(continued) ...

“The Segal motion from the Bronte Waverley branch stated that “anti-Semitism, indeed all hate speech, is abhorrent” but objected to the report’s recommendations to enforce accountability on universities and public broad­casters, including termination of funding.
The central problem, according to the motion, “is that the definition of anti-Semitism in the Special Envoy’s Report is contested. The concern is that legitimate criticism of the actions of the ­Israeli government will be conflated with anti-Semitism”.The ABC and SBS already have exacting standards covering their broadcasts. The powers suggested by the Special Envoy would imperil the independence of Australia’s public broadcasters and their reputation for impartiality.”
The branch noted “the strong representations of ABC Friends and ABC Alumni” as well as the national Tertiary Education Union.
The motion pointed to an article by ABC Friends national president Cassandra Parkinson, who said she read the Segal report “as a plan to crack down on Australia’s intellectual and cultural life … that far exceeded the envoy’s terms of reference and if implemented, would have bleak consequences for our country”.
The original motion called upon the federal government to “react to” the Segal report in its entirety but this was a typographical error and amended to say “reject”.
An attempt to dilute the motion, by noting concerns in relation to “certain” recommendations, rather than the entire report, and that the powers suggested by Segal “may” imperil the ABC’s independence, was voted down.
Executive Council of Australian Jewry co-CEO Peter Wertheim called the motion “a betrayal of Jewish Australians”.
“It’s one thing to have an issue with particular aspects of the Special Envoy’s action plan, but to call upon the federal government to reject the plan ‘in its entirety’ is symptomatic of the catastrophic moral failure of the centre left in Australia to stand up against extremism and racism in its own ranks,” he said.
“The motion passed by the ALP’s federal electoral council in the seat with the nation’s highest percentage of Jewish voters is a betrayal of Jewish Australians who have become the targets of vicious acts of discrimination, hostility and violence. It sends a message that the council either denies that anti-Semitism is a singular problem that requires a bespoke response, or does not consider anti-Semitism to warrant concern.”
The Australian has sought comment from Mr Collins and Ms Dovey.
A Wentworth FEC Labor official who declined to be identified said: “This is a motion that comes up from the branches. It’s not a motion the FEC has developed.”
I’m pretty sure there’ll be a whole raft of new resolutions that will be coming up, particularly in the light that the Prime Minister has already acted on a number of resolutions already contained in the report, so I’m pretty sure there will be an opportunity to revisit that in the new year as soon as we’ve reconvened,” they said.
The Wentworth FEC last year called for Israel to be sanctioned by the federal government and suspended from the UN."

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10239869078849317&set=gm.25003932435955772&idorvanity=7350672995041655

"“Senior Labor figures – including the daughter of former prime minister Gough Whitlam – voted last month to reject all recommendations of anti-Semitism Special Envoy Jillian Segal, despite representing the Jewish community at the heart of Sunday’s terror attack.
The Labor Party’s Wentworth federal electoral council, which covers Bondi and other large Jewish communities in Sydney’s east, called for the Albanese government to reject the Segal report “in its entirety”.
The Australian has obtained the minutes, marked “confidential”, of the Wentworth FEC meeting held on November 5, which show the motion was passed after noting the “strong representations” of ABC Friends and ABC Alumni.
The motion, from the ALP’s Bronte Waverley branch, was moved by Michael Collins and seconded by Catherine Dovey, daughter of Whitlam and wife of ABC chair Kim Williams.
The vote has sparked outrage within Labor and been described as “a betrayal” by Jewish leaders, as the federal government ramps up its response to the Segal report in the wake of Sunday’s terror attack at Bondi Beach.
Anthony Albanese on Thursday conceded the government “could have always done more” to combat anti-Semitism after announcing landmark changes to hate speech laws and immigration powers.
Labor’s Wentworth FEC is responsible for organising election campaigns and selecting candidates in the eastern suburbs electorate, home to one of the largest Jewish communities in Australia.
A separate motion was put to the Wentworth FEC at the same November meeting to prosecute Australians who have served in the Israeli Defence Forces since Oct­ober 7, 2023, “for genocide, war crimes or crimes against humanity” but was withdrawn before debate on it had finished.
The motion, from Labor’s King Cross branch, also urged the Australian government to support a case in the International Court of Justice that Israel was committing genocide in Gaza."

