The votes have been counted and Susso is now on her way to buy more investment properties on the Gold Coast but now she has to pay for her own accommodation, travel and food rather then stealing from the Australian taxpayers.

“Fantastic. Great move. Well done Angus.”

“ Angus Taylor

The very few LNP supporters left will pause their move to One Nation and give Angus a chance.

Something had to be done . Duddo  & Susso was and is a complete disaster and failure of leadership for the LNP.

This is not about Angus leading the LNP to victory anytime in the next decade.

This is all about shoring up votes and the commonwealth system of paying each party $$ for each vote they receive.

The LNP is not financial in a good position.

As headlines talk up One Nation donors $$ will shift to Pauline.

I sincerely doubt Malcom Turnbull is going to fund another LNP election so they are desperate to shore up the election $ for each vote.

Angus job is. To find away too stop the LNP bleeding money.

Without coin they will become extinct.

The party that calls itself the financial managers are very close to being broke.

Tall brunette Taylor and little raven haired Littleproud. Australia's version of Planet America.

Well, we will see in just one month if they have any policies, agendas, goals and of course - politics. To convince the public that they aren't just there to look pretty for the Media cameras.

My bet is that all political parties are now fake. Nothing but Media show ponies pretending to be politicians. I bet that even after 1 month, the Coalition will have nothing to show for it like an episode of Blankety Blanks.

Don’t be so bleak J.

They have to try and stop the flow of money from lack of votes to one nation just for the $ sake.

I personally don’t believe any company is going to donate money to a party that will be slightly on the same level as the greens.

If One Nation does become the opposition all the coin will flow to them.

Angus has one job.

Stop the self destruction of the LNP and focus on finding $$$ for the next election.

Clearly the LNP is now in a desperate battle to come second.

I hope they win it personally

It shouldn't be about him saving the NLP Dave.
It should be about him saving Australia.
The moment Keating stabbed Hawke. I knew Federal politics was on its way to failure.
Keating v Hawke
Gillard v Rudd v Gillard
Turnbull v Abbott
Taylor v Ley

ABC 24 news just now.

Angus Taylor wins leadership vote 34 to 17.

Can he lead the Libbos to victory?

By 2028 people will have had a gutful of Albo.

The horrible thing is Bobby.
They had a fitful of Anus well before the next Election.

But what do they do when the ALP advertised their lies campaign
And the NLP with Spud, just didn't offer much up from their part❓

Let's face it. People are desperate for good option, they'll vote in a poor one like Pauline Hanson just for something different.

Jasin wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 8:45am:

The horrible thing is Bobby. They had a fitful of Anus well before the next Election. But what do they do when the ALP advertised their lies campaign And the NLP with Spud, just didn't offer much up from their part❓ Let's face it. People are desperate for good option, they'll vote in a poor one like Pauline Hanson just for something different.

A drovers dog could beat Albo.


Jane Hume is elected deputy.

It's curious that US, UK and Oz have dud leaders al round. Hope the AUKUS boats don't get leaky but not confident.

But there are so many Lefty TV Media addicted voters out there, especially old school who still miss Don Lane Shows. They don't trust the Internet and they'll vote on whoever the Media favours, like the ALP.

The NLP are never going to get favour with the Media, especially when the ALP have them $450m for their YES campaign.

The NLP need to do a Trump and get the Internet to be their weapon of choice to get voters.

It's that or the NLP have capitulated into Leftism too.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 8:49am:

Jasin wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 8:45am: The horrible thing is Bobby. They had a fitful of Anus well before the next Election. But what do they do when the ALP advertised their lies campaign And the NLP with Spud, just didn't offer much up from their part❓ Let's face it. People are desperate for good option, they'll vote in a poor one like Pauline Hanson just for something different. A drovers dog could beat Albo. Jane Hume is elected deputy.

Jane who?   :-/

Ley had to go. She was ineffectual against Albanese, despite his obvious incompetence. She also presided over two breaks with the Nationals - a first that I know of. I think that Albo will have his hands full against Taylor at the next election.

Jane Hume. Relegated by Nigerian born, UAE educated Sussan Ley because she was too much of a threat, like Jacinta Price and a few others that would make her look incompetent and the ALP look like female sexists.

Angus Taylor is the new leader of the Liberal Party. Who is he? ::) ::)

So it's now tall Blue Brunette Taylor and little Grey Raven Littleproud Confederacy

V

Small fat Blue Brunette Albanese, who wishes tall Grey Raven Keating was by his side like Lefty Yankism Unionism.

Anus will need to phone a friend.

Talk about over-the-top.

A special ABC News 24 blow by blow coverage of the Liberal party leadership vote.   ::)

Well done to Susssssan for quitting politics in the next few weeks, forcing a byelection in Farrer.

I really hope the Libs lose that one.   ;D

Why has Sussan resigned?

She will now cost us a bi-election.

Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 9:55am:

Talk about over-the-top. A special ABC News 24 blow by blow coverage of the Liberal party leadership vote.   ::) Well done to Susssssan for quitting politics in the next few weeks, forcing a byelection in Farrer. I really hope the Libs lose that one.   ;D

Really - she's thrown in the towel?

Her heart was never in it then.

Good riddance.

She should be charged for the cost of the by-election.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 10:02am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 9:55am: Talk about over-the-top. A special ABC News 24 blow by blow coverage of the Liberal party leadership vote.   ::) Well done to Susssssan for quitting politics in the next few weeks, forcing a byelection in Farrer. I really hope the Libs lose that one.   ;D Really - she's thrown in the towel? Her heart was never in it then. Good riddance. She should be charged for the cost of the by-election.

She is 62, been in Parliament for 25 years.

I reckon this is a great smack in the face for Angus who is likely to see that seat lost.  ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 10:02am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 9:55am: Talk about over-the-top. A special ABC News 24 blow by blow coverage of the Liberal party leadership vote.   ::) Well done to Susssssan for quitting politics in the next few weeks, forcing a byelection in Farrer. I really hope the Libs lose that one.   ;D Really - she's thrown in the towel? Her heart was never in it then. Good riddance. She should be charged for the cost of the by-election.

She's quit politics because she lost the job of Leader of the Opposition after being forced out by her own party because she was not effective in that role. I realise she has given 25 years to her electorate, which is commendable, but it shows a lack of strength that she has quit politics altogether just because she got replaced. Doesn't demonstrate much in the way of personal toughness if you ask me. In any case, I wish her the best in the future. It can't be easy being in politics for 25 years and the time away from family and being in the public eye all that time.

Any LNP member who is tempted to join One Nation should be strongly encouraged to do so. They are the ones destroying the Liberals' chance of getting elected. It's the Teals they have to worry about. Elections are won in the centre, not the far right.

If the Libs lose Farrer, then they are down to only 5 females in the Reps.

If the Libs lose Farrer, (especially if it goes to One Nation) it is worth every penny of the cost of a byelection.  ;)

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 10:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 10:02am: Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 9:55am: Talk about over-the-top. A special ABC News 24 blow by blow coverage of the Liberal party leadership vote.   ::) Well done to Susssssan for quitting politics in the next few weeks, forcing a byelection in Farrer. I really hope the Libs lose that one.   ;D Really - she's thrown in the towel? Her heart was never in it then. Good riddance. She should be charged for the cost of the by-election. She's quit politics because she lost the job of Leader of the Opposition after being forced out by her own party because she was not effective in that role. I realise she has given 25 years to her electorate, which is commendable, but it shows a lack of strength that she has quit politics altogether just because she got replaced. Doesn't demonstrate much in the way of personal toughness if you ask me. In any case, I wish her the best in the future. It can't be easy being in politics for 25 years and the time away from family and being in the public eye all that time.

it's just another mens club.
Susan was good.

Well - we all know the policy directions most needed:-

Cut back mass immigration
Fix the housing market and make of it a family homing market again (chop the benefits and preference for investors)
Fix cost of living for real
A reliable future for Australia again (I bring you the GAIAs again)
Fix the cruel and unworkable and grossly unfair superannuation system
Stop the war against men - cease preference for women over and over in every sphere = level playing  field
Create full employment again and not the farcical part-time casual (remember the monkey on Abbott's back)
Break up the imbalances in work conditions with some getting the comfy ride over and over (you know who)
Fix real discrimination, prejudice and disadvantage (you know who again)
Crack down on hard-liners intent on social disruption and disintegration
Sort out all the idiot commissions that deliberately work for certain small groups against the rest
Appoint REAL people to do jobs - not old party campaigners or those who look good as DEIs
FIX the appointmnt of heads of departments etc, so that it is NOT old party campaigners (Hitler Appointments of old mates on the barricades), but people who can actually do the job
Change citizenship requirements so that a person must be a good citizen for an extended period before becoming a citizen
Control allocation of funds for NDIS, Aged Care, Abocare, Childcare etc more carefully and follow up those in the ghettos (including the Abo ones) who raise red flags to avoid rorting (we're not here to provide a free living to all the new immigros and Abo African Kings as a handout without proper checks - that HAS to be a policy)
Fairer treatment for the Tent City Slickers - a bill of rights


There'll be more - just add as you see fit.

Great work shifting the deck chairs around on the Titanic.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 11:07am:

Well - we all know the policy directions most needed:- Cut back mass immigration Fix the housing market and make of it a family homing market again (chop the benefits and preference for investors) Fix cost of living for real A reliable future for Australia again (I bring you the GAIAs again) Fix the cruel and unworkable and grossly unfair superannuation system Stop the war against men - cease preference for women over and over in every sphere = level playing  field Create full employment again and not the farcical part-time casual (remember the monkey on Abbott's back) Break up the imbalances in work conditions with some getting the comfy ride over and over (you know who) Fix real discrimination, prejudice and disadvantage (you know who again) Crack down on hard-liners intent on social disruption and disintegration Sort out all the idiot commissions that deliberately work for certain small groups against the rest Appoint REAL people to do jobs - not old party campaigners or those who look good as DEIs FIX the appointmnt of heads of departments etc, so that it is NOT old party campaigners (Hitler Appointments of old mates on the barricades), but people who can actually do the job Change citizenship requirements so that a person must be a good citizen for an extended period before becoming a citizen Control allocation of funds for NDIS, Aged Care, Abocare, Childcare etc more carefully and follow up those in the ghettos (including the Abo ones) who raise red flags to avoid rorting (we're not here to provide a free living to all the new immigros and Abo African Kings as a handout without proper checks - that HAS to be a policy) Fairer treatment for the Tent City Slickers - a bill of rights There'll be more - just add as you see fit.

