Gaza genocide death toll revised up – now over 680,000, including almost half a million children

https://www.thecanary.co/skwawkbox/2025/09/12/gaza-death-toll-lancet/


Quote:

As Skwawkbox has previously reported, the death toll in Gaza from Israel’s genocidal war on civilians has far exceeded media reports for the best part of two years – around 450,000 by the summer, almost all of them civilians, according to the Israeli military’s own data. But the latest analysis published in medical journal The Lancet puts the estimated death toll far higher – and the proportion of children among the victims of Israel’s terrorism even higher than the fifty percent previously estimated. Israel’s genocidal campaign sees Gaza death toll increased. Amid Israel’s wholesale destruction of Gaza, as many as 120,000 bodies remain unrecovered and therefore not included in official death figures, but the impact of starvation and disease after months of Israel’s blockade of food and even basic medicines has now overtaken the toll of those murdered violently by the occupation. A study by the Lancet based on the slaughter of the first nine months of the Israeli-imposed Gaza massacre found that the total number of violent deaths by April 2025, almost five months ago, was 136,000. The Lancet also estimated at least four ‘indirect’ deaths from starvation, disease and other causes linked to the genocide but not directly caused by violence, for every violent death. Even using that “conservative” figure, the 136,000 violent deaths by April mean 544,000 Palestinian deaths from the imposed deprivation. This means a total Gaza death toll from Israel’s genocide so far would be a staggering 680,000 deaths – by 25 April this year – and much higher now, after five more months of mass murder and starvation. And as lawyer Ali Jamal Awad noted, the study also puts the number of babies and children murdered at a far higher proportion of the total than the fifty percent estimated previously:     On September 3, 2025, Dr. Gideon Polya and Professor Richard Hil calculated the total death toll for Gaza since October 7.     My fingers are shaking as I’m writing this.     Based on all the data collected, the death toll in Gaza is at least 680,000.     But even worse, 380,000 are infants under five years of age, 99,000 children five or older, 63,000 women and 138,000 men. Israel launched its genocide in Gaza on a claim that Palestinian fighters had beheaded babies and baked them in ovens on 7 October 2023. None of that was true. But the terror state has committed a slaughter of infants and children on a scale that Skwawkbox wishes were unimaginable – and a scale higher by a factor of more than ten than the ‘63,000’ that the BBC and other UK media persist in using, a horrific enough number but one that doesn’t even come close to reality.

Check it out !!

680,000 Palestinians DEAD In Gaza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XXLT07IIxQ

umm - different numbers:

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/world/news/2025-09/palestinian-death-toll-in-gaza-surpasses-65-000.html


The number of Palestinians killed in the Gaza Strip since October 2023 has surpassed 65,000,
according to Gaza-based health authorities.

Officials report that the death toll has reached 65,062,
with 165,697 others injured since the start of the conflict.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 20^th, 2025 at 10:24am:

umm - different numbers: https://www.vaticannews.va/en/world/news/2025-09/palestinian-death-toll-in-gaza-surpasses-65-000.html The number of Palestinians killed in the Gaza Strip since October 2023 has surpassed 65,000, according to Gaza-based health authorities. Officials report that the death toll has reached 65,062, with 165,697 others injured since the start of the conflict.

That's what they keep feeding us, but how many dead under the rubble ?? How many have starved to death or died of disease or inadequate medical treatment etc ? Surely you can't keep blowing the crap out of the joint whilst starving the people, and then that figure remains constant at 60,000 ??

Bit of a typo perhaps? Just an extra zero.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war


Quote:

As of 17 September 2025, over 68,000 people (66,054 Palestinians[4][9] and 1,983 Israelis[c]) have been reported killed in the Gaza war according to the Gaza Health Ministry (GHM) and Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Do you think the Gaza Health Ministry is part of the evil Jewish conspiracy to commit genocide in Gaza and hope no-one notices?

;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D     more like an extra two zeros  .... according to Gaza-based health authorities.   .......   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Good grief this is worse than the extra 10,000 years at a time that gets added every few years to how long Aboriginals have been on this continent. Gone from 35,000 to 65,000 in about 15 years.

Figures lie and liars figure.

Maths is a flexible concept.  ::)

Are these the figures from the

HAMAS MINISTRY OF HEALTH  :D

freediver wrote on Sep 21^st, 2025 at 8:52am:

Bit of a typo perhaps? Just an extra zero. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war Quote: As of 17 September 2025, over 68,000 people (66,054 Palestinians[4][9] and 1,983 Israelis[c]) have been reported killed in the Gaza war according to the Gaza Health Ministry (GHM) and Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Do you think the Gaza Health Ministry is part of the evil Jewish conspiracy to commit genocide in Gaza and hope no-one notices?

Asking the zionists for an accurate death toll in Gaza is like asking Dracula how many times he has sucked blood out of people !!

Since the zions won't allow journalists and humanitarian aid workers into Gaza it makes it very difficult to get an objective figure which appears to be intentional of course :(

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 8:21am:

;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D     more like an extra two zeros  .... according to Gaza-based health authorities.   .......   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Let the journos and humanitarian aid workers in if you have nothing to hide. What's the problem zion ??

Footage shows public executions in Gaza City street

Videos circulating on Sunday evening showed at least five armed and masked men, three blindfolded Palestinian men kneeling on the ground and a large crowd.

One of the armed men is heard saying: "The death sentence has been decided for all collaborators".


There are cheers before the three men are pushed to the ground and shot several times in the back of the head. The crowd then praises Hamas's armed wing, the Qassam Brigades.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c99g3p52k15o

.I suppose the Hamas ministry of health will blame the Israelis  ::)

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And the gazans cheered them on.

So much more work for the Israelis to do as they root out each cancerous node.
Keep going IDF

Righteousness is your path

Are the idiots here really claiming the the Gaza's ministry numbers are untrustworthy, whilst quoting numbers from the IDF? a group that has repeatedly been caught lying about operations since the land grab commenced?

