The planned protest, “Stand up Australia “ is planned to be held in the Sutherland Shire  however other locations are expected all over the country.

The government is intent on passing laws to stop the protest, which is interesting as they did nothing to stop the last two and a half years of weekly protests.

I wonder why now?

Daves2017 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 8:57am:

The planned protest, “Stand up Australia “ is planned to be held in the Sutherland Shire  however other locations are expected all over the country. The government is intent on passing laws to stop the protest, which is interesting as they did nothing to stop the last two and a half years of weekly protests. I wonder why now?

There should be hude demos on Australia Day for Australia.
https://marchforaustralia.org/

Daves2017 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 8:57am:

The planned protest, “Stand up Australia “ is planned to be held in the Sutherland Shire  however other locations are expected all over the country. The government is intent on passing laws to stop the protest, which is interesting as they did nothing to stop the last two and a half years of weekly protests. I wonder why now?

Well,  Minns wants to ban all protests, including protests in support of the Palestinian state which RW Jewish ogres and their supporters are bent on preventing.

So now those RW Jewish supporters will have the rug drawn out from under them as well....

I can see Minn's  point: blind ideologues on all sides could easily  foment civil breakdown. 

Hundreds of thousands should storm the Mosques and tear them down.
There should be the Koori, Torres Straits and Unions Cross flags there as well as the political Australian flag there.
Mussos should be swamped by massive Australian numbers and give them a good beating for discipline!
If the Mussos open fire, then just carry on showing the try spirit of Australia!

Send in the Drones and blow those Mosques into rubble.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 9:59am:

Daves2017 wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 8:57am: The planned protest, “Stand up Australia “ is planned to be held in the Sutherland Shire  however other locations are expected all over the country. The government is intent on passing laws to stop the protest, which is interesting as they did nothing to stop the last two and a half years of weekly protests. I wonder why now? Well,  Minns wants to ban all protests, including protests in support of the Palestinian state which RW Jewish ogres and their supporters are bent on preventing. So now those RW Jewish supporters will have the rug drawn out from under them as well.... I can see Minn's  point: blind ideologues on all sides could easily  foment civil breakdown.

We already have civil breakdown so there must be another end game....

Americans are already out in rallies and protests against Mussos in their country. Prompting solidarity in the world against evil Mussos.

In the clips with confrontations, the Mussos are telling they would never fight for America against Mussos nations.
Mussos are nothing but vampire parasites.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 11:26am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 9:59am: Daves2017 wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 8:57am: The planned protest, “Stand up Australia “ is planned to be held in the Sutherland Shire  however other locations are expected all over the country. The government is intent on passing laws to stop the protest, which is interesting as they did nothing to stop the last two and a half years of weekly protests. I wonder why now? Well,  Minns wants to ban all protests, including protests in support of the Palestinian state which RW Jewish ogres and their supporters are bent on preventing. So now those RW Jewish supporters will have the rug drawn out from under them as well.... I can see Minn's  point: blind ideologues on all sides could easily  foment civil breakdown.  We already have civil breakdown so there must be another end game....

Minns exact words suggested civil disturbance of civil war intensity.

We are not their yet, and he is  smart to prevent it.

Jasin wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 11:31am:

Americans are already out in rallies and protests against Mussos in their country. Prompting solidarity in the world against evil Mussos. In the clips with confrontations, the Mussos are telling they would never fight for America against Mussos nations. Mussos are nothing but vampire parasites.

Why do you tell lies so much, Jasin?  The last protests against Muslims occurred over a month ago in Dearborn, Michigan.  Clashes occurred between pro and anti crowds.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/crime/we-riot-police-issue-warning-over-cronulla-bashing-day/news-story/c79595c7508632a0441396150cd0b3a2

Bondi terror attack fallout: Cronulla riot fears grow after vile social media threat

Nearly 20 years after the infamous riots,
dark warnings have emerged that have locals fearing the unthinkable could happen again.


December 16,


The posts state: “WE RIOT. WOG/MIDDLE EASTERN BASHING DAY. SATURDAY 27TH DECEMBER 2025.

“SPREAD THE WORD AUSTRALIA! STAND THE F**K UP.”

In a statement, NSW Police said they are aware of the situation.

Tara Nicholls, who owns Cronulla jewellery store Florence by the Ocean, said she was shocked by the circulating post.

She said she feared the recent 20-year anniversary of the Cronulla riots had given people the “idea” to run a similar event.

“It’s absolutely horrible. It is shocking,” she told news.com.au.

“That’s not what Cronulla is about.”

Manny, who owns South Beach Seafood Company in Cronulla, which has been around for 33 years, said the event and the circulating post were “not good”.

However, he said he felt police were already on top of the situation.

They were clever boys to pick Bondi at Christmas for the shooting. It leads straight into the Christian faithful of Holy Cronulla and All Beaches, Amen.  Riots in Sydney are just what ISIS ordered.

Daves2017 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 8:57am:

The planned protest, “Stand up Australia “ is planned to be held in the Sutherland Shire  however other locations are expected all over the country. The government is intent on passing laws to stop the protest, which is interesting as they did nothing to stop the last two and a half years of weekly protests. I wonder why now?

Can you provide more information? I googled it and found a lot of different things with similar names, none of which were about a March on December 27.

freediver wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 1:52pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 8:57am: The planned protest, “Stand up Australia “ is planned to be held in the Sutherland Shire  however other locations are expected all over the country. The government is intent on passing laws to stop the protest, which is interesting as they did nothing to stop the last two and a half years of weekly protests. I wonder why now? Can you provide more information? I googled it and found a lot of different things with similar names, none of which were about a March on December 27.

Same here.

Closest I could find was this white supremacist event:

"Join us on the 26th of January 2026 to #MarchForAustralia with us."

I'll bet it's One Nation (evil Ashby) opportunism.

Protests are a supercharging of neuro linguistic programing.

Whatever you are celebrating with a crowd, you will feel way more passionate about it when you do it in a crowd.

It's a hive mind type thing.

You will be more programed about your favourite football team if you are in a crowd.
More programed about your religion.
More programed about the climate or  race or whatever if you are with a group.

It's why these things can spiral.
BLM  marches turn to violence.
Soccer hooligans.

The shooter was undoubtedly amped up by being at rallies with a crowd.

I would suggest only positive crowd experiences should be sanctioned.

Australia day. Anzac marches.
Tony Robbins events, the Melbourne cup.
Olympic parades with medals.
The royal family in a motorcade.

Things we can all agree are uplifting positive and patriotic.


Sorry marches, Palestinian marches, climate activists are negative angry mobs...so ban those.

I support the gay Mardi gras.
It's positive joyful smiling people having a blast.

Could the pro Palestinians or pro climate or even pro Jewish marches please watch the Mardi grass and learn to smile and be light hearted.

What donny and myself would call

" raising the vibration".

I would never attend a negative angry march.
Your mental health has to be Gaurded from toxic negativity

aquascoot wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 3:57pm:

What donny and myself would call " raising the vibration".

