I'm surprised it's taken this long for a conversation to take place about this. Most cop cars in the US have a rifle locked in a cradle that can be accessed by an officer when more firepower is needed than just their service hand gun. Had those Police been given access to such guns prior to yesterday, the death toll may well have been significantly lower.

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/bondi-mass-shooting-live-updates-matildas-parents-speak-at-vigil/live-coverage/fd1a525bf7f029879461f5b96f64379a

Sounds like a good idea.

Lives could have been saved.

Better to have one at each station with an officer with training on duty at all times.

The Yanks go overboard with armoured trucks to chase car thefts. There are videos of a dozen police cars around one crim, cops with military rifles all pointed at the dude in the wrecked car.

Gordon wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 9:14am:

Better to have one at each station with an officer with training on duty at all times.

No, that’s pointless. Why have them if you’re not going to put them where they are needed. If something happens that necessitates the use of a long gun and the have to wait for it to be retrieved from a station, it’s already too late. If the cops decide to get them then every new officer needs to be trained and proficient in their use and they need to be in every single cop car.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 9:53am:

Gordon wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:14am: Better to have one at each station with an officer with training on duty at all times. No, that’s pointless. Why have them if you’re not going to put them where they are needed. If something happens that necessitates the use of a long gun and the have to wait for it to be retrieved from a station, it’s already too late. If the cops decide to get them then every new officer needs to be trained and proficient in their use and they need to be in every single cop car.

The cops using them have to be well trained and very smart -

if they miss they could hit an innocent person 2 miles away.

chimera wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 9:47am:

The Yanks go overboard with armoured trucks to chase car thefts. There are videos of a dozen police cars around one crim, cops with military rifles all pointed at the dude in the wrecked car.

What happens when you live in a fascist police state that is America.

Marla wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 10:50am:

chimera wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:47am: The Yanks go overboard with armoured trucks to chase car thefts. There are videos of a dozen police cars around one crim, cops with military rifles all pointed at the dude in the wrecked car. What happens when you live in a fascist police state that is America.

Marla,
you live in a war zone with mass shootings every day -

we only get one mass shooting every 30 years.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 9:55am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:53am: Gordon wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:14am: Better to have one at each station with an officer with training on duty at all times. No, that’s pointless. Why have them if you’re not going to put them where they are needed. If something happens that necessitates the use of a long gun and the have to wait for it to be retrieved from a station, it’s already too late. If the cops decide to get them then every new officer needs to be trained and proficient in their use and they need to be in every single cop car. The cops using them have to be well trained and very smart - if they miss they could hit an innocent person 2 miles away.

To hit someone two miles away, they'd have to be lying prone on the ground using a ultra high powered sniper rifle like the Barrett M82, which weighs almost 15kg, has a range of almost 2km and can put a bullet through an engine block.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 11:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:55am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:53am: Gordon wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:14am: Better to have one at each station with an officer with training on duty at all times. No, that’s pointless. Why have them if you’re not going to put them where they are needed. If something happens that necessitates the use of a long gun and the have to wait for it to be retrieved from a station, it’s already too late. If the cops decide to get them then every new officer needs to be trained and proficient in their use and they need to be in every single cop car. The cops using them have to be well trained and very smart - if they miss they could hit an innocent person 2 miles away. To hit someone two miles away, they'd have to be lying prone on the ground using a ultra high powered sniper rifle like the Barrett M82, which weighs almost 15kg, has a range of almost 2km and can put a bullet through an engine block.

No - even an old .303 from WW1 can fire a bullet 7 miles
if it is fired at 45 degrees.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 12:02pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 11:57am: Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:55am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:53am: Gordon wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:14am: Better to have one at each station with an officer with training on duty at all times. No, that’s pointless. Why have them if you’re not going to put them where they are needed. If something happens that necessitates the use of a long gun and the have to wait for it to be retrieved from a station, it’s already too late. If the cops decide to get them then every new officer needs to be trained and proficient in their use and they need to be in every single cop car. The cops using them have to be well trained and very smart - if they miss they could hit an innocent person 2 miles away. To hit someone two miles away, they'd have to be lying prone on the ground using a ultra high powered sniper rifle like the Barrett M82, which weighs almost 15kg, has a range of almost 2km and can put a bullet through an engine block. No - even an old .303 from WW1 can fire a bullet 7 miles if it is fired at 45 degrees.

