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Message started by Leroy on Jan 6th, 2026 at 6:48pm

Title: Greenland
Post by Leroy on Jan 6th, 2026 at 6:48pm
Who decides what direction Greenland could/will/should take.

Is it up to the people of Greenland or is it up to the people of Denmark.

If you have a national votes including both countries then the Danes have 100 votes to Greenlanders 1 vote. So Greenlanders only account for 1% of the population and 1% of the vote. If you only have Greenlanders vote then it could get messy as you only need 30,000 votes to change course. The prodding from Trump could see Denmark unsettle the Greenlanders with its entitlement. Does it come down to what Greenlanders want or what Denmark wants.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 6th, 2026 at 6:59pm
Land title flowed from the monarch in Denmark. He can resume land by signing a Bill. The issue is whether Trump's pen is bigger than the king's.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Leroy on Jan 6th, 2026 at 7:08pm

chimera wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 6:59pm:
Land title flowed from the monarch in Denmark. He can resume land by signing a Bill. The issue is whether Trump's pen is bigger than the king's.


I think the issue is bigger than that, in a democratic environment do the people of Greenland have the ability to choose or does Denmark have to the power to decide for them. Do other European countries honor the will of Greenlanders or do they align with Denmark's ownership. Of course this can only happen if Greenlanders entertain the prospect of joining America.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 6th, 2026 at 7:28pm
These things are usually decided by a majority vote overall, with drinks in the ship ward-room and the loser put to bed drunk. The US vote is :
Standard Missiles: Over 10,000 combined  9,100 SM-2. 400 SM-3. 1,500 SM-6.
Tomahawk : Around 4,150.
Denmark votes one or two Mk 41 and Mk 48 vertical launch systems, primarily using RIM-162 ESSM for air defense against missiles, aircraft, and drones. Denmark is in the process of acquiring three ESSM Block 2 missiles and also utilizes the SM-2 surface-to-air missile.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Leroy on Jan 6th, 2026 at 7:33pm

chimera wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 7:28pm:
These things are usually decided by a majority vote overall, with drinks in the ship ward-room and the loser put to bed drunk. The US vote is :
Standard Missiles: Over 10,000 combined  9,100 SM-2. 400 SM-3. 1,500 SM-6.
Tomahawk : Around 4,150.
Denmark has one or two Mk 41 and Mk 48 vertical launch systems, primarily using RIM-162 ESSM for air defense against missiles, aircraft, and drones. Denmark is in the process of acquiring three ESSM Block 2 missiles and also utilizes the SM-2 surface-to-air missile.


Missile count is not important, America used more aircraft in capturing Maduro than Denmark has in total. Denmarks ability to defend Greenland is NATO, not themselves. Greenlands defense relies on Denmark which relies on the US.

America have something to sell Greenland just by them cutting Denmark out of the loop. In reality Greenland depends on America for protection already. Do America have the right to address this situation.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 6th, 2026 at 7:42pm
Trump relies on the US to defend Greenland which has 28 planes including 1 Airbus. Denmark can rely on the US Navy which has a treaty with Maduro on a Caribbean cruise holiday. (The US is half of NATO, probably the NA part).

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by freediver on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:07pm
The Americans could just buy it.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Leroy on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:15pm

freediver wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:07pm:
The Americans could just buy it.


I suppose that's what I hinted at with the 30,000 votes required.
$7-14 billion could do that.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:42pm
'Queen Liliʻuokalani was Hawaii's last monarch, overthrown in 1893 by a coup supported by U.S. businessmen and U.S. Navy forces from the USS Boston, who landed troops to protect American interests, leading to the establishment of a provisional government and eventual U.S. annexation in 1898. The Queen peacefully surrendered to avoid bloodshed but protested the illegal overthrow, spending her later years advocating for Hawaiian rights and sovereignty, with the U.S. Congress issuing a formal apology for the overthrow in 1993.'

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by freediver on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:42pm
I mean pay off Denmark. It's how the USA got a lot of its territory.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:48pm
'The U.S. captured Guam in a swift and bloodless engagement in June 1898, during the Spanish-American War. The Spanish garrison, unaware that a state of war existed, mistook the American ship's initial cannon fire for a ceremonial salute and surrendered without resistance.'

