Thats what we just experienced, Hegseth has done the impossible and proved how brilliant he is. Everyone doubted him and tried to make out he was out of his depth and he goes and pulls off the most amazing feat by the military. Not one soldier was harmed and they took the president of a country out of his office with precision and brilliant leadership, Hegseth has put himself on the top shelf of tacticians and brilliant leaders.

This humble man with a glowing heart and eyes of the wise has come into our community with faith and deep love. Children surround him, including young Donald asking for a sign or signature. In the words of the devoted man himself "Today I gave you Venezuela, tomorrow it's tortillas'.

chimera wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 5:01pm:

This humble man with a glowing heart and eyes of the wise has come into our community with faith and deep love. Children surround him, including young Donald asking for a sign or signature. In the words of the devoted man himself "Today I gave you Venezuela, tomorrow it's tortillas'.

You might not be happy with the outcome chimera but the people of Venezuela are crying with joy. Its a shame posters like yourself and armchair would rather see them ruled under a brutal dictator if it means Trump gets credit for his amazing actions.

It was classic ASB concept operation well executed.

Leroy wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 5:07pm:

people of Venezuela are crying with joy. .

Banana republics shoot their way into the next dictatorship. Coups, revolution, assassinations. aye yi yi !
It could work for Australia eh.

chimera wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 5:31pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 5:07pm: people of Venezuela are crying with joy. . Banana republics shoot their way into the next dictatorship. Coups, revolution, assassinations. aye yi yi ! It could work for Australia eh.

So you consider Venezuela to be a banana republic, let them rot because they will only be taken over by the next dictator. So its just down to your hatred of Venezeulians.

Way off target. It's because Trump is bringing the US into the system of banana republics. You may have heard about 'democracy. rule of law'. It's on google (Australia is in the Pacific, in the south, near New Zealand)

chimera wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 5:39pm:

Way off target. It's because Trump is bringing the US into the system of banana republics. You may have heard about 'democracy. rule of law'. It's on google

You are upset that Trump has freed the people of Venezuela from Maduro.

How does  'democracy. rule of law' help the people of Venezuela, just people trying to live a peaceful life, how is your laws going to help them. They might make you feel warm and cozy but what does it do for people in their situation.

Watch the videos and see people waking up to hear Maduro has been taken by the US and how they burst out smiling, of the hundreds of thousands who are in the streets parting because Trump took care of their problem.

How were the laws going to give these people a decent chance at a good life. Tell them how it is more important for your laws than the safe and wellbeing of their families.

You think that the people of Venezuela don't deserve to have a good life because it is against the laws.

Leroy wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 5:48pm:

chimera wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 5:39pm: Way off target. It's because Trump is bringing the US into the system of banana republics. You may have heard about 'democracy. rule of law'. It's on google You are upset that Trump has freed the people of Venezuela from Maduro. How does  'democracy. rule of law' help the people of Venezuela, just people trying to live a peaceful life, how is your laws going to help them. They might make you feel warm and cozy but what does it do for people in their situation. Watch the videos and see people waking up to hear Maduro has been taken by the US and how they burst out smiling, of the hundreds of thousands who are in the streets parting because Trump took care of their problem. How were the laws going to give these people a decent chance at a good life. Tell them how it is more important for your laws than the safe and wellbeing of their families. You think that the people of Venezuela don't deserve to have a good life because it is against the laws.

You think Trump did this for drugs, or for the Venezuelan people?

There's no serious dispute that Maduro is a corrupt, vicious dictator who represses democratic opposition. That's true, and it's been true for years. But acknowledging that reality doesn't grant Trump a licence to shred international law on a whim.

Unilaterally seizing a foreign head of state, outside a declared war, is a breach of virtually every canon of international law. It collapses the distinction between law enforcement, war, and piracy. Once you normalise that behaviour, you don't get to pretend you still believe in a rules-based order.

And the damage doesn't stop at Venezuela. This is exactly the kind of precedent authoritarian powers look for. It hands Putin a ready-made justification in Ukraine, and it gives a future Xi the same script for Taiwan. "The West does it too" isn't a slogan, it's a strategic gift.

