Giddyup……..  ;)

Venezuela must be disappointed the dems didn't get in, if they had of then America would be sending plane loads of cash with a polite note asking to tone down the drug supply.

US Attack Is Underway, With Reports of Special Forces on the Ground…

'Special Military Operation Forces?'

👇

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I thought Trump was a President of Peace?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2026 at 8:33pm:

I thought Trump was a President of Peace?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Typical leftie, thinks you achieve peace by doing nothing.

Peace through Strength…

Even Jesus had to whip the Money Changers out of the Temple…

Trump promises not to go to war.  He goes to war and all his acolytes make excuses.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Maduro is a gangster drug dealer -

responsible for the deaths of 100s of 1000s of Americans.

Trump is gunna put him on trial and hang em,  and hang em high.

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2026 at 8:49pm:

Trump promises not to go to war.  He goes to war and all his acolytes make excuses.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

He intensified existing wars and started several new ones.

The "President of peace"   ;D

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2026 at 8:53pm:

Maduro is a gangster drug dealer -

In that case, Trump will pardon him.

If he's a rapist and kiddie fiddler, Trump will give him a job in the White House.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2026 at 8:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 8:53pm: Maduro is a gangster drug dealer - In that case, Trump will pardon him. If he's a rapist and kiddie fiddler, Trump will give him a job in the White House.

And if he's a child sex trafficker and wife beater, Trump will give him free lodgings at Mar-a-Lago.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2026 at 8:53pm:

Maduro is a gangster drug dealer - responsible for the deaths of 100s of 1000s of Americans. Trump is gunna put him on trial and hang em,  and hang em high.

Bullshit, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2026 at 9:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 8:53pm: Maduro is a gangster drug dealer - responsible for the deaths of 100s of 1000s of Americans. Trump is gunna put him on trial and hang em,  and hang em high. Bullshit, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

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Bobby. wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2026 at 8:53pm:

Maduro is a gangster drug dealer - responsible for the deaths of 100s of 1000s of Americans. Trump is gunna put him on trial and hang em,  and hang em high.

Looks like Pete is going to get a great payday

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The US is losing 300,000 people a year to drugs run in my Maduro and his cartels… thats War

Mexico also put on notice…

VENEZUELA Was one of the richest places on Earth until that Dictator Socialist Commie Criminal took control

Hopefully they are looking at Albozo and this commie Labor government as well 🤔

“This is the sound of thousands and thousands of Venezuelans waking up this morning realizing that their communist dictator Nicolas Maduro has been captured by the United States military

Listen to this”

https://x.com/wallstreetapes/status/2007483460282437733?s=61&t=pr9sQbfDnRXI42Hsv2j5ag

Sorry I’m late, everyone. I just got home from the hospital due to severe whiplash caused by Trump fully and unconditionally pardoning the former President of Honduras after being convicted in a U.S. court of helping drug cartels smuggle more than 400 tonnes of drugs into America and then invading Venezuela overnight and taking Maduro and his wife. I wonder if they’ll get a pardon if they pay Trump enough? Seems to be how things work with him nowadays.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2026 at 8:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 8:49pm: Trump promises not to go to war.  He goes to war and all his acolytes make excuses.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) He intensified existing wars and started several new ones. The "President of peace"   ;D

There goes his Nobel Peace Prize down the toilet…

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 8:14am:

Sorry I’m late, everyone. I just got home from the hospital due to severe whiplash caused by Trump fully and unconditionally pardoning the former President of Honduras after being convicted in a U.S. court of helping drug cartels smuggle more than 400 tonnes of drugs into America and then invading Venezuela overnight and taking Maduro and his wife. I wonder if they’ll get a pardon if they pay Trump enough? Seems to be how things work with him nowadays.

TDS has plenty of side effects, this is going to be a bad week for TDS sufferers.

Maduro is very bad man, si. Mucho big boss in village and lot money. Other gangster Trump gangs in great banana republic of Estados Unidos. Two big el criminal, same desperado and shoot out banditos.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2026 at 8:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 8:49pm: Trump promises not to go to war.  He goes to war and all his acolytes make excuses.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) He intensified existing wars and started several new ones. The "President of peace"   ;D

What war, cockwomble?

Venezuela has a lot of oil and it is being used to find a corrupt and useless leader.
Trump understands energy security is economic security.
He makes a move on the oil.

How surprising .

Every leader from Julius caesar thru all the english French kings, Napoleon. Genghis, the leaders of WW 1 and 2 fought wars to secure resources.

Only a brain dead leadership like Australia has would hand over gas coal and oil rights to Japan China and aboriginal grifters.

Hence why America will remain prosperous and Australians will face blackouts and 7 dollar timtams

aquascoot wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 8:47am:

Venezuela has a lot of oil and it is being used to find a corrupt and useless leader. Trump understands energy security is economic security. He makes a move on the oil. How surprising . Every leader from Julius caesar thru all the english French kings, Napoleon. Genghis, the leaders of WW 1 and 2 fought wars to secure resources. Only a brain dead leadership like Australia has would hand over gas coal and oil rights to Japan China and aboriginal grifters. Hence why America will remain prosperous and Australians will face blackouts and 7 dollar timtams

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aquascoot wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 8:47am:

He makes a move on the oil.

Obviously China will secure the Pilbara and Hunter river coal. Timtams will be 15 yuan.

chimera wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 9:34am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:47am: He makes a move on the oil. Obviously China will secure the Pilbara and Hunter river coal. Timtams will be 15 yuan.

Courtesy "freetrade" under WTO rules, according to mainstream Neoclassical economics - which is why Trump has spurned the WTO, instituting his own global tarrifs.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 8:14am:

Sorry I’m late, everyone. I just got home from the hospital due to severe whiplash caused by Trump fully and unconditionally pardoning the former President of Honduras after being convicted in a U.S. court of helping drug cartels smuggle more than 400 tonnes of drugs into America and then invading Venezuela overnight and taking Maduro and his wife. I wonder if they’ll get a pardon if they pay Trump enough? Seems to be how things work with him nowadays.

Don't expect consistency from Trump; if your ideology pleases him you can do anything, even smuggle drugs to the US....

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 10:35am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:14am: Sorry I’m late, everyone. I just got home from the hospital due to severe whiplash caused by Trump fully and unconditionally pardoning the former President of Honduras after being convicted in a U.S. court of helping drug cartels smuggle more than 400 tonnes of drugs into America and then invading Venezuela overnight and taking Maduro and his wife. I wonder if they’ll get a pardon if they pay Trump enough? Seems to be how things work with him nowadays. Don't expect consistency from Trump; if your ideology pleases him you can do anything, even smuggle drugs to the US....

As opposed to pre-Trump America where the CIA put in Dictators in South America like Venezuela and Pinochet in Chile to keep those nations oppressed and weak? Don't forget the corrupt American Media which was in on this.

I guess Trump doesn't play CIA games.

Jasin wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 10:39am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 10:35am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:14am: Sorry I’m late, everyone. I just got home from the hospital due to severe whiplash caused by Trump fully and unconditionally pardoning the former President of Honduras after being convicted in a U.S. court of helping drug cartels smuggle more than 400 tonnes of drugs into America and then invading Venezuela overnight and taking Maduro and his wife. I wonder if they’ll get a pardon if they pay Trump enough? Seems to be how things work with him nowadays. Don't expect consistency from Trump; if your ideology pleases him you can do anything, even smuggle drugs to the US.... As opposed to pre-Trump America where the CIA put in Dictators in South America like Venezuela and Pinochet in Chile to keep those nations oppressed and weak? Don't forget the corrupt American Media which was in on this. I guess Trump doesn't play CIA games.

Nor WTO 'freetrade' games...but the CIA overthrow of the 'socialist' Allende in Chile? 

Don't know....Trump was last seen praising the victorious  Mamdani in the WH, despite his earlier threats of dire consequences  for New Yorkers if they dared to elect a socialist.   

Flexible ideology? 

You obviously can't cope with Trump tactics.
You would lose at Poker every time.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 8:47am:

Genghis, the leaders of WW 1 and 2 fought wars to secure resources.

Genghis was the main culprit for free trade, and organised the Peoples' Army Navy for Beijing Free Trade and Hypersonic Victory.

Jasin wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 11:12am:

You obviously can't cope with Trump tactics. You would lose at Poker every time.

Like Trump in NY?

Now the only Republican enclave in NY wants to secede....

What does Albo say?
He doesn't condemn it.


https://au.news.yahoo.com/concerns-albo-big-call-venezuela-220144195.html

The Australian government is “monitoring developments” in Venezuela, after the South American country was attacked by the United States, prime minister Anthony Albanese said.

In a post on X, Mr Albanese urged all parties to “support dialogue and diplomacy in order to secure regional stability and prevent escalation”.

“Australia has long held concerns about the situation in Venezuela, including the need to respect democratic principles, human rights and fundamental freedoms,” Mr Albanese wrote.

“We continue to support international law and a peaceful, democratic transition in Venezuela that reflects the will of the Venezuelan people.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 11:49am:

What does Albo say? He doesn't condemn it. https://au.news.yahoo.com/concerns-albo-big-call-venezuela-220144195.html The Australian government is “monitoring developments” in Venezuela, after the South American country was attacked by the United States, prime minister Anthony Albanese said. In a post on X, Mr Albanese urged all parties to “support dialogue and diplomacy in order to secure regional stability and prevent escalation”. “Australia has long held concerns about the situation in Venezuela, including the need to respect democratic principles, human rights and fundamental freedoms,” Mr Albanese wrote. “We continue to support international law and a peaceful, democratic transition in Venezuela that reflects the will of the Venezuelan people.

So Albanese said nothing, he put out a lame cut and paste statement to try and appease everyone. This is how these situations arise, weak pathetic statements that have no substance or intent.

Leroy wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 11:53am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 11:49am: What does Albo say? He doesn't condemn it. https://au.news.yahoo.com/concerns-albo-big-call-venezuela-220144195.html The Australian government is “monitoring developments” in Venezuela, after the South American country was attacked by the United States, prime minister Anthony Albanese said. In a post on X, Mr Albanese urged all parties to “support dialogue and diplomacy in order to secure regional stability and prevent escalation”. “Australia has long held concerns about the situation in Venezuela, including the need to respect democratic principles, human rights and fundamental freedoms,” Mr Albanese wrote. “We continue to support international law and a peaceful, democratic transition in Venezuela that reflects the will of the Venezuelan people. So Albanese said nothing, he put out a lame cut and paste statement to try and appease everyone. This is how these situations arise, weak pathetic statements that have no substance or intent.

It means he doesn't support the  UN solving the world's problems.

The United Nations is finished.

Agree. The UN has allowed Terrorism and violence in Africa to boom.

Only Trump and Netanyahu are saving the world.

Jasin wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 12:03pm:

Agree. The UN has allowed Terrorism and violence in Africa to boom. Only Trump and Netanyahu are saving the world.

ohh come on - you're trolling?   :)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 12:06pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 12:03pm: Agree. The UN has allowed Terrorism and violence in Africa to boom. Only Trump and Netanyahu are saving the world. ohh come on - you're trolling?   :)

Do you think Anus Albo is saving Australia from Terrorism?
Do you think he is help saving the world with his selfies behind a bar in Canada?

Jasin wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 12:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 12:06pm: Jasin wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 12:03pm: Agree. The UN has allowed Terrorism and violence in Africa to boom. Only Trump and Netanyahu are saving the world. ohh come on - you're trolling?   :) Do you think Anus Albo is saving Australia from Terrorism? Do you think he is help saving the world with his selfies behind a bar in Canada?

Albo doesn't know.   ::)


Putin went into Ukraine without discussing it at the UN -
it seems Trump has done the same in Venezuela.
The new world order says – 'might is right.'

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 12:21pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 12:15pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 12:06pm: Jasin wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 12:03pm: Agree. The UN has allowed Terrorism and violence in Africa to boom. Only Trump and Netanyahu are saving the world. ohh come on - you're trolling?   :) Do you think Anus Albo is saving Australia from Terrorism? Do you think he is help saving the world with his selfies behind a bar in Canada? Albo doesn't know.   ::) Putin went into Ukraine without discussing it at the UN - it seems Trump has done the same in Venezuela. The new world order says – 'might is right.'

What compared to the old world,

Hamas discussed with the UN before going into Israel
Iraq discussed with UN before going into Kuwait
Argentina discussed with UN before going into Falklands
Indonesia discussed with UN before going into Timor

Leroy wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 12:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 12:21pm: Jasin wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 12:15pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 12:06pm: Jasin wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 12:03pm: Agree. The UN has allowed Terrorism and violence in Africa to boom. Only Trump and Netanyahu are saving the world. ohh come on - you're trolling?   :) Do you think Anus Albo is saving Australia from Terrorism? Do you think he is help saving the world with his selfies behind a bar in Canada? Albo doesn't know.   ::) Putin went into Ukraine without discussing it at the UN - it seems Trump has done the same in Venezuela. The new world order says – 'might is right.' What compared to the old world, Hamas discussed with the UN before going into Israel Iraq discussed with UN before going into Kuwait Argentina discussed with UN before going into Falklands Indonesia discussed with UN before going into Timor

You have a good point -

then why not close down the UN?

New World Order of Politics and all that is Right in the world.
Big Brother Media and all that is Left in the world.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 8:47am:

Every leader from Julius caesar thru all the english French kings, Napoleon. Genghis, the leaders of WW 1 and 2 fought wars to secure resources. Only a brain dead leadership like Australia...

The rulers you reference above weren't leaders, they were emperors - a title reserved for those who couldn't rule with the divine right of kings, or in the case of Rome, the votes of Senators. The rules changed after the Congress of Vienna and the revolutions of 1848. From here on in, nation states were granted borders. Their subjects were granted citizenship and eventually, the right to vote for their leaders.

Leaders were no longer selected through birthright, but by popular consent. Today, your hero, the "noble Vlad", goes to great lengths to create the sham of popular assent. He runs the media, the judiciary and the elections. He aspires to emperor status too, putting the crest of Peter the Great on his own homes as a subtle reminder as to the kind of guy you're dealing with.

Vlad's empire encompasses Russia, Belarus, Georgia, Chechnya and much of Central Asia. He has (or had) alliances with the countries G W Bush defined as the axis of evil, excluding Iraq: North Korea, Iran, Syria and Venezuela.

This was all going along swimmingly, until one day, he decided to go and invade Ukraine. With his own troops and even North Korea's bogged down in Ukraine, he could no longer hold Syria. Now, your DL's gone and taken Venezuela.

This isn't about peace through strength, an Orwellian term if there ever was one, it's brute imperialism. Venezuela poses no threat to the US at all, as everybody knows.

