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Title: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by freediver on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 6:26am
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/21/trump-tariffs-nato-greenland-davos.html
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I bet the Taiwanese are shitting themselves right now. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by chimera on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 6:31am
Trump's offer to drop 56 nuclear bombs on Paris is being discussed with Macron and Putin. 2 bottles of champagne, some ICE and sour grapes and done deal.
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Bobby. on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 6:40am Wow - Trump is a wise man, he's a brave man, he has plans, he has wisdom. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 6:43am
He has the concepts of a plan? Fine with me because that means, like his health plan that he promised for a long time, nothing will come of it in the next three years and then he’s gone and forgotten. Glad to see that Europe standing up to this bully made him back down.
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by aquascoot on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 6:46am Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 6:40am:
Trump is an entertainer, he's a showman. He's got a hot wife. His kids and grandkids love him He's banked 2 billion since his election. Zuckerberg and bozos bend the knee to him He has changed the entire world. Ended woke Ended NATO Ended the UN. Is going to build a resort at Gaza. The guy is a human dynamo. And little worms on the internet try to troll him How hilarious 😂 |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 6:51am aquascoot wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 6:46am:
His wife, kids and grandkids love him because he’s got money. Come on, can you really see a former model like Melania marrying a slob like him if he didn’t have money? |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Bobby. on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 6:51am aquascoot wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 6:46am:
It's the Art of the Deal: https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-administration-news-01-21-26 26 min ago Trump says Greenland framework is an "infinite" deal From CNN's Kevin Liptak President Donald Trump described his framework plan for Greenland as an “infinite” deal, without providing specifics of what it entails. “It’s a long term deal. It’s the ultimate long term deal. And I think it puts everybody in a very good position,” Trump told CNN’s Kaitlan Collins as he was departing the Davos summit in Switzerland. Trump described it as a deal everyone is happy with, and that it met his requirements for controlling Greenland. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by chimera on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 7:01am aquascoot wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 6:46am:
'The total value of all Nazi-looted assets is impossible to precisely determine, as not all items have been found or cataloged, but estimates run into the hundreds of billions of dollars in modern terms.' No-one compares with the Hitler war machine. Genius. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Dnarever on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 7:04am
Trump once again backed away from illegal terriffs based on a no deal.
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Frank on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 7:21am
Nor can Trump’s designs on Greenland be reduced to a desire to grab its raw materials. Washington certainly is interested in many of those, which include not just rare-earth minerals, but also uranium, lithium and – important in modern weapons – gallium, germanium and graphite. At present, America buys most of these from the Chinese Communist Party. Moreover, the CCP’s restrictions on exports of graphite, relaxed for the moment, are set to be reintroduced in late November. No wonder the Pentagon, in particular, is interested in Greenland.
Yet the fact is that cold, inhospitable Greenland – complete with tricky geology, stormy winters and almost no infrastructure – is far from ideal territory for miners of raw materials. To quote the founder of the Arctic Institute, a security think-tank, ‘You might as well mine on the Moon. In some respects, it’s worse than the Moon.’ It takes, on average, 16 years’ expenditure to take a mine in Greenland from idea to results – and, last year, only one mine there was operational. .. Greenland and the Arctic sit above the whole Earth, not just the Western Hemisphere. This whole region forms a nexus of routes for Russian and Chinese missiles and trade freighters. Here, too, sea power is critical, as are undersea cables and drones. Moscow’s permanent Arctic fleet at Murmansk includes 41 icebreakers, which is 41 more than America has (some of the Kremlin’s are nuclear-powered, too). In warships, the CCP has a significant lead over the US Navy, both in numbers and the freshness of its fleet. Annexing Greenland, then, is for Washington not some Trumpian whim, but an imperative. .. This leads us to the US’s other geopolitical motivation – dealing with the Old World powers of Europe. As Brendan O’Neill has pointed out, Trump has used Greenland to let the world know that ‘after decades of living like welfare queens off of America’s military largesse’, Europe and Britain are impotent. Washington is furious with European leaders, as demonstrated by its anger towards its European NATO allies over their unwillingness to pay for their own defence. Last week, in a truly performative and inane pushback against Trump, Europe sent some Danish, German and French troops, plus a single British officer, to conduct and reinforce military exercises in Greenland. This enraged Washington, which took it as a confrontational rather than conciliatory move. In response, it threatened tariffs of 10 per cent on the exports of those countries involved in the exercises, rising to 25 per cent in June. The minuscule military resources Europe committed to Greenland were always going to irritate rather than impress Trump, let alone intimidate him. Even the EU’s counter-tariffs proposal against the US – worth some $100 billion – has only underscored Europe’s weakness. Indeed, it is now the subject of considerable debate in Brussels, with EU members like Netherlands, Ireland and even Germany voicing caution. Despite their lofty rhetoric, the Europeans are rarely unified and capable of acting in concert. America’s desire to conquer Greenland is not just about the whims of The Donald, nor even what lies under the ice there. Its considerations are truly strategic. It is about keeping Russia and China out. And in calling time on Europe, Washington has also started to relieve itself of what it deems an unreliable ally. What’s happening over Greenland has consequences for the entire world. James Woudhuysen is visiting professor of forecasting and innovation at London South Bank University |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by aquascoot on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 7:47am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 6:51am:
How on earth would YOU know ::) ::). Maybe she admires a guy who acts and doesn't sit at his keyboard "reacting" to another guy |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 7:54am
I'm guessing the European threat to dump hundreds of billions in US dollars and bonds had its intended effect on the US Congress, which probably guaranteed Trump's impeachment conviction and then the destruction of his family via legal pursuit lasting for years until they were all skint, in jail, or both.
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Bobby. on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:02am I watched Trump's entire speech at Davos - he made many good points. The USA is fed up with supporting NATO for 77 years and getting nothing back in return. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo2-q4AFh_g |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by chimera on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:19am
The US is no further ahead as Russia / China can be given a Canadian island. Canada has just visited China on the basis of a new world structure.
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:22am aquascoot wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 7:47am:
Yeah, he’s a real stand up guy, isn’t he? ;D |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:23am Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:02am:
The US gets nothing back in return? Are you sure about that? Did you forget that the one and ONLY time the defence clause has ever been invoked was for the US after the 9/11 attacks? I know for sure that Trump has forgotten, because his speeches say as much. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:40am |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by chimera on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:40am
What did Europe do when Trump stood alone against Renee Good? When the Venezuela Armada hit the beaches of Florida? When Hillary attacked the POTUS in 2016? eh.
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by aquascoot on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:44am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:22am:
So YOU don't like him. But 70 million people voted for him of which half were women . So 35 million women are Trump fans. Put your pic on tinder and tell us how many " likes" you get. Donny gets 30 million. I doubt you would get any. Then tell us again how unattractive he is ::) |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Leroy on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:45am aquascoot wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 7:47am:
One word describes it beautifully. Quote:
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by chimera on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:49am aquascoot wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:44am:
Tell us again not to be focussed on this man. Go on. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:03am
Everyone knows that Trump loves to be the centre of attention, to be fawned over. It must have been a colossal blow to his massive ego when his helicopter landed at Davos and not a single dignitary was there to greet him. Just a lonely walk by himself from the Marine Corps helicopter to his car. It’s good to see the Europeans refuse to stroke his ego. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:08am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 6:51am:
1. I've never heard any of his family say they love him. 2. Melania married him for a green card and money. She was purchased from an Eastern European mail-order bride organisation, and Epstein brokered the deal. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:08am aquascoot wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:44am:
He has no redeeming characteristics whatsoever. He is mean spirited and a bully who talks down to everyone around him. He thinks the world revolves around him and has an insatiable need to be the centre of attention. He’s certainly nothing to get excited about physically. He’s obese and wears copious amounts of orange makeup. You can’t seriously tell me that if he had never been President, never been born into a rich family, that if he put his ugly mug on Tinder that he’d get any attention, much less from a model. That’s the only reason Melania is with him. She wanted a certain lifestyle and he could provide it. It’s that simple. It’s not even a new thing. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Leroy on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:11am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:08am:
And of course you and sadroo pay him no attention at all. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:14am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:08am:
Exactly! He does not have a single redeeming feature. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Even Hitler loved animals. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:14am Leroy wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:11am:
Not true. We love pointing out when he lies and/or makes a complete ass of himself! :) |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:18am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:03am:
I haven't seen that video. I'm gonna look for it now - I could do with a good laugh :) |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Leroy on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:18am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:14am:
So your just a whinger. I used to work with a few people like you, were useless but could tell you everything their boss did wrong. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:22am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:18am:
Oh yeah, that's good :) Not one single person greeted him. Love it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hCziQzadEU |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:37am Leroy wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:18am:
Trump is the whinger. He’s complaining loudly about not getting the Nobel Peace Prize. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Leroy on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:39am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 9:37am:
And you are complaining loudly that Trump is complaining loudly, if only you were the boss. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Bobby. on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 1:33pm He got a deal - details to come - Trump is a genius. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 1:47pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 1:33pm:
He’s got the concepts of a framework… |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 1:52pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 1:47pm:
;D |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Bobby. on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 1:54pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 1:47pm:
Trump is a transactional person - with him - you make a deal - its called the art of the deal. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by chimera on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 2:02pm
Zelensky has been offered a house on the Polish border with radar and small nukes. The parliament can have the garage. Trump will pay the rent and provide 12 signed portraits of the 47th POTUS. Putin gets the veto in NATO HQ and 2 houses in Greenland with signed portraits of the 47th POTUS.
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 2:08pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 1:54pm:
Or you can do as the European leaders did and stand up to the bully and win! |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Dnarever on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 2:15pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 7:47am:
Trump was probably her best way to illegally get American citizenship ? She came on a no work visa, she worked. She was granted citizenship in a catagory she didn't qualify for. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Leroy on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 2:39pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 2:15pm:
Trump was a democrat then so it makes sense. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Bobby. on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 2:39pm Full transcript from Davos: https://globalnews.ca/news/11623027/read-full-transcript-donald-trump-speech-davos/ a small part of it: It’s the United States alone that can protect this giant, massive land, this giant piece of ice, develop it and improve it and make it so that it’s good for Europe and safe for Europe and good for us. And that’s the reason I’m seeking immediate negotiations to once again discuss the acquisition of Greenland by the United States, just as we have acquired many other territories throughout our history, as many of the European nations have acquired. There’s nothing wrong with it. Many of them, some went in reverse. Actually, if you look, some had great vast wealth, great vast lands all over the world. They went in reverse. They stuck back where they started. That happens too. But some grow. But this would not be a threat to NATO. This would greatly enhance the security of the entire alliance, the NATO alliance, the United States is treated very unfairly by NATO. I want to tell you that. And when you think about it, nobody can dispute it. We give so much and we get so little in return. And I’ve been a critic of NATO for many years, and yet I’ve done more to help NATO than any other president by far, than any other person. You wouldn’t have NATO if I didn’t get involved in my first term. What does the United States get out of all of this work? All of this money other than death, destruction, and massive amounts of cash going to people who don’t appreciate what we do, they don’t appreciate what we do. I’m talking about NATO, I’m talking about Europe. They have to work on Ukraine. We don’t. The United States is very far away. We have a big, beautiful ocean separating us. We have nothing to do with it. Until I came along, NATO was only supposed to pay two per cent of GDP, but they weren’t paying. Most of the countries weren’t paying anything. The United States was paying for virtually 100 per cent of NATO. And I got that stopped. I said, ‘that’s not fair.’ But then more importantly, I got NATO to pay five per cent and now they were paying and now they are paying. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by tallowood on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 4:05pm
There is no chance for building a mosque in Greenland now even when Europe accept Sharia law.
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Bobby. on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:10pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 2:08pm:
Wait till you see the deal first. ::) |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:33pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:10pm:
There was a Danish MP who came out today and said there is no deal, no framework and no agreement with Trump because NATO doesn’t have authority to negotiate on their behalf. So it’s just more lies from Trump to save face as he chickens out again in the face of EU leaders who refuse to capitulate to his childish bullying. |
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Title: Re: Trump announces 'framework' for arctic deal Post by Bobby. on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:38pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 22nd, 2026 at 8:33pm:
Stop calling Trump a liar - he's the leader of the free world - without him we wouldn't be here as we would already be in WW3. |
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