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General Discussion >> America >> ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1767526059 Message started by mothra on Jan 4th, 2026 at 9:27pm |
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Title: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by mothra on Jan 4th, 2026 at 9:27pm
‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenland as Denmark protests
US president cites national security as rationale for his efforts to take control of the self-governing Arctic island. United States President Donald Trump has stepped up his campaign to take over Greenland, declaring the Danish territory essential to Washington’s national security and appointing a special envoy he said would “lead the charge”. Trump’s comments on Monday came as the leaders of Denmark and Greenland protested against remarks by the new envoy, Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry, who said he would make the Arctic territory “a part of the US”. Speaking to reporters at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida, Trump reiterated his position that Greenland is vital to US defence interests. “We need Greenland for national security, not for minerals,” the US president said. “If you take a look at Greenland, you look up and down the coast, you have Russian and Chinese ships all over the place… We have to have it.” The remarks followed Trump’s Sunday announcement of Landry’s appointment, in which he praised the governor for understanding “how essential Greenland is to our national security”. Landry subsequently posted on X that it was “an honour to serve… in this volunteer position to make Greenland a part of the US”, adding that the role would not affect his gubernatorial duties. Landry’s statement drew a sharp rebuke from Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen and Greenland’s prime minister, Jens-Frederik Nielsen, who issued a joint statement asserting that “Greenland belongs to Greenlanders”. “You cannot annex another country. Not even with an argument about international security,” they said. “The US shall not take over Greenland.” Nielson wrote separately on Facebook that the US moves “may sound big, but it does not change anything for us”. “We decide our own future,” he said. Frederiksen added in an Instagram post, “It is a difficult situation that our allies for a lifetime are putting us in.” Earlier on Monday, Danish Minister of Foreign Affairs Lars Lokke Rasmussen said he would summon US envoy Kenneth Howery to express his country’s deep anger over Landry’s appointment. Rasmussen also called the governor’s comments on annexing Greenland “totally unacceptable”. The Trump administration also put further pressure on Copenhagen on Monday, when it suspended leases for five large offshore wind projects being built off the East Coast of the US, including two being developed by Denmark’s state-controlled Orsted. The European Union, meanwhile, swiftly rallied behind Denmark. European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen and European Council President Antonio Costa declared “full solidarity” with Copenhagen and emphasised that “territorial integrity and sovereignty are fundamental principles of international law”. Trump, who returned to the White House in January, has repeatedly declared that the US “needs” the resource-rich island and declined to rule out the use of military force to secure it. The self-governing territory, which lies between Europe and North America, hosts a key US ballistic missile defence system and has substantial mineral deposits, which could reduce US reliance on Chinese exports. According to an opinion poll conducted in January, the vast majority of Greenland’s 57,000 people want to become independent from Denmark, but they do not wish to become part of the US. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/23/we-have-to-have-it-trump-renews-greenland-push-as-denmark-lodges-protest |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 4th, 2026 at 9:34pm
Greenland is the size of SA and the NT combined, with a population of Wagga Wagga.
It could never be an independent country. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by mothra on Jan 4th, 2026 at 9:37pm Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 9:34pm:
Even selling out Denmark to Trump, eh fruitbat? No surprises. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 4th, 2026 at 9:43pm mothra wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 9:37pm:
How are those facts 'selling out'?? Do you have ANY integrity or are you just another f***wit briming with agit-prop? No, yes. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by mothra on Jan 4th, 2026 at 10:09pm Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 9:43pm:
:o .... ;D |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by tallowood on Jan 5th, 2026 at 12:11pm French propose to give up Greenland without resistance in exchange for unconditional protection for Ukraine Will French arrest King Frederik X and Queen Mary if Denmark refuse to give Greenland? If so: should Australia protest as Queen Mary is Australian born? |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 5th, 2026 at 12:27pm tallowood wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 12:11pm:
The French are daft, once again. Germany's unconditional protection of Austria and Russia's unconditional protection of Serbia led to WWI. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Jasin on Jan 5th, 2026 at 2:35pm
Greenland is an island of spongers who will sell out to any country.
