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Title: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Armchair_Politician on Aug 2nd, 2025 at 10:23am
Trump has fired Bureau of Labor Statistics Commissioner Erika McEntarfer, saying the weak job numbers released today were “phony”. Hmm, tell me you're unhinged without saying so!
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/01/business/trump-job-report-number-fire |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by MeisterEckhart on Aug 2nd, 2025 at 10:29am
The ghost of Roy Cohn whispering in Trump's ear again, then!
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by John Smith on Aug 2nd, 2025 at 10:38am
Trump is desperately looking for something, anything, to distract the maga nuts from Epstein
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Armchair_Politician on Aug 2nd, 2025 at 12:15pm John Smith wrote on Aug 2nd, 2025 at 10:38am:
Sadly for him (and happily for us), the more he tries, the worse he makes it. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Armchair_Politician on Aug 5th, 2025 at 9:40am
Here's the other problem with him firing her simply because he doesn't like the information she supplied. He may well now get erroneous information from other departments and agencies whose leaders are worried that by providing information that Trump will deem unsatisfactory (i.e. fake news), they may lose their job and in an effort to prevent this, they may fudge the data in order to please Trump and keep their job.
The problem with this is obvious - Trump will make decisions based on incorrect information and that will make existing problems worse and/or create problems where none previously existed. Unfortunately for all Americans (and to a lesser extent, other countries), this will cause real, tangible problems in their daily lives. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 5th, 2025 at 11:41am Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 9:40am:
Exactly! |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:25pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 11:41am:
It's already happening. We've seen the so-called "briefings" he gets, less intelligence document, more children's pop-up book. He has no interest in reading. He relies entirely on what sycophants whisper in his ear, and they, in turn, only tell him what he wants to hear. Based on his actions, it's entirely plausible he genuinely believes that things like bad jobs numbers are "fake news", not because he's lying (though he often is), but because he's being actively misled by his own handlers, either to keep him docile or to steer policy without oversight. At this point, he's not leading, he's a flesh-and-blood autopen, signing off on whatever the machine behind him decides, too incurious and too self-absorbed to know the difference. He just wants to take credit for the thing they tell him are great while he gold plates everything around himself to feel like a king. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Armchair_Politician on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:33pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:25pm:
That oval office used to look very regal and classy - until Trump came in. Now he's adorned it with so much gold that it looks like a B-grade porn set from the 70's. Also, with the cost of living crisis in the US and it only going to get worse as tariffs start to bite more, is spending $200m on building a ballroom at the White House really a wise use of taxpayer funds? I thought he wanted to stop the waste? Oh, and $200m? Is the floor going to be laid with real gold bricks??? |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:39pm
Does one spend $200 million on a ballroom if they're only going to be in the job for another 3 years, or is he telegraphing intentions to stay longer?
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:41pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 2nd, 2025 at 10:23am:
You already started another breathless thread about this. Start another. Start two. TrumpHitler, Trump Napoleon, Trump Mao, Trump Mohammed, Trump Genghis Khan, HEY HO, Hey Ho, Trumpity Trumpy Trump. March of the Seven TDS Dwarves. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:53pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:39pm:
Exactly. I stand by my prediction that there probably won't be an election in 2028. "I'm doing such a good job, and everybody loves me, there's no need for an election." All the "experts" keep saying that it's impossible for him to run for a third term, or stay in office after this term expires, because the Constitution prohibits it. My reply to that is, how can a piece of paper stop him? There are laws that prohibit rape - he still raped someone. There are laws that prohibit stealing money from charities - he still did it. There are laws that prohibit fraud - he still did it 34 times, at least. And on and on it goes. He's a career criminal - laws mean nothing to him. If he wants to stay in the White House, what's gonna stop him? |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 5th, 2025 at 1:22pm Frank wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:41pm:
Why is it that every time you're presented with a choice, engage with the actual topic or hurl some lazy, uninspired personal insult, you always default to the latter? Is it because you don't have the intellectual tools to argue the point, or are you just more comfortable slinging mud than dealing with facts? Either way, it's painfully transparent. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by lee on Aug 5th, 2025 at 1:37pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:39pm:
You mean the Democrats don't ballroom dance? Maybe they do the Watusi. ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 5th, 2025 at 1:42pm lee wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 1:37pm:
Why would Trump - the rapist, convicted felon, and best friend of Epstein & Maxwell - do something for the Democrats? |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by lee on Aug 5th, 2025 at 1:45pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 1:42pm:
You mean the Democrats won't use it if they win? It is for the White House. maybe you should start a thread about Trump doing it and to then buy the White House to keep it from the Democrats. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 5th, 2025 at 1:56pm lee wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 1:45pm:
I mean, why would Trump - the rapist, convicted felon, and best friend of Epstein & Maxwell - do something for the Democrats? |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 5th, 2025 at 3:00pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzK5Oy10B9M
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by lee on Aug 5th, 2025 at 3:55pm
Thanks for the truncation. It shows your complete lack of worth. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Armchair_Politician on Aug 5th, 2025 at 4:30pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 12:39pm:
Not sure, but I can’t fathom how he can spend $200m on a ballroom - one room worth $200m!!! That’s insane. So much for stopping the waste. Pretty sure the White House already has a space that is suitable for use as a ballroom. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 5th, 2025 at 5:09pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 1:22pm:
Why start TWO breathless TDS threads on the same event? Because of TrumpHitler, Trump Napoleon, Trump Mao, Trump Mohammed, Trump Genghis Khan, HEY HO, Hey Ho, Trumpity Trumpy Trump. March of the Seven TDS Dwarves. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 5th, 2025 at 5:14pm Frank wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 5:09pm:
You're so quick to spiral into another meltdown today... Nothing major even happened, as far as I can tell, but I've been working, so maybe I missed whatever the latest attention-grabbing diversionary tactic was used today... Did another humiliating blunder come out of the White House, or is it just the cumulative weight of watching your messiah fail over and over that's finally starting to wear you down? Are you ok? |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by lee on Aug 5th, 2025 at 5:36pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 4:30pm:
"Officials said a 90,000-square-foot addition to the East Wing would be paid for by President Trump and other donors." https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/31/us/politics/white-house-ballroom-trump.html Oh noes. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 5th, 2025 at 5:44pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 5:14pm:
Hello?!? Bbwiyawn, that you? Playing the " I'll answer your question when FD answers mine" moronic game? Why start TWO breathless TDS threads on the same event? |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 5th, 2025 at 5:49pm lee wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 5:36pm:
:'( :'( :'( :'( And soon, construction will begin on the new ballroom, whose footprint will amount to the first major extension of the White House in decades. Trump said he, along with other private donors, will foot the $200 million bill. He also has said he paid for the flag poles and funded the Rose Garden renovations through private donations. CNN |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by John Smith on Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:10pm lee wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 5:36pm:
were they the same officials who said he would donate his salary in his first term :D :D |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:12pm John Smith wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:10pm:
didnt he? |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Leroy on Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:17pm Frank wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:12pm:
No he didn't, he received the payments but donated them to things like firefighters, education and other charities. Those with TDS cannot accept this and will argue about it. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by John Smith on Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:20pm Frank wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:12pm:
no |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by John Smith on Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:21pm Leroy wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:17pm:
did you read that on twitter :D :D |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Leroy on Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:29pm John Smith wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:21pm:
Truth social |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 5th, 2025 at 11:00pm John Smith wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:20pm:
Thanks for lying - again. Now go and sweep up. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Marla on Aug 6th, 2025 at 12:31am
If only she was standing on 5th avenue
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by aquascoot on Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:16am Frank wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 5:44pm:
I don't think of them as that Frank. To me, the obsession with Trump The obsession with the strong confident man is a sub Dom sexual fetish. Probably these obsessed guys had a really weak sauce dad. He was probably a bit of a loser and mum wore the pants. That's certainly true in a lot of leftie households nowadays. Note the obsession with trumps pens shape. We have had threads started on that The obsession with stormy and how she described her encounters The obsession with E Jean who even wrote that it was strangely erotic. The obsession with Trumps daughter and her ssex life. Now the obsession with the vaginally flora of malenia. It's a weird sex based obsession with a guy who is dominating them I think the cure for leftie intellectuals is to realise they are in a weird Dom sub fetish and try to find a quality woman who can stop them living vicariously. I'm pretty sure Freud and nietche would agree. At its core , the TDS is about the sexual inadequacy of the guys who want to be seen as nice guys and are resentful that they get no respect for being meek and submissive |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 6th, 2025 at 7:36am Frank wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 5:44pm:
Dunno, you'd have to ask OP. I'm not his keeper... Just because you might conspire with the other posters on here to stay on narrative doesn't mean the rest of us do. All we need to do is stick to the facts. We don't have to choose a way to spin it and not try to contradict the bullshit the other spin doctors post, trying to defend Trump. That's a you problem. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 6th, 2025 at 7:45am aquascoot wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:16am:
This is a textbook example of psychological projection wrapped in a poor mans Freud and bastardised Nietzsche. You're bending over backwards to reframe legitimate outrage over abuse, corruption and criminality into some sort of sexual kink fantasy, because you can't defend the actions on their merits, so you turn to deflection, smut and mockery. You're the one bringing up "vaginal flora" and sex lives, not anyone else. If someone posted about Trump's criminal behaviour, and you immediately leap to "they must be sexually obsessed with him", that says far more about what's going on in your subconscious than anyone else's. Also, stop dragging Freud and Nietzsche into your fantasy. Freud wrote about repressed trauma, not just sex, and Nietzsche's disdain was for herd morality, not those calling out the rich and powerful for raping children. You're not channelling philosophy, you're cosplaying as an intellectual to cover for enabling predators. Your whole post reads like the desperate lashing out of someone who knows they're defending the indefensible. You're not just excusing Trump's documented abuse, you're trying to shame the people who still have the moral clarity to call it out. Nobody's buying your pop-psychology drivel. If anyone needs to examine their fetishes, it's the guy who keeps reflexively sexualising every mention of criminal behaviour. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 6th, 2025 at 9:07am ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 7:45am:
I really enjoy watching aquascoot get schooled :) |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 6th, 2025 at 9:39am aquascoot wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:16am:
Yes, that is a strong element. ANother, related one, is the compulson to degrade and humiliate and dehumanise. They do not merely disagree, protest, critique - they want to simultaneously degrade and demonise. So they make out their opponents to be sexual perverts and mentally sub-human or devilishly demonic (the paradox is lost on them since the dehumanisation is the point). Solzhenitsyn and others documented this extensively when reporting on the Soviet method of psychologcal strategy and tactics, others have written about the fascists ways of psychologically breaking their opponents. Today we notice these tactics among the left and the militant activists of their various pet identity group. The phrase, 'her majesty's loyal opposotion' doesn't chime with the Left anymore. opposition to them is evil and/or subhuman. their rhetoric cofirms and reinforces that in their own minds in their every utterance. They are not debating democratic equals who are on their level but think and reason differenly, they are fighting evil demons. There is no 'loyal opposition', no recognised, shared foudation when you are battling evil demons. This requires their constant sexually, mental and moral dirtying, degrading and dehumanising those who oppose them. There are honourable exceptions, some sober, rational voices can still be heard on the Left but they are over-shouted, over-snarled by the mob. It has always been like this. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Carl D on Aug 6th, 2025 at 9:44am greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 9:07am:
Yes. Only problem is... I doubt he understands any of it. Even with the help of a dictionary. ;D |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 6th, 2025 at 9:52am ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 7:45am:
Barefaced, insidious lies wrapped in bombast: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 7:03pm:
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Jovial Monk on Aug 6th, 2025 at 9:55am
“Strong confident man”
TACO Narcissists like Trump can never take responsibility for their failures. That doesn’t sound like a strong man. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 6th, 2025 at 10:00am ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 7:45am:
You are lying, and you know it, bombastic, shifty little gauleiter of Meanjin. greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 4:22pm:
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 6th, 2025 at 10:02am
https://youtu.be/TlGsIs0hk2s
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by aquascoot on Aug 6th, 2025 at 10:18am Frank wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 9:39am:
Excellent post Frank. I note that nearly all the left post things like Melania is going to need dark glasses tomorrow after Trump bashes her. Gweggy of course says it's well known he rapes her. They all agree she has to be paid to appear with him. Where is their evidence. Where is she going on Oprah like bill gates wife saying how disgusting her husband is. Where is the kids standing up for their mum if this were true. They seem a close and fairly functional family. I think the left just repeat lying possip so much They believe it to be true. Oh Trump is putins puppet. Putin has a piss tape. Now we have Trump staring down putin. Even going to India and telling them they can't buy Russian oil It's just gossip they convince themselves is true Amazing lack of self examination |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 6th, 2025 at 10:19am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlGsIs0hk2s
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 6th, 2025 at 10:30am ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 7:45am:
References to the influences of Freud and Nietzsche are apt. They are signposts that are present in any discussion on 'man's soul' in the modern era. They are not the only influeences but they are very significant when psycho-political matters are the topic. Marx was, in his own inflated self-estimation, a scientist of history and economics. Nietzsche and Freud looked below that mechanical surface into modern man's soul, more artistically than scientifically (pace Feud). As did many others at their direct and indirect prompting since. As every schoolboy knows if he has read more of and about them than what can be gleaned from Wiki. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 6th, 2025 at 10:33am What the hell is the rapist doing with his hand in this photo? :-/ |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by John Smith on Aug 6th, 2025 at 10:37am Frank wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 10:00am:
no he's not. Sure Greg said it ... but horseboy has mentioned it a hundred times since, no matter the topic |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 6th, 2025 at 10:44am John Smith wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 10:37am:
You are lying too. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 6th, 2025 at 11:19am Frank wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 9:39am:
The irony here is thick enough to bottle. You're lamenting the supposed "dehumanisation" and "demonisation" tactics of the Left while defending a movement that worships a man credibly accused of rape, who brags about sexual assault, walks in on naked teenagers, and pals around with a convicted child trafficker. Spare us the high-minded lectures on civility and moral discourse. Your entire post is a masterclass in projection. You whine about degradation and humiliation while aligning yourself with a political cult that mock disabled people, chant "lock her up", call women "nasty", immigrants "animals", and political opponents "vermin". The Trumpist right perfected the politics of cruelty, and now you want to pretend you're shocked that people aren't politely debating whether a sex offender in the Oval Office should be held accountable? Dragging Solzhenitsyn into this is pure farce. The man warned against totalitarianism, not against calling out predators or the moral rot of political fanbases. You're not referencing him because you understand him, you're using his name as intellectual camouflage to dress up your complicity. Just like Scoot. And the idea that calling out Trump's abuses is somehow Soviet-style "psychological warfare" is utterly deranged. No one is rounding up Trump supporters and sending them to gulags. They're being criticised because they're at best minimising child sexual abuse and at worst, flat out defending it, and you can't handle that. You talk about the "loss of loyal opposition", but where was that when your side was cheering seditionists storming the Capitol? Where was it when Trump tried to overthrow an election and install himself as dictator? You don't get to plead for civility after helping torch the rules of the game. This isn't a debate club. The truth is, you're upset that people are no longer afraid to speak plainly about what your movement has become. You mistake moral clarity for incivility and outrage for oppression. You're not being silenced, you're being held accountable. And it's about damn time. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 6th, 2025 at 11:23am ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 11:19am:
Lemme stop you there. There is no worship, thrre is no lamenting. There is no irony nor lectures. Try to reign in those rampant emotions, running away with the rhetorical bombast and hyperbole. Try again. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Marla on Aug 6th, 2025 at 11:24am ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 11:19am:
Although that's not a bad idea. Many of his supporters would be right at home in one. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 6th, 2025 at 11:37am ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 11:19am:
:D :D :D A masterclass is a conscious, structured delivery. Projection is an unconscious process. Stop being bombastic and ignorant at the same time. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by John Smith on Aug 6th, 2025 at 11:46am Frank wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 10:44am:
you're still an idiot |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 6th, 2025 at 11:55am ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 11:19am:
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 6th, 2025 at 12:34pm Frank wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 10:00am:
You're going to need to do better than an out-of-context quote replying to you, excusing Trump and Epstein's child abuse, "because Muslims". |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 6th, 2025 at 12:37pm Frank wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 11:37am:
You're going to have to do better than the same tired one-liner you trot out every time you're exposed. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 6th, 2025 at 12:44pm
Seems like the moral of the story at the moment for you, Frank, is:
"Do better" |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 6th, 2025 at 12:45pm Frank wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 11:23am:
Too afraid to address, just a limp wristed attempt to dismiss. Do better. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 6th, 2025 at 1:56pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 12:45pm:
"The more exquisite the packaging, the more dubious the content". That addresses your long-winded over-wrought posts. The only content is emotional distress, dressed up in erratic hyperbole and self-righteous preening. In short, it is a long-winded self-disclosure about your emotional distress and mania. You and creepy gweggy are sitting in Australian suburbs and are so consumed by 'Trump' as a talking point (that's all he is to you) that you notice almost nothing else about the world, or if yiou do, it is through your TDS lens. Trump is your dermatillomania. You cannot stop scratching. It consumes you, the scratching at your 'Trump'. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by lee on Aug 6th, 2025 at 2:17pm John Smith wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 8:10pm:
You tell us, know all. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by lee on Aug 6th, 2025 at 2:23pm
Posted by: greggerypeccary Mark & Quote Posted on: Today at 9:55am
From Elon Musk saying Trump is in the Epstein file. That's really, really old news. You make it sound like it is a new revelation. ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by aquascoot on Aug 6th, 2025 at 2:28pm Frank wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 1:56pm:
A great analysis. They would pay several hundred dollars to a specialist for such wise advice. They should be asking you for an invoice. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 6th, 2025 at 2:31pm Frank wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 1:56pm:
It's long therefore bad and you'll ignore it. Why am I not surprised that you're intimidated by long things... |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 6th, 2025 at 2:41pm lee wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 2:23pm:
Epstein was raping kids decades ago. Are you now suggesting that we shouldn't mention it because it's "really old news"? My advice to you: stop defending paedophiles and rapists. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 6th, 2025 at 3:16pm Quote:
Never mind length, feel the lack of quality, to coin a phrase. War and Peace is long but it isn't vacuous, neurotic hyperbole. You are emoting neurotically, at length. It's not intimidating, it's long-winded, predictably over-wrought waffle. Anything Trump says or does upsets you. - that's all you are saying in 200 words when the content is expressible in 10. You are trying to be sophisticated but you are just a pompous vulgarian to gweggy creep's despicable vulgarian. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 6th, 2025 at 3:19pm Frank wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 3:16pm:
My advice to you: stop defending paedophiles and rapists. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by lee on Aug 6th, 2025 at 3:37pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 2:41pm:
No pet. But I do wish you would update your posts. Remember you couldn't be a little girl forever. ;) "My advice to you: stop defending paedophiles and rapists." Risible. ;) |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 6th, 2025 at 4:01pm Frank wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 3:16pm:
You and Scoot were LARPing as intellectuals, dropping names like Freud, Nietzsche, and Solzhenitsyn, not to engage with their work, but to parade a shallow, bastardised version of it in service of your prefab narratives. But the second someone meets your cosplay with an actual intellectual rebuttal, you collapse into your usual cowardice of ignore, deflect and insult, this time with an added layer of whimpering self-victimisation. If you want to be taken seriously, try graduating from the illusion of depth. Mimicking insight and reasoned discourse is not the same as doing the work. Stop pretending you're operating on that level when every time you're challenged by someone who actually is, you fold like wet tissue. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 6th, 2025 at 4:57pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 4:01pm:
Oh, sorry, I missed that. Could you point it out for us, please. The 'actual intellectual rebuttal' bit. Ta. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by lee on Aug 6th, 2025 at 5:27pm
Waffles are intellectual, you know. How he waffles. ;)
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Leroy on Aug 6th, 2025 at 5:28pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 4:01pm:
You must be the life of parties, your so cool. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:44pm |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by John Smith on Aug 6th, 2025 at 7:28pm |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 6th, 2025 at 7:46pm Leroy wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 5:28pm:
You're* And I am, thank you :D |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 6th, 2025 at 7:48pm Frank wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 4:57pm:
Keep trying to dodge, it's all you've got left when you're not trying to defend the indefensible. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 7th, 2025 at 11:41am ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 7:48pm:
So where's the 'actual intellectual rebuttal'. I am really interested in what you thought was your 'intellectual' content. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:22pm Frank wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 11:41am:
Let's be honest, it wouldn't matter what I pointed to. You'd still dismiss it with some smug deflection or personal swipe. That's your entire shtick. You don't engage, you perform, mostly for your own sense of superiority. But despite your habit of bad faith and your refusal to engage honestly with anyone who doesn't echo your worldview, I'll humour you. The post I made in response to you was intellectual, not just in tone, but in substance. It was grounded in reasoning, evidence, and ethical argument. It directly addressed your claims, not your character, and it did so without the lazy condescension, projection, and adolescent provocation that typically define your replies. Unlike the usual fare you serve up, where the priority is to posture, insult, and dodge, I actually engaged with what you wrote. I unpacked it. I challenged the ideas on their merits. That's the kind of response you claim to want, until you actually get it, then suddenly the goalposts shift, and we're back to mockery, deflection, and fragile performance. So no, I don't expect you to acknowledge it as an intellectual rebuttal. Not because it wasn't, but because doing so would require you to drop the act for five minutes and actually reckon with what was said. Unless, of course, you've had a rare moment of self-reflection in the past 24 hours? Doubt it. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 7th, 2025 at 2:09pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:22pm:
Your 'intellectual rebuttal' in full: Quote:
Theŕ is a lot of "'you' language, as ever, for someone with intellectual pretentions. If, in addition, one tabulated the verbs and the adjectives, a totally emotionally overwrought picture jumps out. Your claims of intellectual substance is like Bbwiyawn's claims of being more educated than most, evidenced by his contributions of7 ABC headlines and twilight zones - that is, mentally totally negligible contribution devoid of any ideas. He boasts vainly. Your contributions is equally mentally negligible, bereft of any ideas or substance but delivered in a verbose, hyperbolic, emotionally charged manner: Trump gives you dermatillomania and you simply can't stop scratching it. Scratching your Trump-itch is all there is in your 'intellectual' life. Not going along with your emotional hyperbole is NOT 'worshipping' Trump, or covering up, defending, cheering sedition, torching the rules and all the other breathless emoting bollocks that you lay on thick with a trowel. Being a hysteric like you is not moral clarity and disagreeing with you is not the voice of the devil. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Armchair_Politician on Aug 7th, 2025 at 2:20pm Frank wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 2:09pm:
You've not criticised a single one of Trump's truly damaging policy decisions during his second term. Not one. You don't see any problem with him issuing thousands of pardons to January 6 insurrectionists - especially those tried and convicted of violent crimes. You don't see any problem with Trump accepting a plane from Qatar as a personal gift. Yeah, they say it's for the US Dept. of Defence, but the truth it it will end up in Trumps' possession when his term ends. You don't see a problem with him firing the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics just because he doesn't like the jobs numbers she published. Admit it you're a Trump fanatic! |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by John Smith on Aug 7th, 2025 at 2:24pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 2:20pm:
It gets worse Frank still claims the election Trump lost to Biden was 'stolen' :D :D :D :D He's not just a fanatic, he's an imbecile too |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 7th, 2025 at 3:00pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 2:20pm:
Who committed a violent crime but was pardoned for it? When does Airforce One become a personal possetion of an outgoing president? I don't follow every sacking but would be curious as to why there were such wild revisions of labour stats when not even during COVID were there such discrepancies and revisions. If you can show me that these revisions, their magnitude, is routine and not unusual, I will recondider and revise accordingly. In the broader context - not being critical of Trum from the same angle and with the same emotional intensity as you numpties is not being a 'Trump fanatic'. You TDS kids Add to this that most of you with TDS kids are avid Hamas supporters, love the idea of bepenised women, are hot for mass immigration by unassimilating third worlders, seek answer to everything by increased goverment control and expenditure, accept every idiotic shibboleth of the 'first nations' hooeey, love multiculturalism without knowing next to nothing abut other cultures, etc, etc. Why would anyone with a shread of sanity side with you and behave like you? Nuts to that. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 7th, 2025 at 3:14pm Frank wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 2:09pm:
Try to reign in those rampant emotions, running away with the rhetorical bombast and hyperbole. Try again. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 7th, 2025 at 3:24pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 3:14pm:
Are you intellectual now or were you intellectiual in your 'intellectual rebuttal'? |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 7th, 2025 at 3:27pm Frank wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 3:24pm:
I'm dismissing your post like you do to others, and it's somehow your fault. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 7th, 2025 at 7:53pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 3:27pm:
Who said this? Quote:
I am still asking you for the intellectual bit that you boasted about Bbwiyawnesquely. The intellectual reasoning, evidenced and ethical argument you promised. Because what I reposted from you was nothing but another emotionally incontinent rant. Lots of 'you' language, laughably hyperbolic pile of verbiage over-egged, as usual, with manic adjectives. It's gist : Trump's given you mental dermatillomania. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 7th, 2025 at 8:56pm Frank wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 7:53pm:
I called it of course, ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:22pm:
The rest is just smug bombastic gaseous waffle. Try again. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by John Smith on Aug 7th, 2025 at 10:25pm
has Frank had a heart attack yet? He can't be to far away now.
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Karnal on Aug 8th, 2025 at 12:18am John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 10:25pm:
The poor thing hasn't been with us since 2007, peace be upon him. I blame Islam. There is no God but Allah, no? |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by lee on Aug 8th, 2025 at 1:14pm Melanias purse wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 12:18am:
He/She has many names. That is why there are many houses in heaven. One for each faith, yes even the pagans, they have their own gods. ;) |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by Frank on Aug 8th, 2025 at 1:17pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 8:56pm:
Don't try to flatter me by imitating me. Try thinking for yorself for once. In under 200 flowery words. |
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Title: Re: Trump literally (almost) shoots the messenger! Post by ProudKangaroo on Aug 8th, 2025 at 2:01pm Frank wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 1:17pm:
Gasious waffle. |
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