John Smith wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 4:12pm:

Are the idiots here really claiming the the Gaza's ministry numbers are untrustworthy, whilst quoting numbers from the IDF? a group that has repeatedly been caught lying about operations since the land grab commenced?

Which post is this referencing?

Setanta wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 8:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 24th, 2025 at 4:12pm: Are the idiots here really claiming the the Gaza's ministry numbers are untrustworthy, whilst quoting numbers from the IDF? a group that has repeatedly been caught lying about operations since the land grab commenced? Which post is this referencing?

who said it's referencing any one post?

I don't think even John knows what he is talking about.

Read the thread John. Figure it out.

freediver wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 8:52pm:

I don't think even John knows what he is talking about. Read the thread John. Figure it out.

you drunk again fd?

"The real death toll in Gaza......"
is    >> 100% <<   the gift of HAMAS, and the gift of all other militants in Gaza.

PERIOD.



Whatever the final casualty count in Gaza is [or will be]......
IT DID NOT HAVE TO BE THAT FIGURE

.....EXCEPT,       MILITANT ISLAMISTS DID WANT THE FINAL CASUALTY COUNT,
TO BE AS HIGH AS POSSIBLE.


FACT.....
HAMAS could have surrendered the Israeli hostages,
and put down their weapons, on 2023, Oct 8th.......
and the war against Gazan's in Gaza would have been over.



QUESTION;
In retrospect......if Gazans DID NOT WANT THEIR OWN COMBATANTS TO DIE.......
when would have been the best time to surrender the Israeli hostages,
back to Israel ?



QUESTION;
What is 'Gaza' ?

'Gaza' is the war....which HAMAS and Gazans initiated, on 2023, Oct 7.



QUESTION;
When can the war in Gaza end ?

ANSWER;
AS SOON AS >> GAZANS <<< WANT THE WAR IN GAZA TO END,
IT WILL END.


.



NOW, SOME RELIGIOUS INSTRUCTION....


WWW search.....
what is "the Cause of Allah"?
fighting for "the Cause of Allah" (Jihad)

FROM THE HOLY KORAN.....

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise):
they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193


ARGUMENT [with proofs];
Moslems in Gaza have a desire to die,
fighting for "the Cause of Allah".



"Say: "...If ye think that ye are friends to Allah, to the exclusion of (other) men,
then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful!"  "
Koran 62.06


n.b.
Koran 62.06 is admonishing the believer,
that his only true love, in this life [if he is a true moslem],
is to die, fighting in Allah's cause [aka JIHAD]. !!!


.


And below this explanation from a moslem cleric,
an ISLAMIC holy man,
a person well versed in ISLAMIC >> religious << doctrine........

Explaining   why   HAMAS.....is REFUSING to end the war in Gaza.

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Quote:

There Can Be No End to Jihad' Islamist Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad, in an exclusive interview, discusses the rationale for 9/11 11/05/2007 ...Any weapons are legitimate in jihad. Even animals may be used as "suicide bombers"! It is not restricted by target— ....even Muslims or children, if used by the enemy as human shields, can be killed. ....Killing women and children never was and never will be part of the jihad in Islam, whether that be the women or children of the Muslims or non-Muslims. So if Chechen mujahedeen killed women and children in Beslan, I would condemn it. The children of non-Muslims, such as those at Beslan, who die in such circumstances go to Paradise. ....Women and children [i.e. boys under 15] or Muslims are not legitimate targets—nor are any noncombatants [clergy, disabled, insane, elderly, etc.]. Not even Israeli children or women, unless they serve in the military, which most do, or live in properties taken from dispossessed Palestinians (Muslim or Christian), which virtually all do. However, if children are killed, the fault lies with the adult occupiers who brought them into a battlefield situation.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/februaryweb-only/22.0.html



n.b.
That according to ISLAM's own 'rules of war',
those who bring children into conflict areas/scenarios, are responsible for their deaths.

HAMAS.



HAMAS could EASILY end the war in Gaza.

But HAMAS refuses, to bear the SHAME of their own surrender.



P.S.
bobby,
Please stop disrespecting me.....and please read all of this post !

They love and embrace death. Allah is merciful in granting it to them early.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 25^th, 2025 at 8:37am:

They love and embrace death. Allah is merciful in granting it to them early.

They DO
it's a death cult.

Asking Israel to stop killing hamas and their millions of supporters is like asking America not to worry about Muslims who want to learn how to fly planes.

If someone wants to kill you, you have to act.

Quote:

The real death toll in Gaza closer to 680,000 ??

Even that number is likely low.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 25^th, 2025 at 6:58pm:

Quote: The real death toll in Gaza closer to 680,000 ?? Even that number is likely low.

Dnarever,

Then you must be so, so proud.....
of your religion,
and of your co-religionists,
who have died ?


And we all, should be content,
for the 'circumstance',
which every follower of ISLAM in Gaza,
finds himself in.

content = = in a state of peaceful happiness or satisfaction.


WHY SO ?

Because, according to their own wishes,
so many followers of ISLAM in Gaza,
have received
EXACTLY,
EXACTLY,
EXACTLY,
what THEY, and their own religion claim is a HUGE blessing to them........

'DEATH, FIGHTING FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH'S RELIGION.'


Their own words [i.e. ISLAMIC SOURCES]......

"A man came to the Prophet and asked, "A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah's Cause?" The Prophet said, "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.065
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.080i


"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #001.002.026




"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."
   ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb.


.


MY OPINION......
ISLAM, is a murderous DEATH CULT....
ISLAM, is a murderous DEATH CULT....
ISLAM, is a murderous DEATH CULT....

WAKE UP PEOPLE


Their own words [i.e. ISLAMIC SOURCES]......

