“There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.”

“They made it up. It wasn’t true.”

Gabbard laid out the full scheme: 

“They used fake sources, suppressed real intel, and ignored standard tradecraft to push a lie.  They conspired with the media to undermine President Trump and launched a years-long coup against his administration.  This should concern every American. It’s not about party—it’s about our democracy.”

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1948129322054848558

That wasn’t conjecture.

That was the U.S. Director of National Intelligence, standing in the White House, telling the American public that a sitting president weaponized the intelligence community to interfere in a presidential election—and take down his successor.

The paper trail is now public.

“We’re here today because the American people deserve the truth, they deserve accountability, and they deserve justice.”

She outlined three separate data points now declassified and available for anyone to read: ODNI records, the DOJ’s “Clinton Annex,” and a full oversight report from the House Intelligence Committee.

“All come back to and confirm the same thing.  There was a gross politicization and manipulation of intelligence by the Obama administration, intended to delegitimize President Trump even before he was inaugurated, ultimately usurping the will of the American people.”

And now, it’s all on the table for the American people to see.

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1948130119010124125

But Gabbard wasn’t finished.

She turned next to Hillary Clinton.

And to a revelation that changes the entire framing of 2016.

Gabbard laid out how according to the report, Vladimir Putin withheld the most damaging material he had on Hillary Clinton....because he believed she was going to win.

CRIMINAL material.

“I’m going to go over the key findings from the House Intelligence report, which investigated the claims that were made by an intelligence community assessment ordered by President Obama and published in January of 2017.”

“First, Putin’s principal interest relating to the 2016 election were to undermine faith in the U.S. Democratic election process, not show preference of a certain candidate.”

“In fact, this report shows Putin held back from leaking compromising material on Hillary Clinton prior to the election, instead planning to release it after the election to weaken what Moscow viewed as an inevitable Clinton presidency.”

But the real scandal wasn’t just what Putin had.

It’s what the Obama administration did to hide it.

“In the January 2017 intelligence assessment that president Obama ordered, John Brennan, who was CIA director at the time, and the intelligence community intentionally suppressed intelligence that showed Putin was saving the MOST damaging material he had in his possession about Hillary Clinton until after her potential and likely victory.”

And the content of that dirt? Nothing short of explosive.

“The report goes into great detail about the information Russia and Putin had on Hillary Clinton, which included possible criminal acts, like secret meetings with multiple named U.S. religious organizations, in which State Department officials offered in exchange for supporting Secretary Clinton’s campaign for the presidency, significant increases in financing from the State Department.”

They had the information. They buried it.

And they lied about what Russia’s intentions were.

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1948131226876858401

Trump - "Quick, deflect, deflect, deflect!!! We've gotta put a stupid ass story out there, y'all. We need to throw the press off the scent, because it's harming my image as a stable genius!!!"

*Alert* *alert* all lefties present to defend Obama.

The First Arrest will Shock the World… 🌎

Tick Tock…

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 9:49am:

Trump - "Quick, deflect, deflect, deflect!!! We've gotta put a stupid ass story out there, y'all. We need to throw the press off the scent, because it's harming my image as a stable genius!!!"

How many damning threads do we have on Trump on the 'America' forum? Dozens and dozens.
Does one thread on O'Bama throw you complely? Outweighs all the Trump mud raking?


Head back in the sand, quick. A thread where Trump isn't the villain!! How very dare they?!?



https://youtu.be/ufzQakVql10?si=5Rer9l9NYRjZ4S7K

Frank wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 10:06am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:49am: Trump - "Quick, deflect, deflect, deflect!!! We've gotta put a stupid ass story out there, y'all. We need to throw the press off the scent, because it's harming my image as a stable genius!!!" How many damning threads do we have on Trump on the 'America' forum? Dozens and dozens. Does one thread on O'Bama throw you complely? Outweighs all the Trump mud raking? Head back in the sand, quick. A thread where Trump isn't the villain!! How very dare they?!? https://youtu.be/ufzQakVql10?si=5Rer9l9NYRjZ4S7K

His name is spelt Obama, not O'Bama.

Frank wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 9:33am:

“There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.” “They made it up. It wasn’t true.” Gabbard laid out the full scheme:  “They used fake sources, suppressed real intel, and ignored standard tradecraft to push a lie.  They conspired with the media to undermine President Trump and launched a years-long coup against his administration.  This should concern every American. It’s not about party—it’s about our democracy.” https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1948129322054848558

That's a theory - not "IRREFUTABLE evidence".

Just saying something doesn't make it true, Frannie.

ruzzia helped Trumpy aka TACO this election too. Trumpy is almost a ruzzian asset!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pvvStBbGgo

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 10:24am:

ruzzia helped Trumpy aka TACO this election too. Trumpy is almost a ruzzian asset!

And Gabbard 100% is.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 10:19am:

Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:33am: “There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.” “They made it up. It wasn’t true.” Gabbard laid out the full scheme:  “They used fake sources, suppressed real intel, and ignored standard tradecraft to push a lie.  They conspired with the media to undermine President Trump and launched a years-long coup against his administration.  This should concern every American. It’s not about party—it’s about our democracy.” https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1948129322054848558 That's a theory - not "IRREFUTABLE evidence". Just saying something doesn't make it true, Frannie.

Declassified HPSCI Report on the Manufactured Russia Hoax

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/dig/4089-declassified-hpsci-report-on-the-manufactured-russia-hoax



Declassified Evidence of Obama Administration Conspiracy to Subvert President Trump’s 2016 Victory and Presidency
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/dig/4085-dig-obama-conspiracy-to-subvert-president-trump-victory



New Evidence Uncovers Obama-Directed Creation of False Intelligence Report Used to Launch Years-long Coup to Undermine President Trump and the American People
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/press-releases-2025/4090-pr-18-25

Below are key findings from the HPSCI oversight report:

Putin’s principal interests relating to the 2016 election were to undermine faith in the US democratic process, not showing any preference of a certain candidate.
Putin chose not to leak the most damaging and compromising material on Hillary Clinton prior to the election; instead planning to release it after the election to weaken what Moscow viewed would be an inevitable Clinton presidency. If Russia wanted to help Donald Trump get elected, they would have released this material prior to the election to harm the Clinton campaign.
The material about Hilliary Clinton that Putin chose not to release before the election, included possible criminal acts, including:
“Details of secret meetings with multiple named US religious organizations, in which State Department representatives offered – in exchange for supporting Secretary Clinton – “significant increases in financing” from Department funds and “the patronage” of State in dealing with ‘post-Soviet countries.”
DNC emails detailing that Hillary Clinton suffered from “psycho-emotional problems,” “uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression, and cheerfulness.” Clinton was allegedly on a daily regimen of “heavy tranquilizers,” and while she was afraid of losing, she remained “obsessed with a thirst for power.”
CIA Director Brennan and the IC mischaracterized intelligence and relied on dubious, “substandard” sources to create a contrived false narrative that Putin developed “a clear preference” for Trump.
CIA Director Brennan and the IC misled lawmakers by referencing the debunked Steele Dossier to assess “Russian plans and intentions,” which falsely suggested the dossier had intelligence value.
The IC excluded “significant intelligence” and “ignored or selectively quoted” reliable intelligence that contradicted the ICA’s key findings on Putin’s alleged support for Trump, that if included, would have exposed the ICA’s claim was “implausible—if not ridiculous.”
The ICA omitted reliably sourced information, such as how some Russian intelligence officials were “planning for candidate Clinton’s victory” while others assessed “neither Trump nor Clinton” would respect Russian interests.
As reflected in ODNI documents released on July 18, multiple IC assessments released in the months leading up to the November 2016 elections assessed that Russia had neither the intent nor capability to impact the outcome of the US election.

On December 5, 2016, the FBI and ODNI gave HPSCI its first post-election classified briefing, in which there was “no mention of Putin ‘aspiring’ to elect Trump” by either agency.
The President’s Daily Brief (PDB) drafted on December 8, 2016 stated that no Russian or criminal actors impacted vote counts. This document was pulled hours before it was to be published due to “new guidance.” If it had been published, it would have been briefed to both President Obama and President-elect Donald Trump.
On December 9, 2016, a National Security Council meeting was called with President Obama’s senior national security officials, which included CIA Director John Brennan, DNI James Clapper, Susan Rice, Andrew McCabe and others.
After the December 9, 2016 secret meeting of Obama national security officials, DNI Clapper’s assistant sent an email to leaders in the IC with the subject line “POTUS tasking on Russia Election Meddling,” and tasking to create a new “assessment per the President’s request.”
The HPSCI oversight report reveals that, “unlike routine IC analysis, the ICA was a high-profile product ordered by the President, directed by senior IC agency heads, and created by just five analysts, using one principal drafter. Production of the ICA was subject to unusual directives from the President and senior political appointees, and particularly DCIA.”
Later that same day, Brennan ordered the inclusion of “substandard reporting” on Russian activities, which had previously been withheld from publication because the information was judged “to have not met longstanding publication standards.” Some of the information was, later used in the ICA, over the objections of veteran CIA officers, because it was “unclear, or from unknown subsources.”
CIA Director Brennan overruled senior CIA officers who challenged the ICA’s claims, stating “we don’t have direct information that Putin wanted to get Trump elected.
Yet, the Obama-directed ICA published on January 6, 2017 explicitly stated: “We assess Putin and the Russian government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him.” The CIA and FBI expressed high confidence in this judgment, while the NSA held moderate confidence.
However, the HPSCI report reveals “the ICA did not cite any report where Putin directly indicated helping Trump win was the objective.”

Steele Dossier
We now know one of the source documents the Obama Administration officials used in the creation of the January 2017 ICA was the discredited, unverified Steele Dossier.

HPSCI report states: “Contradicting public claims by the DCIA [Brennan] that the dossier ‘was not in any way’ incorporated into the ICA, the dossier was referenced in the ICA main body text and further detailed in a two-page ICA annex.”
John Brennan lied and denied using the dossier in the ICA because he knew it was a discredited, politically motivated manufactured document. He told senior CIA officials to use it anyway.

CIA officer to HPSCI staff: “DCIA [Brennan] refused to remove it, and when confronted with the dossier’s main flaws, [Brennan] responded, ‘Yes, but doesn’t it ring true?’”
The bipartisan Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) report (Volume 5, 2020) also criticized the FBI’s handling of the Steele Dossier, noting its completely unverified nature and purposeful sidestepping of IC procedure in its use.

“High Confidence”
President Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey and others, along with their mouthpieces in the media, knowingly lied as they repeated the contrived false narrative they created in the January 2017 ICA with “high confidence” as though it were fact.

Obama’s CIA Director, Brennan stated in a memo to agency staff in December 2016, “There is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election.”
Obama’s Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper was tasked with overseeing the creation of the January 2017 ICA and expressed confidence in its findings. In a 2018 interview with the Harvard Gazette, he said, “We provided Trump the same classified assessment that President Obama received,” which included the high-confidence judgment that “Putin directly ordered the hacking and election interference.” Clapper further noted, “I think they [Russians] actually influenced the outcome,” indicating his personal belief in the ICA’s conclusions.
The HPSCI report was updated several times as the Committee received new information, with the most recent version dated September 2020.

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/press-releases-2025/4090-pr-18-25

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 10:19am:

Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:33am: “There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.” “They made it up. It wasn’t true.” Gabbard laid out the full scheme:  “They used fake sources, suppressed real intel, and ignored standard tradecraft to push a lie.  They conspired with the media to undermine President Trump and launched a years-long coup against his administration.  This should concern every American. It’s not about party—it’s about our democracy.” https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1948129322054848558 That's a theory - not "IRREFUTABLE evidence". Just saying something doesn't make it true, Frannie.

If, as Trump claims, he has Obama "stone cold", then take him to Court. If he's so confident there's enough supposed evidence, then take it to Court without delay. Put up, or shut up! Of course, we all know it won't make it that far, because Trump has diddlysquat and it's just another pathetic attempt to distract from his growing Epstein problems that just won't go away.

Barry Hussein Soetoro

AKA

Renegade

Renegade - Hussein’s SS code name

Meaning - A person who deserts or betrays an organization, group, or set of principles; a traitor or defector. For example, someone who abandons their allegiance or duty.

**"Revelation of the Method."**

This concept suggests that those in power or within secretive groups deliberately disclose their actions—often through media, symbolism, or public events—to the masses, but in a way that is coded or obscure. The idea is that by revealing their deeds indirectly, they believe they avoid karmic consequences or gain a form of consent through public apathy or ignorance, thus strengthening their control.

Frank wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 9:33am:

“There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.”

I wonder if you're posting all of this because the bombshell dropped that Trump is in fact on the "Epstein list"...

(technically, all over the Epstein files, but everyone is using "Epstein List")

Murdoch holds the strong hand now, and Trump? He's cooked. That weak grip on the narrative is slipping fast, and it's only going to get uglier from here.

So what do the loyalists like Frank do? What they always do, deflect, distract, derail. Suddenly it's all Obama this, Michelle that, Hunter's laptop, gay frogs, lizard people. Anything but the fact their idol is neck-deep in the very scandal they used to scream about from the rooftops.

The desperation is off the charts now. You can smell it.

Frank, I hope you've lined up a psych appointment, mate. Because the cognitive whiplash from watching your messiah tangled up in Epstein's filth is going to sting.

The cover-up's failed. The leaks are coming thick and fast.  Trump's name is there, and no amount of whataboutism or finger-pointing can change that.


Quote:

Justice Department Told Trump in May That His Name Is Among Many in the Epstein Files Bondi also told president at the meeting that Justice decided to not release more Jeffrey Epstein documents because of the presence of child pornography and the need to protect victims Link

Is frank still pretending Trumps name isn't on the Epstein list? That it's all a Hillary/Biden conspiracy?  :D :D :D :D

The benchmark for dumb cover-ups used to be Watergate...

But Trump’s panicked effort to bury the truth about his ties to Epstein makes Watergate look like a meticulously orchestrated operation that only failed due to sheer bad luck.

Nixon had tapes, yes, but at least he had a plan. Trump has nothing but denial, deflection, and a propaganda machine trying to memory-hole the fact that he’s everywhere in the Epstein files.

