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Message started by Labor majority government on Sep 13th, 2025 at 7:56am

Title: Shooter identified
Post by Labor majority government on Sep 13th, 2025 at 7:56am
How will the rabid right spin it considering it was one of theirs behind the trigger?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Armchair_Politician on Sep 13th, 2025 at 8:54am

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 7:56am:
How will the rabid right spin it considering it was one of theirs behind the trigger?


Public records indicate that Robinson's last voter registration date was on July 13, 2021, and his political party is none declared. Don't you hate being proven wrong so often?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-charlie-kirk-shooting-tyler-robinson-rcna230504

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 13th, 2025 at 9:46am

Usual suspects.

White, male, natural-born US citizen.

So predictable.

It'll be interesting to see Frank try to pin this on tinted, Muslim immigrants.


Title: Rampant TDS display
Post by Leroy on Sep 13th, 2025 at 10:20am
By the usual.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 13th, 2025 at 10:58am
https://turnto10.com/news/nation-world/what-we-know-about-tyler-robinson-the-22-year-old-accused-of-assassinating-charlie-kirk-murder-killed-shot-shooting-death-investigation-rifle-gun-bullets-utah-valley-university-president-donald-trump-turning-point-usa

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Gnads on Sep 13th, 2025 at 11:20am

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 7:56am:
How will the rabid right spin it considering it was one of theirs behind the trigger?



He isn't RW you wanker. His family may have been Republican but their son is far removed from being RW.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Dnarever on Sep 13th, 2025 at 11:42am

Gnads wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 11:20am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 7:56am:
How will the rabid right spin it considering it was one of theirs behind the trigger?



He isn't RW you wanker. His family may have been Republican but their son is far removed from being RW.



Still a bit unknown as far as I can see.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 13th, 2025 at 12:05pm

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 7:56am:
How will the rabid right spin it considering it was one of theirs behind the trigger?


They'll do what they always do - lie.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 13th, 2025 at 12:40pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 11:20am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 7:56am:
How will the rabid right spin it considering it was one of theirs behind the trigger?



He isn't RW you wanker.


You wanna bet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4qKnfLly2E

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 13th, 2025 at 12:52pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 11:20am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 7:56am:
How will the rabid right spin it considering it was one of theirs behind the trigger?



He isn't RW you wanker. His family may have been Republican but their son is far removed from being RW.


It seems he personally donated to Trump's campaign.

He was a Groyper, which puts him even further to the right than Kirk ever dared wander.

So not only is he very much right with, he's fringe alt-right.

You know, the ones that the FBI and DHS have been warning about for more than 15 years now.

Nick Fuentes and his "America First" zealots rebranded themselves as Groypers, parasitically attaching to mainstream conservative events in order to undermine them from within. Their strategy was simple, stack Q&A sessions with loaded questions designed to expose the cowardice and contradictions of establishment conservatives, particularly Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA.

They cast themselves as the "true" Christians, nationalists and social conservatives, sneering at the "boomer" or "corporate" right as weak and compromised. Then came the absurdly named Groyper Wars of 2019, where these fanatics heckled Kirk, Don Jr. and others, pressing them with questions like:

Why support mass immigration if it changes America's demographics?

Why fight wars that only serve Israel?

Why platform openly gay activists if conservatism is supposedly Christian?

Framed as pious concern, their real agenda was the mainstreaming of antisemitism, homophobia and racial nationalism.

They took meme culture with religious seriousness, seeing it as a battlefield. That explains the grotesque meme-ridden inscriptions on the shooter's bullet casings.

This was red-on-red violence, MAGA's civil war finally spilling blood. And it is no surprise. When your entire ideology is hate, when your only debates are over who can outdo the other in bigotry, eventually someone pulls the trigger.

Trump, true to form, only made things worse.  Unlike other living Presidents who have called for unity, all Trump has done was a rallying cry to direct both factions' hatred outward at the left, all while pouring more fuel onto the fire.

This is the world so many here cheered for, and now that you've got it, the cowardice begins. The narrative shifts from calling for the death penalty for a "tranny shooter" to offering prayers for Kirk's killer, framed as what Kirk would have wanted, as though martyrdom cleanses rot.

I understand the rage on the right at this moment. But if you had the courage to look inward, you'd see the truth, your hearts are black, poisoned by an ideology that corrodes everything it touches.

Don't let Trump, the arsonist-in-chief, convince you to turn against your fellow human beings while he laughs at the fire he set.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 13th, 2025 at 1:02pm
So this guy - in his twisted world - considered Kirk a reactionary against the Right and thus an extreme leftie in reality?

Sort of in keeping with the looney left's idea that anyone to the left of Mahatma Gandhi is a Fascist?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 13th, 2025 at 1:16pm

None of this comes as a surprise to anyone.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 13th, 2025 at 1:26pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 1:02pm:
So this guy - in his twisted world - considered Kirk a reactionary against the Right and thus an extreme leftie in reality?

Sort of in keeping with the looney left's idea that anyone to the left of Mahatma Gandhi is a Fascist?


No, they don't consider TPUSA White Christian National ENOUGH.

Just because you see everyone and everything not as conservative as you as "leftist", doesn't mean everyone else in the world is as combative, fragile in their beliefs and deranged.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 13th, 2025 at 7:52pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 12:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 11:20am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 7:56am:
How will the rabid right spin it considering it was one of theirs behind the trigger?



He isn't RW you wanker. His family may have been Republican but their son is far removed from being RW.


It seems he personally donated to Trump's campaign.

He was a Groyper, which puts him even further to the right than Kirk ever dared wander.

So not only is he very much right with, he's fringe alt-right.

You know, the ones that the FBI and DHS have been warning about for more than 15 years now.

Nick Fuentes and his "America First" zealots rebranded themselves as Groypers, parasitically attaching to mainstream conservative events in order to undermine them from within. Their strategy was simple, stack Q&A sessions with loaded questions designed to expose the cowardice and contradictions of establishment conservatives, particularly Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA.

They cast themselves as the "true" Christians, nationalists and social conservatives, sneering at the "boomer" or "corporate" right as weak and compromised. Then came the absurdly named Groyper Wars of 2019, where these fanatics heckled Kirk, Don Jr. and others, pressing them with questions like:

Why support mass immigration if it changes America's demographics?

Why fight wars that only serve Israel?

Why platform openly gay activists if conservatism is supposedly Christian?

Framed as pious concern, their real agenda was the mainstreaming of antisemitism, homophobia and racial nationalism.

They took meme culture with religious seriousness, seeing it as a battlefield. That explains the grotesque meme-ridden inscriptions on the shooter's bullet casings.

This was red-on-red violence, MAGA's civil war finally spilling blood. And it is no surprise. When your entire ideology is hate, when your only debates are over who can outdo the other in bigotry, eventually someone pulls the trigger.

Trump, true to form, only made things worse.  Unlike other living Presidents who have called for unity, all Trump has done was a rallying cry to direct both factions' hatred outward at the left, all while pouring more fuel onto the fire.

This is the world so many here cheered for, and now that you've got it, the cowardice begins. The narrative shifts from calling for the death penalty for a "tranny shooter" to offering prayers for Kirk's killer, framed as what Kirk would have wanted, as though martyrdom cleanses rot.

I understand the rage on the right at this moment. But if you had the courage to look inward, you'd see the truth, your hearts are black, poisoned by an ideology that corrodes everything it touches.

Don't let Trump, the arsonist-in-chief, convince you to turn against your fellow human beings while he laughs at the fire he set.


Jesus!

Gnads just had his arse handed to him.

I suspect that when (if) he returns he'll call you a liar.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Labor majority government on Sep 13th, 2025 at 8:08pm
Right wing
Christian
White
Trump voter

The usual suspects , why are they so violent ?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 14th, 2025 at 1:41am
"evidence, according to Gardner, indicates that Robinson was confused ideologically."

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/kirk-suspect-far-from-central-casting-model-of-far-left-antifa-activist-here-s-why/ar-AA1MtNUD?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=08559c1b107c42c4e8f0b8e4fb05fc0d&ei=5

I'd wait for the info before jumping up and down and making such a fuss... at least we don't got Fuqdup freaks live next door to us!

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Labor majority government on Sep 14th, 2025 at 3:45am
Must've been the uni equivalent her went to... for a month thats at fault hey proud boys

Title: Re: Shooter identified as a homo
Post by Bobby. on Sep 14th, 2025 at 6:47am

He is a homo:



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/charlie-kirks-assassin-lived-transgender-partner-who-now-cooperating-fbi-sources

Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin lived with transgender partner who is now cooperating with FBI:

Officials
Tyler Robinson's transgender partner is being 'extremely cooperative' with the FBI, sources tell Fox News Digital


Brooke Singman By Brooke Singman Fox News
Published September 13, 2025


EXCLUSIVE: Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin lived with his transgender partner, senior-level FBI officials told Fox News Digital.

Bureau officials confirmed that Tyler Robinson, 22, was in a "romantic relationship" with the unnamed person, who is a male transitioning to a female, and that they shared an apartment in Saint George, Utah. Those FBI officials told Fox News Digital that Robinson's partner is fully cooperating with the FBI's investigation.

TRUMP PRAISES FBI DIRECTOR KASH PATEL FOR SPEEDY CAPTURE OF CHARLIE KIRK ASSASSIN

One FBI official told Fox News Digital the individual has been "extremely cooperative," and said the person "had no idea" Robinson was allegedly planning to assassinate the Turning Point USA founder. The person is not currently accused of any criminal activity in connection with the assassination.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Frank on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:08am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 12:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 11:20am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 7:56am:
How will the rabid right spin it considering it was one of theirs behind the trigger?



He isn't RW you wanker. His family may have been Republican but their son is far removed from being RW.


It seems he personally donated to Trump's campaign.

He was a Groyper, which puts him even further to the right than Kirk ever dared wander.

So not only is he very much right with, he's fringe alt-right.

You know, the ones that the FBI and DHS have been warning about for more than 15 years now.

Nick Fuentes and his "America First" zealots rebranded themselves as Groypers, parasitically attaching to mainstream conservative events in order to undermine them from within. Their strategy was simple, stack Q&A sessions with loaded questions designed to expose the cowardice and contradictions of establishment conservatives, particularly Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA.

They cast themselves as the "true" Christians, nationalists and social conservatives, sneering at the "boomer" or "corporate" right as weak and compromised. Then came the absurdly named Groyper Wars of 2019, where these fanatics heckled Kirk, Don Jr. and others, pressing them with questions like:

Why support mass immigration if it changes America's demographics?

Why fight wars that only serve Israel?

Why platform openly gay activists if conservatism is supposedly Christian?

Framed as pious concern, their real agenda was the mainstreaming of antisemitism, homophobia and racial nationalism.

They took meme culture with religious seriousness, seeing it as a battlefield. That explains the grotesque meme-ridden inscriptions on the shooter's bullet casings.

This was red-on-red violence, MAGA's civil war finally spilling blood. And it is no surprise. When your entire ideology is hate, when your only debates are over who can outdo the other in bigotry, eventually someone pulls the trigger.

Trump, true to form, only made things worse.  Unlike other living Presidents who have called for unity, all Trump has done was a rallying cry to direct both factions' hatred outward at the left, all while pouring more fuel onto the fire.

This is the world so many here cheered for, and now that you've got it, the cowardice begins. The narrative shifts from calling for the death penalty for a "tranny shooter" to offering prayers for Kirk's killer, framed as what Kirk would have wanted, as though martyrdom cleanses rot.

I understand the rage on the right at this moment. But if you had the courage to look inward, you'd see the truth, your hearts are black, poisoned by an ideology that corrodes everything it touches.

Don't let Trump, the arsonist-in-chief, convince you to turn against your fellow human beings while he laughs at the fire he set.


Stupid looney bollocks, sad. Idiotic.




Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Gnads on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:18am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 12:05pm:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 7:56am:
How will the rabid right spin it considering it was one of theirs behind the trigger?


They'll do what they always do - lie.


Don't be ridiculous it's the lefts forte...

you're a perfect example.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Gnads on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:26am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 7:52pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 12:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 11:20am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 7:56am:
How will the rabid right spin it considering it was one of theirs behind the trigger?



He isn't RW you wanker. His family may have been Republican but their son is far removed from being RW.


It seems he personally donated to Trump's campaign.

He was a Groyper, which puts him even further to the right than Kirk ever dared wander.

So not only is he very much right with, he's fringe alt-right.

You know, the ones that the FBI and DHS have been warning about for more than 15 years now.

Nick Fuentes and his "America First" zealots rebranded themselves as Groypers, parasitically attaching to mainstream conservative events in order to undermine them from within. Their strategy was simple, stack Q&A sessions with loaded questions designed to expose the cowardice and contradictions of establishment conservatives, particularly Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA.

They cast themselves as the "true" Christians, nationalists and social conservatives, sneering at the "boomer" or "corporate" right as weak and compromised. Then came the absurdly named Groyper Wars of 2019, where these fanatics heckled Kirk, Don Jr. and others, pressing them with questions like:

Why support mass immigration if it changes America's demographics?

Why fight wars that only serve Israel?

Why platform openly gay activists if conservatism is supposedly Christian?

Framed as pious concern, their real agenda was the mainstreaming of antisemitism, homophobia and racial nationalism.

They took meme culture with religious seriousness, seeing it as a battlefield. That explains the grotesque meme-ridden inscriptions on the shooter's bullet casings.

This was red-on-red violence, MAGA's civil war finally spilling blood. And it is no surprise. When your entire ideology is hate, when your only debates are over who can outdo the other in bigotry, eventually someone pulls the trigger.

Trump, true to form, only made things worse.  Unlike other living Presidents who have called for unity, all Trump has done was a rallying cry to direct both factions' hatred outward at the left, all while pouring more fuel onto the fire.

This is the world so many here cheered for, and now that you've got it, the cowardice begins. The narrative shifts from calling for the death penalty for a "tranny shooter" to offering prayers for Kirk's killer, framed as what Kirk would have wanted, as though martyrdom cleanses rot.

I understand the rage on the right at this moment. But if you had the courage to look inward, you'd see the truth, your hearts are black, poisoned by an ideology that corrodes everything it touches.

Don't let Trump, the arsonist-in-chief, convince you to turn against your fellow human beings while he laughs at the fire he set.


Jesus!

Gnads just had his arse handed to him.

I suspect that when (if) he returns he'll call you a liar.


So you pair of 'tards have 100 % proof that this 22 yr old was a member of that group?

What's more it would be better if Sad Sack could reference who actually wrote that material he posted because as sure as phuk he didn't write it.

Plagiarizing someone elses work - weak as piss.

Title: Re: Shooter identified as a homo
Post by Gnads on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:32am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 6:47am:
He is a homo:



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/charlie-kirks-assassin-lived-transgender-partner-who-now-cooperating-fbi-sources

Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin lived with transgender partner who is now cooperating with FBI:

Officials
Tyler Robinson's transgender partner is being 'extremely cooperative' with the FBI, sources tell Fox News Digital


Brooke Singman By Brooke Singman Fox News
Published September 13, 2025


EXCLUSIVE: Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin lived with his transgender partner, senior-level FBI officials told Fox News Digital.

Bureau officials confirmed that Tyler Robinson, 22, was in a "romantic relationship" with the unnamed person, who is a male transitioning to a female, and that they shared an apartment in Saint George, Utah. Those FBI officials told Fox News Digital that Robinson's partner is fully cooperating with the FBI's investigation.

TRUMP PRAISES FBI DIRECTOR KASH PATEL FOR SPEEDY CAPTURE OF CHARLIE KIRK ASSASSIN

One FBI official told Fox News Digital the individual has been "extremely cooperative," and said the person "had no idea" Robinson was allegedly planning to assassinate the Turning Point USA founder. The person is not currently accused of any criminal activity in connection with the assassination.



Well the FBI don't deserve any credit - they did SFA .... he was bought in by his father(a retired Police Officer) and a Marshall who is a Youth Minister.

That aside if what is said above about him having a tranny partner that would explain some of the shyte he scribbled on the rifle & ammunition.

And good ultra RWingers aren't homos & in relationships with transvestites.

He wouldn't pass muster.

Let alone what was reported about what he said in his family conversations regarding Kirk & his appearance at the University in question.