Trump is just putting in his bid at the ongoing Auction. The Inuit are racists too. They want their tobacco and grog from other countries but don't want white people living there. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by chimera on Jan 5th, 2026 at 2:42pm
If Donald doesn't arrest Greenland, some other crim will grab it. The population of Mar a Lago will be overjoyed when Greenland is liberated.
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Jasin on Jan 5th, 2026 at 2:45pm
Watch those Greenland Inuit programs on NITV and they express their dislike of white Norse Denmark feeding them and providing for them.
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:02pm Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 9:43pm:
No greater tell that you're waving a white flag than your quick jump to personal attacks and insults. You surrender quicker than a tiny dog set free in a dog park who rolls over and pisses on his own belly when face to face with a bigger dog. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Jasin on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:11pm
Sad Kangaroo didn't check Trivago
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:52pm
It will never ever happen, no matter how much Trump complains. Denmark is part of NATO and there's no way Trump will move against an ally in NATO. There's more chance of Trump jumping from the roof of the White House than him invading or taking over Greenland.
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by aquascoot on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:53pm
The arctic is being extensively colonized by the Chinese and the russians.
Trumps duty is to safeguard american access to the minerals and resources of the arctic. He offered to buy greenland. Sounds like a very strategic move |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:59pm Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 9:34pm:
Really? So which country does the territory of Greenland belong to, old chap? Please explain? |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:01pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:53pm:
Sure does. And what did the owners say? |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by chimera on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:18pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:53pm:
He has Alaska as a state. Otherwise, Airport Road, Maine is his northern boundary. Trump Tower is his. Venezuela and Greenland belong to another guy. Federal law says larceny, broadly defined as stealing property is wrongful taking. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 5th, 2026 at 7:57pm Karnal wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:59pm:
Oh?! It 'belongs to, eh? Colonialism hasn't ended too soon after all. Salute the master, paki.. The Order of the Elephant is complete with jigaboo. That's the spirit. Holger Danske. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Bobby. on Jan 5th, 2026 at 7:58pm If Trump has to have it then he must have it. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:06pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:52pm:
They used to say Trump will never be president, how did that go?. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Oczyk6nCw |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:35pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:52pm:
Thank you for supporting Danish colonialism. 💪💪💪 |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:53pm Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 7:57pm:
No no, I asked you which country Greenland belongs to. Please explain? We'll need a name. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:55pm
People have to learn, if Donald says he wants something he won't tell you what he wants, he will tell he wants something else and settle for what he wants. You lefties are not that bright.
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:58pm Karnal wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:53pm:
Belongs to in the colonial sense, paki arse sniffer. There is no other sense in which it can 'belong', ya gibbering paki. Suddenly, you are all for colonialism continuing. Thank you for standing up for Danish colonialism, paki. Ten rupee and a banana. Have two. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:04pm Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:58pm:
Sorry, are you saying you won't say which country Greenland belongs to, or you can't? Why would that be, Frank? |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:12pm Karnal wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:04pm:
You were grimacing inconsolably when I said colonialism ended too soon. Now you are very eager for Danish colonialism to continue and NOT end. Thank you for your support, paki, I will always remember it. It can be hard to justify colonialism in this age but you and I agree for once - Danish colonialism is a GOOD THING. Thank you. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:18pm Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:12pm:
You can't give a straight answer, can you? I do feel you may have English as a second language. It's the only explanation one can assume for your verbose incredulity. May one ask which country you're from? Cheers. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:24pm Karnal wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:18pm:
Are blind, not just a stupid arse sniffer, paki?? |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:37pm Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:24pm:
You really don't want to provide a simple answer, do you? Look, I'm curious. Why are you highlighting verbs and playing no-speaka? Why won't you provide a simple answer to the question? Is there something you're trying to to hide here? |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Dnarever on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:41pm
One very dangerous nut.