Compared to Trump’s trainwreck, Watergate now looks like the gold standard in cover-ups, even if it failed.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 11:20am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 10:19am: Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:33am: “There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.” “They made it up. It wasn’t true.” Gabbard laid out the full scheme:  “They used fake sources, suppressed real intel, and ignored standard tradecraft to push a lie.  They conspired with the media to undermine President Trump and launched a years-long coup against his administration.  This should concern every American. It’s not about party—it’s about our democracy.” https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1948129322054848558 That's a theory - not "IRREFUTABLE evidence". Just saying something doesn't make it true, Frannie. If, as Trump claims, he has Obama "stone cold", then take him to Court. If he's so confident there's enough supposed evidence, then take it to Court without delay. Put up, or shut up! Of course, we all know it won't make it that far, because Trump has diddlysquat and it's just another pathetic attempt to distract from his growing Epstein problems that just won't go away.

Indeed.

He's full of poo, as usual.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 3:35pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 11:20am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 10:19am: Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:33am: “There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.” “They made it up. It wasn’t true.” Gabbard laid out the full scheme:  “They used fake sources, suppressed real intel, and ignored standard tradecraft to push a lie.  They conspired with the media to undermine President Trump and launched a years-long coup against his administration.  This should concern every American. It’s not about party—it’s about our democracy.” https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1948129322054848558 That's a theory - not "IRREFUTABLE evidence". Just saying something doesn't make it true, Frannie. If, as Trump claims, he has Obama "stone cold", then take him to Court. If he's so confident there's enough supposed evidence, then take it to Court without delay. Put up, or shut up! Of course, we all know it won't make it that far, because Trump has diddlysquat and it's just another pathetic attempt to distract from his growing Epstein problems that just won't go away. Indeed. He's full of poo, as usual.

You heard it here first! In his latest, increasingly desperate attempt to divert attention away from his Epstein paedophile ring links, Trump is expected to shortly announce a Trump resort on Mars. No, it won’t be financed by Elon Musk. It will be financed by his arch nemesis - Jeff Bezos and his Blue Origin organisation. Bezos got the deal over the line with Trump by promising to change his company name to Orange Origin.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 12:28pm:

The benchmark for dumb cover-ups used to be Watergate... But Trump’s panicked effort to bury the truth about his ties to Epstein makes Watergate look like a meticulously orchestrated operation that only failed due to sheer bad luck.

Ohh, I don't know about that one. Frank still thinks the election v biden was stolen :D :D

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 12:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:33am: “There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.” I wonder if you're posting all of this because the bombshell dropped that Trump is in fact on the "Epstein list"... (technically, all over the Epstein files, but everyone is using "Epstein List") Murdoch holds the strong hand now, and Trump? He's cooked. That weak grip on the narrative is slipping fast, and it's only going to get uglier from here. So what do the loyalists like Frank do? What they always do, deflect, distract, derail. Suddenly it's all Obama this, Michelle that, Hunter's laptop, gay frogs, lizard people. Anything but the fact their idol is neck-deep in the very scandal they used to scream about from the rooftops. The desperation is off the charts now. You can smell it. Frank, I hope you've lined up a psych appointment, mate. Because the cognitive whiplash from watching your messiah tangled up in Epstein's filth is going to sting. The cover-up's failed. The leaks are coming thick and fast.  Trump's name is there, and no amount of whataboutism or finger-pointing can change that. Quote: Justice Department Told Trump in May That His Name Is Among Many in the Epstein Files Bondi also told president at the meeting that Justice decided to not release more Jeffrey Epstein documents because of the presence of child pornography and the need to protect victims Link

Not everyone who knew Epstein is thereby guilty of something.

How big is the 'Epstein file'? How long does it go back? What is in it? How much of it was used to convict Maxwell? How much of it was NOT used? You don't know. I don't know.
We have some flight manifests and we know that much of the stuff is sealed by courts.


But we do know that  O'Bama and his cronies HAVE been referred to the DOJ.  That the Russia hoax was a hoax we ha very known for a long time. Durham reposed on it. He just left out O'Bama andComey and Hillary and the rest of the guys who cooked it ul and pedalled into a no-questions-asked mainstream media.

They couldn’t believe Trump beat Hillary. Hillary especially couldnt believe it. 

Frank wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 9:37pm:

But we do know that ... the Russia hoax was a hoax ...

Incorrect.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 12:28pm:

The benchmark for dumb cover-ups used to be Watergate... But Trump’s panicked effort to bury the truth about his ties to Epstein makes Watergate look like a meticulously orchestrated operation that only failed due to sheer bad luck. Nixon had tapes, yes, but at least he had a plan. Trump has nothing but denial, deflection, and a propaganda machine trying to memory-hole the fact that he’s everywhere in the Epstein files. Compared to Trump’s trainwreck, Watergate now looks like the gold standard in cover-ups, even if it failed.

Bollocks.


The Epstein wheeze is a distraction by the Dems, now that Trump is again in the WH and is effective.

The Dems didnt carry on about it for 4 years while Bidden was sleeping in the WH. They were busy throwing other dirt but none of it stuck, Trump STILL got reelected. So now it's Epstein, dead for 6 years but pressed into service by the Dems.

Frank wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 9:48pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 12:28pm: The benchmark for dumb cover-ups used to be Watergate... But Trump’s panicked effort to bury the truth about his ties to Epstein makes Watergate look like a meticulously orchestrated operation that only failed due to sheer bad luck. Nixon had tapes, yes, but at least he had a plan. Trump has nothing but denial, deflection, and a propaganda machine trying to memory-hole the fact that he’s everywhere in the Epstein files. Compared to Trump’s trainwreck, Watergate now looks like the gold standard in cover-ups, even if it failed. Bollocks. The Epstein wheeze is a distraction by the Dems, now that Trump is again in the WH and is effective. The Dems didnt carry on about it for 4 years while Bidden was sleeping in the WH. They were busy throwing other dirt but none of it stuck, Trump STILL got reelected. So now it's Epstein, dead for 6 years but pressed into service by the Dems.

Trump ran on the promise that he'd release the Epstein Files.

My oh my, how things have changed now that we know his name is all over them and that he also appears on the flight logs several times.

Bobbi says he was taking the kids to Lolita Island for a family holiday.

Ivanka looks a little nervous.

https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/labeled-16x9-83107f031.jpg

You?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 9:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:48pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 12:28pm: The benchmark for dumb cover-ups used to be Watergate... But Trump’s panicked effort to bury the truth about his ties to Epstein makes Watergate look like a meticulously orchestrated operation that only failed due to sheer bad luck. Nixon had tapes, yes, but at least he had a plan. Trump has nothing but denial, deflection, and a propaganda machine trying to memory-hole the fact that he’s everywhere in the Epstein files. Compared to Trump’s trainwreck, Watergate now looks like the gold standard in cover-ups, even if it failed. Bollocks. The Epstein wheeze is a distraction by the Dems, now that Trump is again in the WH and is effective. The Dems didnt carry on about it for 4 years while Bidden was sleeping in the WH. They were busy throwing other dirt but none of it stuck, Trump STILL got reelected. So now it's Epstein, dead for 6 years but pressed into service by the Dems. Trump ran on the promise that he'd release the Epstein Files. My oh my, how things have changed now that we know his name is all over them and that he also appears on the flight logs several times. Bobbi says he was taking the kids to Lolita Island for a family holiday. Ivanka looks a little nervous. https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/labeled-16x9-83107f031.jpg You?

I know, but Aquascoot says it was just a hip version of the Playboy Mansion, so that's okay.

Ivanka would have been taken good care of, Greggery. Jeff was like an uncle to the Trump kids.

Look, Frank's just curious, that's all. He has lots of pertinent questions about the Epstein files, as you'd expect.

How could the big fella's best friend get arrested for more than 36 child sex offences, but only get sentenced to a year of weekend detention?

Why did the big fella appoint the prosecutor who let Jeff off as a cabinet secretary?

Why did the big fella wish Jeff's accomplice Ghislaine well?

What did the big fella mean when he sent Jeff that birthday letter talking about wonderful secrets?

Alas, Greggery, I guess we'll never know. The big fella's banned the files. Nothing to see here, leftards.

Now that we've settled that, Frank wants to discuss the really important question.

Why hasn't the Kenyan been arrested for releasing an intelligence report into the biggest case of foreign election interference in US history?

You tell me that, leftards.

WITCH HUNT !!!

Frank wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 9:48pm:

The Epstein wheeze is a distraction by the Dems, now that Trump is again in the WH and is effective.

:D :D

someone might actually believe you if it wasn't being driven by Trumps MAGA nuts themselves :D :D

Frank wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 9:37pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 12:06pm: Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:33am: “There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.” I wonder if you're posting all of this because the bombshell dropped that Trump is in fact on the "Epstein list"... (technically, all over the Epstein files, but everyone is using "Epstein List") Murdoch holds the strong hand now, and Trump? He's cooked. That weak grip on the narrative is slipping fast, and it's only going to get uglier from here. So what do the loyalists like Frank do? What they always do, deflect, distract, derail. Suddenly it's all Obama this, Michelle that, Hunter's laptop, gay frogs, lizard people. Anything but the fact their idol is neck-deep in the very scandal they used to scream about from the rooftops. The desperation is off the charts now. You can smell it. Frank, I hope you've lined up a psych appointment, mate. Because the cognitive whiplash from watching your messiah tangled up in Epstein's filth is going to sting. The cover-up's failed. The leaks are coming thick and fast.  Trump's name is there, and no amount of whataboutism or finger-pointing can change that. Quote: Justice Department Told Trump in May That His Name Is Among Many in the Epstein Files Bondi also told president at the meeting that Justice decided to not release more Jeffrey Epstein documents because of the presence of child pornography and the need to protect victims Link Not everyone who knew Epstein is thereby guilty of something. How big is the 'Epstein file'? How long does it go back? What is in it? How much of it was used to convict Maxwell? How much of it was NOT used? You don't know. I don't know. We have some flight manifests and we know that much of the stuff is sealed by courts. But we do know that  O'Bama and his cronies HAVE been referred to the DOJ.  That the Russia hoax was a hoax we ha very known for a long time. Durham reposed on it. He just left out O'Bama andComey and Hillary and the rest of the guys who cooked it ul and pedalled into a no-questions-asked mainstream media. They couldn’t believe Trump beat Hillary. Hillary especially couldnt believe it.

Trump, his campaign, and the MAGA cult were the ones who couldn't shut up about Epstein, his island, and the so-called "list." They weaponised it for years, implying some vast Democratic paedo conspiracy, only for it to boomerang back and splatter all over their messiah.

You don't get to suddenly pivot now and claim it's all a leftist hoax. That dog won't hunt.

Reality has finally caught up, that Trump is on the list, that the documents are real, and that some of them are graphic, you're desperately trying to rewrite the narrative. Are you going to join Scoot in pretending Epstein was some misunderstood socialite, that he "killed himself" because of a Democrat witch hunt, and now you want Ghislaine pardoned so the whole thing can vanish quietly?

Really..?

What happened to "think of the children"? Now it's "think of the party guests"? Apparently, it was all just a few cheeky soirees for the powerful to unwind, let their hair down?

Wake up, Frank. You're not just on the wrong side of history anymore. You're defending paedophiles.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 9:04am:

Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:37pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 12:06pm: Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:33am: “There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.” I wonder if you're posting all of this because the bombshell dropped that Trump is in fact on the "Epstein list"... (technically, all over the Epstein files, but everyone is using "Epstein List") Murdoch holds the strong hand now, and Trump? He's cooked. That weak grip on the narrative is slipping fast, and it's only going to get uglier from here. So what do the loyalists like Frank do? What they always do, deflect, distract, derail. Suddenly it's all Obama this, Michelle that, Hunter's laptop, gay frogs, lizard people. Anything but the fact their idol is neck-deep in the very scandal they used to scream about from the rooftops. The desperation is off the charts now. You can smell it. Frank, I hope you've lined up a psych appointment, mate. Because the cognitive whiplash from watching your messiah tangled up in Epstein's filth is going to sting. The cover-up's failed. The leaks are coming thick and fast.  Trump's name is there, and no amount of whataboutism or finger-pointing can change that. Quote: Justice Department Told Trump in May That His Name Is Among Many in the Epstein Files Bondi also told president at the meeting that Justice decided to not release more Jeffrey Epstein documents because of the presence of child pornography and the need to protect victims Link Not everyone who knew Epstein is thereby guilty of something. How big is the 'Epstein file'? How long does it go back? What is in it? How much of it was used to convict Maxwell? How much of it was NOT used? You don't know. I don't know. We have some flight manifests and we know that much of the stuff is sealed by courts. But we do know that  O'Bama and his cronies HAVE been referred to the DOJ.  That the Russia hoax was a hoax we ha very known for a long time. Durham reposed on it. He just left out O'Bama andComey and Hillary and the rest of the guys who cooked it ul and pedalled into a no-questions-asked mainstream media. They couldn’t believe Trump beat Hillary. Hillary especially couldnt believe it.  Trump, his campaign, and the MAGA cult were the ones who couldn't shut up about Epstein, his island, and the so-called "list." They weaponised it for years, implying some vast Democratic paedo conspiracy, only for it to boomerang back and splatter all over their messiah. You don't get to suddenly pivot now and claim it's all a leftist hoax. That dog won't hunt. Reality has finally caught up, that Trump is on the list, that the documents are real, and that some of them are graphic, you're desperately trying to rewrite the narrative. Are you going to join Scoot in pretending Epstein was some misunderstood socialite, that he "killed himself" because of a Democrat witch hunt, and now you want Ghislaine pardoned so the whole thing can vanish quietly? Really..? What happened to "think of the children"? Now it's "think of the party guests"? Apparently, it was all just a few cheeky soirees for the powerful to unwind, let their hair down? Wake up, Frank. You're not just on the wrong side of history anymore. You're defending paedophiles.

And the alarming thing is, he seems to have no problem with that.