Most of the things you're demanding they "fix", minus the outright racist ones, are the direct and predictable outcomes of their own platform over the years.

And now you want to hand them the keys again and trust them to clean up the mess they created?

Good luck with that.

When they're back in power, assuming you're still around to see it, I'm curious what excuse you'll roll out when housing becomes even less affordable, the health system is quietly hollowed out, and Medicare is further undermined or dismantled altogether.

It's the same tired cycle, rinse and repeat, except this time they're not even pretending to distance themselves from mining and fossil fuel interests. There are too few of them left to bother with the facade.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 11:10am:

Great work shifting the deck chairs around on the Titanic.

Now that was a perfect deck chair shift... you try hard ...

Anyway - I forgot to add they need to push for reliable power etc as well.

You see - it does't matter what they did in the past - in your eyes - what matters is what they are going to do for the future.

Smart people wait for that ..... instead of just being negative all the time...

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 11:17am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 11:10am: Great work shifting the deck chairs around on the Titanic. Now that was a perfect deck chair shift... you try hard ... Anyway - I forgot to add they need to push for reliable power etc as well. You see - it does't matter what they did in the past - in your eyes - what matters is what they are going to do for the future. Smart people wait for that ..... instead of just being negative all the time...

They need to earn trust before they're entitled to it.

At least Labor are actually delivering on the platform people voted for.

That's a far cry from standing on the eve of an election and solemnly swearing "no cuts to education, no cuts to health, no changes to pensions, no changes to the GST, and no cuts to the ABC or SBS", winning office, and then doing every single one of those things anyway.

When a party can't even maintain consistency in opposition, let alone keep its own internal discipline, it's going to take more than recycled slogans and selective amnesia to win back the trust of people who lost it.

You've never wavered, evidence be damned, and that's your prerogative. You have just as much right to support them as anyone else.

I just hope that when the pendulum inevitably swings back, they've actually got their house in order and are prepared to honour what they put to the electorate.

If they can manage that, then at least the disagreement is genuinely political. You can argue over policy, priorities, and ideology, which is exactly what a functioning democracy requires.

But that remains a very big if.

They need conscription to support US troops in Venezuela and Greenland.

Ley leaves Taylor an immediate electoral test with Farrer by-election ;D

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 11:28am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 11:17am: ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 11:10am: Great work shifting the deck chairs around on the Titanic. Now that was a perfect deck chair shift... you try hard ... Anyway - I forgot to add they need to push for reliable power etc as well. You see - it does't matter what they did in the past - in your eyes - what matters is what they are going to do for the future. Smart people wait for that ..... instead of just being negative all the time... They need to earn trust before they're entitled to it. At least Labor are actually delivering on the platform people voted for. That's a far cry from standing on the eve of an election and solemnly swearing "no cuts to education, no cuts to health, no changes to pensions, no changes to the GST, and no cuts to the ABC or SBS", winning office, and then doing every single one of those things anyway. When a party can't even maintain consistency in opposition, let alone keep its own internal discipline, it's going to take more than recycled slogans and selective amnesia to win back the trust of people who lost it. You've never wavered, evidence be damned, and that's your prerogative. You have just as much right to support them as anyone else. I just hope that when the pendulum inevitably swings back, they've actually got their house in order and are prepared to honour what they put to the electorate. If they can manage that, then at least the disagreement is genuinely political. You can argue over policy, priorities, and ideology, which is exactly what a functioning democracy requires. But that remains a very big if.

As usual - your biggest hindrance in discussion is your assumption that others support the things they discuss - I often discuss the actualities of Nazism here and the parallels with today and weak government - but that does not mean I support Nazism.

You have that half-baked schoolyard idea of discussing issues that dictates to you that everyone must be either for or against.... clearly you do not understand discussion, but live in a world filled with confrontation.  That US or THEM silliness is what gets people mass murdered in the U.S. .... infantile extremist thinking, the best representation of which would be idiots chanting 'from the river to the sea' and advocating genocide without one single thought of the reality they are pushing ....

I don't think Taylor is the goods - let's see how it pans out in the real world first, eh?  As things stand - with Albo so weak etc, One Nation will continue to gain ground....

Let's see if you think that means I support One Nation now.... DUH ...

