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Message started by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2025 at 8:31pm

Title: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2025 at 8:31pm
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-ready-to-strike-iran-possibly-within-days-even-as-nuke-talks-set-to-resume/


Israel said ready to strike Iran, possibly within days,

even as nuke talks set to resume







Israel may hit nuclear sites without US help, NBC says; Iran reportedly prepared to launch hundreds of missiles at Israel in response; Oman confirms parley planned for Sunday.


By ToI Staff and Reuters
Today, 11:05 am



US officials believe Israel is ready to carry out an attack on Iran and could launch military action against Iran’s nuclear facilities in the coming days, reports suggested early Thursday, even as high-level talks aimed at a diplomatic deal over Tehran’s nuclear activity remained on track for Sunday.

The reports, from US networks NBC and CBS, that Israel was moving toward a long-threatened military strike came hours after the US announced it would evacuate some personnel from the region amid fears they could be targeted by Iran in reprisal actions.

The moves came after US President Donald Trump indicated he was no longer as confident as he had been previously that his administration could reach a deal with Iran, after negotiations appeared to snag over Tehran’s insistence that it be allowed to maintain low-level uranium enrichment.

A senior Iranian official told Reuters on Thursday that a “friendly” regional country had alerted Tehran over a potential military strike by Israel.

The official said tensions were intended to “influence Tehran to change its position about its nuclear rights” during talks with the United States set for Sunday in Oman, and vowed that Tehran would hold firm to its insistence on maintaining some enrichment.

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Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2025 at 8:36pm

More here:

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-considering-military-action-against-iran-in-days-without-us-support-reports-13382384

Israel considering military action against Iran in days without US support - reports


The US has ordered the evacuation of its embassy in Iraq as tensions rise in the region - with the Trump administration trying to reach a deal with Iran to curtail its nuclear programme.

Thursday 12 June 2025 09:30, UK


Israel is considering taking military action against Iran in the coming days - without American support, sources have told US media.

The reports come as US President Donald Trump is said to be in advanced discussions with Iran about a diplomatic deal to curtail the Middle Eastern country's nuclear programme.

Israel is said to have become more serious about a unilateral strike on Iran as the negotiations between Washington and Tehran appear closer to a preliminary or framework agreement that includes provisions about uranium enrichment.

Israel views those provisions as unacceptable.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government is therefore considering a strike on Iran, a Capitol Hill aide and other sources familiar with the matter have told Sky News' US partner network NBC News.


It comes as the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the UN's nuclear watchdog, formally found that Iran isn't complying with its nuclear obligations for the first time in 20 years. Iran insists it has always adhered to its IAEA safeguarding obligations.

An Israeli strike on Iran would be a dramatic break with the Trump administration which has argued against such a move.


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Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:05pm

Quote:
Iran leader says Israel a ‘cancerous tumor’ to be destroyed

May 23, 2020

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran’s supreme leader on Friday called Israel a “cancerous tumor” that “will undoubtedly be uprooted and destroyed” in an annual speech in support of the Palestinians, renewing threats against Iran’s archenemy in the Middle East.

Khamenei spoke to the nation in a 30-minute speech aired on state television, a rare address by the supreme leader as other officials in the past gave the keynote speech. He repeatedly referred to Israel as a “cancer” or “tumor” during the speech, criticizing the U.S. and the West for equipping it with “various kinds of military and non-military tools of power, even with atomic weapons.”

“The Zionist regime is a deadly, cancerous growth and a detriment to this region,” Khamenei said. “It will undoubtedly be uprooted and destroyed.”

After the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini ordered the first Quds Day be held on the last Friday of the holy Muslim fasting month of Ramadan to criticize Israel.

Khamenei also compared Israel to the coronavirus during the speech,

However, in the days running up to Friday, his office released a cartoon graphic showing smiling Iranian-backed forces, Arabs and two Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem under a headline that included the phrase “the final solution.” Nazi Germany used the phrase “final solution” to describe its plan for the Holocaust, in which its forces killed 6 million Jews in World War II.

https://apnews.com/article/a033042303545d9ef783a95222d51b83


Iran has violated the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty by enriching uranium to levels not required for power so it can be used for nuclear weapons.

Iran agreed to NPT for help with nuclear power the NPT forbids Iran from building nuclear bombs.