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:42pm Karnal wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:37pm:
Danish is not a verb, illiterate no-speaka paki. Not even in Urdu. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:47pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:41pm:
Not you, duckwit??!! :D :D |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:54pm Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:42pm:
Good point, dear boy, it's an adjective. University of Balogney, innit. We'll start again. What's the correct noun? |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Brian Ross on Jan 6th, 2026 at 10:13am |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by tallowood on Jan 6th, 2026 at 10:33am
MGGA - MakeGreenlandGreenAgain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSLcyeC-P7w |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by tallowood on Jan 6th, 2026 at 1:47pm
"The US cannot harm us more than Denmark has done" - Leader of the opposition in Greenland
Quote:
https://www.hashtag.al/en/index.php/2026/01/05/shba-ja-smund-te-na-demtoje-me-shume-se-cka-bere-danimarka-kreu-i-opozites-ne-groenlande/ |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 6th, 2026 at 2:48pm tallowood wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 1:47pm:
Oh, I don't know about that, dear. No free health care, welfare subsidies, free university or EU markets for all their lovely fish. The US would harm them ever so. Your pollie's not expressing his views to your DL, he's sharing them with wonderful wonderful Copenhagen, the capital of er... Old boy? How's your geography? |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Jasin on Jan 6th, 2026 at 2:57pm
Greenland is in North America, not Europe.
We can see Europe's over-reach at first base for starters. Denmark should end it's occupation of North America. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Bobby. on Jan 6th, 2026 at 2:58pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 10:13am:
Nonsense because Putin would love to invade Denmark. ::) |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Jasin on Jan 6th, 2026 at 3:01pm
Imagine if Denmark owned Tasmania.
They already stole a Real Estate agent to be their Queen. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 6th, 2026 at 3:05pm Jasin wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 2:35pm:
Sell out? Not exactly: (google) A January 2025 poll found that 56% of Greenlanders would vote "yes" if an independence referendum were held immediately. The same poll indicated that 45% of the population would oppose independence if it resulted in a lower standard of living. Quote:
Hardly a "bid" when you are laying claim to ownership before the bidding starts. Quote:
Yes, blind adherence to one's "culture" can result in failure to advance well-being. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 6th, 2026 at 3:07pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 2:58pm:
And start WW3 against the US as his main opponent? |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Bobby. on Jan 6th, 2026 at 3:11pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 3:07pm:
Noooooooooo - if Denmark leaves NATO - Putin will invade it. ::) |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Jasin on Jan 6th, 2026 at 3:11pm
Greenland gets independence.
Not long after they start asking the UN for Aid and the USA Democrats for handouts. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by tallowood on Jan 6th, 2026 at 3:14pm Karnal wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 2:48pm:
An estimated 4,500 women and girls, some as young as 12, had IUDs inserted without their informed consent or that of their parents. This represented approximately half of the fertile female population in Greenland at the time. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 6th, 2026 at 3:20pm tallowood wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 10:33am:
Very funny..was Greenland green once?... But it IS close to Canada, which Trump also wants, no doubt to rival Russia in land area, and specifically, command of the Artic. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by tallowood on Jan 6th, 2026 at 3:49pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 3:20pm:
Yes, Greenland was Green in the Viking Times Trump wants to save Greenland from evil WOKE criminals who did this: Quote:
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by chimera on Jan 6th, 2026 at 4:20pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 3:11pm:
The distance is 1/4 the distance to Venezuela. Putin can land 4 times the number of troops in Denmark that he sent to defend Maduro. 'One analysis placed the total value of Greenland's resources (including oil/gas, though exploration is banned) at around $200 billion, with specific minerals like coal, chromium, and feldspar valued in the billions'. Each settlement can be held by 1 frigate with machine guns. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 6th, 2026 at 4:49pm tallowood wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 3:14pm:
True, but have you checked to see what Vlad's inserted in you? It could self destruct any minute now, dear. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6th, 2026 at 4:56pm tallowood wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 3:14pm:
Ah. Now we know why Trump's interested in Greenland. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 6th, 2026 at 4:59pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 4:56pm:
Oo-er. No need to pay for the abortion, eh? Now that's gotta be worth invading. ENDLESS WARS !!! |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by chimera on Jan 6th, 2026 at 6:39pm
There should be no surprise about Trump's expansion. The US has invaded and colonised Pacific Islands (Hawaii, Philippines, Guam, etc) and Puerto Rico etc. It bought territory from other colonial powers and now assumes regime change is the US privilege in any (weaker) country. The US is an empire blowing the trumpets of democracy and has been since the 13 British settlements expanded into Indian proclaimed lands. If Trump gains acreage then that makes his empire greater in area.
