check it out. :(

Just call someone a terrorist and it's a license to kill if you are an Israeli and they never have to provide any valid evidence to back up their murders :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYX01EqWzFM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjB61zk_kbY

Strange UFOs seen over Coober Pedy during a party underground.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/amid-global-outcry-idf-says-al-jazeera-reporter-it-killed-was-receiving-hamas-salary/


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An Israeli military spokesperson asserted on Monday that the prominent Al Jazeera journalist it killed a day earlier was an active Hamas member who received a salary from the terror group, as the international outcry mounted over the Gaza City strike that also took the lives of five other reporters. “Prior to the strike, we obtained current intelligence indicating that [Anas] al-Sharif was an active Hamas military wing operative at the time of his elimination. In addition, he received a salary from the Hamas terror group and terrorist supporters, Al-Jazeera, at the same time,” IDF international spokesman Lt. Col. Nadav Shoshani said on X. The IDF said that Sharif was “the head of a Hamas terrorist cell and advanced rocket attacks on Israeli civilians and IDF troops. “Intelligence and documents from Gaza, including rosters, terrorist training lists and salary records, prove he was a Hamas operative integrated into Al Jazeera,” it said, alongside a screenshot of relevant documents. The documents, published by the IDF in October, showed that Sharif joined Hamas’s military wing on December 3, 2013, where he served as a commander of a rocket-launching squad in northern Gaza. He was certified as the team commander on January 1, 2019, according to the documents. The documents also listed Sharif’s military ID number as 305342. On April 7, 2017, Sharif was wounded in his eye and suffered hearing loss during Hamas training, though he continued to remain in the organization on a $200 a month salary, according to a 2023 document published by the military. A separate, undated document showed that Sharif’s name was on the internal phone registry of the elite Nukhba Force company in Hamas’s East Jabalia Battalion. A codename for Sharif is also listed in the directory. In his Monday post, Shoshani wrote that the documents the army published in October are “only a small, declassified portion of our intelligence on al-Sharif leading up to the strike.”

So the guy continued to report from Gaza despite being openly identified by the IDF as an active member of a terrorist organisation. Why would Al Jazeera deliberately put their journalists in such extreme danger?

Nail, John and Greg, I would also be interested in how this fits in with your conspiracy theory that Israel is preventing news getting out of the Gaza strip by not allowing journalists in.

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 8:00am:

So the guy continued to report from Gaza despite being openly identified by the IDF as an active member of a terrorist organisation. Why would Al Jazeera deliberately put their journalists in such extreme danger? Nail, John and Greg, I would also be interested in how this fits in with your conspiracy theory that Israel is preventing news getting out of the Gaza strip by not allowing journalists in.

The biggest terrorist is the war criminal running Israel :(

Just let the international journos in and stop targeting journalists just so the IDF can hide their crimes. Problem solved ;)

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 9:54am:

freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 8:00am: So the guy continued to report from Gaza despite being openly identified by the IDF as an active member of a terrorist organisation. Why would Al Jazeera deliberately put their journalists in such extreme danger? Nail, John and Greg, I would also be interested in how this fits in with your conspiracy theory that Israel is preventing news getting out of the Gaza strip by not allowing journalists in. The biggest terrorist is the war criminal running Israel :( Just let the international journos in and stop targeting journalists. Problem solved ;)

This sounds like a fairly broad conspiracy. If the Israeli government is the biggest terrorist, can you explain why so many countries have declared Hamas a terrorist organisation, but not Israel?

Also, do you think that Al Jazeera did the right thing in sending Anas al-Sharif into Gaza, accompanied by 5 other journalists who were also killed, after Israel openly declared their belief that he was a member of a terrorist organisation nearly a year ago?

Other than a large number of dead journalists, what do you think would happen if more journalists were allowed in?