continued:-

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 6:12pm:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10239869078849317&set=gm.25003932435955772&idorvanity=7350672995041655 "“Senior Labor figures – including the daughter of former prime minister Gough Whitlam – voted last month to reject all recommendations of anti-Semitism Special Envoy Jillian Segal, despite representing the Jewish community at the heart of Sunday’s terror attack. The Labor Party’s Wentworth federal electoral council, which covers Bondi and other large Jewish communities in Sydney’s east, called for the Albanese government to reject the Segal report “in its entirety”. The Australian has obtained the minutes, marked “confidential”, of the Wentworth FEC meeting held on November 5, which show the motion was passed after noting the “strong representations” of ABC Friends and ABC Alumni. The motion, from the ALP’s Bronte Waverley branch, was moved by Michael Collins and seconded by Catherine Dovey, daughter of Whitlam and wife of ABC chair Kim Williams. The vote has sparked outrage within Labor and been described as “a betrayal” by Jewish leaders, as the federal government ramps up its response to the Segal report in the wake of Sunday’s terror attack at Bondi Beach. Anthony Albanese on Thursday conceded the government “could have always done more” to combat anti-Semitism after announcing landmark changes to hate speech laws and immigration powers. Labor’s Wentworth FEC is responsible for organising election campaigns and selecting candidates in the eastern suburbs electorate, home to one of the largest Jewish communities in Australia. A separate motion was put to the Wentworth FEC at the same November meeting to prosecute Australians who have served in the Israeli Defence Forces since Oct­ober 7, 2023, “for genocide, war crimes or crimes against humanity” but was withdrawn before debate on it had finished. The motion, from Labor’s King Cross branch, also urged the Australian government to support a case in the International Court of Justice that Israel was committing genocide in Gaza." continued:-

Does Michael Collins have a father, why isn't his father mentioned.

The Left also have Australia and America phobia.
They seem to reflect the interests of mainland Europe, Asia and Africa (and it's Moslems & Aborigines) instead.

Ahhh colonisation.

Quote:

The ABC and SBS already have exacting standards covering their broadcasts.

LOL. The ABC promoted the anti-Israel marches, and deliberately ignored obvious links to Hamas and other Islamic hate groups, like the one who were down at Sydney chanting where's the Jews. But if any protest had even a whiff of criticism of Islam, they were basically painted as Nazis and the ABC did exposes on the alleged links and warned readers not to attend.

The ABC has been fuelling the hatred of Jews that lead to the massacre. Our tax dollars are funding the erosion of the most basic human rights in Australia, including the right to life and liberty.

freediver wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 10:23am:

LOL. The ABC promoted the anti-Israel marches, and deliberately ignored obvious links to Hamas and other Islamic hate groups, like the one who were down at Sydney chanting where's the Jews. But if any protest had even a whiff of criticism of Islam, they were basically painted as Nazis and the ABC did exposes on the alleged links and warned readers not to attend. The ABC has been fuelling the hatred of Jews that lead to the massacre. Our tax dollars are funding the erosion of the most basic human rights in Australia, including the right to life and liberty.

The problem is that everyone is buying into the
endless cycle of violence and murder in the Middle East - not just the ABC.

Now it has come here too.
Australia should be a sanctuary from a dangerous world,
but we imported the trouble here.

All media links with news could be banned for over 16 year olds.
Ozpol will be shut down. Bobby will shut up.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 6:10pm:

(continued) ...

 
Judeophobia is caused by extremists acting on the OTs "Promised Land" mythology.

Wake up. 

freediver wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 10:23am:

Quote: The ABC and SBS already have exacting standards covering their broadcasts. LOL. The ABC promoted the anti-Israel marches, and deliberately ignored obvious links to Hamas and other Islamic hate groups, like the one who were down at Sydney chanting where's the Jews. But if any protest had even a whiff of criticism of Islam, they were basically painted as Nazis and the ABC did exposes on the alleged links and warned readers not to attend. The ABC has been fuelling the hatred of Jews that lead to the massacre. Our tax dollars are funding the erosion of the most basic human rights in Australia, including the right to life and liberty.

Biased narrative as usual.

