Due to the crackdown on crime and drugs by Trump murder rates in America have fallen by 20% which is the best its been since 1900.

yep - thanks to Trump:


https://realtimecrimeindex.com/

What? Only 20%?

I would have expected to hear 1,400 to 1,500% if Trump had anything to do with it.

Look at the time line. It was rising steeply as Trump was finishing Jan 2021, then was brought down by Biden from June 2022 and equals that trend of ~12%

Leroy wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 1:29pm:

Due to the crackdown on crime and drugs by Trump murder rates in America have fallen by 20% which is the best its been since 1900.

Imagine that

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 1:38pm:

yep - thanks to Trump: https://realtimecrimeindex.com/

Sorry, Bobby, what was your response when the murder rate was shown to you during the last election?

I believe you made a point about unreported violent crime, yes?

All those unreported stiffs floating in the Hudson, all those unreported muggings, rapes, arson attacks and friends of Elon's mum getting harassed by ANTIFA -

What did you have to say about them again?

Karnal wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 5:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 1:38pm: yep - thanks to Trump: https://realtimecrimeindex.com/ Sorry, Bobby, what was your response when the murder rate was shown to you during the last election? I believe you made a point about unreported violent crime, yes? All those unreported stiffs floating in the Hudson, all those unreported muggings, rapes, arson attacks and friends of Elon's mum getting harassed by ANTIFA - What did you have to say about them again?

I can't remember that.

Look - he's a wise man, he's a brave man, he has plans, he has wisdom.

What are they gunna say when he's gone?

https://democraticunderground.com/10143603168


Homicide rate declines sharply in dozens of US cities, a new report shows


Source: AP

Updated 8:46 AM EST, January 22, 2026


Data collected from 35 American cities showed a 21% decrease in the homicide rate from 2024 to 2025, translating to about 922 fewer homicides last year, according to a new report from the independent Council on Criminal Justice.

The report, released on Thursday, tracked 13 crimes and recorded drops last year in 11 of those categories including carjackings, shoplifting, aggravated assaults and others. Drug crimes saw a small increase over last year and sexual assaults stayed even between 2024 and 2025, the study found.

Experts said cities and states beyond those surveyed showed similar declines in homicides and other crimes. But they said it’s too early to tell what is prompting the change even as elected officials at all levels — both Democrats and Republicans — have been claiming credit.

Adam Gelb, president and CEO of the council — a nonpartisan think tank for criminal justice policy and research — said that after historic increases in violence during the COVID-19 pandemic, this year brought historic decreases. The study found some cities recorded decades-low numbers, with the overall homicide rate dropping to its lowest in decades. “It’s a dramatic drop to an absolutely astonishing level. As we celebrate it we also need to unpack and try to understand it,” Gelb said. “There’s never one reason crime goes up or down.”

The rate of Trump's bank frauds is steady with no record of vote thieving by the Trump White House syndicate.  Land theft is up slightly (2 countries and Gaza take-over) and demolition of Washington Ball Room is under Vandalism litigation.  ICE murders are up a little bit but no-one has noticed so far.

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 4:16pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 1:29pm: Due to the crackdown on crime and drugs by Trump murder rates in America have fallen by 20% which is the best its been since 1900. Imagine that

I know, right?

All those DOJ prosecutors pulled off cases to work on the Epstein files.

All those FBI agents and executives purged by Kash Patel.

All the mass layoffs by DOGE and other staff cuts in the DOE, EPA, ATF, FEMA, Civil Aviation, Coast Guard - over 9% of an already strapped US federal workforce.

And all those US troops sent to cities to stand around doing nothing because, as every schoolboy knows, it's illegal for federal troops to arrest or detain people on US soil and their deployment was illegal to begin with, as the Supreme Court just ruled.

So yes, apart from the fact that your DL has done nothing to reduce the murder rate and has in fact done everything he can to raise the risk by pardoning and releasing violent offenders, I will say this.

The murder rate, along with all violent crime, has been on a steeply downward trajectory since your DL was first in office during covid, the George Floyd riots and the resulting far-right violence, in 2020.

Why?

Mass surveillance, an aging population and a move to online interaction is just part of the story.

The Great Crime Drop has been happening for years. Theories range from various social and economic factors to the removal of lead from petrol. The developed, and even much of the developing world has reached a tipping point in its tolerance of violence. Schools, neighbourhoods and communities don't cop it, and this has led to a self-fulfilling cycle where more people come out to see potential crime, report it and often prevent it.

I dare say gender plays a role too - more women in public space - but do you know?

All this has happened in spite of your DL. If he had his way, murder and violent crime would rise.

