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Message started by Labor majority government on Sep 6th, 2025 at 12:40am

Title: Our identity
Post by Labor majority government on Sep 6th, 2025 at 12:40am
As it stands , girt by sea and flying an English flag?.discuss ...ting
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Title: Re: Our identity
Post by aquascoot on Sep 6th, 2025 at 6:18am

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 6th, 2025 at 12:40am:
As it stands , girt by sea and flying an English flag?.discuss ...ting
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We could be a nation of movers shakers risk takers and innovators.

Like Singapore .

The government of Singapore does the basics and then let's the people flourish and create..

Unfortunately Ozzie's are a bit lazy scared and entitled.

And we elect leaders who vibe with that.

So we have a very big government

We tend to say " govern me harder daddy" as if we were in a weird S and M reality

And we get really butthurt when Canberra doesn't solve all our problems

We behave like frightened infants.

Could you imagine the people of modern Australia storming out of the trenches of flanders to bravely attack the hun

They would want penalty rates if it was after hours
The first scratch on barbed wire and they would fill in a compo claim
Half would be gunned down as they stood to attention for the welcome to country pre amble.
And they would ask the hun what his pronouns were.


Fat frightened entitled , glazed over eyes , living in a derp state. Numbing their life with alcohol and KFC...that's most Australians.


Ask them what their big dream for themselves is and it's probably to retire ASAP  and do nothing, contribute nothing and just take..


Woeful failure.

Thank God for the farmers , miners, some of the trades and the hard working Chinese and Indian migrants who put their head down and don't behave like punk ass pussies

Title: Re: Our identity
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 6th, 2025 at 8:48am
This is to become mandatory for female Senators and MPs under the New Government...and the confused lads could fit well in one, too...
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Title: Re: Our identity
Post by Belgarion on Sep 6th, 2025 at 8:51am

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 6th, 2025 at 12:40am:
As it stands , girt by sea and flying an English flag?.discuss ...ting
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The ignorance is strong in this one.....The Union Flag is not an English flag, but the flag of the United Kingdom.  ::)

Title: Re: Our identity
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 9th, 2025 at 12:49pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6th, 2025 at 6:18am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 6th, 2025 at 12:40am:
As it stands , girt by sea and flying an English flag?.discuss ...ting
..



We could be a nation of movers shakers risk takers and innovators.

Like Singapore .

The government of Singapore does the basics and then let's the people flourish and create..

Unfortunately Ozzie's are a bit lazy scared and entitled.

And we elect leaders who vibe with that.

So we have a very big government

We tend to say " govern me harder daddy" as if we were in a weird S and M reality

And we get really butthurt when Canberra doesn't solve all our problems

We behave like frightened infants.

Could you imagine the people of modern Australia storming out of the trenches of flanders to bravely attack the hun

They would want penalty rates if it was after hours
The first scratch on barbed wire and they would fill in a compo claim
Half would be gunned down as they stood to attention for the welcome to country pre amble.
And they would ask the hun what his pronouns were.


Fat frightened entitled , glazed over eyes , living in a derp state. Numbing their life with alcohol and KFC...that's most Australians.


Ask them what their big dream for themselves is and it's probably to retire ASAP  and do nothing, contribute nothing and just take..


Woeful failure.

Thank God for the farmers , miners, some of the trades and the hard working Chinese and Indian migrants who put their head down and don't behave like punk ass pussies


Have you ever even set foot in Singapore?

It bears no resemblance to the fantasy you've just painted. Singapore doesn't "do the basics and let people flourish", it has one of the most interventionist governments in the developed world.

Roughly 80% of Singaporeans live in government-built HDB flats. The state not only subsidises and manages supply, it uses housing policy for social engineering, right down to ethnic quotas in each block to prevent enclaves. That's not minimal government, that's massive government involvement in people's lives.

