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Buckle Up, Friends: DOJ Opens New 2A Division,
Promises “A Lot More Action” to Safeguard Gun Rights!



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Monday, December 15, 2025 In a landmark accomplishment in furtherance of President Donald J. Trump’s Executive Order on the Second Amendment, the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) has announced the creation of a new section under its Civil Rights Division - the first ever dedicated to protecting the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. The Second Amendment Section, headed by Acting Chief Andrew Darlington, listed the following as its purpose and objectives in “secur[ing] the natural firearm rights of law-abiding American citizens:” The mission of the 2nd Amendment Section is to ensure that law-abiding American citizens may responsibly possess, carry, and use firearms. The 2nd Amendment Section will work diligently to investigate law enforcement agencies that engage in a pattern or practice of infringing on law-abiding citizens’ 2nd Amendment rights, as well as be proactive in searching for litigation opportunities to secure such rights. The 2nd Amendment Section will also seek opportunities to advance a broad interpretation of the 2nd Amendment via statements of interest, motions to intervene, amicus briefs, and original lawsuits where applicable on behalf of Americans across the country. All attorneys within the 2nd Amendment Section will advocate with zeal on behalf of the United States of America in furtherance of all objectives as tasked. In a video, Assistant Attorney General Harmeet K. Dhillon, who leads the Civil Rights Division,  said she’s been working on making the Second Amendment Section a reality since she arrived at the DOJ, and her message was good news for America’s millions of gun owners. She began by affirming her belief that the Second Amendment is not a second-class right and that she’s “really excited about this [new section],” adding that, “For the first time, the DOJ Civil Rights Division and the DOJ at large will be protecting and advancing our citizens’ right to bear arms as part of our civil rights work.” The focus of upcoming enforcement actions will include addressing jurisdictions with “multi-thousand dollar costs for citizens to apply for concealed carry permits” and “other jurisdictions [] having unreasonably long delays.” Further, the assistant attorney general highlighted jurisdictions that “are outlawing guns that should be protected by the Second Amendment under the recent Supreme Court precedents.” Dhillon noted, “States cannot interfere with the right of law-abiding citizens to carry commonly-used firearms.” Dhillon concluded with a cheerful “[s]tay tuned, you’re going to see a lot more action from this Department of Justice to protect your Second Amendment rights.” In a separate interview for NEWSMAX, Assistant AG Dhillon also expressed her support for a national reciprocity law as a logical part of this general push for increased protection and recognition of gun rights. “[W]e really do need to have some national respect and reciprocity,” she said, mentioning how her own concealed carry permit for the District of Columbia doesn’t extend to the adjoining jurisdictions so “I have to go through paperwork to get that done and that’s a real pain.” She noted that “there’s so many other areas of the law in which this is required,” referring to a Glock pistol she brought with her from California that has, in the meantime, been outlawed by that state, “so this is kind of nonsense.” Predictably, gun control groups are less than thrilled with the invigorated defense of this civil right.........   ;D

Ah......the next 1,100+ days are going to be absolutely 'mind bending' to the pro-gun control ilk......

Can't wait to see them all twisting, screaming, & squirming!!!  ;D ;D ;D


God Bless The United States Constitution....God Bless AMERICA!

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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 1:50pm:

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Easier, now more than ever Bwian, & it'll never be goin' back....There are 29 States that have voted for, & secured, Permitless Concealed Carry -- soon to become 30, with more to follow!!! https://imgur.com/8HaR1LB.gif

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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 2:35pm:

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Bwian, the FBI estimates, because as you know gun owners don't register guns by law Stateside, they estimate there was 393 Million guns as of August, so going by that there will surely be well over 400 Million guns in American hands by February 2026.

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God Bless PRESIDENT TRUMP....God Bless AMERICA!

Panther wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 1:40pm:

Ah......the next 1,100+ days are going to be absolutely 'mind bending' to the pro-gun control ilk...... Can't wait to see them all twisting, screaming, & squirming!!!

You didn't have to put it that way. Usually a bullet wound is not so painful.

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That's a relief, Panther, but I'm curious. What do you have to say about the rights of convicted felons to bear arms?

Constitutionally, I mean.

Thoughts?

It will be great when Washington DC laws against guns are overturned. The Reps can smile at the audience who have hands inside their coats. Big Don will meet the Press with its full armament.

FD wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 4:36pm:

That's a relief, Panther, but I'm curious. What do you have to say about the rights of convicted felons to bear arms? Constitutionally, I mean. Thoughts?

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Constitutionally, I mean.

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18 U.S.C. § 922(g), is a U.S. federal law making it illegal for certain "prohibited persons"—like convicted felons, fugitives, those addicted to controlled substances, or dishonorably discharged veterans—to ship, transport, possess, or receive firearms or ammunition. It's a key part of federal firearm law, focusing on who can have guns, establishing categories of people banned from gun ownership, primarily due to past criminal history, mental health issues, or other serious status violations.

Karnal, that's a law written & created by the US Congress.....it is not a Constitutional restriction or specification of the US Constitution itself.

Personally, if a felon committed heinous crimes against a fellow citizen or citizens of the United States, again, personally I wouldn't feel that restoring their 2A Rights should ever come to pass.....even if they have become sincerely contrite & served out their criminal sentence/punishment. 

That said, if contrite, done their sentenced time or paid full restitution, & depending on the gravity of their crime(s), if they are determined to be no longer a threat to the general public by the authorities, I see absolutely no reason why they shouldn't have all their 2A Rights restored in full.  https://i.imgur.com/oAMLT1C.gif

Panther wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:14pm:

Personally, if a felon committed heinous crimes against a fellow citizen or citizens of the United States, again, personally I wouldn't feel that restoring their 2A Rights should ever come to pass.

Traitor. Turncoat. Un-American.

Trump's recent Speech was a great one.
Such a good speaker.
Biden on the other hand, let alone word salad Harris... ;D

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 2:35pm:

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That's the answer to everything and anything at the NRA.

Jasin wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 8:13pm:

Trump's recent Speech was a great one. Such a good speaker. Biden on the other hand, let alone word salad Harris... ;D

You have got to be kidding! Trump reminds me of many of the dementia patients I used to care for in my past career as a nurse in aged care dementia wards. Just incoherent nonsense without a shred of truth to it. He blames Biden for everything, yet he's been President for almost a year and has had a huge (bad) impact on the US economy since. He still thinks he's decreased drug prices by hundreds or thousands of percent, which is a mathematical impossibility. He's slowly but surely losing his grip on reality and becoming more unhinged by the day.

