It dawned on me at a business meeting.

About a dozen other business owners were there and every one was upbeat ,Optomistic, energized, feeling a great vibe.

Of course this is going to result in a feeling of personal power and agency.

You see the government as a bit of an obstacle but mainly irrelevant.

Then I thought about the media and the public service.

They just see problems, catastrophic events, losers , leaners, whingebags, complainers, criminals, problems, fires, car accidents , all day long.

Of course that's going to make you feel sad and weak and you are going to look towards some hero in Canberra to save you comfort you and lead you.

The government can only be seen as a saviour to people who are feeling yucky. Awesome conservatives don't need them

Big government and leftie ideology is the natural home of the loser and the media and public service are in total sync with losers and failire

This all started in the 1960s. Leftist ideology centred around opposition the Vietnam war began to take hold in the universites, but it was looked at as a passing fad, one the would lose ground once the war ended.
Throughout the next decades the majority got on with their lives and gave little thought to these ratbag leftys who popped up occasionally spruiking some rubbish or other. The were to be laughed at or ignored.

However during this time these same leftys were slowly but surely making their way through politics, the media, the public service, business and most critically, the schools and universities.  Suddenly we, the majority looked up and these people were now in positions of power and influence and busy reshaping Australia in their hard left/globalist image.

So today we, the 'conservative'  majority - now branded 'far right' by the government, are the rebels and the troublemakers who need to be controlled - for our own good of course....

FOX news are lefties ????

Thats just silly.

Murdoch and co have put dozens of righty nutter governments in power over many decades accross much of the world.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 1^st, 2025 at 7:25pm:

FOX news are lefties ???? Thats just silly. Murdoch and co have put dozens of righty nutter governments in power over many decades accross much of the world.

No one mentioned Fox News but you.

It's you that's silly.

Gnads wrote on Dec 1^st, 2025 at 7:36pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:25pm: FOX news are lefties ???? Thats just silly. Murdoch and co have put dozens of righty nutter governments in power over many decades accross much of the world. No one mentioned Fox News but you. It's you that's silly.

You miss the title - the media. Fox is a world leader of Media and by far the most politically active media company going to the extent of driving world wide right wing media propoganda.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 1^st, 2025 at 7:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:36pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:25pm: FOX news are lefties ???? Thats just silly. Murdoch and co have put dozens of righty nutter governments in power over many decades accross much of the world. No one mentioned Fox News but you. It's you that's silly. You miss the title - the media. Fox is a world leader of Media and by far the most politically active media company going to the extent of driving world wide right wing media propoganda.

Yeah nah it doesn't work that way puddleduck.

The left will be the downfall of the planet.

Gnads wrote on Dec 1^st, 2025 at 7:43pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:41pm: Gnads wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:36pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:25pm: FOX news are lefties ???? Thats just silly. Murdoch and co have put dozens of righty nutter governments in power over many decades accross much of the world. No one mentioned Fox News but you. It's you that's silly. You miss the title - the media. Fox is a world leader of Media and by far the most politically active media company going to the extent of driving world wide right wing media propoganda. Yeah nah it doesn't work that way puddleduck. The left will be the downfall of the planet.

OH I see it isn't about facts its just about political bias. It doesn't have to be true if you like it.

Gnads wrote on Dec 1^st, 2025 at 7:43pm:

Yeah nah it doesn't work that way puddleduck

true, they're more a propaganda firm then a media firm, but nevertheless, they sell themselves off as media :D

Belgarion wrote on Dec 1^st, 2025 at 6:32pm:

This all started in the 1960s. Leftist ideology centred around opposition the Vietnam war began to take hold in the universites, but it was looked at as a passing fad, one the would lose ground once the war ended. Throughout the next decades the majority got on with their lives and gave little thought to these ratbag leftys who popped up occasionally spruiking some rubbish or other. The were to be laughed at or ignored. However during this time these same leftys were slowly but surely making their way through politics, the media, the public service, business and most critically, the schools and universities.  Suddenly we, the majority looked up and these people were now in positions of power and influence and busy reshaping Australia in their hard left/globalist image. So today we, the 'conservative'  majority - now branded 'far right' by the government, are the rebels and the troublemakers who need to be controlled - for our own good of course....

This is a good point.
Mao Stalin Hitler all realized you had to indoctrinate the kids.
China indoctrinated them to be patriotic and build businesses.
The west indoctrinate them to hate Captain Cook Churchill,their flag and to love gazan terrorists and Scandinavian autistic chicks who talk crap about the climate

aquascoot wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2025 at 5:08am:

The west indoctrinate them to hate Captain Cook Churchill, their flag and to love gazan terrorists and Scandinavian autistic chicks who talk crap about the climate

And the West encourages poofterism.



Non-binary people see lower insurance premiums in ‘staggering’ loophole


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_X52zZddEw

Belgarion wrote on Dec 1^st, 2025 at 6:32pm:

This all started in the 1960s. Leftist ideology centred around opposition the Vietnam war began to take hold in the universites, but it was looked at as a passing fad, one the would lose ground once the war ended. Throughout the next decades the majority got on with their lives and gave little thought to these ratbag leftys who popped up occasionally spruiking some rubbish or other. The were to be laughed at or ignored. However during this time these same leftys were slowly but surely making their way through politics, the media, the public service, business and most critically, the schools and universities.  Suddenly we, the majority looked up and these people were now in positions of power and influence and busy reshaping Australia in their hard left/globalist image. So today we, the 'conservative'  majority - now branded 'far right' by the government, are the rebels and the troublemakers who need to be controlled - for our own good of course....

https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2010/11/bathroomv.jpg

Gnads wrote on Dec 1^st, 2025 at 7:43pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:41pm: Gnads wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:36pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:25pm: FOX news are lefties ???? Thats just silly. Murdoch and co have put dozens of righty nutter governments in power over many decades accross much of the world. No one mentioned Fox News but you. It's you that's silly. You miss the title - the media. Fox is a world leader of Media and by far the most politically active media company going to the extent of driving world wide right wing media propoganda. Yeah nah it doesn't work that way puddleduck. The left will be the downfall of the planet.