Iran only need to build 1 nuclear bomb Israel will be the target the bearded nutjobs who rule in Iran are delusional.

I support Israel in taking out Irans nuclear capability.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:16pm
It's all on Baron - it's the end.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT-NWDQDyYU

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:31pm
The concept of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) only works with rational people Bobby.
The Russians know what would happen.

The Mad Mullahs who rule Iran don't care about MAD if they die they get 72 virgins and a everlasting erection with rivers of wine in the Islamic afterlife which sounds like a heavenly brothel.

Since the IDF doesn't have planes that can carry the big bunker busters trump should help Israel.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:34pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:31pm:
The concept of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) only works with rational people Bobby.
The Russians know what would happen.

The Mad Mullahs who rule Iran don't care about MAD if they die they get 72 virgins and a everlasting erection with rivers of wine in the Islamic afterlife which sounds like a heavenly brothel.

Since the IDF doesn't have planes that can carry the big bunker busters trump should help Israel.



But the 60% enriched Uranium is held 500 metres below ground in an undisclosed location -
no one can get to it with any weapon.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:36pm

Jun 11, 2025


Iran claims it has a “treasure trove” of sensitive documents exposing
Israel’s clandestine nuclear program.
It added that added evidence would be released shortly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5ux-jKxe5E

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:41pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:34pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:31pm:
The concept of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) only works with rational people Bobby.
The Russians know what would happen.

The Mad Mullahs who rule Iran don't care about MAD if they die they get 72 virgins and a everlasting erection with rivers of wine in the Islamic afterlife which sounds like a heavenly brothel.

Since the IDF doesn't have planes that can carry the big bunker busters trump should help Israel.



But the 60% enriched Uranium is held 500 metres below ground in an undisclosed location -
no one can get to it with any weapon.


The Israelis know where it is.

Have a look at the hole in the ground where hezbollahs leader Nasrallah was hiding in his buker.

Nice job with pagers from Mossad in taking out Hezbollah.

Israel recently fired missiles from a ship at Yemen

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:42pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:31pm:
The concept of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) only works with rational people Bobby.
The Russians know what would happen.

The Mad Mullahs who rule Iran don't care about MAD if they die they get 72 virgins and a everlasting erection with rivers of wine in the Islamic afterlife which sounds like a heavenly brothel.

Since the IDF doesn't have planes that can carry the big bunker busters trump should help Israel.


The really mad ones are in Israel with their fingers on the button.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:44pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:34pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:31pm:
The concept of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) only works with rational people Bobby.
The Russians know what would happen.

The Mad Mullahs who rule Iran don't care about MAD if they die they get 72 virgins and a everlasting erection with rivers of wine in the Islamic afterlife which sounds like a heavenly brothel.

Since the IDF doesn't have planes that can carry the big bunker busters trump should help Israel.



But the 60% enriched Uranium is held 500 metres below ground in an undisclosed location -
no one can get to it with any weapon.


The Israelis know where it is.

Have a look at the hole in the ground where hezbollahs leader Nasrallah was hiding in his buker.

Nice job with pagers from Mossad in taking out Hezbollah.

Israel recently fired missiles from a ship at Yemen


Those bunker busters only go deep in dirt. When there is solid reinforced concrete, it is lucky to penetrate more than 10 meters.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:46pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:34pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:31pm:
The concept of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) only works with rational people Bobby.
The Russians know what would happen.

The Mad Mullahs who rule Iran don't care about MAD if they die they get 72 virgins and a everlasting erection with rivers of wine in the Islamic afterlife which sounds like a heavenly brothel.

Since the IDF doesn't have planes that can carry the big bunker busters trump should help Israel.



But the 60% enriched Uranium is held 500 metres below ground in an undisclosed location -
no one can get to it with any weapon.


The Israelis know where it is.

Have a look at the hole in the ground where hezbollahs leader Nasrallah was hiding in his buker.

Nice job with pagers from Mossad in taking out Hezbollah.

Israel recently fired missiles from a ship at Yemen



It's too deep -
even if if Israel knows where it is they can't reach it.



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Post by Ai_Took_Our_Jobs on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:49pm
Israel's vulnerable because they import energy and food.