Donny and aqua had to smile when the boys had a blast on Jan 6th 2021, wahoo! Wearing Injun paint, make elections great again, vibrate the Capitol.

chimera wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 4:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 3:57pm: What donny and myself would call " raising the vibration". Donny and aqua had to smile when the boys had a blast on Jan 6th 2021, wahoo! Wearing Injun paint, make elections great again, vibrate the Capitol.

I study donny.
Both donny and myself would NEVER  join in a mob event at the Capitol with people getting all angry and upset.

Yuk.

Are you asserting donny went to the Capitol?
Only green senators and Labor politicians go to protests.

Note John Howard did not go on the sorry march.
He would never vibe withbutt hurt victim ideology and guilt .

A superior man

Lots of intelligent comments here ( Jasin, please try harder).

I  believe that stopping any future protests are in our interests.
The actions of many have now ruined the right of all to protest peacefully.

Isn’t it sad that it took two and a half years of weekly protests  and then the Sydney harbour bridge march  that  fed the hatred and has accumulated in the worst terror attack on Australian soil to finally put the  protest supporting hatred and violence and evil as well as extremism on the government agenda?

I have no doubt that Australia is at the point of a civil war particularly in our major cities.

Well done to our nation leaders for getting us to this point and those that marched in support of terror.🤬

Truman said " the buck stops here"

meaning he wouldn't "pass the buck" (shift blame) but would make final decisions as President.

Albo - take note!

aquascoot wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 6:27pm:

Both donny and myself would NEVER  join in a mob event at the Capitol with people getting all angry and upset.

'Thompson said that his committee's final report "took into account the testimony of all witnesses" and that "all the evidence points to the same conclusion": Trump was angered because he wasn't able to go to the Capitol on Jan. 6'.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-report-trumps-jan-6-driver-contradicted-bombshell/story?id=108029352

At present there are no plans to send the terrorist to Guantanamo Bay

I think the best thing every Australian should do on the 27-12-25 is to stay in bed all day?

Seriously, listen to me!

Pre organised everything, smacks , food and whatever you indulge in.

Do not leave your bedroom!!!

P.s hello John Lennon

Have you seen the map of Cronulla? 10 cop cars could block the way in. Maybe the worst choice of protest site in Sydney.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cronulla+NSW+2230/@-34.0433772,151.1502082,16z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x6b12c81235d88f33:0x5017d681632b360!8m2!3d-34.0512081!4d151.1522679!16zL20vMDM3YnN5?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTIwOS4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA3MUgBUAM%3D

Daves2017 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:04pm:

I think the best thing every Australian should do on the 27-12-25 is to stay in bed all day? Seriously, listen to me! Pre organised everything, smacks , food and whatever you indulge in. Do not leave your bedroom!!! P.s hello John Lennon

Protesting is the only thing most of the lefties do other than stay in bed all day.

Daves2017 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 6:28pm:

Lots of intelligent comments here ( Jasin, please try harder). I  believe that stopping any future protests are in our interests. The actions of many have now ruined the right of all to protest peacefully. Isn’t it sad that it took two and a half years of weekly protests  and then the Sydney harbour bridge march  that  fed the hatred and has accumulated in the worst terror attack on Australian soil to finally put the  protest supporting hatred and violence and evil as well as extremism on the government agenda? I have no doubt that Australia is at the point of a civil war particularly in our major cities. Well done to our nation leaders for getting us to this point and those that marched in support of terror.🤬

Civil War!?  :o (Dave: do try harder :D)

The Right v the Left? Will the Left bring out the Homosexual Pretoria Guards, Thebans and Spartans? :D

Jasin wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:19pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 6:28pm: Lots of intelligent comments here ( Jasin, please try harder). I  believe that stopping any future protests are in our interests. The actions of many have now ruined the right of all to protest peacefully. Isn’t it sad that it took two and a half years of weekly protests  and then the Sydney harbour bridge march  that  fed the hatred and has accumulated in the worst terror attack on Australian soil to finally put the  protest supporting hatred and violence and evil as well as extremism on the government agenda? I have no doubt that Australia is at the point of a civil war particularly in our major cities. Well done to our nation leaders for getting us to this point and those that marched in support of terror.🤬 Civil War!?  :o (Dave: do try harder :D) The Right v the Left? Will the Left bring out the Homosexual Pretoria Guards, Thebans and Spartans? :D

Could be an opportunity to wipe out Collingwood supporters. ;D ;D

chimera wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 6:44pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 6:27pm: Both donny and myself would NEVER  join in a mob event at the Capitol with people getting all angry and upset. 'Thompson said that his committee's final report "took into account the testimony of all witnesses" and that "all the evidence points to the same conclusion": Trump was angered because he wasn't able to go to the Capitol on Jan. 6'. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-report-trumps-jan-6-driver-contradicted-bombshell/story?id=108029352 At present there are no plans to send the terrorist to Guantanamo Bay

So I guess Oz Trail Ya is going to put Gon'Mo on hold again - just when we need it .......... let the roundups begin!!

As with The Homeland concept - the good ones who want to participate fully can stay - those who are rough-necks and criminals and troublemakers and who 'want to do things their way' instead of the civilised and decent and fair way - are off to Aborassic Park...  I had a great spot up north picked out for Crocodile Colditz... maybe Frydemburgers will act on the idea and pay me royalties....

Just for the record - my theatre in Sydney which does a lot of Aboriginal stuff - is doing Ross Mayo's book he wrote... Dear Son, as a stage production first class.

Hope it does well.

Unfortunately you have both either missed the boat on the way to handing out brains port on the way to birth or don’t have any clue at the powers in play at the moment?

And it’s not the government!

I do not want to see another riot in the Sutherlands shire.

Because it’s twenty years on and it will be far, far more organised and effective.

Just as the Middle East revenge attacks will be against the shire and eastern suburbs and the northern beaches.

The government can crack down on registered law aiding citizens all they want.

Because there is  plenty of non registered non law abiding citizens with firearms who are waiting for a reason to let loose.


Everyone just needs to stay in bed on the 27-12-25

Nothing good will come from joining a protest.

The pro Palestinian protests have taught us that just ending in bloodshed.

The country is on a knife edge.

And people have learned after Covid crackdown EXACTLY how the police will deploy and enforce 😱

Daves are you refusing to tell us anything about this protest, including what it is about, until after we agree to turn up?

Did you get the date wrong? And the name of the protest? And the location?

I have  an excellent paying job.

I will  not endanger .

I’m “  alright jack “.

It WAS all over the media and especially social  media.

Check it out for yourself

Everything we say is being read, many, many times by people over your pay grade.

Racist Australia fights so hard.

Leroy wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:22pm:

Jasin wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 7:19pm: Daves2017 wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 6:28pm: Lots of intelligent comments here ( Jasin, please try harder). I  believe that stopping any future protests are in our interests. The actions of many have now ruined the right of all to protest peacefully. Isn’t it sad that it took two and a half years of weekly protests  and then the Sydney harbour bridge march  that  fed the hatred and has accumulated in the worst terror attack on Australian soil to finally put the  protest supporting hatred and violence and evil as well as extremism on the government agenda? I have no doubt that Australia is at the point of a civil war particularly in our major cities. Well done to our nation leaders for getting us to this point and those that marched in support of terror.🤬 Civil War!?  :o (Dave: do try harder :D) The Right v the Left? Will the Left bring out the Homosexual Pretoria Guards, Thebans and Spartans? :D Could be an opportunity to wipe out Collingwood supporters. ;D ;D

;D Onya!