You know that's just the equivalent of you sticking your fingers in your ears. Murdoch media has been by far the most influential media source for decades. Continues to be. Especially in Australia.

Even the commercial stations in Australiaa lean right. That's why your so furous with the ABC and SBS. The tell the truth without pandering to your never-ending rage.

mothra wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2025 at 6:24am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:43pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:41pm: Gnads wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:36pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:25pm: FOX news are lefties ???? Thats just silly. Murdoch and co have put dozens of righty nutter governments in power over many decades accross much of the world. No one mentioned Fox News but you. It's you that's silly. You miss the title - the media. Fox is a world leader of Media and by far the most politically active media company going to the extent of driving world wide right wing media propoganda. Yeah nah it doesn't work that way puddleduck. The left will be the downfall of the planet. You know that's just the equivalent of you sticking your fingers in your ears. Murdoch media has been by far the most influential media source for decades. Continues to be. Especially in Australia. Even the commercial stations in Australiaa lean right. That's why your so furous with the ABC and SBS. The tell the truth without pandering to your never-ending rage.

In your leftoid dreams they do.

https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2010/11/bathroomv.jpg

You long for the day when you can report your neighbours for anti-government comments. You will make a fine Block Warden in the leftist dystopia.

aquascoot wrote on Dec 1^st, 2025 at 5:42pm:

It dawned on me at a business meeting.

Oh no - aqua and his 'personal responsibility' maantra, while democracy itself is increasingly unstable because governments are being forced to practice "austerity", and people don't understand why.


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About a dozen other business owners were there and every one was upbeat ,Optomistic, energized, feeling a great vibe.

Yes, great feeling, like AI execs who are becoming instant billionaires while average wage people who work to keep the community functioning are subjected to austerity.

Note: this is not 'jealously", it's an observation of current Neoclassical -ideology-imposed economic reality.


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Of course this is going to result in a feeling of personal power and agency. You see the government as a bit of an obstacle but mainly irrelevant. Then I thought about the media and the public service.

Your capacity for intelligent anaylsis is so compromised by your 'superior man' exercising personal responsibility ideation you are not qualified to pontificate on the media and the public service.

The government's  role is to ensure vital social needs, including employment,  can be accessed by everyone.   

Personal responsibility is only half the picture affecting the community; the other half is the macroeconomy which is the governement's role to promte the conmmunity's  prosperity.


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They just see problems, catastrophic events, losers , leaners, whingebags, complainers, criminals, problems, fires, car accidents , all day long.

Yes, the media is mostly low-grade sensantionalism ("how does if feel to lose your house") , they should be examining the good work in the world - and asking why governments are imposing austerity on average income earners.


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Of course that's going to make you feel sad and weak and you are going to look towards some hero in Canberra to save you comfort you and lead you.

Refuted above; Canberra is needed to ensure the economy functions properly
Whether they achieve it is another story. 

'It's the economy" stupid" - the macroeconomy that is, while billionaires can look after themselves. 


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The government can only be seen as a saviour to people who are feeling yucky. Awesome conservatives don't need them

Awesome Conservatives?

We'll see how the MAGA 'awesome conservatives' vote in the midterms in the US, after Trump has hurt many of them.  


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Big government and leftie ideology is the natural home of the loser and the media and public service are in total sync with losers and failire

Your inadequate narrative exposed above.

mothra wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2025 at 6:24am:

Murdoch media has been by far the most influential media source for decades. Continues to be. Especially in Australia.

that was the whole basis for rupert taking his own kids to court. He wanted his right wing nutter son to control it all because he was afraid his more centrist kids might not push the rights agenda as much if control was shared between them. It only cost him $1B each child to ensure they stayed out of murdoch medias decision making.

mothra wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2025 at 6:24am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:43pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:41pm: Gnads wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:36pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 7:25pm: FOX news are lefties ???? Thats just silly. Murdoch and co have put dozens of righty nutter governments in power over many decades accross much of the world. No one mentioned Fox News but you. It's you that's silly. You miss the title - the media. Fox is a world leader of Media and by far the most politically active media company going to the extent of driving world wide right wing media propoganda. Yeah nah it doesn't work that way puddleduck. The left will be the downfall of the planet. You know that's just the equivalent of you sticking your fingers in your ears. Murdoch media has been by far the most influential media source for decades. Continues to be. Especially in Australia. Even the commercial stations in Australiaa lean right. That's why your so furous with the ABC and SBS. The tell the truth without pandering to your never-ending rage.

How is this influence evident? Why do people pay for News publications when they can get the ABC FREE?

why isn't the ABC as influential, in your view?

After the 75 election Daily Telegraph writers admitted that they had acted improperly and its only gotten worse, much much worse.

Frank wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2025 at 5:37am:

How is this influence evident? Why do people pay for News publications when they can get the ABC FREE? why isn't the ABC as influential, in your view?

There have been a series of Australian elections where it has been very even or Labor have been in front leading into an election and then the manic news ltd media campaign over the last weeks of the election has delivered a solid conservative win - time after time - again and again. Late media camaigns often dishonest have produced late election swings always in the same media driven direction.