Title: Re: Shooter identified as a homo
Post by Armchair_Politician on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:40am

Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:32am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 6:47am:
He is a homo:



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/charlie-kirks-assassin-lived-transgender-partner-who-now-cooperating-fbi-sources

Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin lived with transgender partner who is now cooperating with FBI:

Officials
Tyler Robinson's transgender partner is being 'extremely cooperative' with the FBI, sources tell Fox News Digital


Brooke Singman By Brooke Singman Fox News
Published September 13, 2025


EXCLUSIVE: Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin lived with his transgender partner, senior-level FBI officials told Fox News Digital.

Bureau officials confirmed that Tyler Robinson, 22, was in a "romantic relationship" with the unnamed person, who is a male transitioning to a female, and that they shared an apartment in Saint George, Utah. Those FBI officials told Fox News Digital that Robinson's partner is fully cooperating with the FBI's investigation.

TRUMP PRAISES FBI DIRECTOR KASH PATEL FOR SPEEDY CAPTURE OF CHARLIE KIRK ASSASSIN

One FBI official told Fox News Digital the individual has been "extremely cooperative," and said the person "had no idea" Robinson was allegedly planning to assassinate the Turning Point USA founder. The person is not currently accused of any criminal activity in connection with the assassination.



Well the FBI don't deserve any credit - they did SFA .... he was bought in by his father(a retired Police Officer) and a Marshall who is a Youth Minister.


Current and former FBI agents criticised Patel for turning up at the scene of the shooting and the FBI Field Office because it diverts necessary resources away from what was the manhunt for the shooter at the time in order to secure the area for the FBI Director. They were also angry that he took credit for the investigation when he did bugger all, and it was the actual agents who did all the work.

Title: Re: Shooter identified as a homo
Post by Marla on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:48am

Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:32am:
He wouldn't pass muster.



But no question you would, you government welfare queer.

Title: Re: Shooter identified as a homo
Post by Bobby. on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:51am

Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:32am:
Well the FBI don't deserve any credit - they did SFA .... he was bought in by his father(a retired Police Officer) and a Marshall who is a Youth Minister.

That aside if what is said above about him having a tranny partner that would explain some of the shyte he scribbled on the rifle & ammunition.

And good ultra RWingers aren't homos & in relationships with transvestites.

He wouldn't pass muster.

Let alone what was reported about what he said in his family conversations regarding Kirk & his appearance at the University in question.



A violent, murdering, lefty homo.

It must be the End Times as prophesied in the Bible.
Read the book of Revelation.

Title: Re: Shooter identified as a homo
Post by Marla on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:58am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:51am:
A violent, murdering, lefty homo.

It must be the End Times as prophesied in the Bible.
Read the book of Revelation.



Yes, that's it, Blooby, keep on suppressing yourself,

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Marla on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:03am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 8:54am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 7:56am:
How will the rabid right spin it considering it was one of theirs behind the trigger?


Public records indicate that Robinson's last voter registration date was on July 13, 2021, and his political party is none declared. Don't you hate being proven wrong so often?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-charlie-kirk-shooting-tyler-robinson-rcna230504



Either he was a registered independent which should have shown up on public record or he didn't vote.

Title: Re: Shooter identified as a homo
Post by Gnads on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:05am

Marla wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:48am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:32am:
He wouldn't pass muster.



But no question you would, you government welfare queer.


You should stick to what you know .. phukken nothing.

Title: Re: Shooter identified as a homo
Post by Marla on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:05am

Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:05am:
You should stick to what you know .. phukken nothing.



Sorry? Government welfare queen says what?

Title: Re: Shooter identified as a homo
Post by Gnads on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:07am

Marla wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:05am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:05am:
You should stick to what you know .. phukken nothing.



Sorry? Government welfare queen says what?


Speaking of Queens have you put your wig & makeup on today?

Title: Re: Shooter identified as a homo
Post by Marla on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:08am

Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:07am:

Marla wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:05am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:05am:
You should stick to what you know .. phukken nothing.



Sorry? Government welfare queen says what?


Speaking of Queens have you put your wig & makeup on today?



Say again? Government welfare queen says what?

Title: Re: Shooter identified as a homo
Post by Bobby. on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:11am

Marla wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:08am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:07am:

Marla wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:05am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:05am:
You should stick to what you know .. phukken nothing.



Sorry? Government welfare queen says what?


Speaking of Queens have you put your wig & makeup on today?



Say again? Government welfare queen says what?



Marla,
this is not about you even though you do love guns
and you are a lefty.

Not that .....

Title: Re: Shooter identified as a homo
Post by Marla on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:13am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:11am:
Marla,
this is not about you even though you do love guns
and you are a lefty.

Not that .....




That's right Blooby, I do shoot 9mm's left-handed.



Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:22am

Frank wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:08am:
Stupid looney bollocks, sad. Idiotic.


Thank you for your wonderfully insightful commentary, as always.

You're surrendering quicker and quicker these days.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:40am

Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:26am:
So you pair of 'tards have 100 % proof that this 22 yr old was a member of that group?


No, I should have used more careful language, you're right.  But everything fits.


Quote:
What's more it would be better if Sad Sack could reference who actually wrote that material he posted because as sure as phuk he didn't write it.

Plagiarizing someone elses work - weak as piss.


I can dig up the sources if you really need them, but like my other post on Fuentes today, this is all my own work.

Your projection aside, I learned enough about this little poo stain after Musk's Nazi salute to see exactly what he is. Fuentes, the self-proclaimed Christian white nationalist, was one of the few voices from that loathsome white supremacist wing of conservative politics actually cheering it on, calling it exactly what it was: a straight-up Sieg Heil.

Before that, I didn't know who he was, what he preached, what his grift was, or the way he was enthralling a new generation of fanatics. I almost wish I could go back to that time of blissful ignorance. But that ship has long since sailed.

So yes, I've shared my thoughts on him, especially given the apparent links to Kirk's shooter.

Of course, it's not the radical-leftist story you and your ilk want, so I'm not surprised you're attacking me. Your kind always does. When reality hits you like a hammer, when it triggers the cognitive dissonance you're incapable of processing, you don't reconsider your beliefs, you lash out at the messenger handing you the inconvenient truth on a silver platter.

I've learned from Frank, Grap, Leroy, Lee, Gordon, Scoot, and the rest of your ilk that none of you are interested in sources. You dismiss them the instant they contradict the narrow little narrative you cling to anyway.

You never challenge what you think, you never question your beliefs, you just deflect, distract, launch personal attacks, or ghost threads until enough pages have passed for everyone to forget.

You do it to waste my time, to try to provoke me, so you can play victim if I respond to you with the same tone you all give to me while you behave like the whining, entitled children you are.

I will always show receipts to those engaging in good faith. But there's a growing list of disgruntled conservative supporters, desperate to avoid facing what their advocacy has actually wrought, who lash out at anyone refusing to bow to their delusions. And they do it in some of the most vile, disrespectful ways imaginable on a forum that should be for discussion.

If you want a real discussion, you first have to prove you're capable of one.

Some of you never will. Frank, among others, is a prime example of that.

So I won't be wasting my time with you until you've proven you're not just like the rest of the abusive crybabies who can't cope with reality.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by MattE on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:47am
All these leftists trying to push that this young man was a Republican or blaming his actions on his conservative upbringing are delusional.

Yes, he was raised in a conservative family. So what? From all accounts, before he went to university, everything was fine with him. He was well liked at school, no issues in the family.

The turning point (no pun intended) was when he enrolled at a public university and got mixed up with the radical LEFT crowd. He was even living or dating a tranny.

He also was not registered with either political party and had no voting record in 2024 (the first election he would have been able to vote).

It is possible for a child to be raised in a leftist or right wing family and to eventually have different views. Take a look at Peter and Tim Costello for example.

I reckon if Tyler Robinson did not enrol at Utah Valley University and instead enrolled at Brigham Young University (an LDS church owned university), he would not have shot Charlie Kirk. He wouldn't have been mixed up in the leftist crowd or had a tranny as a partner as that kind of thing isn't allowed at BYU.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:50am
UVU ranks as the third most conservative college in Utah out of like 14...

So is it that the left is so toxic that the mere presence of, being in proximity to it, is enough to radicalise someone in a matter of days?

Really?

Damn the left are POWERFUL!

Oh, but they're also the weaklings... How, how does that work?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Gordon on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:54am

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by MattE on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:56am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:50am:
UVU ranks as the third most conservative college in Utah out of like 14...

So is it that the left is so toxic that the mere presence of, being in proximity to it, is enough to radicalise someone in a matter of days?

Really?

Damn the left are POWERFUL!

Oh, but they're also the weaklings... How, how does that work?


It is a PUBLIC university, which means it has to take people from the right and left, including trannys.

BYU doesn't, being private.

I'm looking forward to the court case where your theory will likely sink.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Marla on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:58am

MattE wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:56am:
BYU doesn't, being private.



Gay students have and currently do attend BYU you moron.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Gnads on Sep 14th, 2025 at 9:02am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:40am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:26am:
So you pair of 'tards have 100 % proof that this 22 yr old was a member of that group?


No, I should have used more careful language, you're right.  But everything fits.


Quote:
What's more it would be better if Sad Sack could reference who actually wrote that material he posted because as sure as phuk he didn't write it.

Plagiarizing someone elses work - weak as piss.


I can dig up the sources if you really need them, but like my other post on Fuentes today, this is all my own work.

Your projection aside, I learned enough about this little poo stain after Musk's Nazi salute to see exactly what he is. Fuentes, the self-proclaimed Christian white nationalist, was one of the few voices from that loathsome white supremacist wing of conservative politics actually cheering it on, calling it exactly what it was: a straight-up Sieg Heil.

Before that, I didn't know who he was, what he preached, what his grift was, or the way he was enthralling a new generation of fanatics. I almost wish I could go back to that time of blissful ignorance. But that ship has long since sailed.

So yes, I've shared my thoughts on him, especially given the apparent links to Kirk's shooter.

Of course, it's not the radical-leftist story you and your ilk want, so I'm not surprised you're attacking me. Your kind always does. When reality hits you like a hammer, when it triggers the cognitive dissonance you're incapable of processing, you don't reconsider your beliefs, you lash out at the messenger handing you the inconvenient truth on a silver platter.

I've learned from Frank, Grap, Leroy, Lee, Gordon, Scoot, and the rest of your ilk that none of you are interested in sources. You dismiss them the instant they contradict the narrow little narrative you cling to anyway.

You never challenge what you think, you never question your beliefs, you just deflect, distract, launch personal attacks, or ghost threads until enough pages have passed for everyone to forget.


You do it to waste my time, to try to provoke me, so you can play victim if I respond to you with the same tone you all give to me while you behave like the whining, entitled children you are.

I will always show receipts to those engaging in good faith. But there's a growing list of disgruntled conservative supporters, desperate to avoid facing what their advocacy has actually wrought, who lash out at anyone refusing to bow to their delusions. And they do it in some of the most vile, disrespectful ways imaginable on a forum that should be for discussion.

If you want a real discussion, you first have to prove you're capable of one.

Some of you never will. Frank, among others, is a prime example of that.

So I won't be wasting my time with you until you've proven you're not just like the rest of the abusive crybabies who can't cope with reality.



Oh please get over yourself you hypocrite. I've seen some of your handy work when a nerve is hit. Go take a shower & wash the tickets off.

You & reality are poles apart.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by MattE on Sep 14th, 2025 at 9:06am

Marla wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:58am:

MattE wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:56am:
BYU doesn't, being private.



Gay students have and currently do attend BYU you moron.


They must uphold the Honour Code.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 14th, 2025 at 9:10am

Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 9:02am:
You & reality are poles apart.


I couldn't agree more.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Marla on Sep 14th, 2025 at 9:13am

MattE wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 9:06am:
They must uphold the Honour Code.



No, you're just a f**king idiot.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 14th, 2025 at 2:27pm
"I've learned from Frank, Grap, Leroy, Lee, Gordon, Scoot, and the rest of your ilk that none of you are interested in sources. You dismiss them the instant they contradict the narrow little narrative you cling to anyway. "

CORRECTION:-  Oh, BTW - J.K. Rowling said if you would not change your views when extra info is added, you are a fundamentalist - not an extremist as I said.  So yesterday you were a fundamentalist, today you simply remain a deluded extremist.

You were called out yesterday over that very issue - over THIS issue of this shooter - when YOU flatly refused to entertain the idea that there were any other sources than those you had chosen already.

Now you try to turn the whole error on your part into some witch hunt of the better and more stable minds.

I told you to wait - and that the media would leak a bit at a time the realities of this young and distorted minded person.... now it seems he caught the tranny bug.... oh, well... bend over and take it like a man...  now he appears to have hit a 'progressive' campus and suddenly become a LostMinder and developed some kind of Messiah Complex feeling that he would happily become a martyr to the great cause of poor oppressed trannies by killing someone and then being executed .. what a clear condemnation of the modern 'education' system.

Listen to the Old Master, grasshopper.... let it come to you.

His 'conservative' family are most likely just ordinary law-abiding citizens... likely never harmed a soul even though dad was a deputy or something and had to uphold the law... just cause, innit?

Will he repent as the needle goes in or the chair sparks up or the firing squad breathes a half breath and holds it?  He'll suddenly wake from his tranny dream and find himself in a nightmare....

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 14th, 2025 at 2:40pm

MattE wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:47am:
The turning point (no pun intended) was when he enrolled at a public university and got mixed up with the radical LEFT crowd.


How many years did he attend this public university?


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 14th, 2025 at 3:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 2:40pm:

MattE wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:47am:
The turning point (no pun intended) was when he enrolled at a public university and got mixed up with the radical LEFT crowd.


How many years did he attend this public university?


To many - clearly it go into his mental fabric and destroyed his mind..

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 14th, 2025 at 4:49pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 3:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 2:40pm:

MattE wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:47am:
The turning point (no pun intended) was when he enrolled at a public university and got mixed up with the radical LEFT crowd.


How many years did he attend this public university?


To many - clearly it go into his mental fabric and destroyed his mind..


I assume you meant "too" many, and you'd be wrong.

The answer to my question is zero.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Leroy on Sep 14th, 2025 at 5:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 4:49pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 3:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 2:40pm:

MattE wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:47am:
The turning point (no pun intended) was when he enrolled at a public university and got mixed up with the radical LEFT crowd.


How many years did he attend this public university?


To many - clearly it go into his mental fabric and destroyed his mind..


I assume you meant "too" many, and you'd be wrong.

The answer to my question is zero.


No you got that wrong, Robinson attended Utah State University for .5 years. If you want to be exact, you could also round that out to one year if your not so pedantic.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 14th, 2025 at 5:52pm

Leroy wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 5:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 4:49pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 3:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 2:40pm:

MattE wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:47am:
The turning point (no pun intended) was when he enrolled at a public university and got mixed up with the radical LEFT crowd.


How many years did he attend this public university?


To many - clearly it go into his mental fabric and destroyed his mind..


I assume you meant "too" many, and you'd be wrong.

The answer to my question is zero.


No you got that wrong, ...


Nope.

I'm 100% correct.

Zero years.

He only attended for 14 weeks.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:10pm
Well - now we know he's a poof and took up with a tranny - so he had this strange and distorted idea that Charlie Kirk, by asking questions that this guy's 'pals' couldn't answer - was oppressing them in the Great Galactic Video War to Save Transmania From Oppression And Genocide .. so he killed Captain Kirk...

Clearly these kinds of mis-prints need a long and careful look - and some clear treatment that will actually help them.

Like that meme - 'Threaten to shoot people - don't get riled up if you're fired.'
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Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Setanta on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 5:52pm:

Leroy wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 5:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 4:49pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 3:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 2:40pm:

MattE wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 8:47am:
The turning point (no pun intended) was when he enrolled at a public university and got mixed up with the radical LEFT crowd.


How many years did he attend this public university?


To many - clearly it go into his mental fabric and destroyed his mind..


I assume you meant "too" many, and you'd be wrong.

The answer to my question is zero.


No you got that wrong, ...


Nope.

I'm 100% correct.
Zero years.

He only attended for 14 weeks.


So 0.2683094 years.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:32pm
;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D   .. touche` ....

Too long - enough time to be infected with Transmania - though he was probably looking for that ...

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 14th, 2025 at 10:10pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 7:10pm:
Well - now we know he's a poof and took up with a tranny - so he had this strange and distorted idea that Charlie Kirk, by asking questions that this guy's 'pals' couldn't answer - was oppressing them in the Great Galactic Video War to Save Transmania From Oppression And Genocide .. so he killed Captain Kirk...


