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Message started by Sir Eoin O Fada on Aug 18th, 2025 at 12:09pm

Title: From a media release by pauline Hanson,
Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Aug 18th, 2025 at 12:09pm
‘’ 14 August 2025 Revelations that 1258 indigenous corporations receiving taxpayer funding have failed to comply with basic reporting requirements have led to renewed calls for a comprehensive
audit of the industry. One Nation leader Senator Pauline Hanson said complete transparency and accountability was paramount to ensure Australian taxpayers received value for money with the indigenous
grants they funded. "The Office of the Registrar of Indigenous Corporations (ORIC) has revealed 1258
indigenous corporations have not lodged required reports for the 2023-24 financial year,"
Senator Hanson said.’’ , , , ‘’



Title: Re: From a media release by pauline Hanson,
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Aug 18th, 2025 at 4:03pm
Looks like someone is going to have to control that money in a paternalistic way .. if they can't be trusted to handle money granted to them free, then the public trustee or similar will have to manage it for them.

Title: Re: From a media release by pauline Hanson,
Post by thegreatdivide on Aug 18th, 2025 at 4:23pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 12:09pm:
‘’ 14 August 2025 Revelations that 1258 indigenous corporations receiving taxpayer funding have failed to comply with basic reporting requirements have led to renewed calls for a comprehensive
audit of the industry. One Nation leader Senator Pauline Hanson said complete transparency and accountability was paramount to ensure Australian taxpayers received value for money with the indigenous
grants they funded. "The Office of the Registrar of Indigenous Corporations (ORIC) has revealed 1258
indigenous corporations have not lodged required reports for the 2023-24 financial year,"
Senator Hanson said.’’ , , , ‘’


At least Pauline's correct in this instance.

Government should and can eradicate poverty, not by funding the poverty industry, but by guaranteeing housing and education for everyone, as basic human rights. 

[Self defence is a right?

No,  it's an instinct naturally existing in all individuals. 

Rights - unlike instincts -  don't exist in nature's food-chain,
and need to be delineated in law].



Title: Re: From a media release by pauline Hanson,
Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Aug 18th, 2025 at 5:45pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 4:23pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 12:09pm:
‘’ 14 August 2025 Revelations that 1258 indigenous corporations receiving taxpayer funding have failed to comply with basic reporting requirements have led to renewed calls for a comprehensive
audit of the industry. One Nation leader Senator Pauline Hanson said complete transparency and accountability was paramount to ensure Australian taxpayers received value for money with the indigenous
grants they funded. "The Office of the Registrar of Indigenous Corporations (ORIC) has revealed 1258
indigenous corporations have not lodged required reports for the 2023-24 financial year,"
Senator Hanson said.’’ , , , ‘’


At least Pauline's correct in this instance.

Government should and can eradicate poverty, not by funding the poverty industry, but by guaranteeing housing and education for everyone, as basic human rights. 

[Self defence is a right?

No,  it's an instinct naturally existing in all individuals. 

Rights - unlike instincts -  don't exist in nature's food-chain,
and need to be delineated in law].

Self defence is a right, recognised and delineated at law,
See: https://www.ag.gov.au/crime/publications/commonwealth-criminal-code-guide-practitioners-draft/part-23-circumstances-which-there-no-criminal-responsibility/division-10-circumstances-involving-external-factors/104-self-defence
Not only in Australia but in most jurisdictions.

Title: Re: From a media release by pauline Hanson,
Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Aug 18th, 2025 at 5:54pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 5:45pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 4:23pm:
[quote author=Eugene link=1755482992/0#0 date=1755482992]‘’ 14 August 2025 Revelations that 1258 indigenous corporations receiving taxpayer funding have failed to comply with basic reporting requirements have led to renewed calls for a comprehensive
audit of the industry. One Nation leader Senator Pauline Hanson said complete transparency and accountability was paramount to ensure Australian taxpayers received value for money with the indigenous
grants they funded. "The Office of the Registrar of Indigenous Corporations (ORIC) has revealed 1258
indigenous corporations have not lodged required reports for the 2023-24 financial year,"
Senator Hanson said.’’ , , , ‘’


At least Pauline's correct in this instance.

Government should and can eradicate poverty, not by funding the poverty industry, but by guaranteeing housing and education for everyone, as basic human rights. 

[Self defence is a right?

No,  it's an instinct naturally existing in all individuals. 

Rights - unlike instincts -  don't exist in nature's food-chain,
and need to be delineated in law].