The ABC was recently chastised for sacking Muslim journalist Anoinette Lattouf:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-29/antoinette-lattouf-sacking-exposed-power-of-lobbying-on-media/105463398

..governments, militaries, and lobby groups try to stop the media telling stories, and I wondered if news audiences would like major media outlets to talk about it more:

"They might be shocked to learn about the orchestrated bullying that goes on, which is designed to discourage editors and journalists from reporting on certain topics and framing stories in certain ways, even speaking to certain people," the piece said.

"Would it improve media literacy if the media wrote about these issues openly and regularly?"

Then, three days later, we heard relevant news.

On Wednesday, the Federal Court ruled that the ABC had unlawfully sacked journalist Antoinette Lattouf, in December 2023, for reasons including that she held political opinions opposing the Israeli military campaign in Gaza.


Oh ... and as to your concerns re protection of the right to life and liberty: the latter includes freedom from entrenched systemic disadvantge and macro-economic dysfunction which is locking an entire generation out of home owner-ship in Oz.    The ABC won't touch the issue. 

australian #albo #antisemitism #labor
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thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

freediver wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:23am: Quote: The ABC and SBS already have exacting standards covering their broadcasts. LOL. The ABC promoted the anti-Israel marches, and deliberately ignored obvious links to Hamas and other Islamic hate groups, like the one who were down at Sydney chanting where's the Jews. But if any protest had even a whiff of criticism of Islam, they were basically painted as Nazis and the ABC did exposes on the alleged links and warned readers not to attend. The ABC has been fuelling the hatred of Jews that lead to the massacre. Our tax dollars are funding the erosion of the most basic human rights in Australia, including the right to life and liberty. Biased narrative as usual. The ABC was recently chastised for sacking Muslim journalist Anoinette Lattouf: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-29/antoinette-lattouf-sacking-exposed-power-of-lobbying-on-media/105463398 ..governments, militaries, and lobby groups try to stop the media telling stories, and I wondered if news audiences would like major media outlets to talk about it more: "They might be shocked to learn about the orchestrated bullying that goes on, which is designed to discourage editors and journalists from reporting on certain topics and framing stories in certain ways, even speaking to certain people," the piece said. "Would it improve media literacy if the media wrote about these issues openly and regularly?" Then, three days later, we heard relevant news. On Wednesday, the Federal Court ruled that the ABC had unlawfully sacked journalist Antoinette Lattouf, in December 2023, for reasons including that she held political opinions opposing the Israeli military campaign in Gaza. Oh ... and as to your concerns re protection of the right to life and liberty: the latter includes freedom from entrenched systemic disadvantge and macro-economic dysfunction which is locking an entire generation out of home owner-ship in Oz.    The ABC won't touch the issue.

It is not biased to point out the ABC's bias. The court case does not change any of the facts about what the ABC has been publishing.

If you aren't aware of what's going on right now, let me break it down for you. Jews worldwide are being hunted down and killed. It's only day three of Hanukkah, and already we've seen:
1. Jews murdered by a jihadi father-son duo in Australia that seriously wounded many people.
2. Students at BROWN were murdered in a class being taught by Rachel Friedberg, a Jewish professor who leads the school's Judaic Studies program.
3. A Jewish professor of nuclear physics at M.I.T. was murdered in his home today.
4. Orthodox Jews in New York were violently assaulted on the subway.
5. Violent Palestinian protestors disrupted a peaceful Hanukkah celebration in Amsterdam. Dozens were arrested after police had to physically surround families celebrating the holiday to protect them.
6. A Jewish family in California had their home hit by gunfire because they had Hanukkah decorations up. One of the criminals shouted, "Free Palestine."
7. An Islamic terrorist attack has been foiled in Poland at a Christmas market.
8. An Islamic terrorist attack has been foiled in Germany at a Christmas market.
9. A Palestinian terrorist attack was foiled in California.
10. France has cancelled its NYE celebrations because of the terrorist threat level.
11. Canada's Integrated Terrorism Assessment Centre has said that a terrorist attack in Canada is now "a realistic possibility."
I've been studying terrorism for 20 years, and I've never seen things this bad. The West is under attack – full stop. The question now is, what the hell are we going to do about it?
@DrCaseyBabb