"Our children....
were created to be fertilizer
for the land of Palestine"
- Palestinian Authority
for full citation from PA, follow LINK below

Yadda said........
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1729604374/2#2


WWW search.....
what is "the Cause of Allah"?
fighting for "the Cause of Allah" (Jihad)

FROM THE HOLY KORAN.....

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise):
they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193


ARGUMENT [with proofs];
Moslems in Gaza >> ALL CLAIM << that they have a desire to die,
fighting for "the Cause of Allah".



"Say: "...If ye think that ye are friends to Allah, to the exclusion of (other) men,
then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful!"  "
Koran 62.06


n.b.
Koran 62.06 is admonishing the believer,
that his only true love, in this life [if he is a true moslem],
is to die, fighting in Allah's cause [aka JIHAD]. !!!

John Smith wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 4:12pm:

Are the idiots here really claiming the the Gaza's ministry numbers are untrustworthy, whilst quoting numbers from the IDF? a group that has repeatedly been caught lying about operations since the land grab commenced?

You're the only idiot believing anything from Gazans.

Then again it's not just you ... it's all the lefty fwits here.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 25^th, 2025 at 6:58pm:

Quote: The real death toll in Gaza closer to 680,000 ?? Even that number is likely low.

Garbage.

Gnads wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 11:03am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 24th, 2025 at 4:12pm: Are the idiots here really claiming the the Gaza's ministry numbers are untrustworthy, whilst quoting numbers from the IDF? a group that has repeatedly been caught lying about operations since the land grab commenced? You're the only idiot believing anything from Gazans. Then again it's not just you ... it's all the lefty fwits here.

so thats a yes from you.

And now an Irish themed message from all the decent people of the world to the Pallywood scum and their pathetic apologists:

https://youtu.be/ithQnu0AwnY?list=RDithQnu0AwnY


:) :) :) :)

Belgarion wrote on Sep 29^th, 2025 at 8:55am:

And now an Irish themed message from all the decent people of the world to the Pallywood scum and their pathetic apologists: https://youtu.be/ithQnu0AwnY?list=RDithQnu0AwnY :) :) :) :)

Fixed  ;)

John Smith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 11:33am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 28th, 2025 at 11:03am: John Smith wrote on Sep 24th, 2025 at 4:12pm: Are the idiots here really claiming the the Gaza's ministry numbers are untrustworthy, whilst quoting numbers from the IDF? a group that has repeatedly been caught lying about operations since the land grab commenced? You're the only idiot believing anything from Gazans. Then again it's not just you ... it's all the lefty fwits here. so thats a yes from you.

Yes - you are a fwit.

Gnads wrote on Sep 29^th, 2025 at 9:58am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 28th, 2025 at 11:33am: Gnads wrote on Sep 28th, 2025 at 11:03am: John Smith wrote on Sep 24th, 2025 at 4:12pm: Are the idiots here really claiming the the Gaza's ministry numbers are untrustworthy, whilst quoting numbers from the IDF? a group that has repeatedly been caught lying about operations since the land grab commenced? You're the only idiot believing anything from Gazans. Then again it's not just you ... it's all the lefty fwits here. so thats a yes from you. Yes - you are a fwit.

Which is about ten levels above you

John Smith wrote on Sep 29^th, 2025 at 10:05am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2025 at 9:58am: John Smith wrote on Sep 28th, 2025 at 11:33am: Gnads wrote on Sep 28th, 2025 at 11:03am: John Smith wrote on Sep 24th, 2025 at 4:12pm: Are the idiots here really claiming the the Gaza's ministry numbers are untrustworthy, whilst quoting numbers from the IDF? a group that has repeatedly been caught lying about operations since the land grab commenced? You're the only idiot believing anything from Gazans. Then again it's not just you ... it's all the lefty fwits here. so thats a yes from you. Yes - you are a fwit. Which is about ten levels above you

Yeah nah fwit.

You know where you can shove your Palestine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ithQnu0AwnY&list=RDithQnu0AwnY&index=1

https://i.imgur.com/5LcmDZx.jpeg

Gnads wrote on Sep 29^th, 2025 at 10:09am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 29th, 2025 at 10:05am: Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2025 at 9:58am: John Smith wrote on Sep 28th, 2025 at 11:33am: Gnads wrote on Sep 28th, 2025 at 11:03am: John Smith wrote on Sep 24th, 2025 at 4:12pm: Are the idiots here really claiming the the Gaza's ministry numbers are untrustworthy, whilst quoting numbers from the IDF? a group that has repeatedly been caught lying about operations since the land grab commenced? You're the only idiot believing anything from Gazans. Then again it's not just you ... it's all the lefty fwits here. so thats a yes from you. Yes - you are a fwit. Which is about ten levels above you Yeah nah fwit.

stop mumbling ya fool

John Smith wrote on Sep 30^th, 2025 at 8:11am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2025 at 10:09am: John Smith wrote on Sep 29th, 2025 at 10:05am: Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2025 at 9:58am: John Smith wrote on Sep 28th, 2025 at 11:33am: Gnads wrote on Sep 28th, 2025 at 11:03am: John Smith wrote on Sep 24th, 2025 at 4:12pm: Are the idiots here really claiming the the Gaza's ministry numbers are untrustworthy, whilst quoting numbers from the IDF? a group that has repeatedly been caught lying about operations since the land grab commenced? You're the only idiot believing anything from Gazans. Then again it's not just you ... it's all the lefty fwits here. so thats a yes from you. Yes - you are a fwit. Which is about ten levels above you Yeah nah fwit. stop mumbling ya fool

Typing isn't mumbling fwit.

Gnads wrote on Sep 30^th, 2025 at 9:39am:

Typing isn't mumbling fwit.

Correct. Now stop mumbling.

Why….stop medicine and food to the war torn victims?


Greta Thunberg detained as Israel intercepts Gaza-bound aid flotilla

https://apple.news/AKSSZIlmaQPy3FnEDZJ9-_g

It’s evil….and don’t say all’s fair in love and war.