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 10:04am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 9:54am: freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 8:00am: So the guy continued to report from Gaza despite being openly identified by the IDF as an active member of a terrorist organisation. Why would Al Jazeera deliberately put their journalists in such extreme danger? Nail, John and Greg, I would also be interested in how this fits in with your conspiracy theory that Israel is preventing news getting out of the Gaza strip by not allowing journalists in. The biggest terrorist is the war criminal running Israel :( Just let the international journos in and stop targeting journalists. Problem solved ;) This sounds like a fairly broad conspiracy. If the Israeli government is the biggest terrorist, can you explain why so many countries have declared Hamas a terrorist organisation, but not Israel? Also, do you think that Al Jazeera did the right thing in sending Anas al-Sharif into Gaza, accompanied by 5 other journalists who were also killed, after Israel openly declared their belief that he was a member of a terrorist organisation nearly a year ago? Other than a large number of dead journalists, what do you think would happen if more journalists were allowed in?

https://www.icc-cpi.int/defendant/netanyahu


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Netanyahu About Defendant Mr Benjamin Netanyahu, born on 21 October 1949, Prime Minister of Israel at the time of the relevant conduct. Arrest warrant issued on 21 November 2024 Accused LastName Netanyahu Accused FirstName Benjamin Charges Allegedly responsible for the war crimes of starvation as a method of warfare and of intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population; and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts from at least 8 October 2023 until at least 20 May 2024.

Congratulations on trying to find evidence to back up your claim Nail. Would you mind highlighting the bit where it accuses him, or the state of Israel, or terrorism?

Would you say you "essentially agree" with the claim that Israel is a terrorist organisation, even if you don't "actually agree" with it?

Also, do you think that Al Jazeera did the right thing in sending Anas al-Sharif into Gaza, accompanied by 5 other journalists who were also killed, after Israel openly declared their belief that he was a member of a terrorist organisation nearly a year ago?

Other than a large number of dead journalists, what do you think would happen if more journalists were allowed in?

Also, can you explain how they managed to get this news out to the world even though, according to you, the Israelis would prevent such news from escaping?


Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 8:03pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:56pm: Upload it John. Upload it with what ? IDF will be jamming or disabling the internet services the same way it won't allow journalists in. Also no electricity to charge phones.

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 8:00am:

Nail, John and Greg, I would also be interested in how this fits in with your conspiracy theory that Israel is preventing news getting out of the Gaza strip by not allowing journalists in.

Israel killed a journo FD ... it kinda proves my point you dumbarse :D :D

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 10:17am:

Congratulations on trying to find evidence to back up your claim Nail. Would you mind highlighting the bit where it accuses him, or the state of Israel, or terrorism? Would you say you "essentially agree" with the claim that Israel is a terrorist organisation, even if you don't "actually agree" with it? Also, do you think that Al Jazeera did the right thing in sending Anas al-Sharif into Gaza, accompanied by 5 other journalists who were also killed, after Israel openly declared their belief that he was a member of a terrorist organisation nearly a year ago? Other than a large number of dead journalists, what do you think would happen if more journalists were allowed in? Also, can you explain how they managed to get this news out to the world even though, according to you, the Israelis would prevent such news from escaping? Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 8:03pm: freediver wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:56pm: Upload it John. Upload it with what ? IDF will be jamming or disabling the internet services the same way it won't allow journalists in. Also no electricity to charge phones.

Just let the journos in and stop mucking around :( If as you claim Hamas is the terrorist then this will come out with proper investigative journalism.  ;)

facts:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/13/protests-vigils-held-around-globe-for-gaza-assassinated-journalists

13 Aug 2025

Israel’s war on Gaza has killed at least 61,722 people and wounded 154,525. An estimated 1,139 people were killed in Israel during the October 7, 2023, attacks in southern Israel, and more than 200 were taken captive.

Nearly 270 Palestinian journalists and media workers
have been killed by Israel since the war began.