Trump and Putin. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Dnarever on Jan 6th, 2026 at 7:31pm Quote:
Greenland "My Precious" Donald Smeagol - The Gollum Trump |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:12pm
Where's the old boy?
Strange. He seems to have disappeared - poof! Oh well, there goes the Motherland. DL simply must have it, no? |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:19pm Karnal wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 4:59pm:
That's enough moronic arse sniffing, paki. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:41pm Frank wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:19pm:
Oh look, he's back. Good show. Here we go. Ahem, which country rules Greenland, dear chap? You forgot to say. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 6th, 2026 at 9:07pm Karnal wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:41pm:
It is not as simple as your sniffing of arses, paki. https://www.clingendael.org/pub/2020/presence-before-power/4-greenland-what-is-china-doing-there-and-why/ |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 6th, 2026 at 9:19pm Frank wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 9:07pm:
Right, so we'll ask you again. Which country rules Greenland, dear chap? |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 6th, 2026 at 9:42pm
Oh look - he's gone.
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 7th, 2026 at 9:10am Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:35pm:
I'm not supporting anything other than the fact that Trump should not act against Greenland in any way - especially militarily. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7th, 2026 at 9:28am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:52pm:
Really? I think it's inevitable. There's absolutely nothing standing in his way. I don't agree with it, but I don't see how he can be stopped. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by chimera on Jan 7th, 2026 at 9:42am
I blame it all on the Congress invasion Jan 6th.
Trump may grant himself the Congressional Medal of Honour. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 7th, 2026 at 9:45am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 9:10am:
Well, the US defended Greenland against Nazi Germany when Denmark and Norway were occupied. The US has a military presence in cooperation with Denmark (not NATO). China is interested in Greenland for its natural resources. As is the EU for the same reason. The EU relies on China for rare earth needed for the European defence industry. The US will not invade Greenland militariy as long as China is kept away. The moment Greenland or Denmark opens the door to China the US will seize Greenland. But that scenario (Greenland or Denmark preferencing China over the US) is very unlikely although not impossible. The Greenland issue is brought to you by the words 'strategic' and 'competition' and the number 57,000 (the popuation of Greenland and Wagga Wagga). |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:01am chimera wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 9:42am:
I know one thing for certain - short of a colossal falling out with Trump, Hegseth, Bondi, Noem, Gabbard, Rubio and Vance will all be receiving pre-emptive pardons for Federal crimes they've committed during his administration from Trump prior to the next Presidential election in November 2028. That's a given. I'd go as far as saying Trump may even pardon himself just to be safe. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:07am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:01am:
I'd say those pardons have already been issued. There's no requirement for Presidential pardons to be made public, so I'm pretty confident all of the criminals you mentioned have already received their get out of jail free cards. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:30am Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 9:45am:
We know you don't like questions, dear boy, but kindly inform the leftards here whether you support your DL seizing Greenland. Cheers. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by tallowood on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:44am
Whale hunting & traditonal Inuit kayaking in Greenland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uR3-BMbQwQ |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by chimera on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:47am
"Eskimo" refers to Inuit and Yupik peoples around the Bering Strait, a geographic link between Siberia & Alaska, known for shared traditions, connected by the sea'.
West Alaska (Russian 'Urals') is American, with China owning the southern snow fields to the Volga. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by tallowood on Jan 7th, 2026 at 11:50am Eskimo pie on stick is Obamka |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 7th, 2026 at 2:19pm Karnal wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:30am:
Interesting question. But perhaps Trump can avoid the ire of the 'woke' world by taking a leaf out of Xi's book, eg, Xi intends to reunite Taiwan with China - by force if necessary, the catalyst for which will be a DPP declaration of independence which the US and most of the UN won't support, and Trump himself wants to avoid WW3. Otoh, Trump already has military bases in Greenland - a NATO territory, so he doesn't need to declare sovereignty over Greenland. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 7th, 2026 at 2:39pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 2:19pm:
Just so, Great. What do you think, old boy? Xi's planning a cunning little reunification of Taiwan, now part of the People's Republic of Chi-na. Xi needs it! Will you be supporting this one too? Cheers. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Bobby. on Jan 7th, 2026 at 8:05pm Karnal wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 2:39pm:
Look - Trump has gotta have it - OK? |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 7th, 2026 at 8:11pm
Well, the US defended Greenland against Nazi Germany when Denmark and Norway were occupied.
