Survey finds 'significant' rise in racism towards Indigenous people in past decade - gee, I wonder why?   ::) ::)

I think racism is increasing.

What we should aim for is to see skin colour no different from hair colour.

If we get to that point, there is no racism.

Amongst my indigenous and non indigenous grandchildren , this is the case.

Blonde brunette dark skin pale skin
It counts for nil.

Unfortunately for some people and Brian is a prime example. They can't stop noticing skin colour.
They are probably pretty ashamed of their inherent racism.
So they accuse others of having their own personal vice.

Very similar to someone who may have obsessive focus on trumps sexual indiscretions. But I digress.

When people like bwian want people to be able to climb or not climb a mountain based on their skin colour, what are we to call that but racism?
That's apartheid.
Separation on the basis of skin colour.

What if my extended family want to go to Stradbroke Island and 3 grandchildren can hunt the beaches and the other 3 can't.

What am I to tell them?
Do I sit them down and explain Australia has decided to separate you from your cousins on the basis of your skin colour.

What an ugly message.

What hateful and divisive people humans like bwian must be.

I would beg them to stop the racism
Do it for the next generation

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24^th, 2025 at 10:43pm:

Survey finds 'significant' rise in racism towards Indigenous people in past decade - gee, I wonder why?   ::) ::)

Do you think it was inspired by government racism Brian?

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 8:02am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 10:43pm: Survey finds 'significant' rise in racism towards Indigenous people in past decade - gee, I wonder why?   ::) ::) Do you think it was inspired by government racism Brian?

No - it was CREATED by government racism as a deliberate policy ploy.  Nobody could be serious about the way governments and bodies of government are going about their Apartheid madness, not to mention their immigration mix madness.

On which last subject - worldwide changes and growing pressures are at this moment giving GuvAlbo pause to re-consider their ideas and fantasies about immigration...... most Civilised Tribes are rejecting mass immigration from specific areas due to the endless troubles those bring ... ordinary folk are finally rising, and governments are being changed or are changing to suit what they always knew was the reality of rejection by the ordinary folk of this kind of madness......

I predict that GuvAlbo and their consorts will quietly shelve their immigration madness and just pretend it never happened and that it wasn't their policy ...  it was in the hands of the immigration officials .. they will publicly crucify THEIR appointed head of that organisation while slipping them a nice little earner for life for falling on the party sword ... they will more and more blame the 'opposition' for it all as time goes by and memories slip .... repeat often enough until the upcoming school dweebs accept it as the new reality ..... they will do this slowly in the hope that we will not notice....

No more mass immigration from uncongenial lands and cultures....

No more slicing up the country to satisfy the whinings of ten people who reckon their ancestors once walked there .... and who have enjoyed the privileges of a free ride the Other Way for generations ..

Time to stop pushing dopey sheilas, don' cha think?  Let them stand on a level playing field for a change ... you've already destroyed homes, families, economies, and children doing it.... so when do you plan to STFU about 'poor, poor women' and stop crushing down on men to give them privileges men never had?

If you do not notice what they have all done to you by now - I cannot help you.

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Bobby. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 9:03am:

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You lot blame them all the time...  It's an entire pillar of Trump's presidency, it's what got Abbott elected.

What are you talking about Bob?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 9:32am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:03am: https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/6b/0c/41/6b0c41211b8f5965f96ffab570e1d984.png You lot blame them all the time...  It's an entire pillar of Trump's presidency, it's what got Abbott elected. What are you talking about Bob?

White people never blamed Darkies for their poverty.

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 6:33am:

I think racism is increasing. What we should aim for is to see skin colour no different from hair colour. If we get to that point, there is no racism. Amongst my indigenous and non indigenous grandchildren , this is the case. Blonde brunette dark skin pale skin It counts for nil. Unfortunately for some people and Brian is a prime example. They can't stop noticing skin colour. They are probably pretty ashamed of their inherent racism. So they accuse others of having their own personal vice. Very similar to someone who may have obsessive focus on trumps sexual indiscretions. But I digress. When people like bwian want people to be able to climb or not climb a mountain based on their skin colour, what are we to call that but racism? That's apartheid. Separation on the basis of skin colour. What if my extended family want to go to Stradbroke Island and 3 grandchildren can hunt the beaches and the other 3 can't. What am I to tell them? Do I sit them down and explain Australia has decided to separate you from your cousins on the basis of your skin colour. What an ugly message. What hateful and divisive people humans like bwian must be. I would beg them to stop the racism Do it for the next generation

Identity politics when it suits their argument/agenda.

And because of the virtue signaling they don't see that they are being what they decry - racist.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 9:32am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:03am: https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/6b/0c/41/6b0c41211b8f5965f96ffab570e1d984.png You lot blame them all the time...  It's an entire pillar of Trump's presidency, it's what got Abbott elected. What are you talking about Bob?

What a crock of Kangaroo poo.

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 6:33am:

I think racism is increasing. What we should aim for is to see skin colour no different from hair colour. If we get to that point, there is no racism. Amongst my indigenous and non indigenous grandchildren , this is the case. Blonde brunette dark skin pale skin It counts for nil. Unfortunately for some people and Brian is a prime example. They can't stop noticing skin colour. They are probably pretty ashamed of their inherent racism. So they accuse others of having their own personal vice. Very similar to someone who may have obsessive focus on trumps sexual indiscretions. But I digress. When people like bwian want people to be able to climb or not climb a mountain based on their skin colour, what are we to call that but racism? That's apartheid. Separation on the basis of skin colour. What if my extended family want to go to Stradbroke Island and 3 grandchildren can hunt the beaches and the other 3 can't. What am I to tell them? Do I sit them down and explain Australia has decided to separate you from your cousins on the basis of your skin colour. What an ugly message. What hateful and divisive people humans like bwian must be. I would beg them to stop the racism Do it for the next generation

The High Court established Aboriginal peoples Land Rights which has been challenged by Governments and upheld by the High Court.....You racist wankers can claim you are being discriminated against but have no standing in a court of law.....Cry about it all you want but your ignorance will not change anything!!!

::) ::) ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 9:37am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:32am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:03am: https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/6b/0c/41/6b0c41211b8f5965f96ffab570e1d984.png You lot blame them all the time...  It's an entire pillar of Trump's presidency, it's what got Abbott elected. What are you talking about Bob? White people never blamed Darkies for their poverty.

The slave economy in the American south kept them relatively poor and probably contributed to the loss of the civil war. Though there probably would not have been a civil war without the slave economy.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24^th, 2025 at 10:43pm:

Survey finds 'significant' rise in racism towards Indigenous people in past decade - gee, I wonder why?   ::) ::)

Yeah, what do you think?
Or is that asking just too much of you?



Here's the Barometer.
https://www.reconciliation.org.au/reconciliation/what-is-reconciliation/
There is much in it that is contentious and activist-driven.
As usual, non-Aborigines are epected to be reconciled with Aborigines and to celebrate them. There isn't any expectation on Aborigines to reconcile with a changing world around them, to catch up and make an effort.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24^th, 2025 at 10:43pm:

Survey finds 'significant' rise in racism towards Indigenous people in past decade - gee, I wonder why?   ::) ::)

greggery,

Many ppl like yourself today, in Australia.......are being purposefully disingenuous.......
i.e. deceitful.

Intentionally sowing social discord, throughout society.

disingenuous = = not candid or sincere, especially in pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.



THE TRUTH......
It is all criminals, but particularly violent criminals, who are.........
A PRIVILEGED GROUP, in Australian society today.

privilege = = a special right, advantage, or immunity for a particular person.      a special benefit or honour.


And, we should be condemning the political class in this country, for that circumstance......
and NOT [being especially critical of] Anglo Australians.

n.b.
It WAS Anglo Australians.....who brought COMMON LAW......to this nation.

[the principle of ONE LAW, for all]

Yet the principle of COMMON LAW in Australia,
has been rapidly destroyed and adulterated.......
at the behest, and lobbying, of ppl like yourself greggery.



The 99% of all 'our' Australian politicians, in 2025.......
these verses in the book of Isaiah....
are is speaking of people like YOU.  ------ >

KJV
Isaiah 59:3
For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
4  None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.
......
......
7  Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.
8  The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.
9  Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness.
......
......
14  And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.
15  Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.



And Ezekiel.......

Q.
Who are the 'shepherds', or the 'princes', in a society of men ?

Hey.....our political class, who do you think Ezekiel is describing here ?   -------- >

Ezekiel 34:1
And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2  Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?
3  Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock.
4  The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them.
5  And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered.



KJV
".......and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers,
Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them:
but gather the wheat into my barn."


"......and his disciples came unto him, saying,
Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
The field is the world;
the good seed are the children of the kingdom;
but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
The enemy that sowed them is the devil;
the harvest is the end of the world;
and the reapers are the angels."

Gnads wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 9:58am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:32am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:03am: https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/6b/0c/41/6b0c41211b8f5965f96ffab570e1d984.png You lot blame them all the time...  It's an entire pillar of Trump's presidency, it's what got Abbott elected. What are you talking about Bob? What a crock of Kangaroo poo.

Do you have any actual criticism of the claim, or are you just adding to the pool of tears?

We can go through it if you like, but you're going to need to be a bit more interactive than butthurt one liners...

From a facebook site:

So, let's get this straight.
Despite,
- the free university education aided by lower entry requirements for Aboriginals
- Aboriginal only advertised job vacancies
- Aboriginal corporations becoming preferred government contractors
- state treaties in the works
- Aboriginal only safe spaces in hospitals and Aboriginal only health centres
- $30-40BILLION pa in federal funding for ATSI people
- Aboriginals holding more land than ever since 1788 and record land claims in the pipeline
- Closing the Gap initiatives for Aboriginals
- Aboriginal only plane flights for AbStudy recipients
- Aboriginals banning non-Aboriginals from more & more public areas
- Aboriginals receiving taxpayer money so they may attend funerals should they live remotely
- Aboriginals not having to pay stamp duty in some instances that everybody else has to pay
racism went up 40 percent!!!

This poster nailed it. When white Australians doing it tough get annoyed by the special treatment given to Aboriginals it is 'racism'.... ::)

i just love how all the racists blame the government for their insecurities  :D :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 12:19pm:

i just love how all the racists blame the government for their insecurities  :D :D :D :D

John do you think that wanting to keep Mt Warning open to all citizens, regardless of race, is an "insecurity"?

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 12:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:19pm: i just love how all the racists blame the government for their insecurities  :D :D :D :D John do you think that wanting to keep Mt Warning open to all citizens, regardless of race, is an "insecurity"?

Only an insecure twat would cry for years now about not being able to climb a mountain he has no intention of climbing

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 10:00am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:37am: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:32am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:03am: https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/6b/0c/41/6b0c41211b8f5965f96ffab570e1d984.png You lot blame them all the time...  It's an entire pillar of Trump's presidency, it's what got Abbott elected. What are you talking about Bob? White people never blamed Darkies for their poverty. The slave economy in the American south kept them relatively poor and probably contributed to the loss of the civil war. Though there probably would not have been a civil war without the slave economy.

I doubt that -

slavery was an afterthought that Lincoln used to ennoble his cause.
Slavery kept the South rich with all that free labor.

John Smith wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 12:19pm:

i just love how all the racists blame the government for their insecurities  :D :D :D :D

It really does seem to be the driving force behind it all. Their entire culture, their political identity, it's all rooted in deep, gnawing insecurity. The whole "Alpha" schtick is just a fragile costume for weak little men, so terrified of what others might think of them that they lash out, desperately attacking those who are different just to soothe their own fragile egos.

It's always been pathetic, but it's especially ridiculous now, given they idolise someone like Trump, a man who constantly emasculates himself by whinging about everything and everyone, endlessly playing the victim, blaming others, pretending he knew nothing about what's going on, and never, not even for a second, taking responsibility for his own actions.

Honestly, he carries on more like a petty teenage girl than anything remotely resembling a man of substance or worth.

Yet he's their messiah.

John Smith wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 12:50pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:19pm: i just love how all the racists blame the government for their insecurities  :D :D :D :D John do you think that wanting to keep Mt Warning open to all citizens, regardless of race, is an "insecurity"? Only an insecure twat would cry for years now about not being able to climb a mountain he has no intention of climbing

I have climbed it before.

You do not understand freedom if you think it is silly to defend it when it doesn't directly affect you.

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 1:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:50pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:19pm: i just love how all the racists blame the government for their insecurities  :D :D :D :D John do you think that wanting to keep Mt Warning open to all citizens, regardless of race, is an "insecurity"? Only an insecure twat would cry for years now about not being able to climb a mountain he has no intention of climbing I have climbed it before. You do not understand freedom if you think it is silly to defend it when it doesn't directly affect you.

don't take out your insecurities on me :D

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 12:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 10:00am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:37am: ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:32am: Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:03am: https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/6b/0c/41/6b0c41211b8f5965f96ffab570e1d984.png You lot blame them all the time...  It's an entire pillar of Trump's presidency, it's what got Abbott elected. What are you talking about Bob? White people never blamed Darkies for their poverty. The slave economy in the American south kept them relatively poor and probably contributed to the loss of the civil war. Though there probably would not have been a civil war without the slave economy. I doubt that - slavery was an afterthought that Lincoln used to ennoble his cause. Slavery kept the South rich with all that free labor.

