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General Discussion >> America >> ICE shot dead another US Citizen http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1769283309 Message started by ProudKangaroo on Jan 25th, 2026 at 5:35am |
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Title: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 25th, 2026 at 5:35am Quote:
I assume, as with the Renee Goods case, that regardless of what ultimately occurred, the official account will contain omissions, spin, or misinformation intended to protect ICE as an institution rather than provide a full and accurate account of events. Available reporting and early footage suggest that the man had been disarmed during apprehension, was tackled by multiple agents, and was on the ground when he was shot while in ICE custody. Those facts, if confirmed, raise serious and legitimate questions that cannot be resolved by press statements alone. Given the DHS's record in similar cases, it would be prudent to treat official claims with scepticism and instead prioritise independently recorded footage and eyewitness material, however confronting, to establish a clearer understanding of what actually happened. I'm sure the usual suspects will accept and defend whatever version of events they are presented with from the DHS, but others can at least form their views by examining the primary evidence rather than relying on an account produced by the agency whose conduct is being defended. I can't believe this has happened again. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by chimera on Jan 25th, 2026 at 5:53am
The FBI investigator into Terrorist R Good has resigned, after six prosecutors with the U.S. attorney’s office in Minnesota resigned over their concerns about the direction of the investigation. It's been 18 days and no charges against the patriot.
There is immunity for executions of resistors. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 25th, 2026 at 5:55am
So far, available accounts suggest the man intervened after witnessing an ICE agent pushing a woman, at which point he was pepper sprayed, taken down by multiple agents, and further sprayed in the face. Footage and eyewitness descriptions indicate that while on the ground, with his hands covering his face, he was shot while in ICE custody, with multiple rounds fired in rapid succession.
That sequence of events, if accurately reflected by the available material, raises serious and unavoidable questions about the use of force and the conduct of the agents involved. What the videos show: - ICE had pepper-sprayed him - Disarmed him - Had him subdued on the ground - At the time of the shooting, he had both hands on the ground in front of him Just like with Renee Goods, nobody was in danger other than the victim at the time of the shooting. Footage available so far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXPmbxNrcfk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zegBn3lPHW4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WW8qqDyr9k |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by aquascoot on Jan 25th, 2026 at 5:58am
Was he a friend of yours skippy.
I wouldn't post that much if one of my siblings died :-[ |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Bobby. on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:03am
From Kanga's link:
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/live-updates/reported-shooting-south-minneapolis-federal-agents-protesters/ DHS spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement that agents fired "defensive shots" after "an individual approached U.S. Border Patrol officers with a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun. " McLaughlin said the officers attempted to disarm the subject but the person "violently resisted. " O'Hara said the man had a permit to carry. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:10am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 5:35am:
Not only do I believe it, but I predicted it. And the sad thing is, this is just the beginning. Noem's Nazis are not going to stop murdering innocent, American citizens. This is all part of the plan. Trump's Gestapo have only just begun. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:12am Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:03am:
Lies. Nazi propaganda. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:15am
Here is another video of him prior to the shooting.
He does not appear to be a paid agitator, nor behaving violently, nor interfering with any investigation, but simply exercising his First Amendment right to record the actions of ICE agents. The footage provides important context as to his conduct before the incident and raises obvious questions about the justification for what followed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhYF4xixLys |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:20am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:12am:
It is difficult to reconcile claims of defensive fire with the available footage. The man had been pepper sprayed, disarmed, and subdued, with his hands clearly visible on the ground in front of his face. At most, the most benign explanation I can conceive is that when the individual in the grey jacket was taking the victim's firearm, the weapon was not properly secured and discharged accidentally, spooking the other agents and prompting them to open fire, the familiar "acorn" defence and they unloaded entire magazines into him... Regardless of which explanation is ultimately advanced, the outcome remains the same. This is why I said, ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 5:35am:
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:20am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:15am:
It's another case of cold-blooded murder by Trump's Brownshirts. It won't be investigated and the coward in the mask won't be reprimanded (he'll probably receive a pay rise and an invitation to the White House). Sadly, this is only the beginning. Dozens of American citizens are going to be murdered by Noem's Nazis. It's all part of the plan. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:21am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:20am:
The shooters will be gofundme millionaires soon... |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by chimera on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:22am aquascoot wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 5:58am:
They are Muslim suicide shooters of ASIO then? |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:39am
The video shows ICE agents clapping as they shoot him too...