Americans instinctively balk at colonialism - precisely why they fought a revolution and established a republic that would go on to remake the world.

The US saved Europe in two world wars. Its foreign policy led the end of the British empire and independence for dozens of former British colonies. Its currency, matched by the gold it seized during WWII, kept a system of global trade going after WWII, and allowed nations, victors and vanquished alike, to rebuild and prosper. This was seen to be in everybody's mutual interest.

The US mediated disputes through foreign policy, largely trade deals and diplomacy. It found that when it did use force, this would come back to bite the US.

The weak, as Mao said, paraphrasing the Chinese classics, will overcome the strong. Vietnam showed this on the nightly news in full colour. A generation shifted their views on war and the use of excessive militarism. Your own DL was one.

The overuse of force brought down the USSR. Occupations of Hungary, Czechoslovakia and ultimately Afghanistan saw the Soviets become fossilised within an oppressive militaristic regime. When one crack in the wall came in East Germany, the empire ultimately came down, unable to maintain its weight through force alone. The US won the Cold War.

This made the US the defacto leader of the world, and think of the influence. In the early 90s, US culture, business and technology prevailed. US money flowed into Russia to snap up newly privatised industries.

Putin would eventually seize these spoils back, dispensing them to his old St Petersburg Mafia friends, the new Russian oligarchs. Putin popularised a form of croney capitalism by no means new, but coated it in Christian nationalism and a host of reactionary grievances. Nobody was listening more closely than your DL.

After winning the Cold War, the Americans got bored. The EU was poaching many of the former Soviet satellites, so they looked to the Middle East, an oil-rich cash cow. 9/11 gave them popular assent to do so.

In the era of Trump, we can look back to the neocons and their Project for an American Century as benign, well-meaning ideologues. They really did want to spread democracy and free trade, albeit vetted by Washington. They wanted markets for American goods and services, believing these would in themselves bring peace and prosperity: Ford, Starbucks, Facebook, Booking.com. They would tame humanity's worst instincts through capitalism, aspiration and economic empowerment, propelling the rise of democracy, the evolution of human rights, the end of history.

Read any of Freediver's posts from the early 2000s and you'll get the gist. Things, he said, were on the up and up. We begged to differ.

Whether these aims were never properly implemented or were thwarted by tribalism and corruption, the dream died during the Global Financial Crisis, the Coalition too broke to pay for its endless wars.

The invasion of Venezuela feigns no such ideals. There's not even a Coalition, just unabashed American conquest. DL's invasion of Venezuela marks his deliberate descent into a new era of imperialism. It has destroyed any credibility the US retained after they elected your DL.

Countries like Australia are the last bastions of democracy, consensus and the peaceful rules-based order. We can only prosper during peace, we now need to survive in a hostile world. Our traditional allies can no longer be seen as friends. The post war order is crashing down before our eyes.

And do you know? Vlad, no doubt fuming over the invasion of Venezuela, agrees. He's given Fico, the Russian-backed PM of Slovakia, the mic.

Vlad thinks the end of the rules-based order is good.

You?

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2026 at 8:53pm:

Maduro is a gangster drug dealer - responsible for the deaths of 100s of 1000s of Americans. Trump is gunna put him on trial and hang em,  and hang em high.

I'm not reading much evidence in the unsealed indictment, Bobby.

I invite you to go through the linked sealed superseding released by the DOJ. There aren't many facts in there, just allegations of conspiracy, but I'm curious.

If your DL is so keen to hang drug traffickers, why did he just release Juan Orlando Hernandez, convicted for smuggling 400 tons of cocaine into the US?

Your DL has just gone to all the trouble of invading a foreign country, killing hundreds and kidnapping a foreign prez with no real evidence that he's involved in drug exportation at all.

Last month, Hernandez was doing 45 years in jail after a six year operation and the full cooperation of the Honduran authorities. Your DL just let him go.

And if you're thinking Hernandez was just a corrupt sting by Crooked Joe Biden, Hernandez's own brother was already busted with the goods in Florida, fessed up and ratted out Hernandez. He was so banged to rights, Honduran authorities were forced to extradite their own prez, after two Supreme Court hearings confirmed the facts.

Hernandez is now back in his compound in Tegucigalpa, planning his next job and laughing with his boys about what a dumb gringo your DL is.

What's worse is Nasry Asfura just got elected Honduran prez. He's Hernandez's buddy, the former Tegucigalpa mayor
and convicted of stealing more than a mil in city funds. With Asfura in charge, Hernandez will have all the military support and intelligence he needs to get the coke moving again.

It's a dream job. He doesn't even need to turn up to the office to do prez duties, he can just focus on the business.

So what's your DL up to? Is he just planning on convicting and pardoning Maduro too, or is there another angle at play here?

What?

Venezuelans are now exhibiting happiness to news crews.

This is Putin's merry Christmas. Donald has sabotaged Ukraine and Europe. Now he's demolishing any US status that's left.  And justified invasion. Win, winning big.

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 5:03am:

The US is losing 300,000 people a year to drugs run in my Maduro and his cartels… thats War

No, dear, that's business. If it's war, you'd need Congressional approval to fight it, as per the US Constitution.

If it's just a quick quiet military action, you need to inform Congress within 48 hours, as per US federal law.

Obviously, if you're deposing a foreign prez and plan to run a foreign government, you need a declaration of war. That's per various conventions under international law.

Your DL did none of those things, but let's get to your important mission of saving American lives.

Venezuela is not used as a known export route to the US. Its illegal gangs distribute cocaine from Columbia, via Jamaica, to Europe.

In the US, the main cause of overdose is fentanyl, leading to over 80% of deaths by overdose.

Most deaths involving cocaine use are caused by interaction with another drug. In 2021, for example, overdose on cocaine alone led to 8000 deaths.

2021 had a covid-related peak in overdose deaths for a host of reasons, including increased drug use and lack of emergency services. This isn't typical, but shows the impossibility of Maduro causing 300,000 deaths a year.

This is why your DL's action in Venezuela has been driven by executive order alone. It would be impossible to designate the Venezuelan government as a terrorist organisation or the cause of any threat to US security at all if facts had to be presented to Congress and approved. All his claims have been bogus. How do we know?

The US National Intelligence Council informed your DL of these facts in April, stating:

“While Venezuela’s permissive environment enables [Tren de Aragua, or TDA] to operate, the Maduro regime probably does not have a policy of cooperating with TDA and is not directing TDA movement to and operations in the United States."

But that's okay. We all know your DL doesn't take security briefings anymore.

SCOTUS have given him the right to carry out any action he likes, including sending the Navy Seals in to take out his political enemies. Basically, your DL is now free to kill as many people as he wants. Where do you think he'll go after he's taken out Venezuela?

They never stop at one. I'd say he'll want a lot more blood before he's through.

You?

chimera wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 3:04pm:

This is Putin's merry Christmas. Donald has sabotaged Ukraine and Europe. Now he's demolishing any US status that's left.  And justified invasion. Win, winning big.

Maduro is Putin's love child, dear. Vlad can't get enough of him.

I'd say the big fella won't be looking forward to his next call with Vlad. He's going to have a lot of explaining to do.

Naughty naughty, no? I wonder if we'll get to see Vlad's kompromat.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 12:32pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 12:27pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 12:21pm: Jasin wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 12:15pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 12:06pm: Jasin wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 12:03pm: Agree. The UN has allowed Terrorism and violence in Africa to boom. Only Trump and Netanyahu are saving the world. ohh come on - you're trolling?   :) Do you think Anus Albo is saving Australia from Terrorism? Do you think he is help saving the world with his selfies behind a bar in Canada? Albo doesn't know.   ::) Putin went into Ukraine without discussing it at the UN - it seems Trump has done the same in Venezuela. The new world order says – 'might is right.' What compared to the old world, Hamas discussed with the UN before going into Israel Iraq discussed with UN before going into Kuwait Argentina discussed with UN before going into Falklands Indonesia discussed with UN before going into Timor You have a good point - then why not close down the UN?

You gave up too easily.

The UN was supposed to usher in a new world under a rules-based system to replace the old world's 'might is right' system which carries the risk of civilizational extinction in the age of MAD.

Better to reform the UN than close it down. 

I have no compassion for Maduro or his wife. He is a murderous dictator and deserves to spend the rest of his days in prison. However, what Trump has done is blatantly illegal. He had absolutely zero justification for invading another country and abducting its leader, no matter how much Maduro is hated. In order to carry out the kind of military action that just took place, the President is required by the Constitution to seek approval from Congress. Trump has said he doesn’t need it, but just because he says so doesn’t make it legal.

I think/hope that we will soon see Trump impeached for a third time, and this time he will be convicted. I think there will be enough Republicans to vote with Democrats to see this succeed because of the mid-term elections coming up in nine months and having seen Democrats sweep aside numerous Republicans in seats that were previously very pro-Trump, they will be fearful for their re-election. Trump belongs in prison, not the White House. So does his SecDef Pete Hegseth.

Big Donger wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 3:40pm:

I'd say the big fella won't be looking forward to his next call with Vlad. He's going to have a lot of explaining to do.

Big fella may ask where is Russia's support when you need it. Putin had no skin in the drug boat battle and so loses no prestige. He can now stand distantly and condemn the unlawful US invasion and smell like roses himself. If it can get worse, Trump will do it.

chimera wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 4:24pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 3:40pm: I'd say the big fella won't be looking forward to his next call with Vlad. He's going to have a lot of explaining to do. Big fella may ask where is Russia's support when you need it. Putin had no skin in the drug boat battle and so loses no prestige. He can only stand distantly and condemn the unlawful US invasion and smell like roses himself. If it can get worse, Trump will do it.

I read a news article that said Maduro took delivery fairly recently of Chinese air defence radars and that they were operational last night and have been for some time. Clearly, they didn’t detect the U.S. air assets until it was already too late. This proves that Chinese air defence radars still aren’t able to detect stealth aircraft such as the F-35 and F-22.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 4:27pm:

I read a news article that said Maduro took delivery fairly recently of Chinese air defence radars and that they were operational last night and have been for some time. Clearly, they didn’t detect the U.S. air assets until it was already too late. This proves that Chinese air defence radars still aren’t able to detect stealth aircraft such as the F-35 and F-22.

They also have $6 billion worth of Russian air defences they haven't paid for.

It doesn't work why would anyone buy that crap.

The helmet used by F35 pilots is mostly Israeli tech which the Greens want to boycott.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 4:27pm:

chimera wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 4:24pm: Big Donger wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 3:40pm: I'd say the big fella won't be looking forward to his next call with Vlad. He's going to have a lot of explaining to do. Big fella may ask where is Russia's support when you need it. Putin had no skin in the drug boat battle and so loses no prestige. He can only stand distantly and condemn the unlawful US invasion and smell like roses himself. If it can get worse, Trump will do it. I read a news article that said Maduro took delivery fairly recently of Chinese air defence radars and that they were operational last night and have been for some time. Clearly, they didn’t detect the U.S. air assets until it was already too late. This proves that Chinese air defence radars still aren’t able to detect stealth aircraft such as the F-35 and F-22.

No it doesn't it only proves that Maduro did not have the resources and expertise to use them. Without fully trained experienced operators they are useless.

Big Donger wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 3:32pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 5:03am: The US is losing 300,000 people a year to drugs run in my Maduro and his cartels… thats War No, dear, that's business. If it's war, you'd need Congressional approval to fight it, as per the US Constitution. If it's just a quick quiet military action, you need to inform Congress within 48 hours, as per US federal law. Obviously, if you're deposing a foreign prez and plan to run a foreign government, you need a declaration of war. That's per various conventions under international law. Your DL did none of those things, but let's get to your important mission of saving American lives. Venezuela is not used as a known export route to the US. Its illegal gangs distribute cocaine from Columbia, via Jamaica, to Europe. In the US, the main cause of overdose is fentanyl, leading to over 80% of deaths by overdose. Most deaths involving cocaine use are caused by interaction with another drug. In 2021, for example, overdose on cocaine alone led to 8000 deaths. 2021 had a covid-related peak in overdose deaths for a host of reasons, including increased drug use and lack of emergency services. This isn't typical, but shows the impossibility of Maduro causing 300,000 deaths a year. This is why your DL's action in Venezuela has been driven by executive order alone. It would be impossible to designate the Venezuelan government as a terrorist organisation or the cause of any threat to US security at all if facts had to be presented to Congress and approved. All his claims have been bogus. How do we know? The US National Intelligence Council informed your DL of these facts in April, stating: “While Venezuela’s permissive environment enables [Tren de Aragua, or TDA] to operate, the Maduro regime probably does not have a policy of cooperating with TDA and is not directing TDA movement to and operations in the United States." But that's okay. We all know your DL doesn't take security briefings anymore. SCOTUS have given him the right to carry out any action he likes, including sending the Navy Seals in to take out his political enemies. Basically, your DL is now free to kill as many people as he wants. Where do you think he'll go after he's taken out Venezuela? They never stop at one. I'd say he'll want a lot more blood before he's through. You?

Sure M8……  ::)

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SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 4:52pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 3:32pm: SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 5:03am: The US is losing 300,000 people a year to drugs run in my Maduro and his cartels… thats War No, dear, that's business. If it's war, you'd need Congressional approval to fight it, as per the US Constitution. If it's just a quick quiet military action, you need to inform Congress within 48 hours, as per US federal law. Obviously, if you're deposing a foreign prez and plan to run a foreign government, you need a declaration of war. That's per various conventions under international law. Your DL did none of those things, but let's get to your important mission of saving American lives. Venezuela is not used as a known export route to the US. Its illegal gangs distribute cocaine from Columbia, via Jamaica, to Europe. In the US, the main cause of overdose is fentanyl, leading to over 80% of deaths by overdose. Most deaths involving cocaine use are caused by interaction with another drug. In 2021, for example, overdose on cocaine alone led to 8000 deaths. 2021 had a covid-related peak in overdose deaths for a host of reasons, including increased drug use and lack of emergency services. This isn't typical, but shows the impossibility of Maduro causing 300,000 deaths a year. This is why your DL's action in Venezuela has been driven by executive order alone. It would be impossible to designate the Venezuelan government as a terrorist organisation or the cause of any threat to US security at all if facts had to be presented to Congress and approved. All his claims have been bogus. How do we know? The US National Intelligence Council informed your DL of these facts in April, stating: “While Venezuela’s permissive environment enables [Tren de Aragua, or TDA] to operate, the Maduro regime probably does not have a policy of cooperating with TDA and is not directing TDA movement to and operations in the United States." But that's okay. We all know your DL doesn't take security briefings anymore. SCOTUS have given him the right to carry out any action he likes, including sending the Navy Seals in to take out his political enemies. Basically, your DL is now free to kill as many people as he wants. Where do you think he'll go after he's taken out Venezuela? They never stop at one. I'd say he'll want a lot more blood before he's through. You? Sure M8……  ::)

How do you explain Trump giving a pardon to the former President of Honduras but invading Venezuela to abduct Maduro while claiming it’s all about drugs? You can’t! By the way, Obama was targeting terrorists, not drug dealers or their enablers, like Trump is.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 4:15pm:

I have no compassion for Maduro or his wife. He is a murderous dictator and deserves to spend the rest of his days in prison. However, what Trump has done is blatantly illegal. He had absolutely zero justification for invading another country and abducting its leader, no matter how much Maduro is hated. In order to carry out the kind of military action that just took place, the President is required by the Constitution to seek approval from Congress. Trump has said he doesn’t need it, but just because he says so doesn’t make it legal. I think/hope that we will soon see Trump impeached for a third time, and this time he will be convicted. I think there will be enough Republicans to vote with Democrats to see this succeed because of the mid-term elections coming up in nine months and having seen Democrats sweep aside numerous Republicans in seats that were previously very pro-Trump, they will be fearful for their re-election. Trump belongs in prison, not the White House. So does his SecDef Pete Hegseth.