Sophia wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2025 at 9:36am:

Why….stop medicine and food to the war torn victims? Greta Thunberg detained as Israel intercepts Gaza-bound aid flotilla https://apple.news/AKSSZIlmaQPy3FnEDZJ9-_g It’s evil….and don’t say all’s fair in love and war.

There is plenty of food and medicine getting to Gaza, however HAMAS, with UN compliance, is taking control of it and doling it out, or not, as they see fit. This little boat ride is nothing but a 'look at me!' moment for the Doom Goblin and other activists and nothing to do with really helping the situation. The IDF have shown great restraint in the way they have dealt with these clowns.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Sophia wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2025 at 9:36am:

Why….stop medicine and food to the war torn victims? Greta Thunberg detained as Israel intercepts Gaza-bound aid flotilla https://apple.news/AKSSZIlmaQPy3FnEDZJ9-_g It’s evil….and don’t say all’s fair in love and war.

Sorry .... but Thunberg hasn't got diddly squat ... it's all a publicity stunt.

Foreign citizens and boats have no right or reason to be there.

She should piss off home - she doesn't belong near a war zone & as such she is putting herself & her dinky flotilla in harms way.

The Israelis are not stopping food or medicines going into Gaza.

Hamas is stopping more than anything/anybody else.

Check it out :(

UN Expert Francėsca Albanesė Drops a Bombshell Report on the Situation in Gazą

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQH-7zUhtDI

Belgarion wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2025 at 11:39am:

Sophia wrote on Oct 2nd, 2025 at 9:36am: Why….stop medicine and food to the war torn victims? Greta Thunberg detained as Israel intercepts Gaza-bound aid flotilla https://apple.news/AKSSZIlmaQPy3FnEDZJ9-_g It’s evil….and don’t say all’s fair in love and war. There is plenty of food and medicine getting to Gaza, however HAMAS, with UN compliance, is taking control of it and doling it out, or not, as they see fit. This little boat ride is nothing but a 'look at me!' moment for the Doom Goblin and other activists and nothing to do with really helping the situation. The IDF have shown great restraint in the way they have dealt with these clowns. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

And you know that for a certainty ?? How ? The Zions told you so :(

But this is what they really tell each other in their own language !!

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Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 4^th, 2025 at 5:08pm:

Check it out :( UN Expert Francėsca Albanesė Drops a Bombshell Report on the Situation in Gazą https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQH-7zUhtDI

Albo's cuz - weally, weally cwedible...  :D :D


The Islamic f***head Gazans sowed the wind and are now harvesting the whirlwind. 
How Biblical.

"Saul has slain his thousands, and David his ten thousands!"
Bibi his hundreds of thousands. 

Keep going until they tap out. Anything else is fatal.

So, Trump (the adjudicated rapist and convicted felon) tells Netanyahu to stop bombing and what does he do?

He keeps bombing and kills some more children.

Putin and Netanyahu are totally ignoring Trump.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 9:01am:

So, Trump (the adjudicated rapist and convicted felon) tells Netanyahu to stop bombing and what does he do? He keeps bombing and kills some more children. Putin and Netanyahu are totally ignoring Trump.

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Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 11:42am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:01am: So, Trump (the adjudicated rapist and convicted felon) tells Netanyahu to stop bombing and what does he do? He keeps bombing and kills some more children. Putin and Netanyahu are totally ignoring Trump.

BORIS JOHNSON: Time for the knee-jerk Israel bashers to take off their ridiculous black and white Arafat dishcloths, cease their revolting demos and call on Hamas to sign the White House peace deal…

Signing the deal means nothing. Just return the hostages. Problem solved. The "deal" is just another distraction. Hamas could spend years whining about the details.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 9:01am:

So, Trump (the adjudicated rapist and convicted felon) tells Netanyahu to stop bombing and what does he do? He keeps bombing and kills some more children. Putin and Netanyahu are totally ignoring Trump.

They have no obligation to do so - how about you think a little deeper... Trump just came out and gave Hamas an ultimatum over the release of hostages.... at the same time Novosti said that Beni had agreed to participate in peace talks and has held off Gaza at a standstill line... but time is on the clock... lo the bird is on the wing...

You're off beam thinking trump won't support Israel...

The real death toll of Hamas and supporters and assistants is less than 50,000 - far less..

Al Jeeratuswillya says - " Israel's war on Gaza has killed at least 67,074 people and wounded 169,430 since October 2023. Thousands more are believed to be buried under ..."  Well - it's Hamas' war on Israel, and the total figures include the vast majority of those who supported and applauded Hamas' vile invasion..... and of course propaganda Rules says think of a number and multiply it by .. whatever...probably more like 16-20,000 including mostly Hamas 'fighters'... the New Martyrs...

72 virgins - let's go get these boys laid for a change....

........ I always thought Al Jazeera was a nightclub in Beirut... with a great jazz band.....   if you believe in Lou Armstrong, then life is just a one night stand... if there's a jazz playing heaven, they'd have to have a hell of a band....

freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 5:42pm:

Signing the deal means nothing. Just return the hostages. Problem solved. The "deal" is just another distraction. Hamas could spend years whining about the details.

Returning the hostages means nothing to the illegal settler colony. They indiscriminately bomb buildings in Gaza without knowing what is in or under them, which means they couldn't give a flying fick if any of the hostages were in those buildings. :(

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Quote:

Returning the hostages means nothing to the illegal settler colony. They indiscriminately bomb buildings in Gaza without knowing what is in or under them, which means they couldn't give a flying fick if any of the hostages were in those buildings.

That's what happens in war Nail. If Hamas has a problem with the reality of war, they should not start them at every opportunity, then use residential areas as their military bases.

freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 6:40pm:

Quote: Returning the hostages means nothing to the illegal settler colony. They indiscriminately bomb buildings in Gaza without knowing what is in or under them, which means they couldn't give a flying fick if any of the hostages were in those buildings. That's what happens in war Nail. If Hamas has a problem with the reality of war, they should not start them at every opportunity, then use residential areas as their military bases.

