More conspiracy theories from Trump, RFK Jr. and "Dr" Oz.

Trump links autism to acetaminophen use during pregnancy, despite decades of evidence it’s safe

President Donald Trump announced Monday that the US Food and Drug Administration will notify doctors that the use of Tylenol during pregnancy can be associated with a “very increased risk of autism,” despite decades of evidence that it is safe.

“They are strongly recommending that women limit Tylenol use during pregnancy unless medically necessary,” such as to treat fever, “if you can’t tough it out,” Trump said.

Experts say there are multiple causes of autism, and the science showing a connection between autism and Tylenol is not settled.

It is absolutely crazy that they're pulling another Ivermectin to distract people from the Epstein files.

Again, lives will be put at risk at the whim of the President.

Utter insanity.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2025 at 11:44am:

It is absolutely crazy that they're pulling another Ivermectin to distract people from the Epstein files. Again, lives will be put at risk at the whim of the President. Utter insanity.

Yes, many lives will be put at risk and many women will suffer unnecessarily.

He is extremely dangerous.

"Trump did not keep his remarks to Tylenol during pregnancy. He advocated for breaking up childhood vaccinations and even pushing back the hepatitis B shot for newborns — a public health strategy that brought the infection in children to the brink of elimination — to age 12."

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a87zDpY_460s.jpg

Almost as bad as their ban on abortions even in the case of rape or incest.

That ban of abortions even extends to where the woman’s waters break before the fetus has developed lungs. It is not viable but in no-abortion states the woman has to carry the dead fetus until sepsis is so bad it puts the woman’s life at risk.

I have read some real horror stories since the abortion ban in too many US states.

Yup, stupid:


Quote:

Australian health experts warn Trump’s unfounded autism claims about paracetamol may harm pregnant women TGA confirms drug is safe for use in pregnancy as doctors worry about effect of White House misinformation Australian health experts warn Trump’s unfounded autism claims about paracetamol may harm pregnant women TGA confirms drug is safe for use in pregnancy as doctors worry about effect of White House misinformation Follow our Australia news live blog for latest updates Get our breaking news email, free app or daily news podcast Natasha May Health reporter Tue 23 Sep 2025 10.51 AEST Share Australia’s peak body for obstetricians and gynaecologists fears pregnant women will not take paracetamol when they need it and suffer harm from unmanaged fever after the Trump administration made unfounded claims linking it to autism. They encouraged women to talk to their doctor rather than rely on the White House announcement on Tuesday, which they described as “not a no-harm scenario”. The comments came as Australia’s medicines regulator, the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA), re-confirmed that the drug is safe for use in pregnancy. On Tuesday morning the US president, Donald Trump, claimed that pregnant women should limit their use of paracetamol, usually branded as Tylenol in the US, which he said heightens the risk of autism when it used by pregnant women – even though it is widely considered a safe option to treat pain and fever during pregnancy.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/23/australian-health-experts-warns-trumps-unfounded-claims-about-paracetamol-may-harm-pregnant-women

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2025 at 12:17pm:

That ban of abortions even extends to where the woman’s waters break before the fetus has developed lungs. It is not viable but in no-abortion states the woman has to carry the dead fetus until sepsis is so bad it puts the woman’s life at risk. I have read some real horror stories since the abortion ban in too many US states.

In some states it’s a blanket ban - even minors who aren’t even teenagers yet are barred from getting an abortion if they are raped. It is draconian.

Religion really flipping sucks!

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2025 at 12:46pm:

Religion really flipping sucks!

Religion has nothing to do with it. They’re using it as an excuse.

Far right christian activists were behind the demise of Roe v Wade.

Why does this thread immediately go off topic? - dementia?

Now back to Paracetamol.   

Would Trump say what he has said without any evidence?

True, Greggery, a lot of people are saying that. I knew this pill addict once, and she popped out a complete retard.

Could have been the father, I suppose. He was a Muslim. But do you know?

There is a cure. Hydroxychloraquine has been proven to cure autism in a significant percent of studies. Dr Stella Immanuel of the Praying Doctors was saying this only recently.

Not only has she treated retardation, she's helped parents cure their children's hommersexuality and other demonic mental disorders. 

RFK's considering Dr Stella to head the FDA.

The big fella likes the idea. She may help with the black vote in 2026. 

Also, she wears a stethoscope. He likes that.