Bad enough when Media dependant celebrities like Thomas Keneally, Bryon Brown and Fitzsimmons (A.R.M) went around calling for an (Irish) Republic induced 'Political' change because they don't like the English Master of Ceremony (Entertainment) known as the
Queen.  ::)
Utter Nutters pumping old world problems here just like the Mussos.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:47pm:

Racist Australia fights so hard.

Blaming Australians, not the Mussos.
Maybe you should just leave, eh? (Traitor)

Dnarever wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:47pm:

Racist Australia fights so hard.

And that’s exactly the situation we need to avoid and diffuse.

We must do everything to ensure no one fights because the “ new” Australian will fight back equally the same determination.

Everyone needs to just stay in bed!

Dnarever wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:47pm:

Racist Australia fights so hard.

Fight against who?

Leroy wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:53pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 7:47pm: Racist Australia fights so hard. Fight against who?

Yes. Do tell.

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/crime/heavily-armed-police-swoop-on-sydney-street-in-police-operation/news-story/87fef4207b85e8f4a1a3c70196895f0e


“ Heavily-armed police have detained seven men understood to be on their way to Bondi Beach, after intelligence suggested a “violent act” was possibly being planned.”

It’s already started.

Don’t stay in bed get under the mattress.

Albo…..what have you done and your pro Palestinian marches / created/ fed?

Jasin wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:50pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 7:47pm: Racist Australia fights so hard. Blaming Australians, not the Mussos. Maybe you should just leave, eh? (Traitor)

Is everyone who isn't racist a traitor in your world ?


Quote:

Blaming Australians

Who is saying that it is Australians behind these protests ?


Quote:

not the Mussos.

So you now saying that it is Mussos behing these protests ?

And I thought America was a police state.

Marla wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:27am:

And I thought America was a police state.

Big Brother tells us what to do -

it's for our own good.

NWO of Politics is giving Big Brother Media Lefty a bit of an arse kicking. ;D

'The Israeli government has approved the formalisation of 19 independent settlements in the occupied West Bank. This is the third wave of such formalisations this year by the government, which considers settlement expansion and annexation a top priority. During an earlier ceremony of formalisation, Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said, 'We are advancing de facto sovereignty on the ground to prevent any possibility of establishing an Arab state in [the West Bank].'
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/16/how-israel-expansion-push-deepens-palestinian-suffering-in-west-bank

In Australia, Land resumption is where Local, State or Federal Government are able to apply to resume part or all of your land for public infrastructure purposes, for power infrastructure purposes, for transport purposes such as roads or rail or for public access or mining purposes.
Normally an Ozzie hands over his land for free with a grin and neighbours even offer to add their land to the resumption, and demolish their houses. Tents can then be set up as squatter camps for the families that enjoy progress and outdoor living.

Marla wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:27am:

And I thought America was a police state.

Yes - we can see that from your untroubled lifestyle that runs in contravention of many rules...  teenage rebellion perpetuated into adulthood.

If it were a police state you'd be in a gulag or on a chain gang...

Note The West Bank ... pre-colonisation (I love to stick  it to 'lefties' with their own silly words) Israeli land:-

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Kingdoms_of_Israel_and_Judah_map_830.svg/1004px-Kingdoms_of_Israel_and_Judah_map_830.svg.png

Marla wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:27am:

And I thought America was a police state.

We're you stoned out of your brain when you had that thought, pot does make you paranoid. ;D

Hey Graps, love the map. Do you have a rough sketch of Australian countries in 1750. (That's about 2500 years later than your one)

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 10:24am:

Note The West Bank ... pre-colonisation (I love to stick  it to 'lefties' with their own silly words) Israeli land:-

Only unintelligent people or blind RW ideologues confuse a 2-3,000 year old map with the map of Palestine which existed in 1947, before the UN split it in two....and caused the murder (aka Islamic Terrorism) in Bondi last week.

Deplorable.

Note: I loathe Netanyahu and his supporters, and I'm not an Islamic terrorist.

And that is not "hate speech". 

Wake up.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 10:58am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:24am: Note The West Bank ... pre-colonisation (I love to stick  it to 'lefties' with their own silly words) Israeli land:- Only unintelligent people or blind RW ideologues confuse a 2-3,000 year old map with the map of Palestine which existed in 1947

The State of Palestine did not exist as an independent nation in 1947

Good old Grappler shows Philistine States next to Kingdom of Judah. Philistine became Palestine as in Gaza.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 10:24am:

Note The West Bank ... pre-colonisation (I love to stick  it to 'lefties' with their own silly words) Israeli land:-

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Kingdoms_of_Israel_and_Judah_map_830.svg/1004px-Kingdoms_of_Israel_and_Judah_map_830.svg.png

Even better today.
https://waldereducation.org/wp-content/themes/yootheme/cache/9a/PSJEW13-JR1792-9adb7751.jpeg

It even has Arabu Tribes there, next to Philistines.
Graps and Islam.

"Am Yisrael Chai" (עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי) meaning "The People of Israel Live,"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DPqNHkm1bM

Just an update, it's 2025 not 1948.

freediver wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 11:14am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:58am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:24am: Note The West Bank ... pre-colonisation (I love to stick  it to 'lefties' with their own silly words) Israeli land:- Only unintelligent people or blind RW ideologues confuse a 2-3,000 year old map with the map of Palestine which existed in 1947 The State of Palestine did not exist as an independent nation in 1947

True, the League of Nations granted the British a mandate over Palestine after WW1.

But the Mandate specified a defined area, with majority Muslim population, as Palestine had been ruled by a succession of Muslim empires since the 7th century, up to the collapse of the Ottoman empire in 1917. 

Leroy wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 11:44am:

Just an update, it's 2025 not 1948.

And in 1948, the UN decided to split Mandate Palestine - without suceeding to implement UN res 181.

Note: the UN fell over at its very beginning, in the face of the demands of the US and USSR for the UNSC veto. 

Nevertheless the whole world except  RW** Jews and their supporters wants the 2 states NOW. 

**the RW: driven as always by the ancient 'might is right'/individual freedom instinct which was the impulse for the demand for the UNSC veto.

Deplorable.

tallowood wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 11:41am:

"Am Yisrael Chai" (עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי) meaning "The People of Israel Live,"

Yes, but they didn't inhabit a sovereign state called Israel for most of their history as a people - Israel (the state) has been subject to rule by a succession of world empires since the Assyrian empire swallowed the nothern tribes in the 8th century BC, before dissappearing as a  state entirely under the Roman empire. 

Solomon's quarrelsome  successors, who soon split into two states (Nand S)  -  couldn't preserve Israel's  independence from the powerful  neigbouring states; and Israel only exists today because the UN decided to split Palestine (...holocaust guilt?.....the US didn't want Jewish immigrants during WW2...).


Meanwhile the Bronze age religion of the Hebrews is still celebrated in the Judeo Christian world because the OT was adopted as the prologue to the NT, given Christ was a Jew.  ... a fact neither Jews nor Christians like to mention....