As he said when describing a violent Nazi riot that resulted in murder, there was good and bad on both sides. As he said when asked about armed groups committed to the use of violence to achieve political ends, I say Proud Boys, stand back and stand by. As he said on Jan 6, we fight, we fight like hell, or we may not have a country anymore.

He went on to pardon hundreds of violent rioters, many who attacked and injured police. He ordered a $5 mil payout to Ashleigh Babbitt's family - a woman who was shot in the process of breaking into Congress to use violence against politicians.

Shot by police, who now ICE are in the frame for shooting civilians in cold blood, you claim to have immunity for shooting anybody they like.

So no, dear, you're only claiming what we told you all along. Violent crime is seriously in decline, despite all of your DL's inane krap about releasing those from jails, mental hospitals and mental asylums, eating cats and dogs and all the rest. Now he's been in for a year, you want to return to reality again.

Come come, do you really think we're going to let you get away with that?

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 5:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 5:16pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 1:38pm: yep - thanks to Trump: https://realtimecrimeindex.com/ Sorry, Bobby, what was your response when the murder rate was shown to you during the last election? I believe you made a point about unreported violent crime, yes? All those unreported stiffs floating in the Hudson, all those unreported muggings, rapes, arson attacks and friends of Elon's mum getting harassed by ANTIFA - What did you have to say about them again? I can't remember that. Look - he's a wise man, he's a brave man, he has plans, he has wisdom. What are they gunna say when he's gone?

How peculiar. You can't remember hours and hours of posts where you made out Sleepy Joe had turned the once-great cities of America into violent, crime-ridden hell-holes, the likes of which we've never seen before?

Then, when we told you how we'd recently visited those cities and there's no such thing, you quoted DL.

Sorry? We said. That's DL, who you admire for making stuff up. How do you know it's true?

I know, you said. Melbourne's just as bad. The Jigaboos have taken over completely. For evidence, you posted a meme from the 1964 film, Zulu. When we pressed, you posted a Daily Mail article about London.

Strange, we said. We were in Melbourne last week. It was full of white families on trams going to AFL games, but I'm curious. Have you ever left your own house?

Me? You said. Good God, no.

So what about work? How do you engage, make a living and get by?

Work's for suckers and stiffs, you said. I get by.

So how do you make money? How do you get out to buy food? We were most curious.

Oh, other people do all that, you said.

So you don't actually know whether anything you post is true.

It doesn't have to be true, you said, it just is. All is in accordance with the DP.

Sorry? We said. What does that mean?

You said you didn't know, your Master had told you.

We extracted this information out of you over many weeks, lots of evasions, distractions and whatabout-thats in between, but we did get it, so we know.

Are you saying you've already forgotten?

Hi Karnal,
I don't remember any of that -
you must be making it all up.


forgiven

namaste

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 7:30pm:

Hi Karnal, I don't remember any of that - you must be making it all up. forgiven namaste

Bobby don't disagree with him, it causes confusion and anger. Just go along with it.

chimera wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 5:53pm:

The rate of Trump's bank frauds is steady with no record of vote thieving by the Trump White House syndicate.  Land theft is up slightly (2 countries and Gaza take-over) and demolition of Washington Ball Room is under Vandalism litigation.  ICE murders are up a little bit but no-one has noticed so far.

Just so. While violent crime has fallen drastically over the past few decades, fraud and white collar crime is on the up and up, as is sexual assault.

I have a hunch the rise in sexual assault might be due to increased reporting, but do you know?

The current US president has been proven by juries of his peers to have committed all three crimes.

Now, I'm sure this is just a coincidence. I doubt this fact reflects on the American voters' will to have a mainstream crim as their leader.

No, far from it. Indeed, I suggest he's committed violent crime as well. One of the biggest unsolved mysteries of the Epstein case is his death. This was one of the reasons for the initial calls to release the Epstein files - the elite globalist cabal was still out there - those on the Epstein Client List, those with the money, power and means to have Epstein taken out in such a way as to leave no trace.

It may be hard to remember in the current US media climate of political shock and awe, but this whodunnit was at the heart of the original calls to release the files.

Who killed Epstein? Who had such means at their disposal? Who had the biggest motive? And who is now working their hardest to keep the files buried, blurred, redacted, politically weaponised, and ultimately, through the use of global invasions and threats, distracted from?

I put it to you there is only one man with the wherewithal, the means and the motive - only he.

You?

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 7:30pm:

Hi Karnal, I don't remember any of that - you must be making it all up. forgiven namaste

Not at all. What's another reason you might be pretending to have forgotten?