Right...  :-?

It's the GUN that's the problem don't yas know.
That's why all Cops, Soldiers and even Farmers are out shooting everyone right now!
It's not Islam!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 4:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 12:02pm: No - even an old .303 from WW1 can fire a bullet 7 miles if it is fired at 45 degrees. Right...  :-?

Looks like I was wrong it's 1.7 miles - still a long way.


Google AI:

The claim that a .303 bullet from a WW1 rifle can travel 7 miles is a myth. The actual maximum range is significantly shorter, typically around 3,000 yards (1.7 miles) for the standard Mark VII ammunition used during that era.
The standard British service rifle during World War I was the Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE) Mk III, chambered for the .303 British cartridge.

Key facts about the range of this weapon:
Effective Firing Range: The distance at which a trained soldier could consistently hit a target was around 550 yards (503 meters).

Maximum Firing Range: The absolute farthest distance the bullet could potentially travel (when fired at an optimal angle for maximum distance, such as 45 degrees) was approximately 3,000 yards (about 2,743 meters, or 1.7 miles).

Volley Sights: The SMLE Mk III rifles were fitted with special long-range "volley sights" intended for indirect, company-level barrage fire at ranges out to 2,800 yards, which is consistent with the maximum range of the ammunition.

And trained officers would aim at 45º? ;)

If China, Mexico and Columbia can get massive shipments of illicit Drugs into this country.
They can surely get semi automatic weapons in as well.

Jasin wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 5:18pm:

If China, Mexico and Columbia can get massive shipments of illicit Drugs into this country. They can surely get semi automatic weapons in as well.

Yes and assuming that the Bondi arseholes were trained terrorists -
they would find a way to get black market firearms.

They can get explosives enough to fill a caravan

Jasin wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

They can get explosives enough to fill a caravan

It's scary - they have brought the Middle East wars to Australia.

Round them up.

The most likely rifle given to police in an urban situation would likely be in a 9mm. Steyr or simllar.

lee wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 5:34pm:

The most likely rifle given to police in an urban situation would likely be in a 9mm. Steyr or simllar.

Or maybe the AR-15  ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15%E2%80%93style_rifle


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Stag2wi_.jpg

Been telling yez since Sunday - M-4 in the boot.  Short, light weight, manageable in a tight spot, excellent sights, high rate of fire, selection between semi and full auto or three round burst, adequate range, choice of ammunition, ability to put rounds on target quickly and accurately. 

Shotgun as well.

Recruiting ex-military personnel is a good idea.

lee wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 5:34pm:

The most likely rifle given to police in an urban situation would likely be in a 9mm. Steyr or simllar.

Steyr is 5.56MM NATO round.

Let's not forget Holsworthy Barracks had over 50+ rifles, machine guns, ammo and grenades stolen. Reports of an inside job. They're still out there. ADF probably had civvy Moslems in security there.

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 6:02pm:

lee wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 5:34pm: The most likely rifle given to police in an urban situation would likely be in a 9mm. Steyr or simllar. Steyr is 5.56MM NATO round.

You are right. My error.  :-[

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 5:58pm:

Been telling yez since Sunday - M-4 in the boot.  Short, light weight, manageable in a tight spot, excellent sights, high rate of fire, selection between semi and full auto or three round burst, adequate range, choice of ammunition, ability to put rounds on target quickly and accurately.  Shotgun as well. Recruiting ex-military personnel is a good idea.

I see no reason for a trained officer to need auto fire capabilities. A shotgun has probably too short a range in that situation. But it does point to governments rhetoric about the number of firearms required for different circumstances, One calibre will not serve, adequately, different purposes.

Lefties here and our PM called Anus say it's the guns that are the problem.
Right now - guns of the Police, Military and Farmers are going off shooting people of their own accord!
Ban the guns. ;D

Jasin wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 7:11pm:

Lefties here and our PM called Anus say it's the guns that are the problem. Right now - guns of the Police, Military and Farmers are going off shooting people of their own accord! Ban the guns. ;D

Only the rope can save our society:


https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/c9/76/d6/c976d668e6d7b80f29182b39a7b52e51.gif

Over 1 million registered firearms in Australia.
An owner in Goulburn has over 300.
About 11 in Sydney Metro have 90 to 275 firearms each.