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https://youtu.be/MEJS84otFtE

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2025 at 12:44pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 23rd, 2025 at 12:17pm: That ban of abortions even extends to where the woman’s waters break before the fetus has developed lungs. It is not viable but in no-abortion states the woman has to carry the dead fetus until sepsis is so bad it puts the woman’s life at risk. I have read some real horror stories since the abortion ban in too many US states. In some states it’s a blanket ban - even minors who aren’t even teenagers yet are barred from getting an abortion if they are raped. It is draconian.

Seems american men hate women

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2025 at 11:40am:

More conspiracy theories from Trump, RFK Jr. and "Dr" Oz. Trump links autism to acetaminophen use during pregnancy, despite decades of evidence it’s safe President Donald Trump announced Monday that the US Food and Drug Administration will notify doctors that the use of Tylenol during pregnancy can be associated with a “very increased risk of autism,” despite decades of evidence that it is safe. “They are strongly recommending that women limit Tylenol use during pregnancy unless medically necessary,” such as to treat fever, “if you can’t tough it out,” Trump said. Experts say there are multiple causes of autism, and the science showing a connection between autism and Tylenol is not settled.

I thought he was saying tylenol - the brand - not acetaminophen? Changed it did they?

Spot

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2025 at 12:44pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 23rd, 2025 at 12:17pm: That ban of abortions even extends to where the woman’s waters break before the fetus has developed lungs. It is not viable but in no-abortion states the woman has to carry the dead fetus until sepsis is so bad it puts the woman’s life at risk. I have read some real horror stories since the abortion ban in too many US states. In some states it’s a blanket ban - even minors who aren’t even teenagers yet are barred from getting an abortion if they are raped. It is draconian.

Not for the baby...

It is draconian for the fetus and for the mother.

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 3:13am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 23rd, 2025 at 12:44pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 23rd, 2025 at 12:17pm: That ban of abortions even extends to where the woman’s waters break before the fetus has developed lungs. It is not viable but in no-abortion states the woman has to carry the dead fetus until sepsis is so bad it puts the woman’s life at risk. I have read some real horror stories since the abortion ban in too many US states. In some states it’s a blanket ban - even minors who aren’t even teenagers yet are barred from getting an abortion if they are raped. It is draconian. Not for the baby...

did you ask it? ::)

In 2023 there was a class action lawsuit against the maker of Tylenol, alleging use during pregnancy led to birth disorders and autism.

A federal judge blocked the evidence from being presented, effectively ending the case.

Thats odd 🤔

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 4:26pm:

In 2023 there was a class action lawsuit against the maker of Tylenol, alleging use during pregnancy led to birth disorders and autism. A federal judge blocked the evidence from being presented, effectively ending the case. Thats odd 🤔

Is it?

Did you bother to check why the Judge made that call?


Quote:

In December 2023, U.S. District Judge Denise Cote ruled that the plaintiffs' expert witnesses failed to provide scientifically reliable evidence linking prenatal Tylenol use to autism or ADHD. The judge criticized the experts' methodologies as unstructured and prone to selective analysis, stating that their conclusions lacked the necessary scientific backing. Link

Yeah im sure that “Judge” knows best 🤔

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And Pregnant Liberal TicTok women would know best 🤔

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The company that make Tylenol - what would they know - idiots  -  they are anti science 🤔

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SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2025 at 7:29am:

Yeah im sure that “Judge” knows best 🤔

I'm going to assume you didn't read past any of the headlines, so there is no point in further scrutinising this post.

Quote:

A woman 23–25 weeks pregnant, is now on a ventilator from liver failure—she was trying to “prove Trump wrong” about Tylenol & autism because of a TT trend. Doctors say they do NOT expect her to survive.

https://x.com/derrickevans4wv/status/1970913195666903184?s=61&t=pr9sQbfDnRXI42Hsv2j5ag

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2025 at 7:34am:

The company that make Tylenol - what would they know - idiots  -  they are anti science 🤔

It's funny that you got that from Trump and just reposted without thinking or checking.

https://i.imgur.com/WWWkBvc.png

If you go back and find the full context you'll see this additional infomration,


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This eight-year-old consumer response is incomplete and did not address our full guidance on the safe use of Tylenol which has not changed: Acetaminophen is the safest pain reliever option for pregnant women as needed throughout their entire pregnancy. Our products are safe and effective when used as directed on the product label. We recommend pregnant women do not take any over-the-counter medication, including acetaminophen, without talking to their doctor first.

