It is abundantly clear that Trump is directly responsible for the deaths that occurred as a result of the flooding in Texas. He gutted the Weather Service that could have given some warning of the impending danger. He gutted FEMA, with his Sec. of Homeland Security also putting in place red tape that would cost lives and hampered a swift response. Just more incompetence from an administration of amateurs who should have stuck to reality TV shows.

Serious question, are you retarded?

The Weather Service did a good job with the information you had here. I don't think the staffing cuts contributed to this," said Andy Hazelton, a climate scientist who was laid off from NOAA where he modelled hurricane paths.

While experts say the National Weather Service issued alerts in a timely manner over the weekend, the deadly incident carries warnings about what could happen if the NWS and NOAA are not properly staffed and funded in the future


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx23ye0xnnyo

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:47am:

It is abundantly clear that Trump is directly responsible for the deaths that occurred as a result of the flooding in Texas. He gutted the Weather Service that could have given some warning of the impending danger. He gutted FEMA, with his Sec. of Homeland Security also putting in place red tape that would cost lives and hampered a swift response. Just more incompetence from an administration of amateurs who should have stuck to reality TV shows.

Yep.  He's 100% to blame.

And to rub salt in the wounds, he hasn't even visited the site yet - he's too busy playing golf, stuffing up tariff deals, burying the Epstein files and hosting war criminals at the White House.

All because Project 2025 links accurate weather forecasting with climate change, and wants to gut the very institutions that give us the data, recommending the downsizing and commercialisation of NOAA because they see it as part of the "climate change alarm industry".

Now, a deep-red state is drowning, literally, and their Governor's response is to dismiss accountability as "loser talk". All to keep people from noticing that the red on their MAGA hats isn't just fabric dye anymore, it's blood.

MAGA really are stupid.

Trump dragged his feet, delaying the Major Disaster Declaration until July 6, 2025, long after the floods had begun. That declaration was supposed to kickstart FEMA's involvement. But thanks to Kristi Noem's new policy requiring her personal sign-off on anything over $100k, FEMA's Urban Search and Rescue teams weren't authorised to deploy for over 72 hours. They finally arrived on Monday, July 7, far too late for many.

And yet, in contrast, a Mexican rescue team from Coahuila's Protección Civil and Bomberos de Acuña got the call from Texas EquuSearch, left Mexico at 5 a.m. on July 6, and were in Kerr County that same day helping Texans escape rising waters.

Think about that: after all the demonisation from Trump, all the border wall theatre, all the race-baiting, Mexico still got boots on the ground before the US federal government.

Say it louder: MAGA really are stupid.

Dangerous beyond belief!

Nature laughs at ideology.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 9:25am:

All because Project 2025 links accurate weather forecasting with climate change, and wants to gut the very institutions that give us the data, recommending the downsizing and commercialisation of NOAA because they see it as part of the "climate change alarm industry". Now, a deep-red state is drowning, literally, and their Governor's response is to dismiss accountability as "loser talk". All to keep people from noticing that the red on their MAGA hats isn't just fabric dye anymore, it's blood. MAGA really are stupid. Trump dragged his feet, delaying the Major Disaster Declaration until July 6, 2025, long after the floods had begun. That declaration was supposed to kickstart FEMA's involvement. But thanks to Kristi Noem's new policy requiring her personal sign-off on anything over $100k, FEMA's Urban Search and Rescue teams weren't authorised to deploy for over 72 hours. They finally arrived on Monday, July 7, far too late for many. And yet, in contrast, a Mexican rescue team from Coahuila's Protección Civil and Bomberos de Acuña got the call from Texas EquuSearch, left Mexico at 5 a.m. on July 6, and were in Kerr County that same day helping Texans escape rising waters. Think about that: after all the demonisation from Trump, all the border wall theatre, all the race-baiting, Mexico still got boots on the ground before the US federal government. Say it louder: MAGA really are stupid.

In all seriousness, I have never in all my life seen a level of stupidity that comes anywhere close to that of MAGA.

It's both sad and frightening that people that stupid are walking around in society.

Gordon wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 9:18am:

Serious question, are you retarded? The Weather Service did a good job with the information you had here. I don't think the staffing cuts contributed to this," said Andy Hazelton, a climate scientist who was laid off from NOAA where he modelled hurricane paths. While experts say the National Weather Service issued alerts in a timely manner over the weekend, the deadly incident carries warnings about what could happen if the NWS and NOAA are not properly staffed and funded in the future https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx23ye0xnnyo

A position specifically designated to provide early warning of these types of events was vacated as part of the Trump administration purge at the Weather Service and that role remains unfilled. Serious question - are you retarded so greatly you just blindly accept the lies and misinformation Trump says as gospel? Of course you are!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 10:06am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 9:18am: Serious question, are you retarded? The Weather Service did a good job with the information you had here. I don't think the staffing cuts contributed to this," said Andy Hazelton, a climate scientist who was laid off from NOAA where he modelled hurricane paths. While experts say the National Weather Service issued alerts in a timely manner over the weekend, the deadly incident carries warnings about what could happen if the NWS and NOAA are not properly staffed and funded in the future https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx23ye0xnnyo A position specifically designated to provide early warning of these types of events was vacated as part of the Trump administration purge at the Weather Service and that role remains unfilled. Serious question - are you retarded so greatly you just blindly accept the lies and misinformation Trump says as gospel? Of course you are!

BBC are shilling for Trump?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 9:24am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:47am: It is abundantly clear that Trump is directly responsible for the deaths that occurred as a result of the flooding in Texas. He gutted the Weather Service that could have given some warning of the impending danger. He gutted FEMA, with his Sec. of Homeland Security also putting in place red tape that would cost lives and hampered a swift response. Just more incompetence from an administration of amateurs who should have stuck to reality TV shows. Yep.  He's 100% to blame. And to rub salt in the wounds, he hasn't even visited the site yet - he's too busy playing golf, stuffing up tariff deals, burying the Epstein files and hosting war criminals at the White House.