Panther wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:14pm:

FD wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 4:36pm: That's a relief, Panther, but I'm curious. What do you have to say about the rights of convicted felons to bear arms? Constitutionally, I mean. Thoughts? Quote: Constitutionally, I mean. [quote]18 U.S.C. § 922(g), is a U.S. federal law making it illegal for certain "prohibited persons"—like convicted felons, fugitives, those addicted to controlled substances, or dishonorably discharged veterans—to ship, transport, possess, or receive firearms or ammunition. It's a key part of federal firearm law, focusing on who can have guns, establishing categories of people banned from gun ownership, primarily due to past criminal history, mental health issues, or other serious status violations.

Karnal, that's a law written & created by the US Congress.....it is not a Constitutional restriction or specification of the US Constitution itself.

Personally, if a felon committed heinous crimes against a fellow citizen or citizens of the United States, again, personally I wouldn't feel that restoring their 2A Rights should ever come to pass.....even if they have become sincerely contrite & served out their criminal sentence/punishment. 

That said, if contrite, done their sentenced time or paid full restitution, & depending on the gravity of their crime(s), if they are determined to be no longer a threat to the general public by the authorities, I see absolutely no reason why they shouldn't have all their 2A Rights restored in full.  https://i.imgur.com/oAMLT1C.gif


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Thanks, Panther.

So if your DL, a convicted felon, was to express contrition and found to be no longer a threat to the general public by the authorities in New York, you'd support him having his 2A Rights restored, would you?

What if he asserted that he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and his base would continue to worship him?

Would you support someone like that having their 2A Rights restored?

FD wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 5:32pm:

Panther wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 7:14pm: FD wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 4:36pm: That's a relief, Panther, but I'm curious. What do you have to say about the rights of convicted felons to bear arms? Constitutionally, I mean. Thoughts? Quote: Constitutionally, I mean. [quote]18 U.S.C. § 922(g), is a U.S. federal law making it illegal for certain "prohibited persons"—like convicted felons, fugitives, those addicted to controlled substances, or dishonorably discharged veterans—to ship, transport, possess, or receive firearms or ammunition. It's a key part of federal firearm law, focusing on who can have guns, establishing categories of people banned from gun ownership, primarily due to past criminal history, mental health issues, or other serious status violations. Karnal, that's a law written & created by the US Congress.....it is not a Constitutional restriction or specification of the US Constitution itself. Personally, if a felon committed heinous crimes against a fellow citizen or citizens of the United States, again, personally I wouldn't feel that restoring their 2A Rights should ever come to pass.....even if they have become sincerely contrite & served out their criminal sentence/punishment.  That said, if contrite, done their sentenced time or paid full restitution, & depending on the gravity of their crime(s), if they are determined to be no longer a threat to the general public by the authorities, I see absolutely no reason why they shouldn't have all their 2A Rights restored in full.  https://i.imgur.com/oAMLT1C.gif

Thanks, Panther.

So if your DL, a convicted felon, was to express contrition and found to be no longer a threat to the general public by the authorities in New York, you'd support him having his 2A Rights restored, would you?

What if he asserted that he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and his base would continue to worship him?

Would you support someone like that having their 2A Rights restored? [/quote]

Without question. President Trump was convicted of 34 counts of falsifying some business records.....victimless crimes.

You're out of line, soldier.  You are contrary to the 2nd Amendment.

(In US prisons, inmates retain fundamental constitutional rights, including protection from cruel and unusual punishment (8th Amendment), due process, free exercise of religion, and freedom from discrimination).

chimera wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 6:22pm:

You're out of line, soldier.  You are contrary to the 2nd Amendment.

....the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Panther wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 6:14pm:

FD wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 5:32pm: Panther wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 7:14pm: FD wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 4:36pm: That's a relief, Panther, but I'm curious. What do you have to say about the rights of convicted felons to bear arms? Constitutionally, I mean. Thoughts? Quote: Constitutionally, I mean. [quote]18 U.S.C. § 922(g), is a U.S. federal law making it illegal for certain "prohibited persons"—like convicted felons, fugitives, those addicted to controlled substances, or dishonorably discharged veterans—to ship, transport, possess, or receive firearms or ammunition. It's a key part of federal firearm law, focusing on who can have guns, establishing categories of people banned from gun ownership, primarily due to past criminal history, mental health issues, or other serious status violations. Karnal, that's a law written & created by the US Congress.....it is not a Constitutional restriction or specification of the US Constitution itself. Personally, if a felon committed heinous crimes against a fellow citizen or citizens of the United States, again, personally I wouldn't feel that restoring their 2A Rights should ever come to pass.....even if they have become sincerely contrite & served out their criminal sentence/punishment.  That said, if contrite, done their sentenced time or paid full restitution, & depending on the gravity of their crime(s), if they are determined to be no longer a threat to the general public by the authorities, I see absolutely no reason why they shouldn't have all their 2A Rights restored in full.  https://i.imgur.com/oAMLT1C.gif Thanks, Panther. So if your DL, a convicted felon, was to express contrition and found to be no longer a threat to the general public by the authorities in New York, you'd support him having his 2A Rights restored, would you? What if he asserted that he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and his base would continue to worship him? Would you support someone like that having their 2A Rights restored?

Without question. President Trump was convicted of 34 counts of falsifying some business records.....victimless crimes.
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Individuals convicted of a felony in New York lose their right to possess a firearm. State law prohibits gun licenses from being granted to anyone who has ever been convicted of a felony or other serious offense. If a person with a gun license is convicted of a felony, their firearms license will be revoked.

Under New York law, those with felony convictions for violent crimes or Class A1 felonies including possession of stolen property, stalking, prostitution offenses and endangering the welfare of a child are prohibited from receiving a firearm license. Restoration of gun rights is not available.

However, if someone is convicted of a lower-level, nonviolent state felony, they may be able to restore their firearm privileges by obtaining a Certificate of Relief from Disabilities or a Certificate of Good Conduct, issued by the New York State Board of Parole. As each case is unique, the only way to know which certificate restores state and federal firearm rights is to consult an attorney knowledgeable on the subject.

Your DL forfeited his 2A Rights when he chose to defraud his fellow citizens of their right to a free and fair election and let his lawyer Mike take the rap - a three year sentence for election fraud.

So, would you encourage your DL to apply for a Certificate of Relief from Disabilities or a Certificate of Good Conduct, issued by the New York State Board of Parole?

This is the only way he can legally have his 2A Rights restored, as a 34 count felon, convicted by a jury of his peers under the laws of the state of New York.

Do you concur?

FD wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 5:32pm:

if a felon committed heinous crimes against a fellow citizen or citizens of the United States, again, personally I wouldn't feel that restoring their 2A Rights should ever come to pass

'the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed'.

