The First Amendment protects freedom of speech but just as other Amendments are ignored for convenience it is being thrown out with the dishwater.
People who have expressed satisfaction over Charlie Kirk’s murder are being hunted on the internet, their identities and their details extracted and then published and/or sent to their employers, thus resulting in many losing their jobs.

I can’t bring up any direct links for some reason but Google  ‘’sackings over kirk murder opinions ‘’ and they will appear.

What a charade for democracy.

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 11:56am:

The First Amendment protects freedom of speech but just as other Amendments are ignored for convenience it is being thrown out with the dishwater. People who have expressed satisfaction over Charlie Kirk’s murder are being hunted on the internet, their identities and their details extracted and then published and/or sent to their employers, thus resulting in many losing their jobs. [url] sackings over kirk murder opinions[/url]

What is your grievance here, people don't have freedom of speech for their hatred of Kirk or the freedom of speech to call out those using hate speech against Kirk.

Leroy wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 12:07pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 11:56am: The First Amendment protects freedom of speech but just as other Amendments are ignored for convenience it is being thrown out with the dishwater. People who have expressed satisfaction over Charlie Kirk’s murder are being hunted on the internet, their identities and their details extracted and then published and/or sent to their employers, thus resulting in many losing their jobs. [url] sackings over kirk murder opinions[/url] What is your grievance here, people don't have freedom of speech for their hatred of Kirk or the freedom of speech to call out those using hate speech against Kirk.

While you were posting I was doing a modification looking for a link that I could post, see above for clarification.

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 11:56am:

The First Amendment protects freedom of speech but just as other Amendments are ignored for convenience it is being thrown out with the dishwater. People who have expressed satisfaction over Charlie Kirk’s murder are being hunted on the internet, their identities and their details extracted and then published and/or sent to their employers, thus resulting in many losing their jobs. I can’t bring up any direct links for some reason but Google  ‘’sackings over kirk murder opinions ‘’ and they will appear. What a charade for democracy.

They exercised their freedom of speech and their employers exercised their freedom to fire a CeeUNextTuesday.

At least they weren't shot in the jugular by a far left indoctrinated tranny rooter.

Next?

Isn't opposing Charlie Kirk's views freedom of speech....Calling for harm of those with opposing views is not confined to any one ideology???

:-? :-? :-?

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 11:56am:

The First Amendment protects freedom of speech but just as other Amendments are ignored for convenience it is being thrown out with the dishwater. People who have expressed satisfaction over Charlie Kirk’s murder are being hunted on the internet, their identities and their details extracted and then published and/or sent to their employers, thus resulting in many losing their jobs. I can’t bring up any direct links for some reason but Google  ‘’sackings over kirk murder opinions ‘’ and they will appear. What a charade for democracy.

The lefties will sack you for calling a transvestite man a "he" - i.e. for not lying.


But now, suddenly, when they are celebrating murder, they are free speech absolutists. Their hypocrisy, like their stupidity, is breathtaking.

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 12:12pm:

Isn't opposing Charlie Kirk's views freedom of speech....Calling for harm of those with opposing views is not confined to any one ideology??? :-? :-? :-?

Opposing his views are fine. Celebrating his death is also freedom of speech and an employer has every right to fire someone for being a wankbag.

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 12:12pm:

Isn't opposing Charlie Kirk's views freedom of speech....Calling for harm of those with opposing views is not confined to any one ideology??? :-? :-? :-?

Celebrating the criminal assassination of a person is not simply opposing his views.

Leroy wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 12:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 12:12pm: Isn't opposing Charlie Kirk's views freedom of speech....Calling for harm of those with opposing views is not confined to any one ideology??? :-? :-? :-? Celebrating the criminal assassination of a person is not simply opposing his views.