Staff and equipment from FEMA, which falls under the purview of DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, couldn’t be deployed for more than 72 hours AFTER the disaster unfolded because she had put into place a requirement that such resources needed her personal approval. As with all disasters, time is crucial and because of red tape created by her, the FEMA response was hamstrung for more than 3 days!

Gordon wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 10:09am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:06am: Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 9:18am: Serious question, are you retarded? The Weather Service did a good job with the information you had here. I don't think the staffing cuts contributed to this," said Andy Hazelton, a climate scientist who was laid off from NOAA where he modelled hurricane paths. While experts say the National Weather Service issued alerts in a timely manner over the weekend, the deadly incident carries warnings about what could happen if the NWS and NOAA are not properly staffed and funded in the future https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx23ye0xnnyo A position specifically designated to provide early warning of these types of events was vacated as part of the Trump administration purge at the Weather Service and that role remains unfilled. Serious question - are you retarded so greatly you just blindly accept the lies and misinformation Trump says as gospel? Of course you are! BBC are shilling for Trump?

I rarely read BBC, so don’t know where you get that from.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 10:09am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 9:24am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:47am: It is abundantly clear that Trump is directly responsible for the deaths that occurred as a result of the flooding in Texas. He gutted the Weather Service that could have given some warning of the impending danger. He gutted FEMA, with his Sec. of Homeland Security also putting in place red tape that would cost lives and hampered a swift response. Just more incompetence from an administration of amateurs who should have stuck to reality TV shows. Yep.  He's 100% to blame. And to rub salt in the wounds, he hasn't even visited the site yet - he's too busy playing golf, stuffing up tariff deals, burying the Epstein files and hosting war criminals at the White House. Staff and equipment from FEMA, which falls under the purview of DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, couldn’t be deployed for more than 72 hours AFTER the disaster unfolded because she had put into place a requirement that such resources needed her personal approval. As with all disasters, time is crucial and because of red tape created by her, the FEMA response was hamstrung for more than 3 days!

She was probably too busy getting Botox injections and hair extensions.

ICE Barbie is an oxygen thief who I wouldn't trust to run a lemonade stand let alone the DHS.

A truly vile, repugnant creature.

But again, yes: the Trump administration is to blame for the deaths of all those children in Texas.

Quote:

Trump to blame for Texas flood deaths

Yes but only 100% responsible.

The very meteorologist who does this area was a doge victim.

Dnarever wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 10:21am:

Quote: Trump to blame for Texas flood deaths Yes but only 100% responsible. The very meteorologist who does this area was a doge victim.

Did you hear what Trump said when he visited the disaster area?

No?

Of course you didn't, because he hasn't bothered to visit.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:47am:

It is abundantly clear that Trump is directly responsible for the deaths that occurred as a result of the flooding in Texas. He gutted the Weather Service that could have given some warning of the impending danger. He gutted FEMA, with his Sec. of Homeland Security also putting in place red tape that would cost lives and hampered a swift response. Just more incompetence from an administration of amateurs who should have stuck to reality TV shows.

That is wrong. The National Weather Service gave flash flood warnings. They can only work if people pay attention.

"On Friday morning, heavy rains led to catastrophic flooding along the Guadalupe River in central Texas. 

Tragically, it appears that at least fifty people lost their lives. 

But what is particularly disturbing is that the National Weather Service (NWS) provided excellent warnings and forecasts before the event that clearly predicted a substantial threat. 

And yet, no attempt at evacuation was made.

Furthermore, weather model forecasts indicated the potential for a major precipitation event over this historically flood-prone region during the prior days."

https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2025/07/the-texas-flooding-tragedy-could-it.html

lee wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:09pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:47am: It is abundantly clear that Trump is directly responsible for the deaths that occurred as a result of the flooding in Texas. He gutted the Weather Service that could have given some warning of the impending danger. He gutted FEMA, with his Sec. of Homeland Security also putting in place red tape that would cost lives and hampered a swift response. Just more incompetence from an administration of amateurs who should have stuck to reality TV shows. That is wrong. The National Weather Service gave flash flood warnings. They can only work if people pay attention. "On Friday morning, heavy rains led to catastrophic flooding along the Guadalupe River in central Texas.  Tragically, it appears that at least fifty people lost their lives.  But what is particularly disturbing is that the National Weather Service (NWS) provided excellent warnings and forecasts before the event that clearly predicted a substantial threat.  And yet, no attempt at evacuation was made. Furthermore, weather model forecasts indicated the potential for a major precipitation event over this historically flood-prone region during the prior days." https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2025/07/the-texas-flooding-tragedy-could-it.html

What did Trump say when he visited the area, lee?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:11pm:

What did Trump say when he visited the area, lee?

What has that got to do with him gutting federal projects and being blamed for the flooding? Any visit can only come AFTER the flooding, bozo. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

This is a thread killer.

BBC Verify has examined the impact of cuts under President Trump in this area and while there has been a reduction in the workforce at the NWS, experts who we spoke to said the staffing on hand for the Texas floods appears to have been adequate.

This would take effect in the 2026 financial year which begins in October this year - so these particular cuts would not have contributed to the Texas tragedy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyndrwz00xo

This topic is yet another example of Trump Derangement Syndrome...... ::)

Belgarion wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:28pm:

This topic is yet another example of Trump Derangement Syndrome...... ::)

It's actually scum of the earth using the deaths of children to further their agenda of hate.

lee wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:11pm: What did Trump say when he visited the area, lee? What has that got to do with him gutting federal projects and being blamed for the flooding? Any visit can only come AFTER the flooding, bozo. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Dozens of small children are dead, and you're laughing your head off.

Oh dear.