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 11:49am:

As usual - your biggest hindrance in discussion is your assumption that others support the things they discuss - I often discuss the actualities of Nazism here and the parallels with today and weak government - but that does not mean I support Nazism. You have that half-baked schoolyard idea of discussing issues that dictates to you that everyone must be either for or against.... clearly you do not understand discussion, but live in a world filled with confrontation.  That US or THEM silliness is what gets people mass murdered in the U.S. .... infantile extremist thinking, the best representation of which would be idiots chanting 'from the river to the sea' and advocating genocide without one single thought of the reality they are pushing .... I don't think Taylor is the goods - let's see how it pans out in the real world first, eh?  As things stand - with Albo so weak etc, One Nation will continue to gain ground.... Let's see if you think that means I support One Nation now.... DUH ...

You're arguing with something I didn't say, and defending yourself against an accusation I never made.

At no point did I claim you support the Liberals, One Nation, or any other party. What I criticised was the idea that past behaviour somehow becomes irrelevant just because a new slogan is rolled out about the future. That's not "US vs THEM" thinking, it's basic accountability.

Pointing out that trust has to be earned is not tribalism. It's the opposite. It's recognising that credibility is built on record, consistency, and follow-through, not vibes and hopeful waiting. Dismissing that as "negativity" is just a way of avoiding the substance of the argument.

Dragging in Nazism, mass murder, or genocide slogans doesn't strengthen your case, it weakens it. If a discussion about political trust immediately feels like a personal indictment, that suggests a sensitivity problem on your end.

I even explicitly said people are entitled to support whoever they like, and that genuine disagreement over policy is healthy when parties actually honour what they take to an election. That's not confrontation, that's democracy functioning as intended.

If you think Taylor is the goods, fine. If you want to wait and see how it pans out, also fine. But don't rewrite my position into some cartoonish accusation just so you can argue against it.

Criticism of political records is not a personal attack, and scepticism is not radicalism. If that distinction feels uncomfortable, that's worth reflecting on.

Sussan Ley - what happens when you are promoted to your level of incompetence just because you are a woman.

There was no other reason for her elevation.

Frank wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 12:04pm:

Sussan Ley - what happens when you are promoted to your level of incompetence just because you are a woman. There was no other reason for her elevation.

And now we have the situation where the Marrickville Mawkish, the perennial student Trot, the "I fight tories", the pwogwessive voter lisperer is the towering political giant of Australian politics.
Ludicrous.

Frank wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 12:04pm:

Sussan Ley - what happens when you are promoted to your level of incompetence just because you are a woman. There was no other reason for her elevation.

It's politics, of course there is.

She was never meant to take the party into the next election. She was a placeholder, the bench-warmer installed to absorb the flak while they tried to recover from a historic loss. That much was obvious to anyone paying attention.

Angus was always the intended end point from the remnants left behind. The timeline just got accelerated because the boys' club couldn't tolerate a woman holding the top job any longer, especially the NATs.

And your comment only reinforces the point. When you reduce her elevation to "because she's a woman", you're not analysing strategy, you're advertising your own prejudice, just like the boys' club.

The lens you view the world through is exactly as ugly as the conclusion you reached.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 11:28am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 11:17am: ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 11:10am: Great work shifting the deck chairs around on the Titanic. Now that was a perfect deck chair shift... you try hard ... Anyway - I forgot to add they need to push for reliable power etc as well. You see - it does't matter what they did in the past - in your eyes - what matters is what they are going to do for the future. Smart people wait for that ..... instead of just being negative all the time... They need to earn trust before they're entitled to it. But that remains a very big if.

Not really. They just have to wait for Labor to lose it. Labor is not exactly doing well in the polls either. And they keep doing monumentally stupid things. Like the referendum.

Frank wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 12:04pm:

Sussan Ley - what happens when you are promoted to your level of incompetence just because you are a woman. There was no other reason for her elevation.

The conservatives have been manic in their refusal to promote a woman under any circumstance, She was by far the most consistent high profile option they had. They have mearly replaced her with their next loser in line.

PIcking a woman is the last thing they would want to do, she was selected in spite of being female not because of it.

Libs have the Menzies Research Centre. They may do a deal with Pauline if she hands over to Barnaby and gets her name in Menzies-Hanson Centre.

freediver wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 12:13pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 11:28am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 11:17am: ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 11:10am: Great work shifting the deck chairs around on the Titanic. Now that was a perfect deck chair shift... you try hard ... Anyway - I forgot to add they need to push for reliable power etc as well. You see - it does't matter what they did in the past - in your eyes - what matters is what they are going to do for the future. Smart people wait for that ..... instead of just being negative all the time... They need to earn trust before they're entitled to it. But that remains a very big if. Not really. They just have to wait for Labor to lose it. Labor is not exactly doing well in the polls either. And they keep doing monumentally stupid things. Like the referendum.