They never started it !

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Quote:

They never started it !

They invaded Israel and took hostages Nail. Do try to keep up.

freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

Quote: They never started it ! They invaded Israel and took hostages Nail. Do try to keep up.

You don't read too well. It started over 77 years ago ! And Israel is an illegal settler colony :(

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Dear sir brave Nail,

they have been murdering each other in Israel for 3,000 years -

it's not news.

Quote:

It started over 77 years ago !

No it didn't. That is no less idiotic than kicking off WWII again because you didn't like how the situation was left at half time.

The current war clearly and unambiguously started because Hamas invaded Israel and took hostages. Anything else is spineless apologetics for a terrorist organisation. That's why even Muslim countries are saying it is Hamas' fault.

... Beirut................. I'm only in Beirut........ baclava ........ the sound of Lebanese jazz flows through the streets from various night spots.....  but I was looking for one special spot....... Al Jazeera... the Lebanese era of jazz .....and the name of a speak-easy run by my contact...... on a quiet night you could hear the thunder of  gunfire in Syria.. if you listened carefully you could almost hear the screams of the women and children left fatherless because the Islamists there executed the fathers as 'helpers of Israel' for asking for permission to move their families away from the endless fighting............. that kind of thing could flood over into here at any time...... so I was glad I had back-up .... the knd you wouldn't even see unless something went Arabic on me.....  "The black hawk is down', I whispered into my ear mike.....my handler chuckled... she said... "Are you sure you really want to use that?"  "Sure", I whispered back..... "sounds appropriate..."...

freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 7:12pm:

Quote: It started over 77 years ago ! No it didn't. That is no less idiotic than kicking off WWII again because you didn't like how the situation was left at half time. The current war clearly and unambiguously started because Hamas invaded Israel and took hostages. Anything else is spineless apologetics for a terrorist organisation. That's why even Muslim countries are saying it is Hamas' fault.

According to International law, Palestinians have a right to defend themselves against an illegal occupier, so no, they didn't start any war.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 7:45pm:

... Beirut................. I'm only in Beirut........ baclava ........ the sound of Lebanese jazz flows through the streets from various night spots.....  but I was looking for one special spot....... Al Jazeera... the Lebanese era of jazz .....and the name of a speak-easy run by my contact...... on a quiet night you could hear the thunder of  gunfire in Syria.. if you listened carefully you could almost hear the screams of the women and children left fatherless because the Islamists there executed the fathers as 'helpers of Israel' for asking for permission to move their families away from the endless fighting............. that kind of thing could flood over into here at any time...... so I was glad I had back-up ....

Stop using move.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 5:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:01am: So, Trump (the adjudicated rapist and convicted felon) tells Netanyahu to stop bombing and what does he do? He keeps bombing and kills some more children. Putin and Netanyahu are totally ignoring Trump. They have no obligation to do so - ...

Exactly!

So why do Trump and his cult members think they do?

Trump is nothing.  A nobody.

Why would Putin or Netanyahu give him the time of day?

Trump is a sycophantic coward beholden to Putin and Netanyahu.

They laugh at him behind his back.

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 7:53pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 7:12pm: Quote: It started over 77 years ago ! No it didn't. That is no less idiotic than kicking off WWII again because you didn't like how the situation was left at half time. The current war clearly and unambiguously started because Hamas invaded Israel and took hostages. Anything else is spineless apologetics for a terrorist organisation. That's why even Muslim countries are saying it is Hamas' fault. According to International law, Palestinians have a right to defend themselves against an illegal occupier, so no, they didn't start any war.

Hamas were clearly and unambiguously in contravention of international law when they invaded Israel and took hostages. No-one with an ounce of credibility is claiming otherwise. That's why even Muslim countries are now blaming Hamas. Anything else is spineless apologetics for a terrorist organisation.

freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 8:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 7:53pm: freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 7:12pm: Quote: It started over 77 years ago ! No it didn't. That is no less idiotic than kicking off WWII again because you didn't like how the situation was left at half time. The current war clearly and unambiguously started because Hamas invaded Israel and took hostages. Anything else is spineless apologetics for a terrorist organisation. That's why even Muslim countries are saying it is Hamas' fault. According to International law, Palestinians have a right to defend themselves against an illegal occupier, so no, they didn't start any war. Hamas were clearly and unambiguously in contravention of international law when they invaded Israel and took hostages. No-one with an ounce of credibility is claiming otherwise.

Correct.

And now Netanyahu is committing genocide.

No-one with an ounce of credibility is claiming otherwise.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 8:05pm:

Correct. And now Netanyahu is committing genocide. No-one with an ounce of credibility is claiming otherwise.

Israel has no strategic depth -
from any border:
Lebanon, Syria, Jordan & Egypt -

it's only a one hour drive in a tank to Tel Aviv.
How long can they really last?

According to the rules Israel has the right to attack someone who has declared war and carried out attacks on it.. There endeth the lesson.  Israel is not 'invading' - it is suppressing those who declared war on it and attacked it.

Israel has no strategic depth -
from any border:
Lebanon, Syria, Jordan & Egypt -

it's only a one hour drive in a tank to Tel Aviv.
How long can they really last?

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 8:18pm:

According to the rules Israel has the right to attack someone who has declared war and carried out attacks on it..