Democrats claim Tyler wasn't a poof

The single fired bullet casing read, "Notices bulges OWO what's this?"

Is notices bulges a reference to his tranny boyfriend having a cock? The OWO is furry anime reference his tranny boyfriend was into that stuff.

If you're a guy dating someone with a cock you're a poofter.

A fetish for dressing like a woman doesn't make you a woman it indicates autogynephilia
https://www.google.com/search?q=autogynephilia+&sca_esv=8555f25f11312303&ei=0a_GaMiMMebO2roPjJCxyAk&ved=0ahUKEwiIuazCm9iPAxVmp1YBHQxIDJkQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=autogynephilia+&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiD2F1dG9neW5lcGhpbGlhIDIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBTIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABEj9J1CODliWIXAAeAKQAQCYAf0IoAGeJaoBDTAuMS40LTEuMS4zLjG4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgKgAvYBwgIEEAAYR5gDAIgGAZAGCJIHBTEuMC4xoAexJLIHAzItMbgH0AHCBwM0LTLIBy4&sclient=gws-wiz-serp




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Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 14th, 2025 at 10:32pm

Quote:
Lance Twiggs Was the Roommate,’Boyfriend’ of Tyler Robinson, Family Member Says

Lance Twiggs was named as the roommate of accused Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson by The New York Post and Daily Mail.

For starters, the family member – who has not spoken to other members of the news media –alleged that Twiggs harbored animosity toward conservatives and Christians, confirmed that Twiggs was transgender/transitioning, and said that Robinson was allegedly Twiggs’ boyfriend.

“They did live together,” the family member of Lance Twiggs told Wisconsin Right Now in the exclusive phone interview on Sept. 13, referring to Twiggs and Robinson.

“He (Lance Twiggs) is very angry with anyone who is supportive of conservative ideals and Christian values,” alleged the family member.

“As far as I know, he was not going by another name. I just know he was in the process of transitioning. I know he was trying to take different medications,” alleged the relative of Lance, whom the family member had avoided for about four years out of concern over Twiggs’ alleged temperament.

The relative alleged that Lance Twiggs is “not mentally well at all.” Asked whether Lance was transgender and transitioning, the family member alleged, “This is true. I can’t be sure of when it started. I have suspicions it would have been about four years.”

The family member alleged to WRN that Robinson was Lance Twiggs’ boyfriend. “I knew he had a boyfriend. I never met him. None of us had.” The relative was not sure how long they were together.

Asked how the relative knew Robinson was allegedly Lance Twiggs’ boyfriend, the relative responded: “Lance disclosed that. Not to me directly. He wanted to have lunch with other family members to introduce his boyfriend.”

The relative said the relative had avoided having anything to do with Lance Twiggs for about four years.

“I know the reason I had nothing to do with him is he (Lance Twiggs) is full of evil and hatred,” the family member alleged about Lance Twiggs. “While this is extremely shocking, I was afraid he might hurt someone,” the family member alleged, saying this belief was based on “things he would say to family members.”

“The individual, who is a male transitioning to a female, is fully cooperating with the FBI,” continued Singman. “Sources tell me the FBI had texts and other communications between Robinson and the individual that helped FBI authorities solidify that Robinson was indeed the shooter.”

Daily Mail also reported Twiggs’ name and wrote that Twiggs “showed police texts from Robinson about stashing a gun linked to Wednesday’s shooting of” Kirk, citing a law enforcement affidavit.

Details about Robinson’s background are still emerging. Although he is from a Republican family, Utah’s Gov. Spencer Cox told the Wall Street Journal on September 13 that the accused gunman was “deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology.”

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/lance-twiggs-was-the-roommate-of-tyler-robinson-reports-say/?fsp_sid=6342&fbclid=IwZnRzaAMyyxZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHg61EeFgL5Cdgb2kU0qzSQp6QjT_aEOneh1B7d4p59TIH8ePVTrkgvrwDX0U_aem_QZgFMFzZE01KsL9xJ3IWdQ&amp=1


Utah also has death penalty for those involved with murder even if they didn't do it the Tranny is helping possibly to avoid firing squad


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Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 14th, 2025 at 11:15pm
I wonder if this will be confirmed or walked back like so many of the other claims around the alleged shooter.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 14th, 2025 at 11:16pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 11:15pm:
I wonder if this will be confirmed or walked back like so many of the other claims around the alleged shooter.


Oh? What's been 'walked back' so far.... info is still being trickled down in a revised state ...

Give us a list of the things 'walked back'......


He's a poof.

He lived with a tranny.

The tranny had extreme views and hated anyone who disagreed.

The tranny was mentally unstable.

The shooter was therefore probably highly unstable as well.

His family are Republican which is hardly 'extreme right wing' ... he had no real affiliations but was accessed by all the tommy rot in a 'house of learning' these days....

Now then - what's been 'walked back'?  It just keeps on coming.....
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Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 14th, 2025 at 11:17pm
glitch

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 14th, 2025 at 11:19pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 11:15pm:
I wonder if this will be confirmed or walked back like so many of the other claims around the alleged shooter.


Nothing has been walked back ya dim wit.

It's confirmed he was a leftist his father called the police on him.

Discord the leftist cesspit has messages from him



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Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 15th, 2025 at 6:43am

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 14th, 2025 at 11:19pm:
Nothing has been walked back ya dim wit.


Pro-trans and antifascist messages supposedly "on his bullets," the two innocent people who were wrongfully arrested, Patel spinning up false claims from a restaurant, there's already a laundry list of assertions that have had to be retracted or walked back since this began.


Quote:
It's confirmed he was a leftist his father called the police on him.


Confirmed by law enforcement, or just whispered by "sources" to conservative media and amplified by politicians who spent 36 hours praying the shooter wouldn't turn out to be one of their own, a conservative white christian?


Quote:
Discord the leftist cesspit has messages from him


Except what we actually have is far-right meme culture scrawled on the bullets. A meme culture directly tied to the Groyper movement, the same mob who had a self declared war against Kirk, despised Kirk, making it their mission to sabotage any TPUSA event he spoke at on campus because Kirk wasn't radical enough, sold out to the mainstream and was a fake Christian.

People who knew him back in 2018 say he was already a chronically online Reddit kid, long before COVID intensified the isolationism.

That's what's been confirmed through actual evidence and primary sources. We're still waiting on anything of substance to back your claims.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Labor majority government on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.

Lot of selective hearing of 'evidence' going on here... people picking and choosing their sources while at the same time the sensible people near universally vote that they have no trust in the media any more... and then some fantasise that only 'the other side' cherry pick their sources etc....

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


So says the story the conservative whisper network would like you to swallow.

The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.

Meanwhile, I've read that so-called "trans" angle rests on a single instance of a gender-swap filter used on a livestream or TikTok, and a great deal of the reporting pushing that narrative comes from outlets with a clear ideological stake in contradicting everything we already know about his upbringing and online behaviour.

There is so much misinformation out there, deliberate or otherwise, that we'll have to wait and see once something confirmed is released.

Time will tell.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 15th, 2025 at 12:24pm
Ah - so you perceive the existence of a conservative whisper network - though its content is publicly seen and backed up by verbal evidence... but you cannot or will not see the existence of a progressive whisper network which has nothing to back it up.

so his family say he was an Outsider even there; the evidence is that he too up with a tranny; he was exposed  at uni and online to the 'progressive' tranny agenda/ideology in all its fantasies; and yet you are prepared to believe in some mystical Groyper connection regardless of all other evidence.

Unless you re-do your mental wiring, I am afraid you will fail Grappler University's Reality Course.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 15th, 2025 at 1:09pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 12:24pm:
Ah - so you perceive the existence of a conservative whisper network - though its content is publicly seen and backed up by verbal evidence... but you cannot or will not see the existence of a progressive whisper network which has nothing to back it up.

so his family say he was an Outsider even there; the evidence is that he too up with a tranny; he was exposed  at uni and online to the 'progressive' tranny agenda/ideology in all its fantasies; and yet you are prepared to believe in some mystical Groyper connection regardless of all other evidence.

Unless you re-do your mental wiring, I am afraid you will fail Grappler University's Reality Course.


His Grandmother said they're all MAGA and was offended by the notion that any of them, even her grandson, might be left-wingers.

I'm saying that there are counterarguments on both sides. The initial reporting about the trans side of things came out of conservative networks, and we're still waiting for confirmation from law enforcement.

But in a strange way, and you can look this up yourself, it all still fits with him being a groyper and a fringe right-winger.

There's a hypocrisy baked into the groyper movement that's worth dragging into the daylight. These are the loudest voices pretending to defend "traditional masculinity" and "Christian family values", yet if you scratch the surface of their online subculture, what you find is a bunch of alienated young men who are so hostile to, and terrified of, women that they substitute them with "femboys", effeminate young men who look feminine enough to tick the box, but without triggering the deep resentment and fear they harbour toward actual women.

It's not some fringe meme either. The femboy obsession runs through the groyper world because inceldom and misogyny are the glue that holds it together. They can't reconcile their ideology with their desires, so it gets wrapped in layers of irony and denial. They'll tell you it's just "a joke", just "posting", but we all know irony in these circles is a mask for the truth.

How does this tie back to the alleged Kirk shooter? Look at the evidence we actually have, not the desperate spin from conservative media. He wasn't radicalised into left-wing ideology, he was a white Christian conservative with deep ties to that same online groyper culture. The bullet messages, the memes, the targets, they all line up with that ecosystem. And within that ecosystem, the femboy fixation isn't an outlier, it's a symptom of the same rot. A movement that sells itself as the vanguard of masculinity and faith, yet produces young men so broken by their own misogyny and isolation that their only form of intimacy is through ironic fetishisation of feminised boys.

It's not a coincidence. It's the logical endpoint of an ideology that despises women, despises sex, and despises itself.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by thegreatdivide on Sep 15th, 2025 at 1:14pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 12:24pm:
Unless you re-do your mental wiring, I am afraid you will fail Grappler University's Reality Course.


Too funny: Grappler on "reality".

He thinks individual rights are 'god given'  or 'natural' (or 'inherent') - completely oblivious to nature's 'law of the jungle', which among men still manifests as 'might is right'.....

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 15th, 2025 at 6:33pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 1:14pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 12:24pm:
Unless you re-do your mental wiring, I am afraid you will fail Grappler University's Reality Course.


Too funny: Grappler on "reality".

He thinks individual rights are 'god given'  or 'natural' (or 'inherent') - completely oblivious to nature's 'law of the jungle', which among men still manifests as 'might is right'.....



Indeed - all true ... the 'law of the jungle' is supposed to be over-ridden by sense and reason ... though you wouldn't know it.  Your chosen way of running a civilisation is just another example of law of the jungle no matter what dress it wears.. what you fail to see is that a few humans (not just men) persist with their law of the jungle... an increasing number do not...

Anyway - the kid is a poof and a tranny luvvah and a lunatic to boot ...

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 15th, 2025 at 8:59pm
Just another one of smothra's poor little vulnerables with guns who murder people they can't beat in discussion...

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 16th, 2025 at 12:06am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


So says the story the conservative whisper network would like you to swallow.

The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.

Meanwhile, I've read that so-called "trans" angle rests on a single instance of a gender-swap filter used on a livestream or TikTok, and a great deal of the reporting pushing that narrative comes from outlets with a clear ideological stake in contradicting everything we already know about his upbringing and online behaviour.

There is so much misinformation out there, deliberate or otherwise, that we'll have to wait and see once something confirmed is released.

Time will tell.


The only reason there is misinformation out there is dickheads like you keep spreading it.

What did the FBI director post here?
https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/1967231252777587153

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 16th, 2025 at 6:31am

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 12:06am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


So says the story the conservative whisper network would like you to swallow.

The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.

Meanwhile, I've read that so-called "trans" angle rests on a single instance of a gender-swap filter used on a livestream or TikTok, and a great deal of the reporting pushing that narrative comes from outlets with a clear ideological stake in contradicting everything we already know about his upbringing and online behaviour.

There is so much misinformation out there, deliberate or otherwise, that we'll have to wait and see once something confirmed is released.

Time will tell.


The only reason there is misinformation out there is dickheads like you keep spreading it.

What did the FBI director post here?
https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/1967231252777587153


I've only posted information that has been verified by law enforcement or drawn from primary sources, direct statements from the shooter's family members or his roommate.

You, on the other hand, are peddling Fox News headlines citing anonymous sources, amplified by Patel on Twitter, which, purely by coincidence, I'm sure, just so happen to align perfectly with the narrative Trump was spewing before a suspect was even identified, let alone arrested.

Attack me or my family all you like. It doesn't change the fact that, as usual, you're not standing on the side of truth.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Gnads on Sep 16th, 2025 at 1:34pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 6:31am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 12:06am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


So says the story the conservative whisper network would like you to swallow.

The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.

Meanwhile, I've read that so-called "trans" angle rests on a single instance of a gender-swap filter used on a livestream or TikTok, and a great deal of the reporting pushing that narrative comes from outlets with a clear ideological stake in contradicting everything we already know about his upbringing and online behaviour.

There is so much misinformation out there, deliberate or otherwise, that we'll have to wait and see once something confirmed is released.

Time will tell.


The only reason there is misinformation out there is dickheads like you keep spreading it.

What did the FBI director post here?
https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/1967231252777587153


I've only posted information that has been verified by law enforcement or drawn from primary sources, direct statements from the shooter's family members or his roommate.

You, on the other hand, are peddling Fox News headlines citing anonymous sources, amplified by Patel on Twitter, which, purely by coincidence, I'm sure, just so happen to align perfectly with the narrative Trump was spewing before a suspect was even identified, let alone arrested.

Attack me or my family all you like. It doesn't change the fact that, as usual, you're not standing on the side of truth.


Now where in that thread did he do that?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 16th, 2025 at 2:34pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 1:34pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 6:31am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 12:06am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


So says the story the conservative whisper network would like you to swallow.

The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.

Meanwhile, I've read that so-called "trans" angle rests on a single instance of a gender-swap filter used on a livestream or TikTok, and a great deal of the reporting pushing that narrative comes from outlets with a clear ideological stake in contradicting everything we already know about his upbringing and online behaviour.

There is so much misinformation out there, deliberate or otherwise, that we'll have to wait and see once something confirmed is released.

Time will tell.


The only reason there is misinformation out there is dickheads like you keep spreading it.

What did the FBI director post here?
https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/1967231252777587153


I've only posted information that has been verified by law enforcement or drawn from primary sources, direct statements from the shooter's family members or his roommate.

You, on the other hand, are peddling Fox News headlines citing anonymous sources, amplified by Patel on Twitter, which, purely by coincidence, I'm sure, just so happen to align perfectly with the narrative Trump was spewing before a suspect was even identified, let alone arrested.

Attack me or my family all you like. It doesn't change the fact that, as usual, you're not standing on the side of truth.


Now where in that thread did he do that?


Right here: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1757801346/33#33

A bannable offence in this forum, by the way.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Bobby. on Sep 16th, 2025 at 4:20pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.

Lot of selective hearing of 'evidence' going on here... people picking and choosing their sources while at the same time the sensible people near universally vote that they have no trust in the media any more... and then some fantasise that only 'the other side' cherry pick their sources etc....




Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 16th, 2025 at 5:01pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 4:20pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.

Lot of selective hearing of 'evidence' going on here... people picking and choosing their sources while at the same time the sensible people near universally vote that they have no trust in the media any more... and then some fantasise that only 'the other side' cherry pick their sources etc....





Welcome to the extreme far right. You're not far from it yourself which is the truly frightening part, with all your sexualised Trump memes and fevered fantasies.

Funny, isn't it. Nick Fuentes managed to Alex Jones himself by flashing his phone on stream with open tabs to trans porn, then later went on a date with a catboi. These are the self-proclaimed moral crusaders.

They are such terminal incels that the only partners they can find are feminised versions of themselves, because they're so repulsive to actual women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggboca2rkrM

This is what being a Groyper looks like these days...

It's the same dynamic you find at the opposite end of the spectrum, where if you go far enough into the fringe left you eventually stumble across gun cultists.

Which is precisely why it still fits that the shooter was right wing, regardless of whether his roommate was trans or not, or even if there had been some romantic link, both of which look like yet another far right invention to deflect from the uncomfortable truth, that this was a white conservative, gun-obsessed Christian.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Gnads on Sep 16th, 2025 at 6:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 2:34pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 1:34pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 6:31am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 12:06am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


So says the story the conservative whisper network would like you to swallow.