And even worse, he's not alone.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 9:04am:

Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:37pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 12:06pm: Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:33am: “There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.” I wonder if you're posting all of this because the bombshell dropped that Trump is in fact on the "Epstein list"... (technically, all over the Epstein files, but everyone is using "Epstein List") Murdoch holds the strong hand now, and Trump? He's cooked. That weak grip on the narrative is slipping fast, and it's only going to get uglier from here. So what do the loyalists like Frank do? What they always do, deflect, distract, derail. Suddenly it's all Obama this, Michelle that, Hunter's laptop, gay frogs, lizard people. Anything but the fact their idol is neck-deep in the very scandal they used to scream about from the rooftops. The desperation is off the charts now. You can smell it. Frank, I hope you've lined up a psych appointment, mate. Because the cognitive whiplash from watching your messiah tangled up in Epstein's filth is going to sting. The cover-up's failed. The leaks are coming thick and fast.  Trump's name is there, and no amount of whataboutism or finger-pointing can change that. Quote: Justice Department Told Trump in May That His Name Is Among Many in the Epstein Files Bondi also told president at the meeting that Justice decided to not release more Jeffrey Epstein documents because of the presence of child pornography and the need to protect victims Link Not everyone who knew Epstein is thereby guilty of something. How big is the 'Epstein file'? How long does it go back? What is in it? How much of it was used to convict Maxwell? How much of it was NOT used? You don't know. I don't know. We have some flight manifests and we know that much of the stuff is sealed by courts. But we do know that  O'Bama and his cronies HAVE been referred to the DOJ.  That the Russia hoax was a hoax we ha very known for a long time. Durham reposed on it. He just left out O'Bama andComey and Hillary and the rest of the guys who cooked it ul and pedalled into a no-questions-asked mainstream media. They couldn’t believe Trump beat Hillary. Hillary especially couldnt believe it.  Trump, his campaign, and the MAGA cult were the ones who couldn't shut up about Epstein, his island, and the so-called "list." They weaponised it for years, implying some vast Democratic paedo conspiracy, only for it to boomerang back and splatter all over their messiah. You don't get to suddenly pivot now and claim it's all a leftist hoax. That dog won't hunt. Reality has finally caught up, that Trump is on the list, that the documents are real, and that some of them are graphic, you're desperately trying to rewrite the narrative. Are you going to join Scoot in pretending Epstein was some misunderstood socialite, that he "killed himself" because of a Democrat witch hunt, and now you want Ghislaine pardoned so the whole thing can vanish quietly? Really..? What happened to "think of the children"? Now it's "think of the party guests"? Apparently, it was all just a few cheeky soirees for the powerful to unwind, let their hair down? Wake up, Frank. You're not just on the wrong side of history anymore. You're defending paedophiles.

The Dems, while in the WH, said for 4 years that there's nuffin' to see here, move on.

Now that Trump, despite all the Dems' dirty works, is back in the WH the Epstein muck racking is back on the Dem agenda and is important again.
That's the difference.

https://i.postimg.cc/jSGPrLwf/Screenshot-2025-07-25-071017.png

Frank wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 11:10am:

The Dems, while in the WH, said for 4 years that there's nuffin' to see here, move on. Now that Trump, despite all the Dems' dirty works, is back in the WH the Epstein muck racking is back on the Dem agenda and is important again. That's the difference.

If you want to play conspiracy, then why doesn't Trump release the files?

Clear his name?

You know, like he demanded Obama show his birth certificate? 

Do we apply the same logic?  Unless Trump releases the full unedited files, he's hiding something?

Obama has Presidential immunity....Anyway there was no hoax and Trump's administration was investigated whilst he was President....The whole thing is bullshit and a distraction from other matters!!!

::) ::) ::)

Frank wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 11:10am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 9:04am: Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:37pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 12:06pm: Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:33am: “There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.” I wonder if you're posting all of this because the bombshell dropped that Trump is in fact on the "Epstein list"... (technically, all over the Epstein files, but everyone is using "Epstein List") Murdoch holds the strong hand now, and Trump? He's cooked. That weak grip on the narrative is slipping fast, and it's only going to get uglier from here. So what do the loyalists like Frank do? What they always do, deflect, distract, derail. Suddenly it's all Obama this, Michelle that, Hunter's laptop, gay frogs, lizard people. Anything but the fact their idol is neck-deep in the very scandal they used to scream about from the rooftops. The desperation is off the charts now. You can smell it. Frank, I hope you've lined up a psych appointment, mate. Because the cognitive whiplash from watching your messiah tangled up in Epstein's filth is going to sting. The cover-up's failed. The leaks are coming thick and fast.  Trump's name is there, and no amount of whataboutism or finger-pointing can change that. Quote: Justice Department Told Trump in May That His Name Is Among Many in the Epstein Files Bondi also told president at the meeting that Justice decided to not release more Jeffrey Epstein documents because of the presence of child pornography and the need to protect victims Link Not everyone who knew Epstein is thereby guilty of something. How big is the 'Epstein file'? How long does it go back? What is in it? How much of it was used to convict Maxwell? How much of it was NOT used? You don't know. I don't know. We have some flight manifests and we know that much of the stuff is sealed by courts. But we do know that  O'Bama and his cronies HAVE been referred to the DOJ.  That the Russia hoax was a hoax we ha very known for a long time. Durham reposed on it. He just left out O'Bama andComey and Hillary and the rest of the guys who cooked it ul and pedalled into a no-questions-asked mainstream media. They couldn’t believe Trump beat Hillary. Hillary especially couldnt believe it.  Trump, his campaign, and the MAGA cult were the ones who couldn't shut up about Epstein, his island, and the so-called "list." They weaponised it for years, implying some vast Democratic paedo conspiracy, only for it to boomerang back and splatter all over their messiah. You don't get to suddenly pivot now and claim it's all a leftist hoax. That dog won't hunt. Reality has finally caught up, that Trump is on the list, that the documents are real, and that some of them are graphic, you're desperately trying to rewrite the narrative. Are you going to join Scoot in pretending Epstein was some misunderstood socialite, that he "killed himself" because of a Democrat witch hunt, and now you want Ghislaine pardoned so the whole thing can vanish quietly? Really..? What happened to "think of the children"? Now it's "think of the party guests"? Apparently, it was all just a few cheeky soirees for the powerful to unwind, let their hair down? Wake up, Frank. You're not just on the wrong side of history anymore. You're defending paedophiles. The Dems, while in the WH, said for 4 years that there's nuffin' to see here, move on. Now that Trump, despite all the Dems' dirty works, is back in the WH the Epstein muck racking is back on the Dem agenda and is important again. That's the difference.

Trump's in the White House now and his team says the list is on their desk.

Should they release it or not?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 1:04pm:

Obama has Presidential immunity....Anyway there was no hoax and Trump's administration was investigated whilst he was President....The whole thing is bullshit and a distraction from other matters!!! ::) ::) ::)

Indeed it is.

We know that Trump flew on Epstein's Lolita Express at least seven times, and we now know that his name appears in the Epstein Files.

Trump is running scared and he's trying to throw out as many distractions as he can.

If he was innocent, he'd release the files and client list tomorrow.

https://www.insideedition.com/sites/default/files/images/2025-07/072325_trump_epstein_latest_web.jpg

Frank wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 11:10am:

The Dems, while in the WH, said for 4 years that there's nuffin' to see here, move on. Now that Trump, despite all the Dems' dirty works, is back in the WH the Epstein muck racking is back on the Dem agenda and is important again. That's the difference.

more excuses for pedophilies ::)

John Smith wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 1:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 11:10am: The Dems, while in the WH, said for 4 years that there's nuffin' to see here, move on. Now that Trump, despite all the Dems' dirty works, is back in the WH the Epstein muck racking is back on the Dem agenda and is important again. That's the difference. more excuses for pedophilies ::)

Yeah, they never stop.

"What about Biden?  What about this?  What about that?"

Do they care about children and justice or not?

Trump is POTUS now and his team has the list - just release it.

What are they waiting for?

https://www.insideedition.com/sites/default/files/images/2025-07/072325_trump_epstein_latest_web.jpg

John Smith wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 1:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 11:10am: The Dems, while in the WH, said for 4 years that there's nuffin' to see here, move on. Now that Trump, despite all the Dems' dirty works, is back in the WH the Epstein muck racking is back on the Dem agenda and is important again. That's the difference. more excuses for pedophilies ::)

That's a good point.

Scoot and Frank, in their steadfast defence of Trump, have somehow decided to align themselves with one of the most prolific child sexual predators and traffickers to minimise the impact of his deep ties to Trump.

What the bugger!?

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 1:04pm:

Obama has Presidential immunity...

For OFFICIAL acts. So was it an official act?

"Presidential immunity is the concept that a sitting president of the United States has both civil and criminal immunity for their official acts."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_immunity_in_the_United_States

lee wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 3:05pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 1:04pm: Obama has Presidential immunity....Anyway there was no hoax and Trump's administration was investigated whilst he was President....The whole thing is bullshit and a distraction from other matters!!!. For OFFICIAL acts. So was it an official act? "Presidential immunity is the concept that a sitting president of the United States has both civil and criminal immunity for their official acts." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_immunity_in_the_United_States

So what crime did Obama commit....Can you spell it out for us???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 5:58pm:

So what crime did Obama commit....Can you spell it out for us???

You tell us; you were the one spruiking Presidential immunity.

Or you could prove "Anyway there was no hoax ". ;)

lee wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 6:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 5:58pm: So what crime did Obama commit....Can you spell it out for us??? You tell us; you were the one spruiking Presidential immunity. Or you could prove "Anyway there was no hoax ". ;)

What is the crime Obama commited Lee???


Quote:

Gabbard’s Misleading ‘Coup’ Claim

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/07/gabbards-misleading-coup-claim/

::) ::) ::)

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 7:18pm:

lee wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 6:13pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 5:58pm: So what crime did Obama commit....Can you spell it out for us??? You tell us; you were the one spruiking Presidential immunity. Or you could prove "Anyway there was no hoax ". ;) What is the crime Obama commited Lee??? :-? :-? :-?

Treason.
Recent disclosures from Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe revealed that Obama and his top intelligence officials coordinated an information operation against President-elect Donald Trump to falsely paint him as having colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. First, they suppressed a Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB, that concluded that Russia’s election activities did not affect the election. President-elect Trump and his incoming National Security Advisor Mike Flynn would have received a copy of the PDB had the Obama administration not eighty-sixed the final report mere hours before its publication.

Then, at the direction of Obama and under the tight fist of disgraced former CIA Director John Brennan, a small cabal in the intelligence community rushed out the ICA which fraudulently concluded Russia meddled in the election to help Trump win the 2016 presidential election.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/24/exclusive-this-should-not-be-included-read-intelligence-officials-objections-to-extremely-sketchy-steele-dossier/

Frank wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 7:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:18pm: lee wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 6:13pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 5:58pm: So what crime did Obama commit....Can you spell it out for us??? You tell us; you were the one spruiking Presidential immunity. Or you could prove "Anyway there was no hoax ". ;) What is the crime Obama commited Lee??? :-? :-? :-? Treason.

How???


Quote:

Gabbard’s Misleading ‘Coup’ Claim

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/07/gabbards-misleading-coup-claim/

:-? :-? :-?

Frank wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 7:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:18pm: lee wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 6:13pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 5:58pm: So what crime did Obama commit....Can you spell it out for us??? You tell us; you were the one spruiking Presidential immunity. Or you could prove "Anyway there was no hoax ". ;) What is the crime Obama commited Lee??? :-? :-? :-? Treason. Recent disclosures from Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe revealed that Obama and his top intelligence officials coordinated an information operation against President-elect Donald Trump to falsely paint him as having colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. First, they suppressed a Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB, that concluded that Russia’s election activities did not affect the election. President-elect Trump and his incoming National Security Advisor Mike Flynn would have received a copy of the PDB had the Obama administration not eighty-sixed the final report mere hours before its publication. Then, at the direction of Obama and under the tight fist of disgraced former CIA Director John Brennan, a small cabal in the intelligence community rushed out the ICA which fraudulently concluded Russia meddled in the election to help Trump win the 2016 presidential election. https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/24/exclusive-this-should-not-be-included-read-intelligence-officials-objections-to-extremely-sketchy-steele-dossier/

While expansive and broaching numerous subject areas, the biggest takeaway from the document dump is that Obama and several key players — namely, former FBI Director James Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and DNI James Clapper — sought to provide validity to the baseless Clinton-manufactured narrative that Trump colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. One of the main ways they attempted to do this was through the compilation of an Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA), which Obama ordered in early December 2016 to identify “Russian activities and intentions in recent U.S. elections.”

The newly disclosed documents not only dismantle the FBI and CIA’s high confidence claim that a major part of Moscow’s shenanigans in the 2016 contest was “to help President-elect Trump’s election chances,” but that intelligence directly contradicting that narrative was left out of the ICA altogether. What was included in the ICA is unsubstantiated dirt bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign — despite prior claims from the Three Intel Stooges (Brennan, Comey, Clapper) that it wasn’t.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/24/there-was-no-peaceful-transfer-of-power-in-2017/

Peaceful transfer of power, eh??

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 1:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 1:20pm: Frank wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 11:10am: The Dems, while in the WH, said for 4 years that there's nuffin' to see here, move on. Now that Trump, despite all the Dems' dirty works, is back in the WH the Epstein muck racking is back on the Dem agenda and is important again. That's the difference. more excuses for pedophilies ::) That's a good point. Scoot and Frank, in their steadfast defence of Trump, have somehow decided to align themselves with one of the most prolific child sexual predators and traffickers to minimise the impact of his deep ties to Trump. What the bugger!?

From the 'Numpty Watch' dossier, Jan 2020. Hop forward Sad Sack:
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1574552240/609#609
"He isnt a Russian asset but he is a Russian asset."

lee wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 3:05pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 1:04pm: Obama has Presidential immunity... For OFFICIAL acts. So was it an official act? "Presidential immunity is the concept that a sitting president of the United States has both civil and criminal immunity for their official acts." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_immunity_in_the_United_States

Yes, dear, releasing intelligence reports into foreign election interference is known as an official act.

Trying to shut them down is what we call an UNofficial act, designed to cover up high crimes and misdemeanors.

Ever get the feeling you've been farmed?

I want to see the list...... let the truth fall as it lays...

Karnal wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 11:04pm:

Yes, dear, releasing intelligence reports into foreign election interference is known as an official act.

Is it? Why would the public need to know?


"Earlier this year, CIA Director John Ratcliffe tasked Agency career professionals with decades of experience to conduct a lessons-learned review of the procedures and analytic tradecraft employed in the Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) conducted shortly after the 2016 election. Today, Director Ratcliffe declassified the results of this review.

The tradecraft review identified multiple procedural anomalies in the preparation of the 2016 ICA, such as a compressed timeline, uneven access to compartmented information, marginalization of the National Intelligence Council, and excessive involvement of agency heads. The review notes that adhering to established analytic processes and rigorous tradecraft is essential to ensure credibility, objectivity, and accuracy of CIA analysis."

https://www.cia.gov/stories/story/cia-director-john-ratcliffe-declassifies-internal-tradecraft-review/

https://www.cia.gov/static/Tradecraft-Review-2016-ICA-on-Election-Interference-062625.pdf

lee wrote on Jul 26^th, 2025 at 1:11pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 11:04pm: Yes, dear, releasing intelligence reports into foreign election interference is known as an official act. Is it? Why would the public need to know?