You are issued with an infringement notice.

(Panther runs to Humvee and roars off)

chimera wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 6:22pm:

You're out of line, soldier.  You are contrary to the 2nd Amendment. (In US prisons, inmates retain fundamental constitutional rights, including protection from cruel and unusual punishment (8th Amendment), due process, free exercise of religion, and freedom from discrimination).

Panther has already covered this article, Chimera  A felon loses his 2A Rights. Panther does not believe they should ever be restored.


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Personally, if a felon committed heinous crimes against a fellow citizen or citizens of the United States, again, personally I wouldn't feel that restoring their 2A Rights should ever come to pass.....even if they have become sincerely contrite & served out their criminal sentence/punishment.

However, for those offenders who's crimes are of a lessor nature - submitting false business statements, omitting to disclose campaign funds and defrauding his fellow citizens of their right to a free and fair election as Panther's president's criminal record shows - Panther contends that such felons should benefit from a review of their 2A Rights at a suitable time, after a period of remorse and with contrition expressed and demonstrated to the accountable authority, in this case the state of New York.

It goes without saying that Panther has no opinion on civil counts, including the torts of bank fraud, charity fraud, defamation and sexual abuse, wrongs of which Panther's prez has been proven legally liable for in over three courts of law, not including appeals, by juries of his president's peers.

It also goes without saying that Panther has no opinion on his 47th president's indictment for false statements and representations, conspiracy to obstruct justice and willful retention of national defense information, a breach of the Espionage Act. Nor does he have a comment on his DL's indictment for conspiring to overturn an election and breaches covered by, but not limited to, the Insurrection Act.

Panther understands, however, that his president's indictment for election racketeering in Georgia prohibits him from carrying, possessing or transporting a firearm under federal law. Panther's prez is still under arrest in the state of Georgia and, if convicted, faces a sentence of five to twenty years.

Panther will never support such a felon, having proven to have committed heinous crimes against a fellow citizen or citizens of the United States, having the right to bear arms, under the laws of his much loved United States of America, one nation under God.

Also, Panther would never support a political candidate indicted for a crime/crimes, having been prosecuted under reasonable cause and arraigned by a court or courts of law. Hell, Panther said, would have to freeze over first. He will never support an indicted suspect.

I trust this puts the matter to rest.

God bless the USA.

FD wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 7:33pm:

A felon loses his 2A Rights. Panther does not believe they should ever be restored.

Quite correct. He does, and he does.

Constitutionistically, a felon can't lose such a right.  Crims like prisoner DJ Trump, 45 & 47, $6billion, can bear arms in prison, Mar a Lago or the Ball Room.  He has freedom of religion and hand guns.

Panther wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 6:30pm:

chimera wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 6:22pm: You're out of line, soldier.  You are contrary to the 2nd Amendment. ....the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Why do you only quote half the 2nd Amendment, Panther?  It should read: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 7:43pm:

A well regulated Militia,

The Founding Fathers required the Union to have well-regulated prisons, with felons keeping order using rifles, mortar and star spangled rockets.

The Revolution used large 8-13 inch siege mortars (like the French 10-inch) for fortifications and smaller "hand mortars" used by Hessians for launching grenades.

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 7:43pm:

Panther wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 6:30pm: chimera wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 6:22pm: You're out of line, soldier.  You are contrary to the 2nd Amendment. ....the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. Why do you only quote half the 2nd Amendment, Panther?  It should read: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

You're correct.....

Why? Simply because Americans are not interested in anything except the actual Right & how the Constitution was meant to restrain government, not 'grant' anything.....it was meant to be a direct order to the government.

chimera wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 7:42pm:

FD wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:33pm:   A felon loses his 2A Rights. Panther does not believe they should ever be restored. Quite correct. He does, and he does. Constitutionistically, a felon can't lose such a right.  Crims like prisoner DJ Trump, 45 & 47, $6billion, can bear arms in prison, Mar a Lago or the Ball Room.  He has freedom of religion and hand guns.

In prison, the 47th prez has the right to Secret Service protection, which he retains after he leaves Panther's much-loved White House, now in a state of partial demolition.

Felons are excellent at restraining government and prison guards with automatic pistols, with no infringement by Panther.

(The primary concern highlighted in research is prohibited individuals (including potentially incarcerated individuals) purchasing ammo. It's hoped that all restrictions can be lifted)

Panther wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 7:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:43pm: Panther wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 6:30pm: chimera wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 6:22pm: You're out of line, soldier.  You are contrary to the 2nd Amendment. ....the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. Why do you only quote half the 2nd Amendment, Panther?  It should read: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) You're correct..... Why? Simply because Americans are not interested in anything except the actual Right & how the Constitution was meant to restrain government, not 'grant' anything.....it was meant to be a direct order to the government.

Unless the government wishes to arrest and deport your fellow citizens, in which case you may choose to err on the side of caution, granting said government the privilege to suspend your much-loved Constitution via executive order, made by your 47th prez.

God bless the USA.

Panther wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 7:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:43pm: Panther wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 6:30pm: chimera wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 6:22pm: You're out of line, soldier.  You are contrary to the 2nd Amendment. ....the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. Why do you only quote half the 2nd Amendment, Panther?  It should read: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) You're correct..... Why? Simply because Americans are not interested in anything except the actual Right & how the Constitution was meant to restrain government, not 'grant' anything.....it was meant to be a direct order to the government.

Just shows how stupid the Americans are.  You must read and act on the full clause of the constitution for it to have any validity.  Only acting on half of it shows how shallow your understanding of the matter is.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...::) ::)

FD wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 7:53pm:

[quote author=chimera link=1766029212/23#23 date=1766137369][quote author=Karnal link=1766029212/22#22 date=1766136782]  A felon loses his 2A Rights. Panther does not believe they should ever be restored.

An American, accused, tried, & convicted of most heinous crimes committed against their fellow Americans.....their 2 Amendment Right to keep & bear arms should never be restored.

Some minor felonies for victimless crimes are different.

Lifetime bans from the Right to keep & bear firearms can be reviewed, & if it is determined they are totally rehabilitated their 2A Rights may be restored....on a case by case basis....not in bulk.

