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General Discussion >> America >> CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1767270800 Message started by Baronvonrort on Jan 1st, 2026 at 10:33pm |
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Title: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 1st, 2026 at 10:33pm Quote:
18 year old lady complains about Epstein Trump responded by kicking him out of Mar Al Lago 2003 was before Epstein was convicted for soliciting a minor for prostitution. CNN confirms what most people already knew ;) |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by FD on Jan 1st, 2026 at 11:32pm Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 1st, 2026 at 10:33pm:
Jeff was never a member of Mar a Lago, dear. He was a guest of the big fella. Your DL knew he was soliciting minors for prostitution. They acted together. The big fella cut Jeff off over a property deal, as every schoolboy knows. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 2nd, 2026 at 8:37am Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 1st, 2026 at 10:33pm:
Before he was convicted. He was doing it years before though. You know, during the time he was partying with Trump. Why do so many people here defend kiddie fiddlers? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Dnarever on Jan 2nd, 2026 at 11:49am Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 1st, 2026 at 10:33pm:
After spending about 20 years sharing young girls ? You know he was so much fun and he liked his girls on the younger side. Seems that Trumps statment was a significant understatment. But then again even Trump said that the limit for girls was 12. Reasonable indeed for an Epstine pal. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by aquascoot on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 11:38am
This would be great news for the staff at JB HI FI.
they have run out of keyboards to supply the weird lefties sexual fantasies about the subject. To say the left are obsessed is an understatement. Still not one word condemning the 1000 Pakistani men running the child sex ring in Rotherham. Nor one word condemning the lefties who have posted at least a dozen times about the " stench" of the first ladies genitalia. Could it he the left support this sort of weird creepy sexual fantasy. One must assume so. How disgusting |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Dnarever on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 11:55am aquascoot wrote on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 11:38am:
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 12:08pm Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago for poaching one of his underage towel girls who worked in the spa. Trump has admitted this publicly. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by FD on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 12:42pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 11:38am:
The lovely Melania is reported to have visited Rotherham in 2002. I believe she was on a peaceful mission on behalf of the Trump Organisation. Anyhoo, she started playing the field and got knocked up by a few hundred Pakis. A few abortions and she was right as rain in no time, but the stench lingered - even after she popped out Barron. Today, she remembers her stay in Rotherham as some of the best days of her life. Those Pakis sure knew how to treat a lady. Ah, memories. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Bobby. on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 12:56pm Melanias purse wrote on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 12:42pm:
If it sounds like misogyny ......................... :-/ |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 1:57pm Melanias purse wrote on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 12:42pm:
"If you've noticed a strange fishy odor wafting through your house, don't ignore it." Fishy smell in your Rotherham home 🐟 |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Jasin on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 2:04pm
Poor sad Homa-sexual Gwoggy.
Attacks a man's woman. Look like he's running out of smut ammo too. Empty pockets and dumpster diving for material😉 |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by FD on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 3:10pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3rd, 2026 at 1:57pm:
Better get the electricians in to check out the Trump penthouse then, Greggery. Oh - no, don't bother. That's Melania. She cooked Barron up some fish fingers for lunch. Miam miam, no? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 5th, 2026 at 10:40am Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 1st, 2026 at 10:33pm:
Trump claims he and Epstein fell out because Epstein poached underage spa workers from Mar-a-Lago. That's very different. That isn't an allegation from critics, it's Trump's own explanation. Even setting aside the fact they continued to be photographed together at private events afterwards, does this mean Trump was lying when he said it on Airforce One? Or was he mistaken thanks to his cognitive decline? What's genuinely deranged is how MAGA has behaved around the Epstein files over the past five years. They built an entire moral identity around them. The files were treated as sacred text, unimpeachable proof that would finally expose the elites and vindicate every conspiracy, every grievance, every screamed accusation. Then the files are released, heavily redacted in a way that very clearly attempts to minimise Trump's exposure, and suddenly, in 2025, MAGA decides the whole thing is a Democrat hoax. Fake. Unreliable. Corrupt. Except, of course, the parts mentioning Clinton. Those bits are obviously real. Trump's name appearing, fabricated. Clinton's name appearing, definitive proof. That isn't scepticism. It's bad faith. Evidence only matters when it shields Trump or harms his enemies. Everything else is discarded on command, usually accompanied by a conveniently timed distraction, a Somali fraud case, a bout of military action, anything to redirect attention away from the cognitive dissonance. There's no principle here, just loyalty. And loyalty, when it requires this level of selective blindness, stops being political and starts being pathological. I honestly never thought I'd see MAGA shift from their QAnon days of every opponent being tied to child abuse, to then becoming the supporters of peadophiles arguing what is a child. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 10:47am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 10:40am:
I know you can't because you are making it up sadroo but show us evidence that Trump employed under-age workers. If you can't then I assume the rest of your dribble is bullshit too. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 5th, 2026 at 11:05am Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 10:47am:
Virginia Giuffre said in legal filings and interviews that she worked at the Mar-a-Lago spa in Palm Beach in 2000 when she was 16/17 years old. She was employed as a spa attendant/locker-room attendant before being approached by Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein’s circle. This is the poaching Trump was talking about here, as the reason why he and Epstein had their falling out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe0sEoxm9_U A little strange employing an underage girl in a massage spa... |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 11:13am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 11:05am:
What else did Giuffre say about Trump and how he treated her in those legal filings sadroo, you can't bring yourself to say it can you. 16/17 is working age. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 11:24am
So Giuffre said Trump was always nice to her and was not involved with Epstein, she said this on multiple occasions.
Sadroo and Greg are calling her a liar, is that lefties way of caring for the victims of Epstein. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 5th, 2026 at 11:33am Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 11:13am:
I gave you what you asked for, and you moved the goal posts. Shocking... /s How about an apology for the accusation of me making it up? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 11:52am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 11:33am:
You did make it up, Guiffre was 17 when she worked at Maralago and that is not under-age, perfectly legal for a 17 year old to be working. So how did you come to the conclusion she was under-age, what made you make that up. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:45pm
I never said I was talking about the age of employment.
You've inferred that to misrepresent what I've been talking about. In other words, you made that up. This entire exchange has been projection from start to finish, with you accidentally sitting on your own balls halfway through. The context here is Epstein. "Underage" was referring to her being a child, not an adult. Why a child was working in a massage spa at a private resort in the first place, even if she was labelled an "attendant" rather than a masseuse, is deeply unsettling. It is not normal. Trump's own explanation for his falling out with Epstein was that Epstein poached this underage girl from Trump's operation at Mar-a-Lago. That is Trump's account, in his own words, I even posted the video so you don't have to read a transcript. Now we are meant to believe a revised fairy tale where Trump was some kind of protector, heroically intervening to stop unwanted advances? That is not credible, not with Trump's history of being the perpetrator of unwanted advances. They let you do it after all because he holds the vast power imbalance over them. So which is it? Was Trump lying when he said the falling out between him and Epstein, a known child trafficker and rapist, was because Epstein poached an underage girl working in Trump's massage parlour at Mar-a-Lago? Do we believe CNN, or do we believe Trump when he explained it himself? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:01pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 4:45pm:
Watched your video, Trump did not say underage, underage would be under 15 when working and under 16 when referring to sex. Giuffre was 17 when she worked for Trump so she was not underage. You made that up to try and make it look like Trump was doing something wrong and it has backfired in your face you liar. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:18pm
So we're back to defending the rape of children by arguing what a child is?
She was under 18 while working there. Just because Trump didn't say it doesn't make it untrue. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:26pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:18pm:
Defending rape of children, Giuffre was never raped by Trump, Giuffre never had sex with Trump. Giuffre was 17 when she worked for Trump which is not underage. You are making up lies to try and justify your TDS. How am I defending rape of children you fool. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:31pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:18pm:
You stupid backward idiot, if a sixteen year old is considered a child then by law in America you can legally have sex with a 16 year old. Then by your own whacky definition it is legal to have sex with a child in America. In Australia you can legally have sex with a sixteen year old person, so by your definition in Australia it is legal to have sex with children. Can you even see how stupid you are being. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:38pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:18pm:
That's what Jasin, Leroy, aquascoot, and Frank do best. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:40pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:38pm:
I would never defend you greg . |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:41pm Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:01pm:
Thus, a child. Stop defending child exploitation. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:46pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:41pm:
I cant be more specific greg I would never support you. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:48pm
So sadroo hops off and big bad greg comes to fling shyte.