Get off the drink you plonka …  ;D

Not one leak in this operation - you know why?

Because Democrats and the UK government didnt know about it until last minute ..

And they tried to warn Maduro at the last minute but he was already in US custody…

This is one of the best military operations in history … just brilliant..

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 4:56pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 4:52pm: Big Donger wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 3:32pm: SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 5:03am: The US is losing 300,000 people a year to drugs run in my Maduro and his cartels… thats War No, dear, that's business. If it's war, you'd need Congressional approval to fight it, as per the US Constitution. If it's just a quick quiet military action, you need to inform Congress within 48 hours, as per US federal law. Obviously, if you're deposing a foreign prez and plan to run a foreign government, you need a declaration of war. That's per various conventions under international law. Your DL did none of those things, but let's get to your important mission of saving American lives. Venezuela is not used as a known export route to the US. Its illegal gangs distribute cocaine from Columbia, via Jamaica, to Europe. In the US, the main cause of overdose is fentanyl, leading to over 80% of deaths by overdose. Most deaths involving cocaine use are caused by interaction with another drug. In 2021, for example, overdose on cocaine alone led to 8000 deaths. 2021 had a covid-related peak in overdose deaths for a host of reasons, including increased drug use and lack of emergency services. This isn't typical, but shows the impossibility of Maduro causing 300,000 deaths a year. This is why your DL's action in Venezuela has been driven by executive order alone. It would be impossible to designate the Venezuelan government as a terrorist organisation or the cause of any threat to US security at all if facts had to be presented to Congress and approved. All his claims have been bogus. How do we know? The US National Intelligence Council informed your DL of these facts in April, stating: “While Venezuela’s permissive environment enables [Tren de Aragua, or TDA] to operate, the Maduro regime probably does not have a policy of cooperating with TDA and is not directing TDA movement to and operations in the United States." But that's okay. We all know your DL doesn't take security briefings anymore. SCOTUS have given him the right to carry out any action he likes, including sending the Navy Seals in to take out his political enemies. Basically, your DL is now free to kill as many people as he wants. Where do you think he'll go after he's taken out Venezuela? They never stop at one. I'd say he'll want a lot more blood before he's through. You? Sure M8……  ::) How do you explain Trump giving a pardon to the former President of Honduras but invading Venezuela to abduct Maduro while claiming it’s all about drugs? You can’t! By the way, Obama was targeting terrorists, not drug dealers or their enablers, like Trump is.

You are so far behind its not even funny  ::)

And yes - it was more than just killing 300,000 Americans a year with drugs …

Election Rigging out of Venezuela for Democrats is about to come to an end…  ;)

Hopefully Trump rounds up the Traitorous Commie POS in Australia as well…

Labor/Greens/Teals/Liberals

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SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 5:02pm:

And yes - it was more than just killing 300,000 Americans a year with drugs …

Those guys spent $100-150 billion of their own cash for the stuff. A free market, like Trump Real Estate. No-one shoved it down anyone's throat.  China is too successful in trade and must be hit hard by Trump the Winner.

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 4:59pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 4:15pm: I have no compassion for Maduro or his wife. He is a murderous dictator and deserves to spend the rest of his days in prison. However, what Trump has done is blatantly illegal. He had absolutely zero justification for invading another country and abducting its leader, no matter how much Maduro is hated. In order to carry out the kind of military action that just took place, the President is required by the Constitution to seek approval from Congress. Trump has said he doesn’t need it, but just because he says so doesn’t make it legal. I think/hope that we will soon see Trump impeached for a third time, and this time he will be convicted. I think there will be enough Republicans to vote with Democrats to see this succeed because of the mid-term elections coming up in nine months and having seen Democrats sweep aside numerous Republicans in seats that were previously very pro-Trump, they will be fearful for their re-election. Trump belongs in prison, not the White House. So does his SecDef Pete Hegseth. Get off the drink you plonka …  ;D Not one leak in this operation - you know why? Because Democrats and the UK government didnt know about it until last minute .. And they tried to warn Maduro at the last minute but he was already in US custody… This is one of the best military operations in history … just brilliant..

I’m actually impressed there were no leaks. It seems that just maybe Hegseth has learned from the Signal chat fiasco that should have cost him his job. I reckon that maybe Trump took Pete’s phone away from him!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 5:25pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 4:59pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 4:15pm: I have no compassion for Maduro or his wife. He is a murderous dictator and deserves to spend the rest of his days in prison. However, what Trump has done is blatantly illegal. He had absolutely zero justification for invading another country and abducting its leader, no matter how much Maduro is hated. In order to carry out the kind of military action that just took place, the President is required by the Constitution to seek approval from Congress. Trump has said he doesn’t need it, but just because he says so doesn’t make it legal. I think/hope that we will soon see Trump impeached for a third time, and this time he will be convicted. I think there will be enough Republicans to vote with Democrats to see this succeed because of the mid-term elections coming up in nine months and having seen Democrats sweep aside numerous Republicans in seats that were previously very pro-Trump, they will be fearful for their re-election. Trump belongs in prison, not the White House. So does his SecDef Pete Hegseth. Get off the drink you plonka …  ;D Not one leak in this operation - you know why? Because Democrats and the UK government didnt know about it until last minute .. And they tried to warn Maduro at the last minute but he was already in US custody… This is one of the best military operations in history … just brilliant.. I’m actually impressed there were no leaks. It seems that just maybe Hegseth has learned from the Signal chat fiasco that should have cost him his job. I reckon that maybe Trump took Pete’s phone away from him!

Keep in mind that Russia put “AT LEAST” 6 Billion Dollars of Military Hardware on USAs doorstep…

Russia, China, Iran were using Venezuela as a proxy state to launch 🚀 termite missions to weaken and undermine US authority etc etc etc …

To sit back and do nothing would have been a dereliction of duty …

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 5:51pm:

Venezuela as a proxy state to launch 🚀 termite missions

'Operation Termite (Malaya): A 1950s British operation during the Malayan Emergency, involving ground troops, bombers , and helicopters to clear communist forces from valleys'.
Termites were detected in the Trump Ballroom which has been fumigated and destroyed.

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 5:02pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 4:56pm: SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 4:52pm: Big Donger wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 3:32pm: SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 5:03am: The US is losing 300,000 people a year to drugs run in my Maduro and his cartels… thats War No, dear, that's business. If it's war, you'd need Congressional approval to fight it, as per the US Constitution. If it's just a quick quiet military action, you need to inform Congress within 48 hours, as per US federal law. Obviously, if you're deposing a foreign prez and plan to run a foreign government, you need a declaration of war. That's per various conventions under international law. Your DL did none of those things, but let's get to your important mission of saving American lives. Venezuela is not used as a known export route to the US. Its illegal gangs distribute cocaine from Columbia, via Jamaica, to Europe. In the US, the main cause of overdose is fentanyl, leading to over 80% of deaths by overdose. Most deaths involving cocaine use are caused by interaction with another drug. In 2021, for example, overdose on cocaine alone led to 8000 deaths. 2021 had a covid-related peak in overdose deaths for a host of reasons, including increased drug use and lack of emergency services. This isn't typical, but shows the impossibility of Maduro causing 300,000 deaths a year. This is why your DL's action in Venezuela has been driven by executive order alone. It would be impossible to designate the Venezuelan government as a terrorist organisation or the cause of any threat to US security at all if facts had to be presented to Congress and approved. All his claims have been bogus. How do we know? The US National Intelligence Council informed your DL of these facts in April, stating: “While Venezuela’s permissive environment enables [Tren de Aragua, or TDA] to operate, the Maduro regime probably does not have a policy of cooperating with TDA and is not directing TDA movement to and operations in the United States." But that's okay. We all know your DL doesn't take security briefings anymore. SCOTUS have given him the right to carry out any action he likes, including sending the Navy Seals in to take out his political enemies. Basically, your DL is now free to kill as many people as he wants. Where do you think he'll go after he's taken out Venezuela? They never stop at one. I'd say he'll want a lot more blood before he's through. You? Sure M8……  ::) How do you explain Trump giving a pardon to the former President of Honduras but invading Venezuela to abduct Maduro while claiming it’s all about drugs? You can’t! By the way, Obama was targeting terrorists, not drug dealers or their enablers, like Trump is. You are so far behind its not even funny  ::) And yes - it was more than just killing 300,000 Americans a year with drugs … Election Rigging out of Venezuela for Democrats is about to come to an end…  ;)

You really are a MAGA devotee. aren't you, Cerealbrain?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 6:36pm:

You really are a MAGA devotee. aren't you, Cerealbrain?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Anyone happy to see Venezuelians freed from Maduro are MAGA devotees eh Brian.

Leroy wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 6:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:36pm: You really are a MAGA devotee. aren't you, Cerealbrain?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Anyone happy to see Venezuelians freed from Maduro are MAGA devotees eh Brian.

Anyone that justifies it by supporting Trump's unwillingness to obey international law is a true MAGA devotee.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 6:47pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:39pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:36pm: You really are a MAGA devotee. aren't you, Cerealbrain?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Anyone happy to see Venezuelians freed from Maduro are MAGA devotees eh Brian. Anyone that justifies it by supporting Trump's unwillingness to obey international law is a true MAGA devotee.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Millions and millions of Venezuelians are supporting it and believe it to be just, they think it is the greatest thing to happen in their lifetime, are they all MAGA devotees.

Do you think these people should still live under Maduro's brutal dictatorship?.

Jan 4, 2026

America just toppled another regime. In this video,
former infantryman Chris Cappy breaks down how U.S. Delta Force captured Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro.

In a high-risk nighttime raid on Fort Tiuna, backed by a massive 150-aircraft SEAD air campaign that shut down Venezuela’s air defenses. We analyze the helicopters, cyber warfare, CIA intelligence, legality, and, most importantly, who is actually in control of Venezuela now after Maduro’s arrest.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC3tUZ1qGws

Leroy wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 6:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:47pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:39pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:36pm: You really are a MAGA devotee. aren't you, Cerealbrain?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Anyone happy to see Venezuelians freed from Maduro are MAGA devotees eh Brian. Anyone that justifies it by supporting Trump's unwillingness to obey international law is a true MAGA devotee.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Millions and millions of Venezuelians are supporting it and believe it to be just, they think it is the greatest thing to happen in their lifetime, are they all MAGA devotees. Do you think these people should still live under Maduro's brutal dictatorship?.

No, I just disagree with the method by which he was deposed.  I do not agree with the idea that Might makes Right.  Anybody agrees with me?  I hope so, or else I'll be very disappointed.  Tsk, rsk, tsk... ::) ::)

The real reason Venezuela matters.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgwny1BiCYk

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 7:20pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:47pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:39pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:36pm: You really are a MAGA devotee. aren't you, Cerealbrain?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Anyone happy to see Venezuelians freed from Maduro are MAGA devotees eh Brian. Anyone that justifies it by supporting Trump's unwillingness to obey international law is a true MAGA devotee.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Millions and millions of Venezuelians are supporting it and believe it to be just, they think it is the greatest thing to happen in their lifetime, are they all MAGA devotees. Do you think these people should still live under Maduro's brutal dictatorship?. No, I just disagree with the method by which he was deposed.  I do not agree with the idea that Might makes Right.  Anybody agrees with me?  I hope so, or else I'll be very disappointed.  Tsk, rsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Well Brian you tell us how he should have been deposed, would it have been better if the people of Venezuela had to fight the military that Maduro controlled with the 3000 generals he installed and thousands more die. They could protest but as thousands have already found out you will die. So Brian how do you propose the people of Venezuela should have been freed from Maduro or is your stance they should still be living under his brutal dictatorship. How do your laws help the people of Venezuela, what protection can your laws give them.

Leroy wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 7:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:20pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:47pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:39pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:36pm: You really are a MAGA devotee. aren't you, Cerealbrain?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Anyone happy to see Venezuelians freed from Maduro are MAGA devotees eh Brian. Anyone that justifies it by supporting Trump's unwillingness to obey international law is a true MAGA devotee.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Millions and millions of Venezuelians are supporting it and believe it to be just, they think it is the greatest thing to happen in their lifetime, are they all MAGA devotees. Do you think these people should still live under Maduro's brutal dictatorship?. No, I just disagree with the method by which he was deposed.  I do not agree with the idea that Might makes Right.  Anybody agrees with me?  I hope so, or else I'll be very disappointed.  Tsk, rsk, tsk... ::) ::) Well Brian you tell us how he should have been deposed, would it have been better if the people of Venezuela had to fight the military that Maduro controlled with the 3000 generals he installed and thousands more die. They could protest but as thousands have already found out you will die. So Brian how do you propose the people of Venezuela should have been freed from Maduro or is your stance they should still be living under his brutal dictatorship. How do your laws help the people of Venezuela, what protection can your laws give them.

Where do you get your figures from, Leroy?  I can find no reference to how many Generals Maduro promoted.  What I would have liked is an international coalition to take over Venezuela. Rather than an exploitative regime like Trump's.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Trump brazenly steals Venezuela's rare earths and the peanut gallery happily clap along.

Wonder if the old fruitbat will be so keen if anything happens to Denmark?