And Trump still hasn't found the time to visit the area.

Looks like he couldn't care less about the harm he's caused.

Gordon wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 9:18am:

Serious question, are you retarded? The Weather Service did a good job with the information you had here. I don't think the staffing cuts contributed to this," said Andy Hazelton, a climate scientist who was laid off from NOAA where he modelled hurricane paths. While experts say the National Weather Service issued alerts in a timely manner over the weekend, the deadly incident carries warnings about what could happen if the NWS and NOAA are not properly staffed and funded in the future https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx23ye0xnnyo

How would he know given he was no longer there :D :D :D

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:35pm:

Dozens of small children are dead, and you're laughing your head off. Oh dear.

Still laughing at you kid. ;D ;D ;D ;D
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:35pm:

Looks like he couldn't care less about the harm he's caused.

So how did he cause it? ::)

Gordon wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:25pm:

This is a thread killer.

Are you sure?

This seems a little like the John West approach.  It's what you leave out that's important, but let's check.


Quote:

BBC Verify has examined the impact of cuts under President Trump in this area and while there has been a reduction in the workforce at the NWS, experts who we spoke to said the staffing on hand for the Texas floods appears to have been adequate. This would take effect in the 2026 financial year which begins in October this year - so these particular cuts would not have contributed to the Texas tragedy. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyndrwz00xo

Adequate for what? Forecasting and issuing warnings?

Maybe, but as usual, there's far more beneath the surface.

Meet Paul Yura, the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at the National Weather Service (NWS) Austin/San Antonio office. With over 32 years' experience, Yura was instrumental in communicating severe weather threats to local authorities and the public.

"Was", because that role is now empty.

Guess why?

His departure in April 2025, triggered by federal buyout offers tied to Trump's DOGE cuts, left a serious void in the region's emergency communication. By early July 2025, six out of 27 positions in that office remained unfilled, including Yura's.

Former NOAA and NWS officials highlighted that while forecasts were as accurate as possible given the circumstances, the loss of experienced personnel hindered effective communication with local authorities during the crisis.

Link

It may have killed the thread, but not the way you think it would.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 1:28pm:

Adequate for what? Forecasting and issuing warnings?

That's what the NWS does. It forecasts and issues warnings.

Do you want it to go into yearly prediction too? ::)
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 1:28pm:

Meet Paul Yura, the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at the National Weather Service (NWS) Austin/San Antonio office. With over 32 years' experience, Yura was instrumental in communicating severe weather threats to local authorities and the public. "Was", because that role is now empty.

And yet the forecasts and warnings were still done. ::)

lee wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 5:37pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:28pm: Adequate for what? Forecasting and issuing warnings? That's what the NWS does. It forecasts and issues warnings. Do you want it to go into yearly prediction too? ::) ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:28pm: Meet Paul Yura, the Warning Coordination Meteorologist at the National Weather Service (NWS) Austin/San Antonio office. With over 32 years' experience, Yura was instrumental in communicating severe weather threats to local authorities and the public. "Was", because that role is now empty. And yet the forecasts and warnings were still done. ::)

Why hasn't Trump visited the area, lee?

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:55pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 9:18am: Serious question, are you retarded? The Weather Service did a good job with the information you had here. I don't think the staffing cuts contributed to this," said Andy Hazelton, a climate scientist who was laid off from NOAA where he modelled hurricane paths. While experts say the National Weather Service issued alerts in a timely manner over the weekend, the deadly incident carries warnings about what could happen if the NWS and NOAA are not properly staffed and funded in the future https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx23ye0xnnyo How would he know given he was no longer there :D :D :D

The warning came at 1:30 am with no way to get the warning to the sleeping victims.

Previously the projections and warnings to put people on stand by would have gone out days in advance.

Dnarever wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 6:35pm:

Previously the projections and warnings to put people on stand by would have gone out days in advance.

"THE DAY BEFORE, the NWS Forecast Office in San Antonia put out a flood watch for central Texas Hill Country, which included the site of the tragedy."

[url]  https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2025/07/the-texas-flooding-tragedy-could-it.html[/url]

"Tuesday, July 2

On July 2, the Texas Division of Emergency Management said it activated "state emergency response resources in anticipation of increased threats of flooding in parts of West and Central Texas heading into the holiday weekend."
Thursday, July 3

10:48 a.m.: The National Weather Service Weather Prediction Center upgrades portions of south-central Texas, including Kerr County and surrounding areas, to a level 2 of 4 risk for excessive rainfall.

1:18 p.m.: A flood watch is issued by the NWS Austin/San Antonio office, including Kerr County and surrounding areas in south-central Texas, through Friday morning.

The alert mentions locally heavy rainfall could cause flash flooding in the region with isolated amounts of 5 to 7 inches possible, adding, "Excessive runoff may result in flooding of rivers, creeks, streams, and other low-lying and flood-prone locations. Creeks and streams may rise out of their banks."

6:10 p.m.: The Weather Prediction Center highlights the south-central Texas region (including Texas Hill Country) as an area of increasing concern for slow-moving, training thunderstorms (meaning rounds of thunderstorms moving over the same area) with the potential for rainfall rates exceeding 3 inches per hour into the evening hours and beyond."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-catastrophic-flooding-texas-claims-lives-27/story?id=123500139

And that was all the day before the flood.

"Friday, July 4

1:14 a.m.: A flash flood warning is issued for Bandera and Kerr counties and include the "considerable" alert tag.

Flash flood warnings with the impact-based warning tags "considerable" or "catastrophic" denote high-damage threats, according to the NWS, and will automatically trigger Wireless Emergency Alerts (WEAs) on enabled mobile devices, including NOAA weather radios.

This ensures only the most life-threatening flash flood events prompt urgent public notifications.