The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.

Meanwhile, I've read that so-called "trans" angle rests on a single instance of a gender-swap filter used on a livestream or TikTok, and a great deal of the reporting pushing that narrative comes from outlets with a clear ideological stake in contradicting everything we already know about his upbringing and online behaviour.

There is so much misinformation out there, deliberate or otherwise, that we'll have to wait and see once something confirmed is released.

Time will tell.


The only reason there is misinformation out there is dickheads like you keep spreading it.

What did the FBI director post here?
https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/1967231252777587153


I've only posted information that has been verified by law enforcement or drawn from primary sources, direct statements from the shooter's family members or his roommate.

You, on the other hand, are peddling Fox News headlines citing anonymous sources, amplified by Patel on Twitter, which, purely by coincidence, I'm sure, just so happen to align perfectly with the narrative Trump was spewing before a suspect was even identified, let alone arrested.

Attack me or my family all you like. It doesn't change the fact that, as usual, you're not standing on the side of truth.


Now where in that thread did he do that?


Right here: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1757801346/33#33

A bannable offence in this forum, by the way.


You're liar - no where in that post you linked was there an actual attack of KANGAS FAMILY.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 16th, 2025 at 7:40pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 6:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 2:34pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 1:34pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 6:31am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 12:06am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


So says the story the conservative whisper network would like you to swallow.

The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.

Meanwhile, I've read that so-called "trans" angle rests on a single instance of a gender-swap filter used on a livestream or TikTok, and a great deal of the reporting pushing that narrative comes from outlets with a clear ideological stake in contradicting everything we already know about his upbringing and online behaviour.

There is so much misinformation out there, deliberate or otherwise, that we'll have to wait and see once something confirmed is released.

Time will tell.


The only reason there is misinformation out there is dickheads like you keep spreading it.

What did the FBI director post here?
https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/1967231252777587153


I've only posted information that has been verified by law enforcement or drawn from primary sources, direct statements from the shooter's family members or his roommate.

You, on the other hand, are peddling Fox News headlines citing anonymous sources, amplified by Patel on Twitter, which, purely by coincidence, I'm sure, just so happen to align perfectly with the narrative Trump was spewing before a suspect was even identified, let alone arrested.

Attack me or my family all you like. It doesn't change the fact that, as usual, you're not standing on the side of truth.


Now where in that thread did he do that?


Right here: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1757801346/33#33

A bannable offence in this forum, by the way.


You're liar - no where in that post you linked was there an actual attack of KANGAS FAMILY.


My son isn’t transgender, and I’ve never once claimed otherwise. That accusation is a barefaced fabrication plucked straight out of thin air.

Even if he were, it wouldn’t be some kind of negative mark. But given Baron’s well-documented disdain for trans people, the intent here was obviously to wield it as a “gotcha” insult, which tells you far more about his own prejudices than it does about me or my family.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Gnads on Sep 16th, 2025 at 8:04pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 7:40pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 6:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 2:34pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 1:34pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 6:31am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 12:06am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


So says the story the conservative whisper network would like you to swallow.

The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.

Meanwhile, I've read that so-called "trans" angle rests on a single instance of a gender-swap filter used on a livestream or TikTok, and a great deal of the reporting pushing that narrative comes from outlets with a clear ideological stake in contradicting everything we already know about his upbringing and online behaviour.

There is so much misinformation out there, deliberate or otherwise, that we'll have to wait and see once something confirmed is released.

Time will tell.


The only reason there is misinformation out there is dickheads like you keep spreading it.

What did the FBI director post here?
https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/1967231252777587153


I've only posted information that has been verified by law enforcement or drawn from primary sources, direct statements from the shooter's family members or his roommate.

You, on the other hand, are peddling Fox News headlines citing anonymous sources, amplified by Patel on Twitter, which, purely by coincidence, I'm sure, just so happen to align perfectly with the narrative Trump was spewing before a suspect was even identified, let alone arrested.

Attack me or my family all you like. It doesn't change the fact that, as usual, you're not standing on the side of truth.


Now where in that thread did he do that?


Right here: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1757801346/33#33

A bannable offence in this forum, by the way.


You're liar - no where in that post you linked was there an actual attack of KANGAS FAMILY.


My son isn’t transgender, and I’ve never once claimed otherwise. That accusation is a barefaced fabrication plucked straight out of thin air.

Even if he were, it wouldn’t be some kind of negative mark. But given Baron’s well-documented disdain for trans people, the intent here was obviously to wield it as a “gotcha” insult, which tells you far more about his own prejudices than it does about me or my family.


I don't give a toss about your family & I've never mentioned them.

I don't have a problem with them.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Bobby. on Sep 16th, 2025 at 8:10pm


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 16th, 2025 at 8:16pm

Charlie Kirk, 2023:

"I know what you're thinking, we've got to get Joe Biden out of the way so we can run against Kammy. Oh my goodness, is she beatable. ... Biden should be put in prison and/or given the death penalty".

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:36pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 8:04pm:
I don't give a toss about your family & I've never mentioned them.

I don't have a problem with them.


Ok, but you asked where Baron attacked them and you were provided a link.

Why the goalpost change?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:50pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:36pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 8:04pm:
I don't give a toss about your family & I've never mentioned them.

I don't have a problem with them.


Ok, but you asked where Baron attacked them and you were provided a link.

Why the goalpost change?


You have a family?  So does Joe biden - and an interesting lot they are...Karamela came across as drunk of stoned and false as well...

Charles Kirk has a family - they are grieving... but the poof shooter's father is going to give them the reward money coming to him for dobbing the wee tranny assassin in... just think - soon he will be able to proudly and truthfully say there are no off-beats in his family!!

Least we don't got trannies live next door to us.. but I'm up in arms over some dork throwing stones on the roof of the gay guy at the end of the street...

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:55pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:50pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:36pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 8:04pm:
I don't give a toss about your family & I've never mentioned them.

I don't have a problem with them.


Ok, but you asked where Baron attacked them and you were provided a link.

Why the goalpost change?


You have a family?  So does Joe biden - and an interesting oot they are...Karamela came across as drunk of stoned and false as well...

Charles Kirk has a family - they are grieving... but the poof shooter's father is going to give them the reward money coming to him for dobbing the wee tranny assassin in... just think - soon he will be able to proudly and truthfully say there are no off-beats in his family!!

Least we don't got trannies live next door to us.. but I'm up in arms over some dork throwing stones on the roof of the gay guy at the end of the street...


We know you're a bigot, you don't need to be so obvious about it, we get it.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:59pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:55pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:50pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:36pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 8:04pm:
I don't give a toss about your family & I've never mentioned them.

I don't have a problem with them.


Ok, but you asked where Baron attacked them and you were provided a link.

Why the goalpost change?


You have a family?  So does Joe biden - and an interesting oot they are...Karamela came across as drunk of stoned and false as well...

Charles Kirk has a family - they are grieving... but the poof shooter's father is going to give them the reward money coming to him for dobbing the wee tranny assassin in... just think - soon he will be able to proudly and truthfully say there are no off-beats in his family!!

Least we don't got trannies live next door to us.. but I'm up in arms over some dork throwing stones on the roof of the gay guy at the end of the street...



We know you're a bigot, you don't need to be so obvious about it, we get it.


Bigot doesn't apply to someone what don't got trannies live next door!  We's livin' in a TrannyFrei Zone, is all!

Do you have some skin in that game, sunshine?  That your problem?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 17th, 2025 at 6:03am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:59pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:55pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:50pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:36pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 8:04pm:
I don't give a toss about your family & I've never mentioned them.

I don't have a problem with them.


Ok, but you asked where Baron attacked them and you were provided a link.

Why the goalpost change?


You have a family?  So does Joe biden - and an interesting oot they are...Karamela came across as drunk of stoned and false as well...

Charles Kirk has a family - they are grieving... but the poof shooter's father is going to give them the reward money coming to him for dobbing the wee tranny assassin in... just think - soon he will be able to proudly and truthfully say there are no off-beats in his family!!

Least we don't got trannies live next door to us.. but I'm up in arms over some dork throwing stones on the roof of the gay guy at the end of the street...



We know you're a bigot, you don't need to be so obvious about it, we get it.


Bigot doesn't apply to someone what don't got trannies live next door!  We's livin' in a TrannyFrei Zone, is all!

Do you have some skin in that game, sunshine?  That your problem?


No, the real issue isn’t disagreement, it’s your reliance on slurs. You cycle through them like clockwork, Indigenous people, women, immigrants, gay and lesbian communities, and now trans people. The common denominator is obvious, if someone isn’t a straight white male, they’re in your firing line.

That tells me everything about your inability to argue on substance. When the scaffolding of your worldview is fear and resentment, you can’t help but fall back on abuse rather than reason. And when that fails, you reach for the well-worn costume of the “victim,” as though being challenged is some kind of persecution.

But let’s be blunt, it’s becoming harder for you to conceal what this really is, an outdated worldview rotting from the inside. You can only dress it up for so long before it sounds like what it is, the incoherent ranting of a bitter man pining for a past that’s gone and not coming back. And when all else fails, you lash out personally, as if insults could substitute for logic.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Bobby. on Sep 17th, 2025 at 6:25am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:59pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:55pm:
We know you're a bigot, you don't need to be so obvious about it, we get it.


Bigot doesn't apply to someone what don't got trannies live next door!  We's livin' in a TrannyFrei Zone, is all!

Do you have some skin in that game, sunshine?  That your problem?



Hi Grapps - keep up the good work.



Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 17th, 2025 at 6:50am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 6:25am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:59pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 9:55pm:
We know you're a bigot, you don't need to be so obvious about it, we get it.


Bigot doesn't apply to someone what don't got trannies live next door!  We's livin' in a TrannyFrei Zone, is all!

Do you have some skin in that game, sunshine?  That your problem?



Hi Grapps - keep up the good work.




Weak men create hard times.

Thanks Boomers.

But Bobby, the only "evidence" that the roommate was trans or transitioning is a TikTok where an anime filter misgendered him. That's it. That still image doing the rounds of the roommate was literally taken from this video.

He even said so himself in the caption, pointing out that the filter had no clue what it was looking at.

And yet, somehow, that's all Brooke Singman needed to churn out a Fox News article claiming not only that he was trans, but that he and the shooter were romantically involved.

If you actually read the piece, she even quotes a family member of Lance, the supposed "trans roommate", who flatly admitted she didn't know his politics or whether he was transitioning at all.

But the headline still screamed that the shooter "lived with his transgender partner".

That one flimsy article was enough for Patel to grab it, repost on X, and suddenly start declaring Lance was transgender as if it were a settled fact.

And you seriously don't see a problem with how paper-thin and manipulative that is?

You can see the tiktok account, the video and the caption all for yourself:

https://www.tiktok.com/@c00kies_n_cream

And here is the exact video in question:

https://www.tiktok.com/@c00kies_n_cream/video/7180861045320240426

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED3OQsCFcf4

His caption:


Quote:
"Filter has no clue what it's looking at #manga #bored #aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"




You can see for yourself the photo of Lance that's been plastered everywhere was lifted directly from that TikTok.

And that alone is enough for you to lean right into your bigotry and run with it?

It's staggering how simple you all are. I know you fall over yourselves to swallow anything that feeds your hate model, no matter how flimsy, yet suddenly scepticism is your default setting the second you're faced with genuine, verifiable evidence that doesn't suit your narrative.

Why can't you apply even a fraction of that supposed "critical thinking" consistently?

Not a single red flag or alarm bell goes off with all of this?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Bobby. on Sep 17th, 2025 at 7:02am
Come on Kanga - they are everywhere now -
it's the End Times - in case you didn't already know?




Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 17th, 2025 at 7:10am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 7:02am:
Come on Kanga - they are everywhere now -
it's the End Times - in case you didn't already know?





You're avoiding the question.

There isn't even the faintest flicker of doubt raised here, no red flag whatsoever, as you all leap to attribute the shooter to having lived with and been romantically involved with a transgender person, all on the back of the flimsiest "evidence" imaginable?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Bobby. on Sep 17th, 2025 at 7:13am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 7:10am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 7:02am:
Come on Kanga - they are everywhere now -
it's the End Times - in case you didn't already know?





You're avoiding the question.

There isn't even the faintest flicker of doubt raised here, no red flag whatsoever, as you all leap to attribute the shooter to having lived with and been romantically involved with a transgender person, all on the back of the flimsiest "evidence" imaginable?



Tyler Robinson is a homo.       ::)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUeIXkDt3KE

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Frank on Sep 17th, 2025 at 7:18am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 8:16pm:
Charlie Kirk, 2023:

"I know what you're thinking, we've got to get Joe Biden out of the way so we can run against Kammy. Oh my goodness, is she beatable. ... Biden should be put in prison and/or given the death penalty".

Link?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 17th, 2025 at 7:28am

Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 7:18am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2025 at 8:16pm:
Charlie Kirk, 2023:

"I know what you're thinking, we've got to get Joe Biden out of the way so we can run against Kammy. Oh my goodness, is she beatable. ... Biden should be put in prison and/or given the death penalty".

Link?


Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNRXG55cWXE

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by SerialBrain9 on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:02am
i think he was talking about our leftist forum members - they need mental help
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Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Captain Nemo on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:35am
Made it easy for the prosecution ... I can't see any jury not finding him guilty.


The court documents say that the roommate found a note under Mr Robinson's keyboard that said: "I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it."

Authorities claim that the following text exchange then occurred between the pair, with the roommate later passing the messages onto the police investigation of Mr Kirk's death.

Robinson: I am still ok my love, but am stuck in orem for a little while longer yet. Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle still. To be honest I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I am sorry to involve you.

Roommate: you weren't the one who did it right?Huh

Robinson: I am, I'm sorry

Roommate: I thought they caught the person?

Robinson: no, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down. Its quiet, almost enough to get out, but theres one vehicle lingering.

Roommate: Why?

Robinson: Why did I do it?

Roommate: Yeah

Robinson: I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence. Going to attempt to retrieve it again, hopefully they have moved on. I haven't seen anything about them finding it.

Roommate: How long have you been planning this?

Robinson: a bit over a week I believe. I can get close to it but there is a squad car parked right by it. I think they already swept that spot, but I don't wanna chance it

Robinson: I'm wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle. … I'm worried what my old man would do if I didn't bring back grandpas rifle … idek if it had a serial number, but it wouldn't trace to me. I worry about prints I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits. didn't have the ability or time to bring it with. … I might have to abandon it and hope they don't find prints. how the bugger will I explain losing it to my old man.

Only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel.

Remember how I was engraving bullets? The f***in messages are mostly a big meme, if I see "notices bulge uwu" on fox new I might have a stroke

Alright im gonna have to leave it, that really f***ing sucks.

Judging from today I'd say grandpas gun does just fine idk. I think that was a $2k scope ;-;

Robinson: delete this exchange

Robinson: my dad wants photos of the rifle … he says grandpa wants to know who has what, the feds released a photo of the rifle, and it is very unique. Hes calling me rn, not answering.

Robinson: since trump got into office [my dad] has been pretty diehard maga.

Robinson: Im gonna turn myself in willingly, one of my neighbors here is a deputy for the sheriff.

Robinson: you are all I worry about love

Roommate: I'm much more worried about you

Robinson: don't talk to the media please. don't take any interviews or make any comments. … if any police ask you questions ask for a lawyer and stay silent

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:44am

Captain Nemo wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:35am:
Made it easy for the prosecution ... I can't see any jury not finding him guilty.


Thanks to Kash Patel's complete and utter incompetence, the alleged shooter might have a "third-party perpetrator" defense at trial.

From 13 mins 30 secs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ErRXgYaac

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:44am

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:02am:
i think he was talking about our leftist forum members - they need mental help
👇


You lot cheer for the death of people all the time.  You're only having a tantrum about this one because he's one of yours, so save us your selective outrage...

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:50am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:44am:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:02am:
i think he was talking about our leftist forum members - they need mental help
👇


You lot cheer for the death of people all the time.  You're only having a tantrum about this one because he's one of yours, so save us your selective outrage...


You might not have been here back then, but when that lunatic - a white, male Christian born in Australia - killed 51 people in the Christchurch mosque shootings there were right-wing forum members here who cheered it on and some who said he should have killed more.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Dnarever on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:55am

Captain Nemo wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:35am:
Made it easy for the prosecution ... I can't see any jury not finding him guilty.