You'll need to address this, Bobby. A Democrat prez is looking pretty likely in three years time.

You'll be back to complaining about the murder rate  and forgetting you had this discussion too.

How do you think you might be able to remember? 

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 5:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 5:16pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 1:38pm: yep - thanks to Trump: https://realtimecrimeindex.com/ Sorry, Bobby, what was your response when the murder rate was shown to you during the last election? I believe you made a point about unreported violent crime, yes? All those unreported stiffs floating in the Hudson, all those unreported muggings, rapes, arson attacks and friends of Elon's mum getting harassed by ANTIFA - What did you have to say about them again? I can't remember that. Look - he's a wise man, he's a brave man, he has plans, he has wisdom. What are they gunna say when he's gone?

https://youtu.be/t4yejxttGdY

Leroy wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 7:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 7:30pm: Hi Karnal, I don't remember any of that - you must be making it all up. forgiven namaste Bobby don't disagree with him, it causes confusion and anger. Just go along with it.

Hi there, Leroy.

Is there anything you'd care to agree?

Karnal wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 7:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 7:30pm: Hi Karnal, I don't remember any of that - you must be making it all up. forgiven namaste Not at all. What's another reason you might be pretending to have forgotten? You'll need to address this, Bobby. A Democrat prez is looking pretty likely in three years time. You'll be back to complaining about the murder rate  and forgetting you had this discussion too. How do you think you might be able to remember?

No - Vance will reign if either Trump kicks the bucket or
when we get to next election -  November 7, 2028.

Pity - I never trusted men with beards - did you?
they always tell lies.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 7:46pm:

https://youtu.be/t4yejxttGdY

Yes - Trump is like Colonel Kurtz - they just misunderstand him.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 7:57pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 7:45pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 7:30pm: Hi Karnal, I don't remember any of that - you must be making it all up. forgiven namaste Not at all. What's another reason you might be pretending to have forgotten? You'll need to address this, Bobby. A Democrat prez is looking pretty likely in three years time. You'll be back to complaining about the murder rate  and forgetting you had this discussion too. How do you think you might be able to remember?  No - Vance will reign if either Trump kicks the bucket or when we get to next election -  November 7, 2028. Pity - I never trusted men with beards - did you? they always tell lies.

Sure, but are you willing to keep forgetting to cover for a guy like JD?

Be honest now, Bobby.

Karnal wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 7:57pm: No - Vance will reign if either Trump kicks the bucket or when we get to next election -  November 7, 2028. Pity - I never trusted men with beards - did you? they always tell lies. Sure, but are you willing to keep forgetting to cover for a guy like JD? Be honest now, Bobby.

Look - JD might be the kind of guy who tells fibs -

we can't have that can we?

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 8:04pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 8:02pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 7:57pm: No - Vance will reign if either Trump kicks the bucket or when we get to next election -  November 7, 2028. Pity - I never trusted men with beards - did you? they always tell lies. Sure, but are you willing to keep forgetting to cover for a guy like JD? Be honest now, Bobby. Look - JD might be the kind of guy who tells fibs - we can't have that can we?

It's a little hard to tell, Bobby. Would you prefer we forget if he is?

Karnal wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 8:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 8:04pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 8:02pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 7:57pm: No - Vance will reign if either Trump kicks the bucket or when we get to next election -  November 7, 2028. Pity - I never trusted men with beards - did you? they always tell lies. Sure, but are you willing to keep forgetting to cover for a guy like JD? Be honest now, Bobby. Look - JD might be the kind of guy who tells fibs - we can't have that can we? It's a little hard to tell, Bobby. Would you prefer we forget if he is?

We can only forgive just so many fibs.

Haven't you noticed that guys with beards are terrible fibbers?

Bobby. wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 8:11pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 8:07pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 8:04pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 8:02pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 7:57pm: No - Vance will reign if either Trump kicks the bucket or when we get to next election -  November 7, 2028. Pity - I never trusted men with beards - did you? they always tell lies. Sure, but are you willing to keep forgetting to cover for a guy like JD? Be honest now, Bobby. Look - JD might be the kind of guy who tells fibs - we can't have that can we? It's a little hard to tell, Bobby. Would you prefer we forget if he is? We can only forgive just so many fibs. Haven't you noticed that guys with beards are terrible fibbers?

Not really, Bobby. There's Moses, Jesus, Moh.

Kris Kristofferson, Kenny Rogers, the cop in the Village People.

Are you saying you don't trust JD? He's your 2IC, dear.

When DL goes, you're going to defenestrate him.