The US has a military presence in cooperation with Denmark (not NATO). China is interested in Greenland for its natural resources. As is the EU for the same reason. The EU relies on China for rare earth needed for the European defence industry. The US will not invade Greenland militariy as long as China is kept away. The moment Greenland or Denmark opens the door to China the US will seize Greenland. But that scenario (Greenland or Denmark preferencing China over the US) is very unlikely although not impossible. The Greenland issue is brought to you by the words 'strategic' and 'competition' and the number 57,000 (the popuation of Greenland and Wagga Wagga). |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:09pm Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 8:11pm:
I see. So what do you think of your DL, you know, promising to take Greenland? |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Jan 7th, 2026 at 11:05pm |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 7th, 2026 at 11:36pm
If the US makes a move on Greenland, Germany, the UK and other NATO allies have to fight them, if they don't it effectively signals the end of NATO.
It's effectively Russia's wet dream. If Trump goes ahead with this he's effectively cutting ties with the rest of the world. It will cause irreparable damage to the US and destabilise the entire global economy and global stability. We knew Trump would be an insane lunatic but even this is worse than even the most dire positions. Yet the faithful idiots keep cheering this on. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 8th, 2026 at 6:57am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 11:36pm:
:D :D :D Yeah, right, deranged, silly little teapot. The Europeans, who dithered over Yugoslavia, Ukraine since 2014 and their own massive invasion since 2015 will suddenly grow a spineless, find their spirit and 'fight' the US pronto! Led by Starmer and Merz! |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:01am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 11:36pm:
NATO will do nothing except clutch their pearls - they can't function without the Yanks. I know a person who worked at a US NATO air base in Germany. They said the air power was awesome and could be called at a moments notice. Europe has nothing that can compare to it. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:02am Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 6:57am:
You're calling me deranged, yet you're casually endorsing the idea of Trump seizing Greenland as if it's trivial. That leaves two possibilities. Either you're so ignorant of what's actually at stake that you don't even grasp the consequences, or you do grasp them and simply don't care, because cult loyalty demands you defend whatever Trump does, no matter how reckless or destructive it is. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by chimera on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:04am Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 6:57am:
That's the point, do you see? Trump is ending NATO. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:09am Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:01am:
This misses the point of NATO entirely. NATO isn't a mercenary air force Europe "borrows" from the US. It's a mutual defence treaty. If the US becomes the aggressor, especially against a NATO-adjacent territory like Greenland via Denmark, the entire legal and political logic of the alliance breaks. Yes, US air power is formidable. That's irrelevant. NATO isn't about who has the biggest planes, it's about trust, deterrence, and shared commitments. Once the US shows it's willing to invade or annex allied territory, it ceases to be the alliance's anchor and becomes its primary risk. At that point NATO doesn't "clutch pearls", it fractures. Europe doesn't need to outgun the US to respond, it needs to stop relying on it, rearm independently, and build security structures that exclude an unpredictable and hostile Washington. If your argument is "America is too powerful to be constrained by alliances", congratulations, you've just described the behaviour NATO was created to defend against. The difference is that this time it isn't a dictator-led communist superpower. It's Donald Trump, and it's the United States itself that has become the threat to global stability. A lot of you MAGA types here are going to owe a great many people an apology for the abuse you hurled at them during the election, when you were warned that Trump would govern like a dictator. Those warnings weren't hysterical, they were accurate. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:09am chimera wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:04am:
Exactly. Just like Putin wanted. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:14am chimera wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:04am:
:D :D |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:16am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:09am:
You're a dreamer. The US has a $trillion dollar defence budget - their air force now has built up over the last 50 years and more. Europe can't ever hope to match the Yanks. They need the Yanks - now more than ever before and Trump knows it, so he know he can get away with taking Greenland. Analogy - telling your boss to go and get stuffed when you have a mortgage and a wife and kids to look after - and no other job to go to. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by chimera on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:18am
ah no, it's googly eyes. Frank can't see.