For some reason all these guns are not going off killing people.
Considering Bondi ,- where the Lefties are blaming the guns and not Islam and Muslims.

lee wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 7:02pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 5:58pm: Been telling yez since Sunday - M-4 in the boot.  Short, light weight, manageable in a tight spot, excellent sights, high rate of fire, selection between semi and full auto or three round burst, adequate range, choice of ammunition, ability to put rounds on target quickly and accurately.  Shotgun as well. Recruiting ex-military personnel is a good idea. I see no reason for a trained officer to need auto fire capabilities. A shotgun has probably too short a range in that situation. But it does point to governments rhetoric about the number of firearms required for different circumstances, One calibre will not serve, adequately, different purposes.

Tactically auto fire can serve to keep their heads down, and provide opportunity for tactical movement.  If they know they are up against something like that, their courage can desert them very quickly.  It's one thing to fire at people who cannot shoot back, but when they know they are up against a serious weapon in the hands of someone trained, they often suffer yellow pants.

Shotgun is better for close quarters... tends to pacify the area quickly. Also knocks door hinges out pretty well..

Both in the boot provide a choice of dominant weapons to suit the situation.

Pre-emptively, knowing police have those kinds of weapons on call tends to quiet down the planners.... prevention is better than cure.

The biggest problem is ensuring the security of weapons in cars.

IMHO, UAVs for police are the smart way to go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2JAgG9iZ8Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhGqfhiyqMI

NOTE: These videos are not current, mini drone technology has developed since then.

Stricter gun laws might help.

I find this all very depressing.
I always thought of Australia as place that people come to
as a sanctuary away from the horrors of the Middle East wars but
instead the wars have come here.
It seems that the Islamic State has succeeding in turning their ideas into a global war
and we are all now targets for their terrorism.
There seems to be no appetite to round up all the Islamic hate preachers
and the people who attend their daily lectures,
and our security agencies have dropped the ball.
We're exposed and vulnerable with no end in sight.

tallowood wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:01am:

IMHO, UAVs for police are the smart way to go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2JAgG9iZ8Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhGqfhiyqMI NOTE: These videos are not current, mini drone technology has developed since then.

Examples above show surveillance drones but UAVs also can be use as loitering munition with non-lethal stun grenades (flash/sound) or tear gas grenades or as taser equipment.

That was 11 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhrUxgfumqU

Expect the Mussos to use drone bombs in future attacks here.
They're cheaper than guns and can be used from little white vans blocks away with "Alu Ahkbar" coming from within.

Ban the Drones?
Not the Mussos.

Just you watch.

lee wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 5:17pm:

And trained officers would aim at 45º? ;)

According to Bobby - yes.

Officers are trained not to fire with human backdrops regardless of distance.

Jasin wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 11:06am:

Expect the Mussos to use drone bombs in future attacks here. They're cheaper than guns and can be used from little white vans blocks away with "Alu Ahkbar" coming from within. Ban the Drones? Not the Mussos. Just you watch.

Absolutely, after all ISIS in Syria were first to use small attack drones.

Australian police should learn not only to use drones but also anti drone techniques and tactics.

Jasin wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 11:27am:

Officers are trained not to fire with human backdrops regardless of distance.

The cops shot bystanders by mistake:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/the-hills/30k-compensation-offer-for-bystanders-injured-in-westfield-hornsby-police-shooting/news-story/8cf6f9f7e6fe9ea661d56fc7da0557bf

$30k compensation offer for bystanders injured in Westfield Hornsby police shooting
THE state government has offered up to $30,000 each to the three elderly women who were shot by police at Hornsby Mall.

Monique Cowper
less than 2 min read

June 10, 2016


THE three elderly women who were shot by police in Hornsby Mall yesterday have been offered $30,000 each by the State Government as part of the Victims of Crime scheme.

Hornsby state liberal MP Matt Kean told the Hornsby Advocate he had spoken to the Attorney General’s Department today to confirm that the women, aged between 60 and 80, were eligible for the assistance.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 11:51am:

Jasin wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 11:27am: Officers are trained not to fire with human backdrops regardless of distance. The cops shot bystanders by mistake: https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/the-hills/30k-compensation-offer-for-bystanders-injured-in-westfield-hornsby-police-shooting/news-story/8cf6f9f7e6fe9ea661d56fc7da0557bf $30k compensation offer for bystanders injured in Westfield Hornsby police shooting THE state government has offered up to $30,000 each to the three elderly women who were shot by police at Hornsby Mall. Monique Cowper less than 2 min read June 10, 2016 THE three elderly women who were shot by police in Hornsby Mall yesterday have been offered $30,000 each by the State Government as part of the Victims of Crime scheme. Hornsby state liberal MP Matt Kean told the Hornsby Advocate he had spoken to the Attorney General’s Department today to confirm that the women, aged between 60 and 80, were eligible for the assistance.