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 7:49pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:27pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:20pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:47pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:39pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:36pm: You really are a MAGA devotee. aren't you, Cerealbrain?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Anyone happy to see Venezuelians freed from Maduro are MAGA devotees eh Brian. Anyone that justifies it by supporting Trump's unwillingness to obey international law is a true MAGA devotee.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Millions and millions of Venezuelians are supporting it and believe it to be just, they think it is the greatest thing to happen in their lifetime, are they all MAGA devotees. Do you think these people should still live under Maduro's brutal dictatorship?. No, I just disagree with the method by which he was deposed.  I do not agree with the idea that Might makes Right.  Anybody agrees with me?  I hope so, or else I'll be very disappointed.  Tsk, rsk, tsk... ::) ::) Well Brian you tell us how he should have been deposed, would it have been better if the people of Venezuela had to fight the military that Maduro controlled with the 3000 generals he installed and thousands more die. They could protest but as thousands have already found out you will die. So Brian how do you propose the people of Venezuela should have been freed from Maduro or is your stance they should still be living under his brutal dictatorship. How do your laws help the people of Venezuela, what protection can your laws give them. Where do you get your figures from, Leroy?  I can find no reference to how many Generals Maduro promoted.  What I would have liked is an international coalition to take over Venezuela. Rather than an exploitative regime like Trump's.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

You would have liked a international coalition to take over Venezuela, and how would that have worked Brian, they send him a nice email asking for him to stand aside and let them take over. You said you were in the military. lets see what you learned in that time.
What chance in hell do you think that Maduro would ever allow a peaceful takeover from an international coalition.
So how would this international coalition take control from Maduro because we both know it would not be a peaceful transition.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 7:21pm:

The real reason Venezuela matters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgwny1BiCYk

China and Russia get oil from Venezuela maybe they will have to look somewhere else.
Do you understand the significance of this?

There is a demand for a certain amount of oil if Venezuela increases exports will the Arab countries decrease exports?

Incresed competition for sales will see oil prices drop which will help everyone.

Don't believe everything you hear in the fake news i stopped listening when they started bullshitting in your vid.

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Leroy wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 8:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:49pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:27pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:20pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:47pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:39pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:36pm: You really are a MAGA devotee. aren't you, Cerealbrain?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Anyone happy to see Venezuelians freed from Maduro are MAGA devotees eh Brian. Anyone that justifies it by supporting Trump's unwillingness to obey international law is a true MAGA devotee.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Millions and millions of Venezuelians are supporting it and believe it to be just, they think it is the greatest thing to happen in their lifetime, are they all MAGA devotees. Do you think these people should still live under Maduro's brutal dictatorship?. No, I just disagree with the method by which he was deposed.  I do not agree with the idea that Might makes Right.  Anybody agrees with me?  I hope so, or else I'll be very disappointed.  Tsk, rsk, tsk... ::) ::) Well Brian you tell us how he should have been deposed, would it have been better if the people of Venezuela had to fight the military that Maduro controlled with the 3000 generals he installed and thousands more die. They could protest but as thousands have already found out you will die. So Brian how do you propose the people of Venezuela should have been freed from Maduro or is your stance they should still be living under his brutal dictatorship. How do your laws help the people of Venezuela, what protection can your laws give them. Where do you get your figures from, Leroy?  I can find no reference to how many Generals Maduro promoted.  What I would have liked is an international coalition to take over Venezuela. Rather than an exploitative regime like Trump's.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) You would have liked a international coalition to take over Venezuela, and how would that have worked Brian, they send him a nice email asking for him to stand aside and let them take over. You said you were in the military. lets see what you learned in that time. What chance in hell do you think that Maduro would ever allow a peaceful takeover from an international coalition. So how would this international coalition take control from Maduro because we both know it would not be a peaceful transition.

He would discover if he attempted to resist that he would be met with force. You are assuming I'm automatically against the use of force.  I am not.  I'm just against its use by the US unilaterally.  The US does things to benefit itself first and foremost.  An international coalition would make sure it was done for the good of the venezuelans. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 8:28pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:02pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:49pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:27pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:20pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:47pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:39pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:36pm: You really are a MAGA devotee. aren't you, Cerealbrain?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Anyone happy to see Venezuelians freed from Maduro are MAGA devotees eh Brian. Anyone that justifies it by supporting Trump's unwillingness to obey international law is a true MAGA devotee.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Millions and millions of Venezuelians are supporting it and believe it to be just, they think it is the greatest thing to happen in their lifetime, are they all MAGA devotees. Do you think these people should still live under Maduro's brutal dictatorship?. No, I just disagree with the method by which he was deposed.  I do not agree with the idea that Might makes Right.  Anybody agrees with me?  I hope so, or else I'll be very disappointed.  Tsk, rsk, tsk... ::) ::) Well Brian you tell us how he should have been deposed, would it have been better if the people of Venezuela had to fight the military that Maduro controlled with the 3000 generals he installed and thousands more die. They could protest but as thousands have already found out you will die. So Brian how do you propose the people of Venezuela should have been freed from Maduro or is your stance they should still be living under his brutal dictatorship. How do your laws help the people of Venezuela, what protection can your laws give them. Where do you get your figures from, Leroy?  I can find no reference to how many Generals Maduro promoted.  What I would have liked is an international coalition to take over Venezuela. Rather than an exploitative regime like Trump's.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) You would have liked a international coalition to take over Venezuela, and how would that have worked Brian, they send him a nice email asking for him to stand aside and let them take over. You said you were in the military. lets see what you learned in that time. What chance in hell do you think that Maduro would ever allow a peaceful takeover from an international coalition. So how would this international coalition take control from Maduro because we both know it would not be a peaceful transition. He would discover if he attempted to resist that he would be met with force. You are assuming I'm automatically against the use of force.  I am not.  I'm just against its use by the US unilaterally.  The US does things to benefit itself first and foremost.  An international coalition would make sure it was done for the good of the venezuelans. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

There are no laws that would allow the international coalition to use force, and if they did it would mean the loss of thousands of lives, is that your preferred outcome?.

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 4:52pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 3:32pm: SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 5:03am: The US is losing 300,000 people a year to drugs run in my Maduro and his cartels… thats War No, dear, that's business. If it's war, you'd need Congressional approval to fight it, as per the US Constitution. If it's just a quick quiet military action, you need to inform Congress within 48 hours, as per US federal law. Obviously, if you're deposing a foreign prez and plan to run a foreign government, you need a declaration of war. That's per various conventions under international law. Your DL did none of those things, but let's get to your important mission of saving American lives. Venezuela is not used as a known export route to the US. Its illegal gangs distribute cocaine from Columbia, via Jamaica, to Europe. In the US, the main cause of overdose is fentanyl, leading to over 80% of deaths by overdose. Most deaths involving cocaine use are caused by interaction with another drug. In 2021, for example, overdose on cocaine alone led to 8000 deaths. 2021 had a covid-related peak in overdose deaths for a host of reasons, including increased drug use and lack of emergency services. This isn't typical, but shows the impossibility of Maduro causing 300,000 deaths a year. This is why your DL's action in Venezuela has been driven by executive order alone. It would be impossible to designate the Venezuelan government as a terrorist organisation or the cause of any threat to US security at all if facts had to be presented to Congress and approved. All his claims have been bogus. How do we know? The US National Intelligence Council informed your DL of these facts in April, stating: “While Venezuela’s permissive environment enables [Tren de Aragua, or TDA] to operate, the Maduro regime probably does not have a policy of cooperating with TDA and is not directing TDA movement to and operations in the United States." But that's okay. We all know your DL doesn't take security briefings anymore. SCOTUS have given him the right to carry out any action he likes, including sending the Navy Seals in to take out his political enemies. Basically, your DL is now free to kill as many people as he wants. Where do you think he'll go after he's taken out Venezuela? They never stop at one. I'd say he'll want a lot more blood before he's through. You? Sure M8……  ::)

Sorry?

Obama obtained Congressional approval for everything, you silly old thing.

Would you like to say something else?

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 5:05pm:

Hopefully Trump rounds up the Traitorous Commie POS in Australia as well… Labor/Greens/Teals/Liberals

Pay heed, leftards. Serial's DL is coming for you.

Leroy wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 8:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:28pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:02pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:49pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:27pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:20pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:47pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:39pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:36pm: You really are a MAGA devotee. aren't you, Cerealbrain?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Anyone happy to see Venezuelians freed from Maduro are MAGA devotees eh Brian. Anyone that justifies it by supporting Trump's unwillingness to obey international law is a true MAGA devotee.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Millions and millions of Venezuelians are supporting it and believe it to be just, they think it is the greatest thing to happen in their lifetime, are they all MAGA devotees. Do you think these people should still live under Maduro's brutal dictatorship?. No, I just disagree with the method by which he was deposed.  I do not agree with the idea that Might makes Right.  Anybody agrees with me?  I hope so, or else I'll be very disappointed.  Tsk, rsk, tsk... ::) ::) Well Brian you tell us how he should have been deposed, would it have been better if the people of Venezuela had to fight the military that Maduro controlled with the 3000 generals he installed and thousands more die. They could protest but as thousands have already found out you will die. So Brian how do you propose the people of Venezuela should have been freed from Maduro or is your stance they should still be living under his brutal dictatorship. How do your laws help the people of Venezuela, what protection can your laws give them. Where do you get your figures from, Leroy?  I can find no reference to how many Generals Maduro promoted.  What I would have liked is an international coalition to take over Venezuela. Rather than an exploitative regime like Trump's.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) You would have liked a international coalition to take over Venezuela, and how would that have worked Brian, they send him a nice email asking for him to stand aside and let them take over. You said you were in the military. lets see what you learned in that time. What chance in hell do you think that Maduro would ever allow a peaceful takeover from an international coalition. So how would this international coalition take control from Maduro because we both know it would not be a peaceful transition. He would discover if he attempted to resist that he would be met with force. You are assuming I'm automatically against the use of force.  I am not.  I'm just against its use by the US unilaterally.  The US does things to benefit itself first and foremost.  An international coalition would make sure it was done for the good of the venezuelans. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) There are no laws that would allow the international coalition to use force, and if they did it would mean the loss of thousands of lives, is that your preferred outcome?.

There were sufficient international laws to allow Iraq to be resisted when it invaded Kuwait, or when NATO invaded Serbia, or when the UN Coalition invaded Iraq the second time or Afghanistan.  The UN provided quite a fig leaf if it is used properly.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 8:28pm:

He would discover if he attempted to resist that he would be met with force. You are assuming I'm automatically against the use of force.  I am not.  I'm just against its use by the US unilaterally.  The US does things to benefit itself first and foremost.  An international coalition would make sure it was done for the good of the venezuelans. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

How about Venezuelans doing things that benefit Venezuelans?  Why don't THEY do it? Why does everyone else, the 'international community' need to do things to benefit the Venezuelans?  Every shithole country, full of shithole people, is ruined and then they are bleating for the 'international community' to rescue them from themselves.
Venezuelans are idiots who have been taken in by socialist idiots exploiting their oil wealth. Norway, a similarly oil rich country but NOT filled with shifhole people didnt succumb to the temptations of shithole socialism.
People of each country make ALL the difference. poo people, poo country. Good people, good country.

OH, boo-hoo, boo-hoo, Soren.  My heart bleeds for you.   Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Frank wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 9:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:28pm: He would discover if he attempted to resist that he would be met with force. You are assuming I'm automatically against the use of force.  I am not.  I'm just against its use by the US unilaterally.  The US does things to benefit itself first and foremost.  An international coalition would make sure it was done for the good of the venezuelans. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) How about Venezuelans doing things that benefit Venezuelans?  Why don't THEY do it? Why does everyone else, the 'international community' need to do things to benefit the Venezuelans?  Every shithole country, full of shithole people, is ruined and then they are bleating for the 'international community' to rescue them from themselves. Venezuelans are idiots who have been taken in by socialist idiots exploiting their oil wealth. Norway, a similarly oil rich country but NOT filled with shifhole people didnt succumb to the temptations of shithole socialism. People of each country make ALL the difference. poo people, poo country. Good people, good country.

HOLY SMOKES. In an incredible moment, Sec. Marco Rubio declares the Western Hemisphere is OURS, Russia, China and Iran must GET OUT

WELKER: Why does the US need Venezuelan oil?!

RUBIO: "Why does CHINA need their oil? Russia? Iran? This is the West, THIS IS WHERE WE LIVE."🔥

"They are NOT going to come from outside of our hemisphere, destabilize our region in our own backyard and us have to pay the price for it. Not under President Trump!"

"This is deeply destabilizing stuff. It's not going to continue to happen!"

MARCO IS GREAT 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸


https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2007830000435622170


Also
https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2007840065402159520

Frank wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 9:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:28pm: He would discover if he attempted to resist that he would be met with force. You are assuming I'm automatically against the use of force.  I am not.  I'm just against its use by the US unilaterally.  The US does things to benefit itself first and foremost.  An international coalition would make sure it was done for the good of the venezuelans. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) How about Venezuelans doing things that benefit Venezuelans?  Why don't THEY do it? Why does everyone else, the 'international community' need to do things to benefit the Venezuelans?  Every shithole country, full of shithole people, is ruined and then they are bleating for the 'international community' to rescue them from themselves. Venezuelans are idiots who have been taken in by socialist idiots exploiting their oil wealth. Norway, a similarly oil rich country but NOT filled with shifhole people didnt succumb to the temptations of shithole socialism. People of each country make ALL the difference. poo people, poo country. Good people, good country.

Yes Frank - it shows us why we need to stop communism.

40 people were murdered:


https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/1/4/venezuelans-divided-after-us-attack-and-maduros-abduction

4 Jan 2026

Venezuelans divided after US attack and Maduro’s abduction

Venezuelan officials say US air strikes killed at least 40 people,
destroyed parts of the capital and violated their national sovereignty with the abduction of President Nicolas Maduro. Venezuelans are divided between fear of ongoing US intervention and celebrating his removal.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FILdeZECZUU?feature=share

Leroy wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 8:11am:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FILdeZECZUU?feature=share

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vZhXardTCkU


And
https://x.com/PapiTrumpo/status/2007927104713933060

Frank wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 9:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:28pm: He would discover if he attempted to resist that he would be met with force. You are assuming I'm automatically against the use of force.  I am not.  I'm just against its use by the US unilaterally.  The US does things to benefit itself first and foremost.  An international coalition would make sure it was done for the good of the venezuelans. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) How about Venezuelans doing things that benefit Venezuelans?  Why don't THEY do it? Why does everyone else, the 'international community' need to do things to benefit the Venezuelans?  Every shithole country, full of shithole people, is ruined and then they are bleating for the 'international community' to rescue them from themselves. Venezuelans are idiots who have been taken in by socialist idiots exploiting their oil wealth. Norway, a similarly oil rich country but NOT filled with shifhole people didnt succumb to the temptations of shithole socialism. People of each country make ALL the difference. poo people, poo country. Good people, good country.

For the most part, Venezuelans are tanned, you ridiculous old fool. They never asked for your DL's help.