Pregnant women, children and babies haven't done that, but that's who Netanyahu is deliberately targeting.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 8:05pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 8:02pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 7:53pm: freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 7:12pm: Quote: It started over 77 years ago ! No it didn't. That is no less idiotic than kicking off WWII again because you didn't like how the situation was left at half time. The current war clearly and unambiguously started because Hamas invaded Israel and took hostages. Anything else is spineless apologetics for a terrorist organisation. That's why even Muslim countries are saying it is Hamas' fault. According to International law, Palestinians have a right to defend themselves against an illegal occupier, so no, they didn't start any war. Hamas were clearly and unambiguously in contravention of international law when they invaded Israel and took hostages. No-one with an ounce of credibility is claiming otherwise. Correct. And now Netanyahu is committing genocide. No-one with an ounce of credibility is claiming otherwise.

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/09/11/uk-government-rejects-determination-of-israeli-genocide-in-gaza/


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UK Government Rejects Determination of Israeli ‘Genocide’ in Gaza

When I asked people to explain how the UN reached its recent conclusion of genocide, all I got was blank stares and deflections. Happy to bump the thread for you if you want another go.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/israel-has-committed-genocide-gaza-strip-un-commission-finds

Deep is the insanity - shallow the knowledge - of these ones.

You can teach an idiot up to the limits of his abilities - you cannot teach a fool.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 8:42pm:

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/israel-has-committed-genocide-gaza-strip-un-commission-finds

yep - genocide -
it's the stuffed world we live in.

After 9/11  in 2001 how many people died in the retribution?
Was it 1 million? - maybe a lot more  - 2 million?
Sanctions on Iraq killed at least half of them.
People died in Afghanistan and Syria too.
How many innocent people died who had nothing to do with 9/11?

How many innocent people have died in Gaza -
my bet is that it's more than 50,000.

Quote:

Was it 1 million? - maybe a lot more  - 2 million? Sanctions on Iraq killed at least half of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_against_Iraq


Quote:

which means that "there was no major rise in child mortality in Iraq after 1990 and during the period of the sanctions."

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 8:18pm:

According to the rules Israel has the right to attack someone who has declared war and carried out attacks on it.. There endeth the lesson.  Israel is not 'invading' - it is suppressing those who declared war on it and attacked it.

And someone who illegally occupies another's land doesn't have the right to defend themselves !!

According to international law Palestinians have every right to defend themselves against an illegal occupier !!

And today's reminder of the illegal occupiers' aggression towards Gaza and its people.

Only psychopaths would defend these attrocities :(

Israeli strikes in Gaza City destroy mosque and residential tower

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/inu2p5e7ejk

freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 9:00pm:

Quote: Was it 1 million? - maybe a lot more  - 2 million? Sanctions on Iraq killed at least half of them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_against_Iraq [quote]which means that "there was no major rise in child mortality in Iraq after 1990 and during the period of the sanctions."

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Legacy

In a 1998 fatwā, al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden cited the sanctions against Iraq as a justification for attacks against Americans. Bin Laden stated that the sanctions had caused the deaths of 1.5 million Iraqi children in an effort "to destroy Iraq, the most powerful neighboring Arab state."[79]

In a 2015 article in the journal International Affairs, Francesco Giumelli noted that the UNSC had largely abandoned comprehensive sanctions in favor of targeted sanctions since the mid-1990s, with the controversy over the efficacy and civilian harms attributed to the Iraq sanctions playing a significant role in the change: "The sanctions imposed on Iraq in 1990 covered all goods entering or leaving the entire country, whereas those imposed today are most often directed against individuals or non-state entities, and are more limited in scope. ... The widespread view ... that 500,000 Iraqi children died as a result of UN comprehensive sanctions itself rang the death knell for the perceived utility of comprehensive measures.

You are confused Nail. And sprouting terrorist-supporting nonsense. Do you hate Jews, or just love Islam?


Quote:

Bin Laden stated that

Ah.

freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 9:04pm:

You are confused Nail. And sprouting terrorist-supporting nonsense. Do you hate Jews, or just love Islam? Quote: Bin Laden stated that Ah.

Dear FD,
you need to look at it this way -
if YOU were living in Gaza the chances are that you'd be dead -
even though you are completely innocent.

freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 9:04pm:

You are confused Nail. And sprouting terrorist-supporting nonsense. Do you hate Jews, or just love Islam? Quote: Bin Laden stated that Ah.

Real jews or fake jews AKA Zionists ??

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Bobby. wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 9:06pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:04pm: You are confused Nail. And sprouting terrorist-supporting nonsense. Do you hate Jews, or just love Islam? Quote: Bin Laden stated that Ah. Dear FD, you need to look at it this way - if YOU were living in Gaza the chances are that you'd be dead - even though you are completely innocent.

What are the odds Bobby? Do the maths. You'll see it for the BS it is.

freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 9:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:06pm: freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:04pm: You are confused Nail. And sprouting terrorist-supporting nonsense. Do you hate Jews, or just love Islam? Quote: Bin Laden stated that Ah. Dear FD, you need to look at it this way - if YOU were living in Gaza the chances are that you'd be dead - even though you are completely innocent. What are the odds Bobby? Do the maths. You'll see it for the BS it is.

It's all true.
A sign of maturity is to be able to place yourself in the position of others.

There you are - living in peace in Gaza and a bomb drops on your head.

freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 9:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:06pm: freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:04pm: You are confused Nail. And sprouting terrorist-supporting nonsense. Do you hate Jews, or just love Islam? Quote: Bin Laden stated that Ah. Dear FD, you need to look at it this way - if YOU were living in Gaza the chances are that you'd be dead - even though you are completely innocent. What are the odds Bobby? Do the maths. You'll see it for the BS it is.

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Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 9:29pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:13pm: Bobby. wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:06pm: freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:04pm: You are confused Nail. And sprouting terrorist-supporting nonsense. Do you hate Jews, or just love Islam? Quote: Bin Laden stated that Ah. Dear FD, you need to look at it this way - if YOU were living in Gaza the chances are that you'd be dead - even though you are completely innocent. What are the odds Bobby? Do the maths. You'll see it for the BS it is.