If the argument is that power alone confers legitimacy, then stop pretending this is about democracy, human rights, or the Venezuelan people. It isn't. It's about raw force, exercised without constraint, and dressed up after the fact as moral necessity.

You don't defend international law by violating it when it's inconvenient. You don't protect democracy by teaching every strongman on the planet that rules only apply to the weak.

Quote:

There's no serious dispute that Maduro is a corrupt, vicious dictator who represses democratic opposition. That's true, and it's been true for years. But acknowledging that reality doesn't grant Trump a licence to shred international law on a whim. Unilaterally seizing a foreign head of state, outside a declared war, is a breach of virtually every canon of international law. It collapses the distinction between law enforcement, war, and piracy. Once you normalise that behaviour, you don't get to pretend you still believe in a rules-based order.

Who says that Maduro is the head of a state?  Only Maduro?

On what recognised authority?  None.

He was as much a real head of state as trans women are real women.

Lefties would condemn what was done to Idi Amin. ::)

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 11:31am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 5:48pm: chimera wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 5:39pm: Way off target. It's because Trump is bringing the US into the system of banana republics. You may have heard about 'democracy. rule of law'. It's on google You are upset that Trump has freed the people of Venezuela from Maduro. How does  'democracy. rule of law' help the people of Venezuela, just people trying to live a peaceful life, how is your laws going to help them. They might make you feel warm and cozy but what does it do for people in their situation. Watch the videos and see people waking up to hear Maduro has been taken by the US and how they burst out smiling, of the hundreds of thousands who are in the streets parting because Trump took care of their problem. How were the laws going to give these people a decent chance at a good life. Tell them how it is more important for your laws than the safe and wellbeing of their families. You think that the people of Venezuela don't deserve to have a good life because it is against the laws. You think Trump did this for drugs, or for the Venezuelan people? There's no serious dispute that Maduro is a corrupt, vicious dictator who represses democratic opposition. That's true, and it's been true for years. But acknowledging that reality doesn't grant Trump a licence to shred international law on a whim. Unilaterally seizing a foreign head of state, outside a declared war, is a breach of virtually every canon of international law. It collapses the distinction between law enforcement, war, and piracy. Once you normalise that behaviour, you don't get to pretend you still believe in a rules-based order. And the damage doesn't stop at Venezuela. This is exactly the kind of precedent authoritarian powers look for. It hands Putin a ready-made justification in Ukraine, and it gives a future Xi the same script for Taiwan. "The West does it too" isn't a slogan, it's a strategic gift. If the argument is that power alone confers legitimacy, then stop pretending this is about democracy, human rights, or the Venezuelan people. It isn't. It's about raw force, exercised without constraint, and dressed up after the fact as moral necessity. You don't defend international law by violating it when it's inconvenient. You don't protect democracy by teaching every strongman on the planet that rules only apply to the weak.

And your solution for the people of Venezuela is to be scared of strongmen and do nothing. Sounds like rules are for the weak, if you follow the rules then the strongmen can do what they like with impunity.

It's sadly their problem.

Unless we look at the masked ice agents, under the direction of the US president, kidnapping people without identifying themselves, having a warrant issued, or allowing them any due process, just kidnapping them off the streets, the act of a dictator ignoring the rule of law.

Should we send in the SAS to remove Trump?

If not, why not?

No. Because Trump is doing all the right things.
Pretty simple and obvious.
The SAS should take down your Anus Albo though.

BUT -

40 people were killed to get one man and put him on trial:

https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/1/4/venezuelans-divided-after-us-attack-and-maduros-abduction

4 Jan 2026

Venezuelans divided after US attack and Maduro’s abduction

Venezuelan officials say US air strikes killed at least 40 people,
destroyed parts of the capital and violated their national sovereignty with the abduction of President Nicolas Maduro. Venezuelans are divided between fear of ongoing US intervention and celebrating his removal.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 11:47am:

It's sadly their problem. Unless we look at the masked ice agents, under the direction of the US president, kidnapping people without identifying themselves, having a warrant issued, or allowing them any due process, just kidnapping them off the streets, the act of a dictator ignoring the rule of law. Should we send in the SAS to remove Trump? If not, why not?