This NWS alert mentioned flash flooding and highlighted the threat of "life-threatening flash flooding of creeks and streams, urban areas, highways, streets and underpasses" for locations like Kerrville, Ingram, Hunt, and the Kerr Wildlife Management area to name a few.

3:35 a.m.: The original flash flood warning is upgraded and includes more serious and specific wording:

"Move to higher ground now. Act quickly to protect your life. Flooding is occurring or is imminent. It is important to know where you are relative to streams, rivers, or creeks which can become killers in heavy rains. Campers and hikers should avoid streams or creeks."

4:03 a.m.: The flash flood warning is upgraded to a flash flood emergency for south-central Kerr County, Including Hunt.

"Numerous low water crossings as well as the Guadalupe River at Hunt are flooding. Between 4 and 10 inches of rain have fallen. The expected rainfall rate is 2 to 4 inches in 1 hour. Additional rainfall amounts of 2 to 4 inches are possible in the warned area. Flash flooding is already occurring," the NWS wrote.

It continued, "This is a FLASH FLOOD EMERGENCY for South-central Kerr County, including Hunt. This is a PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION. SEEK HIGHER GROUND NOW!"

4:35 a.m.: First reports of flash flooding start coming in from local officials, including the Kerr County Sheriff's Office, reporting flash flooding at low water crossings."

ibid

The day of the flood.

You should make sure you get your timelines straight. ::)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 6:31pm:

Why hasn't Trump visited the area, lee?

lee wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:35pm: Dozens of small children are dead, and you're laughing your head off. Oh dear. Still laughing at you kid. ;D ;D ;D ;D greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:35pm: Looks like he couldn't care less about the harm he's caused. So how did he cause it? ::)

What did he do to cause the flooding? ::)

lee wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 7:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 6:31pm: Why hasn't Trump visited the area, lee? lee wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:57pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:35pm: Dozens of small children are dead, and you're laughing your head off. Oh dear. Still laughing at you kid. ;D ;D ;D ;D greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:35pm: Looks like he couldn't care less about the harm he's caused. So how did he cause it? ::) What did he do to cause the flooding? ::)

He got elected. Nothing he has done to the weather service takes effect until October.

Peccary is, like the Left, obsessed with trying to make others feel guilty over anything he can find (usually trash) to use for his emotional blackmailing/trolling.
All this, a reflection of his character here, as he pursues his moral superiority over us, like an Anti-Villain doomed to deny that what he does - is an evil thing in itself.
Him drinking a cafe-latte in Perth, makes him no different to a Houso on the grog in Sydney.  Both in denial that their beloved Media, is not Politics and hence why Peccary fails to fit into this Forum upon a pro-political positive way.

He is only here to destroy.

Not a very good person is the Gwoggy.
His intelligence is very misplaced.

lee wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 7:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 6:35pm: Previously the projections and warnings to put people on stand by would have gone out days in advance. "THE DAY BEFORE, the NWS Forecast Office in San Antonia put out a flood watch for central Texas Hill Country, which included the site of the tragedy." [url]  https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2025/07/the-texas-flooding-tragedy-could-it.html[/url] "Tuesday, July 2 On July 2, the Texas Division of Emergency Management said it activated "state emergency response resources in anticipation of increased threats of flooding in parts of West and Central Texas heading into the holiday weekend." Thursday, July 3 10:48 a.m.: The National Weather Service Weather Prediction Center upgrades portions of south-central Texas, including Kerr County and surrounding areas, to a level 2 of 4 risk for excessive rainfall. 1:18 p.m.: A flood watch is issued by the NWS Austin/San Antonio office, including Kerr County and surrounding areas in south-central Texas, through Friday morning. The alert mentions locally heavy rainfall could cause flash flooding in the region with isolated amounts of 5 to 7 inches possible, adding, "Excessive runoff may result in flooding of rivers, creeks, streams, and other low-lying and flood-prone locations. Creeks and streams may rise out of their banks." 6:10 p.m.: The Weather Prediction Center highlights the south-central Texas region (including Texas Hill Country) as an area of increasing concern for slow-moving, training thunderstorms (meaning rounds of thunderstorms moving over the same area) with the potential for rainfall rates exceeding 3 inches per hour into the evening hours and beyond." https://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-catastrophic-flooding-texas-claims-lives-27/story?id=123500139 And that was all the day before the flood. "Friday, July 4 1:14 a.m.: A flash flood warning is issued for Bandera and Kerr counties and include the "considerable" alert tag. Flash flood warnings with the impact-based warning tags "considerable" or "catastrophic" denote high-damage threats, according to the NWS, and will automatically trigger Wireless Emergency Alerts (WEAs) on enabled mobile devices, including NOAA weather radios. This ensures only the most life-threatening flash flood events prompt urgent public notifications. This NWS alert mentioned flash flooding and highlighted the threat of "life-threatening flash flooding of creeks and streams, urban areas, highways, streets and underpasses" for locations like Kerrville, Ingram, Hunt, and the Kerr Wildlife Management area to name a few. 3:35 a.m.: The original flash flood warning is upgraded and includes more serious and specific wording: "Move to higher ground now. Act quickly to protect your life. Flooding is occurring or is imminent. It is important to know where you are relative to streams, rivers, or creeks which can become killers in heavy rains. Campers and hikers should avoid streams or creeks." 4:03 a.m.: The flash flood warning is upgraded to a flash flood emergency for south-central Kerr County, Including Hunt. "Numerous low water crossings as well as the Guadalupe River at Hunt are flooding. Between 4 and 10 inches of rain have fallen. The expected rainfall rate is 2 to 4 inches in 1 hour. Additional rainfall amounts of 2 to 4 inches are possible in the warned area. Flash flooding is already occurring," the NWS wrote. It continued, "This is a FLASH FLOOD EMERGENCY for South-central Kerr County, including Hunt. This is a PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION. SEEK HIGHER GROUND NOW!" 4:35 a.m.: First reports of flash flooding start coming in from local officials, including the Kerr County Sheriff's Office, reporting flash flooding at low water crossings." ibid The day of the flood. You should make sure you get your timelines straight. ::)

Quote:

Yes it all worked just great but the people in the flood areas got no warnings.

