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Title: Victoria Disaster Post by Boris on Jul 5th, 2025 at 8:34am |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Jul 5th, 2025 at 9:56am
That's been the entire aim all along from the New Fascists of the Left, who imagine they have some Divine Right to dictate to The People at their whim.
I've been warning yez all for years. All those years you imagined, for example, that 1984 was a possible future or took place in some far away country with a different 'culture' etc I've been telling you, as I told a friend of my cousin in the 1970's - 1984 is upon us here and now. Now the pterodactyls are coming home to roost on your rooftops. Governments in YOUR country have for years been doing end runs around Law, around civil rights,around democracy of the people, around genuine equality, around simple truth being the yardstick by which we judge and are judged, and around every single social institution that once held sway in the West and held the West roughly together. It all began with 'feminism' and the 'equal employment opportunity' that DICTATED that work places become half way houses for women, those who struggled with English, Abos and the like and increasingly the 'neuro-diverse'. 'Great social movements' were set in train in place of simple humanity and 'a fair go for all equally', and not only were countless harmless and even gentle individuals crushed underneath those movements, but entire social institutions were too. Once again - if you don't see the very things I am discussing here and now, and have been for decades now - you are beyond saving. This issue is but one of those things used to undermine and destroy OUR society and culture to suit some frankly insane ideology of a New Supremacism for very clearly delineated and specified groups... the New Nazis. Footnote:- I warned yez all before THIS 'Labor' was elected time before this one - that AlboGuv would, like AbbottGov - would be a watershed in Australian politics. Clearly now the battle lines are being drawn up while we, The People, continue to sleep, some even dreaming that we are living in a New Age Nirvana while the ship is sunk beneath us. I TOLD YOU SO! |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Brian Ross on Jul 5th, 2025 at 2:10pm Boris wrote on Jul 5th, 2025 at 8:34am:
Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Frank on Jul 5th, 2025 at 3:57pm
After five decades of failed policies demanding separate rights, with no mention of responsibility, this [ Yoorrook] report demands that we formally and permanently cement victimhood into Australian law – demanding more money, more separatism, ranging from the criminal justice system to education and in many other areas.
There is no mention of a genuinely empowering future for Indigenous people; the vision of living in a free and democratic country where every Australian is bound together by a social contract comprising unifying freedoms and socially cohesive responsibilities is given short shrift in favour of an outdated black-armband view of Australia. This report, by telling another generation of Indigenous people that nothing good has come to this continent after settlement in 1788 except “genocide”, is a badge of shame. Not just for the Yoorrook commissioners and the Andrews government that created it with terms of reference that ensured this outcome. The shame of this report extends to many other elites across many years who have indulged a separatist project that leaves little children to mull over actionable cultural rights instead of their rights to physical and mental safety, not to mention their right to schooling that actually educates them. The shame of this report extends to judges who indulge themselves by undermining High Court authority when announcing that “sovereignty has not been ceded” while delivering an acknowledgment of country. The shame encompasses academics who, in a coagulating consensus, have ignored clear and unambiguous Australian law to confect a “constitutional legitimacy crisis” that claims Australia is not one nation. It covers those ABC hosts who bleed on air with more self-indulgent posturing seeking to replace Sydney with “Gadigal land”. This band of secondary separatists will be pleased with this report. The rest of the country will recognise it as final proof of the tragic impossibility of reconciliation between Indigenous activists and mainstream Australia. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/tell-the-truth-were-a-single-sovereign-country/news-story/21abc7e5595e9b190c7db96c7d07c7d4 An important point : no reconciliation is possible with people who concede no positive from European colonisation and modern Australia. |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Brian Ross on Jul 5th, 2025 at 7:09pm
Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Jul 5th, 2025 at 8:10pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 5th, 2025 at 7:09pm:
The Twilight Zone, is that where you invented the extra long bayonets that you can’t produce any evidence for? |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Belgarion on Jul 5th, 2025 at 9:23pm
The Victorian government lives in a reality utterly outside that of the mainstream. The referendum for an Aboriginal 'voice' was overwhelmingly rejected, yet these clowns persist with the idea. Note that in all these demands by the activists there is no actual statement of settlement. No saying that if the government meets this particular demand we consider that matter settled. It is in fact a claim for perpetual reparations that must be totally rejected.