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 8:18pm:

Panther wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:50pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:43pm: Panther wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 6:30pm: chimera wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 6:22pm: You're out of line, soldier.  You are contrary to the 2nd Amendment. ....the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. Why do you only quote half the 2nd Amendment, Panther?  It should read: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) You're correct..... Why? Simply because Americans are not interested in anything except the actual Right & how the Constitution was meant to restrain government, not 'grant' anything.....it was meant to be a direct order to the government. Just shows how stupid the Americans are.  You must read and act on the full clause of the constitution for it to have any validity.  Only acting on half of it shows how shallow your understanding of the matter is.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...::) ::)

So says the ignorant, inbred, non-American Queen Bwian.....who has no Rights except those permitted/licensed or 'granted' to him by her superiors....their slave master royalist governments.  :D ;D ;D ;D :D

Panther wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 9:03pm:

FD wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:53pm: [quote author=chimera link=1766029212/23#23 date=1766137369][quote author=Karnal link=1766029212/22#22 date=1766136782]  A felon loses his 2A Rights. Panther does not believe they should ever be restored. An American, accused, tried, & convicted of most heinous crimes committed against their fellow Americans.....their 2 Amendment Right to keep & bear arms should never be restored. Some minor felonies for victimless crimes are different. Lifetime bans from the Right to keep & bear firearms can be reviewed, & if it is determined they are totally rehabilitated their 2A Rights may be restored....on a case by case basis....not in bulk.

Right. So how's your DL going to get his guns back in New York?

And because he's still indicted in Georgia, how's he going to get them back nationwide?

We're discussing your beloved country's own gun laws here. Why doesn't your own prez have the right to bear arms?

My God, man, if your own prez...

Please explain?

Panther wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 9:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 8:18pm: Panther wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:50pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:43pm: Panther wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 6:30pm: chimera wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 6:22pm: You're out of line, soldier.  You are contrary to the 2nd Amendment. ....the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. Why do you only quote half the 2nd Amendment, Panther?  It should read: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) You're correct..... Why? Simply because Americans are not interested in anything except the actual Right & how the Constitution was meant to restrain government, not 'grant' anything.....it was meant to be a direct order to the government. Just shows how stupid the Americans are.  You must read and act on the full clause of the constitution for it to have any validity.  Only acting on half of it shows how shallow your understanding of the matter is.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...::) ::) So says the ignorant, inbred, non-American Queen Bwian.....who has no Rights except those permitted/licensed or 'granted' to him by her superiors....their slave master royalist governments.  :D ;D ;D ;D :D

I am not a, "Queen", I am not female, Panther.  I have rights.  I live in a society more free than the US.  I note that despite all your discouragement you live here too, without your beloved guns.  Funny that, hey, Panther?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 10:25pm:

Panther wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 9:18pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 8:18pm: Panther wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:50pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:43pm: Panther wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 6:30pm: chimera wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 6:22pm: You're out of line, soldier.  You are contrary to the 2nd Amendment. ....the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. Why do you only quote half the 2nd Amendment, Panther?  It should read: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) You're correct..... Why? Simply because Americans are not interested in anything except the actual Right & how the Constitution was meant to restrain government, not 'grant' anything.....it was meant to be a direct order to the government. Just shows how stupid the Americans are.  You must read and act on the full clause of the constitution for it to have any validity.  Only acting on half of it shows how shallow your understanding of the matter is.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...::) ::) So says the ignorant, inbred, non-American Queen Bwian.....who has no Rights except those permitted/licensed or 'granted' to him by her superiors....their slave master royalist governments.  :D ;D ;D ;D :D I am not a, "Queen", I am not female, Panther.  I have rights.  I live in a society more free than the US.  I note that despite all your discouragement you live here too, without your beloved guns.  Funny that, hey, Panther?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...::) ::)

Panther has no right to bear arms in a reasonable country, it is so.

So let's hear his take on his own beloved 47th, who has no such rights himself.

Panther?

Tsk tsk tsk, thanks.

Brian is a female

Jasin wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 10:57pm:

Brian is a female

Up for questions, are we?

Tsk tsk tsk.

Panther wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 7:50pm:

Simply because Americans are not interested in anything except the actual Right & how the Constitution was meant to restrain government, not 'grant' anything.....it was meant to be a direct order to the government.

You use your gun in a militia to restrain the government?  The gun deaths are from shooting US servicemen?
Guns are a right but not a grant? So 2A is not the basis for personal gun use?
The order to not infringe guns means felons are to be infringed if they restrain government?  So no personal right?
You support Dems using guns to restrain Trump?

chimera wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 7:12am:

Panther wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:50pm: Simply because Americans are not interested in anything except the actual Right & how the Constitution was meant to restrain government, not 'grant' anything.....it was meant to be a direct order to the government. You use your gun in a militia to restrain the government?  The gun deaths are from shooting US servicemen? Guns are a right but not a grant? So 2A is not the basis for personal gun use? The order to not infringe guns means felons are to be infringed if they restrain government?  So no personal right? You support Dems using guns to restrain Trump?

True, it does raise a most pertinent question, no?

What's 47 doing starting up a 2A division when said rights are denied to himself?

It would be as if Panther used public funds to start up a trans surgery at his local school.

FD wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 9:38pm:

Panther wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 9:03pm: FD wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:53pm: chimera wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:42pm: [quote author=Karnal link=1766029212/22#22 date=1766136782]  A felon loses his 2A Rights. Panther does not believe they should ever be restored. An American, accused, tried, & convicted of most heinous crimes committed against their fellow Americans.....their 2 Amendment Right to keep & bear arms should never be restored. Some minor felonies for victimless crimes are different. Lifetime bans from the Right to keep & bear firearms can be reviewed, & if it is determined they are totally rehabilitated their 2A Rights may be restored....on a case by case basis....not in bulk. Right. So how's your DL going to get his guns back in New York? And because he's still indicted in Georgia, how's he going to get them back nationwide? We're discussing your beloved country's own gun laws here. Why doesn't your own prez have the right to bear arms? My God, man, if your own prez... Please explain? [quote] President Trump has lost his right to keep and bear arms due to his felony convictions. Under federal law, individuals convicted of crimes punishable by more than one year of imprisonment are prohibited from possessing firearms. Trump's convictions for falsifying business records fall into this category, making him a prohibited person under 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1). Legal Context The law that restricts firearm possession for felons has been criticized for being overly broad. It applies to a wide range of non-violent offenses, which means many individuals, including Trump, lose their Second Amendment rights despite not posing a threat of violence. This has raised concerns about fairness and the implications for civil liberties. Restoration of Rights Currently, there is a movement within the Trump administration to restore firearm rights to certain convicted felons. The Department of Justice is working on reviving a process that would allow individuals to petition for the restoration of their gun rights. However, this process is still in development and would require case-by-case evaluations by the Attorney General [Pam Bondi]. https://imgur.com/GanwveZ.gif In summary, due to his felony convictions, President Trump is legally barred from possessing firearms, but there are ongoing discussions about potentially restoring these rights in the near future. bestlawyers.com       U.S. Department of Justice

Since 2017 President Trump has been under the constant protection of his fully armed US Secret Service, & he will continue to be so protected for life.