Jeez - I didn't know the counter-revolution against feminism had gone that far.. I always advocate peaceful means.... but this was a government false flag op to get hold of their houses for the market....

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 8:43am:

I'm surprised it's taken this long for a conversation to take place about this. Most cop cars in the US have a rifle locked in a cradle that can be accessed by an officer when more firepower is needed than just their service hand gun. Had those Police been given access to such guns prior to yesterday, the death toll may well have been significantly lower. https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/bondi-mass-shooting-live-updates-matildas-parents-speak-at-vigil/live-coverage/fd1a525bf7f029879461f5b96f64379a

Bollards & long rifles wouldn't be necessary if it wasn't for 2 issues - mass immigration of Muslims & Islamists.

And sure enough on yesterdays news authorities are are saying Sajid & Naveed Akram acted alone.....

the old Alpha Lone Wolf & the Lone Wolf cub.

Waddaloadabullshyte.

Predictable down playing of the extent of Islamist activism & the rise of anit-Semitism pushed by the Imam hate preachers in Islamic centres in Australia today.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:19am:

Stricter gun laws might help. I find this all very depressing. I always thought of Australia as place that people come to as a sanctuary away from the horrors of the Middle East wars but instead the wars have come here. It seems that the Islamic State has succeeding in turning their ideas into a global war and we are all now targets for their terrorism. There seems to be no appetite to round up all the Islamic hate preachers and the people who attend their daily lectures, and our security agencies have dropped the ball. We're exposed and vulnerable with no end in sight.

No it won't.  >:(

Police need a change of uniform for starters.
Blue is the colour of all things Medical, let alone Europe.
White is the colour of Law/Politics.
They should really be uniformed as Stormtroopers. :D

lee wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 5:34pm:

The most likely rifle given to police in an urban situation would likely be in a 9mm. Steyr or simllar.

The Steyr rifle uses a 5.56×45mm NATO round.

Just like when they were called troopers  :o

https://images.theconversation.com/files/413463/original/file-20210728-25-1y8kh9h.jpg

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2025 at 7:19am:

Stricter gun laws might help.

They'll definitely help, but they won't completely solve the problem.

We'll always have idiots like this who will manage to get their hands on guns.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/Martin_Bryant.jpg

https://vid.alarabiya.net/images/2021/03/13/e778ad64-2d3f-4297-8f34-e559b3c36d3f/e778ad64-2d3f-4297-8f34-e559b3c36d3f.JPG

But yeah, stricter laws will help.

Yes. Guns in the hands of ADF soldiers and Australian Police and Farmers are going off right now of their own accord killing hundreds of thousands of Australians.
...it's not Islam.

Jasin wrote on Dec 31^st, 2025 at 1:53pm:

Yes. Guns in the hands of ADF soldiers and Australian Police and Farmers are going off right now of their own accord killing hundreds of thousands of Australians. ...it's not Islam.

This certainly wasn't Islam:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/Martin_Bryant.jpg

https://vid.alarabiya.net/images/2021/03/13/e778ad64-2d3f-4297-8f34-e559b3c36d3f/e778ad64-2d3f-4297-8f34-e559b3c36d3f.JPG

One was bullied because he was 'very' White.
Probably called a White Supremacist Nazi for having blonde hair as a kid.

The other was because of Islam.

Both reactionary.

Jasin wrote on Dec 31^st, 2025 at 2:37pm:

One was bullied because he was 'very' White. Probably called a White Supremacist Nazi for having blonde hair as a kid. The other was because of Islam. Both reactionary.

JaSin the terrorist apologist.