Only those after pardons do that, dear. Juan Hernandez is sitting pretty back in Honduras, planning his next shipment. Who knows?

DL may just pardon Maduro too, but who cares? Maduro is part of a system. The US can't change that. Venezuela's generals aren't going to give up power just because DL says.

Even the oil drills are rusted out - the result of an embargo, not socialism. Halliburton are going to want cash up front before they get involved, so the US taxpayer will need to front another one of your DL's vanity projects.

Drill baby drill, innit.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 5:11am:

Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 9:19pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:28pm: He would discover if he attempted to resist that he would be met with force. You are assuming I'm automatically against the use of force.  I am not.  I'm just against its use by the US unilaterally.  The US does things to benefit itself first and foremost.  An international coalition would make sure it was done for the good of the venezuelans. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) How about Venezuelans doing things that benefit Venezuelans?  Why don't THEY do it? Why does everyone else, the 'international community' need to do things to benefit the Venezuelans?  Every shithole country, full of shithole people, is ruined and then they are bleating for the 'international community' to rescue them from themselves. Venezuelans are idiots who have been taken in by socialist idiots exploiting their oil wealth. Norway, a similarly oil rich country but NOT filled with shifhole people didnt succumb to the temptations of shithole socialism. People of each country make ALL the difference. poo people, poo country. Good people, good country. Yes Frank - it shows us why we need to stop communism.

They're tinted.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2026 at 8:53pm:

Maduro is a gangster drug dealer - responsible for the deaths of 100s of 1000s of Americans. Trump is gunna put him on trial and hang em,  and hang em high.

Maybe he can buy some of Trump's meme coin and get a pardon?  That's what other drug dealers appear to do...

So much for the President of Peace or being anti-drugs.

The president of Venezuela has been arrested and will see the inside of the courtroom before anyone in the Epstein files, and MAGA are just cheering long...

Hopefully, Trump will be called as a witness and swear to tell the truth. He will be verified as a law-abiding citizen who upholds the law
(cough  gag)

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 8:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:21pm: The real reason Venezuela matters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgwny1BiCYk China and Russia get oil from Venezuela maybe they will have to look somewhere else. Do you understand the significance of this? There is a demand for a certain amount of oil if Venezuela increases exports will the Arab countries decrease exports? Incresed competition for sales will see oil prices drop which will help everyone. Don't believe everything you hear in the fake news i stopped listening when they started bullshitting in your vid.

Increased competition for sales?

OPEC decides the oil price, you silly old thing. Venezuela is a member. Member states are told to raise or lower their output according to the price or other - ahem - political factors.

Cunning, no?

One can control the speed of one's pump, dear.

Did you know?

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 6:14am:

40 people were murdered: https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/1/4/venezuelans-divided-after-us-attack-and-maduros-abduction 4 Jan 2026 Venezuelans divided after US attack and Maduro’s abduction Venezuelan officials say US air strikes killed at least 40 people, destroyed parts of the capital and violated their national sovereignty with the abduction of President Nicolas Maduro. Venezuelans are divided between fear of ongoing US intervention and celebrating his removal.

I add to this the other side of the equation:


Maduro is clearly an arsehole and needed to be put on trial.
Apart from all the hard drugs killing 10s of 1000s of Americans he allowed
the oilfields to fall into disrepair  - only wanting to collect higher and higher royalties
but unable to look after and maintain the equipment to extract it till nearly all of it stopped working -
and so he then denied his own people the money they desperately needed.
He also murdered his own people.

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 8:42pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:33pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:28pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:02pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:49pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:27pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:20pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:47pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:39pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:36pm: You really are a MAGA devotee. aren't you, Cerealbrain?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Anyone happy to see Venezuelians freed from Maduro are MAGA devotees eh Brian. Anyone that justifies it by supporting Trump's unwillingness to obey international law is a true MAGA devotee.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Millions and millions of Venezuelians are supporting it and believe it to be just, they think it is the greatest thing to happen in their lifetime, are they all MAGA devotees. Do you think these people should still live under Maduro's brutal dictatorship?. No, I just disagree with the method by which he was deposed.  I do not agree with the idea that Might makes Right.  Anybody agrees with me?  I hope so, or else I'll be very disappointed.  Tsk, rsk, tsk... ::) ::) Well Brian you tell us how he should have been deposed, would it have been better if the people of Venezuela had to fight the military that Maduro controlled with the 3000 generals he installed and thousands more die. They could protest but as thousands have already found out you will die. So Brian how do you propose the people of Venezuela should have been freed from Maduro or is your stance they should still be living under his brutal dictatorship. How do your laws help the people of Venezuela, what protection can your laws give them. Where do you get your figures from, Leroy?  I can find no reference to how many Generals Maduro promoted.  What I would have liked is an international coalition to take over Venezuela. Rather than an exploitative regime like Trump's.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) You would have liked a international coalition to take over Venezuela, and how would that have worked Brian, they send him a nice email asking for him to stand aside and let them take over. You said you were in the military. lets see what you learned in that time. What chance in hell do you think that Maduro would ever allow a peaceful takeover from an international coalition. So how would this international coalition take control from Maduro because we both know it would not be a peaceful transition. He would discover if he attempted to resist that he would be met with force. You are assuming I'm automatically against the use of force.  I am not.  I'm just against its use by the US unilaterally.  The US does things to benefit itself first and foremost.  An international coalition would make sure it was done for the good of the venezuelans. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) There are no laws that would allow the international coalition to use force, and if they did it would mean the loss of thousands of lives, is that your preferred outcome?. There were sufficient international laws to allow Iraq to be resisted when it invaded Kuwait, or when NATO invaded Serbia, or when the UN Coalition invaded Iraq the second time or Afghanistan.  The UN provided quite a fig leaf if it is used properly.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

I accept your white flag, Leroy, as you appear to have abandoned this thread.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 12:06pm:

Maduro is clearly an arsehole and needed to be put on trial.

A Manhattan trial of Maduro would be held just a few blocks from City Hall.

Will Mamdani commie supporters try to bust Maduro out of jail?

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 8:42pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:33pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:28pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:02pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:49pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:27pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 7:20pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:47pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:39pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 6:36pm: You really are a MAGA devotee. aren't you, Cerealbrain?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Anyone happy to see Venezuelians freed from Maduro are MAGA devotees eh Brian. Anyone that justifies it by supporting Trump's unwillingness to obey international law is a true MAGA devotee.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Millions and millions of Venezuelians are supporting it and believe it to be just, they think it is the greatest thing to happen in their lifetime, are they all MAGA devotees. Do you think these people should still live under Maduro's brutal dictatorship?. No, I just disagree with the method by which he was deposed.  I do not agree with the idea that Might makes Right.  Anybody agrees with me?  I hope so, or else I'll be very disappointed.  Tsk, rsk, tsk... ::) ::) Well Brian you tell us how he should have been deposed, would it have been better if the people of Venezuela had to fight the military that Maduro controlled with the 3000 generals he installed and thousands more die. They could protest but as thousands have already found out you will die. So Brian how do you propose the people of Venezuela should have been freed from Maduro or is your stance they should still be living under his brutal dictatorship. How do your laws help the people of Venezuela, what protection can your laws give them. Where do you get your figures from, Leroy?  I can find no reference to how many Generals Maduro promoted.  What I would have liked is an international coalition to take over Venezuela. Rather than an exploitative regime like Trump's.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) You would have liked a international coalition to take over Venezuela, and how would that have worked Brian, they send him a nice email asking for him to stand aside and let them take over. You said you were in the military. lets see what you learned in that time. What chance in hell do you think that Maduro would ever allow a peaceful takeover from an international coalition. So how would this international coalition take control from Maduro because we both know it would not be a peaceful transition. He would discover if he attempted to resist that he would be met with force. You are assuming I'm automatically against the use of force.  I am not.  I'm just against its use by the US unilaterally.  The US does things to benefit itself first and foremost.  An international coalition would make sure it was done for the good of the venezuelans. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) There are no laws that would allow the international coalition to use force, and if they did it would mean the loss of thousands of lives, is that your preferred outcome?. There were sufficient international laws to allow Iraq to be resisted when it invaded Kuwait, or when NATO invaded Serbia, or when the UN Coalition invaded Iraq the second time or Afghanistan.  The UN provided quite a fig leaf if it is used properly.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

What do you care, snivelling idiot - you are not Venezuelan.




Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 10:19pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:58pm: Stupid blather, as usual. Islam murdered 15 people on Bondi Beach - nuffin' to fear. 15 Jews.  I am not Jewish, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 12:06pm:

the oilfields to fall into disrepair  - only wanting to collect higher and higher royalties but unable to look after and maintain the equipment to extract it till nearly all of it stopped working -

Russia's roads and hospitals are derelict.  China will get the contract to run Siberia and the Oz high-speed rail and NSW-Vic. Trumpy gets Belarus-Moscow-Ukraine and starts pumping gas.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 12:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:14am: 40 people were murdered: https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/1/4/venezuelans-divided-after-us-attack-and-maduros-abduction 4 Jan 2026 Venezuelans divided after US attack and Maduro’s abduction Venezuelan officials say US air strikes killed at least 40 people, destroyed parts of the capital and violated their national sovereignty with the abduction of President Nicolas Maduro. Venezuelans are divided between fear of ongoing US intervention and celebrating his removal. I add to this the other side of the equation: Maduro is clearly an arsehole and needed to be put on trial. Apart from all the hard drugs killing 10s of 1000s of Americans he allowed the oilfields to fall into disrepair  - only wanting to collect higher and higher royalties but unable to look after and maintain the equipment to extract it till nearly all of it stopped working - and so he then denied his own people the money they desperately needed. He also murdered his own people.

I see. So you've read the indictment, have you?

They're not arresting him for being an arsehole, dear. The oil wells went into disrepair after Uncle embargoed Venezuelan oil. 

So, given you said Hernandez needed to be set free for smuggling 400 tons of coke into America, can you say why Maduro needs to be put on trial?

That's a question.

Big Donger wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 3:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 12:06pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:14am: 40 people were murdered: https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/1/4/venezuelans-divided-after-us-attack-and-maduros-abduction 4 Jan 2026 Venezuelans divided after US attack and Maduro’s abduction Venezuelan officials say US air strikes killed at least 40 people, destroyed parts of the capital and violated their national sovereignty with the abduction of President Nicolas Maduro. Venezuelans are divided between fear of ongoing US intervention and celebrating his removal. I add to this the other side of the equation: Maduro is clearly an arsehole and needed to be put on trial. Apart from all the hard drugs killing 10s of 1000s of Americans he allowed the oilfields to fall into disrepair  - only wanting to collect higher and higher royalties but unable to look after and maintain the equipment to extract it till nearly all of it stopped working - and so he then denied his own people the money they desperately needed. He also murdered his own people. I see. So you've read the indictment, have you? They're not arresting him for being an arsehole, dear. The oil wells went into disrepair after Uncle embargoed Venezuelan oil.  So, given you said Hernandez needed to be set free for smuggling 400 tons of coke into America, can you say why Maduro needs to be put on trial? That's a question.

Hernandez should have been hanged but .....

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-03/donald-trump-pardons-former-honduran-president-drug-trafficking/106095618

Trump,
And he said the US went after him "because the Biden-Harris DOJ pursued a political agenda to empower its ideological allies in Honduras".

Asked on Tuesday about his decision, Mr Trump characterised the case against Hernandez quite differently to how it was heard in court.

"They had some drugs being sold in their country and, because he was the president, they went after him," Mr Trump said.

"That was a Biden horrible witch-hunt."

He said "a lot of people in Honduras" asked him to pardon Hernandez.

"And I did it, and I feel very good about it."

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 3:56pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 3:48pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 12:06pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:14am: 40 people were murdered: https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/1/4/venezuelans-divided-after-us-attack-and-maduros-abduction 4 Jan 2026 Venezuelans divided after US attack and Maduro’s abduction Venezuelan officials say US air strikes killed at least 40 people, destroyed parts of the capital and violated their national sovereignty with the abduction of President Nicolas Maduro. Venezuelans are divided between fear of ongoing US intervention and celebrating his removal. I add to this the other side of the equation: Maduro is clearly an arsehole and needed to be put on trial. Apart from all the hard drugs killing 10s of 1000s of Americans he allowed the oilfields to fall into disrepair  - only wanting to collect higher and higher royalties but unable to look after and maintain the equipment to extract it till nearly all of it stopped working - and so he then denied his own people the money they desperately needed. He also murdered his own people. I see. So you've read the indictment, have you? They're not arresting him for being an arsehole, dear. The oil wells went into disrepair after Uncle embargoed Venezuelan oil.  So, given you said Hernandez needed to be set free for smuggling 400 tons of coke into America, can you say why Maduro needs to be put on trial? That's a question. Hernandez should have been hanged but ..... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-03/donald-trump-pardons-former-honduran-president-drug-trafficking/106095618 Trump, And he said the US went after him "because the Biden-Harris DOJ pursued a political agenda to empower its ideological allies in Honduras". Asked on Tuesday about his decision, Mr Trump characterised the case against Hernandez quite differently to how it was heard in court. "They had some drugs being sold in their country and, because he was the president, they went after him," Mr Trump said. "That was a Biden horrible witch-hunt." He said "a lot of people in Honduras" asked him to pardon Hernandez. "And I did it, and I feel very good about it."

This has already been spelled out to you in this very thread, Bobby.

If you want to tell lies, you'll need to be forgiven.


Big Donger wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 2:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 8:53pm: Maduro is a gangster drug dealer - responsible for the deaths of 100s of 1000s of Americans. Trump is gunna put him on trial and hang em,  and hang em high. I'm not reading much evidence in the unsealed indictment, Bobby. I invite you to go through the linked sealed superseding released by the DOJ. There aren't many facts in there, just allegations of conspiracy, but I'm curious. If your DL is so keen to hang drug traffickers, why did he just release Juan Orlando Hernandez, convicted for smuggling 400 tons of cocaine into the US? Your DL has just gone to all the trouble of invading a foreign country, killing hundreds and kidnapping a foreign prez with no real evidence that he's involved in drug exportation at all. Last month, Hernandez was doing 45 years in jail after a six year operation and the full cooperation of the Honduran authorities. Your DL just let him go. And if you're thinking Hernandez was just a corrupt sting by Crooked Joe Biden, Hernandez's own brother was already busted with the goods in Florida, fessed up and ratted out Hernandez. He was so banged to rights, Honduran authorities were forced to extradite their own prez, after two Supreme Court hearings confirmed the facts. Hernandez is now back in his compound in Tegucigalpa, planning his next job and laughing with his boys about what a dumb gringo your DL is. What's worse is Nasry Asfura just got elected Honduran prez. He's Hernandez's buddy, the former Tegucigalpa mayor and convicted of stealing more than a mil in city funds. With Asfura in charge, Hernandez will have all the military support and intelligence he needs to get the coke moving again. It's a dream job. He doesn't even need to turn up to the office to do prez duties, he can just focus on the business. So what's your DL up to? Is he just planning on convicting and pardoning Maduro too, or is there another angle at play here? What?