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 10:40am:

freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 10:17am: Congratulations on trying to find evidence to back up your claim Nail. Would you mind highlighting the bit where it accuses him, or the state of Israel, or terrorism? Would you say you "essentially agree" with the claim that Israel is a terrorist organisation, even if you don't "actually agree" with it? Also, do you think that Al Jazeera did the right thing in sending Anas al-Sharif into Gaza, accompanied by 5 other journalists who were also killed, after Israel openly declared their belief that he was a member of a terrorist organisation nearly a year ago? Other than a large number of dead journalists, what do you think would happen if more journalists were allowed in? Also, can you explain how they managed to get this news out to the world even though, according to you, the Israelis would prevent such news from escaping? Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 8:03pm: freediver wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:56pm: Upload it John. Upload it with what ? IDF will be jamming or disabling the internet services the same way it won't allow journalists in. Also no electricity to charge phones. Just let the journos in and stop mucking around :( If as you claim Hamas is the terrorist then this will come out with proper investigative journalism.  ;)

What do you mean if? Everyone already knows Hamas is a terrorist organisation. Hamas is not exactly keeping it a secret. How many journalists do you think should die in order to prove the bleeding obvious?

Would you mind highlighting the bit where your "evidence" accuses the state of Israel of terrorism? Would you say you "essentially agree" with the claim that Israel is a terrorist organisation, even if you don't "actually agree" with it?

Do you think that Al Jazeera did the right thing in sending Anas al-Sharif into Gaza, accompanied by 5 other journalists who were also killed, after Israel openly declared their belief that he was a member of a terrorist organisation nearly a year ago? Other than a large number of dead journalists, what do you think would happen if more journalists were allowed in?

Also, can you explain how they managed to get this news out to the world even though, according to your conspiracy, the Jews would prevent such news from escaping?

Lets get real guys.

Israel knows it's losing the propaganda war as pictures of starving and dead
women and children appear on our TVs every night.

Killing journalists is a way to shoot the messenger
to help in Israel's propaganda war -
try to stop the truth getting out - as much as possible.
That is a bit difficult with mobile phone cameras
and Starlink internet connections.

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 10:40am: freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 10:17am: Congratulations on trying to find evidence to back up your claim Nail. Would you mind highlighting the bit where it accuses him, or the state of Israel, or terrorism? Would you say you "essentially agree" with the claim that Israel is a terrorist organisation, even if you don't "actually agree" with it? Also, do you think that Al Jazeera did the right thing in sending Anas al-Sharif into Gaza, accompanied by 5 other journalists who were also killed, after Israel openly declared their belief that he was a member of a terrorist organisation nearly a year ago? Other than a large number of dead journalists, what do you think would happen if more journalists were allowed in? Also, can you explain how they managed to get this news out to the world even though, according to you, the Israelis would prevent such news from escaping? Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 8:03pm: freediver wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:56pm: Upload it John. Upload it with what ? IDF will be jamming or disabling the internet services the same way it won't allow journalists in. Also no electricity to charge phones. Just let the journos in and stop mucking around :( If as you claim Hamas is the terrorist then this will come out with proper investigative journalism.  ;) What do you mean if? Everyone already knows Hamas is a terrorist organisation. Hamas is not exactly keeping it a secret. How many journalists do you think should die in order to prove the bleeding obvious? Would you mind highlighting the bit where your "evidence" accuses the state of Israel of terrorism? Would you say you "essentially agree" with the claim that Israel is a terrorist organisation, even if you don't "actually agree" with it? Do you think that Al Jazeera did the right thing in sending Anas al-Sharif into Gaza, accompanied by 5 other journalists who were also killed, after Israel openly declared their belief that he was a member of a terrorist organisation nearly a year ago? Other than a large number of dead journalists, what do you think would happen if more journalists were allowed in? Also, can you explain how they managed to get this news out to the world even though, according to your conspiracy, the Jews would prevent such news from escaping?