The confederates primary income was cotton. This was over a century after the start of the industrial revolution. The northern states were far more industrialised. Not a huge difference, but enough to tip the balance in the war. It was a technologically more advanced economy up against a less advanced one.

Even many of the new inventions for the cotton industry came from northerners. A slave owner has no motivation to reduce human labour, because he never toils in the field. A slave has no motivation to stick his neck out, when he will not get any benefit from his invention, and would probably be denied the means to build it anyway. A slave cannot do much to improve his lot in life, and his primary motivation is to do less work. A slave owner's primary focus is to get as much labour as possible out of the slaves. Slavery inevitably stagnates economies. As well as putting more thought into their work and being more creative, free men often worked harder than their enslaved contemporaries, simply because they were motivated to do so.

John Smith wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 1:49pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:47pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:50pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:19pm: i just love how all the racists blame the government for their insecurities  :D :D :D :D John do you think that wanting to keep Mt Warning open to all citizens, regardless of race, is an "insecurity"? Only an insecure twat would cry for years now about not being able to climb a mountain he has no intention of climbing I have climbed it before. You do not understand freedom if you think it is silly to defend it when it doesn't directly affect you. don't take out your insecurities on me :D

I think it is you who is insecure about this John. It challenges some belief you hold, that you are afraid to address directly.

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 2:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:49pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:47pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:50pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:19pm: i just love how all the racists blame the government for their insecurities  :D :D :D :D John do you think that wanting to keep Mt Warning open to all citizens, regardless of race, is an "insecurity"? Only an insecure twat would cry for years now about not being able to climb a mountain he has no intention of climbing I have climbed it before. You do not understand freedom if you think it is silly to defend it when it doesn't directly affect you. don't take out your insecurities on me :D I think it is you who is insecure about this John. It challenges some belief you hold, that you are afraid to address directly.

I'm the least insecure guy you'll meet. That's why I don't spend my days finding fault with and belittling people because they are black, Green, Chinese, Martian, hindu, Jewish, Muslim or whatever other differences they might have.

John Smith wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 2:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:02pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:49pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:47pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:50pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:19pm: i just love how all the racists blame the government for their insecurities  :D :D :D :D John do you think that wanting to keep Mt Warning open to all citizens, regardless of race, is an "insecurity"? Only an insecure twat would cry for years now about not being able to climb a mountain he has no intention of climbing I have climbed it before. You do not understand freedom if you think it is silly to defend it when it doesn't directly affect you. don't take out your insecurities on me :D I think it is you who is insecure about this John. It challenges some belief you hold, that you are afraid to address directly. I'm the least insecure guy you'll meet. That's why I don't spend my days finding fault with and belittling people because they are black, Green, Chinese, Martian, hindu, Jewish, Muslim or whatever other differences they might have.

OH?  so only if they are White and see a real problem with some in any of those groups and you feel some right to get toey because one group is responsible for 93% of women killings and stuff? 

Right you are, Guv ....

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 2:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:35pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:02pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:49pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:47pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:50pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:19pm: i just love how all the racists blame the government for their insecurities  :D :D :D :D John do you think that wanting to keep Mt Warning open to all citizens, regardless of race, is an "insecurity"? Only an insecure twat would cry for years now about not being able to climb a mountain he has no intention of climbing I have climbed it before. You do not understand freedom if you think it is silly to defend it when it doesn't directly affect you. don't take out your insecurities on me :D I think it is you who is insecure about this John. It challenges some belief you hold, that you are afraid to address directly. I'm the least insecure guy you'll meet. That's why I don't spend my days finding fault with and belittling people because they are black, Green, Chinese, Martian, hindu, Jewish, Muslim or whatever other differences they might have. OH?  so only if they are White and see a real problem with some in any of those groups and you feel some right to get toey becuae one group is responsible for 93% of women killings and stuff?  Right you are, Guv ....

What are you blabbering about you fool?

John and Skippy seem to be getting quite worked up.

Anger management may be in order

John Smith wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 2:49pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:48pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:35pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:02pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:49pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:47pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:50pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:19pm: i just love how all the racists blame the government for their insecurities  :D :D :D :D John do you think that wanting to keep Mt Warning open to all citizens, regardless of race, is an "insecurity"? Only an insecure twat would cry for years now about not being able to climb a mountain he has no intention of climbing I have climbed it before. You do not understand freedom if you think it is silly to defend it when it doesn't directly affect you. don't take out your insecurities on me :D I think it is you who is insecure about this John. It challenges some belief you hold, that you are afraid to address directly. I'm the least insecure guy you'll meet. That's why I don't spend my days finding fault with and belittling people because they are black, Green, Chinese, Martian, hindu, Jewish, Muslim or whatever other differences they might have. OH?  so only if they are White and see a real problem with some in any of those groups and you feel some right to get toey becuae one group is responsible for 93% of women killings and stuff?  Right you are, Guv .... What are you blabbering about you fool?

As peccary would say - we see your white flag....

https://media1.tenor.com/m/uh0Lsu5yZVQAAAAd/chicken-run.gif

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 2:53pm:

John and Skippy seem to be getting quite worked up. Anger management may be in order

anger management? For laughing at the stupidity you continually display? They'll laugh me out of the class. ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24^th, 2025 at 10:43pm:

Survey finds 'significant' rise in racism towards Indigenous people in past decade - gee, I wonder why?   ::) ::)

From the report -

"I think probably people are more likely to report those experiences, and people have a greater understanding of what it is," she said."

More reporting does not necessarily translate to a rise in racism.  ::)

John Smith wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 2:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:02pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:49pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:47pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:50pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:19pm: i just love how all the racists blame the government for their insecurities  :D :D :D :D John do you think that wanting to keep Mt Warning open to all citizens, regardless of race, is an "insecurity"? Only an insecure twat would cry for years now about not being able to climb a mountain he has no intention of climbing I have climbed it before. You do not understand freedom if you think it is silly to defend it when it doesn't directly affect you. don't take out your insecurities on me :D I think it is you who is insecure about this John. It challenges some belief you hold, that you are afraid to address directly. I'm the least insecure guy you'll meet. That's why I don't spend my days finding fault with and belittling people because they are black, Green, Chinese, Martian, hindu, Jewish, Muslim or whatever other differences they might have.

You are almost up there with Brian Ross in your compulsion to respond and your fear of saying something relevant. The only thing you add that he doesn't is the need to belittle people.

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 3:12pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:35pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:02pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:49pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:47pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:50pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:19pm: i just love how all the racists blame the government for their insecurities  :D :D :D :D John do you think that wanting to keep Mt Warning open to all citizens, regardless of race, is an "insecurity"? Only an insecure twat would cry for years now about not being able to climb a mountain he has no intention of climbing I have climbed it before. You do not understand freedom if you think it is silly to defend it when it doesn't directly affect you. don't take out your insecurities on me :D I think it is you who is insecure about this John. It challenges some belief you hold, that you are afraid to address directly. I'm the least insecure guy you'll meet. That's why I don't spend my days finding fault with and belittling people because they are black, Green, Chinese, Martian, hindu, Jewish, Muslim or whatever other differences they might have. You are almost up there with Brian Ross in your compulsion to respond and your fear of saying something relevant. The only thing you add that he doesn't is the need to belittle people.

Compulsion to respond? Isn't that why we're here?

Perhaps I should do what you do and pretend everyone says something else just so that I can start another thread complaining that they said what they didn't say? :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 2:54pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:53pm: John and Skippy seem to be getting quite worked up. Anger management may be in order anger management? For laughing at the stupidity you continually display? They'll laugh me out of the class. ::)

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I'm tempted to post a picture of my grandkids but a few too many deviates on here.

But if someone can explain to me why the black grandkids and white grandkids can't enjoy a bushwalk up my warning together and how the current policy isn't segregation on the basis of skin colour ( apartheid) I would be grateful

John Smith wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 2:49pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:48pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:35pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:02pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:49pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:47pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:50pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:19pm: i just love how all the racists blame the government for their insecurities  :D :D :D :D John do you think that wanting to keep Mt Warning open to all citizens, regardless of race, is an "insecurity"? Only an insecure twat would cry for years now about not being able to climb a mountain he has no intention of climbing I have climbed it before. You do not understand freedom if you think it is silly to defend it when it doesn't directly affect you. don't take out your insecurities on me :D I think it is you who is insecure about this John. It challenges some belief you hold, that you are afraid to address directly. I'm the least insecure guy you'll meet. That's why I don't spend my days finding fault with and belittling people because they are black, Green, Chinese, Martian, hindu, Jewish, Muslim or whatever other differences they might have. OH?  so only if they are White and see a real problem with some in any of those groups and you feel some right to get toey becuae one group is responsible for 93% of women killings and stuff?  Right you are, Guv .... What are you blabbering about you fool?

;D Poor Smith has comprehension issues.

Gnads wrote on Jun 26^th, 2025 at 7:27am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:49pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:48pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:35pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 2:02pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:49pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:47pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:50pm: freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:19pm: i just love how all the racists blame the government for their insecurities  :D :D :D :D John do you think that wanting to keep Mt Warning open to all citizens, regardless of race, is an "insecurity"? Only an insecure twat would cry for years now about not being able to climb a mountain he has no intention of climbing I have climbed it before. You do not understand freedom if you think it is silly to defend it when it doesn't directly affect you. don't take out your insecurities on me :D I think it is you who is insecure about this John. It challenges some belief you hold, that you are afraid to address directly. I'm the least insecure guy you'll meet. That's why I don't spend my days finding fault with and belittling people because they are black, Green, Chinese, Martian, hindu, Jewish, Muslim or whatever other differences they might have. OH?  so only if they are White and see a real problem with some in any of those groups and you feel some right to get toey becuae one group is responsible for 93% of women killings and stuff?  Right you are, Guv .... What are you blabbering about you fool? ;D Poor Smith has comprehension issues.

yes, i never learnt to speak idiot ... can you translate it for me?

Are Aborigines inferior people?

https://x.com/JillMarinelli1/status/1868994723060629802

Boris wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 9:11am:

Are Aborigines inferior people? https://x.com/JillMarinelli1/status/1868994723060629802

No they are not.
In fact from spending time with them they are funnier, more resilient. More sharing and more dialed in to the present moment then whites.

BUT

they have been sucked into a very evil narrative by people like whitlam Rudd Keating Gillard and albo.

They have been told repeatedly that they are a victim of their circumstances. And we are sorry which implies they have to focus on the suffering and the pain and live in THAT reality

Absolutely appalling.


We need to repeatedly tell and DEMAND that they see themselves as
MASTERS OF THIER DESTINY.  Not VICTIMS OF THIER CIRCYMSTANCES.
to not do so is a form of racism far more destructive then Boris anecdotes.

I believe Boris to be honest but we need to focus only on the positive.

Condemning or saying sorry are equally appalling
U

Well - racism's been on the rise since the mass import of people who regard the West with suspicion if not open hostility, and has been made worse locally (I view immigrants as being a separate group - not quite Australians, you understand - sort of partials) by Albanese's fantasy of dividing the country up along Aborigines and Others - a new form of Apartheid.

Only a total idiot - and there are plenty of those around at the moment - could not see that such an Apartheidist policy is a disaster from the outset...

Most NORMAL people - from which group you can exclude the vast majority of 'students' and other befuddled indoctrinated thinkers these days - scarcely consider Aborigines etc ... though some extremely good-hearted people - some here - who take up the cause of solving the very real and clear Aboriginal problems and speaking out without fear or favour - are constantly attacked for wanting to help improve things for the Abos.

It's 2025 - they can't just say they own everything - that all the land is theirs by some right of past conquest -those days are gone or by some Divine Right  .. you can't just raise an Aboriginal flag and say you now claim this country etc...as some farcical group based in Brisbane are currently trying to do with a stretch of land around Goondiwindi .. this Aboriginal Imperialism has had its day - it ended in 1788, so best get used to it and make your way honestly in the modern age.