Hard to say, Lee. If your intelligence agencies investigated a hack into a major party's email server that was released to influence an election, I think the public would probably want to know.

If it turned out the operation was carried out by the Russian military, which ran a round-the-clock social media campaign, sent Russian operatives in to campaign on US soil and launder money into far-right think tanks and organisations like the NRA, I think they'd want to know that too.

Not you, clearly, but I'd say most of us would be rather curious about that.

Still, most of the intelligence reports came out after the election had been called. Your DL has a few timeline issues there. But his most priceless claim of all is that releasing the reports into Russian interference in 2016 was an attempt to influence the 2020 erection.

Worse - an act of treason.

Here's the big fella confronting Obama with his crimes at Jimmy Carter's funeral.

WITCH HUNT !!!

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 11:39pm:

I want to see the list...... let the truth fall as it lays...

Oh? Why would the public need to know?

Karnal wrote on Jul 26^th, 2025 at 8:49pm:

Still, most of the intelligence reports came out after the election had been called.

"(U) ICD 203 stipulates that analysis be
“independent of political consideration”
and “must not be distorted by, nor shaped
for, advocacy of a particular audience,
agenda, or policy viewpoint.” The election
had concluded, and the ICA was essentially
a post-mortem analysis. Therefore, the
rushed timeline to publish both classified
and unclassified versions before the
presidential transition raised questions
about a potential political motive behind
the White House tasking and timeline."

https://www.cia.gov/static/Tradecraft-Review-2016-ICA-on-Election-Interference-062625.pdf

https://i.postimg.cc/DwJkV8G1/Screenshot-2025-07-27-063356.png

The corporate media have insisted for years that Russia hacked the 2016 election or colluded with Trump to steal it. The hoax was already thoroughly debunked, but documents released by Tulsi Gabbard on Friday revealed that the Obama administration “manufactured” the evidence behind the narrative.

A House report Gabbard declassified on Wednesday further revealed how the Obama administration manipulated the contents of an intelligence report to push the claim that Putin “aspired” to help Trump. The “only classified information” cited as evidence for the assertion was “one scant, unclear, and unverifiable fragment of a sentence” in a “substandard” report. Nonetheless, the corporate media for years acted as willing propaganda arms for the Democrat Party, uncritically and relentlessly peddling the claim that Russia helped Donald Trump win in 2016.

WaPo
CNN
Stephen Colbert, whose unfunny, leftist TV segment The Late Show was recently canceled by CBS, also peddled the hoax.
Jennifer Psaki
Katine Jean Pierre


The New York Times
Not satisfied with being one of the first outlets to tout the Obama intelligence agencies’ lie that Russia tried to get Trump elected, The New York Times was persistent in platforming the narrative throughout Trump’s presidency.

The Times also cast doubts on the 2024 election results. Writers outlined the supposed evolution of Russian strategy from misspelled Facebook posts to an AI-aided assault on democracy across multiple social media sites that also involved China and Iran. “But the broad goal of these efforts has not changed,” the authors wrote. “To sow discord and chaos in hopes of discrediting American democracy in the eyes of the world.”

Today, the paper released stories with headlines “Targeting Obama, Trump’s Retribution Campaign Takes Another Turn” and “Gabbard Releases Documents on Obama White House Amid Epstein Criticism,” attempting to spin Gabbard’s latest revelations against Trump.

As more evidence is released, President Trump seems more determined to bring the perpetrators of what Gabbard calls “the most egregious weaponization and politicization of intelligence in American history” to justice.

“They tried to rig the election, and they got caught, and there should be very severe consequences for them,” he said in a press conference yesterday.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/24/flashback-7-media-mouthpieces-who-repeated-the-lie-that-russia-hacked-the-2016-election/7

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard has declassified a long-buried House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) report exposing the fraud at the heart of the Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) released in January 2017.

That ICA — produced by the CIA, FBI, and NSA at the behest of President Obama — claimed that Vladimir Putin helped Donald Trump win the presidency. It became a weaponized talking point, casting a shadow over Trump’s legitimacy before he even took office.


The HPSCI launched its investigation into the ICA on January 25, 2017, just days after Trump was sworn in. Then-Chairman Devin Nunes, who would later play a pivotal role in unraveling the Russiagate hoax, apparently sensed something was deeply wrong. But the committee’s investigation was met with years of stonewalling and obstruction from intelligence agencies. The report just released dates back to September 2020 but was kept from the public until now. Only now, under Gabbard’s leadership, is it finally seeing the light of day.

And it is explosive.

One key document, newly released by Gabbard just days ago, serves as a critical anchor: the draft President’s Daily Brief (PDB) from Dec. 8, 2016. It stated that Russian activity was “probably intended to cause psychological effects, such as undermining the credibility of the election process and candidates.” Notably, it did not assess that Putin preferred Trump.

Yet, as the new HPSCI report reveals, President Obama had already ordered the creation of the ICA two days earlier, on Dec. 6, before the PDB, and before any intelligence concluded that Putin had a preference. The conclusion came first. The intelligence was bent to match it.

...

The intelligence community had clear evidence that Putin did not prefer Trump. One CIA assessment noted that Russian intelligence had collected damaging material on Hillary Clinton but never released it. If Russia truly wanted Trump to win, why hold back?

Over and over again, the ICA claimed Putin wanted Trump, while the underlying intelligence either said he had no preference or leaned toward Clinton.

Brennan, aided by Comey, engineered the fraudulent core of the ICA — but it was Obama who set the wheels in motion by ordering it in advance, placing him at the foundation of the deception and no less accountable than those who executed it.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/25/john-brennans-5-lies-that-set-russiagate-in-motion/

Frank wrote on Jul 27^th, 2025 at 10:45pm:

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard ...

Lol    ;D

'Gabbard' and 'Intelligence' in the same sentence.

Hilarious.

Frank wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 7:36pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:23pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:18pm: lee wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 6:13pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 5:58pm: So what crime did Obama commit....Can you spell it out for us??? You tell us; you were the one spruiking Presidential immunity. Or you could prove "Anyway there was no hoax ". ;) What is the crime Obama commited Lee??? :-? :-? :-? Treason. Recent disclosures from Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe revealed that Obama and his top intelligence officials coordinated an information operation against President-elect Donald Trump to falsely paint him as having colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. First, they suppressed a Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB, that concluded that Russia’s election activities did not affect the election. President-elect Trump and his incoming National Security Advisor Mike Flynn would have received a copy of the PDB had the Obama administration not eighty-sixed the final report mere hours before its publication. Then, at the direction of Obama and under the tight fist of disgraced former CIA Director John Brennan, a small cabal in the intelligence community rushed out the ICA which fraudulently concluded Russia meddled in the election to help Trump win the 2016 presidential election. https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/24/exclusive-this-should-not-be-included-read-intelligence-officials-objections-to-extremely-sketchy-steele-dossier/ While expansive and broaching numerous subject areas, the biggest takeaway from the document dump is that Obama and several key players — namely, former FBI Director James Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and DNI James Clapper — sought to provide validity to the baseless Clinton-manufactured narrative that Trump colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. One of the main ways they attempted to do this was through the compilation of an Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA), which Obama ordered in early December 2016 to identify “Russian activities and intentions in recent U.S. elections.” The newly disclosed documents not only dismantle the FBI and CIA’s high confidence claim that a major part of Moscow’s shenanigans in the 2016 contest was “to help President-elect Trump’s election chances,” but that intelligence directly contradicting that narrative was left out of the ICA altogether. What was included in the ICA is unsubstantiated dirt bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign — despite prior claims from the Three Intel Stooges (Brennan, Comey, Clapper) that it wasn’t. https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/24/there-was-no-peaceful-transfer-of-power-in-2017/ Peaceful transfer of power, eh??

Ohh no, Obama ordered investigators to 'identify russian activities and intentions in US election' ... you're right frank. How dare he. lock him up


you idiot :D :D :D

https://youtu.be/2dAixOqBHqE?si=U-_9defLxwabKTZ1

John Smith wrote on Jul 27^th, 2025 at 11:30pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:36pm: Frank wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:23pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:18pm: lee wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 6:13pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 5:58pm: So what crime did Obama commit....Can you spell it out for us??? You tell us; you were the one spruiking Presidential immunity. Or you could prove "Anyway there was no hoax ". ;) What is the crime Obama commited Lee??? :-? :-? :-? Treason. Recent disclosures from Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe revealed that Obama and his top intelligence officials coordinated an information operation against President-elect Donald Trump to falsely paint him as having colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. First, they suppressed a Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB, that concluded that Russia’s election activities did not affect the election. President-elect Trump and his incoming National Security Advisor Mike Flynn would have received a copy of the PDB had the Obama administration not eighty-sixed the final report mere hours before its publication. Then, at the direction of Obama and under the tight fist of disgraced former CIA Director John Brennan, a small cabal in the intelligence community rushed out the ICA which fraudulently concluded Russia meddled in the election to help Trump win the 2016 presidential election. https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/24/exclusive-this-should-not-be-included-read-intelligence-officials-objections-to-extremely-sketchy-steele-dossier/ While expansive and broaching numerous subject areas, the biggest takeaway from the document dump is that Obama and several key players — namely, former FBI Director James Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and DNI James Clapper — sought to provide validity to the baseless Clinton-manufactured narrative that Trump colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. One of the main ways they attempted to do this was through the compilation of an Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA), which Obama ordered in early December 2016 to identify “Russian activities and intentions in recent U.S. elections.” The newly disclosed documents not only dismantle the FBI and CIA’s high confidence claim that a major part of Moscow’s shenanigans in the 2016 contest was “to help President-elect Trump’s election chances,” but that intelligence directly contradicting that narrative was left out of the ICA altogether. What was included in the ICA is unsubstantiated dirt bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign — despite prior claims from the Three Intel Stooges (Brennan, Comey, Clapper) that it wasn’t. https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/24/there-was-no-peaceful-transfer-of-power-in-2017/ Peaceful transfer of power, eh?? Ohh no, Obama ordered investigators to 'identify russian activities and intentions in US election' ... you're right frank. How dare he. lock him up you idiot :D :D :D

He'll do anything to distract from the Epstein cover up.

https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/labeled-16x9-83107f031.jpg

Ivanka looks nervous.

John Smith wrote on Jul 27^th, 2025 at 11:30pm:

Ohh no, Obama ordered investigators to 'identify russian activities and intentions in US election' ... you're right frank. How dare he. lock him up you idiot :D :D :D

You don't understand, as usual, thicko.

"On December 9, 2016, a National Security Council meeting was called with President Obama’s senior national security officials, which included CIA Director John Brennan, DNI James Clapper, Susan Rice, Andrew McCabe and others.

After the December 9, 2016 secret meeting of Obama national security officials, DNI Clapper’s assistant sent an email to leaders in the IC with the subject line “POTUS tasking on Russia Election Meddling,” and tasking to create a new “assessment per the President’s request.”

The HPSCI oversight report reveals that, “unlike routine IC analysis, the ICA was a high-profile product ordered by the President, directed by senior IC agency heads, and created by just five analysts, using one principal drafter. Production of the ICA was subject to unusual directives from the President and senior political appointees, and particularly DCIA.”

Later that same day, Brennan ordered the inclusion of “substandard reporting” on Russian activities, which had previously been withheld from publication because the information was judged “to have not met longstanding publication standards.” Some of the information was later used in the ICA, over the objections of veteran CIA officers, because it was “unclear, or from unknown subsources.”


A suspicion long held among some close observers of the Russia kompromat conspiracy that dogged Donald Trump’s first term was that it originated from much higher levels within the government than was previously exposed – with reporters like Lee Smith at Tablet chasing down evidence that then-President Obama himself was not just aware of the moves, but called for a new report to be drafted, one which was ultimately based on shoddy evidence with utterly debunked claims.

...
If you wanted a summary of the years-long battle between the intel community’s public spokesmen and the Russiagate skeptics, you could do little better than this quote regarding the infamous Steele Dossier contained within the report. After confronted by a CIA officer who opposed its inclusion based on its obvious errors and outrageous claims, “DCIA [John Brennan] refused to remove it, and when confronted with the dossier’s main flaws, [Brennan] responded, ‘Yes, but doesn’t it ring true?’”

To paraphrase Ronald Coase, if you torture the intelligence long enough, it will confess to anything. The old George Costanza line is a decidedly dangerous way for any intelligence apparatus to behave when it comes to what they say to the public: “It’s not a lie, if you believe it.” And that’s what Brennan et al are still doing today.

https://thespectator.com/topic/high-russiagate-farce-originate-tulsi-gabbard/

A suspicion long held among some close observers of the Russia kompromat conspiracy that dogged Donald Trump’s first term was that it originated from much higher levels within the government than was previously exposed – with reporters like Lee Smith at Tablet chasing down evidence that then-President Obama himself was not just aware of the moves, but called for a new report to be drafted, one which was ultimately based on shoddy evidence with utterly debunked claims.


https://www.tabletmag.com/tags/russiagate

Frank wrote on Jul 25^th, 2025 at 7:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:18pm: lee wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 6:13pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 5:58pm: So what crime did Obama commit....Can you spell it out for us??? You tell us; you were the one spruiking Presidential immunity. Or you could prove "Anyway there was no hoax ". ;) What is the crime Obama commited Lee??? :-? :-? :-? Treason. Recent disclosures from Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe revealed that Obama and his top intelligence officials coordinated an information operation against President-elect Donald Trump to falsely paint him as having colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. First, they suppressed a Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB, that concluded that Russia’s election activities did not affect the election. President-elect Trump and his incoming National Security Advisor Mike Flynn would have received a copy of the PDB had the Obama administration not eighty-sixed the final report mere hours before its publication. Then, at the direction of Obama and under the tight fist of disgraced former CIA Director John Brennan, a small cabal in the intelligence community rushed out the ICA which fraudulently concluded Russia meddled in the election to help Trump win the 2016 presidential election. https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/24/exclusive-this-should-not-be-included-read-intelligence-officials-objections-to-extremely-sketchy-steele-dossier/

The Obama-Biden-Clinton coup was not a victimless crime. What Obama, the outgoing president, in particular, chose to do in concocting the "Russia investigation" was to make impossible regular state-to-state relations with a not unimportant foreign country. One consequence of that was the Russia-Ukraine War, a brutal meat-grinder now in its fourth year. Hundreds of thousands are dead because of what the blood-soaked Obama and Mrs Clinton did. Russia is not just a useful card to play against your political opponent in some stupid lo-grade bus'n'truck tour of House of Cards: it's an actual place in that zone of the State Department maps marked "Rest of the World".