Self defence is a right, recognised and delineated at law,
See: https://www.ag.gov.au/crime/publications/commonwealth-criminal-code-guide-practitioners-draft/part-23-circumstances-which-there-no-criminal-responsibility/division-10-circumstances-involving-external-factors/104-self-defence
Not only in Australia but in most jurisdictions.

PS. Not only in human individuals, try kicking a bull ants nest.

Title: Re: From a media release by pauline Hanson,
Post by Gnads on Aug 18th, 2025 at 6:11pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 4:03pm:
Looks like someone is going to have to control that money in a paternalistic way .. if they can't be trusted to handle money granted to them free, then the public trustee or similar will have to manage it for them.


Bwyan?  ;D ;D

Trouble is Grapps once that money is in their bank accounts - they believe they somehow earned it & it is theirs - "always was always will be" our munny ey.  ;D

Title: Re: From a media release by pauline Hanson,
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Aug 18th, 2025 at 8:24pm

Gnads wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 6:11pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 4:03pm:
Looks like someone is going to have to control that money in a paternalistic way .. if they can't be trusted to handle money granted to them free, then the public trustee or similar will have to manage it for them.


Bwyan?  ;D ;D

Trouble is Grapps once that money is in their bank accounts - they believe they somehow earned it & it is theirs - "always was always will be" our munny ey.  ;D


.. and then they pay their family and mates 'salaries' and give them cars to 'do the work' instead of getting the work done that the money was intended for.  Just like 'royalties' - the Big Silverback hands out hefty bits to family and mates and the people at the bottom get enough for one big pardy, myte... and that's it for another year or so while the Silverback builds a mansion and runs private choppers and has the best cars and such.

P.S. it's the 'rent' they never earned or deserved and Albo and his type will only make it worse for everyone unless we take back the farm.

It has to be stopped - nothing will ever improve for them while ever those types handle the money.

Title: Re: From a media release by pauline Hanson,
Post by thegreatdivide on Aug 19th, 2025 at 8:11am

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 5:45pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 4:23pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 12:09pm:
‘’ 14 August 2025 Revelations that 1258 indigenous corporations receiving taxpayer funding have failed to comply with basic reporting requirements have led to renewed calls for a comprehensive
audit of the industry. One Nation leader Senator Pauline Hanson said complete transparency and accountability was paramount to ensure Australian taxpayers received value for money with the indigenous
grants they funded. "The Office of the Registrar of Indigenous Corporations (ORIC) has revealed 1258
indigenous corporations have not lodged required reports for the 2023-24 financial year,"
Senator Hanson said.’’ , , , ‘’


At least Pauline's correct in this instance.

Government should and can eradicate poverty, not by funding the poverty industry, but by guaranteeing housing and education for everyone, as basic human rights. 

[Self defence is a right?

No,  it's an instinct naturally existing in all individuals. 

Rights - unlike instincts -  don't exist in nature's food-chain,
and need to be delineated in law].

Self defence is a right, recognised and delineated at law,
See: https://www.ag.gov.au/crime/publications/commonwealth-criminal-code-guide-practitioners-draft/part-23-circumstances-which-there-no-criminal-responsibility/division-10-circumstances-involving-external-factors/104-self-defence
Not only in Australia but in most jurisdictions.


So---the apparent need to define what is an instinct as a 'right', arises because - as with all postulated individual 'rights', there is a competing interest  between the 'right' as perceived by each individual; which is why the 'right' to self-defence is also limited in law by considerations of 'proportionality'. 




Title: Re: From a media release by pauline Hanson,
Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Aug 19th, 2025 at 12:08pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 19th, 2025 at 8:11am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 5:45pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 4:23pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Aug 18th, 2025 at 12:09pm:
‘’ 14 August 2025 Revelations that 1258 indigenous corporations receiving taxpayer funding have failed to comply with basic reporting requirements have led to renewed calls for a comprehensive
audit of the industry. One Nation leader Senator Pauline Hanson said complete transparency and accountability was paramount to ensure Australian taxpayers received value for money with the indigenous
grants they funded. "The Office of the Registrar of Indigenous Corporations (ORIC) has revealed 1258
indigenous corporations have not lodged required reports for the 2023-24 financial year,"
Senator Hanson said.’’ , , , ‘’


At least Pauline's correct in this instance.

Government should and can eradicate poverty, not by funding the poverty industry, but by guaranteeing housing and education for everyone, as basic human rights. 

[Self defence is a right?

No,  it's an instinct naturally existing in all individuals. 

Rights - unlike instincts -  don't exist in nature's food-chain,
and need to be delineated in law].