It's just come out that your DL offered Maduro exile in Turkey, with the big fella's little buddy Erdogan.

When was the indictment unsealed?

FD  aka Karnal,

Quote:

This has already been spelled out to you in this very thread, Bobby. If you want to tell lies, you'll need to be forgiven.

I am always forgiven but in this case I have told the truth.

chimera wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 2:47pm:

Russia's roads and hospitals are derelict.

When have you been to a Russian hospital or on a Russian road, you lying maggot?  ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:10pm:

FD  aka Karnal, Quote: This has already been spelled out to you in this very thread, Bobby. If you want to tell lies, you'll need to be forgiven. I am always forgiven but in this case I have told the truth.

Read the whole post, please. Then explain how you could possibly be telling the truth.

tallowood wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:10pm:

chimera wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 2:47pm: Russia's roads and hospitals are derelict.  When have you been to a Russian hospital or on a Russian road, you lying maggot?  ::)

Oh-er, Tallowood sounds a little toosh.

I wonder if he's one of Vlad's bots.

Big Donger wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:10pm: FD  aka Karnal, Quote: This has already been spelled out to you in this very thread, Bobby. If you want to tell lies, you'll need to be forgiven. I am always forgiven but in this case I have told the truth. Read the whole post, please. Then explain how you could possibly be telling the truth.

I quoted Trump - that's all - don't shoot the messenger.

forgiven

namaste

Big Donger wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:11pm:

tallowood wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:10pm: chimera wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 2:47pm: Russia's roads and hospitals are derelict.  When have you been to a Russian hospital or on a Russian road, you lying maggot?  ::) Oh-er, Tallowood sounds a little toosh. I wonder if he's one of Vlad's bots.

You sound  a lot like an idiot whose had is full of fake news media crap.

Big Donger wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 2:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 8:53pm: Maduro is a gangster drug dealer - responsible for the deaths of 100s of 1000s of Americans. Trump is gunna put him on trial and hang em,  and hang em high. I'm not reading much evidence in the unsealed indictment, Bobby. I invite you to go through the linked sealed superseding released by the DOJ. There aren't many facts in there, just allegations of conspiracy, but I'm curious. If your DL is so keen to hang drug traffickers, why did he just release Juan Orlando Hernandez, convicted for smuggling 400 tons of cocaine into the US? Your DL has just gone to all the trouble of invading a foreign country, killing hundreds and kidnapping a foreign prez with no real evidence that he's involved in drug exportation at all. Last month, Hernandez was doing 45 years in jail after a six year operation and the full cooperation of the Honduran authorities. Your DL just let him go. And if you're thinking Hernandez was just a corrupt sting by Crooked Joe Biden, Hernandez's own brother was already busted with the goods in Florida, fessed up and ratted out Hernandez. He was so banged to rights, Honduran authorities were forced to extradite their own prez, after two Supreme Court hearings confirmed the facts. Hernandez is now back in his compound in Tegucigalpa, planning his next job and laughing with his boys about what a dumb gringo your DL is. What's worse is Nasry Asfura just got elected Honduran prez. He's Hernandez's buddy, the former Tegucigalpa mayor and convicted of stealing more than a mil in city funds. With Asfura in charge, Hernandez will have all the military support and intelligence he needs to get the coke moving again. It's a dream job. He doesn't even need to turn up to the office to do prez duties, he can just focus on the business. So what's your DL up to? Is he just planning on convicting and pardoning Maduro too, or is there another angle at play here? What?

What if that conviction was really a Biden whack job on Hernandez.

What advantages does America or Trump personally get from pardoning him if he is really guilty? (Other than supporting your TDS).

Please explain, preferably not in grimacing Urdu gibberish.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:12pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:11pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:10pm: FD  aka Karnal, Quote: This has already been spelled out to you in this very thread, Bobby. If you want to tell lies, you'll need to be forgiven. I am always forgiven but in this case I have told the truth. Read the whole post, please. Then explain how you could possibly be telling the truth. I quoted Trump - that's all - don't shoot the messenger. forgiven namaste

You weren't asked Trump? You were specifically asked:

You?

Now, kindly state your answer to the leftards here.

Big Donger wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:12pm: Big Donger wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:11pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:10pm: FD  aka Karnal, Quote: This has already been spelled out to you in this very thread, Bobby. If you want to tell lies, you'll need to be forgiven. I am always forgiven but in this case I have told the truth. Read the whole post, please. Then explain how you could possibly be telling the truth. I quoted Trump - that's all - don't shoot the messenger. forgiven namaste You weren't asked Trump? You were specifically asked: You? Now, kindly state your answer to the leftards here.

I answered you -

I said -

Hernandez should have been hanged.

tallowood wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:10pm:

When have you been to a Russian hospital or on a Russian road, you lying maggot?

'Maggot' is a very useful argument and is worth two (2) paragraphs of evidence.
However, Russians say :
The Russian government is now funding barely over 50 percent the amount in its own program for repair and construction of roads during the rest of this decade, arteries on which the country increasingly relies; and that is seriously exacerbating tensions between the center and the federal subjects, Ilya Grashchenkov says.
(Since 2010 -President of the Center for Regional Policy Development Foundation).
But in the last four years and especially since the beginning of Putin’s expanded war in Ukraine, Moscow hasn’t continued to fund even its own targets for repair and construction and now has announced that it will fund only 58 percent of the figures it had set for the years up to 2030.'
' The federal budget for healthcare has decreased in recent years, with spending cuts of 9% reported in the 2023 budget compared to the previous year. Spending is projected to slightly decrease further in the 2024-2026 period.'_ Reuters.

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:36pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 2:35pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 8:53pm: Maduro is a gangster drug dealer - responsible for the deaths of 100s of 1000s of Americans. Trump is gunna put him on trial and hang em,  and hang em high. I'm not reading much evidence in the unsealed indictment, Bobby. I invite you to go through the linked sealed superseding released by the DOJ. There aren't many facts in there, just allegations of conspiracy, but I'm curious. If your DL is so keen to hang drug traffickers, why did he just release Juan Orlando Hernandez, convicted for smuggling 400 tons of cocaine into the US? Your DL has just gone to all the trouble of invading a foreign country, killing hundreds and kidnapping a foreign prez with no real evidence that he's involved in drug exportation at all. Last month, Hernandez was doing 45 years in jail after a six year operation and the full cooperation of the Honduran authorities. Your DL just let him go. And if you're thinking Hernandez was just a corrupt sting by Crooked Joe Biden, Hernandez's own brother was already busted with the goods in Florida, fessed up and ratted out Hernandez. He was so banged to rights, Honduran authorities were forced to extradite their own prez, after two Supreme Court hearings confirmed the facts. Hernandez is now back in his compound in Tegucigalpa, planning his next job and laughing with his boys about what a dumb gringo your DL is. What's worse is Nasry Asfura just got elected Honduran prez. He's Hernandez's buddy, the former Tegucigalpa mayor and convicted of stealing more than a mil in city funds. With Asfura in charge, Hernandez will have all the military support and intelligence he needs to get the coke moving again. It's a dream job. He doesn't even need to turn up to the office to do prez duties, he can just focus on the business. So what's your DL up to? Is he just planning on convicting and pardoning Maduro too, or is there another angle at play here? What? What if that conviction was really a Biden whack job on Hernandez. What advantages does America or Trump personally get from pardoning him if he is really guilty? (Other than supporting your TDS). Please explain, preferably not in grimacing Urdu gibberish.

Excellent questions, dear boy. What if it was a Biden whack job?

You can read the answer above. With the evidence presented, no one could possibly come to this cunning conclusion.

Why would your DL do it?

Come come. The Hernandez family has millions in coke money. All anyone needs to do is approach a Trump staffer, friend or member of Mar a Lago and ask a favour, along with a suitable investment in Trump or Melania Coin.

What does America get out of it?

A few hundred more tons of coke, presumably. Once Hernandez gets the cocaine super highway back up and running, it'll be a buyer's market.

And do you know? He's hardly going to face another prosecution, now is he? Your DL's running the DOJ. Hernandez now has the green light. He's free to run coke, guns and even apply for a US visa to visit his long-suffering brother, currently doing 20 years in federal prison.

If Hernandez has a forgiving heart, he can pay your DL to get him into one of those cushy work farms with the personal chefs and private massage therapists.

WITCH HUNT !!!

Biden would have given the drug smugglers free docking rights.

chimera wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:58pm:

tallowood wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:10pm: When have you been to a Russian hospital or on a Russian road, you lying maggot?  'Maggot' is a very useful argument and is worth two (2) paragraphs of evidence. However, Russians say : The Russian government is now funding barely over 50 percent the amount in its own program for repair and construction of roads during the rest of this decade, arteries on which the country increasingly relies; and that is seriously exacerbating tensions between the center and the federal subjects, Ilya Grashchenkov says. (Since 2010 -President of the Center for Regional Policy Development Foundation). But in the last four years and especially since the beginning of Putin’s expanded war in Ukraine, Moscow hasn’t continued to fund even its own targets for repair and construction and now has announced that it will fund only 58 percent of the figures it had set for the years up to 2030.' ' The federal budget for healthcare has decreased in recent years, with spending cuts of 9% reported in the 2023 budget compared to the previous year. Spending is projected to slightly decrease further in the 2024-2026 period.'_ Reuters.

Your bullshiting doesn't help your lost cause.

MAGA

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tallowood wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 5:12pm:

your lost cause.

This man is Russian, tells big lies always. Maggot.

https://www.eapc.eu/become-a-member/current-members/russia/ilya-grashchenkov/

https://crrp.ru/

https://web.archive.org/web/20160920033739/http://www.jamestown.org/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=42927&no_cache=1#.V-CvBXbP1S8

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 5:23pm:

MAGA

That's right. He's going to reopen it again, remember?

He made this important executive decision right after watching Clint in Escape From Alcatraz on Movie of the Week.

Pam praised her DL for having the courage and imagination to come up with such a brilliant idea.

Pity the California Department of Prisons had other brilliant ideas, eh?

LAWFARE !!!

chimera wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 5:28pm:

tallowood wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:12pm: your lost cause. This man is Russian, tells big lies always. Maggot. https://www.eapc.eu/become-a-member/current-members/russia/ilya-grashchenkov/ https://crrp.ru/ https://web.archive.org/web/20160920033739/http://www.jamestown.org/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=42927&no_cache=1#.V-CvBXbP1S8

You linking to fake news and scratching your sorry butt doesn't help your damaged brain either  ;)

Putin is not raising VAT to gain more revenue for war? He's not cutting back on social spending? Please give evidence.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 12:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:14am: 40 people were murdered: https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/1/4/venezuelans-divided-after-us-attack-and-maduros-abduction 4 Jan 2026 Venezuelans divided after US attack and Maduro’s abduction Venezuelan officials say US air strikes killed at least 40 people, destroyed parts of the capital and violated their national sovereignty with the abduction of President Nicolas Maduro. Venezuelans are divided between fear of ongoing US intervention and celebrating his removal. I add to this the other side of the equation: Maduro is clearly an arsehole and needed to be put on trial. Apart from all the hard drugs killing 10s of 1000s of Americans he allowed the oilfields to fall into disrepair  - only wanting to collect higher and higher royalties but unable to look after and maintain the equipment to extract it till nearly all of it stopped working - and so he then denied his own people the money they desperately needed. He also murdered his own people.

Your error: the US imposed sanctions on Venezuela when she nationalized the oil industry - a very 'socialist' policy, ie, a nation's resource wealth should mostly accrue to the people, not mostly to shareholders of foreign  companies.

The sanctions wrecked the Venezuelan economy, meaning lack of funds to maintain oil infrastructure. 

(Meanwhile Oz governments have been too weak to ensure all Australians benefit from Oz LNG resources, despite Oz being the 3rd largest exporter in the world).

So now Trump is now crowing about investing $billions while restoring "stolen" oil to its 'rightful' owners - ie US oil companies....

Deplorable.

chimera wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 5:37pm:

https://crrp.ru/ is fake? Putin is not raising VAT to gain more revenue for war? He's not cutting back on social spending? Please give evidence.

You link to Russian language site but  you don't understand the language  ;D

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/604x353q90/r/923/sbrUe9.jpg

tallowood wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 5:45pm:

chimera wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:37pm: https://crrp.ru/ is fake? Putin is not raising VAT to gain more revenue for war? He's not cutting back on social spending? Please give evidence. You link to Russian language site but  you don't understand the language  ;D https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/604x353q90/r/923/sbrUe9.jpg

Ah.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 5:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 12:06pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:14am: 40 people were murdered: https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/1/4/venezuelans-divided-after-us-attack-and-maduros-abduction 4 Jan 2026 Venezuelans divided after US attack and Maduro’s abduction Venezuelan officials say US air strikes killed at least 40 people, destroyed parts of the capital and violated their national sovereignty with the abduction of President Nicolas Maduro. Venezuelans are divided between fear of ongoing US intervention and celebrating his removal. I add to this the other side of the equation: Maduro is clearly an arsehole and needed to be put on trial. Apart from all the hard drugs killing 10s of 1000s of Americans he allowed the oilfields to fall into disrepair  - only wanting to collect higher and higher royalties but unable to look after and maintain the equipment to extract it till nearly all of it stopped working - and so he then denied his own people the money they desperately needed. He also murdered his own people. Your error: the US imposed sanctions on Venezuela when she nationalized the oil industry - a very 'socialist' policy, ie, a nation's resource wealth should mostly accrue to the people, not mostly to shareholders of foreign  companies. The sanctions wrecked the Venezuelan economy, meaning lack of funds to maintain oil infrastructure.  (Meanwhile Oz governments have been too weak to ensure all Australians benefit from Oz LNG resources, despite Oz being the 3rd largest exporter in the world). So now Trump is now crowing about investing $billions while restoring "stolen" oil to its 'rightful' owners - ie US oil companies.... Deplorable.

Not when you know who DL's really working for, Great.