Bobbys post above. Seriously, FD you must have cognitive dissonance :D LOL

I have some very simple questions for you Nail, which you are incapable of giving a straight answer to.

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 11:00am:

I have some very simple questions for you Nail, which you are incapable of giving a straight answer to.

Let the international journos in and then you'll get your answers, otherwise what have you got to hide ??

The World is Turning on Israel! What More Will It Take?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwqDioASzwE

You are starting to sound like a parrot Nail.

I would get a lot of dead journalists, and you would still be avoiding simple questions.

Everyone already knows Hamas is a terrorist organisation. Hamas is not exactly keeping it a secret. How many journalists do you think should die in order to prove the bleeding obvious?

Do you think that Al Jazeera did the right thing in sending Anas al-Sharif into Gaza, accompanied by 5 other journalists who were also killed, after Israel openly declared their belief that he was a member of a terrorist organisation nearly a year ago? Other than a large number of dead journalists, what do you think would happen if more journalists were allowed in?

Would you mind highlighting the bit where your "evidence" accuses the state of Israel of terrorism? Would you say you "essentially agree" with the claim that Israel is a terrorist organisation, even if you don't "actually agree" with it?

Also, can you explain how they managed to get this news out to the world even though, according to your conspiracy that you have been parroting in the other thread, the Jews would prevent such news from escaping?

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 11:44am:

You are starting to sound like a parrot Nail. I would get a lot of dead journalists, and you would still be avoiding simple questions. Everyone already knows Hamas is a terrorist organisation. Hamas is not exactly keeping it a secret. How many journalists do you think should die in order to prove the bleeding obvious? Do you think that Al Jazeera did the right thing in sending Anas al-Sharif into Gaza, accompanied by 5 other journalists who were also killed, after Israel openly declared their belief that he was a member of a terrorist organisation nearly a year ago? Other than a large number of dead journalists, what do you think would happen if more journalists were allowed in? Would you mind highlighting the bit where your "evidence" accuses the state of Israel of terrorism? Would you say you "essentially agree" with the claim that Israel is a terrorist organisation, even if you don't "actually agree" with it? Also, can you explain how they managed to get this news out to the world even though, according to your conspiracy that you have been parroting in the other thread, the Jews would prevent such news from escaping?

Here you go. I got your answers here.

Israel’s MOST BRAZEN Journalist Killing Yet!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d-GwvjElBs

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 11:44am:

You are starting to sound like a parrot Nail.

:D :D :D

Do you even read your posts FD?

.

Wow, defending the killing of a journalist? Just. . .wow!

Defending illegal actions, immoral actions instead of calling them out just makes the person or organisation doing those actions more comfortable committing the next murder, arson or whatever.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 1:16pm:

Wow, defending the killing of a journalist? Just. . .wow! Defending illegal actions, immoral actions instead of calling them out just makes the person or organisation doing those actions more comfortable committing the next murder, arson or whatever.

How do you know it was illegal and immoral Monk?

Shooting a journalist, uhh, ummm oh too hard a question FD!

Jeez!

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 1:47pm:

Shooting a journalist, uhh, ummm oh too hard a question FD! Jeez!

If a Hamas militant starts carrying a camera round with him and a shirt with press written on it, does it become immoral to shoot him?

Is that “militant” employed by Al Jazeera? Is he a trained journalist?

Israel is losing support, shooting a journalist will just accelerate that.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 3:29pm:

Is that “militant” employed by Al Jazeera? Is he a trained journalist? Israel is losing support, shooting a journalist will just accelerate that.

Does it make a difference to your answer Monk? Think about what you are saying.

You are bullshitting FD, something you do a lot.

What do we know? We know an Al Jazeera journalist was shot by the IDF.

This is a terrible look for Israel!

Excuse the murderers, apologise for the IDF and they will murder more, Red Cross representatives, volunteers bringing food, etc.

