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Message started by Jovial Monk on Oct 8th, 2025 at 3:20pm

Title: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 8th, 2025 at 3:20pm

Quote:
The surgeons general – Jerome Adams, Richard Carmona, Joycelyn Elders, Vivek Murthy, Antonia Novello and David Satcher – who served under both Republican and Democrat administrations, identified changes in vaccine policy, medical research funding, a shift in priorities from rationality to ideology, plunging morale, and changes to staffing as areas of concern.

Referring to their oaths of office, both Hippocratic as physicians and as public servants, the former officials wrote in the Washington Post that they felt “compelled to speak with one voice to say that the actions of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. are endangering the health of the nation”.

“Never before have we issued a joint public warning like this. But the profound, immediate and unprecedented threat that Kennedy’s policies and positions pose to the nation’s health cannot be ignored,” they said, adding that they could not ignore the “profound, immediate and unprecedented threat” of his policies.

Under a “Make America Healthy Again” (Maha) agenda, Kennedy has accelerated vaccine policy changes despite opposition from scientists, including narrowing eligibility for Covid-19 vaccine shots and dismissing members of a vaccine advisory panel.

He has cut federal funding for mRNA vaccine research for respiratory illnesses and instituted a review of vaccine recommendations. Kennedy also sought the dismissal of Dr Susan Monarez, former head of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/07/us-surgeons-general-rfk

Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 8th, 2025 at 4:37pm

RFK may end up killing more people than Trump.

So sad to see this happening to the US.


Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 8th, 2025 at 4:41pm
Yeah. Sad.

Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 8th, 2025 at 5:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 4:37pm:
RFK may end up killing more people than Trump.

So sad to see this happening to the US.


I think it's entirely plausible RFK Jr may end up being responsible for more deaths than the 9/11 terrorist attacks because the damage caused by his decisions now will reverberate for years after he leaves his post.

Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 8th, 2025 at 5:16pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 5:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 4:37pm:
RFK may end up killing more people than Trump.

So sad to see this happening to the US.


I think it's entirely plausible RFK Jr may end up being responsible for more deaths than the 9/11 terrorist attacks because the damage caused by his decisions now will reverberate for years after he leaves his post.


Already kids are dying from measles!

Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by aquascoot on Oct 8th, 2025 at 5:31pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 5:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 4:37pm:
RFK may end up killing more people than Trump.

So sad to see this happening to the US.


I think it's entirely plausible RFK Jr may end up being responsible for more deaths than the 9/11 terrorist attacks because the damage caused by his decisions now will reverberate for years after he leaves his post.




Incorrect.

The vast majority of premature deaths in the USA are due to diabetes and vascular disease.
A country where the corrupt FDA, recommended sugar frosties as a more nutritous food then steak or eggs.

The result ?

Even in Australia a new diabetic diagnosed every 6 minutes, a diabetic amputation every hour, the vast  ,majority of the drug budget spent on blood pressure , diabetic and cholesterol tablets.
Obesity and overweight running at 70 %

JFK  is trying to end this scam, this grift, this rort.
If he can , he will SAVE millions of lives

Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by aquascoot on Oct 8th, 2025 at 5:37pm
Here’s a rundown of what Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.) is proposing/doing so far on the diet, exercise, and nutrition front in the U.S., along with some of the debates and critiques. If you like, I can also show what experts think of the proposals or how feasible they are.


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What RFK Jr.’s MAHA (Make America Healthy Again) Agenda Is Doing / Proposing

1. Simplifying Dietary Guidelines

RFK Jr., as the Secretary of Health and Human Services, is pushing for the Dietary Guidelines for Americans (which guide much of U.S. nutrition policy) to be short, clear, and more accessible—something like a 4-page document instead of a very long one.

The guidelines are to emphasize whole foods, rather than ultra-processed foods and additives.



2. Targeting “Ultra-Processed Foods”

RFK Jr. has called out ultra-processed foods (junk food, often sweetened, fatty, heavily processed) as major contributors to chronic disease, obesity, etc.

He plans to reduce their presence in federal nutrition programs, like SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program).



3. Removing Certain Additives and Synthetic Ingredients

There is a move to ban or restrict synthetic food dyes.

Revising standards for infant formula.



4. Increasing Nutrition Education / Training for Health Professionals

One of his key proposals is to embed more nutrition education in medical training—so doctors, residents, etc., have more competence in nutrition and lifestyle medicine.