Because again you are making things up, people deported by ICE have outstanding removal orders the dems would not enforce. The demo were breaking the law by not doing their duty.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 11:47am:

It's sadly their problem.

Then Putin is, sadly, the Ukrainians' problem.


Or as that snivelling idiot Bbwiyawn put it, the Bondi massacre is the Jews' problem, not his or ours as he is not a Jew.

We're any american lives lost during this operation?

Comparisons to the Obama , Biden  war in Afghanistan.  :D

They would have  achieved a lot of amputated servicemen
And left  behind a few dozen choppers, and billions of dollars worth of guns and ammo for mr moduro.


Time to drill, baby , drill.

This is what winning looks like

aquascoot wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 1:22pm:

We're any american lives lost during this operation? Comparisons to the Obama , Biden  war in Afghanistan.  :D They would have  achieved a lot of amputated servicemen And left  behind a few dozen choppers, and billions of dollars worth of guns and ammo for mr moduro. Time to drill, baby , drill. This is what winning looks like

BUT -

40 people were killed to get one man and put him on trial -
that fact is not on our news.
Not on CNN, or BBC, or Reuters, not on the radio, not on TV - why?

https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/1/4/venezuelans-divided-after-us-attack-and-maduros-abduction

4 Jan 2026

Venezuelans divided after US attack and Maduro’s abduction

Venezuelan officials say US air strikes killed at least 40 people,
destroyed parts of the capital and violated their national sovereignty with the abduction of President Nicolas Maduro. Venezuelans are divided between fear of ongoing US intervention and celebrating his removal.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 1:29pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 1:22pm: We're any american lives lost during this operation? Comparisons to the Obama , Biden  war in Afghanistan.  :D They would have  achieved a lot of amputated servicemen And left  behind a few dozen choppers, and billions of dollars worth of guns and ammo for mr moduro. Time to drill, baby , drill. This is what winning looks like BUT - 40 people were killed to get one man and put him on trial - that fact is not on our news. Not on CNN, or BBC, or Reuters, not on the radio, not on TV - why? https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/1/4/venezuelans-divided-after-us-attack-and-maduros-abduction 4 Jan 2026 Venezuelans divided after US attack and Maduro’s abduction Venezuelan officials say US air strikes killed at least 40 people, destroyed parts of the capital and violated their national sovereignty with the abduction of President Nicolas Maduro. Venezuelans are divided between fear of ongoing US intervention and celebrating his removal.

Aqua is right.
Those 40 people were his henchmen, personal bodyguards and evil drug lords hopefully. No skin off the world's teeth.

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 11:37am:

[ Who says that Maduro is the head of a state?

Donald.
Ambassador of the United States to Venezuela
John McNamara Chargé d'affaires since February 1, 2025
Nominator:      The president of the United States
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The UK currently has a Chargé d'Affaires in Venezuela, Colin Dick OBE, leading the embassy in Caracas since mid-2023.
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https://www.facebook.com/amazingmap1/posts/which-countries-recognize-maduros-2024-election-victory/867740516013544/

Jasin wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 1:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 1:29pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 1:22pm: We're any american lives lost during this operation? Comparisons to the Obama , Biden  war in Afghanistan.  :D They would have  achieved a lot of amputated servicemen And left  behind a few dozen choppers, and billions of dollars worth of guns and ammo for mr moduro. Time to drill, baby , drill. This is what winning looks like BUT - 40 people were killed to get one man and put him on trial - that fact is not on our news. Not on CNN, or BBC, or Reuters, not on the radio, not on TV - why? https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/1/4/venezuelans-divided-after-us-attack-and-maduros-abduction 4 Jan 2026 Venezuelans divided after US attack and Maduro’s abduction Venezuelan officials say US air strikes killed at least 40 people, destroyed parts of the capital and violated their national sovereignty with the abduction of President Nicolas Maduro. Venezuelans are divided between fear of ongoing US intervention and celebrating his removal. Aqua is right. Those 40 people were his henchmen, personal bodyguards and evil drug lords hopefully. No skin off the world's teeth.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/cuba-says-32-its-citizens-killed-maduro-extraction-2026-01-05/