Before long Israel will be just the old farts who can’t migrate somewhere, anywhere out of Israel!

Hold Israel accountable! Make similar murders harder to justify and some sort of real peace treaty/two state solution can be negotiated and the deaths and murders can end, permanently!

Quote:

You are bullshitting FD, something you do a lot.

I am asking you a question Monk. You are avoiding it.

If a Hamas militant starts carrying a camera round with him and a shirt with press written on it, does it become immoral to shoot him?

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 4:56pm:

Quote: You are bullshitting FD, something you do a lot. I am asking you a question Monk. You are avoiding it. If a Hamas militant starts carrying a camera round with him and a shirt with press written on it, does it become immoral to shoot him?

Better still,  people can now murder anyone they like and say it's because they suspect them of being a Hamas terrorist without providing a single shred of evidence. Why don't you try it on your neighbours FD. If war criminal Netanyahu can get away with it why not anyone else ? :D LOL

Terrorist, Murderer, Cartel, Gangster, Pirate...

Just some that Hollywood want to romanticise for a mini-series or movie.

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 5:42pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 4:56pm: Quote: You are bullshitting FD, something you do a lot. I am asking you a question Monk. You are avoiding it. If a Hamas militant starts carrying a camera round with him and a shirt with press written on it, does it become immoral to shoot him? Better still,  people can now murder anyone they like and say it's because they accuse them of being a Hamas terrorist without providing a single shred of evidence. Why don't you try it on your neighbours FD. If war criminal Netanyahu can get away with it why not anyone else ? :D LOL

NEVER thought I would say this Nails. . .

. . .BUT

spot on!

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 14^th, 2025 at 6:39pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 5:42pm: freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 4:56pm: Quote: You are bullshitting FD, something you do a lot. I am asking you a question Monk. You are avoiding it. If a Hamas militant starts carrying a camera round with him and a shirt with press written on it, does it become immoral to shoot him? Better still,  people can now murder anyone they like and say it's because they accuse them of being a Hamas terrorist without providing a single shred of evidence. Why don't you try it on your neighbours FD. If war criminal Netanyahu can get away with it why not anyone else ? :D LOL NEVER thought I would say this Nails. . . . . .BUT spot on!

Both of you are incredibly naive. Israel is killing a large number of people. Because they are at war. A war that is entirely Hamas' fault. No-one is going to demand paperwork.

Why are you afraid to answer the question Monk?

freediver wrote on Aug 15^th, 2025 at 8:44am:

Both of you are incredibly naive

Not as naive as you it seems ::)

Ask me your question, FD.

If I answer will you change the name of my MRB from, essentially, Critters and Critters to Critters and Gardening?

If a Hamas militant starts carrying a camera round with him and a shirt with press written on it, does it become immoral to shoot him?

If I answer will you change the name of my MRB from, essentially, Critters and Critters to Critters and Gardening?

;D

Run away Monk. Your spineless evasion tells us far more about what you think than a straight answer would.

Ready to answer FD if you will just give my MRB a more sensible name.

FD, you called me a liar for saying feral cats breed. If feral cats didn’t breed then we wouldn’t have a feral cat problem, would we?

So please change the title of my board and I will answer you.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 15^th, 2025 at 5:15pm:

Ready to answer FD if you will just give my MRB a more sensible name.

Hi Monk,

here's a form for you to fill out:


https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/d9/e4/da/d9e4da01b94da528fb249a729114f267.jpg

Please fill in that form, Booby, then wipe your smelly arse with it. After that, do what you want with it.

FD, you called me a liar for saying feral cats breed. If feral cats didn’t breed then we wouldn’t have a feral cat problem, would we?