Has any of this dribble got anything to do with the protest on Dec 28th ?

Does anyone know what this supposed protest is meant to be about ?

I have seen claims that it is about 10 different things ?

Arab leaders and the Arab Higher Committee rejected the United Nations partition plan (Resolution 181) of November 1947, which proposed dividing Mandatory Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states.

Arabs preferred war, they got it, they lost it. "The People of Israel Live". End of story.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:39pm:

Has any of this dribble got anything to do with the protest on Dec 28th ? Does anyone know what this supposed protest is meant to be about ? I have seen claims that it is about 10 different things ?

Depends what the protests are about. - anti semitism , or pro palestine; what do you think they will be  about?

Oz day holiday and its date?

Pauline will be there...

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:39pm: Has any of this dribble got anything to do with the protest on Dec 28th ? Does anyone know what this supposed protest is meant to be about ? I have seen claims that it is about 10 different things ? Depends what the protests are about. - anti semitism , or pro palestine; what do you think they will be  about? Oz day holiday and its date? Pauline will be there...

I bet she is and Ashby will be flogging the merchandise.

tallowood wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:39pm:

Arab leaders and the Arab Higher Committee rejected the United Nations partition plan (Resolution 181) of November 1947, which proposed dividing Mandatory Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states. Arabs preferred war, they got it, they lost it. "The People of Israel Live". End of story.

And they have kept Palistinians in the worlds largest outdoor prison for over 50 years while continually stealing more and more of their land in settlment year after year.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:39pm: Has any of this dribble got anything to do with the protest on Dec 28th ? Does anyone know what this supposed protest is meant to be about ? I have seen claims that it is about 10 different things ? Depends what the protests are about. - anti semitism , or pro palestine; what do you think they will be  about? Oz day holiday and its date? Pauline will be there...

If they want us to go to it don't you think they should tell us what we would be supporting ?

Paulines fish and chip stand would be a positive.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:39pm: Has any of this dribble got anything to do with the protest on Dec 28th ? Does anyone know what this supposed protest is meant to be about ? I have seen claims that it is about 10 different things ? Depends what the protests are about. - anti semitism , or pro palestine; what do you think they will be  about? Oz day holiday and its date? Pauline will be there...

Quote:

Pauline will be there.

Yuk.

.

tallowood wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:39pm:

Arab leaders and the Arab Higher Committee rejected the United Nations partition plan (Resolution 181) of November 1947, which proposed dividing Mandatory Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states. Arabs preferred war, they got it, they lost it. "The People of Israel Live". End of story.

Not end of story see my post above.

Jews were sovereign in a state of Israel for c. 250 years only (out of c. 3000 years of Jewish existence), which doesn't earn them the right to ignore  UN res 181 now.

The UN created the current mess, and the UN needs to fix it.

In the meantime, Jews need to stop celebrating their bronze age religion in public; their 'god' didn't preserve Israel as an independent state  ... and the OT's  "numerous as the stars" prediction also  failed to materialise - there are about 17 million Jews in the world today cf over a billion each of Christians and Muslims.   

You're just trying to deny and make excuses TGD, against the inevitability of destiny I'm Israel replacing Islam as the Military Empire and Moslems replacing the Jews as the unarmed Religion of Pacifism.
You won't accept both swapping each other's pasts for their futures.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:55pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:45pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:39pm: Has any of this dribble got anything to do with the protest on Dec 28th ? Does anyone know what this supposed protest is meant to be about ? I have seen claims that it is about 10 different things ? Depends what the protests are about. - anti semitism , or pro palestine; what do you think they will be  about? Oz day holiday and its date? Pauline will be there... If they want us to turn up don't you think they should tell us what we would be protesting ?

Yes.

But the topic here has been usurped by the current raging debate re 'antisemitism' and islamic terrorism.

(I admit I didn't read the OP; its seems Minns wants to ban all protests, you can see his motivation in the current climate...

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:02pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 11:14am: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:58am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:24am: Note The West Bank ... pre-colonisation (I love to stick  it to 'lefties' with their own silly words) Israeli land:- Only unintelligent people or blind RW ideologues confuse a 2-3,000 year old map with the map of Palestine which existed in 1947 The State of Palestine did not exist as an independent nation in 1947 True, the League of Nations granted the British a mandate over Palestine after WW1. But the Mandate specified

No-one cares what the mandate specified. Not even the locals. Only little pinks who have deluded themselves into thinking the UN also granted China a mandate over Taiwan.

Jasin wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:05pm:

You're just trying to deny and make excuses TGD, against the inevitability of destiny I'm Israel replacing Islam as the Military Empire and Moslems replacing the Jews as the unarmed Religion of Pacifism. You won't accept both swapping each other's pasts for their futures.

Have a shot as refuting any of the points I'm making.

btw, the Jewish god is a 'man of war' who authorized genocide in excruciating detail - according to Jewish scripture itself (ie, the OT), which hardly ties in with your 'thesis' re "Jews as the unarmed Religion of Pacifism".

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 12:50pm:

tallowood wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:39pm: Arab leaders and the Arab Higher Committee rejected the United Nations partition plan (Resolution 181) of November 1947, which proposed dividing Mandatory Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states. Arabs preferred war, they got it, they lost it. "The People of Israel Live". End of story. And they have kept Palistinians in the worlds largest outdoor prison for over 50 years while continually stealing more and more of their land in settlment year after year.

Nonsense.

The Palestinians could have accepted the UN resolution, formed their own state and developed alongside Israel instead of starting wars.


THey are contained ONLY because they cannot control themselves, they cannot focus on making a go at building a country, only on destroying a country, that is why they are contained.

Until 1967 all the Pallo territories of WB and Gaza were OUTSIDE Israeli control. They were occupied by Jordan and Egypt.
The WB oallos wee full citizens of Jordan, the second country of the two state solution. Gazans, on the other hand, were bared from Egypt even while Gaza was under Egyptian military control, ie ' open air prison' guarded by Egypt.
Nobody wants the buggers and they don't want a viable country of their own.

freediver wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:14pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:02pm: freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 11:14am: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:58am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:24am: Note The West Bank ... pre-colonisation (I love to stick  it to 'lefties' with their own silly words) Israeli land:- Only unintelligent people or blind RW ideologues confuse a 2-3,000 year old map with the map of Palestine which existed in 1947 The State of Palestine did not exist as an independent nation in 1947 True, the League of Nations granted the British a mandate over Palestine after WW1. But the Mandate specified No-one cares what the mandate specified. Not even the locals.

Your error:

1. The locals consisted of majority Muslims and minority Jews, and they  had very different views of the Mandate.

(Nice try but no cigar, try again..)


2. The whole world has signed up to UN res  181, in order to stop  RW Jews and their supporters oppressing Muslims in what remains of Palestine.



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Only little pinks who have deluded themselves into thinking the UN also granted China a mandate over Taiwan.

Your error: the UN didn't "grant  China a mandate  over Taiwan" (as did the League when they  granted Britain a mandate over  Palestine); the UN recognised that the government of China ie, the ROChina headquatered  on Taiwan, had changed to the PR(of)China with the capital in Beijing.