'United States occupation of Haiti began on July 28, 1915, when 330 U.S. Marines landed at Port-au-Prince, Haiti, after the National City Bank of New York (now Citibank) convinced U.S. President Woodrow Wilson to take control of the country's political and financial interests.'

At that time, Germany was controlling part of France's political interests.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Frank on Jan 6th, 2026 at 9:15pm

freediver wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:07pm:
The Americans could just buy it.

Oh, but you can't just trade 60,000 Eskimos any more.

Denmark will manage Greenland jointly with the US. It is already happening. China will be kept out one way or another - that's the long and the short of it.

It's about China, not Greenland (population = Wagga Wagga)

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Daves2017 on Jan 6th, 2026 at 9:34pm
America might just make up a story and invade.
It’s  all been done before-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Frank on Jan 6th, 2026 at 9:44pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 9:34pm:
America might just make up a story and invade.
It’s  all been done before-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

Well America DID defend Greenland from the Nazis when Denmark was occupied by Germany, Was that an 'invasion' by America?


Now America wants to protect Greenland from the red nazis of China. Denmark is not doing it, nor the EU.


Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 7th, 2026 at 6:28am
Yes an invasion during war. Is Trump now fighting from Greenland against Putin?

The US is pushing its power onto Canada which is separating from the old dominance. Canada will link with Oz and claim sovereignty, in a loop of Greenland : Canada : US control.

'The mercurial and toxic American administration is forcing Canada to reconsider its security situation in general, and in the Far North specifically. With overt threats of annexation (economic or military) of Greenland and Canada for “security” reasons, Canada must now consider these issues without a historic, traditional American partner, and possibly in contradiction to American wishes'.
https://canadiandefencereview.com/canadian-sovereignty-is-on-thin-ice-arctic-sovereignty/

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:42am
Trump says the western hemisphere is his. This will be correct when he gets Greenland with its east coast at 23 degrees West.
Guam is at 144 East. The total range is 193 degrees, just over a hemisphere and bigger than Putin or Xi's empire.

If he takes Falkland Islands, South Africa and Aust, NZ, he may equal the British empire at 360 degrees.
Worth a try.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by tallowood on Jan 7th, 2026 at 11:07am
Greenland National Anthem by United States Navy Band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wehCVwKS1ac

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7th, 2026 at 1:44pm

freediver wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:42pm:
I mean pay off Denmark. It's how the USA got a lot of its territory.


Yep.

They bought Alaska from the Russians (in 1867, for $7.2 million).

I think the purchase of Greenland will probably happen.

Even if Trump dies this year - which is even more likely - the rest of his corrupt MAGA/Project 2025 team will push through with the takeover (after all, it's their plan not Trump's).

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by freediver on Jan 8th, 2026 at 2:02pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 9:15pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:07pm:
The Americans could just buy it.

Oh, but you can't just trade 60,000 Eskimos any more.


Sure you can. If Russia can invade Ukraine, the US and Denmark can agree to whatever they want.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 8th, 2026 at 2:06pm
Yes, Maduro fully agreed it was preferable to go peacefully, in the interests of Nobel Peace Prize and oil profits. Also, Crimea is peaceful by agreement that Ukraine isn't there any more.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Frank on Jan 10th, 2026 at 8:18pm
If cooperation or Greenlandic independence fails, a preventive EU troop deployment could avert a US confrontation on the island, German Green MEP Sergey Lagodinsky argues in an opinion article for Euronews.


;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Leroy on Jan 13th, 2026 at 7:38pm
This changes everything

https://youtube.com/shorts/OvKM9GVsc-w?si=buLiYvopBTjo7uGE

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by tallowood on Jan 15th, 2026 at 12:00pm
The real reason why US wants Greenland!!!

Acquiring Greenland could give the U.S. a powerhouse location to build the next generation of AI infrastructure.

Data centers generate a staggering amount of heat, and keeping them cool isn’t cheap. Traditional cooling methods eat up nearly 40% of a data center’s energy budget. But Greenland is naturally frigid year-round, which means AI companies could replace those enormous HVAC systems with fresh, and more importantly free arctic air. That’s a game changer.

Tech giants like Google and Microsoft are already experimenting with underwater and Nordic-region data centers for this exact reason. Greenland, with its subzero climate, could be the ultimate location for cold-weather server farms.