Cuba says 32 of its citizens killed in Maduro extraction

The Cuban government said on Sunday that 32 of its citizens were killed
during the U.S. raid on Venezuela to extract President Nicolas Maduro for prosecution in the United States.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 2:35pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 1:40pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 1:29pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 1:22pm: We're any american lives lost during this operation? Comparisons to the Obama , Biden  war in Afghanistan.  :D They would have  achieved a lot of amputated servicemen And left  behind a few dozen choppers, and billions of dollars worth of guns and ammo for mr moduro. Time to drill, baby , drill. This is what winning looks like BUT - 40 people were killed to get one man and put him on trial - that fact is not on our news. Not on CNN, or BBC, or Reuters, not on the radio, not on TV - why? https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/1/4/venezuelans-divided-after-us-attack-and-maduros-abduction 4 Jan 2026 Venezuelans divided after US attack and Maduro’s abduction Venezuelan officials say US air strikes killed at least 40 people, destroyed parts of the capital and violated their national sovereignty with the abduction of President Nicolas Maduro. Venezuelans are divided between fear of ongoing US intervention and celebrating his removal. Aqua is right. Those 40 people were his henchmen, personal bodyguards and evil drug lords hopefully. No skin off the world's teeth. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/cuba-says-32-its-citizens-killed-maduro-extraction-2026-01-05/ Cuba says 32 of its citizens killed in Maduro extraction The Cuban government said on Sunday that 32 of its citizens were killed during the U.S. raid on Venezuela to extract President Nicolas Maduro for prosecution in the United States.

Cuban tourist on a military base, eh?  Tsk, tsk   :o :o

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 2:35pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 1:40pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 1:29pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 1:22pm: We're any american lives lost during this operation? Comparisons to the Obama , Biden  war in Afghanistan.  :D They would have  achieved a lot of amputated servicemen And left  behind a few dozen choppers, and billions of dollars worth of guns and ammo for mr moduro. Time to drill, baby , drill. This is what winning looks like BUT - 40 people were killed to get one man and put him on trial - that fact is not on our news. Not on CNN, or BBC, or Reuters, not on the radio, not on TV - why? https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/1/4/venezuelans-divided-after-us-attack-and-maduros-abduction 4 Jan 2026 Venezuelans divided after US attack and Maduro’s abduction Venezuelan officials say US air strikes killed at least 40 people, destroyed parts of the capital and violated their national sovereignty with the abduction of President Nicolas Maduro. Venezuelans are divided between fear of ongoing US intervention and celebrating his removal. Aqua is right. Those 40 people were his henchmen, personal bodyguards and evil drug lords hopefully. No skin off the world's teeth. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/cuba-says-32-its-citizens-killed-maduro-extraction-2026-01-05/ Cuba says 32 of its citizens killed in Maduro extraction The Cuban government said on Sunday that 32 of its citizens were killed during the U.S. raid on Venezuela to extract President Nicolas Maduro for prosecution in the United States.

How many more people do you think Trump will murder, Bobby?

"The Cuban government statement gave few details, but said all the dead were members of the Cuban armed forces and intelligence agencies."

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 3:24pm:

How many more people do you think Trump will murder, Bobby? "The Cuban government statement gave few details, but said all the dead were members of the Cuban armed forces and intelligence agencies."

Murder?

Well not as many as GW Bush.
Didn't he murder over 1 million people in his war on terror?

Gwoggy Lefty murders hundreds of thousands in his support of Drug Dealing Terrorism like Venezuela.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 3:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 3:24pm: How many more people do you think Trump will murder, Bobby? "The Cuban government statement gave few details, but said all the dead were members of the Cuban armed forces and intelligence agencies." Murder?

Yes, murder.

Trump is murdering people.

How many more do you think he will kill?

From day one I said that Trump had the potential to murder more people than Hitler, and I stand by that claim.

If he doesn't die this year he'll probably beat Hitler's record before the end of his second term.

