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General Discussion >> America >> Trump cancels Bidens autopen EOs and Pardons http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1764421551 Message started by Baronvonrort on Nov 29th, 2025 at 11:05pm |
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Title: Trump cancels Bidens autopen EOs and Pardons Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 29th, 2025 at 11:05pm
The law is clear on this Executive orders and Pardons must be signed personally by the President the autopen isn't valid.
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Every executive order and pardons Trump signed was witnessed and on video with media present. I think this should be the case with every EO and Pardon there is enough media hanging around the White House to witness and video this happening. The Autopen signing these documents while Joe was having an afternoon nap with no witnesses is clear case of fraud. |
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Title: Re: Trump cancels Bidens autopen EOs and Pardons Post by Leroy on Nov 29th, 2025 at 11:59pm
Let me guess, the left are going to go ballistic.
Who's first, John or maybe sadroo. |
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Title: Re: Trump cancels Bidens autopen EOs and Pardons Post by Jasin on Nov 30th, 2025 at 12:16am
Sums up the entire Biden term, let alone how he became President in the first place.
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Title: Re: Trump cancels Bidens autopen EOs and Pardons Post by Karnal on Nov 30th, 2025 at 1:49am Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 29th, 2025 at 11:05pm:
Right. So show us the law on this And when you've done that, show us how your DL gets away with his Autopen use. Cheers. |
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Title: Re: Trump cancels Bidens autopen EOs and Pardons Post by John Smith on Nov 30th, 2025 at 7:35am
Trump will cry when they cancel his EO's and pardons :D :D :D
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Title: Re: Trump cancels Bidens autopen EOs and Pardons Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 30th, 2025 at 9:31am Karnal wrote on Nov 30th, 2025 at 1:49am:
Oh look, Baron's gone. |
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Title: Re: Trump cancels Bidens autopen EOs and Pardons Post by Armchair_Politician on Dec 1st, 2025 at 9:40am
Trump doesn't even know who he has pardoned in at least one case...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/03/trump-changpeng-zhao-cz-pardon-crypto |
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Title: Re: Trump cancels Bidens autopen EOs and Pardons Post by Frank on Dec 1st, 2025 at 9:49am |
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Title: Re: Trump cancels Bidens autopen EOs and Pardons Post by tallowood on Dec 1st, 2025 at 10:13am |
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Title: Re: Trump cancels Bidens autopen EOs and Pardons Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 1st, 2025 at 10:21am |
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Title: Re: Trump cancels Bidens autopen EOs and Pardons Post by ProudKangaroo on Dec 1st, 2025 at 10:48am Leroy wrote on Nov 29th, 2025 at 11:59pm:
A bit light on attention today, Leroy? The thread title is deliberately misleading, he hasn't cancelled anything. He's simply as desperate for attention as you are right now. It's also highly doubtful he even has the legal authority to do it. The use of an autopen, or similar device, by US presidents has a long and uncontroversial history. Past presidents, including Barack Obama, Thomas Jefferson and others, used them without issue. There is no constitutional requirement that pardons or most executive actions be personally hand-signed by the president to be valid. And pardons in particular are a brick wall for him: once granted and accepted, they're traditionally considered final and irrevocable. There's no recognised legal mechanism that allows a later president to nullify them because of the signature method. Trump should be thankful for that. One 1869 court ruling is repeatedly cited: once a pardon is complete, there is no power to revoke it, regardless of how it was signed. So this whole thing is a nothing story cooked up by a President whose polling numbers are in freefall, who's drowning in scandals, from his entanglements with child sex traffickers and he protecting of them (and/or himself) by supressing and redacting the Epstein files, to ignoring lawful court orders that led to the injurry and deaths of US soldiers, to his visibly declining health, and who is desperate for something, anything, to spin as a win and whip the deplorables back into a frenzy. And as we can see with the reactions from the usual suspect, it's working, and they won't care that he can't legally do any of this. It's presidential cope, dribbling down his leg to the MAGA faithful who've been copping a relentless barrage of losses lately, which makes this even funnier, because by design, it's already a loss unless he breaks the law. Again. |
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Title: Re: Trump cancels Bidens autopen EOs and Pardons Post by Bobby. on Dec 1st, 2025 at 11:01am Trump is winning so much - he's getting tired of winning. |
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Title: Re: Trump cancels Bidens autopen EOs and Pardons Post by ProudKangaroo on Dec 1st, 2025 at 11:20am Bobby. wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 11:01am:
He's already slinking away from his tariff chest-beating because the trade war he detonated, the workers he's expelled, and the cost-of-living surge he's deliberately engineered are all driving inflation, suffocating employment and, when combined with his record-shattering government spending, dragging the economy towards the cliff's edge. That's why he's scrambling to suppress all the October and quarterly reporting, desperate to keep the public from seeing the damage in cold print. It's not just Epstein he's trying to cover up anymore... "Winning" |
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Title: Re: Trump cancels Bidens autopen EOs and Pardons Post by tallowood on Dec 1st, 2025 at 11:48am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 10:21am:
Biden's right hand is in better condition then his brain. |
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Title: Re: Trump cancels Bidens autopen EOs and Pardons Post by John Smith on Dec 1st, 2025 at 12:43pm tallowood wrote on Dec 1st, 2025 at 10:13am:
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1764480003 |
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