NOTE:- I launched this over Judeophobia to differentiate it from Anti-Semitism  and to give that equal billing with 'Islamophobia' (the fear of being killed by a random nut-bag) - there are a few Semitic groups.... and I wanted the focus to be on Judaism alone.

freediver wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 12:22pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:46am: freediver wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:23am: Quote: The ABC and SBS already have exacting standards covering their broadcasts. LOL. The ABC promoted the anti-Israel marches, and deliberately ignored obvious links to Hamas and other Islamic hate groups, like the one who were down at Sydney chanting where's the Jews. But if any protest had even a whiff of criticism of Islam, they were basically painted as Nazis and the ABC did exposes on the alleged links and warned readers not to attend. The ABC has been fuelling the hatred of Jews that lead to the massacre. Our tax dollars are funding the erosion of the most basic human rights in Australia, including the right to life and liberty. Biased narrative as usual. The ABC was recently chastised for sacking Muslim journalist Anoinette Lattouf: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-29/antoinette-lattouf-sacking-exposed-power-of-lobbying-on-media/105463398 ..governments, militaries, and lobby groups try to stop the media telling stories, and I wondered if news audiences would like major media outlets to talk about it more: "They might be shocked to learn about the orchestrated bullying that goes on, which is designed to discourage editors and journalists from reporting on certain topics and framing stories in certain ways, even speaking to certain people," the piece said. "Would it improve media literacy if the media wrote about these issues openly and regularly?" Then, three days later, we heard relevant news. On Wednesday, the Federal Court ruled that the ABC had unlawfully sacked journalist Antoinette Lattouf, in December 2023, for reasons including that she held political opinions opposing the Israeli military campaign in Gaza. Oh ... and as to your concerns re protection of the right to life and liberty: the latter includes freedom from entrenched systemic disadvantge and macro-economic dysfunction which is locking an entire generation out of home owner-ship in Oz.    The ABC won't touch the issue.  It is not biased to point out the ABC's bias. The court case does not change any of the facts about what the ABC has been publishing.

FD on bias.....

So says the blind RW ideologue, who can't recognize the ABC's pro Israel bias, which a judge had to point out to them.   

Too funny.....

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 10:31am:

freediver wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:23am: LOL. The ABC promoted the anti-Israel marches, and deliberately ignored obvious links to Hamas and other Islamic hate groups, like the one who were down at Sydney chanting where's the Jews. But if any protest had even a whiff of criticism of Islam, they were basically painted as Nazis and the ABC did exposes on the alleged links and warned readers not to attend. The ABC has been fuelling the hatred of Jews that lead to the massacre. Our tax dollars are funding the erosion of the most basic human rights in Australia, including the right to life and liberty. The problem is that everyone is buying into the endless cycle of violence and murder in the Middle East - not just the ABC. Now it has come here too. Australia should be a sanctuary from a dangerous world, but we imported the trouble here.

Indeed we did, and the State of Israel is represented here by things like that Jewish Deputy lot etc.

Why do we need them and that Jewish Security outfit taxpayers are funding.  And if we are funding an Islamic equivalent, ban that as well.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 1:07pm:

If you aren't aware of what's going on right now, let me break it down for you. Jews worldwide are being hunted down and killed. It's only day three of Hanukkah, and already we've seen: 1. Jews murdered by a jihadi father-son duo in Australia that seriously wounded many people. 2. Students at BROWN were murdered in a class being taught by Rachel Friedberg, a Jewish professor who leads the school's Judaic Studies program. 3. A Jewish professor of nuclear physics at M.I.T. was murdered in his home today. 4. Orthodox Jews in New York were violently assaulted on the subway. 5. Violent Palestinian protestors disrupted a peaceful Hanukkah celebration in Amsterdam. Dozens were arrested after police had to physically surround families celebrating the holiday to protect them. 6. A Jewish family in California had their home hit by gunfire because they had Hanukkah decorations up. One of the criminals shouted, "Free Palestine." 7. An Islamic terrorist attack has been foiled in Poland at a Christmas market. 8. An Islamic terrorist attack has been foiled in Germany at a Christmas market. 9. A Palestinian terrorist attack was foiled in California. 10. France has cancelled its NYE celebrations because of the terrorist threat level. 11. Canada's Integrated Terrorism Assessment Centre has said that a terrorist attack in Canada is now "a realistic possibility." I've been studying terrorism for 20 years, and I've never seen things this bad. The West is under attack – full stop. The question now is, what the hell are we going to do about it? @DrCaseyBabb NOTE:- I launched this over Judeophobia to differentiate it from Anti-Semitism  and to give that equal billing with 'Islamophobia' (the fear of being killed by a random nut-bag) - there are a few Semitic groups.... and I wanted the focus to be on Judaism alone.