The people of Australia are sick of supporting your fantasies of some past empire... get over it ... maybe you could try an Aboriginal Commonwealth and try to work together instead of playing Empire all the time with your farcical group ... as farcical as Khomeini declaring victory over Israel... nearly blew the froth off me Guinness at that one!!

aquascoot wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 9:44am:

Boris wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 9:11am: Are Aborigines inferior people? https://x.com/JillMarinelli1/status/1868994723060629802 No they are not. In fact from spending time with them they are funnier, more resilient. More sharing and more dialed in to the present moment then whites. BUT they have been sucked into a very evil narrative by people like whitlam Rudd Keating Gillard and albo. They have been told repeatedly that they are a victim of their circumstances. And we are sorry which implies they have to focus on the suffering and the pain and live in THAT reality Absolutely appalling. We need to repeatedly tell and DEMAND that they see themselves as MASTERS OF THIER DESTINY.  Not VICTIMS OF THIER CIRCYMSTANCES. to not do so is a form of racism far more destructive then Boris anecdotes. I believe Boris to be honest but we need to focus only on the positive. Condemning or saying sorry are equally appalling U

Bravo!  Someone else has seen through the bullshit Racist condemnation that, "Boris" posts all the time.  Well done, Aqua.  What a pity though you had to ruin it with your usual condemnation of anybody who feels for the Indigenous Australians' plight and blame their situation on those who have endeavoured to do something about it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

The are, by fact primitive and cannibal and it has shown that discipline, like that which disciplines all people, saves them from the Left's victimhood trap.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 2:30pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 9:44am: Boris wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 9:11am: Are Aborigines inferior people? https://x.com/JillMarinelli1/status/1868994723060629802 No they are not. In fact from spending time with them they are funnier, more resilient. More sharing and more dialed in to the present moment then whites. BUT they have been sucked into a very evil narrative by people like whitlam Rudd Keating Gillard and albo. They have been told repeatedly that they are a victim of their circumstances. And we are sorry which implies they have to focus on the suffering and the pain and live in THAT reality Absolutely appalling. We need to repeatedly tell and DEMAND that they see themselves as MASTERS OF THIER DESTINY.  Not VICTIMS OF THIER CIRCYMSTANCES. to not do so is a form of racism far more destructive then Boris anecdotes. I believe Boris to be honest but we need to focus only on the positive. Condemning or saying sorry are equally appalling U Bravo!  Someone else has seen through the bullshit Racist condemnation that, "Boris" posts all the time.  Well done, Aqua.  What a pity though you had to ruin it with your usual condemnation of anybody who feels for the Indigenous Australians' plight and blame their situation on those who have endeavoured to do something about it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Feeling for them, and prolonging the culture of learned helplessness, do not have to be the same thing Brian. It's like picking up a flailing fish and commiserating with it that it cannot breath, then lovingly getting a towel to dry its tears. Your emotions do not make up for your stupidity.

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 3:33pm:

Feeling for them, and prolonging the culture of learned helplessness, do not have to be the same thing Brian. It's like picking up a flailing fish and commiserating with it that it cannot breath, then lovingly getting a towel to dry its tears. Your emotions do not make up for your stupidity.

Twilight Zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 2:30pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 9:44am: Boris wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 9:11am: Are Aborigines inferior people? https://x.com/JillMarinelli1/status/1868994723060629802 No they are not. In fact from spending time with them they are funnier, more resilient. More sharing and more dialed in to the present moment then whites. BUT they have been sucked into a very evil narrative by people like whitlam Rudd Keating Gillard and albo. They have been told repeatedly that they are a victim of their circumstances. And we are sorry which implies they have to focus on the suffering and the pain and live in THAT reality Absolutely appalling. We need to repeatedly tell and DEMAND that they see themselves as MASTERS OF THIER DESTINY.  Not VICTIMS OF THIER CIRCYMSTANCES. to not do so is a form of racism far more destructive then Boris anecdotes. I believe Boris to be honest but we need to focus only on the positive. Condemning or saying sorry are equally appalling U Bravo!  Someone else has seen through the bullshit Racist condemnation that, "Boris" posts all the time.  Well done, Aqua.  What a pity though you had to ruin it with your usual condemnation of anybody who feels for the Indigenous Australians' plight and blame their situation on those who have endeavoured to do something about it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Because what you are doing is the racism of low expectations

aquascoot wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 5:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 2:30pm: Bravo!  Someone else has seen through the bullshit Racist condemnation that, "Boris" posts all the time.  Well done, Aqua.  What a pity though you had to ruin it with your usual condemnation of anybody who feels for the Indigenous Australians' plight and blame their situation on those who have endeavoured to do something about it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Because what you are doing is the racism of low expectations

Where have I expressed, "my expectations"?  Like "Boris" you make assumptions which are not substantiated by anything I have expressed.  Why do you make such assumptions?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:29pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 5:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 2:30pm: Bravo!  Someone else has seen through the bullshit Racist condemnation that, "Boris" posts all the time.  Well done, Aqua.  What a pity though you had to ruin it with your usual condemnation of anybody who feels for the Indigenous Australians' plight and blame their situation on those who have endeavoured to do something about it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Because what you are doing is the racism of low expectations Where have I expressed, "my expectations"?  Like "Boris" you make assumptions which are not substantiated by anything I have expressed.  Why do you make such assumptions?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

The only thing you express, snivelling plonker, is 'twilight zone'.

You are a lost, bewildered moron.

And don't ask question, you frikking dishonest impaired troll, when you are sliming out of every question put to you like you are a one man bucketful of eels in snot.

Frank wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 8:29pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 5:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 2:30pm: Bravo!  Someone else has seen through the bullshit Racist condemnation that, "Boris" posts all the time.  Well done, Aqua.  What a pity though you had to ruin it with your usual condemnation of anybody who feels for the Indigenous Australians' plight and blame their situation on those who have endeavoured to do something about it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Because what you are doing is the racism of low expectations Where have I expressed, "my expectations"?  Like "Boris" you make assumptions which are not substantiated by anything I have expressed.  Why do you make such assumptions?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) The only thing you express, snivelling plonker, is 'twilight zone'. You are a lost, bewildered moron. And don't ask question, you frikking dishonest impaired troll, when you are sliming out of every question put to you like you are a one man bucketful of eels in snot.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, once more Soren demonstrates how the, "superior men" argue.  What a shame.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:40pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 8:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 8:29pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 5:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 2:30pm: Bravo!  Someone else has seen through the bullshit Racist condemnation that, "Boris" posts all the time.  Well done, Aqua.  What a pity though you had to ruin it with your usual condemnation of anybody who feels for the Indigenous Australians' plight and blame their situation on those who have endeavoured to do something about it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Because what you are doing is the racism of low expectations Where have I expressed, "my expectations"?  Like "Boris" you make assumptions which are not substantiated by anything I have expressed.  Why do you make such assumptions?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) The only thing you express, snivelling plonker, is 'twilight zone'. You are a lost, bewildered moron. And don't ask question, you frikking dishonest impaired troll, when you are sliming out of every question put to you like you are a one man bucketful of eels in snot. Oh, dearie, dearie, me, once more Soren demonstrates how the, "superior men" argue.  What a shame.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

The only thing you express, snivelling plonker, is 'twilight zone'. You are a lost, bewildered moron.

Speak intelligently, ****wit. When you post an ABC headline GO BEYOND eyerolling and tut tutting like a wind-up monkey.

Be equal to your opinions, snivelling plonker, don't hide behind headlines, eyerolling idiocy and tut tutting like the ****ing cowardly troll that you are.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 8:29pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 5:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 2:30pm: Bravo!  Someone else has seen through the bullshit Racist condemnation that, "Boris" posts all the time.  Well done, Aqua.  What a pity though you had to ruin it with your usual condemnation of anybody who feels for the Indigenous Australians' plight and blame their situation on those who have endeavoured to do something about it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Because what you are doing is the racism of low expectations Where have I expressed, "my expectations"?  Like "Boris" you make assumptions which are not substantiated by anything I have expressed.  Why do you make such assumptions?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Do you think Aborigines are a mindless collective whose opinions can be adequately represented by an unelected committee appointed by a bunch of white men in Canberra?

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 9:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 8:29pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 5:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 2:30pm: Bravo!  Someone else has seen through the bullshit Racist condemnation that, "Boris" posts all the time.  Well done, Aqua.  What a pity though you had to ruin it with your usual condemnation of anybody who feels for the Indigenous Australians' plight and blame their situation on those who have endeavoured to do something about it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Because what you are doing is the racism of low expectations Where have I expressed, "my expectations"?  Like "Boris" you make assumptions which are not substantiated by anything I have expressed.  Why do you make such assumptions?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Do you think Aborigines are a mindless collective whose opinions can be adequately represented by an unelected committee appointed by a bunch of white men in Canberra?

What's your opinion, Freediver?  Care to dive in and offer a solution?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 11:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 9:16pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 8:29pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 5:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 2:30pm: Bravo!  Someone else has seen through the bullshit Racist condemnation that, "Boris" posts all the time.  Well done, Aqua.  What a pity though you had to ruin it with your usual condemnation of anybody who feels for the Indigenous Australians' plight and blame their situation on those who have endeavoured to do something about it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Because what you are doing is the racism of low expectations Where have I expressed, "my expectations"?  Like "Boris" you make assumptions which are not substantiated by anything I have expressed.  Why do you make such assumptions?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Do you think Aborigines are a mindless collective whose opinions can be adequately represented by an unelected committee appointed by a bunch of white men in Canberra? What's your opinion, Freediver?  Care to dive in and offer a solution?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

I don't think they are. My solution is not to treat them like a mindless collective, and not to lower my expectations of people just because they are black.

What about you Brian?

June 30, 2022, they represented 32% of the prison population while making up only 3.8% of the general population.

13% child Homicides

53% missing children

Aboriginal Australians in the Criminal Justice System is a matter of long-standing and justified public concern. Latest figures indicate that the Aboriginal imprisonment rate in NSW is nearly 10 times the non-Aboriginal imprisonment rate (Australian Bureau of Statistics 2020).

Australian Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women experience violence at significantly higher rates than non-Indigenous women, with some figures indicating rates up to 34 times higher. This includes physical, sexual, and emotional violence, as well as homicide. Family violence is a major driver of negative health outcomes and the removal of children into out-of-home care.

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 7:49am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 11:27pm: freediver wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 9:16pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 8:29pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 5:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 2:30pm: Bravo!  Someone else has seen through the bullshit Racist condemnation that, "Boris" posts all the time.  Well done, Aqua.  What a pity though you had to ruin it with your usual condemnation of anybody who feels for the Indigenous Australians' plight and blame their situation on those who have endeavoured to do something about it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Because what you are doing is the racism of low expectations Where have I expressed, "my expectations"?  Like "Boris" you make assumptions which are not substantiated by anything I have expressed.  Why do you make such assumptions?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Do you think Aborigines are a mindless collective whose opinions can be adequately represented by an unelected committee appointed by a bunch of white men in Canberra? What's your opinion, Freediver?  Care to dive in and offer a solution?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) I don't think they are. My solution is not to treat them like a mindless collective, and not to lower my expectations of people just because they are black. What about you Brian?

My expectations are that Indigenous Australians are human beings, with aspirations and hopes, who have largely been betrayed by White Governments who'd like them to go away and a White society indifferent to their problems who blame them for their plight.  I have known Indigenous Australians all my life, some bad, most good who feel they have been forgotten about by most White Australians.  White Australians like Gnads, Soren, and "Boris" who use them as things to beat the rest of us who care about them and their plight.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Boris wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 8:54am:

June 30, 2022, they represented 32% of the prison population while making up only 3.8% of the general population. 13% child Homicides 53% missing children Aboriginal Australians in the Criminal Justice System is a matter of long-standing and justified public concern. Latest figures indicate that the Aboriginal imprisonment rate in NSW is nearly 10 times the non-Aboriginal imprisonment rate (Australian Bureau of Statistics 2020). Australian Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women experience violence at significantly higher rates than non-Indigenous women, with some figures indicating rates up to 34 times higher. This includes physical, sexual, and emotional violence, as well as homicide. Family violence is a major driver of negative health outcomes and the removal of children into out-of-home care.

More bleating about what has happened, hey, "Boris"?  And your solution is, what?  Anything at all?  No, it doesn't appear so.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Quote:

My expectations are that Indigenous Australians are human beings

Are you sure you aren't setting the bar too high for them Brian?


Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21^st, 2024 at 1:10pm:

I post these memes because I am fed up with arguing with fools who do not know anything about the topic we are discussing, UnSub.  Some people refuse to learn, to acknowledge new research and findings and just stick to their old Racist beliefs.  They are WOFTAMs.  They are why Australia is holding Indigenous people to impossible levels of behaviour.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

What standards are impossible for aborigines to live up to Brian?

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 12:23pm:

Quote: My expectations are that Indigenous Australians are human beings Are you sure you aren't setting the bar too high for them Brian?

Are you sure you aren't setting the bar too low for them, Freediver?


Quote:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2024 at 1:10pm: I post these memes because I am fed up with arguing with fools who do not know anything about the topic we are discussing, UnSub.  Some people refuse to learn, to acknowledge new research and findings and just stick to their old Racist beliefs.  They are WOFTAMs.  They are why Australia is holding Indigenous people to impossible levels of behaviour.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) What standards are impossible for aborigines to live up to Brian?