....

Now..... I know acquiring self awarness is painful, but the days of RW 'might is right'/individual freedom ideology are numbered, if human civilization is to prosper in the Age of MAD.

   

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:19pm:

Jasin wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:05pm: You're just trying to deny and make excuses TGD, against the inevitability of destiny I'm Israel replacing Islam as the Military Empire and Moslems replacing the Jews as the unarmed Religion of Pacifism. You won't accept both swapping each other's pasts for their futures. Have a shot as refuting any of the points I'm making. btw, the Jewish god is a 'man of war' who authorized genocide in excruciating detail - according to Jewish scripture itself (ie, the OT), which hardly ties in with your 'thesis' re "Jews as the unarmed Religion of Pacifism".

If I told you that the purpose of Islam & Israel are to Unite in the future via the release of Europe from Christianity oppression.
Palestinians attacking Israel goes against that Unification.
Unification is Peace.

The Lord has spoken in truth and wisdom of the just. Behold and obey all ye of the chosen Man.
'The United States remains focused on keeping Israel secure and Gaza and the West Bank stable,” Jennifer Locetta told the UN Security Council on Tuesday.

“President Trump has been perfectly clear that the United States expects the violence in the West Bank to end, and that the United States will not allow the annexation of the West Bank,” she added.

Frank wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:50pm: tallowood wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:39pm: Arab leaders and the Arab Higher Committee rejected the United Nations partition plan (Resolution 181) of November 1947, which proposed dividing Mandatory Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states. Arabs preferred war, they got it, they lost it. "The People of Israel Live". End of story. And they have kept Palistinians in the worlds largest outdoor prison for over 50 years while continually stealing more and more of their land in settlment year after year. Nonsense.

No, it's fact, despite yout blind assertions following,namely: 


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The Palestinians could have accepted the UN resolution, formed their own state and developed alongside Israel instead of starting wars.

They could have .... if they were 'enlightened'..... , but accepting a Jewish state  carved out of their land for the benefit of people judged by their religion to be 'Infidels' was an insult to their religion.

See the problem?



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THey are contained ONLY because they cannot control themselves, they cannot focus on making a go at building a country, only on destroying a country, that is why they are contained. Until 1967 all the Pallo territories of WB and Gaza were OUTSIDE Israeli control. They were occupied by Jordan and Egypt. The WB oallos wee full citizens of Jordan, the second country of the two state solution. Gazans, on the other hand, were bared from Egypt even while Gaza was under Egyptian military control, ie ' open air prison' guarded by Egypt. Nobody wants the buggers and they don't want a viable country of their own.

Again, you are ignoring the insult to their religion, as a result of being told to  give up land for Infidels, hence Egypt and Jordan also became involved.

chimera wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:56pm:

The Lord has spoken in truth and wisdom of the just. Behold and obey all ye of the chosen Man. 'The United States remains focused on keeping Israel secure and Gaza and the West Bank stable,” Jennifer Locetta told the UN Security Council on Tuesday. “President Trump has been perfectly clear that the United States expects the violence in the West Bank to end, and that the United States will not allow the annexation of the West Bank,” she added.

And yet the illegal WB settlements are increasing daily.

I think 'God' (Trump) has a blind eye....

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:03pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:50pm: tallowood wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:39pm: Arab leaders and the Arab Higher Committee rejected the United Nations partition plan (Resolution 181) of November 1947, which proposed dividing Mandatory Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states. Arabs preferred war, they got it, they lost it. "The People of Israel Live". End of story. And they have kept Palistinians in the worlds largest outdoor prison for over 50 years while continually stealing more and more of their land in settlment year after year. Nonsense. No, it's fact, despite yout blind assertions following,namely:  Quote: The Palestinians could have accepted the UN resolution, formed their own state and developed alongside Israel instead of starting wars. They could have .... if they were 'enlightened'..... , but accepting a Jewish state  carved out of their land for the benefit of people judged by their religion to be 'Infidels' was an insult to their religion. See the problem? [quote]THey are contained ONLY because they cannot control themselves, they cannot focus on making a go at building a country, only on destroying a country, that is why they are contained. Until 1967 all the Pallo territories of WB and Gaza were OUTSIDE Israeli control. They were occupied by Jordan and Egypt. The WB oallos wee full citizens of Jordan, the second country of the two state solution. Gazans, on the other hand, were bared from Egypt even while Gaza was under Egyptian military control, ie ' open air prison' guarded by Egypt. Nobody wants the buggers and they don't want a viable country of their own.

Again, you are ignoring the insult to their religion, as a result of being told to  give up land for Infidels, hence Egypt and Jordan also became involved.


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If was happening all over the world. Islam is not special.

Why didnt Egypt and Jordan create a Palestine or absorb the palestinians?
Why did the Muslims accept the creation of Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, after the demise of the Ottomans?

Whg weren't the Palestinyans not "enlightened"? Why aren't they still?

Jasin wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:51pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:19pm: Jasin wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:05pm: You're just trying to deny and make excuses TGD, against the inevitability of destiny I'm Israel replacing Islam as the Military Empire and Moslems replacing the Jews as the unarmed Religion of Pacifism. You won't accept both swapping each other's pasts for their futures. Have a shot as refuting any of the points I'm making. btw, the Jewish god is a 'man of war' who authorized genocide in excruciating detail - according to Jewish scripture itself (ie, the OT), which hardly ties in with your 'thesis' re "Jews as the unarmed Religion of Pacifism". If I told you that the purpose of Islam & Israel are to Unite in the future via the release of Europe from Christianity oppression. Palestinians attacking Israel goes against that Unification. Unification is Peace.

Sorry Jasin I'm  having trouble deciphering your Prognostications.

If you surmise an intelligent, prosperous human civilization living is peace is "an inevitability", well that's a fine statement - except that men have to make it happen, I think.

Frank wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:46pm:

The Palestinians could have accepted the UN resolution, formed their own state and developed alongside Israel instead of starting wars.

Why do you keep perpetuating this lie, Soren?  It is a WOFTAM.  In reality the Israelis  offer an unworkable comprise based on their belief in "Eretz Isreal" than something realistic that the Palestinians could live with.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

chimera wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:56pm: The Lord has spoken in truth and wisdom of the just. Behold and obey all ye of the chosen Man. 'The United States remains focused on keeping Israel secure and Gaza and the West Bank stable,” Jennifer Locetta told the UN Security Council on Tuesday. “President Trump has been perfectly clear that the United States expects the violence in the West Bank to end, and that the United States will not allow the annexation of the West Bank,” she added. And yet the illegal WB settlements are increasing daily. I think 'God' (Trump) has a blind eye....

The WB and Gaza were NOT part of ANY recognised country either in 1948 when Jordan and Egypt occupied them, nor in 1967 when Israel occupied them.

Had the Palestinians declared their own country at the same time the Jrews accepted the UN resolution, those territories would now be part of a legit country and Israeli settlements would be illegal. But since these territories are not part of any recognised country, settlements are not illegal. That's the Israeli reasoning. And considering the only use Pallos have put these territories to  is terorist bases against Israel, I can't say I blame the Jews for slowly changing the de facto demography on the ground. How would you deal with a terrorist nest hellbent on your destruction? (You would surrender to it, I know. I know)

If Birmingham can be 50 % Musulman then the WB can be 50 % Jewish.