Rather defeats the purpose ?

Is this a butthurt response by Lefties because of their inept Diversity cockup during the Californian fires. You know the ones started by homeless illegals camping in the bush lands and parks?

Dnarever wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 10:55pm:

Quote: Yes it all worked just great but the people in the flood areas got no warnings.

So where did you find that "quote", it wasn't mine and it doesn't appear on this thread. So why didn't they get the warnings that were given? Or was it that they didn't heed them? They didn't think they needed them?

You are such a fool. ::)

Belgarion wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:28pm:

This topic is yet another example of Trump Derangement Syndrome...... ::)

I agree, Trump and his MAGA cult members are deranged.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 3:21pm:

I agree, Trump and his MAGA cult members are deranged.

So where did you get the idea that Trump was to blame for the Texas flood deaths? Was it one of your media sources? Or just your take? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 3:21pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:28pm: This topic is yet another example of Trump Derangement Syndrome...... ::) I agree, Trump and his MAGA cult members are deranged.

Is that your effort to sound very convincing?
Kinda B-grade. ::)

lee wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 6:15pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:21pm: I agree, Trump and his MAGA cult members are deranged. So where did you get the idea that Trump was to blame for the Texas flood deaths? Was it one of your media sources? Or just your take? ;D ;D ;D ;D

That's okay, Lee. We're all wondering whether you're to blame too.

After all, you both push the lie that global warming isn't happening/doesn't matter/isn't anything to worry about, when in actual fact, it's the cause of all these so-called random, once-in-a-lifetime disasters.

Increased rainfall and floods, you see, are the result of the earth heating up, precipitating condensation, forming rain clouds and causing, you know, torrential rain.

The earth heating up is the result of increased CO2 emissions, which have increased average global temperatures by at least 0.2 percent each decade since the 1970s.

I know I know, it's so unfair, so complicated, and you'll refer to some Tim Flannery interview from 2001 to say what krap. But do you know?

It is happening, and these are the results. California wildfires in Winter, Texan floods in Summer, increasingly devastating hurricanes during the cyclone seasons. After all, with population increasing, housing density expanding and CO2 levels through the roof, natural disasters caused by global warming are happening all over the world, right before our eyes.

Your DL is the first American prez to dismiss them out of hand. What's more, he's spent the past ten years telling the kinds of lies that spook Americans out of federally-funded disaster-prevention projects and is planning to close FEMA down altogether.

Locally based officials in Texan flood-prone areas rejected FEMA's offer of an early warning system in 2021. They spent their pandemic relief funds in Kerr County on raises to local officials and a new walking path. Since then, funding requests to Texan water authorities went under-funded, leaving locals to fend for themselves.

There is, of course, a bit of a pattern here.

Throughout the Sunbelt during the 2024 hurricane season, MAGA supporters were out with guns, protecting their property from FEMA, rumoured to be coming to seize their land.

While the prez toured the hardest hit areas, your DL was in Mar a Lago, blaming the hurricanes on Sleepy Joe Biden. DL said he didn't know if it was corruption or incompetence, but perhaps it was time to get rid of FEMA altogether.

When your DL finally visited North Carolina in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene, your DL claimed Sleepy Joe had rejected funds to Republican states. The governors of North and South Carolina both came out to dismiss this claim. The governor of Florida refused to comment.

He had refused to take Sleepy Joe's calls at all.

When your DL visited LA in the aftermath of the California fires, he blamed the governor, Gavin "New Scum". DL was campaigning to become the president of the US of A at the time. He put the cause of the unprecedented Winter fires down to a protected species of endangered fish, 4000 miles away from the fires in remote Northern California.

When your DL finally decided to visit Texas yesterday, he praised the work of state and federal authorities, saying they had done an incredible job, the likes of which we've never seen before.

DL praised Kristi Noem during their cabinet meeting on Tuesday, saying nobody had gone in quicker than FEMA. Kristi had to explain that states respond to natural disasters, not FEMA. She went on to remind him of his own plans to can the federal agency:

”We’re cutting through the paperwork", she said, "streamlining it, much like your vision of how FEMA should operate.”

DL must have given Kristi a strange look, so she went on to explain the importance of giving out hugs.

The fake news wanted to know more, so they asked his press secretary Karoline Leavitt, who's response was reminiscent of the message coming out of factory megaphones in China, when Mao was in power:

“The president wants to ensure that American citizens always have what they need during times of need,” she said. "Whether that assistance comes from states or the federal government, that is a policy discussion that will continue."

She refused to take any further questions on the subject.

So, is your DL to blame for the waters of a river rising over 20 feet in the space of a few pre-dawn hours?

No. Is he to blame for spreading lies, creating chaos, overturning civil political discourse, sewing political division, creating scapegoats, promoting conspiracies, sabotaging the US federal government, undermining the work of state governments, destroying as many of America's institutions as he can and exploiting the system for his own personal profit?

I think we all know the answer to that, Lee. There's only one question that remains.

Do you support it?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Oh, look.  lee's gone     ;D

Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 12:12am:

After all, you both push the lie that global warming isn't happening/doesn't matter/isn't anything to worry about, when in actual fact, it's the cause of all these so-called random, once-in-a-lifetime disasters.

And you have proof? Go for it. ;)


Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 12:12am:

Increased rainfall and floods, you see, are the result of the earth heating up, precipitating condensation, forming rain clouds and causing, you know, torrential rain.