Individually, basically none.  Collectively, basically anything demanded by superior Whites who feel they should be pseudo Whites rather than Indigenous Australians who are different to the White society.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 12:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 12:23pm: Quote: My expectations are that Indigenous Australians are human beings Are you sure you aren't setting the bar too high for them Brian? Are you sure you aren't setting the bar too low for them, Freediver? [quote] Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2024 at 1:10pm: I post these memes because I am fed up with arguing with fools who do not know anything about the topic we are discussing, UnSub.  Some people refuse to learn, to acknowledge new research and findings and just stick to their old Racist beliefs.  They are WOFTAMs.  They are why Australia is holding Indigenous people to impossible levels of behaviour.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) What standards are impossible for aborigines to live up to Brian?

Individually, basically none.  Collectively, basically anything demanded by superior Whites who feel they should be pseudo Whites rather than Indigenous Australians who are different to the White society.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)
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Anything at all? Like not breaking the law?

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 3:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 12:48pm: freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 12:23pm: Quote: My expectations are that Indigenous Australians are human beings Are you sure you aren't setting the bar too high for them Brian? Are you sure you aren't setting the bar too low for them, Freediver? [quote] Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2024 at 1:10pm: I post these memes because I am fed up with arguing with fools who do not know anything about the topic we are discussing, UnSub.  Some people refuse to learn, to acknowledge new research and findings and just stick to their old Racist beliefs.  They are WOFTAMs.  They are why Australia is holding Indigenous people to impossible levels of behaviour.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) What standards are impossible for aborigines to live up to Brian? Individually, basically none.  Collectively, basically anything demanded by superior Whites who feel they should be pseudo Whites rather than Indigenous Australians who are different to the White society.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Anything at all? Like not breaking the law?[/quote]

Why do you assume the majority break the law?  Perhaps if they were taught what the law actually means they'd obey it.  It seems there is something lacking there in your thinking, like an assumption that everybody automatically understands and accepts what the law demands of everybody without finding out if they know what it means to everybody.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 12:04pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 8:54am: June 30, 2022, they represented 32% of the prison population while making up only 3.8% of the general population. 13% child Homicides 53% missing children Aboriginal Australians in the Criminal Justice System is a matter of long-standing and justified public concern. Latest figures indicate that the Aboriginal imprisonment rate in NSW is nearly 10 times the non-Aboriginal imprisonment rate (Australian Bureau of Statistics 2020). Australian Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women experience violence at significantly higher rates than non-Indigenous women, with some figures indicating rates up to 34 times higher. This includes physical, sexual, and emotional violence, as well as homicide. Family violence is a major driver of negative health outcomes and the removal of children into out-of-home care. More bleating about what has happened, hey, "Boris"?  And your solution is, what?  Anything at all?  No, it doesn't appear so.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

"has happened" past tense?

Is happening today and will happen tomorrow.

Nothing is making it better.

It is what it is - Radical Acceptance.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's quote, "Human nature, if it changes at all, changes not much faster than the geological face of the earth," emphasizes the idea that human nature is incredibly slow to change. He suggests that the core characteristics and tendencies of humanity remain relatively constant over long periods, much like the slow, gradual changes in the Earth's landscape. This quote highlights the enduring nature of both good and bad impulses within individuals and societies.

Boris wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 3:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 12:04pm: Boris wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 8:54am: June 30, 2022, they represented 32% of the prison population while making up only 3.8% of the general population. 13% child Homicides 53% missing children Aboriginal Australians in the Criminal Justice System is a matter of long-standing and justified public concern. Latest figures indicate that the Aboriginal imprisonment rate in NSW is nearly 10 times the non-Aboriginal imprisonment rate (Australian Bureau of Statistics 2020). Australian Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women experience violence at significantly higher rates than non-Indigenous women, with some figures indicating rates up to 34 times higher. This includes physical, sexual, and emotional violence, as well as homicide. Family violence is a major driver of negative health outcomes and the removal of children into out-of-home care. More bleating about what has happened, hey, "Boris"?  And your solution is, what?  Anything at all?  No, it doesn't appear so.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) "has happened" past tense?

Yes, what has happened.  I know no other word to describe statistics, "Boris".  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)


Quote:

Is happening today and will happen tomorrow.

Ah, so now your in the prognostication game, are you, "Boris"?  Fortune telling, hey?  What are the winning x-lotto numbers, please?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)


Quote:

Nothing is making it better. It is what it is - Radical Acceptance.

Where?  Who's doing that?  I suppose it is better the continual Racist based condemnation without offering any solutions?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)


Quote:

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's quote, "Human nature, if it changes at all, changes not much faster than the geological face of the earth," emphasizes the idea that human nature is incredibly slow to change. He suggests that the core characteristics and tendencies of humanity remain relatively constant over long periods, much like the slow, gradual changes in the Earth's landscape. This quote highlights the enduring nature of both good and bad impulses within individuals and societies.

Well, your lack of offering any form of solution to the problems the Indigenous Australians face in the Northern Territory is showing us that human nature never changes, hey, "Boris"?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 3:41pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 3:13pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 12:48pm: freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 12:23pm: Quote: My expectations are that Indigenous Australians are human beings Are you sure you aren't setting the bar too high for them Brian? Are you sure you aren't setting the bar too low for them, Freediver? [quote] Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2024 at 1:10pm: I post these memes because I am fed up with arguing with fools who do not know anything about the topic we are discussing, UnSub.  Some people refuse to learn, to acknowledge new research and findings and just stick to their old Racist beliefs.  They are WOFTAMs.  They are why Australia is holding Indigenous people to impossible levels of behaviour.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) What standards are impossible for aborigines to live up to Brian? Individually, basically none.  Collectively, basically anything demanded by superior Whites who feel they should be pseudo Whites rather than Indigenous Australians who are different to the White society.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Anything at all? Like not breaking the law?

Why do you assume the majority break the law?  Perhaps if they were taught what the law actually means they'd obey it.  It seems there is something lacking there in your thinking, like an assumption that everybody automatically understands and accepts what the law demands of everybody without finding out if they know what it means to everybody.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)
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I am not assuming anything. I am asking you whether not breaking the law is a standard that you think it is impossible for aborigines to live up to. Also, if they obeyed the law, would that make them "pseudo whites"?

What we see among too many white apologists for Aboriginal behaviour is the racism of low expectations. They believe Aboriginals are incapable of the self discipline and commitment to improve their conditions and must therefore be protected, much like animals in a zoo. 

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 4:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 3:41pm: freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 3:13pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 12:48pm: freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 12:23pm: Quote: My expectations are that Indigenous Australians are human beings Are you sure you aren't setting the bar too high for them Brian? Are you sure you aren't setting the bar too low for them, Freediver? [quote] Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2024 at 1:10pm: I post these memes because I am fed up with arguing with fools who do not know anything about the topic we are discussing, UnSub.  Some people refuse to learn, to acknowledge new research and findings and just stick to their old Racist beliefs.  They are WOFTAMs.  They are why Australia is holding Indigenous people to impossible levels of behaviour.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) What standards are impossible for aborigines to live up to Brian? Individually, basically none.  Collectively, basically anything demanded by superior Whites who feel they should be pseudo Whites rather than Indigenous Australians who are different to the White society.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Anything at all? Like not breaking the law? Why do you assume the majority break the law?  Perhaps if they were taught what the law actually means they'd obey it.  It seems there is something lacking there in your thinking, like an assumption that everybody automatically understands and accepts what the law demands of everybody without finding out if they know what it means to everybody.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

I am not assuming anything. I am asking you whether not breaking the law is a standard that you think it is impossible for aborigines to live up to. Also, if they obeyed the law, would that make them "pseudo whites"?[/quote]

Well, you're assuming that all Indigenous Australians are primitive, tribal people who do not understand modern Australian legal matters, Freediver.  Indigenous Australians are a varied lot, some are primitive, tribal people, most are not.  Some live in the Northern Territory, the majority do not.  Some live in remote communities well away from White people, the majority do not.  Some are poorly educated in White ways, the majority are not.  Some are not allowed by many White Australians not to be Australians, pseudo or on their own terms.  All are expected to live up to the legal requirements of Australians, some are educated to do that, some don't.  Some fall foul of a legal system that does not take into account if they do not appreciate the full letter of the law.  Perhaps that is the point I'm making, Freediver.  Perhaps we need to adequately educate people about their legal obligations? You like many White Australians seem to think that all Indigenous Australians automatically know what their obligations are.  Why?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Belgarion wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 4:47pm:

What we see among too many white apologists for Aboriginal behaviour is the racism of low expectations. They believe Aboriginals are incapable of the self discipline and commitment to improve their conditions and must therefore be protected, much like animals in a zoo.

An interesting point there, Belgarion.  Amongst many White condemners of Indigenous Australians, there is the racism of well, Racism.  Many set their expectations too high, based on the idea that Indigenous Australians are meant to be pseudo-Whites, not Indigenous Australians.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 5:15pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 4:09pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 3:41pm: freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 3:13pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 12:48pm: freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 12:23pm: Quote: My expectations are that Indigenous Australians are human beings Are you sure you aren't setting the bar too high for them Brian? Are you sure you aren't setting the bar too low for them, Freediver? [quote] Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2024 at 1:10pm: I post these memes because I am fed up with arguing with fools who do not know anything about the topic we are discussing, UnSub.  Some people refuse to learn, to acknowledge new research and findings and just stick to their old Racist beliefs.  They are WOFTAMs.  They are why Australia is holding Indigenous people to impossible levels of behaviour.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) What standards are impossible for aborigines to live up to Brian? Individually, basically none.  Collectively, basically anything demanded by superior Whites who feel they should be pseudo Whites rather than Indigenous Australians who are different to the White society.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Anything at all? Like not breaking the law? Why do you assume the majority break the law?  Perhaps if they were taught what the law actually means they'd obey it.  It seems there is something lacking there in your thinking, like an assumption that everybody automatically understands and accepts what the law demands of everybody without finding out if they know what it means to everybody.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) I am not assuming anything. I am asking you whether not breaking the law is a standard that you think it is impossible for aborigines to live up to. Also, if they obeyed the law, would that make them "pseudo whites"?

Well, you're assuming that all Indigenous Australians are primitive, tribal people who do not understand modern Australian legal matters, Freediver.  Indigenous Australians are a varied lot, some are primitive, tribal people, most are not.  Some live in the Northern Territory, the majority do not.  Some live in remote communities well away from White people, the majority do not.  Some are poorly educated in White ways, the majority are not.  Some are not allowed by many White Australians not to be Australians, pseudo or on their own terms.  All are expected to live up to the legal requirements of Australians, some are educated to do that, some don't.  Some fall foul of a legal system that does not take into account if they do not appreciate the full letter of the law.  Perhaps that is the point I'm making, Freediver.  Perhaps we need to adequately educate people about their legal obligations? You like many White Australians seem to think that all Indigenous Australians automatically know what their obligations are.  Why?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)[/quote]

I am not assuming anything. I am asking you whether not breaking the law is a standard that you think is impossible for aborigines to live up to. Also, if they obeyed the law, would that make them "pseudo whites"?

One thing I am assuming is that you think. Is that giving you too much credit Brian?

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 5:21pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 4:47pm: What we see among too many white apologists for Aboriginal behaviour is the racism of low expectations. They believe Aboriginals are incapable of the self discipline and commitment to improve their conditions and must therefore be protected, much like animals in a zoo.  An interesting point there, Belgarion.  Amongst many White condemners of Indigenous Australians, there is the racism of well, Racism.  Many set their expectations too high, based on the idea that Indigenous Australians are meant to be pseudo-Whites, not Indigenous Australians.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

You need to get away from this infantile fanaticism of assuming that everyone who criticises wrongdoing is somehow including all Aborigines.  NOBODY does that - but the figures speak for themselves.

It may seem righteous to you, but it is off the planet and only creates return hostility.

First get in touch with the reality that many make up the highest proportion per capita of crime in Australia - apparently you couldn't care less about dead women and abused and neglected children as long as your fantasy idea of 'culture' is adhered to. The only reason they even consider they have a 'culture' nowadays is because they are surrounded by masses more people from different cultures around the world - and so they have to consider theirs... but nobody can tell us what it is supposed to be other than some facile word to use to claim something special.

Dancing around a fire isn't culture ....

Just watching a thing on Novosti about NAIDOC week, and how they had all these kids in custody doing dances and - Great Snake Forbid - actually getting together even when from different tribal groups!! 

Well - NOBODY has any problem with 'cultural dances' here - Polish, Greek, whatever - do it all the time ....  but what EXACTLY is this 'Culture' they speak of?  And WHY does it predispose so many of them to criminal behaviour?