Title: Re: Greenland
Post by MattE on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:52pm
There is nothing Greenland or Denmark can do.

Even with the NATO deployment to Greenland, the United States Space Force base in Greenland has more personnel posted to it.

If the United States wanted to, it could declare Greenland a part of the United States and it would become part of the United States.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Dnarever on Jan 16th, 2026 at 9:42pm

MattE wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:52pm:
There is nothing Greenland or Denmark can do.

Even with the NATO deployment to Greenland, the United States Space Force base in Greenland has more personnel posted to it.

If the United States wanted to, it could declare Greenland a part of the United States and it would become part of the United States.


At one time supporters of the right would draw a line somewhere, at some disgusting insane point, at something so disgraceful but not any more. There is simply no limit to team authoritarian. Invading countries, unleashing the SS onto the streets or running an insurection, Anything at all is fair game.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Frank on Jan 16th, 2026 at 9:59pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 9:42pm:

MattE wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:52pm:
There is nothing Greenland or Denmark can do.

Even with the NATO deployment to Greenland, the United States Space Force base in Greenland has more personnel posted to it.

If the United States wanted to, it could declare Greenland a part of the United States and it would become part of the United States.


At one time supporters of the right would draw a line somewhere, at some disgusting insane point, at something so disgraceful but not any more. There is simply no limit to team authoritarian. Invading countries, unleashing the SS onto the streets or running an insurection, Anything at all is fair game.

:D :D ;D ;D ;D

You'd better watch it then, duckwit, so you don't end up as turducken at the next Leibstandarte SS Adolf Trumpitler banquet.




Title: Re: Greenland
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 17th, 2026 at 6:57am

MattE wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:52pm:
There is nothing Greenland or Denmark can do.

Even with the NATO deployment to Greenland, the United States Space Force base in Greenland has more personnel posted to it.

If the United States wanted to, it could declare Greenland a part of the United States and it would become part of the United States.


That's correct.

What the geriatric rapist & convicted felon in the White House is doing is ridiculous, and totally unnecessary, but if he really wants Greenland there's nothing that can stop him.


Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Dnarever on Jan 17th, 2026 at 8:07am

Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 9:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 9:42pm:

MattE wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:52pm:
There is nothing Greenland or Denmark can do.

Even with the NATO deployment to Greenland, the United States Space Force base in Greenland has more personnel posted to it.

If the United States wanted to, it could declare Greenland a part of the United States and it would become part of the United States.


At one time supporters of the right would draw a line somewhere, at some disgusting insane point, at something so disgraceful but not any more. There is simply no limit to team authoritarian. Invading countries, unleashing the SS onto the streets or running an insurection, Anything at all is fair game.

:D :D ;D ;D ;D

You'd better watch it then, duckwit, so you don't end up as turducken at the next Leibstandarte SS Adolf Trumpitler banquet.


So true.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Dnarever on Jan 17th, 2026 at 8:12am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17th, 2026 at 6:57am:

MattE wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:52pm:
There is nothing Greenland or Denmark can do.

Even with the NATO deployment to Greenland, the United States Space Force base in Greenland has more personnel posted to it.

If the United States wanted to, it could declare Greenland a part of the United States and it would become part of the United States.


That's correct.

What the geriatric rapist & convicted felon in the White House is doing is ridiculous, and totally unnecessary, but if he really wants Greenland there's nothing that can stop him.


Trumps illegal action in Venezuela is likely part of this Greenland potential invasion. With the armed forces willingly taking illigal orders in smaller actions would likely prepare the way for them to take more meaningful illegal orders, like an illegal invasion.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 17th, 2026 at 10:53am
There always was a fascist undercurrent from the revolution days of gun rights, Ku Klux Klan, wars on redskins and massacres, flags at every second house and fury at commies. A dictatorship seems more at home than trade discussions with other countries.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 17th, 2026 at 10:56am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17th, 2026 at 8:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17th, 2026 at 6:57am:

MattE wrote on Jan 16th, 2026 at 8:52pm:
There is nothing Greenland or Denmark can do.

Even with the NATO deployment to Greenland, the United States Space Force base in Greenland has more personnel posted to it.

