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General Discussion >> Aboriginal Affairs >> 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1754101875 Message started by Brian Ross on Aug 2nd, 2025 at 12:31pm |
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Title: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Brian Ross on Aug 2nd, 2025 at 12:31pm |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Aug 2nd, 2025 at 12:59pm
Nice photos, very aboriginal looking people and the name Mikalya is so appropriate.
Learning languages and keeping obscure ones alive is a noble occupation and, best of all, requires no Government funding. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Gnads on Aug 2nd, 2025 at 5:29pm Brian Ross wrote on Aug 2nd, 2025 at 12:31pm:
Absolute garbage that any Aboriginal language has been suppressed for the last 60 years. What has happened is that languages have been lost/become extinct for a myriad of reasons. The main one being that if Aboriginals were to progress in the modern world they had to learn to speak English. All old dropkicks like Bwyan want is for Aboriginal people to remain in a 100 year time warp to remain his ideal of a museum piece of the noble savage. There was no such thing as "silenced First nations". Speaking tribal languages was discouraged in an attempt to bring Aboriginal people into the modern world. Being able to speak a lost language - or more so a reinvented language for feel good reasons by white looking box ticking Aboriginals ... will do nothing for future aspirations of improvement in education or employment. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:29am Gnads wrote on Aug 2nd, 2025 at 5:29pm:
Learning any language, lost or obscure, is a useful educational tool and being bilingual is thus to be encouraged, but as the cost is so minimal there should be no Government funding. One can also have fun, my wife is fluent in Arabic, having been a private households’ nurse in Bahrain,, we both speak Hindi dialects, French and Irish. We sometimes go to the shopping centre in Bankstown [NSW] and sit on the same bench and she listens in to Muslims’ conversations and relays their remarks about non-muslims to me in French or Hindi and I reply in Irish. As cover we use our phones so that we can speak softly. Languages can be useful. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Frank on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:34am Gnads wrote on Aug 2nd, 2025 at 5:29pm:
Fully sick one... https://youtu.be/MtmzzIcgPKA?si=45RaXDhKdXABdiwq |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 1:29pm
Yes - I can see everyone lining up to suppress Abo languages... FFS.. get a life.
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Brian Ross on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 1:46pm
Despite what some may believe, Indigenous languages were suppressed in the various Christian missions, Government homes and so on, to the point that many Indigenous people lost their languages. They were forbidden to speak in anything other than English and a failure to do so resulted in punishment, beatings, starvation, etc. This evidence in the numerous accounts by members of the Stolen Generations in the various inquiries into the matter. Time you lot read them, educated yourselves as to the facts. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Frank on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 1:51pm Brian Ross wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 1:46pm:
When you go to school, you speak English. Even today. All the diverse, vibrant kiddies in schools today are expected to speak only English. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 2:41pm Brian Ross wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 1:46pm:
Agree, and not only Aboriginal children, two of my first cousins were caned for speaking Irish at school, their father, dad’s brother, narrowly escaped prosecution for taking the teacher’s cane and giving him a taste of his own medicine. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 2:53pm Frank wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 1:51pm:
This was particularly so in the 1960s, teachers in NSW State schools were not allowed to have such other children who were versed in a newcomers language to translate for them. My first wife was a school teacher at the time and daily disregarded such a stupid education disabling instruction, fortunately the education system has progressed since then, at least in that particular. Certainty children are expected to use English but today they are helped more. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Frank on Aug 4th, 2025 at 8:56pm
Reawakening Aboriginal linguistic vibrancy
Not since the advent of gravy trains has there been a bigger gravy train than appointment to a taxpayer-funded board, membership of which requires little by way of contribution aside from showing up to the monthly meetings. It is a laugh, one of the greatest giggles in the corporate spheres of government. Money for nothing, cheques for free. But if there was an unstated rule of this racket it’s simply that appointees avoid any vulgar behaviour that could bring their organisation into disrepute. Such as recording oneself angrily swearing into the lens of a phone camera, as Indigenous artist Fred Leone has done, and telling the Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and Foreign Minister Penny Wong they are “c..ts” and can both go and “get f…ed”. For practically anyone, this behaviour would fall within the bounds of immediate dismissal. Not for Leone, an Aboriginal songman. He’s keeping his ministerially-appointed job on the Music Australia Council until the term expires at the end of the month. Which is surprising, given his crude remarks. Leone’s upset over the PM’s statements on the recognition of a Palestinian state, which is odd because Albanese is very warm to the proposal, as is Wong. It’s just that in a rare flight of sanity on this topic, the government has actually made that support conditional on the release of Israeli hostages and Hamas laying down its arms. The gall of them. In posts published online over the weekend, Leone took issue with this, calling Albanese a “money-grabbing dog” who “bitched out like a dingo with its tale (sic) between its legs”. He called Wong a “f%cktard (sic)” and then clarified by saying that both she and the PM were “a pair of dogs”. Bad already, Leone went further, filming himself calling Albanese a “weak-as-piss c..t” and warning him not to approach should they see each other at an airport because he, Leone, would “f...ing rip you in front of everyone”, which sounded a bit like a physical threat. Leone then levelled his anger at Tony Burke, the minister who appointed him to the Music Australia Council, saying: “F..k that weak-ass minister for immigration, Tony Burke, you can all go get f...ed.” Membership of the Music Australia Council, an appendage of Creative Australia chaired by its CEO, Adrian Collette, attracts a modest salary of $24,540 per year, although it’s not the money that’s important here. Burke had the opportunity to sack Leone more than a year ago when the musician vowed to boycott Jewish and pro-Israel artists in the music industry. Then as now, he didn’t take it. “Hands up all the proud zionists in the Australian Music Industry! Wave ya flag instead of hiding behind ya money and power. We are boycotting you! Across the board, you don’t get to thrive here any more,” said Leone, who later removed the post and issued a statement vowing to stop expressing personal opinions while on the board of a government organisation, presumably so Burke wouldn’t sack him. We put it to Burke that self-publishing a video calling the prime minister a “c..t” and being told himself to “get f…ed” might trip a boundary line and warrant dismissal, amid a recurring pattern of similarly revolting behaviour. Burke’s response was short. “His (Leone’s) language escalated as soon as he was told that he wasn’t going to be reappointed to Music Australia,” as though gentle non-reappointment is indicative of leadership and consequence on this issue. But it’s not, and it feels like affirmative action at work because anyone else would have been fired on the spot. A set of rules for Leone, and a set of rules for everyone else. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Aug 4th, 2025 at 9:52pm
Well - YOU go to Langslamobad and expect them all to speak YOUR language.... see how far you get....
FFS - English is the Lingua Franca of the world - airline pilots are required to use it... it's a matter of respect and mutual understanding and to try to avoid any misunderstandings... That is why SOME of us - but not the sum of us - work so hard to prevent language being perverted.... e.g. Men and Women Boys and Girls are not 'males' and 'females' - they are not laboratory specimens in some mad social scientist's laboratory - they are human individuals and entitled to respect as such.... and to be treated as such.... ad I would extend the same to all animals - who despite being different from humans, have their own innate intelligence and ways ... .... fireside chat ........ traveling home from picking up some petrol for the generator to keep us going while TOG is recuperating from massive bowel surgery with poer out for more than 2.5 days ..... I was behind four other cars... coming up over a small crest I saw a run over wood duck in the middle of the road - apparently one of the cars had run over it .. they cross the road in a 'flock' ... thing was - the 'flock' were all standing on the side of the road when I arrived and looking back at their smashed compatriot and clearly regretted that it had happened ... they KNEW ... and FELT... what had happened to one of theirs.... As human beings I would hope that we could treat one another with the same degree of 'respect'... and let me be clear here.... there are far too many people who delight in harming others or who have no real regard for the harm they cause as long as they achieve their result ..... they are called psychopaths.... and they can breed ..... and they are found everywhere.... and many politicians and their 'ruling class' mates are a perfect example... I was re-reading - after a span of years, my first book - a partial auto-bio... and I was amazed at two things - one was myself and what I am... the other was how low people can be... and then they get lower .... Do YOU know what the difference between a SOO and an SFO is? |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Boris on Aug 4th, 2025 at 11:12pm
When will the Abos stop raping and murdering babies?
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Brian Ross on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:45pm Boris wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 11:12pm:
Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Gnads on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:49pm Brian Ross wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:45pm:
Moron Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Aug 9th, 2025 at 2:13pm Brian Ross wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:45pm:
Poltroon. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Aug 9th, 2025 at 2:21pm
There are free Aboriginal language resources available for free online.
https://seqilc.com.au/blog/online-resources-wanted/ |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by John Smith on Aug 9th, 2025 at 4:03pm Gnads wrote on Aug 2nd, 2025 at 5:29pm:
:D :D ya dumbarse |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Gnads on Aug 9th, 2025 at 6:11pm John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2025 at 4:03pm:
Ya certainly are. a moronically dumbarse. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Jasin on Aug 9th, 2025 at 7:50pm Brian Ross wrote on Aug 2nd, 2025 at 12:31pm:
NO. They were too lazy to keep their languages going into the new generations or share their secret knowledge with people who could put them into writing for them for preservation. It's their own fault that their culture is as lazy as a panda bear's ability to survive. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Jasin on Aug 9th, 2025 at 7:51pm John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2025 at 4:03pm:
Another schoolboy post by the Redneck. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Valkie on Aug 9th, 2025 at 8:44pm
We don't need any more of these guteral gruntings.