You can have your culture - we all do to some extent... but if your culture is criminal in nature - you have to learn that is no longer the rules.

Do YOURSELF a favour and lay out for us all PRECISELY what this culture is, Brian.  No motherhood comments, please ... and careful what you confess them to be ....

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 6:22pm:

You need to get away from this infantile fanaticism of assuming that everyone who criticises wrongdoing is somehow including all Aborigines.  NOBODY does that -

only borat, sorend, fd ..to name a few ::)

John Smith wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 6:24pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 6:22pm: You need to get away from this infantile fanaticism of assuming that everyone who criticises wrongdoing is somehow including all Aborigines.  NOBODY does that - only borat, sorend, fd ..to name a few ::)

They've never said ALL Aborigines ... discussing the actual crime rates automatically excludes from those crime stats those who do not commit them.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 6:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 6:24pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 6:22pm: You need to get away from this infantile fanaticism of assuming that everyone who criticises wrongdoing is somehow including all Aborigines.  NOBODY does that - only borat, sorend, fd ..to name a few ::) They've never said ALL Aborigines ...

they never said SOME aborigines

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 5:21pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 4:47pm: What we see among too many white apologists for Aboriginal behaviour is the racism of low expectations. They believe Aboriginals are incapable of the self discipline and commitment to improve their conditions and must therefore be protected, much like animals in a zoo.  An interesting point there, Belgarion.  Amongst many White condemners of Indigenous Australians, there is the racism of well, Racism.  Many set their expectations too high, based on the idea that Indigenous Australians are meant to be pseudo-Whites, not Indigenous Australians.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Are you saying that whites and Aborigines are fundamentally, not just superficially, different?

Please explain those fundamental differences.

John Smith wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 7:26pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 6:36pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 6:24pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 6:22pm: You need to get away from this infantile fanaticism of assuming that everyone who criticises wrongdoing is somehow including all Aborigines.  NOBODY does that - only borat, sorend, fd ..to name a few ::) They've never said ALL Aborigines ... they never said SOME aborigines

They don't have to when they are discussing the ones who commit crimes.

You see - there are Abos who don't do the crime and the time - and then there are Abos who do the crime and the time - and nowadays there are Abos who do the crime but not the time... that last is only soluble with a Two State solution - two different ways of life cannot co-exist when one sees nothing wrong with doing crime, including that parents and so-called elders do nothing to alter the ways of those committing crimes.

Abo fatigue

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 6:22pm:

You need to get away from this infantile fanaticism of assuming that everyone who criticises wrongdoing is somehow including all Aborigines.  NOBODY does that - but the figures speak for themselves.

When you fail to qualify your statement, I am forced to assume that you mean, well, "all" Indigenous Australians, Grappler.  If you qualified your language with the word, "some", it would mean "some" Indigenous Australians. You Racists claim that you are English speakers but you mash it up all the time.  Time you learnt to read and interpret your own language correctly.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)


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It may seem righteous to you, but it is off the planet and only creates return hostility.

So does your unwillingness to qualify your language, Grappler.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)


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Dancing around a fire isn't culture ....

According to whom?  Most cultures have fire dances at their cores.  Indigenous Australians are no different.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)


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Do YOURSELF a favour and lay out for us all PRECISELY what this culture is, Brian.  No motherhood comments, please ... and careful what you confess them to be ....

Why ask me?  I am supposedly ignorant about such matters, Grappler as your compatriots are always informing me.  As far as I know, Indigenous Australian culture is an ancient culture which has evolved over 60, 000 years.  It is complex and layered in many different ways and by many different tribes/clans/families/groups/mobs/etc. You lot seem to assume there is only one culture, for some strange unfathomable reason.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Frank wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 7:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 5:21pm: Belgarion wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 4:47pm: What we see among too many white apologists for Aboriginal behaviour is the racism of low expectations. They believe Aboriginals are incapable of the self discipline and commitment to improve their conditions and must therefore be protected, much like animals in a zoo.  An interesting point there, Belgarion.  Amongst many White condemners of Indigenous Australians, there is the racism of well, Racism.  Many set their expectations too high, based on the idea that Indigenous Australians are meant to be pseudo-Whites, not Indigenous Australians.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Are you saying that whites and Aborigines are fundamentally, not just superficially, different? Please explain those fundamental differences.

I have already explained the fundamentals of DNA and cultural differences to you, Soren.  That you have failed to grasp them is not my fault.  I am not going to do your research for you, it has already been laid out for you to understand.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 10:16pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 6:22pm: You need to get away from this infantile fanaticism of assuming that everyone who criticises wrongdoing is somehow including all Aborigines.  NOBODY does that - but the figures speak for themselves. When you fail to qualify your statement, I am forced to assume that you mean, well, "all" Indigenous Australians, Grappler.  If you qualified your language with the word, "some", it would mean "some" Indigenous Australians. You Racists claim that you are English speakers but you mash it up all the time.  Time you learnt to read and interpret your own language correctly.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Quote: It may seem righteous to you, but it is off the planet and only creates return hostility. So does your unwillingness to qualify your language, Grappler.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) [quote] Dancing around a fire isn't culture ....

According to whom?  Most cultures have fire dances at their cores.  Indigenous Australians are no different.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)


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Do YOURSELF a favour and lay out for us all PRECISELY what this culture is, Brian.  No motherhood comments, please ... and careful what you confess them to be ....

Why ask me?  I am supposedly ignorant about such matters, Grappler as your compatriots are always informing me.  As far as I know, Indigenous Australian culture is an ancient culture which has evolved over 60, 000 years.  It is complex and layered in many different ways and by many different tribes/clans/families/groups/mobs/etc. You lot seem to assume there is only one culture, for some strange unfathomable reason.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)
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There is zero need to qualify anything when discussing the criminal elements.  In plain English - you have zero right to assume that any comment is inclusive of all in a group.  that may be an easy way for you to evade actually dissing the real problems of any group, but it does nothing fror them or anyone else - and your responses create negative feedback in the loop.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 10:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 7:46pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 5:21pm: Belgarion wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 4:47pm: What we see among too many white apologists for Aboriginal behaviour is the racism of low expectations. They believe Aboriginals are incapable of the self discipline and commitment to improve their conditions and must therefore be protected, much like animals in a zoo.  An interesting point there, Belgarion.  Amongst many White condemners of Indigenous Australians, there is the racism of well, Racism.  Many set their expectations too high, based on the idea that Indigenous Australians are meant to be pseudo-Whites, not Indigenous Australians.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Are you saying that whites and Aborigines are fundamentally, not just superficially, different? Please explain those fundamental differences. I have already explained the fundamentals of DNA and cultural differences to you, Soren.  That you have failed to grasp them is not my fault.  I am not going to do your research for you, it has already been laid out for you to understand.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

You said they are superficial, insignificant differences.

Now you are saying they are significant enough to warrant different expectations in behaviour and conduct.

They can't be both. You don't have different behavioural standards just because of superficial, insignificant physical characteristics. That would be preposterous.

Please explain why we can't have the same expectations in standards of behaviour and conduct from people in Australia. Why is it racist to have the same standards and expectations?

I did warn you to be careful about what you attribute to them:-

"As far as I know, Indigenous Australian culture is an ancient culture which has evolved over 60, 000 years.  It is complex and layered in many different ways and by many different tribes/clans/families/groups/mobs/etc."

So you now state clearly that there was no concept of nationhood or sovereignty over land, water and resources - that there was no organised over-arching government apparatus  - and that their entire 'culture' was nothing more than that of a number of wandering small groups and differed for each group - meaning there was no 'culture' as such, and that, therefore, all this talk about 'celebrating their culture' - for example during NAIDOC Holiday - as well as carrying on endless campaigns to 'defend their culture', are all totally meaningless..... all flame and fury signifying nothing.  In reality it was anarchy, and that is on the wrong side of history now, along with the ancient raising the flag and claiming and imperialism by the spear and nullah-nullah - tell mothra that for me.

BTW - EVERY culture in history had a time when they danced around a fire... people sometimes still do it for fun ... until the Mad Governors got into the act, there were full moon naked dances on top of Mt Warning around a fire, man .... it's not exclusive to any 'indigenous' groups across the world.

https://motionarray.com/stock-video/dancing-around-campfire-316085/

https://motionarray.com/stock-video/people-dancing-around-fire-in-forest-2230935/

A friendly fire in the wilderness just brings out the primitive in us all...

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/solstice-celebration-big-bonfire-round-260nw-2427024111.jpg

Frank wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 10:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 10:20pm: Frank wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 7:46pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 5:21pm: Belgarion wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 4:47pm: What we see among too many white apologists for Aboriginal behaviour is the racism of low expectations. They believe Aboriginals are incapable of the self discipline and commitment to improve their conditions and must therefore be protected, much like animals in a zoo.  An interesting point there, Belgarion.  Amongst many White condemners of Indigenous Australians, there is the racism of well, Racism.  Many set their expectations too high, based on the idea that Indigenous Australians are meant to be pseudo-Whites, not Indigenous Australians.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) Are you saying that whites and Aborigines are fundamentally, not just superficially, different? Please explain those fundamental differences. I have already explained the fundamentals of DNA and cultural differences to you, Soren.  That you have failed to grasp them is not my fault.  I am not going to do your research for you, it has already been laid out for you to understand.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) You said they are superficial, insignificant differences. Now you are saying they are significant enough to warrant different expectations in behaviour and conduct. They can't be both. You don't have different behavioural standards just because of superficial, insignificant physical characteristics. That would be preposterous. Please explain why we can't have the same expectations in standards of behaviour and conduct from people in Australia. Why is it racist to have the same standards and expectations?

Yes he's all over the shop. DNA is not superficial.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 10:21pm:

There is zero need to qualify anything when discussing the criminal elements.  In plain English - you have zero right to assume that any comment is inclusive of all in a group.  that may be an easy way for you to evade actually dissing the real problems of any group, but it does nothing fror them or anyone else - and your responses create negative feedback in the loop.

So, then, why are Whites so guilty of committing crimes?  Why do they murder one another, commit incest, rape each other, commit Paedophila, robbery, theft, fraud so much?  Why does the Government tolerate this? Why aren't the elders disciplining Whites, why have they failed to bring Whites under control?

Is the message clear?  I am talking about White folk, they act civilised but underneath it all, they are savages, I am not sure they aren't cannibalising their children.  Why are so many White women be victims of domestic violence?  What is the elders doing about that?  Seems very one sided to me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

I am talking about a few White criminals but it sounds like I am slamming all Whites, funny that.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 8:44pm:

They don't have to when they are discussing the ones who commit crimes.

explains why they never discuss the ones doing crimes. For them it's always  'aborigines'

John Smith wrote on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 8:07pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 8:44pm: They don't have to when they are discussing the ones who commit crimes. explains why they never discuss the ones doing crimes. For them it's always  'aborigines'

They don't say that at all - they discuss crimes and some horrible things done.

Boris is a classic - mentions horrible things and you and Brian and a few other loose-mindeds instantly throw on your crusader cloak and try to say he is condemning all Abos for the crimes of some.

As I said to Brian - it may make you feel good to throw around ridiculous terms like 'racist' and such when discussing REAL problems - but it does nothing to resolve those problems.

Take some advice - stay away from mothra - that one is so mentally blind there is no hope... and the hatred in its soul is incredible... that is a lost cause - a houso if ever there was one - and mind bent on something.

Twilight Zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

... and I thought them boys inb WA what killed that kid were White... just goes to show, eh?  Don't look awful white...


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/thugs-drugs-and-absent-mothers-behind-the-monsters-who-killed-cassius-turvey/ar-AA1HCbN6?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=1ac4f3120ad54138cf8cb197c1bce24f&ei=8

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 12:16am:

..."As far as I know, Indigenous Australian culture is an ancient culture which has evolved over 60, 000 years.  It is complex and layered in many different ways and by many different tribes/clans/families/groups/mobs/etc." So you now state clearly that there was no concept of nationhood or sovereignty over land, water and resources - that there was no organised over-arching government apparatus  - and that their entire 'culture' was nothing more than that of a number of wandering small groups and differed for each group - meaning there was no 'culture' as such, and that, therefore, all this talk about 'celebrating their culture' - for example during NAIDOC Holiday - as well as carrying on endless campaigns to 'defend their culture', are all totally meaningless.....

Very well said.  I agree totally.

I also totally disagree with this persistent, so-called "Welcome to
country" that seems to precede every damned public meeting
these days—even when there are only non-indigenes present.
Nobody's listening.  It's only spouted because of the fear of
aggravating woke do-gooders.

So...  What is country?  With no "the","my", or "our"?

Before colonisation, Australia was not one country, but approximately
200+ "countries" or "nations". Think of pre-colonial Australia as being
similar to Europe, in the sense that each country was vastly different
to its neighbours. Each country had its own language, lore, traditions,
customs,  stories, song-lines, art dance, ecosystems and more.