But I'm guessing you'd prefer the "Truth" from Trump than anything remotely resembling reality, right?

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2025 at 7:36am:

Quote: A woman 23–25 weeks pregnant, is now on a ventilator from liver failure—she was trying to “prove Trump wrong” about Tylenol & autism because of a TT trend. Doctors say they do NOT expect her to survive. https://x.com/derrickevans4wv/status/1970913195666903184?s=61&t=pr9sQbfDnRXI42Hsv2j5ag

The things you choose to believe vs what you choose to ignore as fake is hilarious.

Just roll the dice - it’ll be ok. 🤔


Quote:

Close to four percent of women took Tylenol for at least 28 days total during pregnancy. Their children seemed to have poorer motor skills than kids whose mothers had taken the drug fewer times or not at all. Tylenol-exposed kids also tended to start walking later, have poorer communication and language skills and more behaviour problems.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-too-much-tylenol-in-pregnancy-could-a/too-much-tylenol-in-pregnancy-could-affect-development-idINBRE9AL15920131122/

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2025 at 7:29am:

Yeah im sure that “Judge” knows best 🤔

That is so cool and sooooo real, VenerealBrain9


You copy and pasted from a Chinese propaganda site with Adobe. 



;DYou f**king idiot.

Serial. I think it's correlation, not causation.

If you get the flu or ill during pregnancy. Or if you are superstressed by something and get headaches. You might take paracetamol.

But it's the underlying stress hormones, cortisol, poor sleep, adrenaline, that might harm the baby , not the paracetamol.

In fact if it lowers the temp, it's probably a net benefit.

Donny should probably stick to what he does best. Persuading people to be patriotic. He has certainly struck a chord in Italy where the patriotic PM  is modelling herself on him, deporting all the illegals and will undoubtedly make the country a richer tourism destination.


Donny is a chubby man.
He shouldn't be lecturing on health.

Wow, Serial really got destroyed in this thread!   :o

https://mediaproxy.snopes.com/width/1200/height/1200/https://media.snopes.com/2025/09/trump_face.png

Like i said - Roll the dice 🎲

Im sure it’ll be fine 🤔

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greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2025 at 11:40am:

More conspiracy theories from Trump, RFK Jr. and "Dr" Oz. Trump links autism to acetaminophen use during pregnancy, despite decades of evidence it’s safe President Donald Trump announced Monday that the US Food and Drug Administration will notify doctors that the use of Tylenol during pregnancy can be associated with a “very increased risk of autism,” despite decades of evidence that it is safe. “They are strongly recommending that women limit Tylenol use during pregnancy unless medically necessary,” such as to treat fever, “if you can’t tough it out,” Trump said. Experts say there are multiple causes of autism, and the science showing a connection between autism and Tylenol is not settled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGaQw5HyX38

Roger Seheult, MD of MedCram explores oxidative stress and its relationship to autism and Tylenol. See all Dr. Seheult's videos at: https://www.medcram.com/

(This video was recorded on September 22nd, 2025)

Roger Seheult, MD is the co-founder and lead professor at https://www.medcram.com/

He is Board Certified in Internal Medicine, Pulmonary Disease, Critical Care, and Sleep Medicine and an Associate Professor at the University of California, Riverside School of Medicine.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2025 at 11:40am:

Trump links autism to acetaminophen use during pregnancy, despite decades of evidence it’s safe

And we all know decades of evidence can never be overturned. :'(

Bobby. wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2025 at 2:08pm:

Why does this thread immediately go off topic? - dementia? Now back to Paracetamol.    Would Trump say what he has said without any evidence?

bobby,

You are mistaken.

The subject of this thread is Donald Trump.

NOT, Paracetamol.

/sarc off



i.e.
greggery started this thread....

And all of the denizens of OzPol understand.....
whenever greggery starts a thread on OzPol,
that the subject of that thread will be.....Donald Trump.

Duh.


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Q.
Is paracetamol a very dangerous over-the-counter medication ?

Judge for yourself.....