Frank wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:25pm:

If was happening all over the world. Islam is not special.

Islam is special in that the Koran specifies Jews as infidels.

Just as Judaism is special in that it identifies Jehovah - the 'Jealous god' -  as Lord of the world.


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Why didnt Egypt and Jordan create a Palestine or absorb the palestinians?

Because that would be an insult to Islam ie to give up land for infidels.


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Why did the Muslims accept the creation of Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, after the demise of the Ottomans?

Because the victorious powers carved up the former lands of the Ottoman empire without forcing a religion of Infidels  onto the inhabitants of those new state entities.


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Why weren't the Palestinyans not "enlightened"? Why aren't they still?

For the same reason fundamentalist Jews (and Jewish "Promised Land"  terrorists in the WB)  are not enlightened: they hold every word in their respective scriptures to be 'the Word of God'.

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:27pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:46pm: The Palestinians could have accepted the UN resolution, formed their own state and developed alongside Israel instead of starting wars. Why do you keep perpetuating this lie, Soren?  It is a WOFTAM.  In reality the Israelis  offer an unworkable comprise based on their belief in "Eretz Isreal" than something realistic that the Palestinians could live with.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Silly bollocks, Bbwiyawn. There was NO Israel before the Jews accepted the UNITED NATION's 1948 resolution and the Pallos and Arabs rejected it. That is why I said that the Pallos could have had their own state AT THE SAME TIME the Jews accepted the UN resolution and declared Israel.


The Palestinans had an equal chance, just like the Jews, to have their own state in 1948.
The Jews accepted the chance but the Muslim chose to bet on their ablity to strangle Israel at birth.
It didn't happen so Jordan and Gaza occupied what would have been Palestine (the WB and Gaza). They didn't create a Paiestine either but tried to strangle Israel again in 1967.
That didnt work either and Israel occupied the WB and Gaza ( to the eternal gratitude anc relief of Jordan and Egypt, I add).

The Pallos continued to be total ratbags and rejected another 4 or 5 opportunities to create a legitimate state, opting instead for permanent jihad and intifada.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:46pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:25pm: If was happening all over the world. Islam is not special. Islam is special in that the Koran specifies Jews as infidels. Just as Judaism is special in that it identifies Jehovah - the 'Jealous god' -  as Lord of the world. Quote: Why didnt Egypt and Jordan create a Palestine or absorb the palestinians? Because that would be an insult to Islam ie to give up land for infidels. [quote]Why did the Muslims accept the creation of Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, after the demise of the Ottomans?

Because the victorious powers carved up the former lands of the Ottoman empire without forcing a religion of Infidels  onto the inhabitants of those new state entities.


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Why weren't the Palestinyans not "enlightened"? Why aren't they still?

For the same reason fundamentalist Jews (and Jewish "Promised Land"  terrorists in the WB)  are not enlightened: they hold every word in their respective scriptures to be 'the Word of God'.




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So it is about Islam.

Frank wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:38pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:16pm: chimera wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:56pm: The Lord has spoken in truth and wisdom of the just. Behold and obey all ye of the chosen Man. 'The United States remains focused on keeping Israel secure and Gaza and the West Bank stable,” Jennifer Locetta told the UN Security Council on Tuesday. “President Trump has been perfectly clear that the United States expects the violence in the West Bank to end, and that the United States will not allow the annexation of the West Bank,” she added. And yet the illegal WB settlements are increasing daily. I think 'God' (Trump) has a blind eye.... The WB and Gaza were NOT part of ANY recognised country either in 1948 when Jordan and Egypt occupied them, nor in 1967 when Israel occupied them.

That's because the UN failed to implement its own UN res 181, in which the proposed Palestinian state would have been  a recognised country; if you (ie, the UN)  are going to split a country against the will of those remaining in the new entity which would be governed by "indidels", then you must ensure you can enforce your resolution (ie UN res 181) to avoid never ending war.




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Had the Palestinians declared their own country at the same time the Jrews accepted the UN resolution, those territories would now be part of a legit country and Israeli settlements would be illegal.

 

Discussed previosly: Pals weren't 'enlighted' enough to allow half their Muslim land to be confiscated for 'Infidels'. 


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How would you deal with a terrorist nest hellbent on your destruction? (You would surrender to it, I know. I know)

Deal with the cause of the terrorist cell, and then eliminate any further trouble makers. (Israel itself is pretty good at taking out key Hamas operatives, it can be done)

You are omitting the necesarty first bit...causation. 


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If Birmingham can be 50 % Musulman then the WB can be 50 % Jewish.

Your error: Muslims accept that Birmingham is in a 'Christian' country.

Whereas the Jewish WB ideologues in the WB don't accept that the WB is a Muslim entity, their goal is annexation of the WB.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:49pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:14pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:02pm: freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 11:14am: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:58am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:24am: Note The West Bank ... pre-colonisation (I love to stick  it to 'lefties' with their own silly words) Israeli land:- Only unintelligent people or blind RW ideologues confuse a 2-3,000 year old map with the map of Palestine which existed in 1947 The State of Palestine did not exist as an independent nation in 1947 True, the League of Nations granted the British a mandate over Palestine after WW1. But the Mandate specified No-one cares what the mandate specified. Not even the locals. Your error: 1. The locals consisted of majority Muslims and minority Jews, and they  had very different views of the Mandate.

They all rejected it for their own reasons. The Muslims wanted to slaughter Jews, and the Israelis built Israel.

Right of Return is wrong, the Arabs are right about that.  Now they can't return to East Jerusalem nor to the family olive trees in West Bank. Left right out.

Frank wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 2:56pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:46pm: Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:25pm: If was happening all over the world. Islam is not special. Islam is special in that the Koran specifies Jews as infidels. Just as Judaism is special in that it identifies Jehovah - the 'Jealous god' -  as Lord of the world. Quote: Why didnt Egypt and Jordan create a Palestine or absorb the palestinians? Because that would be an insult to Islam ie to give up land for infidels. [quote]Why did the Muslims accept the creation of Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, after the demise of the Ottomans? Because the victorious powers carved up the former lands of the Ottoman empire without forcing a religion of Infidels  onto the inhabitants of those new state entities. [quote]Why weren't the Palestinyans not "enlightened"? Why aren't they still?

For the same reason fundamentalist Jews (and Jewish "Promised Land"  terrorists in the WB)  are not enlightened: they hold every word in their respective scriptures to be 'the Word of God'.




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So it is about Islam.

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Your error: terrorism is about fundamentalist Islam and fundamentalist "Promised Land" Jewish mythology. 