Robinson: I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out.


True we all know that but not an excuse at all.

This is how to turn a meaningless extremist troll into a martyr to the right.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 17th, 2025 at 11:25am

Captain Nemo wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:35am:
Made it easy for the prosecution ... I can't see any jury not finding him guilty.


I hope he gets his day in court and the legal system does its thing and he's not another Epstein.

He needs to be held accountable.

Seems like the right will get their civil war after all.

They didn't bother to wait for the facts before the death of Demartravion "Trey" Reed, a 21-year-old Black student at Delta State University in Cleveland, Mississippi, whose family insist, despite police declaring no foul play, that he was "beaten, arms and legs broken," pointing to a deliberate, violent attack rather than an accident or suicide.

Meanwhile, MAGA supporters are posting countless videos online, begging Trump to declare civil war, calling for blood from the left, all while framing it neatly around Thanksgiving.

Good luck, America, they'll need it.

Innocent people, especially from LGBTQ communities, are about to be targeted by the same faction that now clutches its pearls over anyone not grieving sufficiently or celebrating Kirk's death.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sophia on Sep 17th, 2025 at 9:35pm
I’m going to put this in here… remember the photos of gunman running from the roof?
And then they gave photos of “the shooter”.
Like, how many shooters were there again?
Look at the photo below… that first photo we are shown as the shooter on the run looks like a completely different person.


A3823561-9DD2-47D0-8B21-C61C017684F0.jpeg (104 KB | 3 )

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:13pm

Sophia wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 9:35pm:
I’m going to put this in here… remember the photos of gunman running from the roof?
And then they gave photos of “the shooter”.
Like, how many shooters were there again?
Look at the photo below… that first photo we are shown as the shooter on the run looks like a completely different person.


The pic on top right has been AI enhanced this has been proven against original.
Haven't seen bottom right before.

Tylers parents recognised him from pics confronted him and turned him in.

Tyler admitted to killing Charlie in social media posts to his tranny lover.

One shooter one shot fired.

Distance for shot is claimed 143 yards he is shooting downhill so that has to be factored in which means ballistic distance will be closer.
If shooting uphill this has to be factored in which means ballistic distance is further to account for uphill trajectory.

30-06 energy at 100 yards around 2700 ft/lbs
.223 Rem (AR15) at 100 yards around 900 ft/lbs
People claim AR15 is high powered the 30-06 has nearly 3 times more energy at 100 yards.

The bullet did pass through Charlies neck it went in between 2 people behind him.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:16pm

Sophia wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 9:35pm:
I’m going to put this in here… remember the photos of gunman running from the roof?
And then they gave photos of “the shooter”.
Like, how many shooters were there again?
Look at the photo below… that first photo we are shown as the shooter on the run looks like a completely different person.


Just beware, a lot of those security photos were AI upscaled which changed the facial features.

It's just bad luck that one of the local police departments probably unknowingly, used one of these altered images for their release which makes them look legit.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:53pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:16pm:

Sophia wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 9:35pm:
I’m going to put this in here… remember the photos of gunman running from the roof?
And then they gave photos of “the shooter”.
Like, how many shooters were there again?
Look at the photo below… that first photo we are shown as the shooter on the run looks like a completely different person.


Just beware, a lot of those security photos were AI upscaled which changed the facial features.

It's just bad luck that one of the local police departments probably unknowingly, used one of these altered images for their release which makes them look legit.


The image top right wasn't released by police it was enhanced by someone else.

People have used original image from police to discredit the image on top right

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:58pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:53pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:16pm:

Sophia wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 9:35pm:
I’m going to put this in here… remember the photos of gunman running from the roof?
And then they gave photos of “the shooter”.
Like, how many shooters were there again?
Look at the photo below… that first photo we are shown as the shooter on the run looks like a completely different person.


Just beware, a lot of those security photos were AI upscaled which changed the facial features.

It's just bad luck that one of the local police departments probably unknowingly, used one of these altered images for their release which makes them look legit.


The image top right wasn't released by police it was enhanced by someone else.

People have used original image from police to discredit the image on top right


I understand that, but one of the local PDs used it, possibly without knowing, one of the AI enhanced photos.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:59pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:58pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:53pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:16pm:

Sophia wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 9:35pm:
I’m going to put this in here… remember the photos of gunman running from the roof?
And then they gave photos of “the shooter”.
Like, how many shooters were there again?
Look at the photo below… that first photo we are shown as the shooter on the run looks like a completely different person.


Just beware, a lot of those security photos were AI upscaled which changed the facial features.

It's just bad luck that one of the local police departments probably unknowingly, used one of these altered images for their release which makes them look legit.


The image top right wasn't released by police it was enhanced by someone else.

People have used original image from police to discredit the image on top right


I understand that, but one of the local PDs used it, possibly without knowing, one of the AI enhanced photos.


If one of the local PDs used it you should be able to provide a link proving which one to back your claim

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 18th, 2025 at 7:23am

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:59pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:58pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:53pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:16pm:

Sophia wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 9:35pm:
I’m going to put this in here… remember the photos of gunman running from the roof?
And then they gave photos of “the shooter”.
Like, how many shooters were there again?
Look at the photo below… that first photo we are shown as the shooter on the run looks like a completely different person.


Just beware, a lot of those security photos were AI upscaled which changed the facial features.

It's just bad luck that one of the local police departments probably unknowingly, used one of these altered images for their release which makes them look legit.


The image top right wasn't released by police it was enhanced by someone else.

People have used original image from police to discredit the image on top right


I understand that, but one of the local PDs used it, possibly without knowing, one of the AI enhanced photos.


If one of the local PDs used it you should be able to provide a link proving which one to back your claim


I tracked down the image, and it’s got LAPD Sheriff’s badge watermarks plastered on it, which on closer inspection makes absolutely no sense, so I’m calling it as a fake.

Looks like I’m not immune from mistakes either, so credit where it’s due for picking that one up.

That said, it doesn’t change the point I already made,


ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:58pm:
Just beware, a lot of those security photos were AI upscaled which changed the facial features.


But yes, I’ll need to start scrutinising some of these images more carefully myself in this deluge of deliberately fake information being put out there.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 18th, 2025 at 7:28am

SerialBrain9 wrote on Sep 17th, 2025 at 10:02am:
i think he was talking about our leftist forum members - they need mental help
👇


Speaking of scrutinising things better, you might want to check on this one Serial...

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Bobby. on Sep 18th, 2025 at 9:47pm

Judge grants Charlie Kirk’s widow a pre-trial protective order


Sep 17, 2025

Judge Tony F Graf has granted a pre-trial protective order for Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erika Kirk.

Tyler Robinson had his first virtual court hearing following his arrest for the alleged murder of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk.

Prosecutors in Utah announced they’ll charge the 22-year-old with the murder of Charlie Kirk and will be seeking the death penalty.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_05QKXG_nk

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Frank on Sep 19th, 2025 at 2:23am
Evidently Kimmel didn't get the memo - or, if he did get the memo, the talentless plonker and his forty-seven-man writers' room requires far more notice to craft their leaden lines and load them into the 'prompter for Jimmy to practice the night before. ABC TV has turned on a dime, and Charlie Kirk's killer is now the Regency bodice-ripper of our day. Where do I begin to tell the story of how great a love can be? With the heartwarming assassin's tender texts to his bepenised woman. From ABC's Chief National Correspondent Matt Gutman:

At first I assumed this guy was just some clueless flunky obsessed with transgenderism, but apparently he’s a senior stenographer which probably means that this is the start of a psy-op to turn Tyler Robinson into the next Luigi Mangione.
https://x.com/HansMahncke/status/1968106231987646470
I don’t think I’ve ever experienced a press conference in which we’ve read text messages that are A, so fulsome, so robust, so apparently, allegedly self-incriminating and yet, on the other hand, so touching — right — with the suspect reaching out to his roommate, who was allegedly his boyfriend, who we understand, you know, identified as male at birth, now identifies as female. And the terminology he used, he was trying to protect him. He kept calling him ‘my love.’ ‘My reason for doing this is to protect you,’ you know, but also asking him to delete the messages and not speak to law enforcement. So there’s this, this heartbreaking duality that we’re seeing very tragically playing out here.”
https://x.com/HansMahncke/status/1968106231987646470


In related news, the old coot who distracted police in order to let the tranny-besotted Romeo scram the scene turns out to be both a paedo and a friend of a senior advisor to Utah's trannyphiliac governor.

While Utah trannifies, Michigan Islamises:


A Dearborn, Michigan resident opposed naming a street after pro-Hezbollah figure Osama Siblani

Dearborn Mayor Abdullah Hammoud responded to the resident: “You do not belong in this city, Islamophobe! Get out!, you are not welcomed here”
https://x.com/Osint613/status/1968057543290392952
https://www.steynonline.com/15584/live-around-the-planet-wednesday-september-17th

Objecting to naming an American city after a Muslim terrorist is 'islamophobia and is not welcome by the... er...Muslim mayor of the American city.

The West has gone barking mad for enabling this and then putting up with it.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Karnal on Sep 19th, 2025 at 3:15am

Frank wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 2:23am:
Evidently Kimmel didn't get the memo - or, if he did get the memo, the talentless plonker and his forty-seven-man writers' room requires far more notice to craft their leaden lines and load them into the 'prompter for Jimmy to practice the night before. ABC TV has turned on a dime, and Charlie Kirk's killer is now the Regency bodice-ripper of our day. Where do I begin to tell the story of how great a love can be? With the heartwarming assassin's tender texts to his bepenised woman. From ABC's Chief National Correspondent Matt Gutman:

At first I assumed this guy was just some clueless flunky obsessed with transgenderism, but apparently he’s a senior stenographer which probably means that this is the start of a psy-op to turn Tyler Robinson into the next Luigi Mangione.
https://x.com/HansMahncke/status/1968106231987646470
I don’t think I’ve ever experienced a press conference in which we’ve read text messages that are A, so fulsome, so robust, so apparently, allegedly self-incriminating and yet, on the other hand, so touching — right — with the suspect reaching out to his roommate, who was allegedly his boyfriend, who we understand, you know, identified as male at birth, now identifies as female. And the terminology he used, he was trying to protect him. He kept calling him ‘my love.’ ‘My reason for doing this is to protect you,’ you know, but also asking him to delete the messages and not speak to law enforcement. So there’s this, this heartbreaking duality that we’re seeing very tragically playing out here.”
https://x.com/HansMahncke/status/1968106231987646470


In related news, the old coot who distracted police in order to let the tranny-besotted Romeo scram the scene turns out to be both a paedo and a friend of a senior advisor to Utah's trannyphiliac governor.

While Utah trannifies, Michigan Islamises:


A Dearborn, Michigan resident opposed naming a street after pro-Hezbollah figure Osama Siblani

Dearborn Mayor Abdullah Hammoud responded to the resident: “You do not belong in this city, Islamophobe! Get out!, you are not welcomed here”
https://x.com/Osint613/status/1968057543290392952
https://www.steynonline.com/15584/live-around-the-planet-wednesday-september-17th

Objecting to naming an American city after a Muslim terrorist is 'islamophobia and is not welcome by the... er...Muslim mayor of the American city.

The West has gone barking mad for enabling this and then putting up with it.


Just so, old boy. How very dare Jimmy expose your DL's cunning plan to blame the leftards for Chuck's death. How very dare he show actual research proving far-right violence is the biggest cause of terrorism in America.

So diabolically tasteless, no? Not only has Kash ordered the FBI to take that research down, it's treason to refer to its existence at all.

Of course the big fella's broadcasting chief told the ABC to fire Jimmy on Benny Johnson.

This is where all the big fella's officials go to get the word out these days.

Fake news baaaad, Kremlin-funded influencers good.

Truth, freedom and the American way, no?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Frank on Sep 19th, 2025 at 4:23am
We really know nothing about the accused at this point, other than that his father took the decision to turn in his own son while aware that Utah's governor was already talking about the death penalty. The short version of the alleged killer's life seems to be that he was a normal well-adjusted kid until he made the mistake of going to an American university - and brought home a bepenised woman.

In that sense, the accused had transitioned as thoroughly as his best girl. Any parent in today's America should feel some measure of sympathy for that dad, who has lost his son as totally as the father of the "girlfriend" has lost his: there but for the grace of God go I.

The fetching young lady with meat and two veg has, of course, always been a niche fetish for certain men. In the Eighties, I interviewed a woman running a Mayfair "escort" agency who told me Saudi princes were especially partial to it. In the Seventies, I was the night clerk at Lichtman's News in Toronto, on Adelaide between Bay and Yonge, and among the shrink-wrapped specialist porn mags at the back of the store was Busty and Hung, the first issue of which now goes for forty bucks on eBay.

Well, it's not shrink-wrapped anymore. It's out of the plastic and, ideologically speaking, on the desk of your middle-schooler's guidance-counsellor - and she's very alert as to who might be next for the treatment.
https://www.steynonline.com/15582/the-war-on-reality

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Karnal on Sep 19th, 2025 at 5:17am
Just so again, old chap. It may be thoroughly unfair to expose the White House playbook on Chuck's death  while his lovely wife and children are still in grief. How utterly tasteless and insensitive.

But it's par for the course to wax lyrical on chicks with dicks, no?

And don't forget, dear boy: chicks with leftard dicks. JD has the unseen ev.

Aren't they all?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Frank on Sep 19th, 2025 at 5:37am
On Saturday, Harper Moyski was laid to rest in Minneapolis. She was a ten-year-old girl, already superseded by newer horrors but gunned down by yet another psychotranny on the rampage.

How many others out there are willing to heed the siren song of Tranny Get Your Gun? Within an hour or two of Wednesday's sudden spasm of violence, I mentioned that certain social-media accounts appeared to have foreknowledge of it:

Charles James Kirk. Mr. College Drop out does not know whats coming tomorrow. Be ready. This isn't a threat. It's a promise.

The FBI is now reported to be investigating at least seven pro-trans TikTokkers who wrote similarly. Yet at The New York Times and CNN the leftie code of media omertŕ holds. Likewise, conservatives complain that the now wholly corrupt American press will not acknowledge that those Minnesota children were gunned down by the latest "transgender shooter".

Yet it might be more precise to describe little Harper's murderer as a "transgender shooter with second thoughts". As I wrote just a fortnight back:

The psychotranny is one of the many exciting new identities of our age, but the somnolent American media appear to have no interest in covering the subject. They persist, quite fraudulently, in referring to Robin Westman as 'she', even though Mr Westman himself renounced his trannification pre-bloodbath:

'Minneapolis school shooter Robin Westman confessed he was "tired of being trans": "I wish I never brain-washed myself"'

True, he wanted to be a girl, but he came to understand that he wasn't: 'I just know I cannot achieve that.'

Ah, but what does he know? 'Self-identifying' is all very well, until you decide you'd like to self-identify back to where you were. So, at The New York Times, NPR et al, Mr Westman is she-her through all eternity.

The misgendering police are likewise already all over the infelicitous Governor of Utah for referring to Lance/Luna Twiggs by the wrong pronoun. God forbid you should misgender people who want you dead.

The killer tranny of Minneapolis was self-aware enough to know that the extensive medical interventions could not achieve their stated purpose and "affirm'" his womanhood. What remains unknown is what they did instead. Andy Ngo's detailed investigation into the Utah killer's sweetheart has uncovered some interesting comments re the pain of D-I-Y hormone injections:

seriously. sometimes it's just muscle memory, sometimes i gotta get buzzed on something so i'm not too anxious about it.

What permanent damage is being done by the mass implementation of "gender-affirming care"? Say what you like about our enemies, but Putin and Xi know what a woman is and aren't deluded enough to think they can manufacture one out of your son. Nevertheless, despite the dwindling moral authority of a decayed west, at least - unlike all those Sudanese clitoridectomists - we don't physically mutilate little girls.

Oh, hang on a minute, my bad. Yes, we do. Whoever you're up against, if you're the one slicing the breasts off middle-school lasses, you're the bad guys.
https://www.steynonline.com/15582/the-war-on-reality


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Bobby. on Sep 19th, 2025 at 5:19pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 5:17am:
Just so again, old chap. It may be thoroughly unfair to expose the White House playbook on Chuck's death  while his lovely wife and children are still in grief. How utterly tasteless and insensitive.

But it's par for the course to wax lyrical on chicks with dicks, no?

And don't forget, dear boy: chicks with leftard dicks. JD has the unseen ev.

Aren't they all?