And where is this increased rainfall? Show the history and prove it. Same with floods, of course with more people, more impervious surfaces there may be increased flooding, but that doesn't make it climate change. ;)


Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 12:12am:

The earth heating up is the result of increased CO2 emissions, which have increased average global temperatures by at least 0.2 percent each decade since the 1970s.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Please show CO2 as causation. ;)

And don't forget increasing CO2 levels have a reducing effect on temperature.


Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 12:12am:

It is happening, and these are the results. California wildfires in Winter, Texan floods in Summer, increasingly devastating hurricanes during the cyclone seasons. After all, with population increasing, housing density expanding and CO2 levels through the roof, natural disasters caused by global warming are happening all over the world, right before our eyes.

California has a history of winter fires, try blaming the drying Santa Ana winds.

"Data from California wildfires since 1984 shows that only four major fires have occurred in the winter months, with the majority of large-scale blazes sparking in summer. Before this year’s Palisades and Eaton fires, the largest January wildfire in California history was the 2001 Viejas Fire, which burned over 17 square miles."

https://www.livenowfox.com/news/southern-california-winter-wildfires

I know you don't like Fox, but I am sure if you searched your favourite news site they would have something. ;)

So do summer floods in Texas include May? It certainly ain't winter. Try 1972 South Central Texas Flood.

https://repository.library.noaa.gov/view/noaa/7006

"Increasingly devastating cyclones"? Is that what you want to go with? Not perhaps increased intensity cyclones? Cyclone devastation is a population, property ownership problem. The more people, the more they own ... the greater the devastation. ;)


Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 12:12am:

What's more, he's spent the past ten years telling the kinds of lies that spook Americans out of federally-funded disaster-prevention projects and is planning to close FEMA down altogether.

You mean like the Asheville floods, where the locals said they didn't want or need flood mitigation, in an area prone to flooding? ::)


Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 12:12am:

Locally based officials in Texan flood-prone areas rejected FEMA's offer of an early warning system in 2021.

So now locally based politicians are a euphemism for Presidential? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 12:12am:

When your DL visited LA in the aftermath of the California fires, he blamed the governor, Gavin "New Scum".

You mean California's not doing enough burn control was Trump's fault? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 12:12am:

He put the cause of the unprecedented Winter fires down to a protected species of endangered fish, 4000 miles away from the fires in remote Northern California.

Did he? The cause of the fire? Or merely the lack of water to fight the fires? You know the pulling down of dams. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

"The largest dam removal project in U.S. history has been completed on the Klamath River near the California-Oregon border, restoring a continuous flow of water to nearly 400 miles of river habitat for the first time in over a century.

California officials announced that the final work has concluded on the removal of four large hydroelectric dams that previously blocked the river. Officials say the estimated $450 million project has finished ahead of schedule and within budget.

Governor Gavin Newsom’s office touted the project’s completion in a statement Wednesday.

“This is a monumental achievement—not just for the Klamath River but for our entire state, nation and planet. By taking down these outdated dams, we are giving salmon and other species a chance to thrive once again while also restoring an essential lifeline for tribal communities who have long depended on the health of the river,” said Newsom."

https://missoulacurrent.com/california-dam-removal/

Most of California is desert like if not actual desert. It often suffers water shortages with an increasing population. But they don't need dams in a hostile environment? ::)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 9:18am:

Oh, look.  lee's gone     ;D

Yeah, I was watching the Dockers. So sue me. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Peccary runs away often. At times, he runs to his board to repost the topic under his control. Coward.

Clearly Albo was responsible then for the flood disasters around the Manning...

lee wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 12:55pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 12:12am: After all, you both push the lie that global warming isn't happening/doesn't matter/isn't anything to worry about, when in actual fact, it's the cause of all these so-called random, once-in-a-lifetime disasters. And you have proof? Go for it. ;) Karnal wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 12:12am: Increased rainfall and floods, you see, are the result of the earth heating up, precipitating condensation, forming rain clouds and causing, you know, torrential rain. And where is this increased rainfall? Show the history and prove it. Same with floods, of course with more people, more impervious surfaces there may be increased flooding, but that doesn't make it climate change. ;) Karnal wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 12:12am: The earth heating up is the result of increased CO2 emissions, which have increased average global temperatures by at least 0.2 percent each decade since the 1970s. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Please show CO2 as causation. ;) And don't forget increasing CO2 levels have a reducing effect on temperature. Karnal wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 12:12am: It is happening, and these are the results. California wildfires in Winter, Texan floods in Summer, increasingly devastating hurricanes during the cyclone seasons. After all, with population increasing, housing density expanding and CO2 levels through the roof, natural disasters caused by global warming are happening all over the world, right before our eyes. California has a history of winter fires, try blaming the drying Santa Ana winds. "Data from California wildfires since 1984 shows that only four major fires have occurred in the winter months, with the majority of large-scale blazes sparking in summer. Before this year’s Palisades and Eaton fires, the largest January wildfire in California history was the 2001 Viejas Fire, which burned over 17 square miles." https://www.livenowfox.com/news/southern-california-winter-wildfires I know you don't like Fox, but I am sure if you searched your favourite news site they would have something. ;) So do summer floods in Texas include May? It certainly ain't winter. Try 1972 South Central Texas Flood. https://repository.library.noaa.gov/view/noaa/7006 "Increasingly devastating cyclones"? Is that what you want to go with? Not perhaps increased intensity cyclones? Cyclone devastation is a population, property ownership problem. The more people, the more they own ... the greater the devastation. ;) Karnal wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 12:12am: What's more, he's spent the past ten years telling the kinds of lies that spook Americans out of federally-funded disaster-prevention projects and is planning to close FEMA down altogether. You mean like the Asheville floods, where the locals said they didn't want or need flood mitigation, in an area prone to flooding? ::) Karnal wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 12:12am: Locally based officials in Texan flood-prone areas rejected FEMA's offer of an early warning system in 2021. So now locally based politicians are a euphemism for Presidential? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Karnal wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 12:12am: When your DL visited LA in the aftermath of the California fires, he blamed the governor, Gavin "New Scum". You mean California's not doing enough burn control was Trump's fault? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [quote author=Karnal link=1752187673/36#36 date=1752329552]He put the cause of the unprecedented Winter fires down to a protected species of endan "The largest dam removal project in U.S. history has been completed on the Klamath River near the California-Oregon border, restoring a continuous flow of water to nearly 400 miles of river habitat for the first time in over a century. California officials announced that the final work has concluded on the removal of four large hydroelectric dams that previously blocked the river. Officials say the estimated $450 million project has finished ahead of schedule and within budget. Governor Gavin Newsom’s office touted the project’s completion in a statement Wednesday. “This is a monumental achievement—not just for the Klamath River but for our entire state, nation and planet. By taking down these outdated dams, we are giving salmon and other species a chance to thrive once again while also restoring an essential lifeline for tribal communities who have long depended on the health of the river,” said Newsom." https://missoulacurrent.com/california-dam-removal/ Most of California is desert like if not actual desert. It often suffers water shortages with an increasing population. But they don't need dams in a hostile environment? ::)