So, okay, Obama and Clinton are war criminals who should be on trial, but not in DC (where they'd walk) but in the Hague.

lee wrote on Jul 27^th, 2025 at 1:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 26th, 2025 at 8:49pm: Still, most of the intelligence reports came out after the election had been called. "(U) ICD 203 stipulates that analysis be “independent of political consideration” and “must not be distorted by, nor shaped for, advocacy of a particular audience, agenda, or policy viewpoint.” The election had concluded, and the ICA was essentially a post-mortem analysis. Therefore, the rushed timeline to publish both classified and unclassified versions before the presidential transition raised questions about a potential political motive behind the White House tasking and timeline." https://www.cia.gov/static/Tradecraft-Review-2016-ICA-on-Election-Interference-062625.pdf

Not like you to try to prove our points, Lee. We normally get a handful of giggles and a quick departure, but I'm curious.

Would you like to answer your own question?

Why would the public need to know which foreign government just hacked and released the email servers of a major political party during a presidential campaign?

When you're done with that, here's another: what kind of government would bury an intelligence report into the biggest case of foreign interference ever uncovered in a US election?

So that's two questions, dear, but here's the challenge. Try to post a reply without giggling and running off.

Cheers.

Frank wrote on Jul 28^th, 2025 at 12:07am:

Frank wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:23pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 7:18pm: lee wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 6:13pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jul 25th, 2025 at 5:58pm: So what crime did Obama commit....Can you spell it out for us??? You tell us; you were the one spruiking Presidential immunity. Or you could prove "Anyway there was no hoax ". ;) What is the crime Obama commited Lee??? :-? :-? :-? Treason. Recent disclosures from Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe revealed that Obama and his top intelligence officials coordinated an information operation against President-elect Donald Trump to falsely paint him as having colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. First, they suppressed a Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB, that concluded that Russia’s election activities did not affect the election. President-elect Trump and his incoming National Security Advisor Mike Flynn would have received a copy of the PDB had the Obama administration not eighty-sixed the final report mere hours before its publication. Then, at the direction of Obama and under the tight fist of disgraced former CIA Director John Brennan, a small cabal in the intelligence community rushed out the ICA which fraudulently concluded Russia meddled in the election to help Trump win the 2016 presidential election. https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/24/exclusive-this-should-not-be-included-read-intelligence-officials-objections-to-extremely-sketchy-steele-dossier/ The Obama-Biden-Clinton coup was not a victimless crime. [highlight]What Obama, the outgoing president, in particular, chose to do in concocting the "Russia investigation" was to make impossible regular state-to-state relations with a not unimportant foreign country . One consequence of that was the Russia-Ukraine War, a brutal meat-grinder now in its fourth year. Hundreds of thousands are dead because of what the blood-soaked Obama and Mrs Clinton did. Russia is not just a useful card to play against your political opponent in some stupid lo-grade bus'n'truck tour of House of Cards: it's an actual place in that zone of the State Department maps marked "Rest of the World". So, okay, Obama and Clinton are war criminals who should be on trial, but not in DC (where they'd walk) but in the Hague.

I say, old boy, that's terrible.

So why did Congress vote to impose sanctions on Russia by a nearly unanimousvote?

419 to 3. The Senate passed the bill 98 to 2, dear. Are you blaming the legislature for Vlad invading Ukraine too?

Hundreds of thousands are dead because of what the blood soaked Congress did, is it?

Well. Marco Rubio begs to differ.

I think that Vladimir Putin's ultimate goal was not the election of one candidate versus another, although he may have personally preferred one candidate. But his ultimate goal was to ensure that whoever was elected the next US president, they did so with their credibility damaged. I also think that he wanted to exploit the already existing divisions in American society for the purpose of forcing us to go through what we're going through right now — investigations, divisive debates, talk about impeachment, and the like.

Little Marco didn't even rule out impeaching your DL. He was of the view that Russian interference needed to be investigated, brought out into the open and exposed, just what you're blaming the Kenyan for. If a US prez was found to have colluded with a foreign state actor in influencing a US election, then yes. It stands to reason Marco supported their impeachment too. He just wanted an independent inquiry first - exactly what the Muller investigation was established to do: an investigation with bi-partisan support.

So I'm curious. Given your views on the treason of Obama, Hillary and Sleepy Joe, what do you have to say about the crimes of those 413 representatives, 98 senators and the Chair of the Senate Enquiry into Russia Russia Russia?

Little Marco is currently your DL's Secretary of State and National Security Advisor.

Thoughts?

Frank wrote on Jul 27^th, 2025 at 11:53pm:

You don't understand, as usual, thicko.

I understand that you are an absolute farken moron ::)

It's funny, isn't it? The only thing keeping Trump out of prison, the same presidential immunity argument his defenders cling to, would also shield Obama, if any of the nonsense you lot keep peddling were even remotely true.

Imagine that. You break precedent chasing conspiracy fantasies about Obama, and in doing so, hand the courts exactly what they need to lock Trump up for the very real crimes he's already been found guilty of.

It's the sort of galaxy-brain self-own you'd expect from the desperate MAGA-tards, flailing from distraction to deflection, doing mental gymnastics to justify defending a man deeply entangled with a known child predator, to the bitter, delusional end.

Frank wrote on Jul 27^th, 2025 at 11:57pm:

A suspicion long held among some close observers of the Russia kompromat conspiracy that dogged Donald Trump’s first term was that it originated from much higher levels within the government than was previously exposed – with reporters like Lee Smith at Tablet chasing down evidence that then-President Obama himself was not just aware of the moves, but called for a new report to be drafted, one which was ultimately based on shoddy evidence with utterly debunked claims. https://www.tabletmag.com/tags/russiagate

So the caretaker prez, after his political opponent won despite all machinations, orders a report in December to discredit Trump with material KNOWN to him and his officials to be shoddy and untrue.

And they call it the 'peaceful transition of power'.

Eight years later, symmetrically, they do everything to cover up the laptop from hell that came to light BEFORE the election. So the Dems lie, invent shoddy crap and talk up BS to hurt their political opponents when an election didn't go their way, then rig an election 4 years later under the cover of Covid, then another four years later they coved up and lied about real evidence to, once again, try to rig the election. Their lies and manipulatons worked in 2020 but didnt work in 2016 and and 2024, insh'allah, as Barack Hussein O'Bama might have said.

Russia.  Obama.  Laptops from hell   ;D

These MAGA morons will do anything to deflect attention away from the Epstein/Trump cover up.

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Frank wrote on Jul 24^th, 2025 at 9:33am:

“There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.” “They made it up. It wasn’t true.” Gabbard laid out the full scheme:  “They used fake sources, suppressed real intel, and ignored standard tradecraft to push a lie.  They conspired with the media to undermine President Trump and launched a years-long coup against his administration.  This should concern every American. It’s not about party—it’s about our democracy.” https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1948129322054848558

Aww you know they cant handle the truth.

This will sure trigger the Ozpol leftists!

Tap wrote on Jul 28^th, 2025 at 11:27am:

[quote author=Frank link=1753313583/0#0 date=1753313583] “There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.”

Nope.

https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/labeled-16x9-83107f031.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28^th, 2025 at 11:44am:

Tap wrote on Jul 28th, 2025 at 11:27am: [quote author=Frank link=1753313583/0#0 date=1753313583] “There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.” Nope. https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/labeled-16x9-83107f031.jpg

See Frank  Pecca triggered immediately Hes so easylly triggered  ;D

Karnal wrote on Jul 28^th, 2025 at 1:05am:

Not like you to try to prove our points, Lee.

So you neither read nor understood. OK. ;)

Tap wrote on Jul 28^th, 2025 at 11:27am:

Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2025 at 9:33am: “There is IRREFUTABLE evidence showing President Obama and his national security team knowingly created a false intelligence report to sell the narrative that Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election.” “They made it up. It wasn’t true.” Gabbard laid out the full scheme:  “They used fake sources, suppressed real intel, and ignored standard tradecraft to push a lie.  They conspired with the media to undermine President Trump and launched a years-long coup against his administration.  This should concern every American. It’s not about party—it’s about our democracy.” https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1948129322054848558 Aww you know they cant handle the truth. This will sure trigger the Ozpol leftists!

That's right. They seem a tad miffed that the current US prez has just been busted as best buddies with a child sex trafficker, Tap.

Sure, they might have been okay with him being a convicted felon, with multiple other charges pending trial. Now he's been caught in an elite child sex trafficking ring, they're totally triggered.

I guess these MAGA leftists never learn, eh?

lee wrote on Jul 28^th, 2025 at 2:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 28th, 2025 at 1:05am: Not like you to try to prove our points, Lee. So you neither read nor understood. OK. ;)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Frank wrote on Jul 28^th, 2025 at 10:34am:

Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 11:57pm: A suspicion long held among some close observers of the Russia kompromat conspiracy that dogged Donald Trump’s first term was that it originated from much higher levels within the government than was previously exposed – with reporters like Lee Smith at Tablet chasing down evidence that then-President Obama himself was not just aware of the moves, but called for a new report to be drafted, one which was ultimately based on shoddy evidence with utterly debunked claims. https://www.tabletmag.com/tags/russiagate So the caretaker prez, after his political opponent won despite all machinations, orders a report in December to discredit Trump with material KNOWN to him and his officials to be shoddy and untrue. And they call it the 'peaceful transition of power'. Eight years later, symmetrically, they do everything to cover up the laptop from hell that came to light BEFORE the election. So the Dems lie, invent shoddy crap and talk up BS to hurt their political opponents when an election didn't go their way, then rig an election 4 years later under the cover of Covid, then another four years later they coved up and lied about real evidence to, once again, try to rig the election. Their lies and manipulatons worked in 2020 but didnt work in 2016 and and 2024, insh'allah, as Barack Hussein O'Bama might have said.

Uncanny how they lie, cover up, talk up BS and rig erections when your DL's in office as prez, no?

Well, that's that. If the leftards can order DEEP STATE investigations when your DL's in charge, why can't the big fella do it?

Yes, that means your DL covered up the investigation into the LAPTOP FROM HELL, Bengazi, Pizzagate, the Kenyan's botched birth certificate and oh -

The Epstein files.

DEEP STATE !!!

Karnal wrote on Jul 28^th, 2025 at 10:35pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2025 at 10:34am: Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 11:57pm: A suspicion long held among some close observers of the Russia kompromat conspiracy that dogged Donald Trump’s first term was that it originated from much higher levels within the government than was previously exposed – with reporters like Lee Smith at Tablet chasing down evidence that then-President Obama himself was not just aware of the moves, but called for a new report to be drafted, one which was ultimately based on shoddy evidence with utterly debunked claims. https://www.tabletmag.com/tags/russiagate So the caretaker prez, after his political opponent won despite all machinations, orders a report in December to discredit Trump with material KNOWN to him and his officials to be shoddy and untrue. And they call it the 'peaceful transition of power'. Eight years later, symmetrically, they do everything to cover up the laptop from hell that came to light BEFORE the election. So the Dems lie, invent shoddy crap and talk up BS to hurt their political opponents when an election didn't go their way, then rig an election 4 years later under the cover of Covid, then another four years later they coved up and lied about real evidence to, once again, try to rig the election. Their lies and manipulatons worked in 2020 but didnt work in 2016 and and 2024, insh'allah, as Barack Hussein O'Bama might have said. Uncanny how they lie, cover up, talk up BS and rig erections when your DL's in office as prez, no? Well, that's that. If the leftards can order DEEP STATE investigations when your DL's in charge, why can't the big fella do it? Yes, that means your DL covered up the investigation into the LAPTOP FROM HELL, Bengazi, Pizzagate, the Kenyan's botched birth certificate and oh - The Epstein files. DEEP STATE !!!

You are squirming incoherently, with your balls nailed to the floor, paki.


You wish you could tap dance.

Frank wrote on Jul 28^th, 2025 at 11:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 28th, 2025 at 10:35pm: Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2025 at 10:34am: Frank wrote on Jul 27th, 2025 at 11:57pm: A suspicion long held among some close observers of the Russia kompromat conspiracy that dogged Donald Trump’s first term was that it originated from much higher levels within the government than was previously exposed – with reporters like Lee Smith at Tablet chasing down evidence that then-President Obama himself was not just aware of the moves, but called for a new report to be drafted, one which was ultimately based on shoddy evidence with utterly debunked claims. https://www.tabletmag.com/tags/russiagate So the caretaker prez, after his political opponent won despite all machinations, orders a report in December to discredit Trump with material KNOWN to him and his officials to be shoddy and untrue. And they call it the 'peaceful transition of power'. Eight years later, symmetrically, they do everything to cover up the laptop from hell that came to light BEFORE the election. So the Dems lie, invent shoddy crap and talk up BS to hurt their political opponents when an election didn't go their way, then rig an election 4 years later under the cover of Covid, then another four years later they coved up and lied about real evidence to, once again, try to rig the election. Their lies and manipulatons worked in 2020 but didnt work in 2016 and and 2024, insh'allah, as Barack Hussein O'Bama might have said. Uncanny how they lie, cover up, talk up BS and rig erections when your DL's in office as prez, no? Well, that's that. If the leftards can order DEEP STATE investigations when your DL's in charge, why can't the big fella do it? Yes, that means your DL covered up the investigation into the LAPTOP FROM HELL, Bengazi, Pizzagate, the Kenyan's botched birth certificate and oh - The Epstein files. DEEP STATE !!! You are squirming incoherently, with your balls nailed to the floor, paki. You wish you could tap dance.

Oh? We're still waiting for your thoughts on Little Marco, dear boy.


Karnal wrote on Jul 28^th, 2025 at 1:39am:

I think that Vladimir Putin's ultimate goal was not the election of one candidate versus another, although he may have personally preferred one candidate. But his ultimate goal was to ensure that whoever was elected the next US president, they did so with their credibility damaged. I also think that he wanted to exploit the already existing divisions in American society for the purpose of forcing us to go through what we're going through right now — investigations, divisive debates, talk about impeachment, and the like.

What's the matter, cat got your tongue?