Israel is not a party to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). They have not accepted IAEA safeguards on some of their principle nuclear activities. Lets hope they don't have an accident and discover depleted uranium in their drinking water.

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Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Setanta on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:52pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:34pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:31pm:
The concept of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) only works with rational people Bobby.
The Russians know what would happen.

The Mad Mullahs who rule Iran don't care about MAD if they die they get 72 virgins and a everlasting erection with rivers of wine in the Islamic afterlife which sounds like a heavenly brothel.

Since the IDF doesn't have planes that can carry the big bunker busters trump should help Israel.



But the 60% enriched Uranium is held 500 metres below ground in an undisclosed location -
no one can get to it with any weapon.


No-one can get to it and use it if it's 500m under a mountain of rubble either.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:54pm

Setanta wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:34pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:31pm:
The concept of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) only works with rational people Bobby.
The Russians know what would happen.

The Mad Mullahs who rule Iran don't care about MAD if they die they get 72 virgins and a everlasting erection with rivers of wine in the Islamic afterlife which sounds like a heavenly brothel.

Since the IDF doesn't have planes that can carry the big bunker busters trump should help Israel.



But the 60% enriched Uranium is held 500 metres below ground in an undisclosed location -
no one can get to it with any weapon.


No-one can get to it and use it if it's 500m under a mountain of rubble either.



Israel doesn't have the B2 bomber -
the only stealth aircraft that can deliver the largest munitions.
Israel can only make a few metres of rubble that would be cleared in one day.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Setanta on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:54pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:34pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:31pm:
The concept of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) only works with rational people Bobby.
The Russians know what would happen.

The Mad Mullahs who rule Iran don't care about MAD if they die they get 72 virgins and a everlasting erection with rivers of wine in the Islamic afterlife which sounds like a heavenly brothel.

Since the IDF doesn't have planes that can carry the big bunker busters trump should help Israel.



But the 60% enriched Uranium is held 500 metres below ground in an undisclosed location -
no one can get to it with any weapon.


No-one can get to it and use it if it's 500m under a mountain of rubble either.



Israel doesn't have the B2 bomber -
the only stealth aircraft that can deliver the largest munitions.
Israel can only make a few metres of rubble that would be cleared in one day.


If that was true then you'd think they would know it. Are you claiming they are stupid?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:05pm

Setanta wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:57pm:
If that was true then you'd think they would know it. Are you claiming they are stupid?



Israel can do a lot of damage to the Iranian nuclear program but they can't
get at the 60% enriched Uranium that is already made and which would be used
to make up to 8 nuclear weapons -
if it is further enriched to over 90%.

It looks more like a showbiz exercise than a proper mission
to end the Iranian nuclear program.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Setanta on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:05pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:57pm:
If that was true then you'd think they would know it. Are you claiming they are stupid?



Israel can do a lot of damage to the Iranian nuclear program but they can't
get at the 60% enriched Uranium that is already made and which would be used
to make up to 8 nuclear weapons -
if it is further enriched to over 90%.

It looks more like a showbiz exercise than a proper mission
to end the Iranian nuclear program.


They don't have to. They just need to stop others from getting to it. You seem to think they can only make a few metre cave in. If they were planing to hit it, it would be to bury it.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:15pm

Setanta wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:05pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:57pm:
If that was true then you'd think they would know it. Are you claiming they are stupid?



Israel can do a lot of damage to the Iranian nuclear program but they can't
get at the 60% enriched Uranium that is already made and which would be used
to make up to 8 nuclear weapons -
if it is further enriched to over 90%.

It looks more like a showbiz exercise than a proper mission
to end the Iranian nuclear program.


They don't have to. They just need to stop others from getting to it. You seem to think they can only make a few metre cave in. If they were planing to hit it, it would be to bury it.



The problem is that Iran will fire 1000s of missiles into Israel
and also hit US bases in the Middle East -
which could start WW3.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Setanta on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:18pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:15pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:05pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:57pm:
If that was true then you'd think they would know it. Are you claiming they are stupid?



Israel can do a lot of damage to the Iranian nuclear program but they can't
get at the 60% enriched Uranium that is already made and which would be used
to make up to 8 nuclear weapons -
if it is further enriched to over 90%.

It looks more like a showbiz exercise than a proper mission
to end the Iranian nuclear program.