But it's okay for Trump to say he can go out on a street in New York City and shoot someone and not lose any votes but probably gain votes, right?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 12:25pm:

Leroy wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 12:23pm: philperth2010 wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 12:12pm: Isn't opposing Charlie Kirk's views freedom of speech....Calling for harm of those with opposing views is not confined to any one ideology??? :-? :-? :-? Celebrating the criminal assassination of a person is not simply opposing his views. But it's okay for Trump to say he can go out on a street in New York City and shoot someone and not lose any votes but probably gain votes, right?

:D :D :D


Not even you think that your response is in anyway comparable.
Ludicrous.


You ARE, like other lefties, peddle twisty c_nty misinterpretations and misrepresentations for cheap, stupid TDS emotional frissons.
Hideous.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 12:25pm:

Leroy wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 12:23pm: philperth2010 wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 12:12pm: Isn't opposing Charlie Kirk's views freedom of speech....Calling for harm of those with opposing views is not confined to any one ideology??? :-? :-? :-? Celebrating the criminal assassination of a person is not simply opposing his views. But it's okay for Trump to say he can go out on a street in New York City and shoot someone and not lose any votes but probably gain votes, right?

That is TDS having as effect on your thinking. you have a responsibility for your own speech regardless of what Trump thinks says or does.

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 11:56am:

The First Amendment protects freedom of speech but just as other Amendments are ignored for convenience it is being thrown out with the dishwater. People who have expressed satisfaction over Charlie Kirk’s murder are being hunted on the internet, their identities and their details extracted and then published and/or sent to their employers, thus resulting in many losing their jobs. I can’t bring up any direct links for some reason but Google  ‘’sackings over kirk murder opinions ‘’ and they will appear. What a charade for democracy.

They lose their jobs for their opinions celebrating a mans murder.

Charlie Kirks loses his life for his opinions

and you think that is a fair comparison in making a constitutional point on democracy?

Shame on you.

Gordon wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 12:11pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 11:56am: The First Amendment protects freedom of speech but just as other Amendments are ignored for convenience it is being thrown out with the dishwater. People who have expressed satisfaction over Charlie Kirk’s murder are being hunted on the internet, their identities and their details extracted and then published and/or sent to their employers, thus resulting in many losing their jobs. I can’t bring up any direct links for some reason but Google  ‘’sackings over kirk murder opinions ‘’ and they will appear. What a charade for democracy. They exercised their freedom of speech and their employers exercised their freedom to fire a CeeUNextTuesday. At least they weren't shot in the jugular by a far left indoctrinated tranny rooter. Next?

Either was Kirk.

He was shot by a far-right, MAGA, white, Christian extremist.

Leroy wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 12:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 12:12pm: Isn't opposing Charlie Kirk's views freedom of speech....Calling for harm of those with opposing views is not confined to any one ideology??? :-? :-? :-? Celebrating the criminal assassination of a person is not simply opposing his views.

I disagree, I think it's perfectly fine to rejoice someones death but consequences such as the resulting unemployment are also fine.

Freedom of speech and non-violent repercussions are perfectly compatible.

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 12:12pm:

Isn't opposing Charlie Kirk's views freedom of speech....Calling for harm of those with opposing views is not confined to any one ideology??? :-? :-? :-?

Kirk is dead - they're alive

They weren't merely opposing his views - one of them killed him whilst many others have celebrated Kirks death.

what's your point?

Gnads wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 12:42pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 11:56am: The First Amendment protects freedom of speech but just as other Amendments are ignored for convenience it is being thrown out with the dishwater. People who have expressed satisfaction over Charlie Kirk’s murder are being hunted on the internet, their identities and their details extracted and then published and/or sent to their employers, thus resulting in many losing their jobs. I can’t bring up any direct links for some reason but Google  ‘’sackings over kirk murder opinions ‘’ and they will appear. What a charade for democracy. They lose their jobs for their opinions celebrating a mans murder. Charlie Kirks loses his life for his opinions and you think that is a fair comparison in making a constitutional point on democracy? Shame on you.

Celebrating his senseless murder is wrong, in my opinion.