If the United States wanted to, it could declare Greenland a part of the United States and it would become part of the United States.


That's correct.

What the geriatric rapist & convicted felon in the White House is doing is ridiculous, and totally unnecessary, but if he really wants Greenland there's nothing that can stop him.


Trumps illegal action in Venezuela is likely part of this Greenland potential invasion. With the armed forces willingly taking illegal orders in smaller actions would likely prepare the way for them to take more meaningful illegal orders, like an illegal invasion.


True, but I don't think it will come to that.

I think they'll just hand it over without a single shot being fired.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 17th, 2026 at 11:44am
On 30 June 1940, Inspector Sculpher of the Guernsey Island police went to the airport carrying a letter signed by the bailiff stating that "This Island has been declared an Open Island by His Majesty's Government of the United Kingdom. There are no armed forces of any description." He found that the airport had been taken over by the Luftwaffe... Lanz announced through an interpreter that Guernsey was now under German occupation'.

There was no fighting in the Channel Islands.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Jan 18th, 2026 at 12:01am
.. this just in on Farcebot ... no link.....

"Since 'Greenland' is showing up at the outrage party again, here's my take:
Greenland Is the Arctic Chessboard
Pay attention. This isn't noise. This isn't theater.
When Denmark and Greenland send envoys to the White House, then immediately route them to Marco Rubio, you're watching strategic execution, not speculation. That sequence signals intent, alignment, and a directive already in motion.
This is textbook Trump doctrine: apply quiet leverage, layer strategic pressure, then claim public resolve when the outcome is inevitable.
Why Greenland Matters (And Why Now)
Greenland isn't real estate. It's the fulcrum of 21st-century dominance.
What's at stake:
- Arctic control: Shipping lanes, missile defense positioning, and forward operating reach
- Energy security: Rare earth minerals, oil reserves, and resource independence
- Geopolitical chokepoint: Blocking Russian and Chinese Arctic expansion before they lock down the North Atlantic corridor
Whoever controls Greenland controls the high ground for the next century. Russia knows it. China knows it. That's why they're already responding with fury.
The Strategic Shift
For decades, America debated while adversaries moved. Trump inverts that model: move first, explain second, own the narrative last.
If this deal closes, the global chessboard redraws overnight:
- NATO security architecture hardens at the northern flank
- Chinese Belt and Road expansion hits a structural wall
- Russian Arctic ambitions shrink under U.S. forward presence
Why This Transcends Party Lines (If We Let It)
Here's what matters: this isn't a red-or-blue issue. This is an American strategic advantage that serves core priorities both parties claim to care about.
For those who prioritize national security and military strength:
Greenland gives the U.S. unmatched Arctic positioning, forward defense capability, and a permanent check on Russian and Chinese expansion. It's hard power. It's deterrence. It's exactly what "peace through strength" looks like in practice.
For those who prioritize climate leadership and clean energy:
Rare earth minerals are the backbone of renewable energy infrastructure: solar panels, wind turbines, and electric vehicle batteries. Right now, China controls 80% of global rare earth processing. Greenland changes that equation overnight. Securing those resources means we can build the green economy without being held hostage by adversarial supply chains.
For those who care about economic security and jobs:
Resource independence means American manufacturing, American jobs, and leverage over global supply chains. It means we stop importing what we could be producing. It means economic sovereignty, not dependence.
For those focused on diplomacy and alliances:
This isn't a conquest. It's a negotiation with a NATO ally. Done right, it strengthens the alliance, compensates Denmark fairly, respects Greenlandic autonomy, and creates a model for strategic cooperation that doesn't rely on coercion.
The Real Contradiction Isn't Left vs. Right
The contradiction is this: we fight each other over the aesthetics of leadership while ignoring whether the underlying strategy actually serves the country.
If a Democratic administration pursued Arctic resource security, NATO hardening, and rare-earth independence through diplomatic acquisition, the policy would be sound. The execution details would matter. The terms would matter. But the strategic logic would hold.
If a Republican administration does the same thing, the same logic applies.
The question isn't who proposed it. The question is whether it strengthens America's position for the next 50 years.
Right now, we are so divided over who is leading that we've stopped asking where we're being led and whether it's the right direction.
What Makes This Actually Good for the American People
Here's the test: Does this make us safer, more prosperous, and more resilient in a world where adversaries are moving faster than we are?
Yes.
- It secures the Arctic before Russia and China lock it down.
- It removes a critical supply chain vulnerability in rare earth minerals.
- It creates a forward defense perimeter that protects the homeland.
- It generates long-term economic value through resource development and strategic positioning.
This isn't imperialism. It's not recklessness. It's forward-thinking statecraft in a world where hesitation costs more than action.
The Division Is a Choice
We can fight about Trump's tone. We can argue about whether this feels right based on partisan reflex.
Or we can look at the chessboard, assess the stakes, and ask whether this move strengthens the country regardless of who made it.
The Arctic is being claimed right now. If we don't move, someone else will. And when they do, we'll spend the next century managing the consequences of our inaction.
This is one of those rare moments where the strategic interest aligns across ideological lines. The only thing stopping us from seeing it clearly is the noise we've created around everything else."