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1742622699/24#24

Yadda wrote on Sep 25^th, 2025 at 12:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2025 at 2:08pm: Why does this thread immediately go off topic? - dementia? Now back to Paracetamol.    Would Trump say what he has said without any evidence? bobby, You are mistaken. The subject of this thread is Donald Trump. NOT, Paracetamol. /sarc off i.e. greggery started this thread.... And all of the denizens of OzPol understand..... whenever greggery starts a thread on OzPol, that the subject of that thread will be.....Donald Trump. Duh. . Q. Is paracetamol a very dangerous over-the-counter medication ? Judge for yourself..... Yadda said.... http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1742622699/24#24

The trolls and conspiratards are out in force today...

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 3:13am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 23rd, 2025 at 12:44pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 23rd, 2025 at 12:17pm: That ban of abortions even extends to where the woman’s waters break before the fetus has developed lungs. It is not viable but in no-abortion states the woman has to carry the dead fetus until sepsis is so bad it puts the woman’s life at risk. I have read some real horror stories since the abortion ban in too many US states. In some states it’s a blanket ban - even minors who aren’t even teenagers yet are barred from getting an abortion if they are raped. It is draconian. Not for the baby...

Oh, I don't know. What if the offspring happens to be tinted?

Okay with that, are you?

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2025 at 7:49am:

Just roll the dice - it’ll be ok. 🤔 Quote: Close to four percent of women took Tylenol for at least 28 days total during pregnancy. Their children seemed to have poorer motor skills than kids whose mothers had taken the drug fewer times or not at all. Tylenol-exposed kids also tended to start walking later, have poorer communication and language skills and more behaviour problems. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-too-much-tylenol-in-pregnancy-could-a/too-much-tylenol-in-pregnancy-could-affect-development-idINBRE9AL15920131122/

There, you see? Proof.

Do you think DL relied on this 12 year old study from Norway?

Or is it possible he just feels Tylenol causes retardism? 

What say you?

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2025 at 9:50am:

Like i said - Roll the dice 🎲 Im sure it’ll be fine 🤔

Hang on, HCL causes death?

Which deep state fake news outlet published this one, Serial?

Oh, I see. Dr Ron strikes again, no?

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2025 at 11:40am:

More conspiracy theories from Trump, RFK Jr. and "Dr" Oz. [i]President Donald Trump announced Monday that the US Food and Drug Administration will notify doctors that the use of Tylenol during pregnancy can be associated with a “very increased risk of autism,” despite decades of evidence that it is safe. “They are strongly recommending that women limit Tylenol use during pregnancy unless medically necessary,” such as to treat fever, “if you can’t tough it out,” Trump said.

More TDS from the usual suspects.

Tylenol have said don't use our product if pregnant i wonder what they know. ::)

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SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 4:26pm:

In 2023 there was a class action lawsuit against the maker of Tylenol, alleging use during pregnancy led to birth disorders and autism. A federal judge blocked the evidence from being presented, effectively ending the case. Thats odd 🤔

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Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:08am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2025 at 11:40am: More conspiracy theories from Trump, RFK Jr. and "Dr" Oz. President Donald Trump announced Monday that the US Food and Drug Administration will notify doctors that the use of Tylenol during pregnancy can be associated with a “very increased risk of autism,” despite decades of evidence that it is safe. “They are strongly recommending that women limit Tylenol use during pregnancy unless medically necessary,” such as to treat fever, “if you can’t tough it out,” Trump said. More TDS from the usual suspects. Tylenol have said don't use our product if pregnant i wonder what they know. ::)

That's a tough one, Baron. You've posted a meme from 2017, so I'm curious.

Were Tylenol responding to claims that Tylenol causes autism [i]eight years ago?

How long did it take you to dredge that one up?

And who helped you find this post and turn it into a meme?

Cheers.

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:46am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 28th, 2025 at 12:08am: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2025 at 11:40am: More conspiracy theories from Trump, RFK Jr. and "Dr" Oz. President Donald Trump announced Monday that the US Food and Drug Administration will notify doctors that the use of Tylenol during pregnancy can be associated with a “very increased risk of autism,” despite decades of evidence that it is safe. “They are strongly recommending that women limit Tylenol use during pregnancy unless medically necessary,” such as to treat fever, “if you can’t tough it out,” Trump said. More TDS from the usual suspects. Tylenol have said don't use our product if pregnant i wonder what they know. ::) That's a tough one, Baron. You've posted a meme from 2017, so I'm curious. Were Tylenol responding to claims that Tylenol causes autism [i]eight years ago? How long did it take you to dredge that one up? And who helped you find this post and turn it into a meme? Cheers.