Gnads wrote on Dec 31^st, 2025 at 11:56am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 8:43am: I'm surprised it's taken this long for a conversation to take place about this. Most cop cars in the US have a rifle locked in a cradle that can be accessed by an officer when more firepower is needed than just their service hand gun. Had those Police been given access to such guns prior to yesterday, the death toll may well have been significantly lower. https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/bondi-mass-shooting-live-updates-matildas-parents-speak-at-vigil/live-coverage/fd1a525bf7f029879461f5b96f64379a Bollards & long rifles wouldn't be necessary if it wasn't for 2 issues - mass immigration of Muslims & Islamists. And sure enough on yesterdays news authorities are are saying Sajid & Naveed Akram acted alone..... the old Alpha Lone Wolf & the Lone Wolf cub. Waddaloadabullshyte. Predictable down playing of the extent of Islamist activism & the rise of anit-Semitism pushed by the Imam hate preachers in Islamic centres in Australia today.

Firstly the talking heads on the tv and in our rotten to the core government are seemingly thrilled to bits to be rolling out 2500 armed to the teeth officers to keep Sydneysiders “safe” this New Years Eve.

Safe from what Anthony Albanese? Safe from what Chris Minns? Safe from what Krissy Barrett?

It’s not f***wits with poo tattoos you are armed to the teeth for, it’s your social cohesion, multicultural scam that has already gone way to far it’s cultures of people who hate us, hate the western world, want infidels dead and their women and children raped.
https://x.com/DeanMcCrae1/status/2006103692416803095


It is Islam. To keep us safe from Islam.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31^st, 2025 at 2:52pm:

Jasin wrote on Dec 31st, 2025 at 2:37pm: One was bullied because he was 'very' White. Probably called a White Supremacist Nazi for having blonde hair as a kid. The other was because of Islam. Both reactionary. JaSin the terrorist apologist.

No. You're wrong.
People like these two are reactionary to Islamic Terrorism being ignored by people like you and being called white supremacist Nazis for being blonde by people like you.
It's your fault.
Will you apologise?

WILL YOU APOLOGISE GWOGGY❓

Jasin wrote on Jan 1^st, 2026 at 11:02am:

WILL YOU APOLOGISE GWOGGY❓

Groggy is the greatest troll in Ozpolitic history -

he gets on the piss and he can't help himself.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 1^st, 2026 at 11:13am:

Jasin wrote on Jan 1st, 2026 at 11:02am: WILL YOU APOLOGISE GWOGGY❓ Groggy is the greatest troll in Ozpolitic history - he gets on the piss and he can't help himself.

I reckon he Cokes his nose for a gay twinkle

Jasin wrote on Jan 1^st, 2026 at 11:02am:

WILL YOU APOLOGISE GWOGGY❓

I'm terribly sorry that you're a terrorist sympathiser.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31^st, 2025 at 1:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18th, 2025 at 7:19am: Stricter gun laws might help. They'll definitely help, but they won't completely solve the problem. We'll always have idiots like this who will manage to get their hands on guns. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/Martin_Bryant.jpg https://vid.alarabiya.net/images/2021/03/13/e778ad64-2d3f-4297-8f34-e559b3c36d3f/e778ad64-2d3f-4297-8f34-e559b3c36d3f.JPG But yeah, stricter laws will help.

No they will not help.

They are adequately strict enough.

Those strict gun laws came in after Port Arthur & Martin Bryant.

The other bloke Tarrants shooting spree was in another country & that countries gun laws is not an Australian problem.

All it is doing is punishing law abiding Australian gun owners.

The 2 Bondi shooters were not really Australians & they certainly were not law abiding.

The failure & the fix is with the Albanese Govt, ASIO & the NSW Police Weapons licensing Branch.

But knee jerk reactionary LW deflection is all clowns like Albo, Minns  & you can come up with whilst you deliberately avoid dealing with the real issues.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31^st, 2025 at 2:52pm:

Jasin wrote on Dec 31st, 2025 at 2:37pm: One was bullied because he was 'very' White. Probably called a White Supremacist Nazi for having blonde hair as a kid. The other was because of Islam. Both reactionary. JaSin the terrorist apologist.

You hypocrite - that's what you're doing over the Bondi shooters .....

trying to blame someone/something else.

Gnads wrote on Jan 1^st, 2026 at 11:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2025 at 2:52pm: Jasin wrote on Dec 31st, 2025 at 2:37pm: One was bullied because he was 'very' White. Probably called a White Supremacist Nazi for having blonde hair as a kid. The other was because of Islam. Both reactionary. JaSin the terrorist apologist. You hypocrite - that's what you're doing over the Bondi shooters ..... trying to blame someone/something else.