It's sick. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:54am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:39am:
Yep. They're wild dogs, and now they have a taste for blood. Knowing that their actions will never be questioned by the Trump regime, they're not going to stop. They're killing innocent, American-born citizens and kidnapping children. Mass murder is the next step. America was warned that this was coming, but they didn't listen. It's too late to stop it now. Even if Trump dies tomorrow, this reign of terror will continue under Stephen Miller's direction. Buckle up, America. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Bobby. on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:56am
Greggy and Kanga have gone hysterical -
they think ICE agents are out on the streets murdering people for no reason in cold blood. ::) Meanwhile 19,000 people have died from super flu subclade K variant. https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1683678712/1740#1750 |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:01am Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:56am:
Both Renee Good and this latest victim, the shooters were trying to execute them, not de-escalate. Good was shot in the head from the side of the car after the "perceived threat" had passed, and if you watch the videos, the latest victim was shot twice, then followed up with emptying the entire magazine into him. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:04am Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:56am:
That's exactly what they're doing, and they're murdering them in the concentration camps too. They're also kidnapping children. This isn't a joke, Bobby - this is Trump's Nazi regime. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Bobby. on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:08am Greggy and Kanga have gone hysterical. :o |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:16am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:04am:
They don't even hide it any more. Check out the Nazi cosplay coat. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:23am Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:08am:
If what ICE is doing doesn't make you sick, you're proving that it's not just uneducated ignorant or misinformed people who make up MAGA. You're just evil. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:40am
The FBI agent who initially investigated the Renee Good shooting resigned after being ordered to change his focus from her being a victim to being an aggressor. Now we have another shooting by an ICE agent of someone who seemingly was shot only because he was carrying a sidearm - for which he had a concealed carry permit. ICE do not have the power to arrest or detain US citizens unless they are actively impeding their job. From the videos, it appears this was not the case. What it actually shows is a man being pinned to the ground by ICE agents who were beating him and it seems he drew his weapon in self defence, only to be shot by an ICE agent while on the ground.
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Bobby. on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:40am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:23am:
It's evil to call other people evil until the facts are known. ::) |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Leroy on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:42am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:40am:
Suicide then. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by chimera on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:43am Bobby Nah, R Good was evil and the White House knows everything in advance. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by chimera on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:47am Leroy wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:42am:
Probably. Drawing a gun while being held face-down needs amazing skills to aim backwards with hand reversed. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:49am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:23am:
Indeed. It seems that we have more sociopaths in this forum than I first thought. Anyone defending these murders and kidnappings is a very sick person. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Leroy on Jan 25th, 2026 at 8:22am
So this guy arm himself with his 9mm pistol and goes and interferes with ICE agents, and lefties think they are clever.
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 25th, 2026 at 8:30am chimera wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 7:47am:
Grey jacket guy already took the victims gun from the holster before any shots were fired. It was also a legal firearm with a licensed to carry. Video footage from before the altercation even started shows he was just filming ICE. Again, constitutionally protected behaviour with multiple federal courts upholding this. The 2nd amendment people should be worried. If what the usual suspects are saying, exercising your 2md amendment right is justification for federal agents to execute you. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Leroy on Jan 25th, 2026 at 8:44am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 8:30am:
Of course they should be worried, if you think that the second amendment gives you the right to put your hands on federal agents when they are trying to detain criminals there is a good chance if you are carrying a gun you will be shot. If he had of stayed within his rights and just filmed what was happening then he would be alive. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2026 at 8:49am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 8:30am:
Yep. It's another clear case of cold-blooded murder, and it won't be the last. Noem's Nazis have been given the go-ahead to kill anyone they want now without having to justify their actions. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 25th, 2026 at 8:51am
You can also see in the footage, ICE agents were searching his dead body looking for the gun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNAQFsjPd8I Like I said, Grey Jacket already took the gun from him before a shot was fired and walked away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v9Scp0_-7Y Synced video of all 3 clips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5m9s-95vjM It's genuinely unhinged that, once again, we have clear, comprehensive video of events, and yet the official DHS and White House statements are outright fabrications. Even more disturbing is the number of people willing to be led like rats by a pied piper, defending those lies without the slightest resistance, actively choosing to disbelieve what they can plainly see with their own eyes. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 25th, 2026 at 9:35am
It's utterly insane what we're seeing.