We have a sophisticated language. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by John Smith on Aug 10th, 2025 at 8:57am Gnads wrote on Aug 9th, 2025 at 6:11pm:
Obviously you should worry more about the English language then Aboriginal languages ... |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Boris on Aug 10th, 2025 at 9:30am
When will they stop raping and murdering babies?
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Aug 10th, 2025 at 11:57am
WOFTAM so five people can chat in their own lingo - at the same time when the demand is going up and up for 'migrants' to speak-a da Einglis.
What are they going to do with them? Record them for museums or something? Sell sound tracks and make a motza? |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Aug 10th, 2025 at 7:35pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 10th, 2025 at 11:57am:
Language has a lot to do with culture and self esteem, just ask the Welsh, or the Icelandic, Cornish, Scots, Breton, Manx, Irish or Basque people; and not to forget the speakers of Shelta, in Ireland, Britain and the USA. They are also useful for answering unwanted questions telephone calls. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Setanta on Aug 10th, 2025 at 7:52pm Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Aug 10th, 2025 at 7:35pm:
A code talker was a person employed by the military during wartime to use a little-known language as a means of secret communication. The term is most often used for United States service members during the World Wars who used their knowledge of Native American languages as a basis to transmit coded messages. In particular, there were approximately 400 to 500 Native Americans in the United States Marine Corps whose primary job was to transmit secret tactical messages. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Aug 10th, 2025 at 9:07pm
ll well and good - and while I heartily agree - that is about all it is worth - UNLESS .... we draft them into the military and they use that as Setanta said.
It's not as if they are going to die or anything from not using that language - and they will still have to use the lingua franca - all sweet feelings aside. They would be better being bi-lingual and not just trapped in a language that only five other know. It really is not a big deal, unless it perpetuates the myth of some sort of 'sovereignty' and such and leads them into conflict with Australia as it is today. Retention of all parts of their 'culture' is fine as part of their citizenship of this country and part of the rich tapestry of Oz. I copped flak here for saying a past mate was great at yabbying - the assholes here said that was demeaning him - say what? He could fish and yabby a lot better than I could - ya gotta respect that over a cold one later. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Brian Ross on Aug 10th, 2025 at 9:15pm Boris wrote on Aug 10th, 2025 at 9:30am:
Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Gnads on Aug 11th, 2025 at 7:23am Brian Ross wrote on Aug 10th, 2025 at 9:15pm:
Moron Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Gnads on Aug 11th, 2025 at 7:24am John Smith wrote on Aug 10th, 2025 at 8:57am:
Hypocrite |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Jasin on Aug 11th, 2025 at 8:06am
I'm sorry guys. But Mimo Smith the Troll has a very pathetic command & use of the English language that is lucky to commit to something more than four words long.
We can see how Brian & Smith are scared to engage with each other. It would be like a personality clash of the South Pacific doldrums during the Age of the sail. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by John Smith on Aug 11th, 2025 at 8:10am Gnads wrote on Aug 11th, 2025 at 7:24am:
No, I don't cry because someone might learn an aboriginal language. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Jasin on Aug 11th, 2025 at 8:15am
You should keep your $60 cakehole shut Mimo.
You can't even cope with the English language for starters while trying to virtue signal yourself over Cheer Mob languages that we know you wouldn't want to speak as a National language anyway You're just a miserable Troll loser. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Jasin on Aug 11th, 2025 at 8:19am
The American Indian, covered in feathers, danced his way upwards chanting he was 'One with the Sky spirit'.
While flying overhead was White Man, in a innovation that didn't need feathers and could fly into outer space (heaven). ...meanwhile in Australia: An Aborigine has covered himself in Kelp dancing he is 'One with the Water spirit'. Well, we know where this one is going folks. ;) |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Aug 11th, 2025 at 11:04am Jasin wrote on Aug 11th, 2025 at 8:19am:
Run over by a jet skier? |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Jasin on Aug 11th, 2025 at 3:21pm
;D
Mimo Smith covers himself with alphabet soup down his shirt and considers himself at one with the writing spirit. ;) |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Aug 11th, 2025 at 4:13pm
It would be well to remember that the American Indian built towns, including buildings that would be considered large even today, was a sophisticated trader, made durable and attractive clothing.