Until the enlightenment can teach eveyone the 'Word of God' is not the Word of God,  but the word of men in search of God, we have a problem - in this case with both Jewish and Muslim terrorists.   

freediver wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 3:23pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:49pm: freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:14pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:02pm: freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 11:14am: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:58am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:24am: Note The West Bank ... pre-colonisation (I love to stick  it to 'lefties' with their own silly words) Israeli land:- Only unintelligent people or blind RW ideologues confuse a 2-3,000 year old map with the map of Palestine which existed in 1947 The State of Palestine did not exist as an independent nation in 1947 True, the League of Nations granted the British a mandate over Palestine after WW1. But the Mandate specified No-one cares what the mandate specified. Not even the locals. Your error: 1. The locals consisted of majority Muslims and minority Jews, and they  had very different views of the Mandate.     They all rejected it for their own reasons. The Muslims wanted to slaughter Jews, and the Israelis built Israel.

Breath-takingly biased narrative.

The Jews even ended up slaughtering Brits in the mandate land.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 3:33pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 3:23pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:49pm: freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:14pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:02pm: freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 11:14am: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:58am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:24am: Note The West Bank ... pre-colonisation (I love to stick  it to 'lefties' with their own silly words) Israeli land:- Only unintelligent people or blind RW ideologues confuse a 2-3,000 year old map with the map of Palestine which existed in 1947 The State of Palestine did not exist as an independent nation in 1947 True, the League of Nations granted the British a mandate over Palestine after WW1. But the Mandate specified No-one cares what the mandate specified. Not even the locals. Your error: 1. The locals consisted of majority Muslims and minority Jews, and they  had very different views of the Mandate.     They all rejected it for their own reasons. The Muslims wanted to slaughter Jews, and the Israelis built Israel. Breath-takingly biased narrative. The Jews even ended up slaughtering Brits in the mandate land.

It's not biased. The arab countries have ethnically cleansed pretty much all of their Jews. They have also attacked Israel repeatedly since it came into existence. The only thing stopping them wiping out the Jews is their incompetence. It is not for lack of trying. On the other hand Israel has granted it's arab muslim citizens more rights and freedoms, and more say in the governance of the country, than any other middle eastern or north african nation (or China). They make up about 20% of Israel's population, and have increased more than tenfold since Israel's creation.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 3:16pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:38pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 2:16pm: chimera wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:56pm: The Lord has spoken in truth and wisdom of the just. Behold and obey all ye of the chosen Man. 'The United States remains focused on keeping Israel secure and Gaza and the West Bank stable,” Jennifer Locetta told the UN Security Council on Tuesday. “President Trump has been perfectly clear that the United States expects the violence in the West Bank to end, and that the United States will not allow the annexation of the West Bank,” she added. And yet the illegal WB settlements are increasing daily. I think 'God' (Trump) has a blind eye.... The WB and Gaza were NOT part of ANY recognised country either in 1948 when Jordan and Egypt occupied them, nor in 1967 when Israel occupied them. That's because the UN failed to implement its own UN res 181, in which the proposed Palestinian state would have been  a recognised country; if you (ie, the UN)  are going to split a country against the will of those remaining in the new entity which would be governed by "indidels", then you must ensure you can enforce your resolution (ie UN res 181) to avoid never ending war. Quote: Had the Palestinians declared their own country at the same time the Jrews accepted the UN resolution, those territories would now be part of a legit country and Israeli settlements would be illegal.   Discussed previosly: Pals weren't 'enlighted' enough to allow half their Muslim land to be confiscated for 'Infidels'.  [quote] How would you deal with a terrorist nest hellbent on your destruction? (You would surrender to it, I know. I know)

Deal with the cause of the terrorist cell, and then eliminate any further trouble makers. (Israel itself is pretty good at taking out key Hamas operatives, it can be done)

You are omitting the necesarty first bit...causation. 


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If Birmingham can be 50 % Musulman then the WB can be 50 % Jewish.

Your error: Muslims accept that Birmingham is in a 'Christian' country.

Whereas the Jewish WB ideologues in the WB don't accept that the WB is a Muslim entity, their goal is annexation of the WB.
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If 2.5 billion Muslims, occupying about a fifth of the land of this planet, cannot concede a strip that is one third the size of Tasmania and has been called Jewdea LONG before Mohammed rode his winged horse to the moon and back - then I say to Muslims, Abdul in particular: **** you, invading occupying buggers, once again as for centuries before,  you are the living justification for universal islamophobia.

All the righties are spewing out their racist bile but is that what this protest is really all about ? Anyone know ?

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 5:29pm:

All the righties are spewing out their racist bile but is that what this protest is really all about ? Anyone know ?

All the Lefties are spewing out their racist anti white anti Australian bile because they are cowardly apologists, traitors and failures

Frank wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

cannot concede a strip that is one third the size of Tasmania

West Bank is about 1/3 what Russia seized in Ukraine.  They keep droning on about that.
(Fair enough, the Mussi get Tasmania)

freediver wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 4:18pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 3:33pm: freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 3:23pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:49pm: freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:14pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:02pm: freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 11:14am: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:58am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:24am: Note The West Bank ... pre-colonisation (I love to stick  it to 'lefties' with their own silly words) Israeli land:- Only unintelligent people or blind RW ideologues confuse a 2-3,000 year old map with the map of Palestine which existed in 1947 The State of Palestine did not exist as an independent nation in 1947 True, the League of Nations granted the British a mandate over Palestine after WW1. But the Mandate specified No-one cares what the mandate specified. Not even the locals. Your error: 1. The locals consisted of majority Muslims and minority Jews, and they  had very different views of the Mandate.     They all rejected it for their own reasons. The Muslims wanted to slaughter Jews, and the Israelis built Israel. Breath-takingly biased narrative. The Jews even ended up slaughtering Brits in the mandate land. It's not biased. The arab countries have ethnically cleansed pretty much all of their Jews.

More factual errors: Jews lived in peace with their Muslim overlords for much of history since the Arab conquests beginning in the 7th century.

The ethnic cleansing in Arab countries in the 20th century  was caused by the UN-enabled confiscation of Muslim land (half of Palestine)  in 1948, which propelled the current  Jewish conquest of Palestine. 


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They have also attacked Israel repeatedly since it came into existence.

Haven't you read my educational posts to Frank?

The Pals HAD to resist Jews because  the latter were 'infidels', meaning the occupation of Palestine by Jews was an insult to Islam. 

(Back in the 7th century when Islam conquered Palestine, the minority Jews  living there welcomed the Muslim Arabs  as liberators from the hated Christian Byzantines governing Palestine.)


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The only thing stopping them wiping out the Jews is their incompetence. It is not for lack of trying

True. That's why they have now accepted the UN position.


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On the other hand Israel has granted it's arab muslim citizens more rights and freedoms, and more say in the governance of the country, than any other middle eastern or north african nation (or China). They make up about 20% of Israel's population, and have increased more than tenfold since Israel's creation.

True (for the sake of the argument); BUT they are infidels - among whom are extremists who think all of Palestine belongs to Jews.

The world rejects the extremists on both sides.

Even Trump says Netanyu will never annex the WB....though Trump is being sneaky, ignoring the relentless ongoing annexation in progress.   

They have been arguing about Palestine/Israel for over 70 years and hundreds of thousands of lives lost.

Some just want to keep arguing.

Frank wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

If 2.5 billion Muslims, occupying about a fifth of the land of this planet, cannot concede a strip that is one third the size of Tasmania and has been called Jewdea LONG before Mohammed rode his winged horse to the moon and back - then I say to Muslims, Abdul in particular: **** you, invading occupying buggers, once again as for centuries before,  you are the living justification for universal islamophobia.