Self defence is a right, recognised and delineated at law,
See: https://www.ag.gov.au/crime/publications/commonwealth-criminal-code-guide-practitioners-draft/part-23-circumstances-which-there-no-criminal-responsibility/division-10-circumstances-involving-external-factors/104-self-defence
Not only in Australia but in most jurisdictions.


So---the apparent need to define what is an instinct as a 'right', arises because - as with all postulated individual 'rights', there is a competing interest  between the 'right' as perceived by each individual; which is why the 'right' to self-defence is also limited in law by considerations of 'proportionality'. 

So you now recognise that there is a right to self defence, even for bullants.

Title: Re: From a media release by pauline Hanson,
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Aug 20th, 2025 at 2:35pm
You do understand that Rights are a development of fundamental human nature, don't you?

EVERY organism on this planet has the inherent right to self-defence ... and you want the Aliens to reject that?  After all those aeons of defending themselves in the Intergalactic Wars from other aliens, until crash-landing on Earth after a fight in the space between Earth and Moon - which is why there are four distinct 'racial' groups worldwide?  The damaged ships from all four sides crashed here....

The slant-eyes from Asia
the long white ones from Europe etc
the black ones from Africa
the kokonuts from Pacifica

Title: Re: From a media release by pauline Hanson,
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 20th, 2025 at 6:27pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 20th, 2025 at 2:35pm:
You do understand that Rights are a development of fundamental human nature, don't you?

EVERY organism on this planet has the inherent right to self-defence ... and you want the Aliens to reject that?  After all those aeons of defending themselves in the Intergalactic Wars from other aliens, until crash-landing on Earth after a fight in the space between Earth and Moon - which is why there are four distinct 'racial' groups worldwide?  The damaged ships from all four sides crashed here....

The slant-eyes from Asia
the long white ones from Europe etc
the black ones from Africa
the kokonuts from Pacifica


Your fantasies are getting the better of you, Grappler.  The human genome project proves the humanity evolved on Earth.  All humans are related, all draw from the common stock, we are all the same genetically, we are all related.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: From a media release by pauline Hanson,
Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Aug 20th, 2025 at 7:22pm
And there is only one race of humans.
Some are more coloured than others and some sub groups should never breed together.
The most coloured are the whites, then progressing through to the relatively few who are truly black and consequently are not coloured at all.

Title: Re: From a media release by pauline Hanson,
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Aug 20th, 2025 at 7:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 20th, 2025 at 6:27pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 20th, 2025 at 2:35pm:
You do understand that Rights are a development of fundamental human nature, don't you?

EVERY organism on this planet has the inherent right to self-defence ... and you want the Aliens to reject that?  After all those aeons of defending themselves in the Intergalactic Wars from other aliens, until crash-landing on Earth after a fight in the space between Earth and Moon - which is why there are four distinct 'racial' groups worldwide?  The damaged ships from all four sides crashed here....

The slant-eyes from Asia
the long white ones from Europe etc
the black ones from Africa
the kokonuts from Pacifica


Your fantasies are getting the better of you, Grappler.  The human genome project proves the humanity evolved on Earth.  All humans are related, all draw from the common stock, we are all the same genetically, we are all related.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)



Maybe so, Baas, but the reality is that genetic discrepancies tend to show four major lines - ergo - 'evolving' on earth may be nothing more than 'evolving' from a transplanted species... it's a little difficult to accept that 'the black man' from Africa developed somehow into the very different in appearance 'European', or the very different 'Asiatic' ... or the very different 'Pacific Kokonut'.... when apparently there are very clear lines of migration Out Of Africa ... and NONE get as far as Oceania, and I doubt they'd head north given the cold etc... Out Of Africa migrated East and West - mostly East - and some even ended up here as Aborigines, who are NOT Asiatics, Europeans or Oceanians.

Is all that 'fantasy'?

I don't adhere to any concept of how humanity evolved/developed here on Earth .. but same as 'creation' theories - it could have occurred in any of a number of ways or even in a number of ways.  The differences between large groups tend to indicate separate (but equal) development.... is it actually possible that is from the same source?  And if not - how DID the different strands develop?

They had a farm in Africa?  ALL of them?


Note:-  same as when observing diagnosis of a patient - I form a mental image of what is going on inside that person's body as I talk and listen... I 'see' what is occurring in my mind's eye - which is an attribute that cannot be installed by rote learning.... and is a sign of an outstanding doctor as my own GP says I should be ...... who 'sees' more than his 'science' can tell him .... beware the Ides Of Science.... pure 'knowledge' can be very deceiving.

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