Desert, is it?

The Klamath River is over 1000 km from Los Angeles, dear. There is no functional system of rivers or aqueducts that carries water this far.

Not in modern Californian history, anyway. Who knows? Maybe the Aztecs devised a system.

Not sure they ever made it to Northern California though. Not too many deserts there, dear.

Now, we'll repeat the question put to you: do you support it?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 8:03pm:

Desert, is it? The Klamath River is over 1000 km from Los Angeles, dear. There is no functional system of rivers or aqueducts that carries water this far.

I wrote most of California is  "desert like" not that most of California is desert. California is 25% desert. You really do have trouble with the written word, ::)

"The Klamath River (Karuk: Ishkêesh,[9] Klamath: Koke,[10] Yurok: Hehlkeek 'We-Roy[11]) is a 257-mile (414 km) long river in southern Oregon and northern California. Beginning near Klamath Falls in the Oregon high desert, it flows west through the Cascade Range and Klamath Mountains before reaching the temperate rainforest of California's North Coast, where it empties into the Pacific Ocean."


Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 8:03pm:

Now, we'll repeat the question put to you: do you support it?

Do I support what? A reference to your conspiracy theories?  No.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

What happened to all your claims on climate change? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jul 14^th, 2025 at 5:19pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 8:03pm: Desert, is it? The Klamath River is over 1000 km from Los Angeles, dear. There is no functional system of rivers or aqueducts that carries water this far. I wrote most of California is  "desert like" not that most of California is desert. California is 25% desert. You really do have trouble with the written word, ::) "The Klamath River (Karuk: Ishkêesh,[9] Klamath: Koke,[10] Yurok: Hehlkeek 'We-Roy[11]) is a 257-mile (414 km) long river in southern Oregon and northern California. Beginning near Klamath Falls in the Oregon high desert, it flows west through the Cascade Range and Klamath Mountains before reaching the temperate rainforest of California's North Coast, where it empties into the Pacific Ocean." Karnal wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 8:03pm: Now, we'll repeat the question put to you: do you support it? Do I support what? A reference to your conspiracy theories?  No.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What happened to all your claims on climate change? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Don't want to say, eh?

There there, Lee, we understand.

You always were rather timid about expressing your views, no?

Karnal wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 11:13am:

Don't want to say, eh?

No pet. What you need is to articulate clearly.


Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 12:12am:

Is he to blame for spreading lies, creating chaos, overturning civil political discourse, sewing political division, creating scapegoats, promoting conspiracies, sabotaging the US federal government, undermining the work of state governments, destroying as many of America's institutions as he can and exploiting the system for his own personal profit?

That is just a smorgasbord of hate. On one hand you oppose underminiung state governments but on the other you want FEMA to control state governments,  What personal profit? Instances please. ;)

Of course you may not want to say specifics. ;)

But speaking of "Don't want to say, eh?" Why don't you wants to say on the climate?'' Did you know James Hansen, the father of modern AGW/CC, wrote a paper in 2005?

"“[highlight]Our climate model driven mainly by increasing human-made greenhouse gases and aerosols[highlight] , among other forcings, calculates that Earth is now absorbing 0.85 ± 0.15 watts per square meter more energy from the Sun than it is emitting to space. This imbalance is confirmed by precise measurements of increasing ocean heat content over the past 10 years. "
Earth's Energy Imbalance: Confirmation and Implications

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1110252

So the model was DRIVEN by GHG's, and then of course before ARGO bouys were more widely distributed the Ocean Heat Content, even for the top 2000 metres was largely unknown. And 4000 ARGO buoys to cover the top 2000 metres for entire world's oceans is simmply laughable.

Sadly that is the state of Climate Seance. ::)

lee wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 12:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:13am: Don't want to say, eh? No pet. What you need is to articulate clearly. Karnal wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 12:12am: Is he to blame for spreading lies, creating chaos, overturning civil political discourse, sewing political division, creating scapegoats, promoting conspiracies, sabotaging the US federal government, undermining the work of state governments, destroying as many of America's institutions as he can and exploiting the system for his own personal profit? That is just a smorgasbord of hate. On one hand you oppose underminiung state governments but on the other you want FEMA to control state governments,  What personal profit? Instances please. ;) Of course you may not want to say specifics. ;) But speaking of "Don't want to say, eh?" Why don't you wants to say on the climate?'' Did you know James Hansen, the father of modern AGW/CC, wrote a paper in 2005? "“[highlight]Our climate model driven mainly by increasing human-made greenhouse gases and aerosols[highlight] , among other forcings, calculates that Earth is now absorbing 0.85 ± 0.15 watts per square meter more energy from the Sun than it is emitting to space. This imbalance is confirmed by precise measurements of increasing ocean heat content over the past 10 years. " Earth's Energy Imbalance: Confirmation and Implications https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1110252 So the model was DRIVEN by GHG's, and then of course before ARGO bouys were more widely distributed the Ocean Heat Content, even for the top 2000 metres was largely unknown. And 4000 ARGO buoys to cover the top 2000 metres for entire world's oceans is simmply laughable. Sadly that is the state of Climate Seance. ::)

Not at all, Lee, it's a simple question.