And, just like Europe, those indigenous "countries" had their share of
bloody wars, with one "country" (or mob) attacking another for some
perception of territorial wrongdoing.  Aboriginals seldom moved more
than 200km from their home base, and of course had no idea of
other aborigines living on lands distant from them. 

The notion of a singular, united aboriginal (so-called) "nation" is nonsensical.

I have no problem with aborigines being given land to continue traditional living.
We have more then enough rural towns full of white bogans on the DSP and weird freaks on drugs and grog contributing nothing.

Traditional living probably doesn't mean hunting barramundi with a tinny with a lowrance gps and fish finder.

It is the urban aborigines who look more swedish then aboriginal who are the problem.


A massive grift diverting money from traditional communities.

My wife's hospital , 20 beds, is constantly short of nurses.
But they have an indigenous health officer on 100 k .
And for the last month , they have had no aboriginal patients, so " aunty" sit in her office having a snooze .

And " aunty" looks like she's Scandinavian.

Clearly this upsets the other over worked staff and they begin to resent an unfair system
It does nothing for group coherence

Over it

https://x.com/newscomauHQ/status/1939255036539973864

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I have no problem with aborigines being given land to continue traditional living.

There are more Aboriginal Australians today than prior to European colonisation. For them all to have enough land to continue traditional living would require us to give them the whole continent, and more. There are few, if any places left in the world with a low enough population density to allow a hunter gatherer lifestyle. They will happily take the land, but they will want a job as a park ranger to pay the bills.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 8:34pm:

They don't say that at all

you need to learn to read ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 10:21pm: There is zero need to qualify anything when discussing the criminal elements.  In plain English - you have zero right to assume that any comment is inclusive of all in a group.  that may be an easy way for you to evade actually dissing the real problems of any group, but it does nothing fror them or anyone else - and your responses create negative feedback in the loop. So, then, why are Whites so guilty of committing crimes?  Why do they murder one another, commit incest, rape each other, commit Paedophila, robbery, theft, fraud so much?

They are not blaming Aborigines for their own deeds.  That's the crucial difference that eludes you.

Twilight Zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 12:53pm:

Twilight Zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Have you found a reference to those ‘’extra long bayonets’’ yet?
Maybe they’re in the twilight zone.

freediver wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 7:41am:

Quote: I have no problem with aborigines being given land to continue traditional living. There are more Aboriginal Australians today than prior to European colonisation. For them all to have enough land to continue traditional living would require us to give them the whole continent, and more. There are few, if any places left in the world with a low enough population density to allow a hunter gatherer lifestyle. They will happily take the land, but they will want a job as a park ranger to pay the bills.

The whole land thing is a nonsense out of the Dark Ages and has no place in modern society. It simply cannot co-exist with the rights of all others, and they are just going to have to wear it.

My offer was the best on record - a specified area freehold for their own use etc - the rest is Open Range and free for access to all.  They can still wander about, camp and such - no problem ... just not on other freehold land without permission.

WHY is there any problem today and every day past and future?

The answer is simple.  A freehold area is a better deal than anyone else gets - take it and STFU - you don't have to work a lifetime to get hold of a plot for self and family - like everyone else.

Stop whinging about some mythical past that never existed in reality.

It's either that, main-streaming alongside everyone else, or The Homeland for you..... take your choice... but we've all developed Black Fatigue over the never-ending madness of pushing for totally unreasonable one-sided solutions that you can't even put to any good use.  You only want it to slight whitey for giving you so much - time to say NO was many years ago now.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 12:32pm:

The whole land thing is a nonsense out of the Dark Ages and has no place in modern society.

The problem is, you don't want Indigenous people in modern society.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 10:36am:

The problem is, you don't want Indigenous people in modern society.

Meaningless, snivelling drivel.

Aborigines ARE in modern society. The problematic ones are the ones that are LEAST willing to enter modern society, the ones that are least colonised and remained closest to their Stone Age habits and mindset with only booze and welfare money added. They need to embrace modern habits and thinking, like regular showers, putting rubbish in the bin, loving and protecting your kids, going to school, not beating the shite out of each other.

When IN modern society, behave like you are IN modern society, not in tribal Stone Age Magicland.

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 10:43am:

... like regular showers, putting rubbish in the bin, loving and protecting your kids, going to school, not beating the shite out of each other. ...

Do all non-indigenous people do that, Frannie?

I'm curious.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 11:24am:

Frank wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:43am: ... like regular showers, putting rubbish in the bin, loving and protecting your kids, going to school, not beating the shite out of each other. ... Do all non-indigenous people do that, Frannie? I'm curious.

No, you are not curious, clammy wanker, you are a sly idiot.   Read and comprehend (there's a challenge for you, turd) the whole post:


Aborigines ARE in modern society. The problematic ones are the ones that are LEAST willing to enter modern society, the ones that are least colonised and remained closest to their Stone Age habits and mindset with only booze and welfare money added. They need to embrace modern habits and thinking, like regular showers, putting rubbish in the bin, loving and protecting your kids, going to school, not beating the shite out of each other.

When IN modern society, behave like you are IN modern society, not in tribal Stone Age Magicland.

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 10:43am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:36am: The problem is, you don't want Indigenous people in modern society. Meaningless, snivelling drivel. Aborigines ARE in modern society. The problematic ones are the ones that are LEAST willing to enter modern society, the ones that are least colonised and remained closest to their Stone Age habits and mindset with only booze and welfare money added. They need to embrace modern habits and thinking, like regular showers, putting rubbish in the bin, loving and protecting your kids, going to school, not beating the shite out of each other. When IN modern society, behave like you are IN modern society, not in tribal Stone Age Magicland.

He consistently said he wants to lock them up in hermetically sealed domes and sell tickets to rich people to hunt them in that artificial habitat.

Again, you lash out when faced with a reality you don't like.

Too bad princess, harden up.  Don't get angry at me if reality doesn't support what you want to believe.

You're really angry today, are you ok?

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 12:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 11:24am: Frank wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:43am: ... like regular showers, putting rubbish in the bin, loving and protecting your kids, going to school, not beating the shite out of each other. ... Do all non-indigenous people do that, Frannie? I'm curious. No, you are not curious, clammy wanker, you are a sly idiot.   Read and comprehend (there's a challenge for you, turd) the whole post: Aborigines ARE in modern society. The problematic ones are the ones that are LEAST willing to enter modern society, the ones that are least colonised and remained closest to their Stone Age habits and mindset with only booze and welfare money added. They need to embrace modern habits and thinking, like regular showers, putting rubbish in the bin, loving and protecting your kids, going to school, not beating the shite out of each other. When IN modern society, behave like you are IN modern society, not in tribal Stone Age Magicland.

Are there any problematic non-indigenous people, Frannie?

I'm curious.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 1:30pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:00pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 11:24am: Frank wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:43am: ... like regular showers, putting rubbish in the bin, loving and protecting your kids, going to school, not beating the shite out of each other. ... Do all non-indigenous people do that, Frannie? I'm curious. No, you are not curious, clammy wanker, you are a sly idiot.   Read and comprehend (there's a challenge for you, turd) the whole post: Aborigines ARE in modern society. The problematic ones are the ones that are LEAST willing to enter modern society, the ones that are least colonised and remained closest to their Stone Age habits and mindset with only booze and welfare money added. They need to embrace modern habits and thinking, like regular showers, putting rubbish in the bin, loving and protecting your kids, going to school, not beating the shite out of each other. When IN modern society, behave like you are IN modern society, not in tribal Stone Age Magicland. Are there any problematic non-indigenous people, Frannie? I'm curious.

Is that as curious as you are about DT & how it was possible for this so called/alleged rapist to become POTUS twice in 9 years?

I'm curious.

Gnads wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 5:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:30pm: Frank wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:00pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 11:24am: Frank wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:43am: ... like regular showers, putting rubbish in the bin, loving and protecting your kids, going to school, not beating the shite out of each other. ... Do all non-indigenous people do that, Frannie? I'm curious. No, you are not curious, clammy wanker, you are a sly idiot.   Read and comprehend (there's a challenge for you, turd) the whole post: Aborigines ARE in modern society. The problematic ones are the ones that are LEAST willing to enter modern society, the ones that are least colonised and remained closest to their Stone Age habits and mindset with only booze and welfare money added. They need to embrace modern habits and thinking, like regular showers, putting rubbish in the bin, loving and protecting your kids, going to school, not beating the shite out of each other. When IN modern society, behave like you are IN modern society, not in tribal Stone Age Magicland. Are there any problematic non-indigenous people, Frannie? I'm curious. Is that as curious as you are about DT & how it was possible for this so called/alleged rapist to become POTUS twice in 9 years? I'm curious.

Donald Trump isn't an 'alleged' rapist - he's an adjudicated rapist.

He raped a woman.  Fact.

Now, are there any problematic non-indigenous people?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 11:24am:

Frank wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:43am: ... like regular showers, putting rubbish in the bin, loving and protecting your kids, going to school, not beating the shite out of each other. ... Do all non-indigenous people do that, Frannie? I'm curious.

Nowhere near at the the off-the-chart rate as Aborigynes.


Not everyone is perfect.  Aborigynes tend to be startlingly less perfect than others. The assimilated ones are doing as well as anyone. It's the poor buggers kept in 'culture' in remote traditional shitholes who suffer and make their kind around them suffer them. Learn English, shower, finish school, care for your children and wife, clean your house. Living in your own squalor and going at the police with axes and scissors because of Captain Cook is not the way. Raping your niece and neglecting your children and breaking your wife's skull because of Arthur Phillip  is not the way.

Blaming me or you - whitey, 3000 km away - is bollocks. Either they are equal or they are not. Cant have it both ways.

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 7:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 11:24am: Frank wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:43am: ... like regular showers, putting rubbish in the bin, loving and protecting your kids, going to school, not beating the shite out of each other. ... Do all non-indigenous people do that, Frannie? I'm curious. Not everyone is perfect.

Ah.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 7:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:00pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 11:24am: Frank wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:43am: ... like regular showers, putting rubbish in the bin, loving and protecting your kids, going to school, not beating the shite out of each other. ... Do all non-indigenous people do that, Frannie? I'm curious. Not everyone is perfect.  Ah.

Thank you Bbwiyawn. 

Abos need to go walkabout in the world.
Oh that's right. They're too scared to see who they truly are.

The Indian truck driver menace

https://www.noticer.news/indian-truck-driver-menace/

https://www.noticer.news/foreign-indian-truck-drivers-australia/

First it was Asian women drivers. Now it's a flood of Indian drivers.


Next?

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 2:28pm:

The Indian truck driver menace https://www.noticer.news/indian-truck-driver-menace/ https://www.noticer.news/foreign-indian-truck-drivers-australia/ First it was Asian women drivers. Now it's a flood of Indian drivers. Next?

The elderly.

Time to hand in your license Frank.

Lol. Sad Kangaroo 🦘 got banned.
...and had a sook at Monk's over it. ;D

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2025 at 2:28pm:

The Indian truck driver menace https://www.noticer.news/indian-truck-driver-menace/ https://www.noticer.news/foreign-indian-truck-drivers-australia/ First it was Asian women drivers. Now it's a flood of Indian drivers. Next?

Remember the spate of Curry muncher drivers in Linfox trucks stuffing up. ;D

Jasin wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 9:00am:

Lol. Sad Kangaroo 🦘 got banned. ...and had a sook at Monk's over it. ;D

Good see some consistency from the Mods....

I sat out a ban replying to the Morbid Roo  for using the same language he did.

Only I wasn't on another forum with Ozpol members doing a whinge about it. ;D

Ya can't say "C" in Canada ... or 'Straya apparently  ;)

Jasin wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 9:01am:

Frank wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:28pm: The Indian truck driver menace https://www.noticer.news/indian-truck-driver-menace/ https://www.noticer.news/foreign-indian-truck-drivers-australia/ First it was Asian women drivers. Now it's a flood of Indian drivers. Next? Remember the spate of Curry muncher drivers in Linfox trucks stuffing up. ;D

They tell me the story of long distance 2 up curry muncher truck drivers cutting a hole in the floor of the cab over the gearbox and using it as a toilet is a myth... no real evidence produced they say ..

but some how I think there may be a grain of truth in it somewhere. ;D

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 1:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:56pm: I doubt that - slavery was an afterthought that Lincoln used to ennoble his cause. Slavery kept the South rich with all that free labor. The confederates primary income was cotton. This was over a century after the start of the industrial revolution. The northern states were far more industrialised. Not a huge difference, but enough to tip the balance in the war. It was a technologically more advanced economy up against a less advanced one. Even many of the new inventions for the cotton industry came from northerners. A slave owner has no motivation to reduce human labour, because he never toils in the field. A slave has no motivation to stick his neck out, when he will not get any benefit from his invention, and would probably be denied the means to build it anyway. A slave cannot do much to improve his lot in life, and his primary motivation is to do less work. A slave owner's primary focus is to get as much labour as possible out of the slaves. Slavery inevitably stagnates economies. As well as putting more thought into their work and being more creative, free men often worked harder than their enslaved contemporaries, simply because they were motivated to do so.

