm chimera wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 4:44pm:
Even if we have a Political change in regards to our association with BRITISH politics. We would still need an Institution of Master of Ceremony and an INDEPENDENT format of EVERY OTHER INDUSTRY to be represented. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 27th, 2026 at 5:47pm Jasin wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 5:44pm:
Not in the Oz setting. The GG and king made not one policy in 126 years. It's only the accent : pom or strine. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 27th, 2026 at 5:50pm Jasin wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 5:46pm:
Australian : ceremony. yer jokin' The British landlords own the hardware do they? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 27th, 2026 at 5:51pm
I don't think f#ckwit celebrities like Keaneally, Brown & Fitzsimmons realise the CONCEPT OF INDEPENDENCE.
You become independent with one thing, you become independent with everything else and you stand alone from any ties ASSOCIATED with all other Regions. That's a lot of work and change. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 27th, 2026 at 5:53pm chimera wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 5:50pm:
Yes they do. Sacred Politics... as handed down from the Middle-East. Rome/Athens are only the 'euro' original, not global. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 27th, 2026 at 6:41pm Jasin wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 5:53pm:
Do you have any idea of what you are talking about? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 27th, 2026 at 6:56pm
Yeah. A politician telling a musician to mind his own business.
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 27th, 2026 at 7:06pm
Royals are not Political Britain but are political Australia and need to be conserved. Jasin and musicians are against royals but Jasin isn't and musicians shouldn't. Jasin is Anijs Nisaj Isnja.
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Feb 27th, 2026 at 7:20pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 4:42pm:
What may happen in the future doesn’t alter the fact that MsP swear allegiance to the current Monarch and if they do not then they don’t get paid, so Republicans falsely swear allegiance, and thus perjure themselves, for the money. It’s a matter of principal not principle. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 27th, 2026 at 7:27pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 4:42pm:
Reading on: The real danger for a future republic is that the Albanese government might view the voice referendum as a precedent and adopt the same high-handed methods that have failed spectacularly to build national consensus. Will we, for example, see a constitutional convention on the republic confined to republicans just as the Uluru “convention” excluded the broader community and was confined to Indigenous people? Will the government unveil its model for a republican form of government without consultation with the broader community, just as Albanese unveiled his proposed constitutional provision for the voice without consultation with the broader community? Will the government design its model for a republic without advice from the Solicitor-General? Will the government seek genuine national consensus on the shift to a republic or will it replicate the current tactic in which those with concerns about constitutional change have been depicted as racists? Will it hand control of the republic referendum to the Australian Republic Movement, just as it has handed control of the voice referendum to Indigenous activists? These are the real threats to Australian republicanism. You always leave out the pretinent bit. Honesty would simply kill you. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 27th, 2026 at 7:27pm
Eoin
You are not still under military discipline as a civilian. MPs aren't under military law. The King is under their authority. Ask Charles I. Quod rex non debet esse sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 27th, 2026 at 7:35pm Frank wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 7:27pm:
Q.s about the voting process are not the same as facts of law. And q.s are less pertinent. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 27th, 2026 at 7:42pm Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 7:20pm:
Ah. It's principal now. So you agree, they aren't breaking the law. Glad we finally got there. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Frank on Feb 27th, 2026 at 7:50pm chimera wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 7:35pm:
Not at all. You cannot separate republicanism from its voting/selection process. They are the same thing. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 27th, 2026 at 7:58pm
I have.
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Feb 27th, 2026 at 8:09pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 7:42pm:
I think that you should look up the definition of ‘principal’. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 27th, 2026 at 8:30pm Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 8:09pm:
I think you should answer this question: If you truly believe they've broken the law, can you reference the relevant Act, and specific Section, which they allegedly could be charged under? What's the charge and what's the penalty? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 27th, 2026 at 8:33pm
"Please America. Save us from the evil British. All we did was steal a loaf of bread." said the mass murderer.