Requesting that medical schools, residency programs, licensing boards, etc., adopt rigorous, measurable nutrition-training requirements.



5. Promoting Active Lifestyles / Exercise

RFK Jr. has indicated support for bringing back more fitness / physical activity components in schools and federal programs.

Also aims to update federal dietary guidance with complementary action to promote “healthy choices” and outcomes.



6. “Food Environment” and Structural Change

Implicit in many of the proposals is that it’s not just about telling people what to eat, but changing what people have access to (what’s on the shelves, what schools serve, what is subsidized, what is regulated).

Criticism of past involvement of food industry in influencing nutrition guidelines, and pledges to reduce that influence.







Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 8th, 2025 at 6:16pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 5:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 4:37pm:
RFK may end up killing more people than Trump.

So sad to see this happening to the US.


I think it's entirely plausible RFK Jr may end up being responsible for more deaths than the 9/11 terrorist attacks because the damage caused by his decisions now will reverberate for years after he leaves his post.


Absolutely.

He'll ultimately be responsible for many more deaths than 9/11.

Many, many more.

Like most other Trump appointees, he's a complete monster.




Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by Leroy on Oct 8th, 2025 at 6:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 6:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 5:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 4:37pm:
RFK may end up killing more people than Trump.

So sad to see this happening to the US.


I think it's entirely plausible RFK Jr may end up being responsible for more deaths than the 9/11 terrorist attacks because the damage caused by his decisions now will reverberate for years after he leaves his post.


Absolutely.

He'll ultimately be responsible for many more deaths than 9/11.

Many, many more.

Like most other Trump appointees, he's a complete monster.


Do you think if we sacrifice RFK to the gods we will have better crops next season?.

Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by Frank on Oct 8th, 2025 at 6:59pm

Leroy wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 6:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 6:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 5:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 4:37pm:
RFK may end up killing more people than Trump.

So sad to see this happening to the US.


I think it's entirely plausible RFK Jr may end up being responsible for more deaths than the 9/11 terrorist attacks because the damage caused by his decisions now will reverberate for years after he leaves his post.


Absolutely.

He'll ultimately be responsible for many more deaths than 9/11.

Many, many more.

Like most other Trump appointees, he's a complete monster.


Do you think if we sacrifice RFK to the gods we will have better crops next season?.


He'd soil his keyboard.

Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 8th, 2025 at 7:18pm

Leroy wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 6:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 6:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 5:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 4:37pm:
RFK may end up killing more people than Trump.

So sad to see this happening to the US.


I think it's entirely plausible RFK Jr may end up being responsible for more deaths than the 9/11 terrorist attacks because the damage caused by his decisions now will reverberate for years after he leaves his post.


Absolutely.

He'll ultimately be responsible for many more deaths than 9/11.

Many, many more.

Like most other Trump appointees, he's a complete monster.


Do you think if we sacrifice RFK to the gods we will have better crops next season?.


Don't be absurd. This is a serious discussion. He doesn't need to be sacrificed. He just needs to be fired. Out of a cannon.

Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by Karnal on Oct 11th, 2025 at 9:48pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 5:37pm:
Here’s a rundown of what Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.) is proposing/doing so far on the diet, exercise, and nutrition front in the U.S., along with some of the debates and critiques. If you like, I can also show what experts think of the proposals or how feasible they are.


---

What RFK Jr.’s MAHA (Make America Healthy Again) Agenda Is Doing / Proposing

1. Simplifying Dietary Guidelines

RFK Jr., as the Secretary of Health and Human Services, is pushing for the Dietary Guidelines for Americans (which guide much of U.S. nutrition policy) to be short, clear, and more accessible—something like a 4-page document instead of a very long one.

The guidelines are to emphasize whole foods, rather than ultra-processed foods and additives.



2. Targeting “Ultra-Processed Foods”

RFK Jr. has called out ultra-processed foods (junk food, often sweetened, fatty, heavily processed) as major contributors to chronic disease, obesity, etc.

He plans to reduce their presence in federal nutrition programs, like SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program).



3. Removing Certain Additives and Synthetic Ingredients

There is a move to ban or restrict synthetic food dyes.

Revising standards for infant formula.



4. Increasing Nutrition Education / Training for Health Professionals

One of his key proposals is to embed more nutrition education in medical training—so doctors, residents, etc., have more competence in nutrition and lifestyle medicine.