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:58am
The weakness is that Siberia remains next to Alaska. Nearby is North Korea, backed by China. And Afghanistan. Iran. Yemen. Somalia. Good grief, the whole thing is going to hell in a basket.
And what's between Alaska and Greenland? That's right, them. The Kevin Rudd mob. The Limeys.
We invade at dawn.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Captain Nemo on Jan 18th, 2026 at 9:40am
Will Americans wake up one day and realise that Trump is actually insane?  :-/

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 18th, 2026 at 9:50am

Captain Nemo wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 9:40am:
Will Americans wake up one day and realise that Trump is actually insane?  :-/


Half the country already knows that, but the other half are taking a long time to figure it out.

Slowly but surely the realisation is coming to them though.

He truly is insane, and dementia is just making things worse.




Title: Re: Greenland
Post by tallowood on Jan 18th, 2026 at 1:43pm
First arrest made


Title: Re: Greenland
Post by tallowood on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:29pm

Quote:
Today and yesterday, several countries sent their troops to help Greenland, namely:

🟠France - 15 troops.
🟠Germany - 13 troops.
🟠Sweden - 3 troops.
🟠Norway - 2 troops.
🟠Finland - 2 troops.
🟠United Kingdom - 1 troops.
🟠Netherlands - 1 troops.


Greta Thunberg sailed out of Valhalla on Valkyrie mission


Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Leroy on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:55pm
What does America offer Greenland that Denmark can't.

When to comes to security then America has more to offer, like 1500% more to offer, not 50% but 1500%.

When it come to commerce then America has a bigger economy thats over 75 times the size of Denmark.

Denmark is very confusing, on one hand they say they will never give up Greenland but at the same time say that Greenland can make its own determination.


Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Belgarion on Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:13pm

tallowood wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:29pm:

Quote:
Today and yesterday, several countries sent their troops to help Greenland, namely:

🟠France - 15 troops.
🟠Germany - 13 troops.
🟠Sweden - 3 troops.
🟠Norway - 2 troops.
🟠Finland - 2 troops.
🟠United Kingdom - 1 troops.
🟠Netherlands - 1 troops.

This NATO force is not there to fight. It is to make Trump think seriously about taking military action that could cause casualties among these allied troops and where that would lead. The thing is, Trumps thinking is ridiculous. The US has had bases in Greenland previously and a bit of diplomacy could have seen the early warning system previously in place expanded. Instead we have threats to invade allied territory that help no one except China and Russia.


Title: Re: Greenland
Post by Leroy on Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:22pm

Belgarion wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:13pm:

tallowood wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 2:29pm:

Quote:
Today and yesterday, several countries sent their troops to help Greenland, namely:

🟠France - 15 troops.
🟠Germany - 13 troops.
🟠Sweden - 3 troops.
🟠Norway - 2 troops.
🟠Finland - 2 troops.
🟠United Kingdom - 1 troops.
🟠Netherlands - 1 troops.

This NATO force is not there to fight. It is to make Trump think seriously about taking military action that could cause casualties among these allied troops and where that would lead. The thing is, Trumps thinking is ridiculous. The US has had bases in Greenland previously and a bit of diplomacy could have seen the early warning system previously in place expanded. Instead we have threats to invade allied territory that help no one except China and Russia.