They don't have to. They just need to stop others from getting to it. You seem to think they can only make a few metre cave in. If they were planing to hit it, it would be to bury it.



The problem is that Iran will fire 1000s of missiles into Israel
and also hit US bases in the Middle East -
which could start WW3.


So? They will and do anyway. Time to neuter them.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:54pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:34pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:31pm:
The concept of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) only works with rational people Bobby.
The Russians know what would happen.

The Mad Mullahs who rule Iran don't care about MAD if they die they get 72 virgins and a everlasting erection with rivers of wine in the Islamic afterlife which sounds like a heavenly brothel.

Since the IDF doesn't have planes that can carry the big bunker busters trump should help Israel.



But the 60% enriched Uranium is held 500 metres below ground in an undisclosed location -
no one can get to it with any weapon.


No-one can get to it and use it if it's 500m under a mountain of rubble either.



Israel doesn't have the B2 bomber -
the only stealth aircraft that can deliver the largest munitions.
Israel can only make a few metres of rubble that would be cleared in one day.


Israel does have conventional missiles they sent a few to Yemen a couple of days ago.

Israeli missiles are incredibly accurate they have shot down missiles with missiles if you think about it for a second that takes tremendous accuracy.

Reagan spent billions on US Star Wars missile defence the US couldn't get it to work they gave up.
Israel perfected this technology.

Iranian missiles are accurate to 200-500m they missed targets when firing them at Israel.



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Ai_Took_Our_Jobs on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:26pm
Hypothetically, Russia and China back Iran. China dumps it's US Bonds, driving up American interest rates , collapsing the dollar. That impedes the US funding the zionist's warmongering.

Other question, does Australia still trade with China ?

Zionists or financial collapse ?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:33pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:54pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:34pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:31pm:
The concept of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) only works with rational people Bobby.
The Russians know what would happen.

The Mad Mullahs who rule Iran don't care about MAD if they die they get 72 virgins and a everlasting erection with rivers of wine in the Islamic afterlife which sounds like a heavenly brothel.

Since the IDF doesn't have planes that can carry the big bunker busters trump should help Israel.



But the 60% enriched Uranium is held 500 metres below ground in an undisclosed location -
no one can get to it with any weapon.


No-one can get to it and use it if it's 500m under a mountain of rubble either.



Israel doesn't have the B2 bomber -
the only stealth aircraft that can deliver the largest munitions.
Israel can only make a few metres of rubble that would be cleared in one day.


Israel does have conventional missiles they sent a few to Yemen a couple of days ago.

Israeli missiles are incredibly accurate they have shot down missiles with missiles if you think about it for a second that takes tremendous accuracy.

Reagan spent billions on US Star Wars missile defence the US couldn't get it to work they gave up.
Israel perfected this technology.

Iranian missiles are accurate to 200-500m they missed targets when firing them at Israel.



Star Wars was about satellites in space that could shoot down missiles -
no country has that - as far as we are told.

The only way Israel could take out Iran's nuclear program
would be to nuke it -
Israel doesn't have the balls to do that.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Ai_Took_Our_Jobs on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:41pm
The announcement of a BRICS military alliance has undoubtedly shaken the global geopolitical landscape, raising critical questions about the future of international security dynamics and power structures. This unprecedented shift signals a departure from BRICS’ original focus on economic cooperation to a more complex and multifaceted partnership that now includes military collaboration. Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa, the key BRICS nations, have formally aligned their military strategies, positioning themselves as a counterbalance to perceived Western dominance, particularly that of the United States and its closest allies, such as Israel.

https://information-warfare.com/brics-military-alliance-shocks-the-world-a-new-global-power-balance-6c1c915efa6f


Iran’s Growing Military Ties With China, Russia Present a ‘Danger’ to US and Israeli Security, Experts Warn

Expanding military cooperation between Iran, China, and Russia presents a rising threat to the US and its allies in the Middle East, especially Israel, according to experts who spoke with The Algemeiner.

https://www.algemeiner.com/2025/03/12/irans-growing-military-ties-china-russia-present-danger-us-israeli-security-experts-warn/


Zionist warmongering against Iran is also warmongering against Russia and China. Nuke Iran and China/Russia will probably nuke Israel.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:07pm


USA Evacuates Personnel From Middle East. War Imminent?