Requesting that medical schools, residency programs, licensing boards, etc., adopt rigorous, measurable nutrition-training requirements.



5. Promoting Active Lifestyles / Exercise

RFK Jr. has indicated support for bringing back more fitness / physical activity components in schools and federal programs.

Also aims to update federal dietary guidance with complementary action to promote “healthy choices” and outcomes.



6. “Food Environment” and Structural Change

Implicit in many of the proposals is that it’s not just about telling people what to eat, but changing what people have access to (what’s on the shelves, what schools serve, what is subsidized, what is regulated).

Criticism of past involvement of food industry in influencing nutrition guidelines, and pledges to reduce that influence.


Excuse me, I fail to see any statement in there on the treatment of gender-diverse children, Aquascoot.

What's the administration's policy on children going to school a boy and being sent home a girl?

Thoughts?



Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by Marla on Oct 12th, 2025 at 12:42am

Leroy wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 6:57pm:
Do you think if we sacrifice RFK to the gods we will have better crops next season?.



One thing is for certain: you will not have indoor plumbing in your Moscow apartment "next season."

Now run along and collect your daily rationed potato from Putin, Yuri. I mean, Peeroy

Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by Karnal on Oct 12th, 2025 at 12:54am

Marla wrote on Oct 12th, 2025 at 12:42am:

Leroy wrote on Oct 8th, 2025 at 6:57pm:
Do you think if we sacrifice RFK to the gods we will have better crops next season?.



One thing is for certain: you will not have indoor plumbing in your Moscow apartment "next season."

Now run along and collect your daily rationed potato from Putin, Yuri. I mean, Peeroy


One thing is for certain: Leroy's been watching the autistic savant, Sam Harris.

Who else would talk about sacrificing to the gods?

Maybe FD has a question. Sometimes he does.

You?

Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 12th, 2025 at 11:39am

'CDC is over': RFK Jr. lays off over 1,000 employees in Friday night massacre.

Amid the ongoing shutdown, the HHS secretary wiped out entire offices that investigate disease outbreaks, manage infectious disease responses and collect data.


Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 12th, 2025 at 11:56am
Jesus Christ!

I would hate to be an ordinary American right now! Health care to be priced out of reach, now the bodies that can protect against mass disease are gone.

How many will die in the next 2 years?

Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 12th, 2025 at 12:00pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12th, 2025 at 11:56am:
Jesus Christ!

I would hate to be an ordinary American right now! Health care to be priced out of reach, now the bodies that can protect against mass disease are gone.

How many will die in the next 2 years?


Exactly.

He's gonna kill tens of thousands of Americans.

So sad to see the rapid decline of the United States.

Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 12th, 2025 at 12:02pm
If coal fired power revives somewhat—more deaths from the pollution. Coal power is dirty.

Title: Re: Former Surgeons Generals warn re RFK
Post by Karnal on Oct 12th, 2025 at 8:10pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12th, 2025 at 12:02pm:
If coal fired power revives somewhat—more deaths from the pollution. Coal power is dirty.


Sure, but it triggers the leftards ever so, no?

Besides, the big fella calls it clean coal, or for the more politically correct, beautiful clean coal.

We've gotta have coal, he says. Those windmills are such eyesores. As Lee likes pointing out, look at all the CO2 emissions that go into making them.

Why must the left lie?

They could learn a thing or two from RFK Jnr, that's for sure. Thankfully, he took the time to explain the science on early circumcision and autism.

Rest assured, gents, he said. It's not the circumcisions that cause it, no. It's the Tylenol.

Yes, it's all those babies being dosed with painkillers. As DL says, you've gotta ride out the pain. Wise words indeed, no?

The big fella knows all about pain, that's for sure. Being forced to sit in a Manhattan courtroom for days on end was hell. It wasn't too nice for those sitting near him after the lunch break either.

Sure, the Big Pharma-funded fakes have all come out to complain, as they do. The American College of Pediatrics says Tylenol is never supposed to be administered to babies under three months. The Yanks give the chop within 48 hours of delivery, they say, so that settles that.

Look, what would some college of pediatrics know? RFK's been over the studies at length. If the US Secretary of Health doesn't know a thing or two about health, who does? He's totally unbiased on this. It's not like he has a financial incentive or anything.

Apart from his cut of all the Big Pharma class action lawsuits he's worked on, he's totally clean. The big fella only hires the best of the best. You can't trust doctors, everybody knows that.

TRIGGERED !!!

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