However, free speech is free speech.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 12:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 12:11pm: Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 11:56am: The First Amendment protects freedom of speech but just as other Amendments are ignored for convenience it is being thrown out with the dishwater. People who have expressed satisfaction over Charlie Kirk’s murder are being hunted on the internet, their identities and their details extracted and then published and/or sent to their employers, thus resulting in many losing their jobs. I can’t bring up any direct links for some reason but Google  ‘’sackings over kirk murder opinions ‘’ and they will appear. What a charade for democracy. They exercised their freedom of speech and their employers exercised their freedom to fire a CeeUNextTuesday. At least they weren't shot in the jugular by a far left indoctrinated tranny rooter. Next? Either was Kirk. He was shot by a far-right, MAGA, white, Christian extremist.

You wouldn't know.

Didn’t take long to degenerate into the usual name calling, as usual.
One thing that all are missing is that supposedly private [that is disguised] posts are being accessed and personal info being then shared with others.

Surely that’s wrong, if it spreads to Australia some of you may be looking for a job.

It is worth pointing out that under Trump, this clampdown on free speech was happening well before Charlie Kirk was murdered. One instance is when Trump press secretary Karoline Leavitt went around the White House Correspondents' Association and excluded certain media organisations based purely on their coverage of Trump. Traditionally, the press pool has been rotational and organised independently by the White House Correspondents' Association to ensure fair, unbiased coverage of the President and to ensure access was rotated fairly and regularly. Not anymore. Now she decides who gets access to Trump and it's clear there's only one criteria: how flattering their reporting of Trump (and his cabinet) is.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 2:11pm:

It is worth pointing out that under Trump, this clampdown on free speech was happening well before Charlie Kirk was murdered. One instance is when Trump press secretary Karoline Leavitt went around the White House Correspondents' Association and excluded certain media organisations based purely on their coverage of Trump. Traditionally, the press pool has been rotational and organised independently by the White House Correspondents' Association to ensure fair, unbiased coverage of the President and to ensure access was rotated fairly and regularly. Not anymore. Now she decides who gets access to Trump and it's clear there's only one criteria: how flattering their reporting of Trump (and his cabinet) is.

Such a vile creature, that one.

Gold-digging, fake Christian.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 2:12pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 2:11pm: It is worth pointing out that under Trump, this clampdown on free speech was happening well before Charlie Kirk was murdered. One instance is when Trump press secretary Karoline Leavitt went around the White House Correspondents' Association and excluded certain media organisations based purely on their coverage of Trump. Traditionally, the press pool has been rotational and organised independently by the White House Correspondents' Association to ensure fair, unbiased coverage of the President and to ensure access was rotated fairly and regularly. Not anymore. Now she decides who gets access to Trump and it's clear there's only one criteria: how flattering their reporting of Trump (and his cabinet) is. Such a vile creature, that one. Gold-digging, fake Christian.

I wouldn't trust her if she told me the grass is green.

Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 12:37pm:

You ARE, like other lefties, peddle twisty c_nty misinterpretations and misrepresentations for cheap, stupid TDS emotional frissons. Hideous.

Do you not see the irony in your emotional meltdown?

Or were you just quoting someone again...  ::)

Sack 'em all ... sack 'em all...
The ballshitters, liars and all
Sack all the losers who hate charlie Kirk
And make it certain they'll never find work

Sack 'em all, sack all, sack 'em all ..
They'll know that they fumbled the ball
There's no more promotion
In that jobless ocean
So cheer as the boss sacks them all......

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15^th, 2025 at 6:39pm:

Sack 'em all ... sack 'em all... The ballshitters, liars and all Sack all the losers who hate charlie Kirk And make it certain they'll never find work Sack 'em all, sack all, sack 'em all .. They'll know that they fumbled the ball There's no more promotion In that jobless ocean So cheer as the boss sacks them all......

The anti-cancel culture right ladies and gentlemen.

Laugh at 'em all, laugh at 'em all,
The hypocrites, grifters and all,
They screeched 'cancel culture is killing free speech!'
Now they bay for the sack, practising what they preach?