A question remains though, what is the purpose of Greenland being governed by Denmark. American military is for the protection of Americans, why should the taxpayers of America foot the bill to protect Greenland whilst the Danes contribute nothing worthwhile. Trump has a point, disagree with him but why can't these questions be answered without total meltdowns.



Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:25pm
Greenland is HUGE especially on a flat map. With Canada, Trump will have 22mill sq kms where little Vlad Putin only has 17mill. He  has to sign up for peace in Ukraine. (and Venezuela too , we win so much)

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by tallowood on Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:30pm

Quote:
This NATO force is not there to fight.


It is not NATO force unless it was authorized by NATO command.

If they are not there to fight they can be safely ignored.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:33pm
The diplomatic result is that US is an enemy state of EU.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by tallowood on Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:40pm
The WOKE infected EU are enemies of common sense.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:42pm
Absolutely correct. They are however Europe, a group of humans on the planet Earth.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by tallowood on Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:49pm
Since they are Europe they should stay in Europe.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:52pm

tallowood wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:49pm:
Since they are Europe they should stay in Europe.


Since Trump is an American rapist and convicted felon, he should stay in America.


Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 18th, 2026 at 4:53pm
Yes we need to return from Australia. Also Putin will return from his migration westward.  Trump is almost a Red Indian.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by tallowood on Jan 18th, 2026 at 5:01pm

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 18th, 2026 at 5:06pm
Nice.
Donbass is in Europe.  they should stay in Europe. (tallowood 18/1 /2026)

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by tallowood on Jan 18th, 2026 at 5:14pm

chimera wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 5:06pm:
Nice.
Donbass is in Europe.  they should stay in Europe. (tallowood 18/1 /2026)


They are and the rest will be liberated from WOKE faggots too.

Greenland soon will be liberated from occupation by WOKE transpedos as well.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 18th, 2026 at 5:16pm
Russia
liberated
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**** error889***

close computer now.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by tallowood on Jan 18th, 2026 at 5:32pm

chimera wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 5:16pm:
Russia
liberated
Russia
libe
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**** error889***
close computer now.


Your gibberish indicates more of your brain damaged. Was it because second stroke or scratching your anus again?

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 18th, 2026 at 5:37pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 18th, 2026 at 12:01am:
.. this just in on Farcebot ... no link.....