Karnal wrote on Jan 24^th, 2026 at 10:35pm:

Not really, Bobby. There's Moses, Jesus, Moh. Kris Kristofferson, Kenny Rogers, the cop in the Village People. Are you saying you don't trust JD? He's your 2IC, dear. When DL goes, you're going to defenestrate him.

I always think that men with beards are telling fibs.    :-[ https://images.axios.com/IbW2930vvOirFckdtjingesQ-xg=/0x0:4421x2487/1920x1080/2024/07/15/1721073625497.jpg

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2026 at 5:23am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 10:35pm: Not really, Bobby. There's Moses, Jesus, Moh. Kris Kristofferson, Kenny Rogers, the cop in the Village People. Are you saying you don't trust JD? He's your 2IC, dear. When DL goes, you're going to defenestrate him. I always think that men with beards are telling fibs.    :-[ https://images.axios.com/IbW2930vvOirFckdtjingesQ-xg=/0x0:4421x2487/1920x1080/2024/07/15/1721073625497.jpg

Excuse I, are you saying you don't trust your 2IC and next DL?

Please explain?

Karnal wrote on Jan 27^th, 2026 at 5:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 5:23am: Karnal wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 10:35pm: Not really, Bobby. There's Moses, Jesus, Moh. Kris Kristofferson, Kenny Rogers, the cop in the Village People. Are you saying you don't trust JD? He's your 2IC, dear. When DL goes, you're going to defenestrate him. I always think that men with beards are telling fibs.    :-[ https://images.axios.com/IbW2930vvOirFckdtjingesQ-xg=/0x0:4421x2487/1920x1080/2024/07/15/1721073625497.jpg Excuse I, are you saying you don't trust your 2IC and next DL? Please explain?

I can't trust him.      :-[

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2026 at 7:05pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 27th, 2026 at 5:50pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 5:23am: [quote author=Karnal link=1769225397/23#23 date=1769258135] Not really, Bobby. There's Moses, Jesus, Moh. Kris Kristofferson, Kenny Rogers, the cop in the Village People. Are you saying you don't trust JD? He's your 2IC, dear. When DL goes, you're going to defenestrate him. I always think that men with beards are telling fibs.    :-[ https://images.axios.com/IbW2930vvOirFckdtjingesQ-xg=/0x0:4421x2487/1920x1080/2024/07/15/1721073625497.jpg Excuse I, are you saying you don't trust your 2IC and next DL? Please explain?

I can't trust him.      :-[/quote]

Oh? So who?

Only he, eh?

We told you that to begin with, you silly old thing.

Karnal wrote on Jan 27^th, 2026 at 7:22pm:

[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1769225397/26#26 date=1769504733] I can't trust him.      :-[/quote] Oh? So who? Only he, eh? We told you that to begin with, you silly old thing.

He's no:
Moses, Jesus, Moh, Kris Kristofferson, Kenny Rogers or the cop in the Village People.    :-[

Quote:

Murder rate drops 20%

But it goes up 20% if they count the ICE murders.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2026 at 5:23am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 10:35pm: Not really, Bobby. There's Moses, Jesus, Moh. Kris Kristofferson, Kenny Rogers, the cop in the Village People. Are you saying you don't trust JD? He's your 2IC, dear. When DL goes, you're going to defenestrate him. I always think that men with beards are telling fibs.    :-[ https://images.axios.com/IbW2930vvOirFckdtjingesQ-xg=/0x0:4421x2487/1920x1080/2024/07/15/1721073625497.jpg

Calling JD Vance a man is a bit of a stretch, Bobby.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/akB6xuoyUMY/maxresdefault.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27^th, 2026 at 9:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2026 at 5:23am: Karnal wrote on Jan 24th, 2026 at 10:35pm: Not really, Bobby. There's Moses, Jesus, Moh. Kris Kristofferson, Kenny Rogers, the cop in the Village People. Are you saying you don't trust JD? He's your 2IC, dear. When DL goes, you're going to defenestrate him. I always think that men with beards are telling fibs.    :-[ https://images.axios.com/IbW2930vvOirFckdtjingesQ-xg=/0x0:4421x2487/1920x1080/2024/07/15/1721073625497.jpg Calling JD Vance a man is a bit of a stretch, Bobby. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/akB6xuoyUMY/maxresdefault.jpg

I think there is a rule that all conservative politicians must have at least one nice dress in their wardrobe.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27^th, 2026 at 9:29pm:

Calling JD Vance a man is a bit of a stretch, Bobby. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/akB6xuoyUMY/maxresdefault.jpg

Hi Greggy,
would vote for a President with a beard?