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Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Boris on Jul 6th, 2025 at 9:18am Brian Ross wrote on Jul 5th, 2025 at 7:09pm:
Whenever anyone discusses how dreadful and evil the crimes committed by Aborigines and the tyranny by governments in imposing this horror on us and shoving this garbage down our throats - all Brian can say is this. It is demeaning and he is saying our words and concerns are worthless and we are worthless for expressing these concerns and discussing this topic. |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Aquarius on Jul 6th, 2025 at 9:21am Boris wrote on Jul 5th, 2025 at 8:34am:
Looking at the comments .... Katherine Deves Mother of Daughters | Happy Wife | Lawyer | Host of TALK STRAIGHT on NEWSMAX AUSTRALIA | Failed Liberal Candidate 2022 "A state cannot make a treaty with its own people If they want a treaty they must renounce their citizenship & hand back every benefit like Medicare or Centrelink first." Good point! I voted for Katherine Deves back in 2022. I remember talking to her on the Corso about various issues before the election. Unlike Zali Steggall (who won), Katherine is willing to take on the controversial topics. [smiley=thumbup.gif] |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Jul 6th, 2025 at 10:26am Brian Ross wrote on Jul 5th, 2025 at 2:10pm:
Thanks, Bayonet Brian, an observation only you could aspire to. |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Jul 6th, 2025 at 11:03am Aquarius wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 9:21am:
Always nice to see politicians thinking correctly and using the same words I do in discussing real issues and outcomes and requirements to fit those issues. |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Brian Ross on Jul 6th, 2025 at 12:45pm Boris wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 9:18am:
When you actually offer a solution, "Boris" or accept that someone else has solution, you will have exited the Twilight Zone but until then, you remain trapped in it's maw. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Boris on Jul 6th, 2025 at 2:43pm
There is no solution and nobody has a solution because a solution does not exist.
You chose your path and end at your destination. That is life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n8uX-6dzoY |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Boris on Jul 6th, 2025 at 2:51pm Boris wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 2:43pm:
And this - I have witnessed this many times as an Ambulance driver. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH21tRLcKFk&t=3s |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Brian Ross on Jul 6th, 2025 at 5:20pm
Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Frank on Jul 6th, 2025 at 6:16pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 12:45pm:
You have never offered any actual solution to anything, Twatlight Zone Bbwiyawn. Rolling your rheumatic, unseeing eyes and tut tutting is not a solution to anything, you snivelling plonker. |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Jul 6th, 2025 at 6:29pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 5:20pm:
And until you reveal the source of the ‘’long bayonets’’ that you claim were only issued to the Light Horse then you will remain in the Twilight Zone. |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Boris on Jul 7th, 2025 at 7:02am Boris wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 9:18am:
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Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by lee on Jul 7th, 2025 at 10:53am Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 6:29pm:
"Unlike cavalry, that were trained to fight from horseback and equipped with long swords, the Light Horse men were trained to dismount and go into combat on foot equipped with shorter bayonets, a rifle and a bandolier carrying 90 rounds of ammunition. " https://www.beersheba100.com.au/anzacs/light-horse-men.html You mean Bwian doesn't know all? Oh dear. My life will never be the same. ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Jul 7th, 2025 at 12:36pm
The long bayonet was unwieldy at close quarters... a short spike is more effective, but a 'sword bayonet' has other uses - including it CAN be swung like a sword at an opponent ... the long job sure put the brown in the pants of opponents though ....