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by chimera on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:22am Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:16am:
'Donald Trump, the front-runner for the Republican Party's nomination this year, says he once warned that he would allow Russia to do whatever it wants to NATO member nations that are "delinquent" in devoting 2 percent of their gross domestic product to defense.' He wants Venezuela and Greenland. Not Belgium and Albania. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:24am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 11:36pm:
That's what worries me most. Trump is behaving like Putin's lackey. Almost everything he's done has been beneficial or at least not harmful to Putin. Just look at how he (Trump) handles Ukraine. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:46am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:24am:
When Putin says "jump", Trump obeys without question. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:51am
America doesn't "need" Greenland. They already have facilities there. It's not about defence, it's all about one thing only. Mineral resources that Trump wants to gain access to in order to personally enrich himself. That's all it is, literally.
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:58am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:51am:
Exactly. Trump doesn't do something unless he benefits directly from it. That's his one and only concern. Well, that and screwing his own daughter. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 8th, 2026 at 8:00am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:58am:
… and anyone who voted against him (he literally cut off federal funding for clean water to one town or state because they voted against him) or who oppose him politically. This is how he’s treating Colorado for voting against him three elections in a row… https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/us/politics/trump-veto-water-project-colorado.html |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Leroy on Jan 8th, 2026 at 8:12am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:24am:
Yeah, there is no way a dem leader would allow Putin to build up his forces on the Ukraine border and then invade, the dems would have put Putin in his place. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 8th, 2026 at 8:17am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:51am:
That and strategic position. And most importantly, that Russia and China be totally exclused. The US expressed unterest in acquiring Greenland after WWII when the Soviet rivalry was real. Now it is the Chinese and Russians |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 8th, 2026 at 8:27am Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 8:17am:
The U.S. (and NATO, effectively) already have strategic position there. It is NATO territory and the U.S. already has a military presence there, a considerable one. Don’t be fooled by Trump - he’s only interested in Greenland because of mineral deposits, nothing more. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 8th, 2026 at 8:51am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 8:27am:
Take off the blinkers, pal. Your 'it's only' and 'nothing more' stance is idiotic and reeks of TDS. Defence & Security Missile defense & space monitoring The US operates Pituffik Space Base (formerly Thule Air Base), which hosts radar systems critical to missile detection, space tracking and homeland defence. Control of key sea lanes Greenland anchors the GIUK Gap (Greenland–Iceland–UK), a strategic chokepoint used to monitor naval and submarine movement between the Arctic and Atlantic. Great power competition As Russia and China expand their Arctic presence, the US sees Greenland as key to maintaining Western influence and limiting rivals’ access to Arctic resources and infrastructure. Longstanding military role Greenland has been central to US defence strategy since World War II and the Cold War, a role now growing as Arctic tensions rise. Strategic Arctic location Greenland sits between North America and Europe, along the shortest routes for missiles and aircraft, making it vital for early warning and surveillance Natural Resources Rare earth elements & critical minerals Essential for electronics, renewable energy, batteries, electric vehicles, and military technology — areas where the US wants to reduce reliance on China. Uranium & industrial metals Significant uranium, iron and base metal reserves could support nuclear energy, defence needs and large-scale manufacturing. Oil and gas potential Offshore Arctic regions may contain oil and natural gas, offering long-term energy security, though development is difficult and controversial. Freshwater & renewable energy Greenland’s ice sheet contains vast freshwater reserves, alongside strong hydropower and wind potential as the climate warms https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/nato-or-bust-not-everyone-hates-trumps-greenland-takeover/news-story/1407e61f32c342e8c021edbef28ea3b2 |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2026 at 8:54am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 8:27am:
Frank is easily fooled. You're 100% correct: it's all about Trump, not security. After all these years Frank still hasn't learnt. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by tallowood on Jan 8th, 2026 at 9:11am
The concept of American Technate is nearly hundred years old
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Frank on Jan 8th, 2026 at 9:13am
The US Virgin Islands used to be called the Danish West Indies. THe Gunea cost in Africa was called the Danish Gold Cost before it was sold to the British in 1850.