Laugh at 'em all, laugh at 'em all,
Their principles thinner than Trump's wall,
When children were slaughtered, Kirk shrugged 'That's the cost,'
But now that he's shot, all their morals are lost.

They said gun deaths were freedom's fair fee,
A price Kirk himself claimed from others with glee,
Yet the moment it's theirs, they scream and they bawl,
Cancel the critics, sack 'em all!

And Grappler, the 'truth teller,' what a farce, what a fraud,
Spews bile and mistruths while pretending to laud,
A clown in denial, a puppet on call,
A liar, a hack, hypocrite all!

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16^th, 2025 at 7:56am:

Laugh at 'em all, laugh at 'em all, The hypocrites, grifters and all, They screeched 'cancel culture is killing free speech!' Now they bay for the sack, practising what they preach? Laugh at 'em all, laugh at 'em all, Their principles thinner than Trump's wall, When children were slaughtered, Kirk shrugged 'That's the cost,' But now that he's shot, all their morals are lost. They said gun deaths were freedom's fair fee, A price Kirk himself claimed from others with glee, Yet the moment it's theirs, they scream and they bawl, Cancel the critics, sack 'em all! And Grappler, the 'truth teller,' what a farce, what a fraud, Spews bile and mistruths while pretending to laud, A clown in denial, a puppet on call, A liar, a hack, hypocrite all!

Never thought you had an ounce of artistic talent in you- just goes to show.. must've taken some work there .... one thing, though - be wary of your chosen point in the polarisation - and always remember that when they said the nation was becoming polarised - they weren't discussing bi-polar.  (see picture) ..

Anyone who is nasty and vicious about the senseless killing of another person and then seeks to make it a political platform at work is prey to their own stupidity... and it's about time some of these clowns realised there are consequences... same as the tranny boy wil find out when the death sentence is handed down... that is where the real theatre is going to be...

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/two-white-polar-bear-cubs-260nw-1724607019.jpg

I find it ironic that the left are suddenly championing 'free speech' now they have discovered that their gloating over a murder has consequences. These are the same people who introduced the cancel culture to prevent the expression of ideas they did not approve of and were quick to use violence and intimidation to shut speakers down.  ::)

Belgarion wrote on Sep 16^th, 2025 at 10:00am:

I find it ironic that the left are suddenly championing 'free speech' now they have discovered that their gloating over a murder has consequences. These are the same people who introduced the cancel culture to prevent the expression of ideas they did not approve of and were quick to use violence and intimidation to shut speakers down.  ::)

No one is gloating, and where was the outpouring of grief and military escorts and flags at half staff when Democrat Melissa Hortman, her husband and their dog were brutally murdered? Where was the prayers in Congress? Seems like only Republican Lives Matter, eh?

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 1:02pm:

Didn’t take long to degenerate into the usual name calling, as usual. One thing that all are missing is that supposedly private [that is disguised] posts are being accessed and personal info being then shared with others. Surely that’s wrong, if it spreads to Australia some of you may be looking for a job.

At least they'd still be alive .... no one is trying to kill those lefty ignoramuses.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 16^th, 2025 at 11:19am:

Belgarion wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 10:00am: I find it ironic that the left are suddenly championing 'free speech' now they have discovered that their gloating over a murder has consequences. These are the same people who introduced the cancel culture to prevent the expression of ideas they did not approve of and were quick to use violence and intimidation to shut speakers down.  ::) No one is gloating, and where was the outpouring of grief and military escorts and flags at half staff when Democrat Melissa Hortman, her husband and their dog were brutally murdered? Where was the prayers in Congress? Seems like only Republican Lives Matter, eh?

Yes they were ..... openly... and all over social media.

Charlie Kirk, 2023:

"I know what you're thinking, we've got to get Joe Biden out of the way so we can run against Kammy. Oh my goodness, is she beatable. ... Biden should be put in prison and/or given the death penalty".

[quote author=greggerypeccary link=1757815008/30#30 date=1757993310]
Charlie Kirk, 2023:

"I know what you're thinking, we've got to get Joe Biden out of the way so we can run against Kammy. Oh my goodness, is she beatable. ... Biden should be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for crimes against America ".[/quote]


Well, the death penalty has been meted out for treason.

