This document from the QLD gov demands sexual assault victims be at the top of the triage list in QLD hospitals. "Within 10 minutes" would see them above cardiac patients. These people are not dying, traumatised, sure, give them a support person who is not an ED nurse and let the ED staff do what they do best, save lives.



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Minister issues directive to ensure compassionate care for sexual assault victims Health Minister Shannon Fentiman will issue a Ministerial Directive under the Hospital and Health Boards Act 2011. 26 reporting hospitals will be obligated to ensure women presenting at Emergency Departments requiring forensic examinations for sexual assault are seen within 10 minutes, where possible. It is the first time this power has been invoked. Queensland’s Health Minister will issue a Ministerial Directive to all Hospital and Health Services to ensure victims of sexual assault are seen by medical professionals within 10 minutes of presenting to hospital. https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/99175#:~:text=On%20November%2017%2C%202023%2C%20Health%20Minister%20Shannon,a%20timely%20manner%2C%2024%20hours%20a%20day

"where possible"

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2025 at 7:59pm:

"where possible"

I knew someone, like you, would pick that nit. Read the next.

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Queensland’s Health Minister will issue a Ministerial Directive to all Hospital and Health Services to ensure victims of sexual assault are seen by medical professionals within 10 minutes of presenting to hospital.

My youngest son works in ED and is at the front line of this. I'm asking because he has ignored the ministers directive to actually save lives. He doesn't like being put in the position of having to ignore pragmatic triage.

Edit: Beyond that, is ED be the best place to deal with what is not life threatening at top priority.

Setanta wrote on Oct 9^th, 2025 at 9:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2025 at 7:59pm: "where possible" I knew someone, like you, would pick that nit. Read the next. Quote: Queensland’s Health Minister will issue a Ministerial Directive to all Hospital and Health Services to ensure victims of sexual assault are seen by medical professionals within 10 minutes of presenting to hospital. My youngest son works in ED and is at the front line of this. I'm asking because he has ignored the ministers directive to actually save lives. He doesn't like being put in the position of having to ignore pragmatic triage. Edit: Beyond that, is ED be the best place to deal with what is not life threatening at top priority.

"where possible"

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2025 at 9:42pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 9th, 2025 at 9:34pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2025 at 7:59pm: "where possible" I knew someone, like you, would pick that nit. Read the next. Quote: Queensland’s Health Minister will issue a Ministerial Directive to all Hospital and Health Services to ensure victims of sexual assault are seen by medical professionals within 10 minutes of presenting to hospital. My youngest son works in ED and is at the front line of this. I'm asking because he has ignored the ministers directive to actually save lives. He doesn't like being put in the position of having to ignore pragmatic triage. Edit: Beyond that, is ED be the best place to deal with what is not life threatening at top priority. "where possible"

You've got nothing as usual. No thought, just buzz words.

Setanta wrote on Oct 9^th, 2025 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2025 at 9:42pm: Setanta wrote on Oct 9th, 2025 at 9:34pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2025 at 7:59pm: "where possible" I knew someone, like you, would pick that nit. Read the next. Quote: Queensland’s Health Minister will issue a Ministerial Directive to all Hospital and Health Services to ensure victims of sexual assault are seen by medical professionals within 10 minutes of presenting to hospital. My youngest son works in ED and is at the front line of this. I'm asking because he has ignored the ministers directive to actually save lives. He doesn't like being put in the position of having to ignore pragmatic triage. Edit: Beyond that, is ED be the best place to deal with what is not life threatening at top priority. "where possible" You've got nothing as usual. No thought, just buzz words.

Not buzz words - a direct quote from your link.

"where possible"

Ah ha, another quote from my link.
"ensure victims of sexual assault are seen by medical professionals within 10 minutes"

But as usual, not addressing the topic but finding nits. You'd make a fine chimp. I'm done with you.

Setanta wrote on Oct 9^th, 2025 at 10:07pm:

Ah ha, another quote from my link. "ensure victims of sexual assault are seen by medical professionals within 10 minutes"

"where possible"

Hi set
Yes my wife works at small hospital 22 beds 60 km from Brisbane.

I'm sure your son would agree it's hard to focus on the patients casualties were set up for because of system stupidity.

Cas should be for road trauma
Acute chest pains and strokes
Abdo pains from appendix or gall bladder or kidney stones.
Meningitis snake bites fractures lacerations
Blood clots, ectopic pregnancies
Shingles ,eye trauma. Pneumonia.