Looks like Baron has left the building.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4nFgWc9d-Y

Paracetamol use during pregnancy not linked to autism, our study of 2.5 million children shows
Published: September 25, 2025 5.45am AEST


United States President Donald Trump recently claimed that using the common painkiller acetaminophen (also known as paracetamol and by the brand name Tylenol in the US) during pregnancy is fuelling the rise in autism diagnoses. He then went on to suggest pregnant women should “tough it out” rather than use the common painkiller if they experience fever or pain.

This announcement has caused alarm and confusion worldwide. But despite Trump’s claim, there is no strong scientific evidence to back it up. Our study of nearly 2.5 million births in Sweden published in 2024 shows no evidence that acetaminophen use during pregnancy increases a child’s risk of autism. This is the largest study conducted on the subject to date.

To understand whether acetaminophen really poses a risk in pregnancy, we turned to Sweden’s national health registers, which are among the most comprehensive in the world. Our study followed nearly 2.5 million children born between 1995 and 2019, tracking them for up to 26 years.

Using prescription records and interviews that midwives conducted during prenatal visits, we could see which mothers reported using acetaminophen (about 7.5% of pregnancies) and which did not.

We also made sure to account for any variables that may have affected the results of our statistical analysis – including controlling for health factors, such as fever or pain, which would have influenced whether or not a mother used acetaminophen during her pregnancy. This was to ensure a more fair comparison between the two groups.

We then looked at the children’s neurodevelopmental outcomes – specifically whether they were diagnosed with autism, ADHD or an intellectual disability.

The real strength of our study came from being able to compare siblings. This allowed us to compare children born to the same mother, where acetaminophen had been used during one child’s pregnancy but not the other. We compared over 45,000 sibling pairs, where at least one sibling had an autism diagnosis.

This sibling design is powerful because siblings share much of their genetics and family environment. This allows us to tease apart whether the drug itself – rather than underlying family traits or health conditions – is responsible for any apparent risks for neurodevelopmental outcomes.

Acetaminophen use

When we first looked at the entire population, we saw a pattern that echoed earlier studies: children whose mothers reported using acetaminophen during pregnancy were slightly more likely to be diagnosed with autism, ADHD or an intellectual disability.

But once we ran the sibling comparisons, that association completely disappeared. In other words, when we compared sets of siblings where one was exposed in the womb to acetaminophen and one was not, there was no difference in their likelihood of later being diagnosed with autism, ADHD or an intellectual disability.

Our study is not the only one to put this question to the test. Researchers in Japan recently published a study using a similar sibling-comparison design, and their results closely matched ours.

Importantly, they replicated our findings in a population with a different genetic background and where patterns of acetaminophen use during pregnancy are quite different. Nearly 40% of mothers in Japan reported using the drug during pregnancy. In comparison, less than 10% of Swedish mothers had used it.

Despite these differences, the conclusion was the same. When siblings are compared, there is no evidence that acetaminophen use during pregnancy increases the risk of autism or ADHD.

These findings mark an important shift from earlier studies, which relied on more limited data, used smaller cohorts and didn’t account for genetic differences. They also did not fully account for why some mothers used pain relief during pregnancy while others didn’t.

For example, mothers who take acetaminophen are more likely to also have migraines, chronic pain, fever or serious infections. These are conditions that are themselves genetically linked to autism or ADHD, as well as a child’s likelihood of later being diagnosed with one of these conditions.

These types of “confounding factors” can create associations that look convincing on the surface, but may not reflect a true cause-and-effect relationship.

That brings us to the real question on many people’s minds: what does this mean if you’re pregnant and dealing with pain or fever?

It’s important to recognise that untreated illness during pregnancy can be dangerous. A high fever in pregnancy, for example, is known to increase the risk of complications for both mother and baby. “Toughing it out,” as the president suggested, is not a risk-free option.

That’s why professional medical organisations such as the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and the UK’s Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency continue to recommend acetaminophen (paracetamol) as the safest fever reducer and pain reliever during pregnancy when used at the lowest effective dose and only when necessary. This has been the guidance for decades.

https://theconversation.com/paracetamol-use-during-pregnancy-not-linked-to-autism-our-study-of-2-5-million-children-shows-265919

Surely Trump - convicted felon and adjudicated rapist -  knows more about these things than the  American College of Obstetricians & Gynecologists and the UK’s Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency.

https://youtu.be/BQjngpMCKwo

mothra wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 9:45am:

The real strength of our study came from being able to compare siblings. This allowed us to compare children born to the same mother, where acetaminophen had been used during one child’s pregnancy but not the other. We compared over 45,000 sibling pairs, where at least one sibling had an autism diagnosis.