So please change the title of my board and I will answer you.

freediver wrote on Aug 15^th, 2025 at 8:44am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 6:39pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 5:42pm: freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 4:56pm: Quote: You are bullshitting FD, something you do a lot. I am asking you a question Monk. You are avoiding it. If a Hamas militant starts carrying a camera round with him and a shirt with press written on it, does it become immoral to shoot him? Better still,  people can now murder anyone they like and say it's because they accuse them of being a Hamas terrorist without providing a single shred of evidence. Why don't you try it on your neighbours FD. If war criminal Netanyahu can get away with it why not anyone else ? :D LOL NEVER thought I would say this Nails. . . . . .BUT spot on! Both of you are incredibly naive. Israel is killing a large number of people. Because they are at war. A war that is entirely Hamas' fault. No-one is going to demand paperwork. Why are you afraid to answer the question Monk?

Yes they are at war with women and children but still want Hamas to surrender :D LOL How many more civilians have to die in this "war against Hamas" that achieves absolutely nothing ???? :(

Unless it is just a grab for more Palestinian land. ;)

Clearly, this all, from letting Hamas conduct their raid to now, is just a land grab.

Love the Israelis.

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How would Penny go in a Palestinian state?
Might get chucked off a building

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That's a GOOD terr masquerading as a journalist...... good and dead....

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 15^th, 2025 at 6:52pm:

Clearly, this all, from letting Hamas conduct their raid to now, is just a land grab.

Ahhhh.. yeah, man ... yeah ... it was... you know.. a plot, man.... what's 1200 or so innocents when you can ... like...   ahhhh .. grab that land, man.... I mean... look at the joint, man... prime... yeah real prime... and I hear people get stoned there all the time, you know.... Hamas.. you know.. they're like ... holding themselves in reserve... in case.. you know... peace breaks out and...ahhh.. like threatens their voter base...

Just THINK that Palestine is there, man - and it WiLL be... enough of the negative waves so early in the morning!!!

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 15^th, 2025 at 5:15pm:

Ready to answer FD if you will just give my MRB a more sensible name.

He did   " ducking and weaving "    ;D

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 15^th, 2025 at 6:28pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 15th, 2025 at 8:44am: Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 6:39pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 5:42pm: freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 4:56pm: Quote: You are bullshitting FD, something you do a lot. I am asking you a question Monk. You are avoiding it. If a Hamas militant starts carrying a camera round with him and a shirt with press written on it, does it become immoral to shoot him? Better still,  people can now murder anyone they like and say it's because they accuse them of being a Hamas terrorist without providing a single shred of evidence. Why don't you try it on your neighbours FD. If war criminal Netanyahu can get away with it why not anyone else ? :D LOL NEVER thought I would say this Nails. . . . . .BUT spot on! Both of you are incredibly naive. Israel is killing a large number of people. Because they are at war. A war that is entirely Hamas' fault. No-one is going to demand paperwork. Why are you afraid to answer the question Monk? Yes they are at war with women and children but still want Hamas to surrender :D LOL How many more civilians have to die in this "war against Hamas" that achieves absolutely nothing ???? :( Unless it is just a grab for more Palestinian land. ;)

How many more deaths is entirely up to Hamas. Israel has no control over it.

If Hamas were to lay down there weapons, there would be peace. If Israel were to lay down their weapons, there would be slaughter.

If a Hamas militant starts carrying a camera round with him and a shirt with press written on it, does it become immoral to shoot him?

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If Hamas were to lay down there weapons, there would be peace.

Bollocks. There would be more and more ground theft by the State of Israel.

Aussie wrote on Aug 16^th, 2025 at 12:43pm:

Quote: If Hamas were to lay down there weapons, there would be peace. Bollocks. There would be more and more ground theft by the State of Israel.

It is much easier to shift the border during a war Aussie.

Post 1967, the only significant change has been the disengagement from Gaza in 2005, and look how that turned out.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 15^th, 2025 at 10:52pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 15th, 2025 at 5:15pm: Ready to answer FD if you will just give my MRB a more sensible name. He did   " ducking and weaving "    ;D

Well, makes more sense than Critters and Critters.