Kirk's point was that Biden's border policies amounted to treason and crimes against America.

Is enabling and facilitating a large scale foreign invasion treason? Is opening the city gates to invaders treason?
Is the death penalty a fitting punishment for treason?

Frank wrote on Sep 16^th, 2025 at 3:02pm:

[quote author=greggerypeccary link=1757815008/30#30 date=1757993310] Charlie Kirk, 2023: "I know what you're thinking, we've got to get Joe Biden out of the way so we can run against Kammy. Oh my goodness, is she beatable. ... Biden should be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for crimes against America ".

Well, the death penalty has been meted out for treason.

Kirk's point was that Biden's border policies amounted to treason and crimes against America.

Is enabling and facilitating a large scale foreign invasion treason? Is opening the city gates to invaders treason?
Is the death penalty a fitting punishment for treason?

[/quote]


It seems that Presidents have immunity from prosecution?

Treason is to give comfort and aid to an enemy in a time of war.
I don't think America had declared war on illegal immigrants?

Frank wrote on Sep 16^th, 2025 at 3:02pm:

Kirk's point was that ...

... he wanted a sitting President summarily executed in order for Trump to win the election.

Yes, we know.

He was a violent POS who will hopefully rot in hell.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2025 at 3:05pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 3:02pm: Kirk's point was that ... ... he wanted a sitting President summarily executed in order for Trump to win the election. Yes, we know. He was a violent POS who will hopefully rot in hell.

St Peter will ask him many questions but I'm sure he'll let him in.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2025 at 1:28pm:

Charlie Kirk, 2023: "I know what you're thinking, we've got to get Joe Biden out of the way so we can run against Kammy. Oh my goodness, is she beatable. ... Biden should be put in prison and/or given the death penalty".

Marla 2025

Beautiful is the sound of a bullet splintering the skull of Charlie Kirk .


I think we can ALL see the putrid deranged hatred of the left.

And yet, no comments on it.
Marla , a peer and comrade to all  ::) ::) ::)

aquascoot wrote on Sep 16^th, 2025 at 3:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 1:28pm: Charlie Kirk, 2023: "I know what you're thinking, we've got to get Joe Biden out of the way so we can run against Kammy. Oh my goodness, is she beatable. ... Biden should be put in prison and/or given the death penalty". Marla 2025 Beautiful is the sound of a bullet splintering the skull of Charlie Kirk .

Link?

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 3:22pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 1:28pm: Charlie Kirk, 2023: "I know what you're thinking, we've got to get Joe Biden out of the way so we can run against Kammy. Oh my goodness, is she beatable. ... Biden should be put in prison and/or given the death penalty". Marla 2025 Beautiful is the sound of a bullet splintering the skull of Charlie Kirk . Link?

As bad as this cow:

https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/f5/f6/a0/f5f6a0a4a1ba40bfccd44128b5fdb16c.mp4

Charlie Kirk, 2023:

"I know what you're thinking, we've got to get Joe Biden out of the way so we can run against Kammy. Oh my goodness, is she beatable. ... Biden should be put in prison and/or given the death penalty".

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2025 at 7:24pm:

Charlie Kirk, 2023: "I know what you're thinking, we've got to get Joe Biden out of the way so we can run against Kammy. Oh my goodness, is she beatable. ... Biden should be put in prison and/or given the death penalty".

Link?

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2025 at 3:05pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 3:02pm: Kirk's point was that ... ... he wanted a sitting President summarily executed in order for Trump to win the election. Yes, we know. He was a violent POS who will hopefully rot in hell.

Link?

Frank wrote on Sep 17^th, 2025 at 7:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 3:05pm: Frank wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 3:02pm: Kirk's point was that ... ... he wanted a sitting President summarily executed in order for Trump to win the election. Yes, we know. He was a violent POS who will hopefully rot in hell. Link?

Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNRXG55cWXE