So, IMHO, there isn't much haste to having his Individual Right to Keep & Bear Arms restored, but knowing Trump, he will make it so, with abundant fanfare, sooner rather than later.  ;)

As an afterthought, if he truly wanted to carry a concealed firearm, who out there would be able to take it from him? The US Secret Service would be on them like white on rice!! https://imgur.com/GanwveZ.gif https://imgur.com/GanwveZ.gif https://imgur.com/GanwveZ.gif


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Well, there we have it. Bullets beat brains.  Forget the Constitution, Georgia's jail cell, 2A or Trump's senility.
Locked and loaded. 400 million magazines can't be wrong.

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Second Amendment Roundup:
Supreme Court to decide status of unlawful drug users.

ATF’s expansive regulation conflicts with U.S. position that only habitual users are disarmed.

Source:      REASON      
Quote:

The Supreme Court has granted cert in U.S. v. Hemani, which concerns the constitutionality of 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(3), which forbids a person from possessing a firearm in or affecting commerce if he "is an unlawful user of … any controlled substance."  The United States just filed its opening brief, stating: "At issue here is Section 922(g)(3)'s disarmament of a defined class of people—habitual users of controlled substances, i.e., those who regularly and unlawfully use drugs that are subject to the Controlled Substances Act, 21 U.S.C. 801 et seq. That restriction is temporary and limited: a person regains his ability to possess arms as soon as he stops habitually using drugs.".....(read more) REASON

Lets see what the SCOTUS sees in regarding this particular instance of the Right to Keep & Bear Arms.... https://imgur.com/SvzDchb.gif

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Drugs are OK for militia facing the Marines and US Space Force. Ice probably helped the Boys fight like hell in the enemy Capitol.

Panther wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 10:18am:

FD wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 9:38pm: Panther wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 9:03pm: FD wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:53pm: chimera wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:42pm: [quote author=Karnal link=1766029212/22#22 date=1766136782]  A felon loses his 2A Rights. Panther does not believe they should ever be restored. An American, accused, tried, & convicted of most heinous crimes committed against their fellow Americans.....their 2 Amendment Right to keep & bear arms should never be restored. Some minor felonies for victimless crimes are different. Lifetime bans from the Right to keep & bear firearms can be reviewed, & if it is determined they are totally rehabilitated their 2A Rights may be restored....on a case by case basis....not in bulk. Right. So how's your DL going to get his guns back in New York? And because he's still indicted in Georgia, how's he going to get them back nationwide? We're discussing your beloved country's own gun laws here. Why doesn't your own prez have the right to bear arms? My God, man, if your own prez... Please explain? [quote] President Trump has lost his right to keep and bear arms due to his felony convictions. Under federal law, individuals convicted of crimes punishable by more than one year of imprisonment are prohibited from possessing firearms. Trump's convictions for falsifying business records fall into this category, making him a prohibited person under 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1). Legal Context The law that restricts firearm possession for felons has been criticized for being overly broad. It applies to a wide range of non-violent offenses, which means many individuals, including Trump, lose their Second Amendment rights despite not posing a threat of violence. This has raised concerns about fairness and the implications for civil liberties. Restoration of Rights Currently, there is a movement within the Trump administration to restore firearm rights to certain convicted felons. The Department of Justice is working on reviving a process that would allow individuals to petition for the restoration of their gun rights. However, this process is still in development and would require case-by-case evaluations by the Attorney General [Pam Bondi]. https://imgur.com/GanwveZ.gif In summary, due to his felony convictions, President Trump is legally barred from possessing firearms, but there are ongoing discussions about potentially restoring these rights in the near future. bestlawyers.com       U.S. Department of Justice Since 2017 President Trump has been under the constant protection of his fully armed US Secret Service, & he will continue to be so protected for life. So, IMHO, there isn't much haste to having his Individual Right to Keep & Bear Arms restored, but knowing Trump, he will make it so, with abundant fanfare, sooner rather than later.  ;) As an afterthought, if he truly wanted to carry a concealed firearm, who out there would be able to take it from him? The US Secret Service would be on them like white on rice!! https://imgur.com/GanwveZ.gif https://imgur.com/GanwveZ.gif https://imgur.com/GanwveZ.gif .

When you say knowing Trump, he will make it so, what exactly do you mean?

To keep you changing the topic, shifting the goalposts or playing whatabout-that, we'll need a multiple choice. Kindly select a response, A to C. You, Panther, are suggesting your DL will:

a) Submit a request to the NY Department of Parole, express contrition for his 34 felony crimes and demonstrate that he presents no further risk of hate, violence or threat to the safety of your fellow citizens.

b) Report to Georgia to stand trial for his conspiracy to overthrow the 2020 election; and be found not guilty on all charges, despite uncontested evidence of him demanding the Georgia Secretary of State find him 11,800 votes, which is one more than what he needs.

c) Break the law by carrying a concealed firearm - the same crime you demanded Hunter Biden stand trial for.

Kindly select your answer. You may expand upon your response in the short-answer format, using a font, text colour and bordering, if preferred, of your own choice.

FD wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 3:05pm:

Panther wrote on Dec 20th, 2025 at 10:18am: FD wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 9:38pm: Panther wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 9:03pm: FD wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:53pm: chimera wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 7:42pm: [quote author=Karnal link=1766029212/22#22 date=1766136782]  A felon loses his 2A Rights. Panther does not believe they should ever be restored. ....................................... Right. So how's your DL going to get his guns back in New York? And because he's still indicted in Georgia, how's he going to get them back nationwide? We're discussing your beloved country's own gun laws here. Why doesn't your own prez have the right to bear arms? My God, man, if your own prez... Please explain? [quote] President Trump has lost his right to keep and bear arms due to his felony convictions. Under federal law, individuals convicted of crimes punishable by more than one year of imprisonment are prohibited from possessing firearms. Trump's convictions for falsifying business records fall into this category, making him a prohibited person under 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1). Legal Context The law that restricts firearm possession for felons has been criticized for being overly broad. It applies to a wide range of non-violent offenses, which means many individuals, including Trump, lose their Second Amendment rights despite not posing a threat of violence. This has raised concerns about fairness and the implications for civil liberties. Restoration of Rights Currently, there is a movement within the Trump administration to restore firearm rights to certain convicted felons. The Department of Justice is working on reviving a process that would allow individuals to petition for the restoration of their gun rights. However, this process is still in development and would require case-by-case evaluations by the Attorney General [Pam Bondi]. https://imgur.com/GanwveZ.gif In summary, due to his felony convictions, President Trump is legally barred from possessing firearms, but there are ongoing discussions about potentially restoring these rights in the near future. bestlawyers.com       U.S. Department of Justice Since 2017 President Trump has been under the constant protection of his fully armed US Secret Service, & he will continue to be so protected for life. So, IMHO, there isn't much haste to having his Individual Right to Keep & Bear Arms restored, but knowing Trump, he will make it so, with abundant fanfare, sooner rather than later.  ;) As an afterthought, if he truly wanted to carry a concealed firearm, who out there would be able to take it from him? The US Secret Service would be on them like white on rice!! https://imgur.com/GanwveZ.gif https://imgur.com/GanwveZ.gif https://imgur.com/GanwveZ.gif . When you say knowing Trump, he will make it so, what exactly do you mean? To keep you changing the topic, shifting the goalposts or playing whatabout-that, we'll need a multiple choice. Kindly select a response, A to C. You, Panther, are suggesting your DL will: a) Submit a request to the NY Department of Parole, express contrition for his 34 felony crimes and demonstrate that he presents no further risk of hate, violence or threat to the safety of your fellow citizens. b) Report to Georgia to stand trial for his conspiracy to overthrow the 2020 election; and be found not guilty on all charges, despite uncontested evidence of him demanding the Georgia Secretary of State find him 11,800 votes, which is one more than what he needs. c) Break the law by carrying a concealed firearm - the same crime you demanded Hunter Biden stand trial for. Kindly select your answer. You may expand upon your response in the short-answer format, using a font, text colour and bordering, if preferred, of your own choice.

A -  Unnecessary. The US Attorney General Pam Bondi can reinstate President Trump's Second Amendment Rights upon request because it's a Federal Law, therefore not a NYS issue, it's a Federal issue, handled within the DOJ under the US Attorney General's Authority.  ;)

B - The Georgia charges against Donald Trump have been dismissed as of November 26, 2025, following his election victory. This dismissal marked the end of the criminal case related to his alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia.  ;)

Read/See:  ibanet.org    ms.now


C - There is no way of knowing if he will be carrying, or has been carrying all along....but....Once the DOJ via AG Pam Bondi accepts his request for reinstatement of his 2A Rights in full, allowing President Trump to keep & bear firearms, your points/suggestions become summarily moot.  ;)


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chimera wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 11:54am:

Drugs are OK for militia facing the Marines and US Space Force. Ice probably helped the Boys fight like hell in the enemy Capitol.

Ah, but Hunter Biden was previously addicted to crack, do you recall? ? He was charged for omitting to tick the drug-addict box on his gun form. This crime was so egregious, Panther wanted him prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

It was a crime so heinous and despicable, Panther said, not even a presidential pardon would suffice.

Oh? We said. But the 46th prez pardoned Hunter under your beloved Constitution. There's his signature - there, there, and there.

Nonsense, Panther said. It's signed in Autopen.

Yes, we said, just like your DL's pardons for all his family and friends. The Autopen is used to sign copies.

So? Panther said. DL's were legal. The Autopen has been used by presidents going back to Thomas Jefferson, it's all perfectly legit and above board.

So what's the problem with Sleepy Joe's? We asked.

Maybe it's the ink, he said. It's illegal.

Are you sure? We said. Does your Constitution reference ink - or the stylus used? Which ink was used to pen your beloved Constitution?

Panther wasn't sure, but he had a right old hoot when his DL replaced the portrait of his 46th prez with an image of an autopen.

Anyhow, Hunter appeared to escape his heinous gun charge thanks to a last minute pardon by Dad. Phew, we said. That settles that. It doesn't matter what the Supreme Court decides about drug charges or 12A Rights after all.

Until the 47th prez decided to overturn Sleepy Joe's pardons by executive order. We quickly consulted with Panther, our residential Constitutional expert.

He's done, Panther said. 47 trumps 46. Whatever DL says goes.

Yes, we said, but whatabout your beloved Constitution?

Panther replied with a big photo of DL, chuckling. No further questions, he said.

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Panther wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 3:51pm:

[size=14][font=Georgia][i]A -  Unnecessary. The US Attorney General Pam Bondi can reinstate President Trump's Second Amendment Rights upon request because it's a Federal Law, therefore not a NYS issue, it's a Federal issue, handled within the DOJ under the US Attorney General's Authority.  ;) B - The Georgia charges against Donald Trump have been dismissed as of November 26, 2025, following his election victory. This dismissal marked the end of the criminal case related to his alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia.  ;) Read/See:  ibanet.org    ms.now C - There is no way of knowing if he will be carrying, or has been carrying all along....but....Once the DOJ via AG Pam Bondi accepts his request for reinstatement of his 2A Rights in full, allowing President Trump to keep & bear firearms

a) Pam Bondi has no jurisdiction in the state of New York. Your DL cannot legally be granted a license to bear arms there. We would have thought such an issue of state rights was fundamental to your very way of being, but alas, we have been proven wrong.

b) You have referenced a link to federal charges, but your argument stands. On November 26, 2025, Pete Skandalakis, the Executive Director of the Prosecuting Attorneys' Council of Georgia, filed a motion:


Quote:

There is no realistic prospect", he wrote, "that a sitting President will be compelled to appear in Georgia to stand trial on the allegations in this indictment", and by the end of Trump's second presidency in January 2029, "eight years will have elapsed since the phone call at issue [with Raffensperger]." At that point, the state would have to litigate the immunity issues — and succeed — before beginning a jury trial. He concluded that "bringing this case before a jury in 2029, 2030, or even 2031 would be nothing short of a remarkable feat", as it is difficult "to move appellate issues through the courts with any degree of speed.

c) Pam Bondi has no jurisdiction over state gun laws, particularly in New York and California, where your DL is still unlicensed and has not filed any appellate claims as per a). Your DL will become a standard citizen in 2029, and will be subject to federal law again, if he is not impeached in 2027, when he may become just another bare bottom in the showers of the Federal Bureau of Corrections.

This is as yet untested. Your DL is still under legal arrest in Georgia and convicted in New York. If you can prove he has had his 2A Rights restored after his state arrests and felony convictions, you are free to provide it.

To date, you have not.

Panther wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 1:40pm:

Ah......the next 1,100+ days are going to be absolutely 'mind bending' to the pro-gun control ilk...... Can't wait to see them all twisting, screaming, & squirming!!!

The Georgia convict will try to grin if everyone else gets more gun but not him. But winners, not losers, grin.