Karnal wrote on Jul 28^th, 2025 at 10:23pm:

lee wrote on Jul 28th, 2025 at 2:02pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 28th, 2025 at 1:05am: Not like you to try to prove our points, Lee. So you neither read nor understood. OK. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thanks for proving it. ;)

https://i.postimg.cc/0Q2jGXxC/Screenshot-2025-07-29-074435.png

It's amazing how the Democrats went from uber-competent to uber-incompetent in the space of just a matter of years, at least according to Trump. They were so good, they created a fake Russia story. They were so good, they created fake Epstein files. They were so good, they stole the 2020 election from Trump. Then they were so incompetent, they lost last years' Presidential election, giving Trump control of Congress and the White House despite clearly not wanting Trump back in the White House. Damn, those pesky Dems!  :D :D :D :D

Whatever it takes to protect Trump.

It's like the Epstein files are on their desk, in binders handed out to right-wing influencers, then all of a sudden they don't exist, then they do again, but they're a democrat hoax, but they're also real when they show how many times Bill Clinton was on the Island.

All while we're told to keep looking at Obama, Russia, Sugar in Coke, all the other multitude of distractions.

Maga really are stupid... All it takes is giggling some keys and half of them fall for it.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31^st, 2025 at 10:00am:

All it takes is giggling some keys and half of them fall for it.

Hey Lee, Sad's onto you, dear.
. ;D ;D ;D

Karnal wrote on Jul 31^st, 2025 at 11:25am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 10:00am: All it takes is giggling some keys and half of them fall for it. Hey Lee, Sad's onto you, dear. . ;D ;D ;D

It's all Tickle v Giggle, innit.


https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/equality-australia-joins-fight-against-femaleonly-spaces/news-story/c09435c57c22f8e33b0855f9884ab0b0

Frank wrote on Jul 31^st, 2025 at 11:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 11:25am: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 10:00am: All it takes is giggling some keys and half of them fall for it. Hey Lee, Sad's onto you, dear. . ;D ;D ;D It's all Tickle v Giggle, innit. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/equality-australia-joins-fight-against-femaleonly-spaces/news-story/c09435c57c22f8e33b0855f9884ab0b0

Autocorrect got me, oh no...

Jingling*

Nice catch.  Now if only you'd put that vast intellect to good use, and explain things like why Trump keeps contradicting his own story about his ties with Epstein and their apparent falling out?

Someone is telling porkies, either past Trump or present Trump.  Which is it?

And why does he need to lie about his ties to Epstein?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31^st, 2025 at 12:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 11:48am: Karnal wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 11:25am: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 10:00am: All it takes is giggling some keys and half of them fall for it. Hey Lee, Sad's onto you, dear. . ;D ;D ;D It's all Tickle v Giggle, innit. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/equality-australia-joins-fight-against-femaleonly-spaces/news-story/c09435c57c22f8e33b0855f9884ab0b0 Autocorrect got me, oh no... Jingling* Nice catch.  Now if only you'd put that vast intellect to good use, and explain things like why Trump keeps contradicting his own story about his ties with Epstein and their apparent falling out? Someone is telling porkies, either past Trump or present Trump.  Which is it? And why does he need to lie about his ties to Epstein?

What contradictons?


Where were you on Wednesday, 29 March 2004 between 2 and 5? 8 Octobef 2002?

Frank wrote on Jul 31^st, 2025 at 1:01pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 12:53pm: Frank wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 11:48am: Karnal wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 11:25am: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 10:00am: All it takes is giggling some keys and half of them fall for it. Hey Lee, Sad's onto you, dear. . ;D ;D ;D It's all Tickle v Giggle, innit. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/equality-australia-joins-fight-against-femaleonly-spaces/news-story/c09435c57c22f8e33b0855f9884ab0b0 Autocorrect got me, oh no... Jingling* Nice catch.  Now if only you'd put that vast intellect to good use, and explain things like why Trump keeps contradicting his own story about his ties with Epstein and their apparent falling out? Someone is telling porkies, either past Trump or present Trump.  Which is it? And why does he need to lie about his ties to Epstein? What contradictons? Where were you on Wednesday, 29 March 2004 between 2 and 5? 8 Octobef 2002?

But he has the best memory...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9fY24QscNA

Frank wrote on Jul 31^st, 2025 at 1:01pm:

Where were you on Wednesday, 29 March 2004 between 2 and 5? 8 Octobef 2002?

Whats stopping trump from saying he doesn't recall?

John Smith wrote on Jul 31^st, 2025 at 2:08pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 1:01pm: Where were you on Wednesday, 29 March 2004 between 2 and 5? 8 Octobef 2002? Whats stopping trump from saying he doesn't recall?

Of course the dear leader thinks he's got a brilliant memory, he just declares it, and his simpering sycophants nod along like wind-up dolls.

No one in his circle dares correct him, and when someone does push back, they're quickly dismissed as fake news, deep state, or worse, disloyal.

At this point, it's not even clear if Trump's lying or if he genuinely believes the myth he's built around himself. He's so thoroughly cocooned in delusion and ego-fluffing that reality no longer gets a look in.

It's entirely possible he's not technically cheating at golf, because the people around him are so desperate to please him that they do all the cheating for him.

And so, with that laughable follow-through, he still struts around thinking he's a scratch golfer.

Just another fantasy propped up by a cult too spineless to speak the truth.

You've just blown my mind...

https://i.postimg.cc/wBz5mZZ0/Screenshot-2025-07-31-064223.png

Imagine the mental gymnastics required to pretend that Epstein himself is somehow the distraction, just so you can deflect from Trump's well-documented association with him and his likely overrepresentation in the files.

The guy was a central figure in a massive international child trafficking ring, and yet somehow, in that twisted framing, he's the red herring?

Trump's name pops up so much it might as well be printed in bold. You're not uncovering some clever diversion, you're just desperately trying to shield your golden calf from scrutiny.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31^st, 2025 at 3:33pm:

Imagine the mental gymnastics required to pretend that Epstein himself is somehow the distraction, just so you can deflect from Trump's well-documented association with him and his likely overrepresentation in the files. The guy was a central figure in a massive international child trafficking ring, and yet somehow, in that twisted framing, he's the red herring? Trump's name pops up so much it might as well be printed in bold. You're not uncovering some clever diversion, you're just desperately trying to shield your golden calf from scrutiny.

What contradictions, teapot?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31^st, 2025 at 3:33pm:

Imagine the mental gymnastics required to pretend that Epstein himself is somehow the distraction, just so you can deflect from Trump's well-documented association with him and his likely overrepresentation in the files.

Oh, likely overrepresentation. ;) Did you find him visiting Epsteins's island yet?

Frank wrote on Jul 31^st, 2025 at 4:09pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 3:33pm: Imagine the mental gymnastics required to pretend that Epstein himself is somehow the distraction, just so you can deflect from Trump's well-documented association with him and his likely overrepresentation in the files. The guy was a central figure in a massive international child trafficking ring, and yet somehow, in that twisted framing, he's the red herring? Trump's name pops up so much it might as well be printed in bold. You're not uncovering some clever diversion, you're just desperately trying to shield your golden calf from scrutiny. What contradictions, teapot?

The cultists, like yourself, are now seriously claiming that their own distraction from Epstein is somehow being distracted away from by Epstein?

You're trying to distract from Epstein… by pretending that Epstein is the distraction?

What?

It's mental gymnastics so wild it should qualify as an Olympic event. You've tied yourself in knots trying to shield Trump and his inner circle, even if it means defending known predators.

Just say you don't care about the victims, it'd be more honest than this Kafkaesque nonsense.

Children don't matter unless they can be used to control women's bodies.

After birth, people like you Frannie stop caring by opposing healthcare, food programs and education. 

That's a bit of a contradiction, isn't it.  I wonder what others there are?

You refuse to protect them from gun violence while defending assault rifles.

You accuse drag queens of grooming while ignoring or excusing Trump's rape allegations, including one involving a 13-year-old.

You cry about elite paedophile rings while downplaying Trump's ties to Epstein and appointing the prosecutor who let him off.

You scream about parental rights while banning books, undermining trans kids and enforcing Christian nationalism in schools.

You pretend to protect girls in sport while ignoring or defending actual abuse by priests, coaches and Republican officials.

You rant about government tyranny while pushing forced birth, censorship and bans on medical care.

You accuse others of indoctrination while rewriting history, sanitising slavery and forcing patriotism.

You posture as heroes of child safety through QAnon while ignoring abuse in your own ranks.

You claim to be tough on crime while defending abusers and predators from your side, as long as they wear a red cap or are elected President.

Is that enough contradictions for you, or should I continue?

https://eclectech.co.uk/stuff/kettle.gif

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31^st, 2025 at 4:38pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 4:09pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 3:33pm: Imagine the mental gymnastics required to pretend that Epstein himself is somehow the distraction, just so you can deflect from Trump's well-documented association with him and his likely overrepresentation in the files. The guy was a central figure in a massive international child trafficking ring, and yet somehow, in that twisted framing, he's the red herring? Trump's name pops up so much it might as well be printed in bold. You're not uncovering some clever diversion, you're just desperately trying to shield your golden calf from scrutiny. What contradictions, teapot? The cultists, like yourself, are now seriously claiming that their own distraction from Epstein is somehow being distracted away from by Epstein? You're trying to distract from Epstein… by pretending that Epstein is the distraction? What? It's mental gymnastics so wild it should qualify as an Olympic event. You've tied yourself in knots trying to shield Trump and his inner circle, even if it means defending known predators. Just say you don't care about the victims, it'd be more honest than this Kafkaesque nonsense. Children don't matter unless they can be used to control women's bodies. After birth, people like you Frannie stop caring by opposing healthcare, food programs and education.  That's a bit of a contradiction, isn't it.  I wonder what others there are? You refuse to protect them from gun violence while defending assault rifles. You accuse drag queens of grooming while ignoring or excusing Trump's rape allegations, including one involving a 13-year-old. You cry about elite paedophile rings while downplaying Trump's ties to Epstein and appointing the prosecutor who let him off. You scream about parental rights while banning books, undermining trans kids and enforcing Christian nationalism in schools. You pretend to protect girls in sport while ignoring or defending actual abuse by priests, coaches and Republican officials. You rant about government tyranny while pushing forced birth, censorship and bans on medical care. You accuse others of indoctrination while rewriting history, sanitising slavery and forcing patriotism. You posture as heroes of child safety through QAnon while ignoring abuse in your own ranks. You claim to be tough on crime while defending abusers and predators from your side, as long as they wear a red cap or are elected President. Is that enough contradictions for you, or should I continue? https://eclectech.co.uk/stuff/kettle.gif

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Now if only you'd put that vast intellect to good use, and explain things like why Trump keeps contradicting his own story about his ties with Epstein and their apparent falling out? Someone is telling porkies, either past Trump or present Trump.  Which is it? And why does he need to lie about his ties to Epstein?

What contradictions, tap-dancing teapot?
Don't go off all unmored and unhinged. You are not a wee paki or a Slovenian creep, are you?

Focus.

Frank wrote on Jul 31^st, 2025 at 7:55pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 4:38pm: Frank wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 4:09pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 3:33pm: Imagine the mental gymnastics required to pretend that Epstein himself is somehow the distraction, just so you can deflect from Trump's well-documented association with him and his likely overrepresentation in the files. The guy was a central figure in a massive international child trafficking ring, and yet somehow, in that twisted framing, he's the red herring? Trump's name pops up so much it might as well be printed in bold. You're not uncovering some clever diversion, you're just desperately trying to shield your golden calf from scrutiny. What contradictions, teapot? The cultists, like yourself, are now seriously claiming that their own distraction from Epstein is somehow being distracted away from by Epstein? You're trying to distract from Epstein… by pretending that Epstein is the distraction? What? It's mental gymnastics so wild it should qualify as an Olympic event. You've tied yourself in knots trying to shield Trump and his inner circle, even if it means defending known predators. Just say you don't care about the victims, it'd be more honest than this Kafkaesque nonsense. Children don't matter unless they can be used to control women's bodies. After birth, people like you Frannie stop caring by opposing healthcare, food programs and education.  That's a bit of a contradiction, isn't it.  I wonder what others there are? You refuse to protect them from gun violence while defending assault rifles. You accuse drag queens of grooming while ignoring or excusing Trump's rape allegations, including one involving a 13-year-old. You cry about elite paedophile rings while downplaying Trump's ties to Epstein and appointing the prosecutor who let him off. You scream about parental rights while banning books, undermining trans kids and enforcing Christian nationalism in schools. You pretend to protect girls in sport while ignoring or defending actual abuse by priests, coaches and Republican officials. You rant about government tyranny while pushing forced birth, censorship and bans on medical care. You accuse others of indoctrination while rewriting history, sanitising slavery and forcing patriotism. You posture as heroes of child safety through QAnon while ignoring abuse in your own ranks. You claim to be tough on crime while defending abusers and predators from your side, as long as they wear a red cap or are elected President. Is that enough contradictions for you, or should I continue? https://eclectech.co.uk/stuff/kettle.gif Quote: Now if only you'd put that vast intellect to good use, and explain things like why Trump keeps contradicting his own story about his ties with Epstein and their apparent falling out? Someone is telling porkies, either past Trump or present Trump.  Which is it? And why does he need to lie about his ties to Epstein? What contradictions, tap-dancing teapot? Don't go off all unmored and unhinged. You are not a wee paki or a Slovenian creep, are you? Focus.

First there are files, they're on Bondi's desk. Then there's no list. Then there's Trump saying he stopped being buddies with Epstein because he was a creep, then it's because Epstein "stole" women from his Florida retreat. First the list is real, then it's a made up thing by Dems. Trump changes his tune on this more often than I can count. Need I go on?  :-?

lee wrote on Jul 31^st, 2025 at 3:29pm:

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Thanks, Lee. Now let's watch you prove every one of those points.

Up for a giggle?