Instead,  and ask your son if he agrees, it is full of 90 yo dementia patients who families can't deal with any more or nursing homes are sick of. And who get dumped there, old fat diabetics with infected toes who never get better.
Old fat immobile people who can't toilet themselves.
20 yos with their 20th panic attack. Alcohol and drug addicts with mental health issues. Ndis patients who have run out of funding .
People wanting to be examined so they can get a piece of paper saying they are a DV  victim so they can use it in a custody dispute. Homeless people looking for a bed and 3square meals.

The staff get demoralised.
The government give all the power to the patients.
The tail wags the dog


And the genuine casualty patient waits 8 hrs to be seen and then can't be admitted because the wards are full of obese 80 yos who can't cope at home and lay about the hospital for 6 months waiting for a nursing home bed and then when they go there they don't like it. Discharge themselves. Go home and come back in through casualty.

Ask your son if he agrees  ;)

As for sexual Assault.
These cases take a lot of time to assess.
Swabs taken need to stand up in court. Photos need to be taken.

At my wife's hospital they dont see them fir that reason. They go to a bigger hospital which has a unit to do the job properly and document everything for the police.

Junior docs and young nurses don't have the expertise to do that sort of forensic work.
The minister is talking crapband he knows it.

You can't have an expert team on stand by at every tin pot hospital.
The police should direct victims to a specialised unit, not the local casualty.
PAH Logan and RBH in Brisbane. Big hospitals with such teams do this work.

"where possible"

Rape examinations
Children who need to be examined to see if they have been abused
Women in early pregnancy with miscarriages.
Mental health crisis .


Lazy politicians should not be expecting casualties which are usually full of the most junior doctors to deal with this.

Sure it's cheaper to say go to cas
And sure it's easy to say each group is the priority.

But politicians need to set up and fund a team with real expertise in each of these areas and direct cases there

More costly but better in the long run.

My wife tells me they already do this with miscarriages and child abuse.
Immediate triage to a private room and then the obstetrics or paediatrician comes with his team to deal with it.


To really free up cas, they need to have a separate  system for all the nursing home patients.
They need a team to go out to the nursing home or to the old persons home and treat them in place.


It is way too expensive and too upsetting to the confused old person to be in cas or a hospital.bed when they aren't getting acute care or operations and are just hanging about waiting for the social worker to find them a spot somewhere.

Hospital beds cost over 1000 a day.
Cheaper to put them up at the Marriott and pay for a nurse to visit them there3 times a day

aquascoot wrote on Oct 10^th, 2025 at 8:28am:

Rape examinations Children who need to be examined to see if they have been abused Women in early pregnancy with miscarriages. Mental health crisis . Lazy politicians should not be expecting casualties which are usually full of the most junior doctors to deal with this.

"where possible"

Quote:

"Within 10 minutes" would see them above cardiac patients.

Are you saying that hospitals will make someone having a heart attack wait ten minutes before being seen?

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2025 at 10:16am:

Quote: "Within 10 minutes" would see them above cardiac patients. Are you saying that hospitals will make someone having a heart attack wait ten minutes before being seen?

"where possible"

Define 'sexual assault'.....................

Now then - I'll do your homework for you again:-

"In Queensland, sexual assault is defined as sexual contact or activity without the freely given and voluntary consent of the other person, which can include unwanted sexual touching, rape, or being forced to perform or witness a sexual act. "

RAPE pure and simple fits somewhere in the middle - and remains THE lowest incidence crime in Australia.  Now we all know it is important to gather evidence as quickly as possible - just look at the Bruce of Canberra travesty 'case' - and the dire outcomes for everyone concerned now that justice has ground slowly and not too accurately along..... but much of that is statements and witnesses which in the case of NOT RAPE - can be gathered before examination is needed.

Let's consider the Bruce of Toowoomba 'case' - shagged him all night then shagged in the morning while mumbling while sleepy..  then let it go for weeks until she recognised who he was and decided to get on the band wagon and try to collect some ready... get a little kudos amongst the equally hysterical young of today and hope the crowd baying at the court doors for the blood of Men these days will force the court to 'convict' ......

This is hysteria and dog whistling again and chasing silly and unthinking votes, and there is no need to promote the hysteria of women these days in their pursuit of supremacy based on their absolute sense of entitlement drummed into them from birth.

