ABC News channel, my recommended program explaining news “If You’re Listening” episode entitled “humanoids” explained several media history’s fake robot stories as well as present day robot technology failures.
     Below a website page containing 4 episodes Youtube files:

https://www.google.com/search?q=if+you%27re+listening+humanoids&aqs=chrome..69i57.17414j0j1&ie=UTF-8

     My prompting on this story came from my resent experiences contacting my NBN service provider, typing on the chat form right side bar. The first communication with my service provider had an introduction as a “AI bot”. I somewhat found my extensive typing replied communication as more human than robotic. I believe I was communicating with a live human based in some third world country.

     Ten or more years ago, I have witnessed ABC Catalyst program present far fetched technology stories one story being a presenter sitting in a motorised wheelchair controlled by his brain who wearing a skull cap holding electronic sensors. As he focused his attention on moving the wheelchair forwards he eventually starts talking which I’d think his lost focused attention would stop the wheelchair from moving forwards, I judged the story to be faked.

     It had been mentioned on a media program “Science is the new magic” as the the old Catholic Church controlled religious propaganda using extraordinary lies: purgatory; priest words sin forgiveness; life after death existence in a heaven; superstition; Earth was the centre of the universe which all planets including the sun moved around Earth. Because the church pretended to have all the answers believers felt less confused about life’s wonders, being consoled.

     AI is one more fantasy story children like to believe is real, that children age into adulthood whom continue to feel their childlike wonderland/Disney Land amazement feelings, I assume a belief that life gets better as life goes on.
     In reality technology has stalled that computer CPUs have come to end of advancement, CPUs aren’t getting any faster instead more actual CPU’s in single chip units increase speed providing software are designed to divide tasks into available numbers of CPUs recombining tasks into output data. My statement that software producers are paying Microsoft a percentage of profits and or a license fee to allow programs to be used without some Microsoft anti virus update program deleting unlicensed software. My point being that old domestic software with new looking appearances are the same old software using a limited number of CPUs.

     Listening to If You’re Listening host, Musk stating robots should look like humans, with all the failed attempts to make a human looking preforming robot, the entire idea of making robots are more propaganda transparent failure exposures people feel good when other people’s things fail, than intended seriousness.

     AI NASDAQ companies bubble futuristic moving forwards predictions fuels high school leavers to invest in time spent in college and universities borrowing money for increasing fees, moving forwards careers in high tech infrastructure verse being unemployed or manual labour fast food processor, forcing the self to pass school exams to attend higher education institutions, increased mental stress, self-programmed ADHD caused by forced hurrying task behaviours, self-medicating brains by focusing spare time attention on simple thinking competitive sports child-like emotional inner brain enthusiasm for brain chemical stimulation. Exampling USA population for: religions; sports; high percentage of population drug dependence; unexplained causes of mental depression, etc….
     Lack of thinking ability not only can’t realise people are being manipulated by lies, also when told people are being manipulated by lies do most people except ideas they didn’t (delude with brain chemical stimulation rewards) think up themselves, often waiting to be told by some trusted media organisation what to believe.

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May be AI is a misnomer and should be II as in Imitation Intelligence.

Having experienced testing the limits of ChatGPT in developing a market model, there's no doubt it's not artificial intelligence...

It's closer to 'Hyper-Google' managed by a large language model.

And to confirm that, ChatGPT ADMITS TO IT when pressed to explain why it should be considered artificial intelligence.

It confirms that the term AI is a marketing ploy, as it was quickly adopted by the public and captured the imagination.

Here is ChatGPT's own summary of the matter

Language Without Understanding Is Not Reasoning

A system that generates language by predicting statistically probable continuations of text does not possess intelligence, regardless of how fluent or coherent its output appears.

Reasoning requires the formation and manipulation of concepts, causal understanding, and intentional thought.

Intelligence requires awareness of meaning, the ability to justify conclusions, and the capacity to revise beliefs in light of evidence. A language model such as ChatGPT performs none of these functions.

It does not understand the symbols it produces, does not know what it asserts, and cannot distinguish truth from plausible linguistic structure.

It simulates the surface features of reasoning but lacks the internal mechanisms that constitute it. Therefore, it cannot pass any test that measures reasoning and intelligence together, because it has no access to meaning, no capacity for genuine inference, and no mind with which to think. Statistical mimicry is not intelligence.

Quote:

AI More Hoax Than Reality.

A lot of the poor mplimentations of AI available to us do give this impression. However the real thing well implimented is a huge concern but we can not get access to the real thing.