While Jews outside the State of Israel residing in other Countries flaunt insignia of the State of Israel and identify with it, nut cases will fail to see any distinction between them as representatives and supporters of that rogue State, and "Semitism" or your new fangled word.

Israel is not a Terrorist nation.
That's why.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 1:07pm:

If you aren't aware of what's going on right now, let me break it down for you.

Oh no - another biased RW ideologue who can't recognize bias if it bit him on the a**e.



Quote:

who Jews worldwide are being hunted down and killed. It's only day three of Hanukkah, and already we've seen: 1. Jews murdered by a jihadi father-son duo in Australia that seriously wounded many people. 2. Students at BROWN were murdered in a class being taught by Rachel Friedberg, a Jewish professor who leads the school's Judaic Studies program. 3. A Jewish professor of nuclear physics at M.I.T. was murdered in his home today. 4. Orthodox Jews in New York were violently assaulted on the subway. 5. Violent Palestinian protestors disrupted a peaceful Hanukkah celebration in Amsterdam. Dozens were arrested after police had to physically surround families celebrating the holiday to protect them. 6. A Jewish family in California had their home hit by gunfire because they had Hanukkah decorations up. One of the criminals shouted, "Free Palestine." 7. An Islamic terrorist attack has been foiled in Poland at a Christmas market. 8. An Islamic terrorist attack has been foiled in Germany at a Christmas market. 9. A Palestinian terrorist attack was foiled in California. 10. France has cancelled its NYE celebrations because of the terrorist threat level. 11. Canada's Integrated Terrorism Assessment Centre has said that a terrorist attack in Canada is now "a realistic possibility." I've been studying terrorism for 20 years, and I've never seen things this bad. The West is under attack – full stop. The question now is, what the hell are we going to do about it? @DrCaseyBabb

Well, the very 1st thing Babb should do is demand Netanyahu stop hindering the implementation of UN res 181, NOW. Even Trump is ready to go (maybe...).


Quote:

NOTE:- I launched this over Judeophobia to differentiate it from Anti-Semitism  and to give that equal billing with 'Islamophobia' (the fear of being killed by a random nut-bag) - there are a few Semitic groups.... and I wanted the focus to be on Judaism alone.

Judaism is based on OT scripture relating to a 'jealous'   bronze age 'god' (Jahweh).

Much of it affronts the UN UDHR, and modern international law.

Hence my 'Judeophobia'.   

The great tragedy for world history is the Prophet chose the OT as his exemplar  of the 'One True God', from whom (in his understanding) the Jews had separated, resulting in Israel's destruction long berfore Islam appeared; hence the Jews in his time were regarded as 'Infidels" in Islam.   

Jasin wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 2:27pm:

Israel is not a Terrorist nation. That's why.

Nor is Putin a terrorist. He lights candles and prays.

chimera wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 3:55pm:

Jasin wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 2:27pm: Israel is not a Terrorist nation. That's why. Nor is Putin a terrorist. He lights candles and prays.

Your error: Putin IS a terrorist, ie, an employer of war to settle disputes. Like Netanyahu and Hamas leaders. 

That's why all three (Hamas as one) are wanted by the ICC...

freediver wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 12:22pm:

It is not biased to point out the ABC's bias..

Here we go:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-16/video-shows-bondi-beach-shooting-gunman-preaching-islam-to-teens/106145626

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 4:01pm:

Your error: Putin IS a terrorist,

Ah I see. You are literal-minded and uncomprehending.
Thats's Ok.

chimera wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 4:58pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 4:01pm: Your error: Putin IS a terrorist, Ah I see. You are literal-minded and uncomprehending. Thats's Ok.

No, I was 'going with the flow'  with your usual giberrish.

Ironic,  you didn't see it....

gibberish
giBBerish

chimera wrote on Dec 21^st, 2025 at 2:47pm:

gibberish giBBerish

Ah... so, I was 'going with the flow'  with your usual gibberish.