Turns out he was just a good old fashioned neocon after all, no?

tallowood wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 5:12pm:

chimera wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:58pm: tallowood wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:10pm: When have you been to a Russian hospital or on a Russian road, you lying maggot?  'Maggot' is a very useful argument and is worth two (2) paragraphs of evidence. However, Russians say : The Russian government is now funding barely over 50 percent the amount in its own program for repair and construction of roads during the rest of this decade, arteries on which the country increasingly relies; and that is seriously exacerbating tensions between the center and the federal subjects, Ilya Grashchenkov says. (Since 2010 -President of the Center for Regional Policy Development Foundation). But in the last four years and especially since the beginning of Putin’s expanded war in Ukraine, Moscow hasn’t continued to fund even its own targets for repair and construction and now has announced that it will fund only 58 percent of the figures it had set for the years up to 2030.' ' The federal budget for healthcare has decreased in recent years, with spending cuts of 9% reported in the 2023 budget compared to the previous year. Spending is projected to slightly decrease further in the 2024-2026 period.'_ Reuters. Your bullshiting doesn't help your lost cause.

Unfortunately, diversion of resources to a war economy DOES result in insufficiency of resources for infrastructure development and social spending.

You still not interested in seeing Trump's peace plan come to fruition?

Woke Chimera certainly isn't interested - he wants Ukraine's total victory regardless of the loss of life ... "freedom or death", you see.

tallowood wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 5:45pm:

you don't understand the language

Putin is not raising VAT to gain more revenue for war? He's not cutting back on social spending? Please give evidence.

chimera wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 5:57pm:

tallowood wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:45pm: you don't understand the language  Putin is not raising VAT to gain more revenue for war? He's not cutting back on social spending? Please give evidence.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q70/924/qBPYIC.png
;D ;D ;D

aha
gotcha.

chimera wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 6:00pm:

aha gotcha.

;D ;D ;D

Big Donger wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 8:40pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 4:52pm: Big Donger wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 3:32pm: SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 5:03am: The US is losing 300,000 people a year to drugs run in my Maduro and his cartels… thats War No, dear, that's business. If it's war, you'd need Congressional approval to fight it, as per the US Constitution. If it's just a quick quiet military action, you need to inform Congress within 48 hours, as per US federal law. Obviously, if you're deposing a foreign prez and plan to run a foreign government, you need a declaration of war. That's per various conventions under international law. Your DL did none of those things, but let's get to your important mission of saving American lives. Venezuela is not used as a known export route to the US. Its illegal gangs distribute cocaine from Columbia, via Jamaica, to Europe. In the US, the main cause of overdose is fentanyl, leading to over 80% of deaths by overdose. Most deaths involving cocaine use are caused by interaction with another drug. In 2021, for example, overdose on cocaine alone led to 8000 deaths. 2021 had a covid-related peak in overdose deaths for a host of reasons, including increased drug use and lack of emergency services. This isn't typical, but shows the impossibility of Maduro causing 300,000 deaths a year. This is why your DL's action in Venezuela has been driven by executive order alone. It would be impossible to designate the Venezuelan government as a terrorist organisation or the cause of any threat to US security at all if facts had to be presented to Congress and approved. All his claims have been bogus. How do we know? The US National Intelligence Council informed your DL of these facts in April, stating: “While Venezuela’s permissive environment enables [Tren de Aragua, or TDA] to operate, the Maduro regime probably does not have a policy of cooperating with TDA and is not directing TDA movement to and operations in the United States." But that's okay. We all know your DL doesn't take security briefings anymore. SCOTUS have given him the right to carry out any action he likes, including sending the Navy Seals in to take out his political enemies. Basically, your DL is now free to kill as many people as he wants. Where do you think he'll go after he's taken out Venezuela? They never stop at one. I'd say he'll want a lot more blood before he's through. You? Sure M8……  ::) Sorry? Obama obtained Congressional approval for everything, you silly old thing. Would you like to say something else?

This is why i never bother to engage with you Karnal - apart from being a blithering idiot - you are also a flat out liar.

BOMBER IN CHIEF - in 2016 - Barack Obama dropped 26,171 bombs on Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan without Congress Approval

He dropped so many bombs they actually ran out.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 4:51pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:46pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:12pm: Big Donger wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:11pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:10pm: FD  aka Karnal, Quote: This has already been spelled out to you in this very thread, Bobby. If you want to tell lies, you'll need to be forgiven. I am always forgiven but in this case I have told the truth. Read the whole post, please. Then explain how you could possibly be telling the truth. I quoted Trump - that's all - don't shoot the messenger. forgiven namaste You weren't asked Trump? You were specifically asked: You? Now, kindly state your answer to the leftards here. I answered you - I said - Hernandez should have been hanged.

So why did your DL offer Maduro asylum in Turkey?

Are you accusing your DL of being DEEP STATE?

SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 6:17pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 8:40pm: SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 4:52pm: Big Donger wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 3:32pm: SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 5:03am: The US is losing 300,000 people a year to drugs run in my Maduro and his cartels… thats War No, dear, that's business. If it's war, you'd need Congressional approval to fight it, as per the US Constitution. If it's just a quick quiet military action, you need to inform Congress within 48 hours, as per US federal law. Obviously, if you're deposing a foreign prez and plan to run a foreign government, you need a declaration of war. That's per various conventions under international law. Your DL did none of those things, but let's get to your important mission of saving American lives. Venezuela is not used as a known export route to the US. Its illegal gangs distribute cocaine from Columbia, via Jamaica, to Europe. In the US, the main cause of overdose is fentanyl, leading to over 80% of deaths by overdose. Most deaths involving cocaine use are caused by interaction with another drug. In 2021, for example, overdose on cocaine alone led to 8000 deaths. 2021 had a covid-related peak in overdose deaths for a host of reasons, including increased drug use and lack of emergency services. This isn't typical, but shows the impossibility of Maduro causing 300,000 deaths a year. This is why your DL's action in Venezuela has been driven by executive order alone. It would be impossible to designate the Venezuelan government as a terrorist organisation or the cause of any threat to US security at all if facts had to be presented to Congress and approved. All his claims have been bogus. How do we know? The US National Intelligence Council informed your DL of these facts in April, stating: “While Venezuela’s permissive environment enables [Tren de Aragua, or TDA] to operate, the Maduro regime probably does not have a policy of cooperating with TDA and is not directing TDA movement to and operations in the United States." But that's okay. We all know your DL doesn't take security briefings anymore. SCOTUS have given him the right to carry out any action he likes, including sending the Navy Seals in to take out his political enemies. Basically, your DL is now free to kill as many people as he wants. Where do you think he'll go after he's taken out Venezuela? They never stop at one. I'd say he'll want a lot more blood before he's through. You? Sure M8……  ::) Sorry? Obama obtained Congressional approval for everything, you silly old thing. Would you like to say something else? This is why i never bother to engage with you Karnal - apart from being a blithering idiot - you are also a flat out liar. BOMBER IN CHIEF - in 2016 - Barack Obama dropped 26,171 bombs on Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan without Congress Approval He dropped so many bombs they actually ran out.

So check the Congressional record. They gave Obama approval to drop every one of those bombs.

What are you, a bothering idiot and flat out liar?

That's a question. Please explain? 

US self-importance is fascinating.
US Justice Department indictment accuses captured Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro of running a “corrupt, illegitimate government” and narco-terrorism conspiracy, cocaine importation conspiracy, possession of machine guns and destructive devices and conspiracy to possess machine guns and destructive devices.

Importing cocaine can be indicted if the overseas sovereign president Maduro consents to legal action. But he didn't. Being a corrupt overseas government can't be an offence against the US government. If Maduro approves corruption, it's legal for Venezuela. Governments own machine guns. US Army has over 13,000 light machine gun M250s for close combat forces.

Donald likes to over-reach the law against others but reject it against himself.

https://www.trtworld.com/article/274015df996e

Death toll from US attacks in Venezuela rises to 80 — report


The report by The New York Times says the toll could rise further.


13 hours ago

The death toll from Saturday's US military operation in Venezuela has risen to 80, the New York Times reported on Sunday.

Citing a senior Venezuelan official, the Times said on Sunday the number could rise further.

Earlier, Venezuela's Defence Minister Vladimir Padrino said a large part of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro's security team had been killed during the US operation, without giving exact numbers.

President Donald Trump said US military action on Venezuela resulted in the capture of Maduro, and his wife, Cilia Flores, also pledged to assert American control over the country for the time being, with US troops if necessary.

The pair landed in New York late Saturday and is being held at the Metropolitan Detention Centre in Brooklyn.

They face US federal charges tied to drug trafficking and alleged cooperation with gangs designated as terrorist organisations.

Maduro has denied the accusations, and officials in Venezuela's capital, Caracas, have called for the couple's release.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 7:45pm:

https://www.trtworld.com/article/274015df996e Death toll from US attacks in Venezuela rises to 80 — report The report by The New York Times says the toll could rise further. 13 hours ago The death toll from Saturday's US military operation in Venezuela has risen to 80, the New York Times reported on Sunday. Citing a senior Venezuelan official, the Times said on Sunday the number could rise further. Earlier, Venezuela's Defence Minister Vladimir Padrino said a large part of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro's security team had been killed during the US operation, without giving exact numbers. President Donald Trump said US military action on Venezuela resulted in the capture of Maduro, and his wife, Cilia Flores, also pledged to assert American control over the country for the time being, with US troops if necessary. The pair landed in New York late Saturday and is being held at the Metropolitan Detention Centre in Brooklyn. They face US federal charges tied to drug trafficking and alleged cooperation with gangs designated as terrorist organisations. Maduro has denied the accusations, and officials in Venezuela's capital, Caracas, have called for the couple's release.

Well Maduro did invite him.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4tKaZ6ntFqY

Leroy wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 7:45pm: https://www.trtworld.com/article/274015df996e Death toll from US attacks in Venezuela rises to 80 — report The report by The New York Times says the toll could rise further. 13 hours ago The death toll from Saturday's US military operation in Venezuela has risen to 80, the New York Times reported on Sunday. Citing a senior Venezuelan official, the Times said on Sunday the number could rise further. Earlier, Venezuela's Defence Minister Vladimir Padrino said a large part of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro's security team had been killed during the US operation, without giving exact numbers. President Donald Trump said US military action on Venezuela resulted in the capture of Maduro, and his wife, Cilia Flores, also pledged to assert American control over the country for the time being, with US troops if necessary. The pair landed in New York late Saturday and is being held at the Metropolitan Detention Centre in Brooklyn. They face US federal charges tied to drug trafficking and alleged cooperation with gangs designated as terrorist organisations. Maduro has denied the accusations, and officials in Venezuela's capital, Caracas, have called for the couple's release. Well Maduro did invite him. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4tKaZ6ntFqY

He did too - the silly Billy.    :-[

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 7:45pm:

https://www.trtworld.com/article/274015df996e Death toll from US attacks in Venezuela rises to 80 — report The report by The New York Times says the toll could rise further. 13 hours ago The death toll from Saturday's US military operation in Venezuela has risen to 80, the New York Times reported on Sunday. Citing a senior Venezuelan official, the Times said on Sunday the number could rise further. Earlier, Venezuela's Defence Minister Vladimir Padrino said a large part of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro's security team had been killed during the US operation, without giving exact numbers. President Donald Trump said US military action on Venezuela resulted in the capture of Maduro, and his wife, Cilia Flores, also pledged to assert American control over the country for the time being, with US troops if necessary. The pair landed in New York late Saturday and is being held at the Metropolitan Detention Centre in Brooklyn. They face US federal charges tied to drug trafficking and alleged cooperation with gangs designated as terrorist organisations. Maduro has denied the accusations, and officials in Venezuela's capital, Caracas, have called for the couple's release.

Bobby, I told you: Trump is the biggest monster of the 21st century.

His death toll will be in the millions if nature doesn't take its course soon.

Just pray that his heart gives out soon and he dies a slow, agonising death.

Melania is.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 8:07pm:

Bobby, I told you: Trump is the biggest monster of the 21st century. His death toll will be in the millions if nature doesn't take its course soon. Just pray that his heart gives out soon and he dies a slow, agonising death. Melania is.

Greggy - now you're getting hysterical - take a chill pill.      ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 8:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:07pm: Bobby, I told you: Trump is the biggest monster of the 21st century. His death toll will be in the millions if nature doesn't take its course soon. Just pray that his heart gives out soon and he dies a slow, agonising death. Melania is. Greggy - now you're getting hysterical - take a chill pill.      ::)

This thread will come back to haunt you.

Trump has only just begun.

He'll kill millions more than he's raped.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 8:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 7:45pm: https://www.trtworld.com/article/274015df996e Death toll from US attacks in Venezuela rises to 80 — report The report by The New York Times says the toll could rise further. 13 hours ago The death toll from Saturday's US military operation in Venezuela has risen to 80, the New York Times reported on Sunday. Citing a senior Venezuelan official, the Times said on Sunday the number could rise further. Earlier, Venezuela's Defence Minister Vladimir Padrino said a large part of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro's security team had been killed during the US operation, without giving exact numbers. President Donald Trump said US military action on Venezuela resulted in the capture of Maduro, and his wife, Cilia Flores, also pledged to assert American control over the country for the time being, with US troops if necessary. The pair landed in New York late Saturday and is being held at the Metropolitan Detention Centre in Brooklyn. They face US federal charges tied to drug trafficking and alleged cooperation with gangs designated as terrorist organisations. Maduro has denied the accusations, and officials in Venezuela's capital, Caracas, have called for the couple's release. Bobby, I told you: Trump is the biggest monster of the 21st century. His death toll will be in the millions if nature doesn't take its course soon. Just pray that his heart gives out soon and he dies a slow, agonising death. Melania is.

You are the biggest toxic idiot here, creep.
Trump removes an illegitimate dictator - that''s worse than anything that has happened in the last 25 years and might happen in the next 75.

You are truly as moronic and toxic as your alter ego in nappies, Doktor Bbwiyawn.

Is it Perth, is it Slovenia, is it just your proximity to each other?? You two are moronic in remarkably similar ways, in response to similar events. You must have your tumbs up each other's arses.
They fit but it ain't proper, mongs.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 8:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:07pm: Bobby, I told you: Trump is the biggest monster of the 21st century. His death toll will be in the millions if nature doesn't take its course soon. Just pray that his heart gives out soon and he dies a slow, agonising death. Melania is. Greggy - now you're getting hysterical - take a chill pill.      ::) This thread will come back to haunt you. Trump has only just begun. He'll kill millions more than he's raped.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/Pecca_trolling_on_ozpolitic.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 8:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:07pm: Bobby, I told you: Trump is the biggest monster of the 21st century. His death toll will be in the millions if nature doesn't take its course soon. Just pray that his heart gives out soon and he dies a slow, agonising death. Melania is. Greggy - now you're getting hysterical - take a chill pill.      ::) This thread will come back to haunt you. Trump has only just begun. He'll kill millions more than he's raped.

Better with the devil you don't know than the devil you do know.