Jun 12, 2025

The USA has started with operative steps that indicate a decision about war with Iran has been taken.
Trump ordered the withdrawal of non-essential personnel from its bases
and diplomatic outposts in West Asia (Middle East).
Why now? Well, look at the mess Israel is in and it suddenly gets clear that TelAvi
really needs this war to happen NOW.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feZxOKICklU

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 13th, 2025 at 1:00am

Quote:
Open Source Intel
@Osint613

BREAKING 🔴🔴

A mysterious fire broke out at the Javad Al-Aemmeh “fishing dock” in Iran’s Hormozgan Province, with over 15 boats engulfed in flames.

Firefighting efforts are ongoing, and the cause is still unknown.

I have some guesses about these “fishing boats”

https://x.com/Osint613/status/1933129034868957383


Quite a few fires in sensitive parts of Iran over the last 2 months must be global warming.  :)

The US did move a few B2 and B52s to Diego Garcia in the last 6 weeks they were refuelling off the Qld coast.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 13th, 2025 at 8:26am
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Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by wombatwoody on Jun 13th, 2025 at 8:36am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:49pm:
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Why are you ignoring much the same coming from Jews?

The standard in the Talmud is that girls can be married and are ready for coitus at the age of three and so are captive slave girls, while boys may be sodomized without penalty between the ages of three and nine. Non-Jewish boys only defile the Jew during sex above the age of 9.  Mothers who have sex with their eight-year-old sons are not rendered impure from the act, and girls below eleven years old are prohibited from using contraception during sex. Captive non-Jewish slave girls may be married to priests earlier than three-years-old and the Talmud says the warrior Joshua tested slave girls' virginity by inserting bottles of wine into them, though he was supposed to test them for "dropsy" instead.




- MOTHER/SON INCEST

Only sex/incest with boys above eight years old renders women impure

“If a woman sported lewdly with her young  son [a minor], and he committed the first stage of cohabitation with her, — Beth Shammai say, he thereby renders her unfit to the priesthood [4]. Beth Hillel declare her fit. R. Hiyya the son of Rabbah b. Nahmani said in R. Hisda’s name; others state, R. Hisda said in Ze’iri’s name: All agree that the connection of a boy aged nine years and a day is a real connection; whilst that of one less than eight years is not: [5] their dispute refers only to one who is eight years old, Beth Shammai maintaining, We must base our ruling on the earlier generations, but Beth Hillel hold that we do not.” – 1962 Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 69b

Footnote 4:  I.e., she becomes a harlot, whom a priest may not marry (Lev. XXI,

7).

Footnote 5: So that if he was nine years and a day or more, Beth Hillel agree that she is invalidated from the priesthood; whilst if he was less that eight, Beth Shammai agree that she is not.



-SEX WITH INFANT CAPTIVES

Captive slave girls (proselytes) can be married to priests below the age of three they are “fit for cohabitation”

“It was taught: R. Simeon b. Yohai stated: A proselyte who is under the age of three years and one day is permitted to marry a priest, for it is said, But all the women children that have not known man  by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves,  and Phinehas  surely was with them. And the Rabbis?  — [These were kept alive] as bondmen and bondwomen. If so, a proselyte whose age is three years and one day should also be permitted! — [The prohibition is to be explained] in accordance with R. Huna. For R. Huna pointed out a contradiction: It is written, Kill every woman that hath known man  by lying with him,  but if she hath not known, save her alive; from this it may be inferred that children are to be kept alive whether they have known or have not known [a man]; and, on the other hand, it is also written, But all the women children, that have not known man  by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves,  but do not spare them if they have known. Consequently it must be said that Scripture speaks of one who is fit for cohabitation.”  - 1962  Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Yebamoth 60b



-SEX WITH YOUNG BOYS

Boys between 3 and 0 are not “men” and can be used for sex without sin
***(PAY ATTENTION TO THE FOOTNOTES)***