Labor should have lost the last election the only reason they won was that the Liberals clearly offered nothing. They have only gone backwards since. We will see how this next in line nong goes but doesn't look promising for them. They have deep structural issues and deeper talent deficiencies. They have nothing to offer. Their problem isn't that they cannot offer a leader but thet they connot offer anything lined up behind a leader. They have a solid depth of nothing worth the effort.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 11:59am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 11:49am: As usual - your biggest hindrance in discussion is your assumption that others support the things they discuss - I often discuss the actualities of Nazism here and the parallels with today and weak government - but that does not mean I support Nazism. You have that half-baked schoolyard idea of discussing issues that dictates to you that everyone must be either for or against.... clearly you do not understand discussion, but live in a world filled with confrontation.  That US or THEM silliness is what gets people mass murdered in the U.S. .... infantile extremist thinking, the best representation of which would be idiots chanting 'from the river to the sea' and advocating genocide without one single thought of the reality they are pushing .... I don't think Taylor is the goods - let's see how it pans out in the real world first, eh?  As things stand - with Albo so weak etc, One Nation will continue to gain ground.... Let's see if you think that means I support One Nation now.... DUH ... You're arguing with something I didn't say, and defending yourself against an accusation I never made. At no point did I claim you support the Liberals, One Nation, or any other party. What I criticised was the idea that past behaviour somehow becomes irrelevant just because a new slogan is rolled out about the future. That's not "US vs THEM" thinking, it's basic accountability. Pointing out that trust has to be earned is not tribalism. It's the opposite. It's recognising that credibility is built on record, consistency, and follow-through, not vibes and hopeful waiting. Dismissing that as "negativity" is just a way of avoiding the substance of the argument. Dragging in Nazism, mass murder, or genocide slogans doesn't strengthen your case, it weakens it. If a discussion about political trust immediately feels like a personal indictment, that suggests a sensitivity problem on your end. I even explicitly said people are entitled to support whoever they like, and that genuine disagreement over policy is healthy when parties actually honour what they take to an election. That's not confrontation, that's democracy functioning as intended. If you think Taylor is the goods, fine. If you want to wait and see how it pans out, also fine. But don't rewrite my position into some cartoonish accusation just so you can argue against it. Criticism of political records is not a personal attack, and scepticism is not radicalism. If that distinction feels uncomfortable, that's worth reflecting on.

"You've never wavered, evidence be damned, and that's your prerogative. You have just as much right to support them as anyone else."

Playing weasel words now, are we?  Oh - no ... I didn't mean you are supporting them etc - I just said you had the same right as anyone else to support them .... and even though I said "You've never wavered, evidence be damned" - that doesn't mean I'm saying you support them .. it just means... oh... whatever I think it does...

Do you ever actually think anything through?  Or is it your grasp on the English language that fails you?

Schoolyard sheila.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 1:08pm:

Labor should have lost the last election the only reason they won was that the Liberals clearly offered nothing. They have only gone backwards since. We will see how this next in line nong goes but doesn't look promising for them. They have deep structural issues and deeper talent deficiencies. They have nothing to offer. Their problem isn't that they cannot offer a leader but thet they connot offer anything lined up behind a leader. They have a solid depth of nothing worth the effort.

Cooorrrect!

The same applies to all the parties if you ask me.  Labor is the worst with wet paper bag boxer Albo at the helm reaping the dollars, and a bunch of namby-pamby forced os us sheilas who think it's all sweet and easy and somehow right to be force fed on an unsuspecting and gullible public .... while Rome burns ....

They all need to go... I've posted my reasons for distrusting One Nation... straight over your heads as usual.  Many here just like to play silly buggars with themselves...

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 1:12pm:

"You've never wavered, evidence be damned, and that's your prerogative. You have just as much right to support them as anyone else." Playing weasel words now, are we?  Oh - no ... I didn't mean you are supporting them etc - I just said you had the same right as anyone else to support them .... and even though I said "You've never wavered, evidence be damned" - that doesn't mean I'm saying you support them .. it just means... oh... whatever I think it does... Do you ever actually think anything through?  Or is it your grasp on the English language that fails you? Schoolyard sheila.

Ah, the classic pivot-and-weasel manoeuvre. Let's unpack this, since apparently that's a foreign concept.

I didn't say you support them. I said you have the same right as anyone else to support them, a factual statement about rights, not endorsement. When I added ‘you've never wavered, evidence be damned', that's a statement about consistency of reasoning, not political allegiance.

Your attempt to turn my words into some admission or label of support is… creative, but it doesn't hold up to the slightest scrutiny.

If your grasp of English isn't quite up to the task of parsing meaning, perhaps you should pause before accusing others of saying things they plainly didn't.

Schoolyard logic, indeed.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 12:20pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 12:04pm: Sussan Ley - what happens when you are promoted to your level of incompetence just because you are a woman. There was no other reason for her elevation. The conservatives have been manic in their refusal to promote a woman under any circumstance, She was by far the most consistent high profile option they had. They have mearly replaced her with their next loser in line. PIcking a woman is the last thing they would want to do, she was selected in spite of being female not because of it.

They need to choose the best person for the job - not just another falcon woman force fed on us.