And of course that means every sibling pair should have autism, if indeed there is no correlation/causation and having different fathers wasn't a factor either.

lee wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:17pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 28th, 2025 at 9:45am: The real strength of our study came from being able to compare siblings. This allowed us to compare children born to the same mother, where acetaminophen had been used during one child’s pregnancy but not the other. We compared over 45,000 sibling pairs, where at least one sibling had an autism diagnosis. And of course that means every sibling pair should have autism, if indeed there is no correlation/causation and having different fathers wasn't a factor either.

I see your understanding of gene expression is as robust as your grasp on climate science.

mothra wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:22pm:

I see your understanding of gene expression is as robust as your grasp on climate science.

Nope it was your claim. that there was no nexus between tylenol and autism.  So for the study to be true, all data should reflect that.

So autism is not a good indicator of siblings suffering it. It can miss entire generations.

Fathers can carry the gene, so looking at mothers only is not scientific.

Prove me wrong. ;)

... :o

How do you manage to get yourself into these situations, Lee?

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 11:12am:

Surely Trump - convicted felon and adjudicated rapist -  knows more about these things than the  American College of Obstetricians & Gynecologists and the UK’s Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency. https://youtu.be/BQjngpMCKwo

I'm still laughing at this as well:

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1970230078828105984 (may need to click the speaker icon to get sound)


Quote:

Trump: "Asceda -- well, let's see how we say that. Ascenem -- enophin. Acetaminophen. Is that okay?"

;D

mothra wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:31pm:

How do you manage to get yourself into these situations, Lee?

"However, scientists found a strong genetic component from the father that contributed to an autism diagnosis in siblings."

https://www.autismparentingmagazine.com/which-parent-carries-autism-gene/

"Rather than a single “autism gene,” scientists have identified numerous genetic variations that may increase the likelihood of developing ASD.

...
While having a sibling with autism does increase the likelihood of ASD in other siblings, it does not guarantee it. The relationship between autism and siblings is complex and influenced by various factors."

https://neurolaunch.com/if-my-sibling-has-autism-do-i/

Hmm, Complex. That means simple answers aeren't enough.

Btw -
mothra wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:22pm:

I see your understanding of gene expression is as robust as your grasp on climate science.

Perhaps you can tell us about Koppen's Climate Classification Sytem.  Now that is the basis of climate science. ;)

Fecked if i know what point you think you've made, Lee, butt from my perspective, you're making a colossal tit of yourself then winking about it, bizarrely.

mothra wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 1:10pm:

Fecked if i know what point you think you've made, Lee, butt from my perspective, you're making a colossal tit of yourself then winking about it, bizarrely.

Not as big a tit as yourself. ;)

And you kn ow nothing about climate classification but can pontificate on climate change. Absolutely bizarre. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:28pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 28th, 2025 at 12:22pm: I see your understanding of gene expression is as robust as your grasp on climate science. Nope it was your claim. that there was no nexus between tylenol and autism.  So for the study to be true, all data should reflect that. So autism is not a good indicator of siblings suffering it. It can miss entire generations. Fathers can carry the gene, so looking at mothers only is not scientific. Prove me wrong. ;)

No worries. DL said.

Now, try to argue your way out of that.

lee wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 2:12pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 28th, 2025 at 1:10pm: Fecked if i know what point you think you've made, Lee, butt from my perspective, you're making a colossal tit of yourself then winking about it, bizarrely. Not as big a tit as yourself. ;) And you kn ow nothing about climate classification but can pontificate on climate change. Absolutely bizarre. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

He's right, Mother. Pontificating on climate change without knowing anything about climate classification is a big no no.

In fact, and I'm sure Lee will agree with me here, so is the term climate change. You can't say that, dear.

If you can't say something nice, you shouldn't be saying anything at all.

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 3:35pm:

Now, try to argue your way out of that.

::)Argue what exactly?

lee wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 3:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2025 at 3:35pm: Now, try to argue your way out of that. ::)Argue what exactly?

since when has that stopped you?