"Since 'Greenland' is showing up at the outrage party again, here's my take:
Greenland Is the Arctic Chessboard
Pay attention. This isn't noise. This isn't theater.
When Denmark and Greenland send envoys to the White House, then immediately route them to Marco Rubio, you're watching strategic execution, not speculation. That sequence signals intent, alignment, and a directive already in motion.
This is textbook Trump doctrine: apply quiet leverage, layer strategic pressure, then claim public resolve when the outcome is inevitable.
Why Greenland Matters (And Why Now)
Greenland isn't real estate. It's the fulcrum of 21st-century dominance.
What's at stake:
- Arctic control: Shipping lanes, missile defense positioning, and forward operating reach
- Energy security: Rare earth minerals, oil reserves, and resource independence
- Geopolitical chokepoint: Blocking Russian and Chinese Arctic expansion before they lock down the North Atlantic corridor
Whoever controls Greenland controls the high ground for the next century. Russia knows it. China knows it. That's why they're already responding with fury.
The Strategic Shift
For decades, America debated while adversaries moved. Trump inverts that model: move first, explain second, own the narrative last.
If this deal closes, the global chessboard redraws overnight:
- NATO security architecture hardens at the northern flank
- Chinese Belt and Road expansion hits a structural wall
- Russian Arctic ambitions shrink under U.S. forward presence
Why This Transcends Party Lines (If We Let It)
Here's what matters: this isn't a red-or-blue issue. This is an American strategic advantage that serves core priorities both parties claim to care about.
For those who prioritize national security and military strength:
Greenland gives the U.S. unmatched Arctic positioning, forward defense capability, and a permanent check on Russian and Chinese expansion. It's hard power. It's deterrence. It's exactly what "peace through strength" looks like in practice.
For those who prioritize climate leadership and clean energy:
Rare earth minerals are the backbone of renewable energy infrastructure: solar panels, wind turbines, and electric vehicle batteries. Right now, China controls 80% of global rare earth processing. Greenland changes that equation overnight. Securing those resources means we can build the green economy without being held hostage by adversarial supply chains.
For those who care about economic security and jobs:
Resource independence means American manufacturing, American jobs, and leverage over global supply chains. It means we stop importing what we could be producing. It means economic sovereignty, not dependence.
For those focused on diplomacy and alliances:
This isn't a conquest. It's a negotiation with a NATO ally. Done right, it strengthens the alliance, compensates Denmark fairly, respects Greenlandic autonomy, and creates a model for strategic cooperation that doesn't rely on coercion.
The Real Contradiction Isn't Left vs. Right
The contradiction is this: we fight each other over the aesthetics of leadership while ignoring whether the underlying strategy actually serves the country.
If a Democratic administration pursued Arctic resource security, NATO hardening, and rare-earth independence through diplomatic acquisition, the policy would be sound. The execution details would matter. The terms would matter. But the strategic logic would hold.
If a Republican administration does the same thing, the same logic applies.
The question isn't who proposed it. The question is whether it strengthens America's position for the next 50 years.
Right now, we are so divided over who is leading that we've stopped asking where we're being led and whether it's the right direction.
What Makes This Actually Good for the American People
Here's the test: Does this make us safer, more prosperous, and more resilient in a world where adversaries are moving faster than we are?
Yes.
- It secures the Arctic before Russia and China lock it down.
- It removes a critical supply chain vulnerability in rare earth minerals.
- It creates a forward defense perimeter that protects the homeland.
- It generates long-term economic value through resource development and strategic positioning.
This isn't imperialism. It's not recklessness. It's forward-thinking statecraft in a world where hesitation costs more than action.
The Division Is a Choice
We can fight about Trump's tone. We can argue about whether this feels right based on partisan reflex.
Or we can look at the chessboard, assess the stakes, and ask whether this move strengthens the country regardless of who made it.
The Arctic is being claimed right now. If we don't move, someone else will. And when they do, we'll spend the next century managing the consequences of our inaction.
This is one of those rare moments where the strategic interest aligns across ideological lines. The only thing stopping us from seeing it clearly is the noise we've created around everything else."


Your take? (...excuse me for doubting you wrote it, I stand to be corrected...)

But why IS Trump alienating allies unnecessarily?

Ownership isn't necessary: the US has all its wants with the largest island in the South Pacific ie Oz.   




Title: Re: Greenland
Post by tallowood on Jan 18th, 2026 at 5:43pm

Quote:
But why IS Trump alienating allies unnecessarily?


Because the WOKE idiots alienated him interfering in US election on Democrats side.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 18th, 2026 at 6:01pm
Russians who move their lips are lying.
'In Moldova, Russian actors set up a massive vote-buying scheme that, coupled with similarly wide-ranging and targeted disinformation campaigns, came dangerously close to flipping the country’s EU referendum in Russia’s desired direction. In Georgia, the governing Georgian Dream party and their Russian allies used similar methods – combined with ballot-stuffing and voter intimidation – to secure a parliamentary majority that garnered criticism from the OSCE and international watchdogs. Even Georgia’s own (and now disputed) President, Salome Zourabichvili, refused to recognize the results as legitimate. And most recently, in Romania, the constitutional court annulled the first round of the presidential elections after allegations of a massive Russia-funded information campaign in favor of the far-right, anti-NATO candidate Călin Georgescu.'

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by tallowood on Jan 18th, 2026 at 6:10pm
chimera anus zapekanus. The beginning  :o


Title: Re: Greenland
Post by chimera on Jan 19th, 2026 at 7:58am
The Danish Nazi Party will soon sign a peace treaty with US but is demanding to have NATO troops as peace keepers. When Greenland gets US gun rights the shootings will explode. Trump says he will ask Putin but thinks Greenland should be deported by ICE to Denmark.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by tallowood on Jan 20th, 2026 at 2:57pm
It is time when sun returns to Greenland after polar night.

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by tallowood on Jan 20th, 2026 at 2:59pm

tallowood wrote on Jan 20th, 2026 at 2:57pm:
It is time when sun returns to Greenland after polar night.




Here come the Sun King
Here come the Sun King
Everybody's laughing
Everybody's happy
Here come the Sun King

Title: Re: Greenland
Post by John_Taverner on Jan 20th, 2026 at 4:25pm

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