The Danish West Indies were bought for $25 Million a hundred years ago because strategically these islands were more important for the US at the time than Greenland due to teir proximity to the panama canal. Part of the deal was the US ceding the whole of Greenland to Denmark. After WWII the US wanted to buy Greenland because of its strategic position for interccontinental bombers flying between te Soviet Union and the US. Instead of selling it outright, Denmark facilitated a bilateral agreement giving the US military access. So strategic interest in Greenland predates economic interests by decades. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 8th, 2026 at 9:50am Karnal wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:09pm:
Frank? |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 8th, 2026 at 9:57am Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 9:50am:
Patience. He's asking Trump for advice. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by tallowood on Jan 8th, 2026 at 10:21am tallowood wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 9:11am:
You may read about Technocracy here Quote:
https://ia601603.us.archive.org/1/items/TechnocracyStudyCourse1945/TechnocracyStudyCourse-1945.pdf |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by chimera on Jan 8th, 2026 at 10:30am
After moving to an island off the coast of western Iceland, Erik the Red had a dispute with a man named Thorgest over some prized wooden beams. Erik took the beams back by force, and some oil in barrels, which led to a fight. This resulted in Erik being declared an outlaw and banished from Iceland for three years by the local Congress (Althingi), a common punishment for manslaughter in Norse society.
During his three-year exile from Iceland around 982 AD, Erik the Red decided to sail west to a land that had been sighted earlier but never successfully colonized. He explored the ice-free fjords and coastal meadows of the new land, which he named "Greenland" as a marketing ploy to attract future settlers, hoping the appealing name would entice people to join him in his real estate empire. His son was Donald the Orange. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by tallowood on Jan 8th, 2026 at 11:12am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiWshRDNm4g
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 8th, 2026 at 11:20am Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 9:13am:
Good to see you presenting informative, factual posts. It's a pity you ...oh never mind. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 8th, 2026 at 11:48am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 9:57am:
Impossible. Frank likes Danish. He's a true patriot, you see. Frank refuses to assimilate here because he loves the Motherland ever so. It's core to his superior culture, his virtue, his entire way of being, always absolutely never ever. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 8th, 2026 at 11:50am thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 11:20am:
Never mind, Great. Frank's just been brushing up on his superior culture, that's all. Danish Über Alles, innit. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by chimera on Jan 8th, 2026 at 1:23pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 11:20am:
U.S. in 1917 issued a declaration recognizing Danish sovereignty over all of Greenland, solidifying Denmark's claim to the entire island for centuries. Never 'ceded' by US. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2026 at 3:25pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:09am:
You're a dreamer. The US has a $trillion dollar defence budget - their air force now has built up over the last 50 years and more. Europe can't ever hope to match the Yanks. They need the Yanks - now more than ever before and Trump knows it, so he know he can get away with taking Greenland. Analogy - telling your boss to go and get stuffed when you have a mortgage and a wife and kids to look after - and no other job to go to. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 8th, 2026 at 4:59pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 3:25pm:
If DL takes Greenland, NATO's over, Bobby. The US joins Chi-na and Russia Russia Russia in a new arrangement to divvie up the globe. In your preferred course of action, this leaves Australia stuck precariously in the Pacific, just another bare butt in the showers. Is this what you want? Would you prefer the Chows used lube? |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2026 at 5:01pm Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 4:59pm:
Trump is putting even more troops and enlarged bases in Australia to counter the yellow peril. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 8th, 2026 at 5:03pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 5:01pm:
Link? |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by Bobby. on Jan 8th, 2026 at 5:04pm Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 5:03pm:
Check out what's going on in Darwin - use Google. I'm not your errand boy. |
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Title: Re: ‘We have to have it’: Trump renews push for Greenl Post by FD on Jan 8th, 2026 at 5:20pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 5:04pm:
So you won't back up your claim? Why's that, Bobby? |
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