The world just has to pray that nature takes its course as soon as possible and that he drops dead (filling his diaper before he hits the floor) from a massive heart attack soon.

Melania and Ivanka have their (smelly) fingers crossed.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 3:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 3:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 3:24pm: How many more people do you think Trump will murder, Bobby? "The Cuban government statement gave few details, but said all the dead were members of the Cuban armed forces and intelligence agencies." Murder? Yes, murder. Trump is murdering people. How many more do you think he will kill? From day one I said that Trump had the potential to murder more people than Hitler, and I stand by that claim. If he doesn't die this year he'll probably beat Hitler's record before the end of his second term. The world just has to pray that nature takes its course as soon as possible and that he drops dead (filling his diaper before he hits the floor) from a massive heart attack soon. Melania and Ivanka have their (smelly) fingers crossed.

Ohh come on - Hitler killed at least 35 million people.    ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 3:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 3:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 3:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 3:24pm: How many more people do you think Trump will murder, Bobby? "The Cuban government statement gave few details, but said all the dead were members of the Cuban armed forces and intelligence agencies." Murder? Yes, murder. Trump is murdering people. How many more do you think he will kill? From day one I said that Trump had the potential to murder more people than Hitler, and I stand by that claim. If he doesn't die this year he'll probably beat Hitler's record before the end of his second term. The world just has to pray that nature takes its course as soon as possible and that he drops dead (filling his diaper before he hits the floor) from a massive heart attack soon. Melania and Ivanka have their (smelly) fingers crossed. Ohh come on - Hitler killed at least 35 million people.    ::)

Trump is on track to becoming one of the biggest monsters of the 21st Century, and it's people like you who say "Oh, come on" who are facilitating him.

Leroy wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 4:55pm:

Thats what we just experienced, Hegseth has done the impossible and proved how brilliant he is. Everyone doubted him and tried to make out he was out of his depth and he goes and pulls off the most amazing feat by the military. Not one soldier was harmed and they took the president of a country out of his office with precision and brilliant leadership, Hegseth has put himself on the top shelf of tacticians and brilliant leaders.

Oh? We saw Pete watching the attack at Mar a Lago, dear. The bar was still open - club members could be seen in the background, taking selfies. I believe it was Ladies' Night.

Which brilliant tactics do you mean?

Staying away?

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 12:32pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 11:47am: It's sadly their problem. Then Putin is, sadly, the Ukrainians' problem.

You sound a little bit sad, old boy.

I guess Xi is Taiwan's problem too, eh?

He is now perfectly entitled to invade.

Loose lips sink ships, innit.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 3:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 3:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 3:24pm: How many more people do you think Trump will murder, Bobby? "The Cuban government statement gave few details, but said all the dead were members of the Cuban armed forces and intelligence agencies." Murder? Yes, murder. Trump is murdering people. How many more do you think he will kill? From day one I said that Trump had the potential to murder more people than Hitler, and I stand by that claim. If he doesn't die this year he'll probably beat Hitler's record before the end of his second term. The world just has to pray that nature takes its course as soon as possible and that he drops dead (filling his diaper before he hits the floor) from a massive heart attack soon. Melania and Ivanka have their (smelly) fingers crossed.

If this happens, Greggery, I predict Melanie's odor will mysteriously vanish.

But that's just me.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 3:50pm:

Trump is on track to becoming one of the biggest monsters of the 21st Century, and it's people like you who say "Oh, come on" who are facilitating him.

He's not a monster but he's a guy if you - FAFO.  ;) 

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 3:50pm: Trump is on track to becoming one of the biggest monsters of the 21st Century, and it's people like you who say "Oh, come on" who are facilitating him. He's not a monster ...

One of the biggest of the 21st century, and on his way to becoming the biggest.

Let's just hope nature takes its course soon, and that it's a slow, painful death.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:06pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 3:50pm: Trump is on track to becoming one of the biggest monsters of the 21st Century, and it's people like you who say "Oh, come on" who are facilitating him. He's not a monster ... One of the biggest of the 21st century, and on his way to becoming the biggest. Let's just hope nature takes its course soon, and that it's a slow, painful death.