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Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Boris on Jul 7th, 2025 at 5:19pm Boris wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 2:43pm:
There is no solution to this - they are just savages Watch and see for yourself |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Brian Ross on Jul 7th, 2025 at 5:37pm Boris wrote on Jul 7th, 2025 at 5:19pm:
Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Boris on Jul 7th, 2025 at 6:26pm Boris wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 9:18am:
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Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Brian Ross on Jul 7th, 2025 at 7:57pm Boris wrote on Jul 7th, 2025 at 6:26pm:
Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Frank on Jul 7th, 2025 at 8:20pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7th, 2025 at 7:57pm:
Khunt. |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Brian Ross on Jul 7th, 2025 at 8:36pm Frank wrote on Jul 7th, 2025 at 8:20pm:
A PhD from the University of Baloney. Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Frank on Jul 7th, 2025 at 8:38pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7th, 2025 at 8:36pm:
But you are still a khunt. No hiding it. |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Brian Ross on Jul 7th, 2025 at 8:59pm Frank wrote on Jul 7th, 2025 at 8:38pm:
A further example of a PhD he earnt from the University of Baloney. Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Frank on Jul 7th, 2025 at 9:02pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7th, 2025 at 8:59pm:
You are inventing lies , snivelling moron. |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Jul 7th, 2025 at 9:04pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 5th, 2025 at 2:10pm:
And to hell with truthfulness as well, par for your course Brian. |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Brian Ross on Jul 7th, 2025 at 9:07pm Frank wrote on Jul 7th, 2025 at 9:02pm:
What? Don't you have a PhD, Soren? What lies have you been telling us? Oh, dearie, dearie, me, so much for being a "Superior Man". Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Belgarion on Jul 7th, 2025 at 9:09pm
A reality check for those who think the Aboriginals lived the utopian idyll before the white man arrived:
https://www.spectator.com.au/2025/07/the-truth-about-victorian-colonisation/?fbclid=IwY2xjawLYigRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETBJb0ppRWpZalhnNll4akdJAR6c5Bi2CvGSlYCgLZVZFGrIa9IeC3Bhe1SEiaZ3a8VSc0EH22adTGoWzhelJA_aem_NfnIq8HxCbPR7_QWwFAh3Q |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Frank on Jul 7th, 2025 at 9:11pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7th, 2025 at 9:07pm:
You are lying as fluently as the clammy wanker up the road from you, nappy shitter. Clammy wankers, nappy shitters - what IS it about Perth? Tsk, tsk ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Brian Ross on Jul 7th, 2025 at 9:16pm Frank wrote on Jul 7th, 2025 at 9:11pm:
What? Don't you have a PhD, Soren? What lies have you been telling us? Oh, dearie, dearie, me, so much for being a "Superior Man". Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Setanta on Jul 7th, 2025 at 9:33pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7th, 2025 at 9:07pm:
I thought it was you who said you were superior to the rest of us with your ten dollar online Doctor of Divinity. |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Brian Ross on Jul 7th, 2025 at 9:58pm Setanta wrote on Jul 7th, 2025 at 9:33pm:
Don't know where you are getting that figure from, Setanta. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Setanta on Jul 7th, 2025 at 10:29pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7th, 2025 at 9:58pm:
Quite right, you never told us how much you paid for your online Doctor of Divinity, my bad. Although I do notice that's what you take issue with, not that it was bought on line. How much did you pay for it? $20? Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Ripped off. |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Frank on Jul 8th, 2025 at 10:48am Victoria’s race-based ‘truth-telling’ body, the Yoorrook Justice Commission, handed down its Final Report on June 25, 2025. At a public cost of $50 million, the Commission delivered precisely what was expected: a racially framed reinterpretation of Victorian history, constructed to support a politicised narrative of grievance and entitlement. The Commission (above) was chaired by “Professor Aunty” Eleanor Bourke AM, a respected Wergaia and Wamba Wamba Elder and prominent advocate in Indigenous education and justice. Whilst her credentials are well-established, her appointment raises legitimate questions about impartiality. In any other context, placing a long-standing activist at the head of an inquiry tasked with delivering ‘truth’ about her own identity group would be seen as a clear conflict of interest. What was presented as an independent truth-telling process was, from the outset, compromised by ideological alignment and predetermined conclusions. ... Identity today is self-ascribed, often politically or emotionally motivated, and increasingly divorced from any lived experience of traditional Aboriginal culture. To grant legal or institutional status to such identities is to enshrine a fiction, one that is rooted in