Give it time - non-visual robots already have the ability to influence people by playing on 'triggers' in people, and pretending to be real people with feelings etc.  Who knows what such things will be able to do in the wrong hands?  Could they take over cyber-bullying and drive kids and vulnerable people to suicide, as has occurred IRL??  Could they be used to recruit vulnerable people to terrorist groups?  To get vulnerable people to convert to being paedophile 'friends' or chop up their bodies?  Maybe persuade people to a political viewpoint?  To gain 'mind control' over the majority through repetition and insidious acceptance of the 'truth' "spoken" by robots?  Or simply to get people to part with money.

When Isaac Asimov created the I, Robot series, he included a very strict set of laws of robotics..... WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE IN PLACE OR IN PLAY - and like so very much of the cyberworld - the internet for example being without civilised constraint or any semblance of order and reason in its dissemination of information - AI/Robotic influencers/creators and so forth are at this moment OUT OF ANY CIVILISED CONTROL. Even worse - there are no valid controls anywhere on the horizon - only the blithe and already discredited idea of 'self-regulation' (which is why I pummeled Facebook on the tail of AlboCorps' moves to control kids online, and on top of several massive civil class actions costing BILLIONS - thus putting the fear of Odd Man Out into them).

AND that's just the non-visual 'artificial intelligences'!!

Visual cheats (sic) are a bit rough at the moment.... you can see through them ....(the first Terminators were easily spotted because they had crude, rubber skin, making them look fake and obvious, unlike the later, realistic T-800s which used living tissue over their metal endoskeletons and were nearly undetectable)  ...but give them time...

JFK once said that the free exchange of ideas was one of the foundations of a free society.... the internet has become  a haunted derelict palace where people are canceled, erased, and hunted to keep them silent, and the internet is currently nowhere near a free exchange of views as once posited for it ... how much worse will that become when robots without feelings come into play - either unguided or guided by ANYONE of any type?

I was offered a job doing 'verbalese' for non-visual bots ... I declined and chose instead to oppose AI.  I, Robot should never be allowed to become AYE, ROBOT!!

https://img.freepik.com/premium-photo/closeup-terminator-robot-with-glowing-red-eyes-cyberpunk-city_598743-1672.jpg

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 11^th, 2025 at 10:16pm:

Give it time - non-visual robots already have the ability to influence people by playing on 'triggers' in people, and pretending to be real people with feelings etc.  Who knows what such things will be able to do in the wrong hands?  Could they take over cyber-bullying and drive kids and vulnerable people to suicide, as has occurred IRL??  Could they be used to recruit vulnerable people to terrorist groups?  To get vulnerable people to convert to being paedophile 'friends' or chop up their bodies?  Maybe persuade people to a political viewpoint?  To gain 'mind control' over the majority through repetition and insidious acceptance of the 'truth' "spoken" by robots?  Or simply to get people to part with money. When Isaac Asimov created the I, Robot series, he included a very strict set of laws of robotics..... WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE IN PLACE OR IN PLAY - and like so very much of the cyberworld - the internet for example being without civilised constraint or any semblance of order and reason in its dissemination of information - AI/Robotic influencers/creators and so forth are at this moment OUT OF ANY CIVILISED CONTROL. Even worse - there are no valid controls anywhere on the horizon - only the blithe and already discredited idea of 'self-regulation' (which is why I pummeled Facebook on the tail of AlboCorps' moves to control kids online, and on top of several massive civil class actions costing BILLIONS - thus putting the fear of Odd Man Out into them). AND that's just the non-visual 'artificial intelligences'!! Visual cheats (sic) are a bit rough at the moment.... you can see through them ....(the first Terminators were easily spotted because they had crude, rubber skin, making them look fake and obvious, unlike the later, realistic T-800s which used living tissue over their metal endoskeletons and were nearly undetectable)  ...but give them time... JFK once said that the free exchange of ideas was one of the foundations of a free society.... the internet has become  a haunted derelict palace where people are canceled, erased, and hunted to keep them silent, and the internet is currently nowhere near a free exchange of views as once posited for it ... how much worse will that become when robots without feelings come into play - either unguided or guided by ANYONE of any type? I was offered a job doing 'verbalese' for non-visual bots ... I declined and chose instead to oppose AI.  I, Robot should never be allowed to become AYE, ROBOT!!

'AI' assisting you with your hyper-typing, I see!