They certainly bring a different aspect to the table - more grift, graft, weakness and emotional insouciance and some incredible belief in the sweetness and light of the most barbaric on earth and on some dead-end feminist supremacism based on forty years of endless preference for them instead of reality ....... while the castle walls are being smashed down to bring in the barbarians......

Stupid is as stupid does.

I have no objection to having a woman in the Lodge.. Hawkie had a few there from reports.... but in all seriousness ... I'm happy to support a woman who can DO THE JOB ..... Leys foundered from day one due to her horrible history of rorting etc...nobody but the party wanted her even on the ticket.... and many party members who didn't want that were over-ridden by city hall - the power brokers.

Self-inflicted injury.

Give Jacinta Price a little more time - maybe Hastie as deputy ...  he's sort of growing on me despite his failures past - more due to the senior command not really giving him the ropes to learn... Kingdom of God stuff... went out on a great crusade primed with secondment to the 'best' (a Captain SAS is the lowest commissioned rank and is really much like a 2nd Lieutenant who listens to his sergeants etc - and is on prbation very much) and found that it was really all poo and blood and chopped hands for ID when necessary.

This is the only answer to all problems:


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ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 12:13pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 12:04pm: Sussan Ley - what happens when you are promoted to your level of incompetence just because you are a woman. There was no other reason for her elevation. It's politics, of course there is. She was never meant to take the party into the next election. She was a placeholder, the bench-warmer installed to absorb the flak while they tried to recover from a historic loss. That much was obvious to anyone paying attention. Angus was always the intended end point from the remnants left behind. The timeline just got accelerated because the boys' club couldn't tolerate a woman holding the top job any longer, especially the NATs. And your comment only reinforces the point. When you reduce her elevation to "because she's a woman", you're not analysing strategy, you're advertising your own prejudice, just like the boys' club. The lens you view the world through is exactly as ugly as the conclusion you reached.

Nonsense.  Had she been competent she would still be leader.  She wasn't so she isn't.

The electorate - not the 'boys' club' - didn't see her as in any way a serious counterweight to Albaweasel DESPITE his evident weakness and incompetence.


Whether Taylor has now been elevated to his level of incompetence is yet to be seen. If he proves to be just as much out of his depth as Ley then he, too, will be replaced. Politics is not primary school where all shall have prizes.



Your emotional and rhetorical incontinence is ludicrous.

Daves2017 wrote on Feb 12^th, 2026 at 9:07pm:

Angus has one job. Stop the self destruction of the LNP and focus on finding $$$ for the next election. Clearly the LNP is now in a desperate battle to come second. I hope they win it personally

Don't tell Angus what you think his job description is.

At a news media circus, he rightly elected the economy and c-o-l as the issue most Aussies are concerned about, and the issue he would be "100% addressing" -  by cutting taxes and reducing government spending, of coirse.

He is either totally dumb - despite his PhD in economcs - or just ideologically crippled:

(google)

The "trickle-down fallacy" refers to the widely criticized economic theory that reducing taxes on corporations and the wealthy stimulates economic growth that benefits all income levels. Critics argue this approach fails, widening income inequality and concentrating wealth at the top rather than creating promised widespread prosperity.

Your cynicism about politics, and ignorance of alterntive economic systems, is the reason why democracies are failing, as disillusioned voters are  fleeing to the 'populist' right.

.....or the the refreshing Left, like Mamdani in NY, ie, away from the failed policies of the political "centre" which is welded to failing mainstream Neoclassical economics.   

Even Sky News can see the problem (but doesn't know how to fix it.....):

(Sky News)

‘Powerful forces being unleashed’: Crisis of ‘uncertainty’ driving One Nation vote

Redbridge Group Director Simon Welsh claims economic uncertainty is driving the One Nation vote.

“We have seen on the right what this kind of uncertainty and anxiety can produce, and it’s absolutely driving this One Nation vote,” Mr Welsh told Sky News Australia.

“It’s all the same crisis… It’s economic, it’s social, it’s global.

“These are pretty powerful forces that are being unleashed.”

........

"It's the economy. stupid".......hence the question:

"Where's the money coming from".

Politicians haven't got a clue, hence their silly political games.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 11:17am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 11:10am: Great work shifting the deck chairs around on the Titanic. Now that was a perfect deck chair shift... you try hard ... Anyway - I forgot to add they need to push for reliable power etc as well. You see - it does't matter what they did in the past - in your eyes - what matters is what they are going to do for the future. Smart people wait for that ..... instead of just being negative all the time...

Taylor says he will fix the economy and restore economic wellbeing for all Aussies by...(drum roll).... "cutting taxes and government spending"

Does that fit your concept of  "something new in the future"? 