And yet the Darkies are still not free -
most of them live in black ghettos and have to resort to crime to survive -
mostly drug dealing.
White people can't even go there -
they would be mugged, stabbed or even shot and killed just for having a white face.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 9:46am:

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:59pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:56pm: I doubt that - slavery was an afterthought that Lincoln used to ennoble his cause. Slavery kept the South rich with all that free labor. The confederates primary income was cotton. This was over a century after the start of the industrial revolution. The northern states were far more industrialised. Not a huge difference, but enough to tip the balance in the war. It was a technologically more advanced economy up against a less advanced one. Even many of the new inventions for the cotton industry came from northerners. A slave owner has no motivation to reduce human labour, because he never toils in the field. A slave has no motivation to stick his neck out, when he will not get any benefit from his invention, and would probably be denied the means to build it anyway. A slave cannot do much to improve his lot in life, and his primary motivation is to do less work. A slave owner's primary focus is to get as much labour as possible out of the slaves. Slavery inevitably stagnates economies. As well as putting more thought into their work and being more creative, free men often worked harder than their enslaved contemporaries, simply because they were motivated to do so. And yet the Darkies are still not free - most of them live in black ghettos and have to resort to crime to survive - mostly drug dealing. White people can't even go there - they would be mugged, stabbed or even shot and killed just for having a white face.

What are you talking about Bobby?

Gnads wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 9:39am:

Jasin wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 9:01am: Frank wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:28pm: The Indian truck driver menace https://www.noticer.news/indian-truck-driver-menace/ https://www.noticer.news/foreign-indian-truck-drivers-australia/ First it was Asian women drivers. Now it's a flood of Indian drivers. Next? Remember the spate of Curry muncher drivers in Linfox trucks stuffing up. ;D They tell me the story of long distance 2 up curry muncher truck drivers cutting a hole in the floor of the cab over the gearbox and using it as a toilet is a myth... no real evidence produced they say .. but some how I think there may be a grain of truth in it somewhere. ;D

Yes, I would believe it. A spate of Linfox Curry muncher drivers getting cornflake tickets by fellow curry munchers passing them. One driver jammed his truck under a too low bridge and couldn't even reverse it out. The Mussos are just as bad. Take food delivery drivers. They never wear the lower strap of the seatbelt on properly, just the shoulder strap, with the lower being behind their backs.

freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 9:52am:

What are you talking about Bobby?

Racism.

Where do you think all those black ghettos are?

freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 10:20am:

Where do you think all those black ghettos are?

Try Chicago for starters.

Have you ever set foot outside Australia?

freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 10:21am:

Have you ever set foot outside Australia?

yes -

the UK, France, USA, Spain.

And you saw these ghettos yourself?

freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 10:29am:

And you saw these ghettos yourself?

I didn't go anywhere near ghettos -
it's too dangerous.
I've only seen them on TV and YouTube.

Would you walk through a black ghetto in Chicago? -
maybe you could make a documentary about it?

What TV shows? The Cosby Show?

freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 10:38am:

What TV shows? The Cosby Show?

No - you could watch some of the videos here:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1680159949/0#0

None of those are on TV Bobby.

Can you think of a single TV show that has shown a USA ghetto?

freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

None of those are on TV Bobby. Can you think of a single TV show that has shown a USA ghetto?

Yes - I watched a few of those 48 hours videos.
It shows solving crimes within 48 hours of its commission.

Can you post a photo of one of these ghettoes? Not a black man with facial tattoos and piercings.

freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 10:53am:

Can you post a photo of one of these ghettoes? Not a black man with facial tattoos and piercings.

https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1024/1*yhVjusHuypl5fdjuQDgVag.jpeg


https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/6222554_AP20152013020812.jpg


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uhZ30USUk70/maxresdefault.jpg

You're a Christian Bobby.
Just carry your bible and God will protect you.  ;D

Jasin wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 11:12am:

You're a Christian Bobby. Just carry your bible and God will protect you.  ;D

Ohh yes - the Bible will absorb the bullets -

in the USA every crack head, meth head, pot head, psycho and criminal has a gun.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 11:08am:

freediver wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 10:53am: Can you post a photo of one of these ghettoes? Not a black man with facial tattoos and piercings. https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1024/1*yhVjusHuypl5fdjuQDgVag.jpeg https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/6222554_AP20152013020812.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uhZ30USUk70/maxresdefault.jpg

That's very impressive housing for a ghetto, don't you think Bobby?

And even the guy passed out in a chair is wearing clean clothes. Reminds me a bit of Randwick.

Jasin wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 9:00am:

Lol. Sad Kangaroo 🦘 got banned. ...and had a sook at Monk's over it. ;D

It was honestly quite pleasant having you muted, but I noticed your reply quoted by Gnads, so I figured, why not throw a little of that attention your way? You've clearly been craving it, and starving for it.

And I'm actually glad you raised that point. Yes, I got a week off. No explanation from the mods, of course, but I assume it was for bypassing the swear filter.

I'd long suspected that most of the rules here were just decorative, window dressing to make it look like someone's in control. The sheer volume of abuse, personal attacks, and open bigotry that get waved through with a shrug seemed to confirm that. So I started testing it, seeing where the line actually was.

Turns out, the rules do matter, just not in any coherent or consistent way. I learned the hard way that the mods, and ultimately FD, make very deliberate choices about which rules to enforce and which to ignore.

So you can't call someone, accurately or otherwise, a C-word, even if you obscure it to slip past the filter, but you can be openly racist. You can use slurs. You can advocate for genocide or relentlessly vilify people for their race, sexuality, or disability.

As long as you're punching down, apparently, that's fair game. But swear? Heaven forbid.

What this reveals is not just inconsistency, it's complicity. It means FD and the mod team aren't just tolerating the racism, queerphobia, and hate that gets spewed across this place, they're actively protecting it. That's the one kind of speech that seems to enjoy immunity here.

So thank you, Jasin. I genuinely mean that. Your smug little jab helped bring all this into focus.

Sure it won't matter, nothing will change, but at least we all know the state of play.

Well - there'll never be any reduction in racism while ever governments promote policies of division by race or by ethnicity or by social group or religion and of exclusion by race etc .... and there'll never be any reduction in wacism while ever people search relentlessly to find new ways of describing it and are so blinded as to see wacism everywhere.

It's exactly the same as there'll never be any reduction in 'misogyny' while ever you try so hard to paint women as victims of the very society in which they live - so you'll never get rid of Abophobia and such while ever you perpetuate the blurry thinking that Abos and some other whingers are all victims of the society in which they actually thrive far better than they ever did back in their dreamtimes respective.

No wonder Black Fatigue and Whinger Fatigue are on the rise.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 11:57am:

Jasin wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 9:00am: Lol. Sad Kangaroo 🦘 got banned. ...and had a sook at Monk's over it. ;D It was honestly quite pleasant having you muted, but I noticed your reply quoted by Gnads, so I figured, why not throw a little of that attention your way? You've clearly been craving it, and starving for it. And I'm actually glad you raised that point. Yes, I got a week off. No explanation from the mods, of course, but I assume it was for bypassing the swear filter. I'd long suspected that most of the rules here were just decorative, window dressing to make it look like someone's in control. The sheer volume of abuse, personal attacks, and open bigotry that get waved through with a shrug seemed to confirm that. So I started testing it, seeing where the line actually was. Turns out, the rules do matter, just not in any coherent or consistent way. I learned the hard way that the mods, and ultimately FD, make very deliberate choices about which rules to enforce and which to ignore. So you can't call someone, accurately or otherwise, a C-word, even if you obscure it to slip past the filter, but you can be openly racist. You can use slurs. You can advocate for genocide or relentlessly vilify people for their race, sexuality, or disability. As long as you're punching down, apparently, that's fair game. But swear? Heaven forbid. What this reveals is not just inconsistency, it's complicity. It means FD and the mod team aren't just tolerating the racism, queerphobia, and hate that gets spewed across this place, they're actively protecting it. That's the one kind of speech that seems to enjoy immunity here. So thank you, Jasin. I genuinely mean that. Your smug little jab helped bring all this into focus. Sure it won't matter, nothing will change, but at least we all know the state of play.

https://quadrant.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/one-law.png

freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:08am: freediver wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 10:53am: Can you post a photo of one of these ghettoes? Not a black man with facial tattoos and piercings. https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1024/1*yhVjusHuypl5fdjuQDgVag.jpeg https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/6222554_AP20152013020812.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uhZ30USUk70/maxresdefault.jpg That's very impressive housing for a ghetto, don't you think Bobby? And even the guy passed out in a chair is wearing clean clothes. Reminds me a bit of Randwick.

You know there is a difference between a Ghetto & a Slum?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 11:57am:

Jasin wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 9:00am: Lol. Sad Kangaroo 🦘 got banned. ...and had a sook at Monk's over it. ;D It was honestly quite pleasant having you muted, but I noticed your reply quoted by Gnads, so I figured, why not throw a little of that attention your way? You've clearly been craving it, and starving for it. And I'm actually glad you raised that point. Yes, I got a week off. No explanation from the mods, of course, but I assume it was for bypassing the swear filter. I'd long suspected that most of the rules here were just decorative, window dressing to make it look like someone's in control. The sheer volume of abuse, personal attacks, and open bigotry that get waved through with a shrug seemed to confirm that. So I started testing it, seeing where the line actually was. Turns out, the rules do matter, just not in any coherent or consistent way. I learned the hard way that the mods, and ultimately FD, make very deliberate choices about which rules to enforce and which to ignore. So you can't call someone, accurately or otherwise, a C-word, even if you obscure it to slip past the filter, but you can be openly racist. You can use slurs. You can advocate for genocide or relentlessly vilify people for their race, sexuality, or disability. As long as you're punching down, apparently, that's fair game. But swear? Heaven forbid. What this reveals is not just inconsistency, it's complicity. It means FD and the mod team aren't just tolerating the racism, queerphobia, and hate that gets spewed across this place, they're actively protecting it. That's the one kind of speech that seems to enjoy immunity here. So thank you, Jasin. I genuinely mean that. Your smug little jab helped bring all this into focus. Sure it won't matter, nothing will change, but at least we all know the state of play.

Great deduction Sherlock - then the rest is such a friggin essay of self justifying excuses.

like who cares?

cop it on the chin ya dickhead - but instead you want to take the woke wanker moral virtue signaling high ground.


Quote:

FD and the mod team aren't just tolerating the racism, queerphobia, and hate that gets spewed across this place, they're actively protecting it.

More dribble from a pusillanimous twat.

Look at the Crime Statistics and try to understand people are sick of it.

The violence the crime the militancy.

The vast majority of Germans were peaceful but the Germans killed millions in both World Wars.

The vast majority of Japanese were peaceful but they killed millions in WWII.

The vast majority of Chines were peaceful but the Communists killed millions of people - the same in Russia.

The minority of violent evil people spoil it for the rest.

People see the crime and violence and hold it against the Aborigines - because it just gets worse despite the fact that the Taxpayer pays $40 Billion a year or more to try to make this better but it just gets worse and worse.

And I am over it.

Gnads wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 1:05pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:18am: Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:08am: freediver wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 10:53am: Can you post a photo of one of these ghettoes? Not a black man with facial tattoos and piercings. https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1024/1*yhVjusHuypl5fdjuQDgVag.jpeg https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/6222554_AP20152013020812.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uhZ30USUk70/maxresdefault.jpg That's very impressive housing for a ghetto, don't you think Bobby? And even the guy passed out in a chair is wearing clean clothes. Reminds me a bit of Randwick. You know there is a difference between a Ghetto & a Slum?

Sure.

Bobby claimed that most black Americans live in ghettos and have to resort to crime to survive. Going by those houses, crime must pay pretty well.

freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:08am: freediver wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 10:53am: Can you post a photo of one of these ghettoes? Not a black man with facial tattoos and piercings. https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1024/1*yhVjusHuypl5fdjuQDgVag.jpeg https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/6222554_AP20152013020812.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uhZ30USUk70/maxresdefault.jpg That's very impressive housing for a ghetto, don't you think Bobby? And even the guy passed out in a chair is wearing clean clothes. Reminds me a bit of Randwick.

Did someone say "ghetto"?