The education system is equally hands-on. The government designs the curriculum, funds schools, pushes STEM and bilingualism, and uses scholarships and bonds to channel talent into sectors it deems essential. Students are streamed from an early age, it's as centralised and directive as you'll find in any developed country.

Economically, Singapore is the antithesis of "small government". Temasek and GIC, both state-owned, hold controlling stakes in airlines, banks, telcos, energy and logistics. The government doesn't just regulate, it is a direct participant in the economy, and its industrial policy is deliberate, long-term, and strategic.

And then there's social policy. From mandatory savings in the CPF, to restrictions on car ownership, to fines for everything from littering to chewing gum, the government actively shapes citizen behaviour at a micro level.

So yes, we could learn a lot from Singapore, but not in the way you imagine. What makes Singapore work isn't some laissez-faire fantasy, it's a government that plans, directs, and intervenes in ways that would make most Australians cringe.

Completely the opposite of the "minimal government" narrative you're pushing.

It works for them, and many would argue that such control is necessary when nearly six million people are packed into a space smaller than the Gold Coast, almost ten times the population in half the area.

Singapore is hard to compare to anywhere else in the world. If you're going to use it as an example, at least get the details right and don't just cherry-pick the one fact that suits your argument.

And yes, most people who push this line love to tout the tax system while conveniently ignoring the heavy government involvement in housing, education, the economy, and social policy that actually underpins their success.

Title: Re: Our identity
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2025 at 1:34pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6th, 2025 at 6:18am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 6th, 2025 at 12:40am:
As it stands , girt by sea and flying an English flag?.discuss ...ting
..



We could be a nation of movers shakers risk takers and innovators.

Like Singapore .



Singapore is one of the most boring places on the planet.

Moreover, the government is certainly not one to be envied.

Australia is a much, much better place to live.


Title: Re: Our identity
Post by ProudKangaroo on Sep 9th, 2025 at 1:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2025 at 1:34pm:
Singapore is one of the most boring places on the planet.

Moreover, the government is certainly not one to be envied.

Australia is a much, much better place to live.


Australia may be a better place to live in broad strokes, but there's no denying that Singapore executes certain things far more effectively than we ever do. Much of it can't simply be copied, our landmass and population are on an entirely different scale, but the sense of safety I felt walking the streets there, compared to anywhere in Australia, was unprecedented.

They've managed to avoid the rigid racial enclaves we struggle with and push a form of true multiculturalism, something we could genuinely learn from. Their obsession with food culture, making everything walkable, and backing it with a public transport system that actually works is another area where we lag, even if geography and density make it harder to replicate.

And yet, for a country with no natural resources to speak of, their achievements are remarkable. Meanwhile, we almost take pride, it seems, in squandering ours, handing them away practically for free and getting next to nothing in return. Perhaps that, too, is a core part of who we are, a part of our identity.

Title: Re: Our identity
Post by freediver on Sep 9th, 2025 at 1:50pm
Is Labor trying to line us up for another pointless referendum? What will it be this time?

Title: Re: Our identity
Post by Dnarever on Sep 9th, 2025 at 5:31pm
Australians have zero issue with Identity. Its a 100% bogus argument.

Title: Re: Our identity
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Sep 9th, 2025 at 6:59pm
Our WHAT?


Australians struggle without a choice,
Our land conquered by sea,
With golden 'chutes and wealth for mates
All cheating rats are free

Our land abounds in massive grift
Integrity is rare
In history's page
They'll ask in rage
Advanced Australia Where?

Title: Re: Our identity
Post by Postmodern Trendoid III on Sep 9th, 2025 at 7:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2025 at 1:34pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6th, 2025 at 6:18am:

Labor majority government wrote on Sep 6th, 2025 at 12:40am:
As it stands , girt by sea and flying an English flag?.discuss ...ting
..



We could be a nation of movers shakers risk takers and innovators.

Like Singapore .



Singapore is one of the most boring places on the planet.

Moreover, the government is certainly not one to be envied.

Australia is a much, much better place to live.


no poofs or drugos there for you?

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