They also worked copperas well as silver and gold. There is no comparison with Australian Aborigines. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Gnads on Aug 12th, 2025 at 9:18am John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2025 at 8:10am:
Neither do I you retard. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Jasin on Aug 12th, 2025 at 8:51pm
I wonder which Aborigine language they'll choose to teach as mandatory in all schools? ;D
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Boris on Aug 12th, 2025 at 9:26pm |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by John Smith on Aug 12th, 2025 at 9:32pm Gnads wrote on Aug 12th, 2025 at 9:18am:
keep telling yourself that .... maybe one day even you might believe it :D |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Jasin on Aug 13th, 2025 at 8:56am
Mimo Smith has ASPD
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Gnads on Aug 13th, 2025 at 11:59am John Smith wrote on Aug 12th, 2025 at 9:32pm:
Dribble on DH. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Aug 14th, 2025 at 11:22am Jasin wrote on Aug 13th, 2025 at 8:56am:
.. making an asp of himself again ... |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Jasin on Aug 14th, 2025 at 2:41pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 11:22am:
When he dribbles spaghetti and meatballs down his t-shirt. Do you think he spiritually becomes one with the Mafia? ;D |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Gnads on Aug 14th, 2025 at 6:22pm Jasin wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 2:41pm:
Which mafia? - there are a few. I think he & Wong are of the deluded ideologue Mafia. They know how to ostracize those who don't agree with the ideology. Mean girls, mean girls whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when the truth comes for you? |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by John Smith on Aug 14th, 2025 at 6:30pm Gnads wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 6:22pm:
ohh you poor diddums. Are you feeling like a victim? I'm sorry But perhaps you should grow a set if you want to keep acting the bigot |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Boris on Aug 14th, 2025 at 9:55pm
Aborigine women and children - even babies are being raped and murdered - and it's getting worse
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Gnads on Aug 15th, 2025 at 8:14am John Smith wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 6:30pm:
GFY Guido |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Gnads on Aug 15th, 2025 at 8:14am Brian Ross wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 11:23pm:
Moron Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2025 at 8:22am Gnads wrote on Aug 15th, 2025 at 8:14am:
You'll have to show me how you do it first. Are you a contortionist or do you use aids? |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Jasin on Aug 15th, 2025 at 8:41am
Show you? Are you a voyeur? You're a filthy, homo erotic Mimo if ever there was one.
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Aug 15th, 2025 at 9:48am John Smith wrote on Aug 14th, 2025 at 6:30pm:
If that's a bigot - I'll proudly wear the badge... telling twerps where they get off the freeload bus is not 'bigotry'... get some new material - you might even find a word that means something real instead of did-ums shrieking about things to silence critics ... We're taking back the farm, Smith - get onboard or get off... |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2025 at 10:38am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 15th, 2025 at 9:48am:
You've been doing just that for years now ::) |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Jasin on Aug 15th, 2025 at 11:22am
Beats wearing spaghetti & meatballs stains Chico.
You shouldn't talk with your mouth full. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Gnads on Aug 15th, 2025 at 6:06pm John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2025 at 8:22am:
I told you you were still a child - needing instruction on everything. You're a slippery twisty lefty - it shouldn't present a problem. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2025 at 8:29pm Gnads wrote on Aug 15th, 2025 at 6:06pm:
Don't be shy now. Show us how you do it. I've tried but never been able to. Maybe I'm just not as slippery as you? |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Jasin on Aug 15th, 2025 at 8:44pm
You're definitely greasy to start with Mimo ;D
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Aug 16th, 2025 at 11:08am
Museum pieces... the Army etc should take some in now and train them as wind talkers...
Lei go hai mat ye? Wha' this numbah ten Aussie say? |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Aug 16th, 2025 at 11:11am Gnads wrote on Aug 15th, 2025 at 6:06pm:
It's the infantile nature of the progressive - look at Albo and his cohorts... schoolyard politics and such and sheilas eee-eeewing about boys running the roost... FFS... and this when the sheila's takeover of schooling has lead to 'gender fantasy ideology' being a big deal and fed to kids from an early age .... been arguing for three days now with some dork in the US who calls me 'dude', and still can't see that gender and gender identity are two different things. Like most such, he clearly knows it all... pity the world has to catch up one day. |
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Title: Re: 'The sky's the limit': Re-awakening languages Post by Gnads on Aug 18th, 2025 at 11:34am John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2025 at 8:29pm:
I know English is your second language try looking up "figuratively speaking" as opposed to "literally speaking". Though seeing as your so twisty you should be able to literally do it as well. Or then again you could always just go to your normal pose. Smithy_Self_portrait.jpg (52 KB | 14
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