Celebrating 4th of July in a Philadephia ghetto.
https://x.com/PHILLYHEADLINE/status/1942278916384907622

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 11:57am:

Jasin wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 9:00am: Lol. Sad Kangaroo 🦘 got banned. ...and had a sook at Monk's over it. ;D It was honestly quite pleasant having you muted, but I noticed your reply quoted by Gnads, so I figured, why not throw a little of that attention your way? You've clearly been craving it, and starving for it. And I'm actually glad you raised that point. Yes, I got a week off. No explanation from the mods, of course, but I assume it was for bypassing the swear filter. I'd long suspected that most of the rules here were just decorative, window dressing to make it look like someone's in control. The sheer volume of abuse, personal attacks, and open bigotry that get waved through with a shrug seemed to confirm that. So I started testing it, seeing where the line actually was. Turns out, the rules do matter, just not in any coherent or consistent way. I learned the hard way that the mods, and ultimately FD, make very deliberate choices about which rules to enforce and which to ignore. So you can't call someone, accurately or otherwise, a C-word, even if you obscure it to slip past the filter, but you can be openly racist. You can use slurs. You can advocate for genocide or relentlessly vilify people for their race, sexuality, or disability. As long as you're punching down, apparently, that's fair game. But swear? Heaven forbid. What this reveals is not just inconsistency, it's complicity. It means FD and the mod team aren't just tolerating the racism, queerphobia, and hate that gets spewed across this place, they're actively protecting it. That's the one kind of speech that seems to enjoy immunity here. So thank you, Jasin. I genuinely mean that. Your smug little jab helped bring all this into focus. Sure it won't matter, nothing will change, but at least we all know the state of play.

Kanga is still having a sook.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh6pZQX22CQ

Bobbi is still having a dance.

https://x.com/JebraFaushay/status/1944812211089883414

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 6:33am:

I think racism is increasing. What we should aim for is to see skin colour no different from hair colour.

Ethnochauvinism AKA (misnamed) 'racism' is not about hair colour, skin colour, eye colour, big nose, small nose, etc.. It's about perceived ethno-cultural / religious difference.

Australia and all countries should take the ethno-troubled pigsty that is South Africa as a cautionary tale.

It will never be the ethnically reconciled and peaceful country that Mandela had hoped.

It will forever be divided by self-imposed apartheid.

"FD and the mod team aren't just tolerating the racism, queerphobia, and hate that gets spewed across this place, they're actively protecting it. "


That's because it is not racism etc - it is a small thing titled Reality = Smallotry (as opposed to bigotry)

Citing figures on crime for a specific group is not discriminatory - it is simple reality. 

93% of women killed in the Northern Territory in 'intimate situations' are Aboriginal..... it's not hard... it's truth.

Indians and Pakis burn women and throw acid in their faces at a rate infinitely above any other group... any number/0 = infinity.

Mussos kill infinitely more girls and women who seek to escape the oppression of their 'culture/religion'.

Honour killings of women are far more prevalent within certain groups.

Women's rights are decidedly different in certain 'communities'.

Abuse and neglect of children is far more prevalent in certain groups.

Violence as a response to any situation is far more prevalent in certain groups.

Men can't be women - women can't be men, demented/delusional and thus mentally unstable men should never be allowed anywhere near women and girls and even young boys in private spaces...

Frank wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 12:25pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:57am: Jasin wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 9:00am: Lol. Sad Kangaroo 🦘 got banned. ...and had a sook at Monk's over it. ;D It was honestly quite pleasant having you muted, but I noticed your reply quoted by Gnads, so I figured, why not throw a little of that attention your way? You've clearly been craving it, and starving for it. And I'm actually glad you raised that point. Yes, I got a week off. No explanation from the mods, of course, but I assume it was for bypassing the swear filter. I'd long suspected that most of the rules here were just decorative, window dressing to make it look like someone's in control. The sheer volume of abuse, personal attacks, and open bigotry that get waved through with a shrug seemed to confirm that. So I started testing it, seeing where the line actually was. Turns out, the rules do matter, just not in any coherent or consistent way. I learned the hard way that the mods, and ultimately FD, make very deliberate choices about which rules to enforce and which to ignore. So you can't call someone, accurately or otherwise, a C-word, even if you obscure it to slip past the filter, but you can be openly racist. You can use slurs. You can advocate for genocide or relentlessly vilify people for their race, sexuality, or disability. As long as you're punching down, apparently, that's fair game. But swear? Heaven forbid. What this reveals is not just inconsistency, it's complicity. It means FD and the mod team aren't just tolerating the racism, queerphobia, and hate that gets spewed across this place, they're actively protecting it. That's the one kind of speech that seems to enjoy immunity here. So thank you, Jasin. I genuinely mean that. Your smug little jab helped bring all this into focus. Sure it won't matter, nothing will change, but at least we all know the state of play. https://quadrant.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/one-law.png

Great picture Frank. I didn't think anyone would know about that one.
You can see why the Left don't like the British political sponsorship of Australia. They only want the top left picture to exist.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 11:57am:

Jasin wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 9:00am: Lol. Sad Kangaroo 🦘 got banned. ...and had a sook at Monk's over it. ;D It was honestly quite pleasant having you muted, but I noticed your reply quoted by Gnads, so I figured, why not throw a little of that attention your way? You've clearly been craving it, and starving for it. And I'm actually glad you raised that point. Yes, I got a week off. No explanation from the mods, of course, but I assume it was for bypassing the swear filter. I'd long suspected that most of the rules here were just decorative, window dressing to make it look like someone's in control. The sheer volume of abuse, personal attacks, and open bigotry that get waved through with a shrug seemed to confirm that. So I started testing it, seeing where the line actually was. Turns out, the rules do matter, just not in any coherent or consistent way. I learned the hard way that the mods, and ultimately FD, make very deliberate choices about which rules to enforce and which to ignore. So you can't call someone, accurately or otherwise, a C-word, even if you obscure it to slip past the filter, but you can be openly racist. You can use slurs. You can advocate for genocide or relentlessly vilify people for their race, sexuality, or disability. As long as you're punching down, apparently, that's fair game. But swear? Heaven forbid. What this reveals is not just inconsistency, it's complicity. It means FD and the mod team aren't just tolerating the racism, queerphobia, and hate that gets spewed across this place, they're actively protecting it. That's the one kind of speech that seems to enjoy immunity here. So thank you, Jasin. I genuinely mean that. Your smug little jab helped bring all this into focus. Sure it won't matter, nothing will change, but at least we all know the state of play.

As the great Melbournian band T.I.S.M once sang "I might be a ****, but I'm not a f#@king ****."
Big difference. I'm glad I could help you see the error of your ways.
Now repeat after me... "Trump is my daddy."

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Survey finds 'significant' rise in racism

Everyone wants to blame someone else and for many not much of an excuse is needed.

When you have a US lunatic driving racism in one of the largest nations it is easy for the like minded across the world to follow.

And yet racism and violence against White Europeans somehow connects with the Left, not Trump.
But little pink Dnarever doesn't want to admit it.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 9:59pm:

"FD and the mod team aren't just tolerating the racism, queerphobia, and hate that gets spewed across this place, they're actively protecting it. " That's because it is not racism etc - it is a small thing titled Reality = Smallotry (as opposed to bigotry) Citing figures on crime for a specific group is not discriminatory - it is simple reality.  93% of women killed in the Northern Territory in 'intimate situations' are Aboriginal..... it's not hard... it's truth. Indians and Pakis burn women and throw acid in their faces at a rate infinitely above any other group... any number/0 = infinity. Mussos kill infinitely more girls and women who seek to escape the oppression of their 'culture/religion'. Honour killings of women are far more prevalent within certain groups. Women's rights are decidedly different in certain 'communities'. Abuse and neglect of children is far more prevalent in certain groups. Violence as a response to any situation is far more prevalent in certain groups. Men can't be women - women can't be men, demented/delusional and thus mentally unstable men should never be allowed anywhere near women and girls and even young boys in private spaces...

It continues - the usual excuses trotted out "Aboriginal sorry business"(as if that's relevant), drunkenness, came from a big family etc.

On probation with a suspended sentence & the idiot Magistrate(Female) gives him 3 years then sets a parole date for 5 months. FFS. ::)



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John Paul Tobane pleads guilty in Maryborough court to strangulation: For hours a Qld mother of eight endured “terrifying” acts of domestic violence at a motel after a day of ‘sorry business’ until a neighbour phoned triple-0. John Paul Tobane, 41, pleaded guilty in Maryborough District Court on Tuesday to assaults occasioning bodily harm, two counts of strangulation and three counts of common assault. The court heard the incident happened on August 30, 2024. Crown prosecutor Seamus McManus said it was a protracted domestic violence incident against his partner, with whom he shared eight children and had been in a relationship with for 21 years. Mr McManus said on the day of the attacks the two had been drinking in a motel room when he became aggressive and punched her multiple times to the face, causing her to fall to the ground. She had tried to walk away but he ran after her, Mr McManus said, hitting her and again causing her to fall to the ground where he delivered multiple kicks to her head and face. Tobane then grabbed her by the shirt and dragged her along the concrete ground, causing abrasions to the left side of her face. She ran inside the bedroom and Tobane followed her inside where he strangled her on the bed. The woman fought him off and Tobane had grabbed an empty alcohol can and tried to slash her neck, Mr McManus said, but instead it hit her nose, leaving a cut. Tobane then strangled the woman a second time.A neighbour in the complex called triple-0 and the woman was taken to Maryborough Hospital for treatment for her injuries. Tobane was found by police the following day, declined to take part in an interview and had been remanded in custody since that time. “It would have been a distressing and terrifying experience,” Mr McManus said. In Tobane’s defence, the court heard he and his partner had come into town for “sorry business” and spent the day grieving before the incident. When they returned to the motel, they both began to drink heavily, the court heard, but that was not an excuse for what had happened. Tobane was ashamed of his conduct on that day and was looking to complete a resilience program and a Deadly Choices program, the court was told. ;D ;D ;D ;D He was a member of a large family and had nine siblings and upon his release from custody was intending to live with his sister. He had left school as a teenager and done labouring and cash-in-hand jobs before having a heart attack at 27 from “unhealthy lifestyle choices” he had made. Judge Deborah Richards said she accepted Tobane was ashamed of his behaviour. “So you should be,” she said. She also accepted that he was drunk at the time but said that was no excuse. Judge Richards said at the time of the offending Tobane had been on probation and a suspended sentence. She said the offending would have been terrifying for the victim. Tobane was given a head sentence of three years in prison. A parole release date was set for December 31, 2025.

paywalled

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/fraser-coast/police-courts/john-paul-tobane-pleads-guilty-in-maryborough-court-to-strangulation/news-story/ecb04c7115c8c658a6173a30adf5b8e6

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freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 1:29pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 1:05pm: freediver wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:18am: Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:08am: freediver wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 10:53am: Can you post a photo of one of these ghettoes? Not a black man with facial tattoos and piercings. https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1024/1*yhVjusHuypl5fdjuQDgVag.jpeg https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/6222554_AP20152013020812.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uhZ30USUk70/maxresdefault.jpg That's very impressive housing for a ghetto, don't you think Bobby? And even the guy passed out in a chair is wearing clean clothes. Reminds me a bit of Randwick. You know there is a difference between a Ghetto & a Slum? Sure. Bobby claimed that most black Americans live in ghettos and have to resort to crime to survive. Going by those houses, crime must pay pretty well.

Did he say most?

Anyway - a lot do live in Ghettos & do resort to all types of crime to survive... crime is a broad brush for a lot of anti-social activity.

Anyway -
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The term slum is usually used to refer to areas in developing countries that suffer from absolute poverty, while the term ghetto is used to refer to areas of developed countries that suffer from relative poverty.

Ghetto

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Slum

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Did he say most?

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 9:46am:

And yet the Darkies are still not free - most of them live in black ghettos and have to resort to crime to survive - mostly drug dealing. White people can't even go there - they would be mugged, stabbed or even shot and killed just for having a white face.

When will Aborigines stop raping and murdering children?

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 3:38pm:

Kanga is still having a sook. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh6pZQX22CQ

Gnads wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 1:13pm:

More dribble from a pusillanimous twat.

So the only counter to the point raised has been personal attacks.

It says more than you "twats" realise.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 16^th, 2025 at 9:51am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 3:38pm: Kanga is still having a sook. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh6pZQX22CQ Gnads wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 1:13pm: More dribble from a pusillanimous twat. So the only counter to the point raised has been personal attacks. It says more than you "twats" realise.

That's the hypocrisy that got you a holiday numbnuts.

Gnads wrote on Jul 16^th, 2025 at 10:53am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 9:51am: Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 3:38pm: Kanga is still having a sook. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh6pZQX22CQ Gnads wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 1:13pm: More dribble from a pusillanimous twat. So the only counter to the point raised has been personal attacks. It says more than you "twats" realise. That's the hypocrisy that got you a holiday numbnuts.

Perhaps, "numbnuts", you should,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh6pZQX22CQ