UK Police Still Searching For Motive Of Terrorist Named 'Jihad Jewkiller'

"So far we have no idea why Mr. Jewkiller would have attacked a synagogue," U.K. police officer Cecil Landers told reporters. "His social media profile, replete with messages about conducting a jihad against the Jews, has so far been unhelpful. We promise that we will continue to investigate what could have motivated such a surprising rampage."

Jewkiller's family said the man is fueled by deep hatred for members of the Jewish faith and that he often mentioned a desire to do harm to the community, further confusing officers working on the case. "Our leading theory is that evil right-wing extremists were being Islamophobic," explained Landers. "Yet, witnesses report that Mr. Jewkiller shouted 'I hate the Jews! I'm doing this because I hate the Jews,' It's left us with quite the puzzle."

At publishing time, British police had announced that to keep people safe they would go ahead and burn down any remaining synagogues in Britain.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 9:23pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:13pm: Bobby. wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:06pm: freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:04pm: You are confused Nail. And sprouting terrorist-supporting nonsense. Do you hate Jews, or just love Islam? Quote: Bin Laden stated that Ah. Dear FD, you need to look at it this way - if YOU were living in Gaza the chances are that you'd be dead - even though you are completely innocent. What are the odds Bobby? Do the maths. You'll see it for the BS it is. It's all true. A sign of maturity is to be able to place yourself in the position of others. There you are - living in peace in Gaza and a bomb drops on your head.

A sign of maturity is to be able to do the maths yourself.

Gnads wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2025 at 2:05pm:

Sophia wrote on Oct 2nd, 2025 at 9:36am: Why….stop medicine and food to the war torn victims? Greta Thunberg detained as Israel intercepts Gaza-bound aid flotilla https://apple.news/AKSSZIlmaQPy3FnEDZJ9-_g It’s evil….and don’t say all’s fair in love and war. Sorry .... but Thunberg hasn't got diddly squat ... it's all a publicity stunt. Foreign citizens and boats have no right or reason to be there. She should piss off home - she doesn't belong near a war zone & as such she is putting herself & her dinky flotilla in harms way. The Israelis are not stopping food or medicines going into Gaza. Hamas is stopping more than anything/anybody else.

Yes you are right instead Israel pays people to steal the food and then blame it on Khamas.


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This is what Professor Jean-Pierre Filiu witnessed in Gaza: the rise of the Abu Shabab gang, a mafia-like paramilitary organization, brutal, opportunistic, and… Israeli-backed. The Abu Shabab are more than just street gangs. They are the result of a mutation of persistent suffering: starvation, destruction, and deliberate chaos. In Filiu's report, this gang monopolizes the aid entering Gaza. They loot aid trucks, sell their goods on the black market, and create a “law of the jungle” situation that further devastates Gaza's civilians. But what makes this story truly dark is the fact that Israel supplies them with weapons, a policy Filiu calls a “tragic paradox.” “One of the most glaring examples of this dangerous blindness is Israel's support for the Abu Shabab gang.” This gang is not only weakening Hamas, Israel's primary enemy, but is also destroying the civil order and social trust of Gazans.

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freediver wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 7:44am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:23pm: freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:13pm: Bobby. wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:06pm: freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 9:04pm: You are confused Nail. And sprouting terrorist-supporting nonsense. Do you hate Jews, or just love Islam? Quote: Bin Laden stated that Ah. Dear FD, you need to look at it this way - if YOU were living in Gaza the chances are that you'd be dead - even though you are completely innocent. What are the odds Bobby? Do the maths. You'll see it for the BS it is. It's all true. A sign of maturity is to be able to place yourself in the position of others. There you are - living in peace in Gaza and a bomb drops on your head. A sign of maturity is to be able to do the maths yourself.

I see it as a civil war and it's Israel destroying itself.

That's very creative of you Bobby.

Well - it'll all be over soon - this phase anyway - then into the quiet insurrection.  Nothing changes.

freediver wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 2:32pm:

That's very creative of you Bobby.

Yes - it's my formerly unrecognized genius.    :P

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 20^th, 2025 at 10:01am:

Gaza genocide death toll revised up – now over 680,000, including almost half a million children https://www.thecanary.co/skwawkbox/2025/09/12/gaza-death-toll-lancet/ Quote: As Skwawkbox has previously reported, the death toll in Gaza from Israel’s genocidal war on civilians has far exceeded media reports for the best part of two years – around 450,000 by the summer, almost all of them civilians, according to the Israeli military’s own data. But the latest analysis published in medical journal The Lancet puts the estimated death toll far higher – and the proportion of children among the victims of Israel’s terrorism even higher than the fifty percent previously estimated. Israel’s genocidal campaign sees Gaza death toll increased. Amid Israel’s wholesale destruction of Gaza, as many as 120,000 bodies remain unrecovered and therefore not included in official death figures, but the impact of starvation and disease after months of Israel’s blockade of food and even basic medicines has now overtaken the toll of those murdered violently by the occupation. A study by the Lancet based on the slaughter of the first nine months of the Israeli-imposed Gaza massacre found that the total number of violent deaths by April 2025, almost five months ago, was 136,000. The Lancet also estimated at least four ‘indirect’ deaths from starvation, disease and other causes linked to the genocide but not directly caused by violence, for every violent death. Even using that “conservative” figure, the 136,000 violent deaths by April mean 544,000 Palestinian deaths from the imposed deprivation. This means a total Gaza death toll from Israel’s genocide so far would be a staggering 680,000 deaths – by 25 April this year – and much higher now, after five more months of mass murder and starvation. And as lawyer Ali Jamal Awad noted, the study also puts the number of babies and children murdered at a far higher proportion of the total than the fifty percent estimated previously:     On September 3, 2025, Dr. Gideon Polya and Professor Richard Hil calculated the total death toll for Gaza since October 7.     My fingers are shaking as I’m writing this.     Based on all the data collected, the death toll in Gaza is at least 680,000.     But even worse, 380,000 are infants under five years of age, 99,000 children five or older, 63,000 women and 138,000 men. Israel launched its genocide in Gaza on a claim that Palestinian fighters had beheaded babies and baked them in ovens on 7 October 2023. None of that was true. But the terror state has committed a slaughter of infants and children on a scale that Skwawkbox wishes were unimaginable – and a scale higher by a factor of more than ten than the ‘63,000’ that the BBC and other UK media persist in using, a horrific enough number but one that doesn’t even come close to reality. Check it out !! 680,000 Palestinians DEAD In Gaza https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XXLT07IIxQ