Or would you prefer a gag?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 1^st, 2025 at 5:59am:

Frank wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 7:55pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 4:38pm: Frank wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 4:09pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 3:33pm: Imagine the mental gymnastics required to pretend that Epstein himself is somehow the distraction, just so you can deflect from Trump's well-documented association with him and his likely overrepresentation in the files. The guy was a central figure in a massive international child trafficking ring, and yet somehow, in that twisted framing, he's the red herring? Trump's name pops up so much it might as well be printed in bold. You're not uncovering some clever diversion, you're just desperately trying to shield your golden calf from scrutiny. What contradictions, teapot? The cultists, like yourself, are now seriously claiming that their own distraction from Epstein is somehow being distracted away from by Epstein? You're trying to distract from Epstein… by pretending that Epstein is the distraction? What? It's mental gymnastics so wild it should qualify as an Olympic event. You've tied yourself in knots trying to shield Trump and his inner circle, even if it means defending known predators. Just say you don't care about the victims, it'd be more honest than this Kafkaesque nonsense. Children don't matter unless they can be used to control women's bodies. After birth, people like you Frannie stop caring by opposing healthcare, food programs and education.  That's a bit of a contradiction, isn't it.  I wonder what others there are? You refuse to protect them from gun violence while defending assault rifles. You accuse drag queens of grooming while ignoring or excusing Trump's rape allegations, including one involving a 13-year-old. You cry about elite paedophile rings while downplaying Trump's ties to Epstein and appointing the prosecutor who let him off. You scream about parental rights while banning books, undermining trans kids and enforcing Christian nationalism in schools. You pretend to protect girls in sport while ignoring or defending actual abuse by priests, coaches and Republican officials. You rant about government tyranny while pushing forced birth, censorship and bans on medical care. You accuse others of indoctrination while rewriting history, sanitising slavery and forcing patriotism. You posture as heroes of child safety through QAnon while ignoring abuse in your own ranks. You claim to be tough on crime while defending abusers and predators from your side, as long as they wear a red cap or are elected President. Is that enough contradictions for you, or should I continue? https://eclectech.co.uk/stuff/kettle.gif Quote: Now if only you'd put that vast intellect to good use, and explain things like why Trump keeps contradicting his own story about his ties with Epstein and their apparent falling out? Someone is telling porkies, either past Trump or present Trump.  Which is it? And why does he need to lie about his ties to Epstein? What contradictions, tap-dancing teapot? Don't go off all unmored and unhinged. You are not a wee paki or a Slovenian creep, are you? Focus. First there are files, they're on Bondi's desk. Then there's no list. Then there's Trump saying he stopped being buddies with Epstein because he was a creep, then it's because Epstein "stole" women from his Florida retreat. First the list is real, then it's a made up thing by Dems. Trump changes his tune on this more often than I can count. Need I go on?  :-?

No, Armchair, I think you've said quite enough, thanks.

Frannie's just had a bit of a turn. He's decided to have a nice lie down.

If you don't hear from him by Christmas, we'll call out a search party, mkay?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31^st, 2025 at 4:38pm:

The cultists, like yourself, are now seriously claiming that their own distraction from Epstein is somehow being distracted away from by Epstein? You're trying to distract from Epstein… by pretending that Epstein is the distraction? What? It's mental gymnastics so wild it should qualify as an Olympic event. You've tied yourself in knots trying to shield Trump and his inner circle, even if it means defending known predators. Just say you don't care about the victims, it'd be more honest than this Kafkaesque nonsense. Children don't matter unless they can be used to control women's bodies. After birth, people like you Frannie stop caring by opposing healthcare, food programs and education.  That's a bit of a contradiction, isn't it.  I wonder what others there are? You refuse to protect them from gun violence while defending assault rifles. You accuse drag queens of grooming while ignoring or excusing Trump's rape allegations, including one involving a 13-year-old. You cry about elite paedophile rings while downplaying Trump's ties to Epstein and appointing the prosecutor who let him off. You scream about parental rights while banning books, undermining trans kids and enforcing Christian nationalism in schools. You pretend to protect girls in sport while ignoring or defending actual abuse by priests, coaches and Republican officials. You rant about government tyranny while pushing forced birth, censorship and bans on medical care. You accuse others of indoctrination while rewriting history, sanitising slavery and forcing patriotism. You posture as heroes of child safety through QAnon while ignoring abuse in your own ranks. You claim to be tough on crime while defending abusers and predators from your side, as long as they wear a red cap or are elected President. Is that enough contradictions for you, or should I continue? https://eclectech.co.uk/stuff/kettle.gif

You are out of your mind with unhinged, over the top rhetorical bombast.
Amazingly stupid and ludicrous. Like a mad medieval monk: wild eyed, spittle flecked maniac.

Karnal wrote on Aug 1^st, 2025 at 6:46am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 5:59am: Frank wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 7:55pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 4:38pm: Frank wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 4:09pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 3:33pm: Imagine the mental gymnastics required to pretend that Epstein himself is somehow the distraction, just so you can deflect from Trump's well-documented association with him and his likely overrepresentation in the files. The guy was a central figure in a massive international child trafficking ring, and yet somehow, in that twisted framing, he's the red herring? Trump's name pops up so much it might as well be printed in bold. You're not uncovering some clever diversion, you're just desperately trying to shield your golden calf from scrutiny. What contradictions, teapot? The cultists, like yourself, are now seriously claiming that their own distraction from Epstein is somehow being distracted away from by Epstein? You're trying to distract from Epstein… by pretending that Epstein is the distraction? What? It's mental gymnastics so wild it should qualify as an Olympic event. You've tied yourself in knots trying to shield Trump and his inner circle, even if it means defending known predators. Just say you don't care about the victims, it'd be more honest than this Kafkaesque nonsense. Children don't matter unless they can be used to control women's bodies. After birth, people like you Frannie stop caring by opposing healthcare, food programs and education.  That's a bit of a contradiction, isn't it.  I wonder what others there are? You refuse to protect them from gun violence while defending assault rifles. You accuse drag queens of grooming while ignoring or excusing Trump's rape allegations, including one involving a 13-year-old. You cry about elite paedophile rings while downplaying Trump's ties to Epstein and appointing the prosecutor who let him off. You scream about parental rights while banning books, undermining trans kids and enforcing Christian nationalism in schools. You pretend to protect girls in sport while ignoring or defending actual abuse by priests, coaches and Republican officials. You rant about government tyranny while pushing forced birth, censorship and bans on medical care. You accuse others of indoctrination while rewriting history, sanitising slavery and forcing patriotism. You posture as heroes of child safety through QAnon while ignoring abuse in your own ranks. You claim to be tough on crime while defending abusers and predators from your side, as long as they wear a red cap or are elected President. Is that enough contradictions for you, or should I continue? https://eclectech.co.uk/stuff/kettle.gif Quote: Now if only you'd put that vast intellect to good use, and explain things like why Trump keeps contradicting his own story about his ties with Epstein and their apparent falling out? Someone is telling porkies, either past Trump or present Trump.  Which is it? And why does he need to lie about his ties to Epstein? What contradictions, tap-dancing teapot? Don't go off all unmored and unhinged. You are not a wee paki or a Slovenian creep, are you? Focus. First there are files, they're on Bondi's desk. Then there's no list. Then there's Trump saying he stopped being buddies with Epstein because he was a creep, then it's because Epstein "stole" women from his Florida retreat. First the list is real, then it's a made up thing by Dems. Trump changes his tune on this more often than I can count. Need I go on?  :-? No, Armchair, I think you've said quite enough, thanks. Frannie's just had a bit of a turn. He's decided to have a nice lie down. If you don't hear from him by Christmas, we'll call out a search party, mkay?

;D

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Frank wrote on Aug 1^st, 2025 at 10:28am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 4:38pm: The cultists, like yourself, are now seriously claiming that their own distraction from Epstein is somehow being distracted away from by Epstein? You're trying to distract from Epstein… by pretending that Epstein is the distraction? What? It's mental gymnastics so wild it should qualify as an Olympic event. You've tied yourself in knots trying to shield Trump and his inner circle, even if it means defending known predators. Just say you don't care about the victims, it'd be more honest than this Kafkaesque nonsense. Children don't matter unless they can be used to control women's bodies. After birth, people like you Frannie stop caring by opposing healthcare, food programs and education.  That's a bit of a contradiction, isn't it.  I wonder what others there are? You refuse to protect them from gun violence while defending assault rifles. You accuse drag queens of grooming while ignoring or excusing Trump's rape allegations, including one involving a 13-year-old. You cry about elite paedophile rings while downplaying Trump's ties to Epstein and appointing the prosecutor who let him off. You scream about parental rights while banning books, undermining trans kids and enforcing Christian nationalism in schools. You pretend to protect girls in sport while ignoring or defending actual abuse by priests, coaches and Republican officials. You rant about government tyranny while pushing forced birth, censorship and bans on medical care. You accuse others of indoctrination while rewriting history, sanitising slavery and forcing patriotism. You posture as heroes of child safety through QAnon while ignoring abuse in your own ranks. You claim to be tough on crime while defending abusers and predators from your side, as long as they wear a red cap or are elected President. Is that enough contradictions for you, or should I continue? https://eclectech.co.uk/stuff/kettle.gif You are out of your mind with unhinged, over the top rhetorical bombast. Amazingly stupid and ludicrous. Like a mad medieval monk: wild eyed, spittle flecked maniac.

It's all true Frank, that's why you're going personal, again.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 1^st, 2025 at 10:56am:

It's all true Frank, that's why you're going personal, again.

I'm not sure Franks going to survive trumps 2nd term .... at the rate he's going he'll have a heart attack before Trump does. :D :D :D

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 1^st, 2025 at 10:56am:

Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 10:28am: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 4:38pm: The cultists, like yourself, are now seriously claiming that their own distraction from Epstein is somehow being distracted away from by Epstein? You're trying to distract from Epstein… by pretending that Epstein is the distraction? What? It's mental gymnastics so wild it should qualify as an Olympic event. You've tied yourself in knots trying to shield Trump and his inner circle, even if it means defending known predators. Just say you don't care about the victims, it'd be more honest than this Kafkaesque nonsense. Children don't matter unless they can be used to control women's bodies. After birth, people like you Frannie stop caring by opposing healthcare, food programs and education.  That's a bit of a contradiction, isn't it.  I wonder what others there are? You refuse to protect them from gun violence while defending assault rifles. You accuse drag queens of grooming while ignoring or excusing Trump's rape allegations, including one involving a 13-year-old. You cry about elite paedophile rings while downplaying Trump's ties to Epstein and appointing the prosecutor who let him off. You scream about parental rights while banning books, undermining trans kids and enforcing Christian nationalism in schools. You pretend to protect girls in sport while ignoring or defending actual abuse by priests, coaches and Republican officials. You rant about government tyranny while pushing forced birth, censorship and bans on medical care. You accuse others of indoctrination while rewriting history, sanitising slavery and forcing patriotism. You posture as heroes of child safety through QAnon while ignoring abuse in your own ranks. You claim to be tough on crime while defending abusers and predators from your side, as long as they wear a red cap or are elected President. Is that enough contradictions for you, or should I continue? https://eclectech.co.uk/stuff/kettle.gif You are out of your mind with unhinged, over the top rhetorical bombast. Amazingly stupid and ludicrous. Like a mad medieval monk: wild eyed, spittle flecked maniac. It's all true Frank, that's why you're going personal, again.

I'm going personal????

Have you re-read your own long diatribe?  Not personal??  :D :D

John Smith wrote on Aug 1^st, 2025 at 11:15am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 10:56am: It's all true Frank, that's why you're going personal, again. I'm not sure Franks going to survive trumps 2nd term .... at the rate he's going he'll have a heart attack before Trump does. :D :D :D

I'm betting on Trump choking to death on a Big Mac.

Karnal wrote on Aug 1^st, 2025 at 6:42am:

Or would you prefer a gag?

I am sure you would prefer the gag. But talking of proof, where is yours? And no the media are not necessarily the harbingers of truth. The CIA? Maybe. ;)

I don't know, an early exit for Trump might just tip Frank over the edge.

Frank wrote on Aug 1^st, 2025 at 11:59am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 10:56am: Frank wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 10:28am: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 4:38pm: The cultists, like yourself, are now seriously claiming that their own distraction from Epstein is somehow being distracted away from by Epstein? You're trying to distract from Epstein… by pretending that Epstein is the distraction? What? It's mental gymnastics so wild it should qualify as an Olympic event. You've tied yourself in knots trying to shield Trump and his inner circle, even if it means defending known predators. Just say you don't care about the victims, it'd be more honest than this Kafkaesque nonsense. Children don't matter unless they can be used to control women's bodies. After birth, people like you Frannie stop caring by opposing healthcare, food programs and education.  That's a bit of a contradiction, isn't it.  I wonder what others there are? You refuse to protect them from gun violence while defending assault rifles. You accuse drag queens of grooming while ignoring or excusing Trump's rape allegations, including one involving a 13-year-old. You cry about elite paedophile rings while downplaying Trump's ties to Epstein and appointing the prosecutor who let him off. You scream about parental rights while banning books, undermining trans kids and enforcing Christian nationalism in schools. You pretend to protect girls in sport while ignoring or defending actual abuse by priests, coaches and Republican officials. You rant about government tyranny while pushing forced birth, censorship and bans on medical care. You accuse others of indoctrination while rewriting history, sanitising slavery and forcing patriotism. You posture as heroes of child safety through QAnon while ignoring abuse in your own ranks. You claim to be tough on crime while defending abusers and predators from your side, as long as they wear a red cap or are elected President. Is that enough contradictions for you, or should I continue? https://eclectech.co.uk/stuff/kettle.gif You are out of your mind with unhinged, over the top rhetorical bombast. Amazingly stupid and ludicrous. Like a mad medieval monk: wild eyed, spittle flecked maniac. It's all true Frank, that's why you're going personal, again. I'm going personal???? Have you re-read your own long diatribe?  Not personal??  :D :D

You asked for contradictions and I gave them, calmly, clearly, and without insult. That you responded with aggression and abuse says more about your emotional stability than it does about my argument.

It's a familiar pattern. Every time someone lands too close to the truth, you melt down and lash out. So I'll ask genuinely, are you alright? Because your reaction feels more like a tantrum than a rebuttal.

Are you ok?

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ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 1^st, 2025 at 1:13pm:

I don't know, an early exit for Trump might just tip Frannie over the edge.

Who will Frannie idolise after congestive heart failure finally catches up with Trump?

Will he be like aquascoot and start worshipping Meatball Ron, or will he turn his attention to Vance?