Pecca,
You should not wish death upon the leader of the free world.

forgiven

namaste

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:15pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:06pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 3:50pm: Trump is on track to becoming one of the biggest monsters of the 21st Century, and it's people like you who say "Oh, come on" who are facilitating him. He's not a monster ... One of the biggest of the 21st century, and on his way to becoming the biggest. Let's just hope nature takes its course soon, and that it's a slow, painful death. Pecca, You should not wish death upon the leader of the free world. forgiven namaste

He's going to die soon from natural causes.

I just want it to be sooner rather than later.

So does most of the world.

His days or raping and murdering are numbered, thanks to McDonald's.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:17pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:15pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:06pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 3:50pm: Trump is on track to becoming one of the biggest monsters of the 21st Century, and it's people like you who say "Oh, come on" who are facilitating him. He's not a monster ... One of the biggest of the 21st century, and on his way to becoming the biggest. Let's just hope nature takes its course soon, and that it's a slow, painful death. Pecca, You should not wish death upon the leader of the free world. forgiven namaste He's going to die soon from natural causes. I just want it to be sooner rather than later. So does most of the world. His days or raping and murdering are numbered, thanks to McDonald's.

Would you prefer Vance or Hegseth to be the next president?     :-/

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:17pm:

upon the leader of the free world.

This is the central point about Trump. He's kidnapped the fw.

Trump has conquered the world without the need to wage a full war.
He has conquered the Media who can't get enough of him and have ditched their traditional celebrities of Music and entertainment.
The people of the world can't get enough of him.
He has made Politics great again.

There will be a huge void when he retires.
A void that won't be filled again for a long time.

Mar-a-Lago during the attacks on Venezuela and the capture of Maduro

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q70/924/Fs19wT.jpg

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 12:32pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 11:47am: It's sadly their problem. Then Putin is, sadly, the Ukrainians' problem.

What Putin does to his own people, however brutal, is sadly their problem. What he's doing to Ukraine is not, and Trump has just helped legitimise that behaviour by doing the same thing to Venezuela.

That is the core of the problem.

One is internal repression. The other is an external war of aggression that destabilises an entire region and shreds international norms.

Conflating the two is either bad faith or basic incomprehension. There isn't a third option.

So which is it?

aquascoot wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 1:22pm:

We're any american lives lost during this operation? Comparisons to the Obama , Biden  war in Afghanistan.  :D They would have  achieved a lot of amputated servicemen And left  behind a few dozen choppers, and billions of dollars worth of guns and ammo for mr moduro. Time to drill, baby , drill. This is what winning looks like

Bookmarked for when the inevitable boots on the ground cost US lives.

Jasin wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 1:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 1:29pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 1:22pm: We're any american lives lost during this operation? Comparisons to the Obama , Biden  war in Afghanistan.  :D They would have  achieved a lot of amputated servicemen And left  behind a few dozen choppers, and billions of dollars worth of guns and ammo for mr moduro. Time to drill, baby , drill. This is what winning looks like BUT - 40 people were killed to get one man and put him on trial - that fact is not on our news. Not on CNN, or BBC, or Reuters, not on the radio, not on TV - why? https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/1/4/venezuelans-divided-after-us-attack-and-maduros-abduction 4 Jan 2026 Venezuelans divided after US attack and Maduro’s abduction Venezuelan officials say US air strikes killed at least 40 people, destroyed parts of the capital and violated their national sovereignty with the abduction of President Nicolas Maduro. Venezuelans are divided between fear of ongoing US intervention and celebrating his removal. Aqua is right. Those 40 people were his henchmen, personal bodyguards and evil drug lords hopefully. No skin off the world's teeth.

Green light to 2nd Amendment masked ICE Agents, abducting people off the streets without a warrant or identifying themselves?

tallowood wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:41pm:

Mar-a-Lago during the attacks on Venezuela and the capture of Maduro https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q70/924/Fs19wT.jpg

Trump so desperately wanted an Obama moment, the gravitas, the symbolism, the pretence of competence.