Nope.

You've mistaken me for someone else.

I blame the two guys with the guns for the Bondi massacre.

Have done from day one.

It's others - like Jasin and Bobby - who have tried to blame religion.

They're terrorist apologists.

Gordon wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 9:14am:

Better to have one at each station with an officer with training on duty at all times.

When one is needed it’s usually immediately not 10 minutes away at the police station.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 9:53am:

Gordon wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:14am: Better to have one at each station with an officer with training on duty at all times. No, that’s pointless. Why have them if you’re not going to put them where they are needed. If something happens that necessitates the use of a long gun and the have to wait for it to be retrieved from a station, it’s already too late. If the cops decide to get them then every new officer needs to be trained and proficient in their use and they need to be in every single cop car.

Along with a shotgun for use when penetration of adjacent buildings is not desirable.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17^th, 2025 at 11:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:55am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:53am: Gordon wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:14am: Better to have one at each station with an officer with training on duty at all times. No, that’s pointless. Why have them if you’re not going to put them where they are needed. If something happens that necessitates the use of a long gun and the have to wait for it to be retrieved from a station, it’s already too late. If the cops decide to get them then every new officer needs to be trained and proficient in their use and they need to be in every single cop car. The cops using them have to be well trained and very smart - if they miss they could hit an innocent person 2 miles away. To hit someone two miles away, they'd have to be lying prone on the ground using a ultra high powered sniper rifle like the Barrett M82, which weighs almost 15kg, has a range of almost 2km and can put a bullet through an engine block.

Bobby is not talking about the accurate range but about the danger range.
The common and obsolete .303 British can kill at 2,500 metres if the person hit is unlucky.

Police do need to be well trained, particularly in the use of their pistols, current training is abysmal.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2026 at 11:43am:

Jasin wrote on Jan 1st, 2026 at 11:02am: WILL YOU APOLOGISE GWOGGY❓ I'm terribly sorry that you're a terrorist sympathiser.

Poor attempt to hide your support for terrorism behind me.
Your tactics are pathetic and I blame you for Martin Bryant coming into existence. Gays like you, need your rednecks like Bryant, Tarrant and Islam to justify your existence. You are both in the wrong. It's a Cain & Abel thing with you gays and rednecks.

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jan 4^th, 2026 at 2:55pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 11:57am: Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:55am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:53am: Gordon wrote on Dec 17th, 2025 at 9:14am: Better to have one at each station with an officer with training on duty at all times. No, that’s pointless. Why have them if you’re not going to put them where they are needed. If something happens that necessitates the use of a long gun and the have to wait for it to be retrieved from a station, it’s already too late. If the cops decide to get them then every new officer needs to be trained and proficient in their use and they need to be in every single cop car. The cops using them have to be well trained and very smart - if they miss they could hit an innocent person 2 miles away. To hit someone two miles away, they'd have to be lying prone on the ground using a ultra high powered sniper rifle like the Barrett M82, which weighs almost 15kg, has a range of almost 2km and can put a bullet through an engine block. Bobby is not talking about the accurate range but about the danger range. The common and obsolete .303 British can kill at 2,500 metres if the person hit is unlucky. Police do need to be well trained, particularly in the use of their pistols, current training is abysmal.

One mag on the range and they are put out on the streets.  I met a lovely young red-haired cop lady once as a security guy when I had to go to a station - a true CILF - and she blatantly told me she had no idea what to do with that pistol.  I just nodded and smiled - still a CILF ... at that time 'women's recruitment' was a beauty contest.  Nearly joined up meself for the fringe benefits...  "will  you come quietly, sir?"  .. not likely...

I hope they train the long arm people better.  I suggested they need to recruit ex-military types who can handle those weapons.

Maybe they should go for 9mms - but there are low velocity 5.56s, solid rounds and not the thin tipped 'frangible' rounds ... you want PRISONERS to interrogate in Gondwanamo Bay - not dead martyrs.  Pump 'em dry then turn 'em loose in Sandland with a public notification of names they gave up....