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11^th, 2025 at 10:40pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 11th, 2025 at 10:16pm: Give it time - non-visual robots already have the ability to influence people by playing on 'triggers' in people, and pretending to be real people with feelings etc.  Who knows what such things will be able to do in the wrong hands?  Could they take over cyber-bullying and drive kids and vulnerable people to suicide, as has occurred IRL??  Could they be used to recruit vulnerable people to terrorist groups?  To get vulnerable people to convert to being paedophile 'friends' or chop up their bodies?  Maybe persuade people to a political viewpoint?  To gain 'mind control' over the majority through repetition and insidious acceptance of the 'truth' "spoken" by robots?  Or simply to get people to part with money. When Isaac Asimov created the I, Robot series, he included a very strict set of laws of robotics..... WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE IN PLACE OR IN PLAY - and like so very much of the cyberworld - the internet for example being without civilised constraint or any semblance of order and reason in its dissemination of information - AI/Robotic influencers/creators and so forth are at this moment OUT OF ANY CIVILISED CONTROL. Even worse - there are no valid controls anywhere on the horizon - only the blithe and already discredited idea of 'self-regulation' (which is why I pummeled Facebook on the tail of AlboCorps' moves to control kids online, and on top of several massive civil class actions costing BILLIONS - thus putting the fear of Odd Man Out into them). AND that's just the non-visual 'artificial intelligences'!! Visual cheats (sic) are a bit rough at the moment.... you can see through them ....(the first Terminators were easily spotted because they had crude, rubber skin, making them look fake and obvious, unlike the later, realistic T-800s which used living tissue over their metal endoskeletons and were nearly undetectable)  ...but give them time... JFK once said that the free exchange of ideas was one of the foundations of a free society.... the internet has become  a haunted derelict palace where people are canceled, erased, and hunted to keep them silent, and the internet is currently nowhere near a free exchange of views as once posited for it ... how much worse will that become when robots without feelings come into play - either unguided or guided by ANYONE of any type? I was offered a job doing 'verbalese' for non-visual bots ... I declined and chose instead to oppose AI.  I, Robot should never be allowed to become AYE, ROBOT!! 'AI' assisting you with your hyper-typing, I see!

Not at all.... I use a keyboard... so you call that 'AI'?  This could be an interesting discussion.  A keyboard is a dumb animal which responds precisely to input...... a peripheral to a moron which understands yes/no.

Do go on.....

As much as he tech industry encourages those who get the collywobbles about 'AI' influencing human behaviour, 'AI' or, more accurately, 'Hyper-Google With LLM', is extremely vulnerable to influence itself.

Try it out.

Wait until your favourite 'AIs' spit up garbage about any given subject.

Strongly affirm that what you're reading is high-quality information.

Then ask them further questions that direct it towards factual absurdities... and... see how they run!!

The Beatles reference was used advisedly. I tried it with the origin of the Beatles' lyrics to 'Eleanor Rigby'... I had ChaGPT on a hallucigenic magical mystery tour!

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 11^th, 2025 at 10:43pm:

Not at all.... I use a keyboard... so you call that 'AI'?  This could be an interesting discussion.  A keyboard is a dumb animal which responds precisely to input...... a peripheral to a moron which understands yes/no. Do go on.....

Sure Graps.... You'd be incapable of writing a shopping list without a heap 'n helping of double... triple... ellipses ........... Sad!

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11^th, 2025 at 10:53pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 11th, 2025 at 10:43pm: Not at all.... I use a keyboard... so you call that 'AI'?  This could be an interesting discussion.  A keyboard is a dumb animal which responds precisely to input...... a peripheral to a moron which understands yes/no. Do go on..... Sure Graps.... You'd be incapable of writing a shopping list without a heap 'n helping of double... triple... ellipses ........... Sad!

Stay off the sauce, sonny - you're rambling.  I just wrote one of the most penetrating analyses of the impending AI 'revolution', without any auto correct or anything else.  The internet is just a letter to the world.... not a controller of every word.  You are really delusional.
Look - we all know you - you just love to try to break down discussion, exactly as I said about young dorks online and the failed castle concept I posted there.  Being incapable of adult discussion you rely entirely on bombast and BS.

When you're gone I'll re-post that learned dissection of mine for those with some true mind.

"Intelligence requires awareness of meaning, the ability to justify conclusions, and the capacity to revise beliefs in light of evidence."

Raw intelligence requires none of those things - it only requires the ability to BE - to exist. 