Instead, they pinned up black sheets in an open space at Mar-a-Lago to cosplay a secure facility.

A bargain-bin stage set for a man obsessed with optics and utterly incapable of substance.

It's not just embarrassing, it's farcical.

Obama never had a moment beyond the novelty gimmick of 'first black man'.
;D
He flogged that for two terms.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 12:32pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 11:47am: It's sadly their problem. Then Putin is, sadly, the Ukrainians' problem. What Putin does to his own people, however brutal, is sadly their problem. What he's doing to Ukraine is not, and Trump has just helped legitimise that behaviour by doing the same thing to Venezuela. That is the core of the problem. One is internal repression. The other is an external war of aggression that destabilises an entire region and shreds international norms. Conflating the two is either bad faith or basic incomprehension. There isn't a third option. So which is it?

Or as that snivelling idiot Bbwiyawn put it, the Bondi massacre is the Jews' problem, not his or ours as he is not a Jew.

Don't leave that out.



Two Indian Muslims massacring 15 people on Bondi Beach is not Bbwiyawn's problem coz he's not Jewish.


ICE taking illegals into custody in America is not your problem either, since you are neither American nor an illegal in America. But you do carry on about it for some reason.


America is pursuing its interests in Venezuela which happens to conclude with the interests on Venezuelans. a pissy little tinpot dictator cannot expect to get away with kicking sand in America's face, in America's backyard. An so he didnt get away with.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:59pm:

tallowood wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:41pm: Mar-a-Lago during the attacks on Venezuela and the capture of Maduro https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q70/924/Fs19wT.jpg Trump so desperately wanted an Obama moment, the gravitas, the symbolism, the pretence of competence. Instead, they pinned up black sheets in an open space at Mar-a-Lago to cosplay a secure facility. A bargain-bin stage set for a man obsessed with optics and utterly incapable of substance. It's not just embarrassing, it's farcical.

I wonder if Maduro see it that way. ;D ;D ;D

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 12:32pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 11:47am: It's sadly their problem. Then Putin is, sadly, the Ukrainians' problem. What Putin does to his own people, however brutal, is sadly their problem. What he's doing to Ukraine is not, and Trump has just helped legitimise that behaviour by doing the same thing to Venezuela. That is the core of the problem. One is internal repression. The other is an external war of aggression that destabilises an entire region and shreds international norms. Conflating the two is either bad faith or basic incomprehension. There isn't a third option. So which is it?

Zelensky leadership is the Ukrainians' problem, he should've hold to Minsk agreement.

Jasin wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 5:01pm:

Obama never had a moment beyond the novelty gimmick of 'first black mulatto man'. He flogged that for two terms.

Fixed it for you.

O'Bama is just as much white as he is black.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:17pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:15pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:06pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 3:50pm: Trump is on track to becoming one of the biggest monsters of the 21st Century, and it's people like you who say "Oh, come on" who are facilitating him. He's not a monster ... One of the biggest of the 21st century, and on his way to becoming the biggest. Let's just hope nature takes its course soon, and that it's a slow, painful death. Pecca, You should not wish death upon the leader of the free world. forgiven namaste He's going to die soon from natural causes. I just want it to be sooner rather than later. So does most of the world. His days or raping and murdering are numbered, thanks to McDonald's.

Yes, but Aquascoot did email him about that, Greggery. I believe he referenced Marla as a "cautionary tale".

Going off his read receipts, you'd think Aquascoot would have twigged by now that DL's never opened an email in his life.

If Aquascoot wants to speak to his DL directly, he'll need to do what every other red-blooded patriot does and pay the one mil fee, head down to Mar a Lago and queue up at the buffet with all the other elites.

DEEP STATE !!!

Jasin wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 5:01pm:

Obama never had a moment beyond the novelty gimmick of 'first black man'. ;D He flogged that for two terms.

https://i.imgur.com/MeeGq8X.jpeg

The funniest part is, Trump then fell asleep live on air during the press conference afterwards.

Again...