If you don't want to answer it, just say that. I refuse to answer.

Now, if you asked silly old moi if I supported lies, crime, the destruction of our institutions, trade agreements and contracts, overturning constitutions and dismissing the very foundation of truth, justice and the American way, I'd say I most certainly do not.

How could you suggest such a thing? I'd say. Are you mad?

But you? No answer.

Rather telling don't you think?

Karnal wrote on Jul 16^th, 2025 at 5:43am:

Now, if you asked silly old moi if I supported lies, crime, the destruction of our institutions, trade agreements and contracts, overturning constitutions and dismissing the very foundation of truth, justice and the American way, I'd say I most certainly do not.

So where was the proof of your statements? Didn't want to say eh? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Karnal wrote on Jul 16^th, 2025 at 5:43am:

Rather telling don't you think?

Especcially for you because you claim transparency for your beliefs.

So what happened to your climate proof?

The dog ate your homework again? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jul 16^th, 2025 at 12:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 5:43am: Now, if you asked silly old moi if I supported lies, crime, the destruction of our institutions, trade agreements and contracts, overturning constitutions and dismissing the very foundation of truth, justice and the American way, I'd say I most certainly do not. So where was the proof of your statements? Didn't want to say eh? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Karnal wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 5:43am: Rather telling don't you think? Especcially for you because you claim transparency for your beliefs. So what happened to your climate proof? The dog ate your homework again? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

All good, thanks, Lee. After three goes, I think we have all the answers we need, don't you?

You absolutely support it.

Karnal wrote on Jul 16^th, 2025 at 5:43am:

Now, if you asked silly old moi if I supported lies, crime, the destruction of our institutions, trade agreements and contracts, overturning constitutions and dismissing the very foundation of truth, justice and the American way, I'd say I most certainly do not.

Strangely overturning constitutions is not a problem. All constitutions are living products, that may from time to time be amended, even here in Australia.

However you seem to lack some perspective.

The Paris Agreement, formerly known as the Paris Treaty on Climate Change, was not enabled to be a treaty. Why was that? It was because Obama wouldn't take it to Congress for ratification. So Obama trammelled over Congressional approval, and in so doing did more to damage the Constitution than anyone else.

But I think you knew that, it is just have your preferred winners. ;)

"The Paris Agreement is a legally binding international treaty on climate change. It was adopted by 195 Parties at the UN Climate Change Conference (COP21) in Paris, France, on 12 December 2015. It entered into force on 4 November 2016."

https://unfccc.int/process-and-meetings/the-paris-agreement

And even that is wrong because it isn't legally binding. It has no enforcement powers.

lee wrote on Jul 17^th, 2025 at 12:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 5:43am: Now, if you asked silly old moi if I supported lies, crime, the destruction of our institutions, trade agreements and contracts, overturning constitutions and dismissing the very foundation of truth, justice and the American way, I'd say I most certainly do not. Strangely overturning constitutions is not a problem. All constitutions are living products, that may from time to time be amended, even here in Australia. However you seem to lack some perspective. The Paris Agreement, formerly known as the Paris Treaty on Climate Change, was not enabled to be a treaty. Why was that? It was because Obama wouldn't take it to Congress for ratification. So Obama trammelled over Congressional approval, and in so doing did more to damage the Constitution than anyone else. But I think you knew that, it is just have your preferred winners. ;) "The Paris Agreement is a legally binding international treaty on climate change. It was adopted by 195 Parties at the UN Climate Change Conference (COP21) in Paris, France, on 12 December 2015. It entered into force on 4 November 2016." https://unfccc.int/process-and-meetings/the-paris-agreement And even that is wrong because it isn't legally binding. It has no enforcement powers.

Like you've agreed, dear, you support it. And you support the lies to get you there.

Thanks, Lee. We're done here now.

Karnal wrote on Jul 17^th, 2025 at 8:02pm:

Like you've agreed, dear, you support it. And you support the lies to get you there.

So you have cognitive dissonance as well? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jul 17^th, 2025 at 8:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 17th, 2025 at 8:02pm: Like you've agreed, dear, you support it. And you support the lies to get you there. So you have cognitive dissonance as well? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh look, you're down to one line - and five chuckles.

Looks like we're finally making progress, ya?

Blaming Trump for the floods is the Left's meager attempt to hide from their disastrous incompetence of diversity narrative with the Californian wild fires.

Karnal wrote on Jul 18^th, 2025 at 9:02am:

Oh look, you're down to one line - and five chuckles. Looks like we're finally making progress, ya?

Yeah, because all your arguments got shot down.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Karnal wrote on Jul 18^th, 2025 at 9:02am:

Oh look, you're down to one line - and five chuckles. Looks like we're finally making progress, ya?

Yeah, because all your arguments got shot down.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Jul 18^th, 2025 at 12:39pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 18th, 2025 at 9:02am: Oh look, you're down to one line - and five chuckles. Looks like we're finally making progress, ya? Yeah, because all your arguments got shot down.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Hang on, did you just post your four chuckles again?

Good show. Is that your final answer?

And the responses by you are getting weaker and weaker, like a vampire exposed to sunlight.

lee wrote on Jul 19^th, 2025 at 1:32pm:

And the responses by you are getting weaker and weaker, like a vampire exposed to sunlight.

;D ;D ;D ;D