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by FD on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:52pm Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:48pm:
It all brings in the ad revenue, Leroy. Where's Freediver? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by FD on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:56pm Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:26pm:
Virginia was 16 when she worked for the big fella, dear. Just the right age to run the towel room at the spa, no? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:10pm Melanias purse wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 5:56pm:
Even if that was true, SO WHAT, millions of 16 year old girls work its completely normal for a 16 year old girl to get a job. Go to other countries like Pakistan and girls as young as eight years old are allowed to work. Your point is pointless. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:21pm Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:10pm:
Leroy has lowered his limit to 8. Oh dear. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by FD on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:49pm Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:10pm:
Sorry, are you accusing your DL of applying Pakistani employment policies? Your DL granted Virginia access to a notorious paedophile, who poached her from Mar a Lago into a child sex trafficking ring. Your DL is on record stating this. He's also all through the Epstein files sharing time with his best buddy Jeff, America's most notorious paedophile. DL's in photos with his buddy's victims, their faces blacked out. Do you support the hiring policies of Mar a Lago? Cheers. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:51pm Melanias purse wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:49pm:
Not whited out but blacked out, the buggeren racists. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by FD on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:52pm Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:51pm:
Do you want to answer the question? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 7:06pm Melanias purse wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:52pm:
Can you be a bit more specific, do I want to answer the question or do you want me to answer the question, or are you being sarcastic and demand I answer the question. Can this answer be used against me in a court of law and is it legal to ask me this question. Can you state your age so I know if it is legal for me to converse with you. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by FD on Jan 5th, 2026 at 7:43pm Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 7:06pm:
Don't want to say? That's a question. What's the matter, Leroy, cat got your tongue? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 7:59pm Melanias purse wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 7:43pm:
Bloody cats, did you know if you died locked in your house your dog would lay down beside you and die too but a cat would eat you. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:11pm Will Leroy lower his limit below eight? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:18pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:11pm:
Get lonely over at film television and radio greg, but your threads were piling up the posts with lively conversation, needed a bit of time for the butthurt cream to work eh. ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by FD on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:58pm Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 7:59pm:
So you agree with the employment policies of Mar a Lago, do you? You're okay with trafficking underage girls to paedophiles. If you beg to differ, we repeat: Please explain? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by FD on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:02pm Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 8:18pm:
It's a reasonable question, Leroy. If those fillies sitting on your DL's lap are found to be under 8, are you okay with that? That's a question. If you'd prefer to play Vinnie, just say that. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:10pm Melanias purse wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:02pm:
Its your mind, you tell us what you want from this fantasy. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by FD on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:23pm Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 9:10pm:
I see. You don't want to say. Are you steeling yourself for news that your DL did indeed finger fillies under 8? Or are you just okay with that sort of thing? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 6th, 2026 at 12:30am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 10:40am:
Virginia wasn't underage to work at Mar Al lago can you cite a law that prohibits this? Trump did fall out with Epstein in 2003 even biased woke lefty CNN confirms this. There are no photos of Trump with Epstein since they fell out 23 years ago and no public sightings of them. All you assclowns have is photos that are over 23 years old. Meanwhile none of the retards with TDS like sadskip mention Clinton who numerous women have claimed was a sex offender and was also a friend of Epstein. Court documents said Clinton likes them young. clinton_massage.jpg (53 KB | 3
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 6th, 2026 at 12:32am
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Jasin on Jan 6th, 2026 at 1:39am
JFK would have loved Epstein
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:03am The pedo apologists are still at it ::) |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Jasin on Jan 6th, 2026 at 8:20am
Where's your proof wanker?