Karnal,
that left wing lunatic -  Tyler Robinson -

they're gunna hang em and hang em high.


https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/spotlight-on-utahs-death-penalty

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Karnal on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:24pm
I see. So we've momentarily stepped back from the leftards, have we? Now it's solely the trannies.

We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia, no?

Always absolutely never ever, innit.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Karnal on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 5:19pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 5:17am:
Just so again, old chap. It may be thoroughly unfair to expose the White House playbook on Chuck's death  while his lovely wife and children are still in grief. How utterly tasteless and insensitive.

But it's par for the course to wax lyrical on chicks with dicks, no?

And don't forget, dear boy: chicks with leftard dicks. JD has the unseen ev.

Aren't they all?



Karnal,
that left wing lunatic -  Tyler Robinson -

they're gunna hang em and hang em high.


https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/spotlight-on-utahs-death-penalty


Here you go, old boy. Bobby begs to differ.

Bobby, I'm curious. What are you going to say when the big fella orders the leftard mass arrests?

He'll be targeting kids on the street, just like Bibi's doing with your DL's weapons.

All good?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Bobby. on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:39pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 5:19pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 5:17am:
Just so again, old chap. It may be thoroughly unfair to expose the White House playbook on Chuck's death  while his lovely wife and children are still in grief. How utterly tasteless and insensitive.

But it's par for the course to wax lyrical on chicks with dicks, no?

And don't forget, dear boy: chicks with leftard dicks. JD has the unseen ev.

Aren't they all?



Karnal,
that left wing lunatic -  Tyler Robinson -

they're gunna hang em and hang em high.


https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/spotlight-on-utahs-death-penalty


Here you go, old boy. Bobby begs to differ.

Bobby, I'm curious. What are you going to say when the big fella orders the leftard mass arrests?

He'll be targeting kids on the street, just like Bibi's doing with your DL's weapons.

All good?



No - Trump will only target adult leftards.   :-[


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Bobby. on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:40pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:24pm:
I see. So we've momentarily stepped back from the leftards, have we? Now it's solely the trannies.

We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia, no?

Always absolutely never ever, innit.



Trump will target trannies with guns.

Nothing wrong with that is there?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:43pm
So far The Big Fullah has successfully Bibi targeted a couple of drug boats...

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Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Frank on Sep 19th, 2025 at 9:07pm
The short version of the alleged killer's life seems to be that he was a normal well-adjusted kid until he made the mistake of going to an American university - and brought home a bepenised woman.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 19th, 2025 at 9:56pm

Frank wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 9:07pm:
The short version of the alleged killer's life seems to be that he was a normal well-adjusted kid until he made the mistake of going to an American university - and brought home a bepenised woman.


He only went to university for 14 weeks, Frank.

Still, that's 14 more than you.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by aquascoot on Sep 19th, 2025 at 9:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:24pm:
I see. So we've momentarily stepped back from the leftards, have we? Now it's solely the trannies.

We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia, no?

Always absolutely never ever, innit.



Trump will target trannies with guns.

Nothing wrong with that is there?



I reckon he should.

Executive order, no tranny can have a gun

That will rile up the leftards.
;)

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 19th, 2025 at 10:02pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 9:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:24pm:
I see. So we've momentarily stepped back from the leftards, have we? Now it's solely the trannies.

We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia, no?

Always absolutely never ever, innit.



Trump will target trannies with guns.

Nothing wrong with that is there?



I reckon he should.

Executive order, no tranny can have a gun

That will rile up the leftards.
;)


And a few prison inmates.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Dnarever on Sep 19th, 2025 at 10:02pm
To this point there is still nothing to support this guy brought up in a MAGA home with a MAGA family facing 20 plus years of ultra right indoctrination who is not politically registered with any political party and didn't vote in the last 2 elections is a Democrat somehow.

Seems a rather silly conclusion.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Dnarever on Sep 19th, 2025 at 10:04pm
All the top US states listed for viewing Trans and gay Porn are republican states. Republican states don't have less gays and Trans they just have more closets.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Dnarever on Sep 19th, 2025 at 10:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 10:02pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 9:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:24pm:
I see. So we've momentarily stepped back from the leftards, have we? Now it's solely the trannies.

We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia, no?

Always absolutely never ever, innit.



Trump will target trannies with guns.

Nothing wrong with that is there?



I reckon he should.

Executive order, no tranny can have a gun

That will rile up the leftards.
;)


And a few prison inmates.



Is there any doubt that she makes a better woman ?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 19th, 2025 at 10:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 9:56pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 9:07pm:
The short version of the alleged killer's life seems to be that he was a normal well-adjusted kid until he made the mistake of going to an American university - and brought home a bepenised woman.


He only went to university for 14 weeks, Frank.


In 2021.

So are we supposed to believe the radicalisation just went into hibernation for four years?

Or was it him going to trade school to become an electrician that radicalised him and pushed him over the edge?

Or is it simply that we don't actually know yet?

It still doesn't change anything, he's still a scumbag, he was not a hero and we shouldn't immortalize tragedies in bronze.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 19th, 2025 at 10:22pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 10:04pm:
All the top US states listed for viewing Trans and gay Porn are republican states. Republican states don't have less gays and Trans they just have more closets.


Yeah - but a better class of closet...

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Bobby. on Sep 19th, 2025 at 10:57pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 9:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:24pm:
I see. So we've momentarily stepped back from the leftards, have we? Now it's solely the trannies.

We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia, no?

Always absolutely never ever, innit.



Trump will target trannies with guns.

Nothing wrong with that is there?



I reckon he should.

Executive order, no tranny can have a gun

That will rile up the leftards.
;)



Yep - just wait for Greggy to explode.   ;D

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by mothra on Sep 19th, 2025 at 11:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 10:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 9:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:24pm:
I see. So we've momentarily stepped back from the leftards, have we? Now it's solely the trannies.

We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia, no?

Always absolutely never ever, innit.



Trump will target trannies with guns.

Nothing wrong with that is there?



I reckon he should.

Executive order, no tranny can have a gun

That will rile up the leftards.
;)



Yep - just wait for Greggy to explode.   ;D



The US is sitting on a tinder box and giving off sparks ... what reasonable person would want to rile anyone up just now?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Bobby. on Sep 19th, 2025 at 11:12pm

mothra wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 11:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 10:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 9:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:24pm:
I see. So we've momentarily stepped back from the leftards, have we? Now it's solely the trannies.

We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia, no?

Always absolutely never ever, innit.



Trump will target trannies with guns.

Nothing wrong with that is there?



I reckon he should.

Executive order, no tranny can have a gun

That will rile up the leftards.
;)



Yep - just wait for Greggy to explode.   ;D



The US is sitting on a tinder box and giving off sparks ... what reasonable person would want to rile anyone up just now?



So - should trannies or left wing lunatics be allowed to have guns?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 19th, 2025 at 11:12pm

mothra wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 11:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 10:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 9:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 6:24pm:
I see. So we've momentarily stepped back from the leftards, have we? Now it's solely the trannies.

We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia, no?

Always absolutely never ever, innit.



Trump will target trannies with guns.

Nothing wrong with that is there?



I reckon he should.

Executive order, no tranny can have a gun

That will rile up the leftards.
;)



Yep - just wait for Greggy to explode.   ;D



The US is sitting on a tinder box and giving off sparks ... what reasonable person would want to rile anyone up just now?


Might as well get it over with then... Queers v Rednecks... should be interesting.. anyone mentally unstable enough to think he/she is of the opposite gender should never be allowed near a gun.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Frank on Sep 19th, 2025 at 11:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 9:56pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 9:07pm:
The short version of the alleged killer's life seems to be that he was a normal well-adjusted kid until he made the mistake of going to an American university - and brought home a bepenised woman.


He only went to university for 14 weeks, Frank.

Still, that's 14 more than you.



So much for university 'education'.  Which is one reason Kirk went to university campues to  argue against the industrial scale brainwashing and indoctrination that goes on there across the Western world.

And entirely expectedly, the loudest clapping for the trannifada, intifada, antifada coalescing in Kirk's murder is coming from 'educators' in schools and universities.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by mothra on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:15am

Frank wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 11:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 9:56pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 19th, 2025 at 9:07pm:
The short version of the alleged killer's life seems to be that he was a normal well-adjusted kid until he made the mistake of going to an American university - and brought home a bepenised woman.


He only went to university for 14 weeks, Frank.

Still, that's 14 more than you.



So much for university 'education'.  Which is one reason Kirk went to university campues to  argue against the industrial scale brainwashing and indoctrination that goes on there across the Western world.

And entirely expectedly, the loudest clapping for the trannifada, intifada, antifada coalescing in Kirk's murder is coming from 'educators' in schools and universities.



Stupid conspiracy theory.

It is far more likely that universities the world over are simply teaching what the data says; what centuries of formalised theoretical research, analysis, understanding and application have brought us to.

Yet today's right is railing against science, medicine, history, social science, art, drama etc.

Now, were i a  betting woman ...

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:23am

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:15am:
Stupid conspiracy theory.

It is far more likely that universities the world over are simply teaching what the data says; what centuries of formalised theoretical research, analysis, understanding and application have brought us to.

Yet today's right is railing against science, medicine, history, social science, art, drama etc.

Now, were i a  betting woman ...


What is a woman did you study Biology which is a part of Science in High School?

People didn't have any trouble with this question over 10 years ago
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

It's the left who are against Science and Medicine



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Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by mothra on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:39am
The "what is a woman" question has been asked by stupid men ever since we first wanted to vote. It's not new. You guys can never think of anything new.

And the answer is, as it was then, whatever she wants to be.

And it's not lost on us that you don;t ask with equal zeal "what is a man".

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by MeisterEckhart on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:48am

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:39am:
And it's not lost on us that you don;t ask with equal zeal "what is a man".

That question is asked by males every day... even before puberty!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITwPzduUmCw

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by mothra on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:53am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:48am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:39am:
And it's not lost on us that you don;t ask with equal zeal "what is a man".

That question is asked by males every day... even before puberty!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITwPzduUmCw



Well, there is that broshpere wank but i'm talking about how monumentally less triggered by trans men these idiots are than they are by trans women.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by MeisterEckhart on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:56am

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:53am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:48am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:39am:
And it's not lost on us that you don;t ask with equal zeal "what is a man".

That question is asked by males every day... even before puberty!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITwPzduUmCw



Well, there is that broshpere wank but i'm talking about how monumentally less triggered by trans men these idiots are than they are by trans women.

The question "What is a man?" is asked by all males of themselves often... ask your son(s) or male relatives.

Men are often physically challenged, or the intimation of it... So, the question is often asked.

Have you ever wondered why the term pussy, refers to both female genitalia and an effeminate man?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by mothra on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:59am
Again, it's not asked in the context of the trans situation. These men are far more triggered byt trans women that they are by trans men.

I'm not going to debate with someone who either refuses to read what is put to them or fails to process it. Ask Crappler .This post and you last one were unnecessary.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by MeisterEckhart on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:05am

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:59am:
Again, it's not asked in the context of the trans situation. These men are far more triggered byt trans women that they are by trans men.

I'm not going to debate with someone who either refuses to read what is put to them or fails to process it. Ask Crappler .This post and you last one were unnecessary.

That you can't see the connection says more about you than you know.

Most men aspire to be the ideal man... that some women want to be men is more easily accepted than are those men who want to be women... they're deviating 180 from the ideal.

We all know (and fear!) that there is no such state as 100% male... some feminine traits persist after childhood in all males...

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:09am

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:39am:
The "what is a woman" question has been asked by stupid men ever since we first wanted to vote. It's not new. You guys can never think of anything new.

And the answer is, as it was then, whatever she wants to be.

And it's not lost on us that you don;t ask with equal zeal "what is a man".


You accuse the right of being science deniers then when it comes to what is a woman you make it up as you go along?

Then you try to deflect when you can't answer the question.

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Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by MeisterEckhart on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:16am

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:09am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:39am:
The "what is a woman" question has been asked by stupid men ever since we first wanted to vote. It's not new. You guys can never think of anything new.

And the answer is, as it was then, whatever she wants to be.

And it's not lost on us that you don;t ask with equal zeal "what is a man".


You accuse the right of being science deniers then when it comes to what is a woman you make it up as you go along?

Then you try to deflect when you can't answer the question.

It's a form of female narcissism... that they can beat men at their own game at being male... to create the delusion, they usually prefer the company of effete men.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by mothra on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:28am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:05am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:59am:
Again, it's not asked in the context of the trans situation. These men are far more triggered byt trans women that they are by trans men.

I'm not going to debate with someone who either refuses to read what is put to them or fails to process it. Ask Crappler .This post and you last one were unnecessary.

That you can't see the connection says more about you than you know.

Most men aspire to be the ideal man... that some women want to be men is more easily accepted than are those men who want to be women... they're deviating 180 from the ideal.

We all know (and fear!) that there is no such state as 100% male... some feminine traits persist after childhood in all males...



I acknowledged the connection in my first response to you. Don't be disingenuous.

You are correct that gender roles are ascribed in an oppressively all-consuming way to all girls, boys, men and women. We know these gender roles differ from society to society with so much variance, some societies don't even have them.

The way pressure is put on people today is a result of a pervasive patriarchy that has remained intact for centuries in the western world. It is now at odds with research and is flailing ... throwing the brosphere and alternate facts at us to claw it's fingernails back in. And my has it done so; and with sickening results. Look no further than just how much of that movement relies on the abuse, assault and even trafficking of women and girls.

May i suggest you watch this weeks Dateline on SBS, with the second episode due next week on Trad Wives. No surprises there.

Yet none of this delves into just why they are so much more furious with trans women than they are with trans men. Sure there are low hanging explanations such as fear of accidental intimate interest or deluded chivarly but these, while verifiable, don' taccount for the obsessive demand that everyone tell them what a woman is.

I would say that it's every bit about ownership of women and demands on men not to step off the ladder of hierarchy. We covered all of this in why gay men are hated but lesbians are fetishised (unless they're not hot then they are ridiculed and dismissed). There's no unifying principle here. It's as though we're talking about two different species.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by mothra on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:28am

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:09am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:39am:
The "what is a woman" question has been asked by stupid men ever since we first wanted to vote. It's not new. You guys can never think of anything new.

And the answer is, as it was then, whatever she wants to be.

And it's not lost on us that you don;t ask with equal zeal "what is a man".


You accuse the right of being science deniers then when it comes to what is a woman you make it up as you go along?

Then you try to deflect when you can't answer the question.



I did answer the question.

You just didn't like the answer.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by MeisterEckhart on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:38am

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:28am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:05am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:59am:
Again, it's not asked in the context of the trans situation. These men are far more triggered byt trans women that they are by trans men.

I'm not going to debate with someone who either refuses to read what is put to them or fails to process it. Ask Crappler .This post and you last one were unnecessary.

That you can't see the connection says more about you than you know.

Most men aspire to be the ideal man... that some women want to be men is more easily accepted than are those men who want to be women... they're deviating 180 from the ideal.

We all know (and fear!) that there is no such state as 100% male... some feminine traits persist after childhood in all males...



I acknowledged the connection in my first response to you. Don't be disingenuous.

You are correct that gender roles are ascribed in an oppressively all-consuming way to all girls, boys, men and women. We know these gender roles differ from society to society with so much variance, some societies don't even have them.

The way pressure is put on people today is a result of a pervasive patriarchy that has remained intact for centuries in the western world. It is now at odds with research and is flailing ... throwing the brosphere and alternate facts at us to claw it's fingernails back in. And my has it done so; and with sickening results. Look no further than just how much of that movement relies on the abuse, assault and even trafficking of women and girls.

May i suggest you watch this weeks Dateline on SBS, with the second episode due next week on Trad Wives. No surprises there.

Yet none of this delves into just why they are so much more furious with trans women than they are with trans men. Sure there are low hanging explanations such as fear of accidental intimate interest or deluded chivarly but these, while verifiable, don' taccount for the obsessive demand that everyone tell them what a woman is.

I would say that it's every bit about ownership of women and demands on men not to step off the ladder of hierarchy. We covered all of this in why gay men are hated but lesbians are fetishised (unless they're not hot then they are ridiculed and dismissed). There's no unifying principle here. It's as though we're talking about two different species.

Yep... well...

Like the young female maths genius Hannah Mira Cairo, a 17-year-old mathematician who disproved the 40-year-old Mizohata–Takeuchi conjecture...