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 28th, 2026 at 7:02am Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 8:09pm:
The constitution implies free speech by having elections. 'This Constitution shall not be altered except in the following manner: The proposed law for the alteration thereof must be passed by an absolute majority of each House of the Parliament, ..etc ' The allegiance is in the constitution which directs how to alter itself. Removing the monarch needs a 'proposed law' such as the Greens comments. (Are you Russian?) |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 28th, 2026 at 2:09pm I am royalty - the famous Robert the Bruce is an ancestor of mine. Robert I, popularly known as Robert the Bruce, was King of Scots from 1306 until his death in 1329. Robert led Scotland during the First War of Scottish Independence against England. He fought successfully during his reign to restore Scotland to an independent kingdom and is regarded in Scotland as a national hero. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 28th, 2026 at 2:36pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 28th, 2026 at 2:09pm:
With a generation of 25 years and 2 living descendants, the maths gets ridiculously large in 7 centuries. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 28th, 2026 at 2:47pm chimera wrote on Feb 28th, 2026 at 2:36pm:
I still have a certain percentage of Royal blood - I should get more respect. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 28th, 2026 at 3:00pm
The inverse of the 2 ^28 is ridiculously small.
The same maths is for every dynasty in every country, including Egypt's kings from 5000 years ago. 'Due to the exponential growth of family trees, most people with European ancestry are likely descended from various European monarchs.' Bruce's line is around 4 times the UK population so people there have probably 3 of his family as ancestors if 1/4 poms migrated. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 28th, 2026 at 3:11pm chimera wrote on Feb 28th, 2026 at 3:00pm:
But I can feel it in myself - I often feel so superior to other people - the common people. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 28th, 2026 at 3:20pm
It's the Trump effect, it's very common.
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:04pm
The higher the cultural privilege
The lower the racial success. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:05pm chimera wrote on Feb 28th, 2026 at 3:20pm:
I also have a need to serve the common people - I like to help people - it must be my Royalty. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:12pm
Royal bloods are inbred.
Is there something you're not telling us Bobby? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:15pm Jasin wrote on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:12pm:
No - it's only a mild case of Royalty - long ago. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:15pm
As everyone has 3 royals in the family, you'll need to call each other Majesty. (if not, there's Kaiser, Pharaoh or Wang for Chinese).
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:26pm chimera wrote on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:15pm:
Chimera - are you Royalty? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:34pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2026 at 8:30pm:
Try the Australian Constitution and the penalty is that they can be expelled from Parliament for lying to the Parliament. How can we ever trust MsP who perjure themselves for money? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:37pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:26pm:
Yes. Chimera was the symbol of Cimmerians who fought Greeks in 7th Century BC. The Chimera of Arezzo, Italy, dating to roughly 400 BC is a bronze sculpture depicting the mythical fire-breathing monster from Greek legend. It became the Beaufort Yale goat with lion tail on the roof of Windsor Castle as a Royal beast. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Jasin on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:43pm
This whole topic is as silly as : we want to cut ties with UK Sport, let's have a political change ::)
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:44pm chimera wrote on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:37pm:
Wow - do you feel a need to serve the common people? |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Bobby. on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:45pm Jasin wrote on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:43pm:
You can't just ignore Royal blood - we are here to serve you. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:45pm Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:34pm:
The Parliamentary Privileges Act 1987 allows the House of Representatives or the Senate to impose penalties for contempt, which includes knowingly giving false or misleading evidence to a committee. There is a fine. Where does it say members can be expelled? The allegiance is to the head as created by the UK parliament and as defined by Oz parliament. An MP is doing their job if they raise the issue of monarchy and removal. King obeys them, not they obey king. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 28th, 2026 at 5:00pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 28th, 2026 at 4:45pm:
Here are chimeras of Scotland. https://aroyalheraldry.weebly.com/blog/the-royal-arms-of-scotland |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Feb 28th, 2026 at 5:42pm chimera wrote on Feb 28th, 2026 at 2:36pm:
And much fun, ‘’ King of Aragon King of Denmark King of Docia King of England (16) King of France (6) King of Italy King of Ossory King of Russia King of Scotland King of Scots King of Spain King of the Danes King of the Picts King of the United Kingdom’’ There’s 34 Kings from the index of persons on my family tree, there are others who are named scattered. Have numerous Dukes and lessor nobility. Among the greats are Brian Boru of Ireland and William I ‘’The Conqueror’’. There are also Saints and Scholars, Regicides, fratricides, patricides, matricides and common murderers and outnumbering those are a few thousand decent people. All in all I’ve 3,687 recorded ancestors. |
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Title: Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Post by chimera on Feb 28th, 2026 at 6:24pm
A king in Australia who has no function in the constitution, no home in his kingdom and no royal estate is almost not a king.
No royal ever had a house in Oz. |
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