There'll certainly be a period of mourning for the poor old fella - he does love that adjudicated rapist and convicted felon.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 1^st, 2025 at 12:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:15am: ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 10:56am: It's all true Frank, that's why you're going personal, again. I'm not sure Franks going to survive trumps 2nd term .... at the rate he's going he'll have a heart attack before Trump does. :D :D :D I'm betting on Trump choking to death on a Big Mac.

either option works :D

John Smith wrote on Aug 1^st, 2025 at 1:24pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 12:17pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 11:15am: ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 10:56am: It's all true Frank, that's why you're going personal, again. I'm not sure Franks going to survive trumps 2nd term .... at the rate he's going he'll have a heart attack before Trump does. :D :D :D I'm betting on Trump choking to death on a Big Mac. either option works :D

He'll choke on something.

https://media.tenor.com/bSW6WKFpQpEAAAAe/donald-trump-sucks.png

lee wrote on Aug 1^st, 2025 at 12:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 6:42am: Or would you prefer a gag? I am sure you would prefer the gag. But talking of proof, where is yours? And no the media are not necessarily the harbingers of truth. The CIA? Maybe. ;)

No no, you made a claim. Trump economy is up, unemployment down, military recruitment, inflation, crime, all at their respective record highs or lows. Then you said the Epstein saga is a manufactured witch hunt, engineered by the leftards to drown out your DL's success.

I'm asking you to back this up with proof. If you can't, all good, just say that.

Ee-gad, the man's now firing statisticians. If you'd like to change your mind and roll your claim back, all good, say that instead.

Cheers.

CLICK HERE For An Updated Number Of Corrupt Government Officials Who Have Been Arrested For The Russia Collusion Hoax


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The Official Russian Collusion Hoax Arrest Counter
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Karnal wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 10:59pm:

lee wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 12:47pm: Karnal wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 6:42am: Or would you prefer a gag? I am sure you would prefer the gag. But talking of proof, where is yours? And no the media are not necessarily the harbingers of truth. The CIA? Maybe. ;) No no, you made a claim. Trump economy is up, unemployment down, military recruitment, inflation, crime, all at their respective record highs or lows. Then you said the Epstein saga is a manufactured witch hunt, engineered by the leftards to drown out your DL's success. I'm asking you to back this up with proof. If you can't, all good, just say that. Ee-gad, the man's now firing statisticians. If you'd like to change your mind and roll your claim back, all good, say that instead. Cheers.

Oh look: lee's gone.

Karnal wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 10:59pm:

No no, you made a claim. Trump economy is up, unemployment down, military recruitment, inflation, crime, all at their respective record highs or lows. Then you said the Epstein saga is a manufactured witch hunt, engineered by the leftards to drown out your DL's success.

And I never made any of those claims. What a piece of dogshit. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

However, it should be easy for you to prove. Do you see the "search" function? ;)

You never let the truth get in the way of a story. ;)

WASHINGTON — Hillary Clinton signed off on a plan hatched by a top campaign adviser to “smear” then-candidate Donald Trump with false claims of Russian collusion and distract from her own mounting email scandal during the 2016 campaign, according to explosive intelligence files declassified Thursday.

The 24-page intelligence annex was compiled from memos and emails obtained by the Obama administration in the lead-up to Election Day that laid out “confidential conversations” between leaders of the Democratic National Committee — including then-Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz — and liberal billionaire George Soros’ Open Society Foundations.

The plot, the brainchild of the Clinton campaign’s then-foreign policy adviser, Julianne Smith, included “raising the theme of ‘Putin’s support for Trump’” and “subsequently steering public opinion toward the notion that it needs to equate” the Russian leader’s political influence campaign with actual hacking of election infrastructure.

Smith would go on to serve as former President Joe Biden’s ambassador to NATO. “I don’t have any comment,” she told The Post when reached by phone Thursday.

Open Society senior vice president Leonard Benardo was looped in on the scheme and laid out its intended effect in a series of emails in late July 2016.

“Julie [sic] says it will be a long-term affair to demonize Putin and Trump,” Benardo was quoted as writing July 25. “Now it is good for a post-convention bounce. Later the FBI will put more oil into the fire.”

Two days later, Benardo wrote: “HRC approved Julia’s idea about Trump and Russian hackers hampering U.S. elections. That should distract people from her own missing email, especially if the affair goes to the Olympic level,” an apparent reference to revelations of a massive state-sponsored doping campaign by Russia following the 2014 Winter Games in Sochi.

“The point is making the Russian play a U.S. domestic issue,” Benardo also stated. “In absence of direct evidence, Crowdstrike and ThreatConnect will supply the media, and GRU [Russia’s foreign intelligence arm] will hopefully carry on to give more facts.”


https://nypost.com/2025/07/31/us-news/hillary-clinton-approved-plan-hatched-by-campaign-aides-to-smear-trump-with-russia-collusion-declassified-docs/

Frank wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2025 at 11:15am:

CLICK HERE For An Updated Number Of Corrupt Government Officials Who Have Been Arrested For The Russia Collusion Hoax https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/688ce1ef0db5c688ce1ef0db5d.jpg The Official Russian Collusion Hoax Arrest Counter https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/article-688ce182f1b54.jpg

The were 34 prosecutions from the Russia investigation.

George Papadopoulos - Pleaded guilty
Rick Gates - Pleaded guilty
Paul Manafort - Pleaded guilty / Found guilty
Michael Flynn - Pleaded guilty
Richard Pinedo - Pleaded guilty
Alex van der Zwaan - Pleaded guilty
Dzheykhun Aslanov - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Gleb Vasilchenko - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Internet Research Agency LLC - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Irina Kaverzina - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Vladimir Venkov - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Anna Bogacheva - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Maria Bovda - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Robert Bovda - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Mikhail Burchik - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Mikhail Bystrov - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Aleksandra Krylova - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Vadim Podkopaev - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Sergey Polozov - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Yevgeny Prigozhin - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Concord Catering - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Konstantin Kilimnik - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Boris Antonov - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Dmitriy Badin - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Nikolay Kozachek - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Aleksey Lukashev - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Artem Malyshev - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Sergey Morgachev - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Viktor Netyksho - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Aleksey Potemkin - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Ivan Yermakov - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Pavel Yershov - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Aleksandr Osadchuk - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Anatoliy Kovalev - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction
Michael Cohen - Pleaded guilty
Roger Stone - Pleaded guilty

Dnarever wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2025 at 8:14pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 11:15am: CLICK HERE For An Updated Number Of Corrupt Government Officials Who Have Been Arrested For The Russia Collusion Hoax https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/688ce1ef0db5c688ce1ef0db5d.jpg The Official Russian Collusion Hoax Arrest Counter https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/article-688ce182f1b54.jpg The were 34 prosecutions from the Russia investigation. George Papadopoulos - Pleaded guilty Rick Gates - Pleaded guilty Paul Manafort - Pleaded guilty / Found guilty Michael Flynn - Pleaded guilty Richard Pinedo - Pleaded guilty Alex van der Zwaan - Pleaded guilty Dzheykhun Aslanov - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Gleb Vasilchenko - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Internet Research Agency LLC - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Irina Kaverzina - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Vladimir Venkov - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Anna Bogacheva - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Maria Bovda - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Robert Bovda - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Mikhail Burchik - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Mikhail Bystrov - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Aleksandra Krylova - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Vadim Podkopaev - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Sergey Polozov - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Yevgeny Prigozhin - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Concord Catering - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Konstantin Kilimnik - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Boris Antonov - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Dmitriy Badin - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Nikolay Kozachek - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Aleksey Lukashev - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Artem Malyshev - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Sergey Morgachev - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Viktor Netyksho - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Aleksey Potemkin - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Ivan Yermakov - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Pavel Yershov - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Aleksandr Osadchuk - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Anatoliy Kovalev - At large outside U.S. jurisdiction Michael Cohen - Pleaded guilty Roger Stone - Pleaded guilty

they never happened. it was all a hoax :D :D :D

lee wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2025 at 1:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 2nd, 2025 at 10:59pm: No no, you made a claim. Trump economy is up, unemployment down, military recruitment, inflation, crime, all at their respective record highs or lows. Then you said the Epstein saga is a manufactured witch hunt, engineered by the leftards to drown out your DL's success. And I never made any of those claims. What a piece of dogshit. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D However, it should be easy for you to prove. Do you see the "search" function? ;) You never let the truth get in the way of a story. ;)

But of course you did. It was all in the silly meme you posted with your giggles.

You can hardly distance yourself from your own propaganda, now can you?

Own your own words, Lee. Now, we're still waiting for all those record figures on the economy.

Off you go, chop chop.

Karnal wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2025 at 8:46pm:

Own your own words, Lee.

My own words were actually from some cartoonist? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2025 at 8:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:46pm: Own your own words, Lee. My own words were actually from some cartoonist? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yes - you never actually say anything but a cartoonist would be a step up.

lee wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2025 at 8:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 3rd, 2025 at 8:46pm: Own your own words, Lee. My own words were actually from some cartoonist? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You posted it, dear. If you don't want to back up your own words, that's okay.

Just say that.

Oh, my GAWD! What the f**k is this? Paris is not going to Harvard?

https://youtu.be/821hMXdxfpo

I blame Obama.

(CNN) - Attorney General Pam Bondi directed federal prosecutors to launch a grand jury investigation into accusations that members of the Obama administration manufactured intelligence about Russia’s 2016 election interference, a source familiar with the matter told CNN.

A grand jury would be able to issue subpoenas as part of a criminal investigation into renewed allegations that Democratic officials tried to smear Donald Trump during his 2016 campaign by falsely alleging his campaign was colluding with the Russian government. It could also consider an indictment should the Justice Department decide to pursue a criminal case.

The move follows a referral from Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, who declassified documents in July that she alleges undermine the Obama administration’s conclusion that Russia tried to help Trump defeat Hillary Clinton.



https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/05/2014-05-01t192045z_2124717211_gm1ea52091101_rtrmadp_3_usa-obama.jpg

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Frank wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 5:56pm:

... National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, ...

Lol   ;D

Frank wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 5:56pm:

(CNN) - Attorney General Pam Bondi directed federal prosecutors to launch a grand jury investigation into accusations that members of the Obama administration manufactured intelligence about Russia’s 2016 election interference, a source familiar with the matter told CNN. A grand jury would be able to issue subpoenas as part of a criminal investigation into renewed allegations that Democratic officials tried to smear Donald Trump during his 2016 campaign by falsely alleging his campaign was colluding with the Russian government. It could also consider an indictment should the Justice Department decide to pursue a criminal case. The move follows a referral from Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, who declassified documents in July that she alleges undermine the Obama administration’s conclusion that Russia tried to help Trump defeat Hillary Clinton. https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/05/2014-05-01t192045z_2124717211_gm1ea52091101_rtrmadp_3_usa-obama.jpg

I see. So how's Pam going to get around that Supreme Court ruling that presidents can do anything, including send the Navy Seals in to take out their political rivals?

DL must be sitting in the Oval Office, fuming. While he's not spending his time as prez opening his own golf courses and charging foreign countries in Memecoin for not raising tariffs.

Executive privilege, innit.

On this week’s broadcast of Fox News Channel’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” Vice President JD Vance predicted a lot of indictments after Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard accused former President Barack Obama and other officials of attempting to manipulate the 2016 presidential election.

Vance said, “I absolutely want to see indictments, Maria. Look, of course, you’ve got to have the law follow the facts here. You don’t just indict people to indict people. You indict people because they broke the law. But if you look at what Tulsi and Kash Patel have revealed in the last couple of weeks, I don’t know how anybody can look at that and say that there wasn’t aggressive violations of the law.”

He added, “I absolutely think they broke the law. You’re gonna see a lot of people get indicted for that. Here’s the thing that should really bother the American people. What do you want our intelligence community to be doing? I want them to be catching bad guys. I want to be making sure that terrorists aren’t gonna kill innocent American civilians. I don’t want them laundering Hillary Clinton’s campaign talking points into the American media and giving them this air of legitimacy. It is sick and it’s disgusting.”

Frank wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 9:01pm:

On this week’s broadcast of Fox News Channel’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” Vice President JD Vance predicted a lot of indictments after Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard accused former President Barack Obama and other officials of attempting to manipulate the 2016 presidential election. Vance said, “I absolutely want to see indictments, Maria. Look, of course, you’ve got to have the law follow the facts here. You don’t just indict people to indict people. You indict people because they broke the law. But if you look at what Tulsi and Kash Patel have revealed in the last couple of weeks, I don’t know how anybody can look at that and say that there wasn’t aggressive violations of the law.” He added, “I absolutely think they broke the law. You’re gonna see a lot of people get indicted for that. Here’s the thing that should really bother the American people. What do you want our intelligence community to be doing? I want them to be catching bad guys. I want to be making sure that terrorists aren’t gonna kill innocent American civilians. I don’t want them laundering Hillary Clinton’s campaign talking points into the American media and giving them this air of legitimacy. It is sick and it’s disgusting.”

JD's clearly a constitutional conservative, dear chap. The Kenyan needs to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, no?

Once DL's locked Hussein up, he can send the Navy Seals in to take out his hideous black arse.

If it's illegal, that's okay. As prez, DL has full immunity for official acts. How do we know?

DL's judges said.

Frank wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 5:56pm:

(CNN) - Attorney General Pam Bondi directed federal prosecutors to launch a grand jury investigation into accusations that members of the Obama administration manufactured intelligence about Russia’s 2016 election interference, a source familiar with the matter told CNN. A grand jury would be able to issue subpoenas as part of a criminal investigation into renewed allegations that Democratic officials tried to smear Donald Trump during his 2016 campaign by falsely alleging his campaign was colluding with the Russian government. It could also consider an indictment should the Justice Department decide to pursue a criminal case. The move follows a referral from Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, who declassified documents in July that she alleges undermine the Obama administration’s conclusion that Russia tried to help Trump defeat Hillary Clinton. https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/05/2014-05-01t192045z_2124717211_gm1ea52091101_rtrmadp_3_usa-obama.jpg

Quote:

that members of the Obama administration manufactured intelligence about Russia’s 2016 election interference,

Yeah sure makes sense - Obama set it up and then kept it secret till after the election, that's what they would do right ??? Some Idiots would believe anything. If the Dems were behind it the story would have been on every front page before the election just like the Hunter laptop lies were.

The meeting between Papadopoulos and Downer was reported by Downer, a conservative politician ? Nothing to do with Obama.


Quote:

On October 5, 2017, Papadopoulos pleaded guilty in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia to making false statements to FBI agents relating to contacts he had with agents of the Russian government while working for the Trump campaign.

Basically the guy originally reported, the reason the investigation was opened plead guilty to meeting with Russian agents while he was working on Trumps election campaign.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8^th, 2025 at 12:49pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 5th, 2025 at 5:56pm: ... National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, ... Lol   ;D

Frank does have a sense of humor. Imagine putting Gabbard and intelligence in the same sentence.