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Personally Karnal, I don't give a Royal Rats Ass. The choice is the President's to exercise........ It's his Right........ What he does or doesn't do in this matter is not for me to lose a moment of sleep over. 8-)

I celebrate the fact that my fellow Americans are fighting for their Rights across the US, & as time goes on their chances of success increases with friendly ears in the DOJ...It seems to be more of your concern, so you follow it up over the next 1,000+ days & keep us all up to date. ;)

More importantly hundreds upon hundreds of non-violent felons have petitioned the DOJ for reinstatement of their Second Amendment Rights to Keep & Bear Arms & more will most certainly succeed.

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Panther wrote on Dec 21^st, 2025 at 12:10pm:

. https://imgur.com/zMPzIgK.png Personally Karnal, I don't give a Royal Rats Ass. The choice is the President's to exercise........ It's his Right........ What he does or doesn't do in this matter is not for me to lose a moment of sleep over. 8-) I celebrate the fact that my fellow Americans are fighting for their Rights across the US, & as time goes on their chances of success increases with friendly ears in the DOJ...It seems to be more of your concern, so you follow it up over the next 1,000+ days & keep us all up to date. ;) More importantly hundreds upon hundreds of non-violent felons have petitioned the DOJ for reinstatement of their Second Amendment Rights to Keep & Bear Arms & more will most certainly succeed. https://imgur.com/ay4GYqv.gif https://imgur.com/3m8TicF.gif https://imgur.com/4F6nbS9.gif https://imgur.com/8HaR1LB.gif .

Incorrect. You care deeply about the issue, as demonstrated by your post thus:


Panther wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:14pm:

Personally, if a felon committed heinous crimes against a fellow citizen or citizens of the United States, again, personally I wouldn't feel that restoring their 2A Rights should ever come to pass.....even if they have become sincerely contrite & served out their criminal sentence/punishment.

Personally, you say. You wouldn't feel. We now know exactly what your feelings on this important matter are: you care deeply.

If a felon committed heinous crimes against a fellow citizen/citizens of your beloved United States, you don't want their 2A Rights restored ever again. Hell, you might say, should freeze over first.

400 million is expected to rise.
'American cowboys did carry multiple guns for backup or increased firepower, especially those with military backgrounds like Confederate guerrillas. Carrying a second gun for quick reloading was practical, as revolvers held only six shots, making another loaded gun the fastest "reload."

Mr President has no cards now when Press may come on with two pistols each and he may be the weakest POTUS in history, ever.

chimera wrote on Dec 21^st, 2025 at 8:37pm:

400 million is expected to rise. 'American cowboys did carry multiple guns for backup or increased firepower, especially those with military backgrounds like Confederate guerrillas. Carrying a second gun for quick reloading was practical, as revolvers held only six shots, making another loaded gun the fastest "reload." Mr President has no cards now when Press may come on with two pistols each and he may be the weakest POTUS in history, ever.

If 47 wants to have his 2A restored, he'll need to take it up with SCOTUS.

'For a felon to have their federal firearms rights restored, they generally must obtain a presidential pardon'. 
'A felony conviction resulting in a ban on owning a firearm in one U.S. state means you are generally prohibited from possessing firearms in all U.S. states, permanently. Federal law, specifically 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1), makes it unlawful for any person convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year (which generally covers all felonies) to ship, transport, receive, or possess firearms or ammunition anywhere in the United States. A state license does not override federal law. This federal ban applies even if a person's state of residence has laws that might otherwise allow them to possess a firearm or has restored their civil rights'.

'The question of whether a U.S. President can pardon themselves is a debated constitutional gray area, with legal consensus leaning towards no, based on the principle that no person can be a judge in their own case, as suggested by a 1974 Department of Justice memo'.
'Historically, Roman dictators had temporary, near-absolute power, while modern examples involve emergency decrees and suspension of liberties to achieve total control, as seen with Hitler'.

chimera wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 1:28am:

'For a felon to have their federal firearms rights restored, they generally must obtain a presidential pardon'.  'A felony conviction resulting in a ban on owning a firearm in one U.S. state means you are generally prohibited from possessing firearms in all U.S. states, permanently. Federal law, specifically 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1), makes it unlawful for any person convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year (which generally covers all felonies) to ship, transport, receive, or possess firearms or ammunition anywhere in the United States. A state license does not override federal law. This federal ban applies even if a person's state of residence has laws that might otherwise allow them to possess a firearm or has restored their civil rights'. 'The question of whether a U.S. President can pardon themselves is a debated constitutional gray area, with legal consensus leaning towards no, based on the principle that no person can be a judge in their own case, as suggested by a 1974 Department of Justice memo'. 'Historically, Roman dictators had temporary, near-absolute power, while modern examples involve emergency decrees and suspension of liberties to achieve total control, as seen with Hitler'.

Good point, Chimera. Panther's beloved 47th prez is still ineligible to have his 2A Rights restored.

As you point out, he may, if he so chooses, request a pardon from the 48th. Gavin Newscum, Tampon Tim or even Crooked Hillary, if she runs again, will need to take this request into consideration if erected.

You may recall the offender, Enrique Tarrio. Enrique smuggled a cache of weapons and ammo into Washington in order to attack Congress and launch a violent insurrection. He was caught red-handed on Jan 5, 2021, convicted and sentenced to 22 years behind bars.

Today, Enrique has his 2A Rights restored. You'll be pleased to know Panther's DL pardoned Enrique and ordered his release in January, 2025. Enrique's weapon of choice?

Panther's believed AR 15. Enrique never leaves home without it.

You?

Indeed, the 48 could give his shooter back to the ex-president and give 47 the power he so sadly lacks today. The retiring image is of pardon for his mud-slide election.
Other felons can't vote while in prison but their disarmed felon Chief votes in UN and restores guns to the felony Boys. Prison parole boards can explain it all to the inmates, ask Panther. 

chimera wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 3:01pm:

Indeed, the 48 could give his shooter back to the ex-president and give 47 the power he so sadly lacks today. The retiring image is of pardon for his mud-slide election. Other felons can't vote while in prison but their disarmed felon Chief votes in UN and restores guns to the felony Boys. Prison parole boards can explain it all to the inmates, ask Panther.

Now now, Chimera, Panther won't even support a candidate indicted for a crime and/or crimes. Why would he support a prez establishing a 2A Division who's had his own 2A Rights revoked?

Such brazen hypocrisy would be unthinkable for such a patriot. Panther's a law and order man. He would never support a felon convicted of grave crimes against his fellow citizens having their 2A Rights restored.

Hell, he says, would have to freeze over first.