Turns out she is transitioning to male...

I thought... yep, well... that explains it!

The rise of female ascendancy in the workplace has led to a sharp rise in complaints of workplace bullying by women against women...

Turns out women are going to be as crap at being 'ideal men' as most men are.

The highest divorce rate is now with lesbian couples... why is that?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by mothra on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:43am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:38am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:28am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:05am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:59am:
Again, it's not asked in the context of the trans situation. These men are far more triggered byt trans women that they are by trans men.

I'm not going to debate with someone who either refuses to read what is put to them or fails to process it. Ask Crappler .This post and you last one were unnecessary.

That you can't see the connection says more about you than you know.

Most men aspire to be the ideal man... that some women want to be men is more easily accepted than are those men who want to be women... they're deviating 180 from the ideal.

We all know (and fear!) that there is no such state as 100% male... some feminine traits persist after childhood in all males...



I acknowledged the connection in my first response to you. Don't be disingenuous.

You are correct that gender roles are ascribed in an oppressively all-consuming way to all girls, boys, men and women. We know these gender roles differ from society to society with so much variance, some societies don't even have them.

The way pressure is put on people today is a result of a pervasive patriarchy that has remained intact for centuries in the western world. It is now at odds with research and is flailing ... throwing the brosphere and alternate facts at us to claw it's fingernails back in. And my has it done so; and with sickening results. Look no further than just how much of that movement relies on the abuse, assault and even trafficking of women and girls.

May i suggest you watch this weeks Dateline on SBS, with the second episode due next week on Trad Wives. No surprises there.

Yet none of this delves into just why they are so much more furious with trans women than they are with trans men. Sure there are low hanging explanations such as fear of accidental intimate interest or deluded chivarly but these, while verifiable, don' taccount for the obsessive demand that everyone tell them what a woman is.

I would say that it's every bit about ownership of women and demands on men not to step off the ladder of hierarchy. We covered all of this in why gay men are hated but lesbians are fetishised (unless they're not hot then they are ridiculed and dismissed). There's no unifying principle here. It's as though we're talking about two different species.

Yep... well...

Like the young female maths genius Hannah Mira Cairo, a 17-year-old mathematician who disproved the 40-year-old Mizohata–Takeuchi conjecture...

Turns out she is transitioning to male...

I thought... yep, well... that explains it!

The rise of female ascendancy in the workplace has led to a sharp rise in complaints of workplace bullying by women against women...

Turns out women are going to be as crap at being 'ideal men' as most men are.




Two things ... of course there's a rise in workplace bullying aamong women. There are actually women there now. Although i accept power dynamics between women can be fraught, especially towards younger women. Could i tell you some stories.

Secondly, at absolutely now point have women ever sought to be "ideal men". Laughable. It's as though we don't already have to be so much more.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by MeisterEckhart on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:47am

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:43am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:38am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:28am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:05am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:59am:
Again, it's not asked in the context of the trans situation. These men are far more triggered byt trans women that they are by trans men.

I'm not going to debate with someone who either refuses to read what is put to them or fails to process it. Ask Crappler .This post and you last one were unnecessary.

That you can't see the connection says more about you than you know.

Most men aspire to be the ideal man... that some women want to be men is more easily accepted than are those men who want to be women... they're deviating 180 from the ideal.

We all know (and fear!) that there is no such state as 100% male... some feminine traits persist after childhood in all males...



I acknowledged the connection in my first response to you. Don't be disingenuous.

You are correct that gender roles are ascribed in an oppressively all-consuming way to all girls, boys, men and women. We know these gender roles differ from society to society with so much variance, some societies don't even have them.

The way pressure is put on people today is a result of a pervasive patriarchy that has remained intact for centuries in the western world. It is now at odds with research and is flailing ... throwing the brosphere and alternate facts at us to claw it's fingernails back in. And my has it done so; and with sickening results. Look no further than just how much of that movement relies on the abuse, assault and even trafficking of women and girls.

May i suggest you watch this weeks Dateline on SBS, with the second episode due next week on Trad Wives. No surprises there.

Yet none of this delves into just why they are so much more furious with trans women than they are with trans men. Sure there are low hanging explanations such as fear of accidental intimate interest or deluded chivarly but these, while verifiable, don' taccount for the obsessive demand that everyone tell them what a woman is.

I would say that it's every bit about ownership of women and demands on men not to step off the ladder of hierarchy. We covered all of this in why gay men are hated but lesbians are fetishised (unless they're not hot then they are ridiculed and dismissed). There's no unifying principle here. It's as though we're talking about two different species.

Yep... well...

Like the young female maths genius Hannah Mira Cairo, a 17-year-old mathematician who disproved the 40-year-old Mizohata–Takeuchi conjecture...

Turns out she is transitioning to male...

I thought... yep, well... that explains it!

The rise of female ascendancy in the workplace has led to a sharp rise in complaints of workplace bullying by women against women...

Turns out women are going to be as crap at being 'ideal men' as most men are.




Two things ... of course there's a rise in workplace bullying aamong women. There are actually women there now. Although i accept power dynamics between women can be fraught, especially towards younger women. Could i tell you some stories.

Secondly, at absolutely now point have women ever sought to be "ideal men". Laughable. It's as though we don't already have to be so much more.

And the lesbian divorce rate reaching above that of gay and hetero couples?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by mothra on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:48am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:47am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:43am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:38am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:28am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:05am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:59am:
Again, it's not asked in the context of the trans situation. These men are far more triggered byt trans women that they are by trans men.

I'm not going to debate with someone who either refuses to read what is put to them or fails to process it. Ask Crappler .This post and you last one were unnecessary.

That you can't see the connection says more about you than you know.

Most men aspire to be the ideal man... that some women want to be men is more easily accepted than are those men who want to be women... they're deviating 180 from the ideal.

We all know (and fear!) that there is no such state as 100% male... some feminine traits persist after childhood in all males...



I acknowledged the connection in my first response to you. Don't be disingenuous.

You are correct that gender roles are ascribed in an oppressively all-consuming way to all girls, boys, men and women. We know these gender roles differ from society to society with so much variance, some societies don't even have them.

The way pressure is put on people today is a result of a pervasive patriarchy that has remained intact for centuries in the western world. It is now at odds with research and is flailing ... throwing the brosphere and alternate facts at us to claw it's fingernails back in. And my has it done so; and with sickening results. Look no further than just how much of that movement relies on the abuse, assault and even trafficking of women and girls.

May i suggest you watch this weeks Dateline on SBS, with the second episode due next week on Trad Wives. No surprises there.

Yet none of this delves into just why they are so much more furious with trans women than they are with trans men. Sure there are low hanging explanations such as fear of accidental intimate interest or deluded chivarly but these, while verifiable, don' taccount for the obsessive demand that everyone tell them what a woman is.

I would say that it's every bit about ownership of women and demands on men not to step off the ladder of hierarchy. We covered all of this in why gay men are hated but lesbians are fetishised (unless they're not hot then they are ridiculed and dismissed). There's no unifying principle here. It's as though we're talking about two different species.

Yep... well...

Like the young female maths genius Hannah Mira Cairo, a 17-year-old mathematician who disproved the 40-year-old Mizohata–Takeuchi conjecture...

Turns out she is transitioning to male...

I thought... yep, well... that explains it!

The rise of female ascendancy in the workplace has led to a sharp rise in complaints of workplace bullying by women against women...

Turns out women are going to be as crap at being 'ideal men' as most men are.




Two things ... of course there's a rise in workplace bullying aamong women. There are actually women there now. Although i accept power dynamics between women can be fraught, especially towards younger women. Could i tell you some stories.

Secondly, at absolutely now point have women ever sought to be "ideal men". Laughable. It's as though we don't already have to be so much more.

And the lesbian divorce rate reaching above that of gay and hetero couples?



Meh. Marriage is antiquated.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by MeisterEckhart on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:50am

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:48am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:47am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:43am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:38am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:28am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:05am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:59am:
Again, it's not asked in the context of the trans situation. These men are far more triggered byt trans women that they are by trans men.

I'm not going to debate with someone who either refuses to read what is put to them or fails to process it. Ask Crappler .This post and you last one were unnecessary.

That you can't see the connection says more about you than you know.

Most men aspire to be the ideal man... that some women want to be men is more easily accepted than are those men who want to be women... they're deviating 180 from the ideal.

We all know (and fear!) that there is no such state as 100% male... some feminine traits persist after childhood in all males...



I acknowledged the connection in my first response to you. Don't be disingenuous.

You are correct that gender roles are ascribed in an oppressively all-consuming way to all girls, boys, men and women. We know these gender roles differ from society to society with so much variance, some societies don't even have them.

The way pressure is put on people today is a result of a pervasive patriarchy that has remained intact for centuries in the western world. It is now at odds with research and is flailing ... throwing the brosphere and alternate facts at us to claw it's fingernails back in. And my has it done so; and with sickening results. Look no further than just how much of that movement relies on the abuse, assault and even trafficking of women and girls.

May i suggest you watch this weeks Dateline on SBS, with the second episode due next week on Trad Wives. No surprises there.

Yet none of this delves into just why they are so much more furious with trans women than they are with trans men. Sure there are low hanging explanations such as fear of accidental intimate interest or deluded chivarly but these, while verifiable, don' taccount for the obsessive demand that everyone tell them what a woman is.

I would say that it's every bit about ownership of women and demands on men not to step off the ladder of hierarchy. We covered all of this in why gay men are hated but lesbians are fetishised (unless they're not hot then they are ridiculed and dismissed). There's no unifying principle here. It's as though we're talking about two different species.

Yep... well...

Like the young female maths genius Hannah Mira Cairo, a 17-year-old mathematician who disproved the 40-year-old Mizohata–Takeuchi conjecture...

Turns out she is transitioning to male...

I thought... yep, well... that explains it!

The rise of female ascendancy in the workplace has led to a sharp rise in complaints of workplace bullying by women against women...

Turns out women are going to be as crap at being 'ideal men' as most men are.




Two things ... of course there's a rise in workplace bullying aamong women. There are actually women there now. Although i accept power dynamics between women can be fraught, especially towards younger women. Could i tell you some stories.

Secondly, at absolutely now point have women ever sought to be "ideal men". Laughable. It's as though we don't already have to be so much more.

And the lesbian divorce rate reaching above that of gay and hetero couples?



Meh. Marriage is antiquated.

Thought it might be that many women can be as big a c~nt to other women as they can be to men.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by mothra on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:53am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:50am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:48am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:47am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:43am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:38am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:28am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:05am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:59am:
Again, it's not asked in the context of the trans situation. These men are far more triggered byt trans women that they are by trans men.

I'm not going to debate with someone who either refuses to read what is put to them or fails to process it. Ask Crappler .This post and you last one were unnecessary.

That you can't see the connection says more about you than you know.

Most men aspire to be the ideal man... that some women want to be men is more easily accepted than are those men who want to be women... they're deviating 180 from the ideal.

We all know (and fear!) that there is no such state as 100% male... some feminine traits persist after childhood in all males...



I acknowledged the connection in my first response to you. Don't be disingenuous.

You are correct that gender roles are ascribed in an oppressively all-consuming way to all girls, boys, men and women. We know these gender roles differ from society to society with so much variance, some societies don't even have them.

The way pressure is put on people today is a result of a pervasive patriarchy that has remained intact for centuries in the western world. It is now at odds with research and is flailing ... throwing the brosphere and alternate facts at us to claw it's fingernails back in. And my has it done so; and with sickening results. Look no further than just how much of that movement relies on the abuse, assault and even trafficking of women and girls.

May i suggest you watch this weeks Dateline on SBS, with the second episode due next week on Trad Wives. No surprises there.

Yet none of this delves into just why they are so much more furious with trans women than they are with trans men. Sure there are low hanging explanations such as fear of accidental intimate interest or deluded chivarly but these, while verifiable, don' taccount for the obsessive demand that everyone tell them what a woman is.

I would say that it's every bit about ownership of women and demands on men not to step off the ladder of hierarchy. We covered all of this in why gay men are hated but lesbians are fetishised (unless they're not hot then they are ridiculed and dismissed). There's no unifying principle here. It's as though we're talking about two different species.

Yep... well...

Like the young female maths genius Hannah Mira Cairo, a 17-year-old mathematician who disproved the 40-year-old Mizohata–Takeuchi conjecture...

Turns out she is transitioning to male...

I thought... yep, well... that explains it!

The rise of female ascendancy in the workplace has led to a sharp rise in complaints of workplace bullying by women against women...

Turns out women are going to be as crap at being 'ideal men' as most men are.




Two things ... of course there's a rise in workplace bullying aamong women. There are actually women there now. Although i accept power dynamics between women can be fraught, especially towards younger women. Could i tell you some stories.

Secondly, at absolutely now point have women ever sought to be "ideal men". Laughable. It's as though we don't already have to be so much more.

And the lesbian divorce rate reaching above that of gay and hetero couples?



Meh. Marriage is antiquated.

Thought it might be that many women can be as big a c~nt to other women as they can be to men.



I did say something about low hanging explanations in a previous post. In any event, gender quality is the look we're going for now isn't it?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by MeisterEckhart on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:58am

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:53am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:50am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:48am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:47am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:43am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:38am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:28am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:05am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:59am:
Again, it's not asked in the context of the trans situation. These men are far more triggered byt trans women that they are by trans men.

I'm not going to debate with someone who either refuses to read what is put to them or fails to process it. Ask Crappler .This post and you last one were unnecessary.

That you can't see the connection says more about you than you know.

Most men aspire to be the ideal man... that some women want to be men is more easily accepted than are those men who want to be women... they're deviating 180 from the ideal.

We all know (and fear!) that there is no such state as 100% male... some feminine traits persist after childhood in all males...



I acknowledged the connection in my first response to you. Don't be disingenuous.

You are correct that gender roles are ascribed in an oppressively all-consuming way to all girls, boys, men and women. We know these gender roles differ from society to society with so much variance, some societies don't even have them.

The way pressure is put on people today is a result of a pervasive patriarchy that has remained intact for centuries in the western world. It is now at odds with research and is flailing ... throwing the brosphere and alternate facts at us to claw it's fingernails back in. And my has it done so; and with sickening results. Look no further than just how much of that movement relies on the abuse, assault and even trafficking of women and girls.

May i suggest you watch this weeks Dateline on SBS, with the second episode due next week on Trad Wives. No surprises there.

Yet none of this delves into just why they are so much more furious with trans women than they are with trans men. Sure there are low hanging explanations such as fear of accidental intimate interest or deluded chivarly but these, while verifiable, don' taccount for the obsessive demand that everyone tell them what a woman is.

I would say that it's every bit about ownership of women and demands on men not to step off the ladder of hierarchy. We covered all of this in why gay men are hated but lesbians are fetishised (unless they're not hot then they are ridiculed and dismissed). There's no unifying principle here. It's as though we're talking about two different species.

Yep... well...

Like the young female maths genius Hannah Mira Cairo, a 17-year-old mathematician who disproved the 40-year-old Mizohata–Takeuchi conjecture...

Turns out she is transitioning to male...

I thought... yep, well... that explains it!

The rise of female ascendancy in the workplace has led to a sharp rise in complaints of workplace bullying by women against women...

Turns out women are going to be as crap at being 'ideal men' as most men are.




Two things ... of course there's a rise in workplace bullying aamong women. There are actually women there now. Although i accept power dynamics between women can be fraught, especially towards younger women. Could i tell you some stories.

Secondly, at absolutely now point have women ever sought to be "ideal men". Laughable. It's as though we don't already have to be so much more.

And the lesbian divorce rate reaching above that of gay and hetero couples?



Meh. Marriage is antiquated.

Thought it might be that many women can be as big a c~nt to other women as they can be to men.



I did say something about low hanging explanations in a previous post. In any event, gender quality is the look we're going for now isn't it?

You mean like "Marriage is antiquated"?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:22am

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:09am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:39am:
The "what is a woman" question has been asked by stupid men ever since we first wanted to vote. It's not new. You guys can never think of anything new.

And the answer is, as it was then, whatever she wants to be.

And it's not lost on us that you don;t ask with equal zeal "what is a man".


You accuse the right of being science deniers then when it comes to what is a woman you make it up as you go along?

Then you try to deflect when you can't answer the question.


Do you want a biological definition, a legal one, or a social one? Because each discipline answers that question differently.