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 5:08pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:52pm: Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 12:32pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 11:47am: It's sadly their problem. Then Putin is, sadly, the Ukrainians' problem. What Putin does to his own people, however brutal, is sadly their problem. What he's doing to Ukraine is not, and Trump has just helped legitimise that behaviour by doing the same thing to Venezuela. That is the core of the problem. One is internal repression. The other is an external war of aggression that destabilises an entire region and shreds international norms. Conflating the two is either bad faith or basic incomprehension. There isn't a third option. So which is it? Or as that snivelling idiot Bbwiyawn put it, the Bondi massacre is the Jews' problem, not his or ours as he is not a Jew. Don't leave that out.

Your distraction is irrelevant, I'm not Brian.

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 5:10pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:01pm: Obama never had a moment beyond the novelty gimmick of 'first black mulatto man'. He flogged that for two terms. Fixed it for you. O'Bama is just as much white as he is black.

It was vanila-cream in chocolate that upset him most.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q70/921/pQvvEr.jpg

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:02pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 12:32pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 11:47am: It's sadly their problem. Then Putin is, sadly, the Ukrainians' problem. You sound a little bit sad, old boy. I guess Xi is Taiwan's problem too, eh? He is now perfectly entitled to invade. Loose lips sink ships, innit.

I am giving you Bbwiyawn's take on geopolitics, paki.
Keep up.
Or not.

It's not Trump's fault that the attack on the enemy Congress failed, in 2021. It was planned by experts with motivated personnel and used skill in entering by windows. The tyrant escaped to the garage because of unexpected obstruction by enemy agents in uniform carrying pistols of mass destruction.
The great Trump learned from this and the January 3 invasion went to plan, like the victory in the Pacific 1945.

chimera wrote on Jan 6^th, 2026 at 7:50am:

It's not Trump's fault that the attack on the enemy Congress failed, in 2021. It was planned by experts with motivated personnel and used skill in entering by windows. The tyrant escaped to the garage because of unexpected obstruction by enemy agents in uniform carrying pistols of mass destruction. The great Trump learned from this and the January 3 invasion went to plan, like the victory in the Pacific 1945.

Did it fail, who is the president?.

Biden the traitor 2021-2025. He stole the 11.780 votes at gunpoint, wounding Trump in the butt.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 5:22pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:01pm: Obama never had a moment beyond the novelty gimmick of 'first black man'. ;D He flogged that for two terms. https://i.imgur.com/MeeGq8X.jpeg The funniest part is, Trump then fell asleep live on air during the press conference afterwards. Again...

Lol   ;D

https://lavocedinewyork.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/trump.jpg

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 9:18pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:02pm: Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 12:32pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 11:47am: It's sadly their problem. Then Putin is, sadly, the Ukrainians' problem. You sound a little bit sad, old boy. I guess Xi is Taiwan's problem too, eh? He is now perfectly entitled to invade. Loose lips sink ships, innit. I am giving you Bbwiyawn's take on geopolitics, paki. Keep up. Or not.

Not at all, dear boy. You're saying Uncle needs to stay off Vlad's turf.

You're saying Eastern Europe belongs to Vlad, the Pacific belongs to Xi, and the Americas belongs to you-know-who.

Quite an evolution in old boy thinking, eh?

Monroe Doctrine 101, innit. The world neatly mapped, bought, sold and owned.

But I'm curious. Which country does Greenland belong to again? 

You haven't said.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 1:22pm:

We're any american lives lost during this operation? Comparisons to the Obama , Biden  war in Afghanistan.  :D They would have  achieved a lot of amputated servicemen And left  behind a few dozen choppers, and billions of dollars worth of guns and ammo for mr moduro. Time to drill, baby , drill. This is what winning looks like

We haven't even put boots on the ground, and the admitted death toll is already at eleven or twelve.

Funny, under Obama and Biden, every casualty was a clear indictment of leadership, a report card on their performance. Yet now that Trump has started a war with Iran and American soldiers are dying, do you still feel the same way? Or are we quietly moving the goalposts to excuse the mounting human cost because it reflects poorly on the president you support?

At some point, the arithmetic of war doesn't care about political allegiance, the bodies are the same, no matter who's in the Oval Office.