I'm having suspicions that 49% who voted [1] Felon are not entitled morally to shoot people. They're sort of conspirators or associates. So Panther is a doubtful at this stage.

chimera wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2025 at 6:52pm:

I'm having suspicions that 49% who voted [1] Felon are not entitled morally to shoot people. They're sort of conspirators or associates. So Panther is a doubtful at this stage.

No no, Panther's our Constitutional scholar. The law's his thing, dear. Nothing is more important to Panther than truth, justice and the American way.

He would never support such conspiracies and associations. Oh no, never ever.

Hell would have to freeze over first.

https://www.thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/us-news/trump-news/2025/12/24/trump-andrew-epstein
Andrew is a great American buddy and loses his shooters and almost everything. Trump may stay unarmed.

'The U.S. military is estimated to possess approximately 4.5 million firearms in total, according to data from a 2018 Small Arms Survey.'  These are Trump's guns at hand which makes him the best-equipped felon of all time.  Whether the US military is led by an outlaw is no-one's business.

chimera wrote on Dec 25^th, 2025 at 6:00pm:

https://www.thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/us-news/trump-news/2025/12/24/trump-andrew-epstein Andrew is a great American buddy and loses his shooters and almost everything. Trump may stay unarmed. 'The U.S. military is estimated to possess approximately 4.5 million firearms in total, according to data from a 2018 Small Arms Survey.'  These are Trump's guns at hand which makes him the best-equipped felon of all time.  Whether the US military is led by an outlaw is no-one's business.

True, but if he carries even one of those weapons, he's breaking Panther's beloved rule of law.

I guess that's why Panther said he'd never support an indicted felon as prez. How could you possibly have a felon administering Panther's 2A Rights?

If he does take a rifle from a soldier there would be an interesting discussion. When Nixon was being investigated at Watergate, the FBI confronted the CIA with opposite duties.

'Mr President, Sir, you don't have the legal right to possess that weapon. Well, you do but not, you are the Chief, Sir, but without a license by law, Sir, Your Felon'.

chimera wrote on Dec 26^th, 2025 at 1:24am:

If he does take a rifle from a soldier there would be an interesting discussion. When Nixon was being investigated at Watergate, the FBI confronted the CIA with opposite duties. 'Mr President, Sir, you don't have the legal right to possess that weapon. Well, you do but not, you are the Chief, Sir, but without a license by law, Sir, Your Felon'.

When Nixon was being investigated by the FBI, the Deputy Director famously said no one could stop an FBI investigation, not even the FBI.

Now they've got hacks like Pam and Kash, they're shredding files like it's the fall of Saigon.

Pam and Kash are nowhere to be seen. Dan Bongino's disappeared - poof! Panther's much beloved FBI is a shadow of its former self: truth, justice and the American way, no one above the law.

Now we have former constitutional conservatives advising presidents to break the law. The US has lost the Cold War. Putin's won.

And he didn't even have to fire a shot.

FD wrote on Dec 27^th, 2025 at 5:32pm:

chimera wrote on Dec 26th, 2025 at 1:24am: If he does take a rifle from a soldier there would be an interesting discussion. When Nixon was being investigated at Watergate, the FBI confronted the CIA with opposite duties. 'Mr President, Sir, you don't have the legal right to possess that weapon. Well, you do but not, you are the Chief, Sir, but without a license by law, Sir, Your Felon'. When Nixon was being investigated by the FBI, the Deputy Director famously said no one could stop an FBI investigation, not even the FBI. Now they've got hacks like Pam and Kash, they're shredding files like it's the fall of Saigon. Pam and Kash are nowhere to be seen. Dan Bongino's disappeared - poof! Panther's much beloved FBI is a shadow of its former self: truth, justice and the American way, no one above the law. Now we have former constitutional conservatives advising presidents to break the law. The US has lost the Cold War. Putin's won. And he didn't even have to fire a shot.

Apparently, 2900 lawyers have quit the DOJ since Bondi took over, at least some US lawyers have some integrity.

scope wrote on Dec 28^th, 2025 at 11:50am:

FD wrote on Dec 27th, 2025 at 5:32pm: chimera wrote on Dec 26th, 2025 at 1:24am: If he does take a rifle from a soldier there would be an interesting discussion. When Nixon was being investigated at Watergate, the FBI confronted the CIA with opposite duties. 'Mr President, Sir, you don't have the legal right to possess that weapon. Well, you do but not, you are the Chief, Sir, but without a license by law, Sir, Your Felon'. When Nixon was being investigated by the FBI, the Deputy Director famously said no one could stop an FBI investigation, not even the FBI. Now they've got hacks like Pam and Kash, they're shredding files like it's the fall of Saigon. Pam and Kash are nowhere to be seen. Dan Bongino's disappeared - poof! Panther's much beloved FBI is a shadow of its former self: truth, justice and the American way, no one above the law. Now we have former constitutional conservatives advising presidents to break the law. The US has lost the Cold War. Putin's won. And he didn't even have to fire a shot. Apparently, 2900 lawyers have quit the DOJ since Bondi took over, at least some US lawyers have some integrity.

Just so. A number of them were also fired for refusing to prosecute rigged cases. The result?


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In a subsequent legal opinion, a federal magistrate judge said the errors were part of a broader pattern of unprecedented prosecutorial missteps, resulting in a 21% dismissal rate of the D.C. U.S. Attorney's office's criminal complaints over eight weeks, compared to a mere 0.5% dismissal rate over the prior 10 years.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/unprecedented-errors-are-eroding-credibility-trumps-justice-department-2025-12-17/

Over a fifth of the DOJ's prosecutions dismissed since Panther's 47th prez took office. And that's just one office.

Many of these cases were thrown out after Pam, Todd, Kash and the big fella posted lies that led to mistrials.

Grand juries have rejected indictments. Judges have threatened Trump-appointed attorneys with criminal contempt. State attorneys have been stood down for being illegally appointed, leading to dozens of failed prosecutions. Case after case is being tossed.

And while the DOJ has seen its conviction rate plummet, DL's busily pardoning the previously convicted - for a price. One of his more notable pardons was Juan Hernandez, ex-Honduran prez - a drug trafficker doing a 45 year sentence in the US of A.

When he was asked why he'd just pardoned a guy convicted for importing 380 tonnes of coke into the US, the big fella said he wasn't sure.

When he was asked why he'd pardoned George Santos, a Congressman doing eight years for fraud - a guy so devious and depraved, the entire House of Representatives voted to chuck him out - the big fella had a chuckle.

Live and let live, he posted. We need to take care of our friends.

The whole point of crypto is it's secret - nobody knows. The Trump Org is estimated to have sold $3 bil in Trump and MelaniaCoin - sales to both foreign and domestic buyers.

We will make America great again, no?

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