All those things you speak of are learned intelligence based on experience and interaction.  Those last are lacking in AI.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 11^th, 2025 at 10:57pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2025 at 10:53pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 11th, 2025 at 10:43pm: Not at all.... I use a keyboard... so you call that 'AI'?  This could be an interesting discussion.  A keyboard is a dumb animal which responds precisely to input...... a peripheral to a moron which understands yes/no. Do go on..... Sure Graps.... You'd be incapable of writing a shopping list without a heap 'n helping of double... triple... ellipses ........... Sad! Stay off the sauce, sonny - you're rambling.  I just wrote one of the most penetrating analyses of the impending AI 'revolution', without any auto correct or anything else.  The internet is just a letter to the world.... not a controller of every word.  You are really delusional. Look - we all know you - you just love to try to break down discussion, exactly as I said about young dorks online and the failed castle concept I posted there.  Being incapable of adult discussion you rely entirely on bombast and BS. When you're gone I'll re-post that learned dissection of mine for those with some true mind.

That one highlighted line writes the book on your own self-delusion!

At least you didn't break into 'German' this time!

You're mistaking discussion for the responses of those who'd humour you and indulge you in your self-delusion.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 11^th, 2025 at 11:04pm:

"Intelligence requires awareness of meaning, the ability to justify conclusions, and the capacity to revise beliefs in light of evidence." Raw intelligence requires none of those things - it only requires the ability to BE - to exist.

So, a cockroach is intelligent, then?

AI is much like the Media narrative has been since 1920's - a false reality. A lie. A hoax. A crime.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11^th, 2025 at 11:26pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 11th, 2025 at 11:04pm: "Intelligence requires awareness of meaning, the ability to justify conclusions, and the capacity to revise beliefs in light of evidence." Raw intelligence requires none of those things - it only requires the ability to BE - to exist.  So, a cockroach is intelligent, then?

Indeed it is!  Like you, within the bonds of its capabilities.  You are mistaking basic intelligence and a created and crafted mind - an Intellect.

Would you say, for example - that humans are more intelligent about flying that birds, or about swimming than dolphins?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11^th, 2025 at 11:09pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 11th, 2025 at 10:57pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2025 at 10:53pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 11th, 2025 at 10:43pm: Not at all.... I use a keyboard... so you call that 'AI'?  This could be an interesting discussion.  A keyboard is a dumb animal which responds precisely to input...... a peripheral to a moron which understands yes/no. Do go on..... Sure Graps.... You'd be incapable of writing a shopping list without a heap 'n helping of double... triple... ellipses ........... Sad! Stay off the sauce, sonny - you're rambling.  I just wrote one of the most penetrating analyses of the impending AI 'revolution', without any auto correct or anything else.  The internet is just a letter to the world.... not a controller of every word.  You are really delusional. Look - we all know you - you just love to try to break down discussion, exactly as I said about young dorks online and the failed castle concept I posted there.  Being incapable of adult discussion you rely entirely on bombast and BS. When you're gone I'll re-post that learned dissection of mine for those with some true mind. That one highlighted line writes the book on your own self-delusion! At least you didn't break into 'German' this time! You're mistaking discussion for the responses of those who'd humour you and indulge you in your self-delusion.

There are NONE who 'humour' me - those who read and understand what I write do not feel the need to heap praise or to receive it.  You mistake your own desperate need to feel 'wanted' with the way everyone is when exercising reality via their intellect.  All of those who take the 'popular line' fed to them by media and social covens - the wafflers - suffer that inability to stand aside from their own personal failings and look at hard realities.

You, of course, are slightly worse - you actually have some delusion of your own capabilities, when it is clear you can't hold a discussion... look at the infantile way you are trying to go about this one....

After AlboGroup resolve how to keep the under 16s under control and out of social media - they'll start on the mentally deficient - those who can be described as 'children in an adult suit' ... the kind who parrot nonsense and use personal sledging as their chosen way of 'discussion' - you are one of those, and you're making no headway with me.

The facts still remain - AI carries serious dangers for the weaker-minded and essentially child-like such as yourself - and must therefore be brought under far greater control than 'self-regulation' by the very cowboys who are creating and utilising it..

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 11^th, 2025 at 10:57pm:

I just wrote one of the most penetrating analyses of the impending AI 'revolution'

BTW, when using 'AI' like ChatGPT, one of your first instructions should be to forbid it from returning vacuous praise/flatery, like the above.

Part of its training is to heap praise on most statements you make, which locks you into believing what it subsequently returns... a way of suspending your incredulity, by appealing to your vanity.

So, don't risk making a fool of yourself by parroting 'AI' flatery... shut it down before it starts.