Wouldent killing millions be good for the environment, just looking for a silver lining.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 8:04pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:02pm: [quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1767429739/133#133 date=1767606323] https://www.trtworld.com/article/274015df996e Death toll from US attacks in Venezuela rises to 80 — report The report by The New York Times says the toll could rise further. 13 hours ago The death toll from Saturday's US military operation in Venezuela has risen to 80, the New York Times reported on Sunday. Citing a senior Venezuelan official, the Times said on Sunday the number could rise further. Earlier, Venezuela's Defence Minister Vladimir Padrino said a large part of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro's security team had been killed during the US operation, without giving exact numbers. President Donald Trump said US military action on Venezuela resulted in the capture of Maduro, and his wife, Cilia Flores, also pledged to assert American control over the country for the time being, with US troops if necessary. The pair landed in New York late Saturday and is being held at the Metropolitan Detention Centre in Brooklyn. They face US federal charges tied to drug trafficking and alleged cooperation with gangs designated as terrorist organisations. Maduro has denied the accusations, and officials in Venezuela's capital, Caracas, have called for the couple's release. Well Maduro did invite him. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4tKaZ6ntFqY

He did too - the silly Billy.    :-[/quote]

Just so. He did that silly dance for the leftards.

Right after DL told him to take exile in Turkey, funded by the US, with money chipped in for Big Oil, so American taxpayers could foot the bill for your DL's occupation of Venezuela.

DEEP STATE !!!

Leroy wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 8:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:18pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:14pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:07pm: Bobby, I told you: Trump is the biggest monster of the 21st century. His death toll will be in the millions if nature doesn't take its course soon. Just pray that his heart gives out soon and he dies a slow, agonising death. Melania is. Greggy - now you're getting hysterical - take a chill pill.      ::) This thread will come back to haunt you. Trump has only just begun. He'll kill millions more than he's raped. Better with the devil you don't know than the devil you do know. Wouldent killing millions be good for the environment, just looking for a silver lining.

How did you feel about the blood for oil in Iraq, Leroy?

Is Venezuela the next South Korea too?

Big Donger wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 8:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:04pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:02pm: [quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1767429739/133#133 date=1767606323] https://www.trtworld.com/article/274015df996e Death toll from US attacks in Venezuela rises to 80 — report The report by The New York Times says the toll could rise further. 13 hours ago The death toll from Saturday's US military operation in Venezuela has risen to 80, the New York Times reported on Sunday. Citing a senior Venezuelan official, the Times said on Sunday the number could rise further. Earlier, Venezuela's Defence Minister Vladimir Padrino said a large part of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro's security team had been killed during the US operation, without giving exact numbers. President Donald Trump said US military action on Venezuela resulted in the capture of Maduro, and his wife, Cilia Flores, also pledged to assert American control over the country for the time being, with US troops if necessary. The pair landed in New York late Saturday and is being held at the Metropolitan Detention Centre in Brooklyn. They face US federal charges tied to drug trafficking and alleged cooperation with gangs designated as terrorist organisations. Maduro has denied the accusations, and officials in Venezuela's capital, Caracas, have called for the couple's release. Well Maduro did invite him. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4tKaZ6ntFqY He did too - the silly Billy.    :-[/quote] Just so. He did that silly dance for the leftards. Right after DL told him to take exile in Turkey, funded by the US, with money chipped in for Big Oil, so American taxpayers could foot the bill for your DL's occupation of Venezuela. DEEP STATE !!!

See the Don took the less expensive option, MADuro said come and get me, I'm here and DONald did did DONald. And the legend was born, scribes will write poems about him.

I think this is helping me to understand what it’s all about  8-)

History lesson!

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS5PVoh6V/

Sophia wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 8:56pm:

I think this is helping me to understand what it’s all about  8-) History lesson! https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS5PVoh6V/

:D :D

She must have a Doctor of Divinity.
Or a guitar shop.

Big Donger wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 5:02pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:36pm: Big Donger wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 2:35pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 8:53pm: Maduro is a gangster drug dealer - responsible for the deaths of 100s of 1000s of Americans. Trump is gunna put him on trial and hang em,  and hang em high. I'm not reading much evidence in the unsealed indictment, Bobby. I invite you to go through the linked sealed superseding released by the DOJ. There aren't many facts in there, just allegations of conspiracy, but I'm curious. If your DL is so keen to hang drug traffickers, why did he just release Juan Orlando Hernandez, convicted for smuggling 400 tons of cocaine into the US? Your DL has just gone to all the trouble of invading a foreign country, killing hundreds and kidnapping a foreign prez with no real evidence that he's involved in drug exportation at all. Last month, Hernandez was doing 45 years in jail after a six year operation and the full cooperation of the Honduran authorities. Your DL just let him go. And if you're thinking Hernandez was just a corrupt sting by Crooked Joe Biden, Hernandez's own brother was already busted with the goods in Florida, fessed up and ratted out Hernandez. He was so banged to rights, Honduran authorities were forced to extradite their own prez, after two Supreme Court hearings confirmed the facts. Hernandez is now back in his compound in Tegucigalpa, planning his next job and laughing with his boys about what a dumb gringo your DL is. What's worse is Nasry Asfura just got elected Honduran prez. He's Hernandez's buddy, the former Tegucigalpa mayor and convicted of stealing more than a mil in city funds. With Asfura in charge, Hernandez will have all the military support and intelligence he needs to get the coke moving again. It's a dream job. He doesn't even need to turn up to the office to do prez duties, he can just focus on the business. So what's your DL up to? Is he just planning on convicting and pardoning Maduro too, or is there another angle at play here? What? What if that conviction was really a Biden whack job on Hernandez. What advantages does America or Trump personally get from pardoning him if he is really guilty? (Other than supporting your TDS). Please explain, preferably not in grimacing Urdu gibberish. Excellent questions, dear boy. What if it was a Biden whack job? You can read the answer above. With the evidence presented, no one could possibly come to this cunning conclusion. Why would your DL do it? Come come. The Hernandez family has millions in coke money. All anyone needs to do is approach a Trump staffer, friend or member of Mar a Lago and ask a favour, along with a suitable investment in Trump or Melania Coin. What does America get out of it? A few hundred more tons of coke, presumably. Once Hernandez gets the cocaine super highway back up and running, it'll be a buyer's market. And do you know? He's hardly going to face another prosecution, now is he? Your DL's running the DOJ. Hernandez now has the green light. He's free to run coke, guns and even apply for a US visa to visit his long-suffering brother, currently doing 20 years in federal prison. If Hernandez has a forgiving heart, he can pay your DL to get him into one of those cushy work farms with the personal chefs and private massage therapists. WITCH HUNT !!!

I said OTHER THAN YOUR TDS.

Focus, paki.

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 9:20pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:02pm: Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:36pm: Big Donger wrote on Jan 4th, 2026 at 2:35pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 8:53pm: Maduro is a gangster drug dealer - responsible for the deaths of 100s of 1000s of Americans. Trump is gunna put him on trial and hang em,  and hang em high. I'm not reading much evidence in the unsealed indictment, Bobby. I invite you to go through the linked sealed superseding released by the DOJ. There aren't many facts in there, just allegations of conspiracy, but I'm curious. If your DL is so keen to hang drug traffickers, why did he just release Juan Orlando Hernandez, convicted for smuggling 400 tons of cocaine into the US? Your DL has just gone to all the trouble of invading a foreign country, killing hundreds and kidnapping a foreign prez with no real evidence that he's involved in drug exportation at all. Last month, Hernandez was doing 45 years in jail after a six year operation and the full cooperation of the Honduran authorities. Your DL just let him go. And if you're thinking Hernandez was just a corrupt sting by Crooked Joe Biden, Hernandez's own brother was already busted with the goods in Florida, fessed up and ratted out Hernandez. He was so banged to rights, Honduran authorities were forced to extradite their own prez, after two Supreme Court hearings confirmed the facts. Hernandez is now back in his compound in Tegucigalpa, planning his next job and laughing with his boys about what a dumb gringo your DL is. What's worse is Nasry Asfura just got elected Honduran prez. He's Hernandez's buddy, the former Tegucigalpa mayor and convicted of stealing more than a mil in city funds. With Asfura in charge, Hernandez will have all the military support and intelligence he needs to get the coke moving again. It's a dream job. He doesn't even need to turn up to the office to do prez duties, he can just focus on the business. So what's your DL up to? Is he just planning on convicting and pardoning Maduro too, or is there another angle at play here? What? What if that conviction was really a Biden whack job on Hernandez. What advantages does America or Trump personally get from pardoning him if he is really guilty? (Other than supporting your TDS). Please explain, preferably not in grimacing Urdu gibberish. Excellent questions, dear boy. What if it was a Biden whack job? You can read the answer above. With the evidence presented, no one could possibly come to this cunning conclusion. Why would your DL do it? Come come. The Hernandez family has millions in coke money. All anyone needs to do is approach a Trump staffer, friend or member of Mar a Lago and ask a favour, along with a suitable investment in Trump or Melania Coin. What does America get out of it? A few hundred more tons of coke, presumably. Once Hernandez gets the cocaine super highway back up and running, it'll be a buyer's market. And do you know? He's hardly going to face another prosecution, now is he? Your DL's running the DOJ. Hernandez now has the green light. He's free to run coke, guns and even apply for a US visa to visit his long-suffering brother, currently doing 20 years in federal prison. If Hernandez has a forgiving heart, he can pay your DL to get him into one of those cushy work farms with the personal chefs and private massage therapists. WITCH HUNT !!! I said OTHER THAN YOUR TDS. Focus, paki.

Is see. You'd prefer one provided answers in the multiple choice format, would you?

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 9:01pm:

Sophia wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:56pm: I think this is helping me to understand what it’s all about  8-) History lesson! https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS5PVoh6V/ :D :D She must have a Doctor of Divinity. Or a guitar shop.

But you won't be able to refute a thing she said; it's vitually a confirmation of my Wiki link,  in your hopelessly ideologically-confused 'socialism' thread.   

Leroy wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 8:53pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:48pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:04pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:02pm: [quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1767429739/133#133 date=1767606323] https://www.trtworld.com/article/274015df996e Death toll from US attacks in Venezuela rises to 80 — report The report by The New York Times says the toll could rise further. 13 hours ago The death toll from Saturday's US military operation in Venezuela has risen to 80, the New York Times reported on Sunday. Citing a senior Venezuelan official, the Times said on Sunday the number could rise further. Earlier, Venezuela's Defence Minister Vladimir Padrino said a large part of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro's security team had been killed during the US operation, without giving exact numbers. President Donald Trump said US military action on Venezuela resulted in the capture of Maduro, and his wife, Cilia Flores, also pledged to assert American control over the country for the time being, with US troops if necessary. The pair landed in New York late Saturday and is being held at the Metropolitan Detention Centre in Brooklyn. They face US federal charges tied to drug trafficking and alleged cooperation with gangs designated as terrorist organisations. Maduro has denied the accusations, and officials in Venezuela's capital, Caracas, have called for the couple's release. Well Maduro did invite him. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4tKaZ6ntFqY He did too - the silly Billy.    :-[/quote] Just so. He did that silly dance for the leftards. Right after DL told him to take exile in Turkey, funded by the US, with money chipped in for Big Oil, so American taxpayers could foot the bill for your DL's occupation of Venezuela. DEEP STATE !!! See the Don took the less expensive option, MADuro said come and get me, I'm here and DONald did did DONald. And the legend was born, scribes will write poems about him.

I don't think a billion dollar military operation was the less expensive option, Leroy. Moving the USS Gerald Ford to Venezuela alone cost squillions.

Occupying Venezuela will cost squillions more. Paying oil companies to build new oil infrastructure in a foreign country will cost even more.

This action comes in the week American insurance health premiums just doubled - in some cases quadrupled.

How do you think voters will respond to this?

Big Donger wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 9:26pm:

Is see. You'd prefer one provided answers in the multiple choice format, would you?

No, clapped out arse bandit.

All your TDS bollocks is just that, bollocks and blather.

I asked you what strategic or political advantage America would have from pardoning Hernandez if he was really as bad as all that.
There have been show trials, even in America.

So the question is pertinent : why would America pardon a Hernandez.

We know why Bidden pardoned his son.

Why does America need pissy little Honduras or Hennandes on side if Hernandes is guilty?

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 9:31pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:26pm: Is see. You'd prefer one provided answers in the multiple choice format, would you? No, clapped out arse bandit. All your TDS bollocks is just that, bollocks and bather. I asked you what strategic or political advantage America would have from pardoning Hernandez if he was really as bad as all that. There have been show trials, even in America. So the question is pertinent : why would America pardon a Hernandez.

You know me, dear boy, I'd be more than happy to address your questions. You seem, however, to be evading ours.

May we ask why that is?

Is there something here you're trying to hide?

Big Donger wrote on Jan 5^th, 2026 at 9:31pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:53pm: Big Donger wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:48pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:04pm: Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:02pm: [quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1767429739/133#133 date=1767606323] https://www.trtworld.com/article/274015df996e Death toll from US attacks in Venezuela rises to 80 — report The report by The New York Times says the toll could rise further. 13 hours ago The death toll from Saturday's US military operation in Venezuela has risen to 80, the New York Times reported on Sunday. Citing a senior Venezuelan official, the Times said on Sunday the number could rise further. Earlier, Venezuela's Defence Minister Vladimir Padrino said a large part of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro's security team had been killed during the US operation, without giving exact numbers. President Donald Trump said US military action on Venezuela resulted in the capture of Maduro, and his wife, Cilia Flores, also pledged to assert American control over the country for the time being, with US troops if necessary. The pair landed in New York late Saturday and is being held at the Metropolitan Detention Centre in Brooklyn. They face US federal charges tied to drug trafficking and alleged cooperation with gangs designated as terrorist organisations. Maduro has denied the accusations, and officials in Venezuela's capital, Caracas, have called for the couple's release. Well Maduro did invite him. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4tKaZ6ntFqY He did too - the silly Billy.    :-[/quote] Just so. He did that silly dance for the leftards. Right after DL told him to take exile in Turkey, funded by the US, with money chipped in for Big Oil, so American taxpayers could foot the bill for your DL's occupation of Venezuela. DEEP STATE !!! See the Don took the less expensive option, MADuro said come and get me, I'm here and DONald did did DONald. And the legend was born, scribes will write poems about him. I don't think a billion dollar military operation was the less expensive option, Leroy. Moving the USS Gerald Ford to Venezuela alone cost squillions. Occupying Venezuela will cost squillions more. Paying oil companies to build new oil infrastructure in a foreign country will cost even more. This action comes in the week American insurance health premiums just doubled - in some cases quadrupled. How do you think voters will respond to this?

Its a tax on rich people, poor people can't afford health insurance.