There is clearly a NEED in Queenslund and the other honky states to have a separate category of RAPE and clear definitions or each 'sexual assault' category.  Lumping all under one umbrella is dangerous in many ways.

"Oooh - he patted me on the arse at a party while we were snoogling - I need to be admitted to emergency!!!"...  FFS...

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10^th, 2025 at 8:40am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 10th, 2025 at 8:28am: Rape examinations Children who need to be examined to see if they have been abused Women in early pregnancy with miscarriages. Mental health crisis . Lazy politicians should not be expecting casualties which are usually full of the most junior doctors to deal with this. "where possible"

I would imagine a lot of rape and child abuse cases fall over in court because a young intern dies the exam and doesn't record it properly in the notes.
Casualties are not the appropriate setting for these examinations.
It's no surprise gweggy doesn't care about rape victims and abused children and keeps posting

Where possible


Like a troll.

The politicians have a responsibility.
They used to have a police surgeon but scrapped that to save money and dumped it on casualty staff 🤔

aquascoot wrote on Oct 10^th, 2025 at 10:44am:

Casualties are not the appropriate setting for these examinations.

Where then?

If a woman has been raped late at night, or in the early hours of the morning, where does she go at 2 am for the examination?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10^th, 2025 at 10:51am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 10th, 2025 at 10:44am: Casualties are not the appropriate setting for these examinations. Where then? If a woman has been raped late at night, or in the early hours of the morning, where does she go at 2 am for the examination?

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Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Oct 10^th, 2025 at 11:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2025 at 10:51am: aquascoot wrote on Oct 10th, 2025 at 10:44am: Casualties are not the appropriate setting for these examinations. Where then? If a woman has been raped late at night, or in the early hours of the morning, where does she go at 2 am for the examination?

Where are cop shops open at 2 in the morning?

Most shut at 4 pm.

And how many have professional medical staff on hand?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10^th, 2025 at 10:51am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 10th, 2025 at 10:44am: Casualties are not the appropriate setting for these examinations. Where then? If a woman has been raped late at night, or in the early hours of the morning, where does she go at 2 am for the examination?

She should be taken to a tertiary hospital where a gynaecology registrar should come and examine her and take swabs properly and write up his findings so they stand up in court.

She should not be seen in casualty by a young intern who has never done a forensic examination and who will mess it up and affect her day in court.

Why does gweggy want to see women receive second class and inadequate treatment


Misogynistic creeper

aquascoot wrote on Oct 10^th, 2025 at 12:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2025 at 10:51am: aquascoot wrote on Oct 10th, 2025 at 10:44am: Casualties are not the appropriate setting for these examinations. Where then? If a woman has been raped late at night, or in the early hours of the morning, where does she go at 2 am for the examination? She should be taken to a tertiary hospital where a gynaecology registrar should come and examine her ...

Which hospitals have one rostered on 24 hours a day?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10^th, 2025 at 1:08pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 10th, 2025 at 12:51pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2025 at 10:51am: aquascoot wrote on Oct 10th, 2025 at 10:44am: Casualties are not the appropriate setting for these examinations. Where then? If a woman has been raped late at night, or in the early hours of the morning, where does she go at 2 am for the examination? She should be taken to a tertiary hospital where a gynaecology registrar should come and examine her ... Which hospitals have one rostered on 24 hours a day?

All city hospitals and regional hospital would have an obstetrics and gynae specialist and registrar rostered on or on call 24/7.

Who do you think delivers babies or deals with ruptured ovarian cysts or twisted ovaries or burst ectopic pregnancies at 2am on a Saturday night.

Sexual assault victims , just like women with severe bleeding and miscarrying at 2 am , should NOT be seen in cas by junior staff.
They should go to a separate unit or room and be seen by experts.

Shows how little these politicians and trolls like gweg understand  ::) ::)

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Oct 10th, 2025 at 11:12am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2025 at 10:51am: aquascoot wrote on Oct 10th, 2025 at 10:44am: Casualties are not the appropriate setting for these examinations. Where then? If a woman has been raped late at night, or in the early hours of the morning, where does she go at 2 am for the examination? Where are cop shops open at 2 in the morning? Most shut at 4 pm. And how many have professional medical staff on hand?

There are base stations open 24/7and there are mobile patrols.... they will refer and even transport accusers to appropriate facilities.

Let's make this clear - there are accusers and accused at this stage - not victim and perp.  To BE a victim requires evidence amounting to proof.