Get ready for single digit poll numbers  ;D

To survive, Angus Taylor's Liberals must now get over their self-obsession ;D

Daves2017 wrote on Feb 12^th, 2026 at 8:49pm:

The votes have been counted and Susso is now on her way to buy more investment properties on the Gold Coast but now she has to pay for her own accommodation, travel and food rather then stealing from the Australian taxpayers. “Fantastic. Great move. Well done Angus.” “ Angus Taylor The very few LNP supporters left will pause their move to One Nation and give Angus a chance. Something had to be done . Duddo  & Susso was and is a complete disaster and failure of leadership for the LNP. This is not about Angus leading the LNP to victory anytime in the next decade. This is all about shoring up votes and the commonwealth system of paying each party $$ for each vote they receive. The LNP is not financial in a good position. As headlines talk up One Nation donors $$ will shift to Pauline. I sincerely doubt Malcom Turnbull is going to fund another LNP election so they are desperate to shore up the election $ for each vote. Angus job is. To find away too stop the LNP bleeding money. Without coin they will become extinct. The party that calls itself the financial managers are very close to being broke.

Therein lies the problem. It would have been better for Ley to remain in charge and continue to oversee the Liberals slide into oblivion while the remaining voters turned to ON.

Belgarion wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 3:25pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Feb 12th, 2026 at 8:49pm: The votes have been counted and Susso is now on her way to buy more investment properties on the Gold Coast but now she has to pay for her own accommodation, travel and food rather then stealing from the Australian taxpayers. “Fantastic. Great move. Well done Angus.” “ Angus Taylor The very few LNP supporters left will pause their move to One Nation and give Angus a chance. Something had to be done . Duddo  & Susso was and is a complete disaster and failure of leadership for the LNP. This is not about Angus leading the LNP to victory anytime in the next decade. This is all about shoring up votes and the commonwealth system of paying each party $$ for each vote they receive. The LNP is not financial in a good position. As headlines talk up One Nation donors $$ will shift to Pauline. I sincerely doubt Malcom Turnbull is going to fund another LNP election so they are desperate to shore up the election $ for each vote. Angus job is. To find away too stop the LNP bleeding money. Without coin they will become extinct. The party that calls itself the financial managers are very close to being broke. Therein lies the problem. It would have been better for Ley to remain in charge and continue to oversee the Liberals slide into oblivion while the remaining voters turned to ON.

Better for whom?

The Libs don't see it your way...

Can you tell us how ON will raise living standards for all while cutting taxes?


"One Nation’s tax policy focuses on easing cost-of-living pressures for families and reducing government expenditure. Key proposals include allowing couples with children to split their income for tax purposes, cutting fuel excise by 26 cents per litre, abolishing GST on insurance, and removing excise on alcohol at venues, while potentially slashing $90 billion in Commonwealth spending."

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 3:43pm:

Can you tell us how ON will raise living standards while cutting taxes?

But you say we don't need to raise taxes. ::)

LNP never again wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 3:09pm:

Get ready for single digit poll numbers  ;D

Angus - with the help of Pauline will come up with a formula to save us all:


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lee wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 3:48pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 3:43pm: Can you tell us how ON will raise living standards while cutting taxes? But you say we don't need to raise taxes. ::)

We don't - but very few understand how money is created, so until the penny drops in Uni economics depts., we are stuck with the present system.

Even Musk, while claiming (re the AI boom)  "currencies will become irrelevant", and "work will be optional", doesn't know how money is created - though he knows how to rake it in....

Amazingly he said the problem will be DEflation because of "lack of money supply" to enable consumers to purchase all the goods and services made possible by AI-informed production.   

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 3:43pm:

Belgarion wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 3:25pm: Daves2017 wrote on Feb 12th, 2026 at 8:49pm: The votes have been counted and Susso is now on her way to buy more investment properties on the Gold Coast but now she has to pay for her own accommodation, travel and food rather then stealing from the Australian taxpayers. “Fantastic. Great move. Well done Angus.” “ Angus Taylor The very few LNP supporters left will pause their move to One Nation and give Angus a chance. Something had to be done . Duddo  & Susso was and is a complete disaster and failure of leadership for the LNP. This is not about Angus leading the LNP to victory anytime in the next decade. This is all about shoring up votes and the commonwealth system of paying each party $$ for each vote they receive. The LNP is not financial in a good position. As headlines talk up One Nation donors $$ will shift to Pauline. I sincerely doubt Malcom Turnbull is going to fund another LNP election so they are desperate to shore up the election $ for each vote. Angus job is. To find away too stop the LNP bleeding money. Without coin they will become extinct. The party that calls itself the financial managers are very close to being broke. Therein lies the problem. It would have been better for Ley to remain in charge and continue to oversee the Liberals slide into oblivion while the remaining voters turned to ON. Better for whom? The Libs don't see it your way... Can you tell us how ON will raise living standards for all while cutting taxes? "One Nation’s tax policy focuses on easing cost-of-living pressures for families and reducing government expenditure. Key proposals include allowing couples with children to split their income for tax purposes, cutting fuel excise by 26 cents per litre, abolishing GST on insurance, and removing excise on alcohol at venues, while potentially slashing $90 billion in Commonwealth spending."