Ironic,  you didn't see it....

The UN attempted to ...... oh never mind; your rational  mind is crippled by that pesky reptilian brain at the back of all human skulls, hence your  belief that war is the 'realistic'  solution to solve ideological disputes.

In the age of MAD no less.

Off to the front-line's mincing machine with you,  while the rest of us hope the war doesn't turn  nuclear...

That voice you hear... do you give it a name and talk to it?

chimera wrote on Dec 21^st, 2025 at 4:42pm:

That voice you hear... do you give it a name and talk to it?

No.

Actually, I'm listening to Handel's Messiah...

It's your Neanderthal  instincts which are the clear and present danger to the entire world.

Deplorable.

Of course, you're hostile to the Messiah.
Neanderthals.
Reptilians.
UN Charter.
Money supply M3 as impetus for inflation.
Opinions (resembling your own) as clear and present danger to the entire world.
Humour.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 2:10pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 12:22pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:46am: freediver wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:23am: Quote: The ABC and SBS already have exacting standards covering their broadcasts. LOL. The ABC promoted the anti-Israel marches, and deliberately ignored obvious links to Hamas and other Islamic hate groups, like the one who were down at Sydney chanting where's the Jews. But if any protest had even a whiff of criticism of Islam, they were basically painted as Nazis and the ABC did exposes on the alleged links and warned readers not to attend. The ABC has been fuelling the hatred of Jews that lead to the massacre. Our tax dollars are funding the erosion of the most basic human rights in Australia, including the right to life and liberty. Biased narrative as usual. The ABC was recently chastised for sacking Muslim journalist Anoinette Lattouf: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-29/antoinette-lattouf-sacking-exposed-power-of-lobbying-on-media/105463398 ..governments, militaries, and lobby groups try to stop the media telling stories, and I wondered if news audiences would like major media outlets to talk about it more: "They might be shocked to learn about the orchestrated bullying that goes on, which is designed to discourage editors and journalists from reporting on certain topics and framing stories in certain ways, even speaking to certain people," the piece said. "Would it improve media literacy if the media wrote about these issues openly and regularly?" Then, three days later, we heard relevant news. On Wednesday, the Federal Court ruled that the ABC had unlawfully sacked journalist Antoinette Lattouf, in December 2023, for reasons including that she held political opinions opposing the Israeli military campaign in Gaza. Oh ... and as to your concerns re protection of the right to life and liberty: the latter includes freedom from entrenched systemic disadvantge and macro-economic dysfunction which is locking an entire generation out of home owner-ship in Oz.    The ABC won't touch the issue.  It is not biased to point out the ABC's bias. The court case does not change any of the facts about what the ABC has been publishing. FD on bias..... So says the blind RW ideologue, who can't recognize the ABC's pro Israel bias, which a judge had to point out to them.    Too funny.....

And so says a LW ideologue who spruiks much waffle & says nothing of value especially in regards to the ME.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 21^st, 2025 at 4:10pm:

chimera wrote on Dec 21st, 2025 at 2:47pm: gibberish giBBerish Ah... so, I was 'going with the flow'  with your usual gibberish. Ironic,  you didn't see it.... The UN attempted to ...... oh never mind; your rational  mind is crippled by that pesky reptilian brain at the back of all human skulls, hence your  belief that war is the 'realistic'  solution to solve ideological disputes. In the age of MAD no less. Off to the front-line's mincing machine with you,  while the rest of us hope the war doesn't turn  nuclear...

And yet you all hate on the Trump of trumps for bringing Hamas to the negotiating table - they're lying, of course, but still - without expending a single US trooper or airman or sailor.... and now for bombing the assholes in Syria who we all *wink, wink* know are a huge part of the problem and are needed so we can hav ISIS brides developed to add to our rich and turbulent cultural mix.... again with only the expenditure of silver bullets ad a bit of old iron lying around...

I believe you'll find that war is A way of resolving.... but not THE only way.  Stop being so hysterical... you're sounding like a sheila.

He who prefers peace must prepare for war....

chimera wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 10:35am:

All media links with news could be banned for over 16 year olds. Ozpol will be shut down. Bobby will shut up.

Better still you could.  ::)