Still insufficient for the Gazans to repent for 7 October, surrender and give up the hostages.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/559328065_18331299274225010_1459221515204586009_n-1.jpg

https://www.october7files.com/?fbclid=IwY2xjawNQi4FleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFHc3F0bnFlVHJySFh0c2U2AR43wv4XiH9Ts2IaSLo2oIdeETCjT4_5rpDlMkRQMbeqMgdRdSR5lqZMT-OqMw_aem_smAV_pJM6CqcPX33VT2tGg

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 7:07pm:

Israel is an illegal settler colony :(

IMAGE.....
https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/pw_sign_22.gif


Psalms 83:1
Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.
2  For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
3  They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
4  They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
5  For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
6  The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
7  Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;




Long.....before ISLAMISTS invaded the Levant
.......WITH THEIR SWORDS.


Isaiah 35:4
Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.
5  Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.
6  Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.


Isaiah 40:5
And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
6  The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field:


Isaiah 41:8
But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.
9  Thou whom I have taken from the ends of the earth, and called thee from the chief men thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant; I have chosen thee, and not cast thee away.


Isaiah 41:10
Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.
11  Behold, all they that were incensed against thee shall be ashamed and confounded: they shall be as nothing; and they that strive with thee shall perish.
12  Thou shalt seek them, and shalt not find them, even them that contended with thee: they that war against thee shall be as nothing, and as a thing of nought.
13  For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.
14  Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.


Isaiah 43:1
But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine.



I WILL POUR MY SPIRIT UPON THY SEED, AND MY BLESSING UPON THINE OFFSPRING:

Isaiah 44:2
Thus saith the LORD that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen.
3  For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring:


Isaiah 49:26
And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.


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ISRAEL IS MY SON, EVEN MY FIRSTBORN

Exodus 4:22
And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
23  And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.


Deuteronomy 32:8
When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance,
when he separated the sons of Adam,
he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.
9  For the LORD'S portion is his people;
Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.
10  He found him in a desert land,
and in the waste howling wilderness;
he led him about, he instructed him,
he kept him as the apple of his eye.

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 7:07pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 6:53pm: Quote: They never started it ! They invaded Israel and took hostages Nail. Do try to keep up. You don't read too well. It started over 77 years ago ! And Israel is an illegal settler colony :(

You need to think of a better line, bozo.
The Muslims are illegal invaders throughout the middle east and north Africa.

freediver wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 8:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 7:53pm: freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 7:12pm: Quote: It started over 77 years ago ! No it didn't. That is no less idiotic than kicking off WWII again because you didn't like how the situation was left at half time. The current war clearly and unambiguously started because Hamas invaded Israel and took hostages. Anything else is spineless apologetics for a terrorist organisation. That's why even Muslim countries are saying it is Hamas' fault. According to International law, Palestinians have a right to defend themselves against an illegal occupier, so no, they didn't start any war. Hamas were clearly and unambiguously in contravention of international law when they invaded Israel and took hostages. No-one with an ounce of credibility is claiming otherwise. That's why even Muslim countries are now blaming Hamas. Anything else is spineless apologetics for a terrorist organisation.

And how many Palestinians have been illegally imprisoned in Israel's jails without access to proper legal process and well before Oct 7 ??

Do you know about this FD ? Explains a lot ;)

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Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 9^th, 2025 at 3:39pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 8:02pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 7:53pm: freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 7:12pm: Quote: It started over 77 years ago ! No it didn't. That is no less idiotic than kicking off WWII again because you didn't like how the situation was left at half time. The current war clearly and unambiguously started because Hamas invaded Israel and took hostages. Anything else is spineless apologetics for a terrorist organisation. That's why even Muslim countries are saying it is Hamas' fault. According to International law, Palestinians have a right to defend themselves against an illegal occupier, so no, they didn't start any war. Hamas were clearly and unambiguously in contravention of international law when they invaded Israel and took hostages. No-one with an ounce of credibility is claiming otherwise. That's why even Muslim countries are now blaming Hamas. Anything else is spineless apologetics for a terrorist organisation. And how many Palestinians have been illegally imprisoned in Israel's jails without access to proper legal process and well before Oct 7 ?? Do you know about this FD ? Explains a lot ;)

How many?

And why don't you explain what that headline means?

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 9^th, 2025 at 3:39pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 8:02pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 7:53pm: freediver wrote on Oct 5th, 2025 at 7:12pm: Quote: It started over 77 years ago ! No it didn't. That is no less idiotic than kicking off WWII again because you didn't like how the situation was left at half time. The current war clearly and unambiguously started because Hamas invaded Israel and took hostages. Anything else is spineless apologetics for a terrorist organisation. That's why even Muslim countries are saying it is Hamas' fault. According to International law, Palestinians have a right to defend themselves against an illegal occupier, so no, they didn't start any war. Hamas were clearly and unambiguously in contravention of international law when they invaded Israel and took hostages. No-one with an ounce of credibility is claiming otherwise. That's why even Muslim countries are now blaming Hamas. Anything else is spineless apologetics for a terrorist organisation. And how many Palestinians have been illegally imprisoned in Israel's jails without access to proper legal process and well before Oct 7 ?? Do you know about this FD ? Explains a lot ;)

What does it explain Nail? Can you use your big boy words?