See my latest reply to FD.

The confiscation of half of Palestine for infidel Jews is an insult to Islam.

Pity about that, but that's how "god" operates,  - according to the OT and its off-shoot the Koran.

freediver wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 1:14pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:02pm: freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 11:14am: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:58am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:24am: Note The West Bank ... pre-colonisation (I love to stick  it to 'lefties' with their own silly words) Israeli land:- Only unintelligent people or blind RW ideologues confuse a 2-3,000 year old map with the map of Palestine which existed in 1947 The State of Palestine did not exist as an independent nation in 1947 True, the League of Nations granted the British a mandate over Palestine after WW1. But the Mandate specified No-one cares what the mandate specified. Not even the locals. Only little pinks who have deluded themselves into thinking the UN also granted China a mandate over Taiwan.

Or those who think Australia has a mandate over fishing in the Great Australian Bite.

No one cares about the occupation of Jordan, Southern Lebanon or Egypt. Not even the locals.

Do prawns feel pain?

Leroy wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 6:10pm:

They have been arguing about Palestine/Israel for over 70 years and hundreds of thousands of lives lost. Some just want to keep arguing.

Implementation of UN res 181 would go a long way to ending  the ongoing conflict now.

Guess who is blocking it, apart from extremists on both sides?

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 6:14pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 5:22pm:   If 2.5 billion Muslims, occupying about a fifth of the land of this planet, cannot concede a strip that is one third the size of Tasmania and has been called Jewdea LONG before Mohammed rode his winged horse to the moon and back - then I say to Muslims, Abdul in particular: **** you, invading occupying buggers, once again as for centuries before,  you are the living justification for universal islamophobia. See my latest reply to FD. The confiscation of half of Palestine for infidel Jews is an insult to Islam. Pity about that, but that's how "god" operates,  - according to the OT and its off-shoot the Koran.

**** Islam.


(Can I say that?)


Apparently it is OK to say **** Christtianity, **** Judaism, all ancient superstitions.

But if you also say **** Islam, that's instant wacism and 'islamophobia'.



Open, rational discourse has been hijacked and suppressed by people with shite morals, shite values, shite cultures because any rational discussion if their allegiances would demonstrate deep, unbundging, entrenched stupidity: Islamic fanatics, lefty fanatics, green fanatics. They have occupied the heights of public discourse throughout the universities, the media and the bureaucracy.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 6:22pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 6:10pm: They have been arguing about Palestine/Israel for over 70 years and hundreds of thousands of lives lost. Some just want to keep arguing. Implementation of UN res 181 would go a long way to ending  the ongoing conflict now. Guess who is blocking it, apart from extremists on both sides?

don't really care anymore, if you can't learn from 70 years experience then what difference will it make. Do what they want in Palestine/Israel, it is past sensible conversations.

Sometimes in life you have to lick your wounds and make the best of what you have, you choose the path you want to take and you are responsible for what you choose.

Just picking a side is contributing to the problem, the more attention it gets the worse it gets.

Frank wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

cannot concede a strip that is one third the size of Tasmania

Probably like you giving away your bathroom to some guy for no reason ????

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 6:38pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 5:22pm: cannot concede a strip that is one third the size of Tasmania Probably like you giving away your bathroom to some guy for no reason ????

Your bathroom called JEWdea.


That is amazingly stupid and inane even by your duckshite standards.

How old ARE you?
Er, 9, with special needs.

Oh.. sorry. Carry on, child.
Help yourself to the peas.




Ffs!

The trouble is, Israeli Holy Land bulldozers take bathroom, ballroom, wood shed, wife's sewing room, and chooks.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19^th, 2025 at 6:01pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 4:18pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 3:33pm: freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 3:23pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:49pm: freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 1:14pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 12:02pm: freediver wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 11:14am: thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:58am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 19th, 2025 at 10:24am: Note The West Bank ... pre-colonisation (I love to stick  it to 'lefties' with their own silly words) Israeli land:- Only unintelligent people or blind RW ideologues confuse a 2-3,000 year old map with the map of Palestine which existed in 1947 The State of Palestine did not exist as an independent nation in 1947 True, the League of Nations granted the British a mandate over Palestine after WW1. But the Mandate specified No-one cares what the mandate specified. Not even the locals. Your error: 1. The locals consisted of majority Muslims and minority Jews, and they  had very different views of the Mandate.     They all rejected it for their own reasons. The Muslims wanted to slaughter Jews, and the Israelis built Israel. Breath-takingly biased narrative. The Jews even ended up slaughtering Brits in the mandate land. It's not biased. The arab countries have ethnically cleansed pretty much all of their Jews. More factual errors: Jews lived in peace with their Muslim overlords for much of history since the Arab conquests beginning in the 7th century.

It is not an error, no matter how hard you try to polish your turd. Slaughtering Jews began with the prophet Muhammad, who wrote much of the Quran to justify Jew slaughtering at the time and into the future. The Jews lived in fear, not peace. Not the same thing. Like the Chinese people living in fear of the CCP, which has killed about 100 million of them.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/ethnic_cleansing.jpg

freediver wrote on Dec 20^th, 2025 at 10:18am:

It is not an error, no matter how hard you try to polish your turd. Slaughtering Jews began with the prophet Muhammad, who wrote much of the Quran to justify Jew slaughtering at the time and into the future. The Jews lived in fear, not peace. Not the same thing. Like the Chinese people living in fear of the CCP, which has killed about 100 million of them.

The Christians did their fair share of Jew killing too:


Google AI:

It is impossible to provide a precise total for the number of Jews killed in all the Crusades, as the violence spanned two centuries and reliable comprehensive records are unavailable. However, historical sources provide estimates for key massacres:


Rhineland Massacres (1096, First Crusade): This was the first major, organized anti-Jewish violence in Europe tied to the Crusades. Estimates for the total number of Jews killed in the cities of Speyer, Worms, Mainz, Cologne, and others range widely, from approximately 2,000 to 12,000 people. Some sources estimate that the total casualties across Germany and Northern France might have been one-fourth to one-third of the Jewish population at the time.


Siege of Jerusalem (1099, First Crusade): When the Crusaders captured Jerusalem, they massacred thousands of its inhabitants, both Muslims and Jews. While the exact figures are debated by historians, some sources suggest thousands of Jews were trapped in their synagogues and burned to death or killed. Estimates for the total people killed in the city range widely, with some chroniclers suggesting up to 70,000 in total for Muslims and Jews combined, though modern scholars often view this as an exaggeration.


Shepherd's Crusades (1251 and 1320): These later, popular movements (not official Holy Land campaigns) also targeted Jewish communities in France. The 1320 "Shepherd's Crusade" resulted in the destruction of about 140 Jewish communities in the path of the crusaders.


The Crusades initiated centuries of persecution and pogroms that led to thousands more deaths and the eventual expulsion of Jews from several European countries, including England and France. The violence during this era was unprecedented in its organized nature and widespread popular anti-Jewish sentiment it fostered among the masses.