A woman is an adult human who identifies and lives as female. Biologically, women are typically defined by reproductive traits, but in society and law, we recognise gender as more than just biology.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Bobby. on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:30am

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:39am:
The "what is a woman" question has been asked by stupid men ever since we first wanted to vote.
It's not new. You guys can never think of anything new.

And the answer is, as it was then, whatever she wants to be.

And it's not lost on us that you don;t ask with equal zeal "what is a man".




Simple -

a woman has a slot and a man has a sausage.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Jovial Monk on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:38am
So trans people are real men and women?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 20th, 2025 at 8:43am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:22am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:09am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:39am:
The "what is a woman" question has been asked by stupid men ever since we first wanted to vote. It's not new. You guys can never think of anything new.

And the answer is, as it was then, whatever she wants to be.

And it's not lost on us that you don;t ask with equal zeal "what is a man".


You accuse the right of being science deniers then when it comes to what is a woman you make it up as you go along?

Then you try to deflect when you can't answer the question.


Do you want a biological definition, a legal one, or a social one? Because each discipline answers that question differently.

A woman is an adult human who identifies and lives as female. Biologically, women are typically defined by reproductive traits, but in society and law, we recognise gender as more than just biology.


In the context of Mothra saying the left are science deniers what does science say the definition of a woman is according to Biology?

It was the left who changed the definition of a woman which shows they are the science deniers.

As Mothra said you ignore science and make it up as you go along.

It shows the stupidity and hypocrisy of the left accusing the right of being science deniers when they're the ones denying science.

What does medicine which Mothra also claims the right ignore say about this fetish men with dicks have with dressing up as a woman and pretending to be one?
https://www.google.com/search?q=autogynephilia+treatment&sca_esv=465b246665d554e3&source=hp&ei=MNzNaPW7IsqO4-EP35iN-AE&iflsig=AOw8s4IAAAAAaM3qQEqz9so9O_IulU6g-qYzlmWfSwvr&oq=autogy&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IgZhdXRvZ3kqAggCMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDILEC4YgAQYxwEYrwEyBRAAGIAEMgcQABiABBgKMgUQABiABDILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwEyBRAAGIAESKs6UABYpBNwAHgAkAEAmAGPBqABohWqAQsyLTIuMS4xLjEuMbgBAcgBAPgBAZgCBqACohbCAgsQLhiABBixAxiDAcICERAuGIAEGLEDGNEDGIMBGMcBwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAg4QLhiABBixAxjRAxjHAcICDhAuGIAEGLEDGIMBGIoFwgIIEC4YgAQYsQPCAhYQLhiABBixAxjRAxiDARjHARiKBRgKwgILEAAYgAQYkgMYigXCAhEQLhiABBixAxiDARjHARivAcICDhAuGIAEGMcBGI4FGK8BmAMAkgcLMi0xLjIuMS4xLjGgB9JCsgcLMi0xLjIuMS4xLjG4B6IWwgcFMy00LjLIB2s&sclient=gws-wiz&sei=PtzNaNy1FLyb4-EP6aWvuAg



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Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by mothra on Sep 20th, 2025 at 8:52am

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 8:43am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:22am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:09am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:39am:
The "what is a woman" question has been asked by stupid men ever since we first wanted to vote. It's not new. You guys can never think of anything new.

And the answer is, as it was then, whatever she wants to be.

And it's not lost on us that you don;t ask with equal zeal "what is a man".


You accuse the right of being science deniers then when it comes to what is a woman you make it up as you go along?

Then you try to deflect when you can't answer the question.


Do you want a biological definition, a legal one, or a social one? Because each discipline answers that question differently.

A woman is an adult human who identifies and lives as female. Biologically, women are typically defined by reproductive traits, but in society and law, we recognise gender as more than just biology.


In the context of Mothra saying the left are science deniers what does science say the definition of a woman is according to Biology?

It was the left who changed the definition of a woman which shows they are the science deniers.

As Mothra said you ignore science and make it up as you go along.

It shows the stupidity and hypocrisy of the left accusing the right of being science deniers when they're the ones denying science.

What does medicine which Mothra also claims the right ignore say about this fetish men with dicks have with dressing up as a woman and pretending to be one?
https://www.google.com/search?q=autogynephilia+treatment&sca_esv=465b246665d554e3&source=hp&ei=MNzNaPW7IsqO4-EP35iN-AE&iflsig=AOw8s4IAAAAAaM3qQEqz9so9O_IulU6g-qYzlmWfSwvr&oq=autogy&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IgZhdXRvZ3kqAggCMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDILEC4YgAQYxwEYrwEyBRAAGIAEMgcQABiABBgKMgUQABiABDILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwEyBRAAGIAESKs6UABYpBNwAHgAkAEAmAGPBqABohWqAQsyLTIuMS4xLjEuMbgBAcgBAPgBAZgCBqACohbCAgsQLhiABBixAxiDAcICERAuGIAEGLEDGNEDGIMBGMcBwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAg4QLhiABBixAxjRAxjHAcICDhAuGIAEGLEDGIMBGIoFwgIIEC4YgAQYsQPCAhYQLhiABBixAxjRAxiDARjHARiKBRgKwgILEAAYgAQYkgMYigXCAhEQLhiABBixAxiDARjHARivAcICDhAuGIAEGMcBGI4FGK8BmAMAkgcLMi0xLjIuMS4xLjGgB9JCsgcLMi0xLjIuMS4xLjG4B6IWwgcFMy00LjLIB2s&sclient=gws-wiz&sei=PtzNaNy1FLyb4-EP6aWvuAg


Oh you poor little biscuit, how confused you must be by this time and space.

Listen: sex and gender are two different and distinct thing, 'k? While sex is determined by nature, gender is a social construct. We know this because gender roles evolve and change over time and according to differing societies. Did you know some societies have more than two genders?

Now do try not to react violently to this but gender occurs on a spectrum with one end (in our society) being female and the other end being male. People fall in all the places of this spectrum and what we have come to understand is that that doesn't necessarily align with the sex theywere born with.

It's honestly not a big deal and has absolutely always been with us.

Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 20th, 2025 at 9:49am

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 8:43am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:22am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 1:09am:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:39am:
The "what is a woman" question has been asked by stupid men ever since we first wanted to vote. It's not new. You guys can never think of anything new.

And the answer is, as it was then, whatever she wants to be.

And it's not lost on us that you don;t ask with equal zeal "what is a man".


You accuse the right of being science deniers then when it comes to what is a woman you make it up as you go along?

Then you try to deflect when you can't answer the question.


Do you want a biological definition, a legal one, or a social one? Because each discipline answers that question differently.

A woman is an adult human who identifies and lives as female. Biologically, women are typically defined by reproductive traits, but in society and law, we recognise gender as more than just biology.


In the context of Mothra saying the left are science deniers what does science say the definition of a woman is according to Biology?

It was the left who changed the definition of a woman which shows they are the science deniers.

As Mothra said you ignore science and make it up as you go along.

It shows the stupidity and hypocrisy of the left accusing the right of being science deniers when they're the ones denying science.

What does medicine which Mothra also claims the right ignore say about this fetish men with dicks have with dressing up as a woman and pretending to be one?
https://www.google.com/search?q=autogynephilia+treatment&sca_esv=465b246665d554e3&source=hp&ei=MNzNaPW7IsqO4-EP35iN-AE&iflsig=AOw8s4IAAAAAaM3qQEqz9so9O_IulU6g-qYzlmWfSwvr&oq=autogy&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IgZhdXRvZ3kqAggCMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDILEC4YgAQYxwEYrwEyBRAAGIAEMgcQABiABBgKMgUQABiABDILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwEyBRAAGIAESKs6UABYpBNwAHgAkAEAmAGPBqABohWqAQsyLTIuMS4xLjEuMbgBAcgBAPgBAZgCBqACohbCAgsQLhiABBixAxiDAcICERAuGIAEGLEDGNEDGIMBGMcBwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAg4QLhiABBixAxjRAxjHAcICDhAuGIAEGLEDGIMBGIoFwgIIEC4YgAQYsQPCAhYQLhiABBixAxjRAxiDARjHARiKBRgKwgILEAAYgAQYkgMYigXCAhEQLhiABBixAxiDARjHARivAcICDhAuGIAEGMcBGI4FGK8BmAMAkgcLMi0xLjIuMS4xLjGgB9JCsgcLMi0xLjIuMS4xLjG4B6IWwgcFMy00LjLIB2s&sclient=gws-wiz&sei=PtzNaNy1FLyb4-EP6aWvuAg


Ah oh, someone didn't get the response they were expecting in the script so they can't reply with the next part, now they're stuck in a loop reposting it to try again.

You need an exit to the loop friend,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0xgjUhEG3U

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Bobby. on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:01pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 9:49am:
Ah oh, someone didn't get the response they were expecting in the script so they can't reply with the next part, now they're stuck in a loop reposting it to try again.

You need an exit to the loop friend,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0xgjUhEG3U



God's truth -
that Sheldon is such a poofter.    :o


Not that .....

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Carl D on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 12:01pm:
God's truth -
that Sheldon is such a poofter.    :o


Not that .....


Oh, come on, Bobby.

If you've ever watched The Big Bang Theory you would know that isn't true.

In that particular episode, Sheldon is trying to befriend Barry Kripke so he (Sheldon) can get some time on the Open Science Grid Computer which he believes Kripke organizes the official schedule for. But, it turns out he doesn't and Sheldon was just wasting his time.

The Friendship Algorithm

:)

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:17pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.


The verifiable facts showed he is leftist poofter with a tranny boyfriend.

The fact he is a poofter with a tranny boyfriend rules out any chance of him being a groyper



Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Gordon on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:26pm
Grok

Online Activity and Associations: Robinson spent significant time on Discord and other platforms, where he reportedly engaged with leftist content. Friends confirmed he was "pretty left on everything" and "the only member of his family that was really leftist," with views growing more extreme during his sophomore year. Some reports and social media discussions link him to Antifa-inspired rhetoric (e.g., bullet engravings like "Hey fascist!" and references to "Bella Ciao," an Antifa-associated song) and groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) or "Armed Queers" (a communist-leaning queer activist network). However, no direct ties to organized Antifa cells have been confirmed by law enforcement.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:41pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:17pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.


The verifiable facts showed he is leftist poofter with a tranny boyfriend.

The fact he is a poofter with a tranny boyfriend rules out any chance of him being a groyper


They love femboys...

That's how bizarre the far far right are.

It's so contradictory.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Dnarever on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:41pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:17pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:40am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 11:00am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 15th, 2025 at 7:48am:
White Christian conservative and groyper groupie


Nah - he's a poof and a tranny luvvah.


The verifiable facts, however, point squarely to him being a white, Christian, conservative and, by all appearances, a Groyper acolyte.

We'll see how that holds up.


The verifiable facts showed he is leftist poofter with a tranny boyfriend.

The fact he is a poofter with a tranny boyfriend rules out any chance of him being a groyper



Quote:
The verifiable facts showed he is leftist..........


Have not yet seen anything that supports this bit. In fact almost the opposite.

Hadn't voted in recent elections - confirmed

Isn't registered to either party - confirmed.

Parents nut bag MAGA republicans - confirmed.

Grew up with ultra right indoctrination - confirmed.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by MeisterEckhart on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:41pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:26pm:
Grok

Online Activity and Associations: Robinson spent significant time on Discord and other platforms, where he reportedly engaged with leftist content. Friends confirmed he was "pretty left on everything" and "the only member of his family that was really leftist," with views growing more extreme during his sophomore year. Some reports and social media discussions link him to Antifa-inspired rhetoric (e.g., bullet engravings like "Hey fascist!" and references to "Bella Ciao," an Antifa-associated song) and groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) or "Armed Queers" (a communist-leaning queer activist network). However, no direct ties to organized Antifa cells have been confirmed by law enforcement.

Some reports and social media discussions, eh!

Nothing like weasel words...

He'll end up being like all the other white trash that America breeds like flies and who go on to assassinate or maim high-profile politicians and personalities - a killer nerd, misfit and loser with a gun.

John F Kennedy - Lee Harvey Oswald
Martin Luther King - James Earl Ray
Robert F Kennedy - Sirhan Sirhan
George Wallace - Arthur Herman Bremer
Ronald Reagan - John Warnock Hinckley
John Lennon - Mark David Chapman
Donald Trump - Thomas Matthew Crooks
Charlie Kirk - Tyler Robinson (alleged)

Yanks just can't have it that mosquitoes kill their god-kings.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:41pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:26pm:
Grok

Online Activity and Associations: Robinson spent significant time on Discord and other platforms, where he reportedly engaged with leftist content. Friends confirmed he was "pretty left on everything" and "the only member of his family that was really leftist," with views growing more extreme during his sophomore year. Some reports and social media discussions link him to Antifa-inspired rhetoric (e.g., bullet engravings like "Hey fascist!" and references to "Bella Ciao," an Antifa-associated song) and groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) or "Armed Queers" (a communist-leaning queer activist network). However, no direct ties to organized Antifa cells have been confirmed by law enforcement.


So it wasn't University?

The goalposts change again.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Gordon on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:45pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:41pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:26pm:
Grok

Online Activity and Associations: Robinson spent significant time on Discord and other platforms, where he reportedly engaged with leftist content. Friends confirmed he was "pretty left on everything" and "the only member of his family that was really leftist," with views growing more extreme during his sophomore year. Some reports and social media discussions link him to Antifa-inspired rhetoric (e.g., bullet engravings like "Hey fascist!" and references to "Bella Ciao," an Antifa-associated song) and groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) or "Armed Queers" (a communist-leaning queer activist network). However, no direct ties to organized Antifa cells have been confirmed by law enforcement.


So it wasn't University?

The goalposts change again.


Serious question, are you a tranny?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 20th, 2025 at 8:40pm

Just remember this, folks.

When that white, Christian, Australian terrorist murdered 51 Muslims in Christchurch, Gordon said that he should have killed more.

That's the kind of violent, radical extremist we're dealing with here.

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Labor majority government on Sep 20th, 2025 at 8:48pm
Is Gordon still down Bondi threatening brown people with his kettle balls ?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 20th, 2025 at 8:50pm

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 8:48pm:
Is Gordon still down Bondi threatening brown people with his kettle balls ?


;D

Yes.

In the North Bondi public toilet block.

The locals know him as 'Gummy Gordy'.


Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Labor majority government on Sep 20th, 2025 at 8:52pm
Reckon Gordon is about 5 ft 2 , long hair and very vocal till he gets challenged ...

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 20th, 2025 at 8:55pm

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 8:52pm:
Reckon Gordon is about 5 ft 2 , long hair and very vocal till he gets challenged ...



Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Setanta on Sep 20th, 2025 at 9:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 8:55pm:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 8:52pm:
Reckon Gordon is about 5 ft 2 , long hair and very vocal till he gets challenged ...




Rod Stewart after a bender with groupies?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 20th, 2025 at 9:57pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:45pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:41pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:26pm:
Grok

Online Activity and Associations: Robinson spent significant time on Discord and other platforms, where he reportedly engaged with leftist content. Friends confirmed he was "pretty left on everything" and "the only member of his family that was really leftist," with views growing more extreme during his sophomore year. Some reports and social media discussions link him to Antifa-inspired rhetoric (e.g., bullet engravings like "Hey fascist!" and references to "Bella Ciao," an Antifa-associated song) and groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) or "Armed Queers" (a communist-leaning queer activist network). However, no direct ties to organized Antifa cells have been confirmed by law enforcement.


So it wasn't University?

The goalposts change again.


Serious question, are you a tranny?


That's not the insult you think it is, but no dear.

Again, you're meant to be the arbiter of hate speech when you're using another slur?

Title: Re: Shooter identified
Post by Frank on Sep 21st, 2025 at 1:48am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:41pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 20th, 2025 at 7:26pm:
Grok

Online Activity and Associations: Robinson spent significant time on Discord and other platforms, where he reportedly engaged with leftist content. Friends confirmed he was "pretty left on everything" and "the only member of his family that was really leftist," with views growing more extreme during his sophomore year. Some reports and social media discussions link him to Antifa-inspired rhetoric (e.g., bullet engravings like "Hey fascist!" and references to "Bella Ciao," an Antifa-associated song) and groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) or "Armed Queers" (a communist-leaning queer activist network). However, no direct ties to organized Antifa cells have been confirmed by law enforcement.


So it wasn't University?

The goalposts change again.


Sophomore - second year at college.

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