Working construction in the Carlingford upgrade to widen all the roads and streets from the horse-cart widths of old.
Five Polynesian robbers were on the run. Police sirens everywhere.
Gorgeous female cop and her male partner stopped to ask me and crew to report if we saw them and her gorgeous way asked us not to try and stop them ourselves. We just smiled and said "sure. Anything for you gorgeous 🥰"
My crew of beefcakes didn't get lucky. But four of the Polynesians were caught by another crew who roughed em up a bit, before calling in the police babes.  ;)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2026 at 12:04pm:

Gnads wrote on Jan 1st, 2026 at 11:59am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2025 at 2:52pm: Jasin wrote on Dec 31st, 2025 at 2:37pm: One was bullied because he was 'very' White. Probably called a White Supremacist Nazi for having blonde hair as a kid. The other was because of Islam. Both reactionary. JaSin the terrorist apologist. You hypocrite - that's what you're doing over the Bondi shooters ..... trying to blame someone/something else. Nope. You've mistaken me for someone else. I blame the two guys with the guns for the Bondi massacre. Have done from day one. It's others - like Jasin and Bobby - who have tried to blame religion. They're terrorist apologists.

You're being completely dishonest or disingenuous if you think their actions were not inspired by their religion.....

its' Holy Book verses & Haddiths as well as their Cleric hate preachers.

You are the apologist for radical Islamists.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2026 at 12:04pm:

Gnads wrote on Jan 1st, 2026 at 11:59am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2025 at 2:52pm: Jasin wrote on Dec 31st, 2025 at 2:37pm: One was bullied because he was 'very' White. Probably called a White Supremacist Nazi for having blonde hair as a kid. The other was because of Islam. Both reactionary. JaSin the terrorist apologist. You hypocrite - that's what you're doing over the Bondi shooters ..... trying to blame someone/something else. Nope. You've mistaken me for someone else. I blame the two guys with the guns for the Bondi massacre. Have done from day one. It's others - like Jasin and Bobby - who have tried to blame religion. They're terrorist apologists.

It's Islamic terrorists - you fool.    ::)

Gwoggy Gollum hiding behind the no accountability for lying upon an Online Forum unless he feels Freediver will permanently ban his arse.
We saw how Brian had to pull his head in with his trolling, when Setanta turned up the heat on him.
Gwoggy Gollum thinks he's right, because he can circumnavigate that accountability, but it's not a good look here for him.
It really confirms his weakness as a liar, but he loves getting away with that too.
Much like Anus the PM not having a Royal Commission on his arse for accountability.

Gwoggy Gollum is just a dodgy salesman selling a dodgy product.
I pity him. One can easily imagine what he is like as a person. I reckon a lot of personal tragedy comes his way in life. I can tell. He would sell out the Spartans to the Persians because, in the music industry - all that glitters, is gold.

Jasin wrote on Jan 6^th, 2026 at 12:50pm:

Gwoggy Gollum hiding behind the no accountability for lying upon an Online Forum unless he feels Freediver will permanently ban his arse. We saw how Brian had to pull his head in with his trolling, when Setanta turned up the heat on him. Gwoggy Gollum thinks he's right, because he can circumnavigate that accountability, but it's not a good look here for him. It really confirms his weakness as a liar, but he loves getting away with that too. Much like Anus the PM not having a Royal Commission on his arse for accountability. Gwoggy Gollum is just a dodgy salesman selling a dodgy product. I pity him. One can easily imagine what he is like as a person. I reckon a lot of personal tragedy comes his way in life. I can tell. He would sell out the Spartans to the Persians because, in the music industry - all that glitters, is gold.

Pecca is now using his MRB as a soap box for his opinions
with no right of reply - all locked.
It's a monologue - a bit like Hitler used to carry on with.   ::)

He's impersonating a former fraud President of Venezuela.  ;D
"Nah nah Nanna. You can't get me! :P " as he dances around like a Swiss Eurovision winner.

We would be safer with fewer guns in society, not more

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 6^th, 2026 at 1:54pm:

We would be safer with fewer guns in society, not more

Then kindly explain why the USA with more guns per head of population than any other country, has a much lower murder rate than countries that have much tougher gun laws and consequently much lower gun ownership.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 6^th, 2026 at 1:54pm:

We would be safer with fewer guns in society, not more

You're delusional.

Gun laws don't stop criminals.

Criminals are the ones committing crime with guns & any other weapons they can get their hands on.

Not law abiding Australian gun owners.

How about we take knives, machetes, baseball bats, axes, motor vehicles etc out of the equation for safety??? ::)

Murder by motor vehicle is very rarely mentioned.