neither race nor surviving culture, but in retrospective affiliation. In sum, there is no coherent basis: biological, cultural, or historical, for recognising a distinct Aboriginal group in Victoria today. What remains is a modern population of mixed ancestry, well integrated into Australian society, with no unbroken connection to the pre-contact past. To continue treating ‘Aboriginality’ as a special legal or political category is to perpetuate racial division and undermine the principles of equality before the law. The term Aboriginal is now defined so broadly and ambiguously in legislation that it permits self-identification without any substantive racial or cultural connection to traditional Aboriginal society. It is estimated that as much as 30% of those ‘identifying’ have no descent at all. This elastic definition has facilitated the emergence of a politically assertive cult and highly organised identity group which has successfully extracted extensive concessions and resources from the Victorian public. ... The Victorian Labor Government, true to form, appears all but certain to embrace even the most extreme and unsubstantiated recommendations of Yoorrook. While it is unsurprising that individuals identifying as Aboriginal would pursue activism promising material and political gain, it defies reason that a sitting government would willingly discredit its own national history and entertain the transfer of billions in reparations, all based on a fabricated narrative masquerading as truth. What is being advanced is not justice, but an ideologically constructed fiction, repackaged as moral authority—and the government’s complicity in this distortion represents a profound betrayal of historical integrity, public trust and the people of Victoria. Robert Hill |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Gnads on Jul 8th, 2025 at 11:18am Brian Ross wrote on Jul 5th, 2025 at 7:09pm:
Moron Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Gnads on Jul 8th, 2025 at 11:20am Brian Ross wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 12:45pm:
You offer no solutions you hypocrite dolt. Moron Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Gnads on Jul 8th, 2025 at 11:31am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 7th, 2025 at 12:36pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGjQqEG-FdQ ;D They don't like it up 'em Sir. ![]() |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Gnads on Jul 8th, 2025 at 11:34am Belgarion wrote on Jul 7th, 2025 at 9:09pm:
$44 million wasted on that victim enabling sob story Yoorook Commission. ::) Another WOFATM - just like Bwyan. |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Frank on Jul 8th, 2025 at 4:30pm Belgarion wrote on Jul 7th, 2025 at 9:09pm:
Geoffrey Blainey, the preeminent historian on not just Australian history, but also Victoria, writes in A History of Victoria (2013): Aboriginal people themselves killed more Aboriginals than Europeans in the early pastoral era. Indeed, some Aboriginal people thought that one advantage of the coming of the British was the decline of deaths caused through their own internal strife. ‘Before you came here,’ said one Aboriginal person, ‘the country was strewn with bones, and we were always at war.’ Now it was a different kind of war, and by 1845 it was largely over. ... How many Aboriginal people were killed by Europeans? The figures will be continually debated, but as Blainey points on in his book, the often-cited figure of 2,000 is over-exaggerated. The number is much closer to 400. This is because disease was more deadly than guns. Most Aboriginal people were given clothes and blankets when the first Europeans arrived, yet many died as a result of not understanding that wet clothes and lying wet in a blanket could lead to pneumonia and influenza. The respiratory disease would wipe out hundreds. Blainey argues: They had no immunity to influenza and smallpox and measles and tuberculosis, and they died in their hundreds. Venereal disease ran amok, and in the Loddon Valley protectorate nine of every ten Aboriginal women were said to be infected at the end of 1841. According to the official count of the two Aboriginal tribes around Port Phillip and Western port, their population fell from about 350 in 1836 – when disease had already done its work – to a mere seventy-nine in 1850. Because of disease, infant mortality and modernisation, Aboriginal society, kinship, and way of life was decimated. Their numbers were fell to below 3,000 in 1850. Despite the efforts of the government to establish an Aboriginal protectorate, it could not stop the severe decline in population. https://www.spectator.com.au/2025/07/the-truth-about-victorian-colonisation/ |
Title: Re: Victoria Disaster Post by Sir Eoin O Fada on Jul 11th, 2025 at 6:02pm
Preeminent in the Vic Voice Version is that renowned Aboriginal activist Marcus Stewart, whose red hair and blue eyes go well with his Scottish ancestry.
Some people claim to have established a family tree that shews him to be descended from the Stewart Kings of Scotland as is, they also claim, Linda Burney. https://www.dark-emu-exposed.org/home/king-marcus-and-the-house-of-stewart-a-rising-aboriginal-aristocracy-part-1 All well and good but the bad news is that, if true [and I don’t doubt it] they are also related to me, thankfully very distantly. |
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