Did he sniff little girls hair and ask them about their sex life?? There's proof in Biden being an ice-cream man PEDO. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 6th, 2026 at 10:54am Leroy wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 6:10pm:
My claim was, in response to OP highlighting a CNN post about how Trump and Epstein had a falling out: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 10:40am:
We've gone from you deflecting to the age of the worker, accusing me of making it up, to insisting she wasn't underage, to arguing what underage means and now landing on "so what if she was underage". That progression alone tells its own story. The point was always this, the narrative about Trump and Epstein falling out comes from Trump himself. By his own account, it wasn't some principled stand against abuse, it was about Epstein poaching Trump's underage spa workers. Not that Epstein later abused or trafficked her, but that he took her, and others, from Trump. CNN spins a different tale, one about Trump protecting staff from unwanted advances. That version does not align with Trump's own words, nor does it align with his long, well-documented history as the one who makes the unwanted advances, not stops them. When I asked the very simple question of who we're meant to believe, Trump or CNN, you dodged it entirely and launched into a tangent you've now quietly abandoned, capped off with a limp "so what" backdown. I'm still waiting for the apology for falsely accusing me of making things up, dear. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 6th, 2026 at 11:16am Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 12:30am:
You're doing the same thing that Leroy was. Being legally allowed to work does not mean someone isn't underage. In Florida, minors can work from 14 upwards under specific conditions. That has nothing to do with whether they are a child in every other legal sense. "Underage" does not mean "illegal to employ". It means under 18, a minor, lacking full legal capacity, and owed heightened duty of care by adults and employers. If we're talking the age of consent, in Florida in the 2000s, the age of sexual consent was 18 years old, meaning that under state law, anyone under 18 would be considered underage too. Stop deflecting. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 6th, 2026 at 11:25am Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 12:30am:
Nobody is defending Clinton, nor is anyone even talking about him in this context. He has nothing to do with Trump and Epstein's falling out. If he has been caught with underage girls as well, then he should face the courts and justice like anyone else. Deflecting to Clinton is not a defence of Trump. It is a textbook dodge, and only people suffering from genuine TDS think it passes as an argument. Nobody is walking around in Clinton merch, hats, flags, shoes, watches, phones, or treating him like a messianic figure. That level of obsession exists only among people like you when it comes to Trump. There is nobody to defend Clinton, no matter what he's done, like those who have adopted Trump as their lord and saviour. And between Trump and Clinton, only one of them is publicly advocating for the full release of the Epstein files to clear their name. Here's a hint: it isn't Trump. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by FD on Jan 6th, 2026 at 11:42am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 10:54am:
I think you've got it. If you keep going, Baron will say so what if DL had her first? Baron never said DL was perfect. So what if he likes his girls a little on the young side? What's wrong with worshiping a paedophile prez? They're all as bad as each other, no? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by FD on Jan 6th, 2026 at 11:44am Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 12:32am:
And let's not forget Hilary's emails, Sad. They all do it, no? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 6th, 2026 at 10:18pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 11:16am:
You're the one making a mountain out of a molehill about Virginia working at Mar Al Lago so tell us what problem you have with her being under 18 when she worked there. Virginia said under oath Trump never did anything inappropriate with her or anyone else sounds like you're clutching at straws there sadskip. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 6th, 2026 at 10:35pm Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 10:18pm:
sadroo has found a way to put Trump and underage into the same sentence and thinks that proves Trump is a pedophile and anyone who disputes her warped tangled theory supports pedophiles and child abuse. TDS on steriods. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by aquascoot on Jan 7th, 2026 at 6:08am Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 12:30am:
That face looks like Bill |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 7th, 2026 at 6:45am Leroy wrote on Jan 6th, 2026 at 10:35pm:
This has been clear from my very first post, which I can quote again if needed. I'm questioning CNN's version of events. Trump himself has said the falling out happened because Epstein kept poaching his staff, including underage girls, from his Mar-a-Lago spa. That is Trump's account. If CNN's story is that the split occurred because Trump was bravely protecting people from unwanted advances, it directly contradicts Trump's own explanation, and his long, well documented history of being the perpetrator of unwanted advances. Acting as a moral sentry against predatory behaviour is not, and has never been, on brand for him. So the question is simple, and it's the one you've all been frantically dodging. Do we believe CNN, or do we believe Trump? That single question is what triggered pages of distraction, deflection and procedural noise from you lot, because answering it forces you into an uncomfortable corner. First I was accused of making it up. Then we descended into semantic bullshit over what "underage" means. That eventually collapsed into a limp "so what if she was underage" retreat. And now you're calling in reinforcements to keep the distraction machine running. I mentioned, accurately, that she was underage while working at the spa. You're the ones who fixated on that, not me. You want to talk about TDS? Fine. How about the fact that merely clarifying the age of the person at the centre of the Trump–Epstein falling out sends you into an immediate scramble to defend Trump. No analysis, no curiosity, just reflex. It's genuinely revealing. The moment "underage" is stated, even as a factual clarification, the discussion derails into excuses, minimisation, and deflection. That isn't scepticism, it's a conditioned response. At this point it looks less like critical thinking and more like a baked-in, reflexive, pedo-adjacent defence mechanism hardwired into MAGA discourse. So I'll ask it again, slowly, since you keep running from it. Who are we meant to believe, CNN or Trump? And if their accounts conflict, who is lying, or who is so cognitively compromised they can't keep their own story straight anymore? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 7th, 2026 at 6:54am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 6:45am:
So where did I support Pedophiles and child abuse sadroo? Why wont you name the pedophile you claim I support. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 7th, 2026 at 7:01am Leroy wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 6:54am:
More distractions. I answered your question already. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 7th, 2026 at 7:10am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 7:01am:
You have not answered the question. you claimed I support pedophiles and child abuse. Why dont you have the guts to name the pedophile I supported. Its because you have TDS and will make up allegations and I'm calling you out as the liar you are. Tell me which pedophile I supported because you made the allegation. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 7th, 2026 at 7:27am Leroy wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 7:10am:
If you genuinely oppose child abuse, why is it that every discussion about the Epstein files, or Epstein's own claims about Trump, is immediately met with distraction and derailment the moment Trump's name is mentioned? When Biden, Clinton, or any other left-wing figure comes up, the position is simple and consistent, if they're guilty, they should face justice like anyone else. No special pleading. No whataboutism. But when it's Trump, suddenly the reflex is to deflect, minimise, or defend at all costs. So let's strip away the evasions and clear this up properly, once and for all. If the unredacted Epstein files are released, something Trump has been ordered by Congress to facilitate but instead chose to bomb Venezuela and kidnap the President and his wife, and those files implicate Trump in crimes involving the sexual abuse or exploitation of minors, would you support his impeachment and subsequent prosecution, notwithstanding his current claims of Presidential immunity? Yes or no? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 7th, 2026 at 7:34am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 7:27am:
So you are relying on what you think might be in the files, you are not making claims Trump is a pedophile because there is evidence of it but you are making claims that Trump is a pedophile because if there was evidence then he would be a pedophile. And if anyone does not follow your reasoning then they support pedophiles Cant you see how TDS is in play here. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 7th, 2026 at 7:38am Leroy wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 7:34am:
Yes or No? So far you're deflecting again... If you would genuinely support that, then it's clear you are not defending the abuse of children, and I was wrong to accuse you of doing so. In that case, I'm prepared to take back the accusation and formally apologise, which is more than I can say for the apology I'm still waiting on after your own false claims about me. But that only happens after you answer the question. Dodging it doesn't clear your name, it only reinforces the suspicion. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 7th, 2026 at 7:49am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 7:38am:
If the Epstein files prove that there is no evidence of Trump being a pedophile are you going to appologise to the victims for protecting the real pedophiles. You are using Trump to protect the likes of Clinton and Summers and the worst part is you know that. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by aquascoot on Jan 7th, 2026 at 7:56am Leroy wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 7:34am:
That's pretty logical Leroy but you have to understand we live in a post truth world. Skippy is entitled to his truth. Trump is entitled to his Both are just monkeys flinging their faces around. We are in this paradigm shift. The smart thing is Trump understands why he is a monkey flinging poo at the EU or the UN or NATO or meduro but they haven't caught on yet :) |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:23am Leroy wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 7:49am:
Firstly, you didn't answer the question, AGAIN. But I'll humour you. If the full, unredacted Epstein files are released and there is no evidence that Trump sexually abused any minors, meaning no sexual contact with anyone under 18, then the accusation is disproven and I will stop questioning his links to Epstein. That's what accountability looks like. Will I apologise to victims for "protecting" real paedophiles? No, because I'm not protecting anyone. I want the full, unredacted files released. I want everyone named who has committed wrongdoing to be investigated and charged if the evidence warrants it. I am not the one trying to suppress their release. That is Trump and his supporters. The difference between us is simple. I'm prepared to accept whatever the evidence shows, even if it clears someone I dislike. Your deflections, distractions and refusal to answer questions has shown that you are not prepared to accept whatever it shows if it implicates someone you defend. Quote:
No, I'm not. I've said this repeatedly, if Clinton, Biden, or anyone else is in those files with credible evidence against them, they should be held to account and face the full force of the law. Even Clinton himself is calling for their release to clear his name. So explain this to me, how does demanding full transparency, with no excuses, no immunities, and no deflections, amount to protecting anyone? It's the exact opposite. You're so riddled with TDS that you assume everyone else plays the same tribal defence game you do. You think criticism must be partisan, and accountability must be selective. Wrong. There is no excuse for child abuse. Full stop. The only person here demonstrating any instinct to protect potential child abusers is you. You won't even commit, yes or no, to supporting impeachment so Trump can be fully investigated and held to account if compelling evidence of sexual abuse of minors appears in the complete, unredacted Epstein files. Instead, you tried to flip the script and force me to answer for people on the left. That tactic only works if the other person is also invested in shielding their "side". I'm not. If anyone on the left appears in those files, Clinton, Gates, Biden, whoever, and there is evidence of wrongdoing, they should be prosecuted accordingly. All of them. Including Trump. So again, I will ask you, ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 7:27am:
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:37am aquascoot wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 7:56am:
You should sit this one out, Scoot. Unlike Leroy, who is defending Trump over the possibility he abused children, you defended Epstein, a convicted child abuser, by trying to reframe his crimes as some "Playboy mansion party island" for the rich and powerful. All the while, you deliberately ignore the court records documenting his coercion, intimidation, trafficking, grooming, sexual abuse, confiscation of passports, and isolation of minors. Minimising that isn't clever. It's grotesque. "Your truth" is disgusting. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:49am
Sadroo you said the difference between us is you are prepared to accept what the evidence shows.
Can you show what evidence that shows Trump was/is involved in paedophilia, all the news networks including CNN have categorically stated there is no evidence of wrongdoing by Trump, so it's up to you now to provide the evidence you claim to have, of course if you just made it all up then you would not be able to show this evidence and you are lying when you say you are prepared to accept what the evidence shows. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by FD on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:53am ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:23am:
Leroy? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 7th, 2026 at 11:02am Melanias purse wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:53am:
There is no evidence that Trump was involved in wrongdoings in the Epstein files as reported by CNN and all news outlets. If you present evidence that he was then you can ask that question, but that hasn't happened. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 7th, 2026 at 12:08pm Leroy wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 10:49am:
Answer my question first. I've humoured your deflections enough. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 7th, 2026 at 12:10pm Leroy wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 11:02am:
So you won't commit to holding Trump to account if it's proven he's abused children. And you wonder why you get accused of defending peadophiles... Full-blown Trump Derrangement Syndrome. Especially after you demanded others take the same stand against Clinton or other left leaning people. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 7th, 2026 at 12:49pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 12:10pm:
So Trump has not been proven to be paedophile and if I defend him because he has been proven not be a paedophile that means I'm defending a paedophile and child abuse. Seriously do you want to rethink that, can't you see the TDS there. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 7th, 2026 at 1:08pm Leroy wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 12:49pm:
The only reason we don't have answers is because Trump refuses to release the unredacted Epstein files. And now, coincidentally on the very deadline when he was statutorily obliged to explain those redactions, he's bombed another country and abducted its President, overtaking the news cycle to burry the fact that he did not meet his obligations around the Epstein files.. He signed the law himself, yet he's flagrantly ignored it. The accused sits on the evidence and goes to war to ensure it never sees the light of day. And you refuse to commit to holding him accountable if that evidence proves he sexually abused children. Yet somehow none of this applies to Clinton, only Trump. I've been consistent from the start. You, on the other hand, change the rules for Trump, making it clear you won't hold him to account even if he's proven to have abused minors. In that context, your accusations about TDS are worthless, nothing but projection and deflection from a stance that is, frankly, abhorrent. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 7th, 2026 at 1:21pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 1:08pm:
Once again you are making things up, the accused sits on the evidence,, Trump has not been accused of anything, CNN have reported along with all news outlets that Trump has not been accused of anything. So your premis is Trump took out Maduro because you and Greg accused him of paedophilia. TDS is the only evidence you are providing. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7th, 2026 at 1:27pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 1:08pm:
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Jan 7th, 2026 at 1:50pm Leroy wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 1:21pm:
So you won't condemn Trump if he's found to have, with a subsequent release of the unredacted Epstein files, to have sexually abused minors. Disgusting, but on brand. How about this, despite your deflects and distractions to Biden or Clinton previously, do you think Trump should release the unredacted files, as required by the law he signed into existence? Do you acknowledge the lengths he's gone to in order to suppress the files, then remove any mention of him from the files and the searchable database? Do you at least condemn that, or, can you offer an explanation as to why he did this that isn't the obvious?? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by FD on Jan 7th, 2026 at 5:54pm Leroy wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 11:02am:
No no, we're asking the question. If your DL is found to have hung out with Jeff, raped the kiddies, and kept it all a wonderful secret, will you call for his immediate impeachment and trial? That's a question. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Leroy on Jan 7th, 2026 at 6:23pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 7th, 2026 at 1:50pm:
You want me to condemn someone for something they have not done, cant you see the TDS is overtaking your reasoning. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by FD on Jan 7th, 2026 at 6:39pm
Hey Leroy, ask Sad if she would condemn Sleepy Joe if he was found to be fingering 13 year old fillies.
Crickets chirping. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Feb 11th, 2026 at 6:58am Quote:
So I guess we're back to the question: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 5th, 2026 at 10:40am:
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 11th, 2026 at 2:30pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 11th, 2026 at 6:58am:
There are no pics of Trump with Epstein for over 20 years. Since you claim there are post them ya bullshitter! Epstein belives Trump dobbed him in this has been established in previously released docs. Quote:
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Feb 11th, 2026 at 3:30pm Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 11th, 2026 at 2:30pm:
I've seen reports of this photo being from 2012, Even if the timeline is off, or the image is fabricated, it changes nothing else in my post. That said, if I've got that part wrong, I'm happy to post a retraction for that mistake, however I don't think I can edit the original post anymore. Trump's own account directly contradicts reports that Epstein was asked to leave, and now Epstein's own lawyers confirm it never happened. And yet you still believe it? Was Trump lying, or is his cognitive decline to blame for this scrambled narrative? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Frank on Feb 11th, 2026 at 4:08pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 11th, 2026 at 3:30pm:
That's you in a nutty shell. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by ProudKangaroo on Feb 12th, 2026 at 9:31am Frank wrote on Feb 11th, 2026 at 4:08pm:
It is. If I've made a mistake, I've owned it. What I'm not going to do is pretend that a single error invalidates the substance of the argument or allows the rest of the facts to be waved away. So what exactly would you prefer? That I ghost the thread, or descend into personal abuse, the way you do every time you're caught lying or getting something wrong? That's not accountability, it's evasion or avoidance, your specialty, not mine. Yet I'm meant to be the leftie, and you're on the supposed side of personal responsibility... |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Melanias purse on Feb 12th, 2026 at 10:38am ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 12th, 2026 at 9:31am:
Intelligence and integwity, innit. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Frank on Feb 12th, 2026 at 11:11am ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 12th, 2026 at 9:31am:
The style she adopted made those protestations of innocence far easier to sustain. Because so much of her public presence takes the form of short, disjointed social-media interventions, its overall content is inherently difficult to reconstruct, allowing her to brush aside the objections her vitriolic statements regularly provoke. Yet when reassembled, those fragments cohere into a moral and political universe that leaves little room for persuasion, inquiry, or disagreement – and whose unqualified exaltation of violence, adamant rejection of intellectual and political pluralism, and strident advocacy of harassment and intimidation sharply contradict her self-presentation as an academic rationally and peacefully advocating for Palestinian rights. At the heart of that style, which has now become her trademark, lies its incessant tempo. The sheer pace and intensity of Abdel-Fattah’s outpourings continuously stoke her supporters’ rage while leaving opponents flat-footed and disoriented. The need to remain at the front of the pack leads her to constantly escalate the vehemence of her rhetorical aggression, generating torrents of increasingly incendiary claims that gain traction not by withstanding scrutiny, but by permanently outrunning it. ALL THIS applies just as well to Sad 'n Proud, Karnal, armchair, sprinty, gweggy et al. It's as if their training manual has been discovered. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Melanias purse on Feb 12th, 2026 at 11:40am Frank wrote on Feb 12th, 2026 at 11:11am:
Hey, old boy, why don't you respond to Sad's post and remind us all how ethical you truly are? You attended the pwestigious, remember. You come from a Superior Culture. You're liber... Sorry. Lib... We'll let you say it, dear chap. In the words of the bard, please explain? |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Dnarever on Feb 12th, 2026 at 11:41am Quote:
Over a property deal and after they had been accused of sharing children for over a decade ? Trump supposidly appears in the Epstine files more often than Harry potter appears in Harry poter. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 12th, 2026 at 5:04pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 11th, 2026 at 3:30pm:
AI comparisons with other photos of Trump and Epstein comparing their ages puts it around 2000-2005. Looks like a social event are you the wimpering type who will decline a social invitation because someone you don't like could be there? Epstein was kicked out of Mar Al lago after he approached a 15 year old daughter of a member. The manager of Mar Al Lago booted Epstein out Trump agreed with decision this has been widely reported it was original story perhaps you should stop looking at youtube and other fake news. Trump delegates things like this to the manager of Mar Al Lago he doesn't get personally involved with day to day decisions it was reported he had no problem with it. Epsteins emails show he was booted out of Mar Al Lago he wasn't happy with that. Trump and Epstein fell out for good over a real estate deal in 2004 with a $40 million mansion Virginia Guiffre confirmed this in writing |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Melanias purse on Feb 12th, 2026 at 7:15pm Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 12th, 2026 at 5:04pm:
Excellent question, Baron. Is Sad the type who will decline a drink and a chuckle with a naughty old pedo? That's a tough one. Jeff was never a member of Mar a Lago, dear. He stopped attending when he fell out with your DL over a property deal. Jeff put in an offer for a mansion he liked. The big fella, broke at the time, out-bidded him. In the end, none of them got it - it went to a Russian oligarch, who was believed to be fronting for a Russian criminal. Jeff believed the Don was bidding on behalf of the criminal too. For Jeff, it was a deal breaker - no more banging babes with the big fella. During their fight, Donnie threatened to call the cops and report Jeff's wonderful secrets. Jeff told the story to author, Michael Wolf. The Epstein files confirm it. There, in an old FBI file, is a transcript of a call from the big fella to the Palm Beach police chief. The transcript records the Don dobbing in his buddy Jeff. "Thank goodness you're stopping him," Donnie said. "Everyone has known he's been doing this." Not too many knew the Don joined in. The picture you're referencing shows the Don siding up at a party, trying to get back into Jeff's good books. So I'm curious. Are you the wimpering type who attends a party to suck up to a notorious paedophile you've dobbed into the cops? A simple yes or no will suffice. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Frank on Feb 12th, 2026 at 7:48pm Quote:
Questions questions questions. May I ask a few? Just questions, like yours, you understand.... Is it true that you travel overseas as a sex tourist? I have read about this here somewhere. Sounds plausaible. Are you a sex tourist? DO you go for any particular penchant? Boys? Girls. Lady boys? grannies? You are a self confessed back door bandit. Do you go overseas and buy poor people's back doors? Just questions, you understand. A discussion, as you call it. |
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Title: Re: CNN report Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar al Lago Post by Melanias purse on Feb 12th, 2026 at 7:53pm Frank wrote on Feb 12th, 2026 at 7:48pm:
I most certainly do not, dear boy. Thanks for asking. Now, are you a naughty old racist? A simple yes or no will suffice. |
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