There are plenty of areas where government spending can be cut... Funding foreign terrorists for example, or 'renewables' grifters, or NDIS scammers..the list goes on...

Belgarion wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 4:00pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 3:43pm: Belgarion wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 3:25pm: Daves2017 wrote on Feb 12th, 2026 at 8:49pm: The votes have been counted and Susso is now on her way to buy more investment properties on the Gold Coast but now she has to pay for her own accommodation, travel and food rather then stealing from the Australian taxpayers. “Fantastic. Great move. Well done Angus.” “ Angus Taylor The very few LNP supporters left will pause their move to One Nation and give Angus a chance. Something had to be done . Duddo  & Susso was and is a complete disaster and failure of leadership for the LNP. This is not about Angus leading the LNP to victory anytime in the next decade. This is all about shoring up votes and the commonwealth system of paying each party $$ for each vote they receive. The LNP is not financial in a good position. As headlines talk up One Nation donors $$ will shift to Pauline. I sincerely doubt Malcom Turnbull is going to fund another LNP election so they are desperate to shore up the election $ for each vote. Angus job is. To find away too stop the LNP bleeding money. Without coin they will become extinct. The party that calls itself the financial managers are very close to being broke. Therein lies the problem. It would have been better for Ley to remain in charge and continue to oversee the Liberals slide into oblivion while the remaining voters turned to ON. Better for whom? The Libs don't see it your way... Can you tell us how ON will raise living standards for all while cutting taxes? "One Nation’s tax policy focuses on easing cost-of-living pressures for families and reducing government expenditure. Key proposals include allowing couples with children to split their income for tax purposes, cutting fuel excise by 26 cents per litre, abolishing GST on insurance, and removing excise on alcohol at venues, while potentially slashing $90 billion in Commonwealth spending." There are plenty of areas where government spending can be cut... Funding foreign terrorists for example,

maybe $1 billion?


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or 'renewables' grifters,

Actually, the Oz treasury COULD fund provision of solar + battery on every Oz rooftop, providing nearly free household energy, while avoiding the need for massive large scale grid and storage upgrade.  China is a willing seller of PVs and batteries, so no 'supply push' inflation in Oz.

(The only reason I don't buy my own system is I don't have the spare cash at the moment).


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or NDIS scammers..

..due to outsourcing of services to the private sector.


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the list goes on...

Yeh, but $90 billion in savings isn't easy tp find, as Galagher will tell you....and ON and the Libs wont identify. 

Someone reported a press conference - this is what he said the Liberals stand for:

- Australian's deserve to own homes
- immigration policy that puts Australians first – Australian values at centre of those policies.
- lower inflation, lower interest rates, lower taxes.
- government must live within it's means, so Australians have the means to live.
- grow the economy so it delivers for you
- energy policy based on common sense
- get rid of labors carbon taxes, on vehicles and electricity
- not force every family into a universal system for daycare.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 4:19pm:

Someone reported a press conference - this is what he said the Liberals stand for: - Australian's deserve to own homes

"Deserve" to own homes?

Well...a home to live in is essential, ownership is unrealistic for low income groups given  current private market prices.   


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- immigration policy that puts Australians first – Australian values at centre of those policies.

Including stealing the most qualified workers from poor overseas  countries?


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- lower inflation, lower interest rates, lower taxes.

The 'trickle down' fallacy


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- government must live within it's means, so Australians have the means to live.

 

A cute slogan, based on igorance of the fact govts. ISSUE money  - (and could be authorized to fund the public sector for free, (ie without needing  'taxpayer money', or borrowing money), unlike households who  USE money and must earn or borrow it .


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- grow the economy so it delivers for you

Another political slogan lacking substance: how do achieve it?


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- energy policy based on common sense

You mean..not based on science....


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- get rid of labors carbon taxes, on vehicles and electricity

Yes, see above...



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- not force every family into a universal system for daycare.

So - restrict it to those who can't afford daycare....sounds sensible but difficult for the bureaucracy to  measure.

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grow the economy so it delivers for you

TGD,

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Another political slogan lacking substance: how do achieve it?

I assume he means value adding?

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 4:52pm:

Quote: grow the economy so it delivers for you TGD, [quote]Another political slogan lacking substance: how do achieve it?

I assume he means value adding?[/quote]

Well he needs to say it, and how to do it, given value-adding while competing with China isn't profitable in the private sector.

eg apparently a (US-owned) lithium refining company in WA closed  today (with the loss of 400 jobs) because it can't compete on world markets.

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 13^th, 2026 at 5:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13th, 2026 at 4:52pm: Quote: grow the economy so it delivers for you TGD, [quote]Another political slogan lacking substance: how do achieve it? I assume he means value adding?

Well he needs to say it, and how to do it, given value-adding while competing with China isn't profitable in the private sector.

eg apparently a (US-owned) lithium refining company in WA closed  today (with the loss of 400 jobs) because it can't compete on world markets.
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yes - so sad,
and when China has cornered the market - put everyone else out of business -
they'll put the prices up to get their money back.
It should be a criminal offence.