What you can see from the videos is that Alex Jeffrey Pretti, a 37‑year‑old ICU nurse, was legally filming ICE when he stepped in to help a woman an agent shoved. He was pepper‑sprayed, pinned to the ground by multiple agents, and while face‑down with his hands visible, after his firearm had already been taken, two shots rang out, followed by what sounded like eight more as he lay motionless. Agents can be seen clapping immediately afterwards before searching his body for the gun that had already been removed. The official story? DHS claims he "approached" agents armed with a 9 mm handgun, resisted disarmament, and was shot in self‑defence. Greg Bovino has bizarrely suggested Pretti was targeting federal agents to cause maximum damage. This is exactly why recording ICE is critical, the lies are completely out of control. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by aquascoot on Jan 25th, 2026 at 10:42am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 9:35am:
It is utterly insane what we are seeing. A few mongs with TDS who can't get over one death of an illegal criminal, whilst they are happy to support the hamas sponsor , the islamist ayatollah who kills 10,000 of his own citizens . Utterly insane. I'm speechless at the insanity of the leftie intellectuals who devote their lives to finding anything the noble patriotic orange man can be smeared with. Next they will be commenting on his wife's genitals odour. These deranged fools need locking up . Hopefully ICE can tend to them next |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by chimera on Jan 25th, 2026 at 11:09am Leroy wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 8:44am:
He put his hands on his cam and backed away as agents walked up, without tension. There's no sign any of them were under threat by his gun. (Did you notice Trump has attacked 'Nobel', 'Good' and 'Pretti'?) |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2026 at 11:22am aquascoot wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 10:42am:
Another Nazi sympathiser. Not surprising, seeing as he's an Epstein fan. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 25th, 2026 at 11:32am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 9:35am:
Ah yes, Bovino. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Karnal on Jan 25th, 2026 at 12:11pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 10:42am:
I think it's a smart move. The Real Americans will be coming out in their droves to vote for the big fella's pro-American policies, you'll see. The more ICE executions, the better. The chodes love this stuff. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Karnal on Jan 25th, 2026 at 12:12pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 11:32am:
A true patriot. Stephen Miller will be having a right old chuckle. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Bobby. on Jan 25th, 2026 at 12:15pm Karnal wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 12:11pm:
It's the End Times. Jesus has returned already - he's hiding somewhere - he's in Israel - near Armageddon - he is 2059 years old - he never aged - he never dies - even if you crucify him. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Frank on Jan 27th, 2026 at 10:43am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 9:35am:
J6ers Wishing They Had Thought Of Branding Themselves 'Legal Observers' "That's such a good idea!" Jacob Paulson told friends. "It seems like if you say you're just there as a ‘legal observer, ' the democrats will let you do whatever you want. I bet Nancy Pelosi would have just let that guy take her lectern if he had just called himself a ‘legal observer.' What were we thinking?" Following weeks of unrest in Minnesota, many self-proclaimed ‘legal observers' have been arrested for blocking ICE operations, assaulting law enforcement, and generally obstructing justice. Democrats hail the protests as just and virtuous and remind protestors they just have to call themselves ‘legal observers,' and they can do anything they want. Many people who were arrested on January 6th realized they should have called themselves ‘legal observers' so democrats would have supported their efforts. "It's so obvious, why didn't I think of that before!" Paulson remarked. "I'm a legal observer! Now hand me that Molotov cocktail, I'm gonna yeet it at some of these Nazi ICE agents," one observer told a friend. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 27th, 2026 at 11:19am Karnal wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 12:12pm:
And Trump's laughing on the other side of his face? |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Carl D on Jan 27th, 2026 at 11:25am
I don't know how he does it but Mr. Newberger hits the bullseye every single time with these.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tHg5v6tADk TINY COPS - The Series Pilot Quote:
Yes, keep fighting the good fight Mr. Newberger. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Marla on Jan 27th, 2026 at 11:53am Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 6:56am:
Shut up, Blooby. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Bobby. on Jan 27th, 2026 at 12:14pm Marla wrote on Jan 27th, 2026 at 11:53am:
Jesus is back. The 4 horsemen have lined up. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Marla on Jan 27th, 2026 at 12:15pm Leroy wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 8:22am:
You suck at pro-Russian propaganda. You festering idiot. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Marla on Jan 27th, 2026 at 12:16pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 27th, 2026 at 12:14pm:
Shut up, Blooby |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Bobby. on Jan 27th, 2026 at 12:25pm Marla wrote on Jan 27th, 2026 at 12:16pm:
Google AI: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are biblical figures from the Book of Revelation, symbolizing Conquest/Pestilence (white horse), War (red horse), Famine (black horse), and Death (pale horse). They appear when the Lamb of God opens the first four of seven seals, heralding divine judgment and the end times, though interpretations vary, sometimes including religious deception or the Antichrist for the first rider. Who They Are (Traditional Interpretation) Conquest/Pestilence (White Horse): Rides with a bow, given a crown, often seen as a figure of triumph, religious deception, or plague. War (Red Horse): Given a great sword to take peace from the earth, causing people to slay one another. Famine (Black Horse): Carries scales, symbolizing scarcity and the high cost of food, notes Life, Hope & Truth. Death (Pale/Ashen Horse): Followed by Hades (the grave), given power over a quarter of the earth to kill by sword, famine, plague, and wild beasts, according to Wikipedia. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Marla on Jan 27th, 2026 at 12:33pm
Shut up, Blooby.
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Bobby. on Jan 27th, 2026 at 12:37pm Marla wrote on Jan 27th, 2026 at 12:33pm:
Doth thou deniest that the End Times are upon us? |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by chimera on Jan 27th, 2026 at 1:40pm Leroy wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 8:44am:
And he had a car with its wheels pointed towards at least 18 ICE troops. The cam probably had a short-barrel high power zoom with explosive content. He had bombs or could easily have concealed them, with machine gun back up if needed. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Karnal on Jan 27th, 2026 at 5:59pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27th, 2026 at 11:19am:
He's trying, Greggery. He's giving it a go. Bit of a giggle, bit of a grimace, no? It's 50-50. Turn that frown upside down down, DL. Come the mid-terms, you'll be be able to have a nice, long rest. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Mortdooley on Jan 27th, 2026 at 10:48pm
Ultimately it is the insurrectionists who are responsible for creating the atmosphere where Law Enforcement over reacted in this tragedy.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2026/01/26/watch-sylvester-stallones-brother-frank-shreds-minnesota-democrats-the-governor-mayor-instigating-trouble-perpetuating-it-against-law-enforcement/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20260126 Sylvester Stallone’s Brother Frank Shreds Minnesota Democrats, ‘The Governor, Mayor, Instigating Trouble. Perpetuating It Against Law Enforcement’ Sylvester Stallone’s brother Frank took to his Instagram account to rip into Democrats in Minnesota for their response to President Donald Trump’s concerted crackdown on illegal immigration in so-called sanctuary states. Stallone did not hold back in his caption, writing, “Minnesota you need to get your act together. Look at every State and City that is run by Democrats, they are all failing poison by corrupt politicians. These paid agitators are from out of state and are distorting the facts. Coming into Christian house of the lord, intimidating children? Please give me a break. This needs to stop now.” In the video, the actor told his followers, “It’s very sad to see what’s going on in Minnesota right now… Minnesota used to be a beautiful city — St. Paul and Minneapolis — it’s just falling apart. I mean these people, the instigators, the governor, the mayor, instigating trouble. Perpetuating it against law enforcement.” “My theory is this: you shouldn’t be able to get 25 feet near a federal officer or the police in a situation like this. Taking cars and throwing bottles that are frozen, this could cause serious, serious damage. And if someone doesn’t get on it, I think the president might have to do the insurrection act,” he continued. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Karnal on Jan 27th, 2026 at 11:21pm
He's right, Greggery. Ultimately it was the insurrectionists who invited ICE and Border Security into Minnesota.
It's 800 miles from the southern border, but you know what they say about the grand old Duke of York, no? He marched them up to the top of the hill and he marched them down again. |
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Title: Re: ICE shot dead another US Citizen Post by Marla on Jan 28th, 2026 at 1:45am Mortdooley wrote on Jan 27th, 2026 at 10:48pm:
Good ol morty torty. Proof that Texuus are by far the most god damn dumbest shitstains in America. Go brush what's left of your last remaining tooth, morty. |
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