“Our Rabbis taught: In the case of a male child, a young  one is not regarded as on a par with an old one; but a young  beast is treated as an old one. [23] What is meant by this? — Rab said: Pederasty with a child below nine years of age is not deemed as pederasty with a child above that. Samuel said: Pederasty with a child below three years is not treated as with a child above that.[24] What is the basis of their dispute? — Rab maintains that only he who is able to engage in sexual intercourse, may, as the passive subject of pederasty throw guilt [upon the active offender]; whilst he who is unable to engage in sexual intercourse cannot be a passive subject of pederasty [in that respect].[25] But Samuel maintains: Scripture writes, [And thou shalt not lie with mankind] as with the lyings of a woman.[26]. It has been taught in accordance with Rab: Pederasty at the age of nine years and a day“-  1962  Soncino Babylonian Talmud: Sanhedrin 54b

read more:

https://stopnoahidelaw.blogspot.com/2019/03/pedophilia-in-talmud.html

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 13th, 2025 at 9:44am
We're all doomed -
prepare to meet you maker.



https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/12/politics/trump-israel-iran-strike

Trump says Israeli strike on Iran ‘could very well happen’
and warns of possible ‘massive conflict’ in Middle East



Betsy Klein Kylie Atwood
By Betsy Klein and Kylie Atwood, CNN
2 minute read
Updated 5:46 PM EDT, Thu June 12, 2025



President Donald Trump warned Thursday of the possibility of “massive conflict”
in the Middle East that could take place “soon.”

US officials are increasingly concerned that the risk of Israel striking Iran has risen after Tehran said on Thursday that it would ramp up its nuclear activities due to the International Atomic Energy Agency passing a resolution saying that the country was not in compliance with its non-proliferation commitments, senior US officials told CNN.

Questioned about a potential strike on Thursday, Trump said it “could very well happen.”

“I don’t want to say imminent, but it’s something that could very well happen,” Trump told reporters at the White House.

US embassies in the Middle East carried out emergency action assessments this week, and that process is ongoing as the US monitors the threat environment in the region, the officials said.

Asked what the Israelis told him to prompt the departure of US personnel from the region, Trump replied: “They didn’t tell me anything, but I said look, there’s a chance of massive conflict.”

He described the deliberations that led him to the decision.

“We have a lot of American people in this area, and I said, look, we gotta tell them to get out cause something could happen – soon. And I don’t want to be the one that didn’t give any warning and missiles are flying into their buildings. It’s possible. So I had to do it. You know, I had the choice – do I do it or not? Doing it has its downside but it also has its upside, like you’re going to save a lot of lives if it should happen. Hopefully that doesn’t happen.”

Later Thursday, Trump in a Truth Social post underscored his preference for diplomacy in Iran, saying his administration remains “committed to a Diplomatic Resolution to the Iran Nuclear Issue!”


Trump also said he does not want Israel to target Iran as negotiations on a potential nuclear deal continue, with a sixth round of talks set for Sunday in Oman.

“I want to have an agreement with Iran. We’re fairly close to an agreement. … As long as I think there is an agreement, I don’t want them going in because that would blow it. Might help it, actually, but also could blow it,” he said when asked about a potential Israeli strike.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 13th, 2025 at 9:49am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:50pm:
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There are Eskimos living in igloos in Alaska who probably haven't invented much either. Doesn't mean they are any less worthy of life just because you wouldn't live like that.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0SW_UhTRExg

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 13th, 2025 at 10:08am
Trump speaks -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MweSMzEbMN4

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Ai_Took_Our_Jobs on Jun 13th, 2025 at 10:35am
Warmongering Zionists have attacked another peaceful nation.

Explosions near Tehran.


Now ... China and Russia's reaction !

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 13th, 2025 at 12:12pm
The trigger-happy war monger criminals in Israel have already started the bombing :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_6JxoeN664

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Belgarion on Jun 13th, 2025 at 12:17pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 12:12pm:
The trigger-happy war monger criminals in Israel have already started the bombing :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_6JxoeN664


Excellent! Remove the Islamist nuclear threat.  :)

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 13th, 2025 at 1:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 8:31pm:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-ready-to-strike-iran-possibly-within-days-even-as-nuke-talks-set-to-resume/


Israel said ready to strike Iran, possibly within days,

even as nuke talks set to resume







Israel may hit nuclear sites without US help, NBC says; Iran reportedly prepared to launch hundreds of missiles at Israel in response; Oman confirms parley planned for Sunday.


By ToI Staff and Reuters
Today, 11:05 am



US officials believe Israel is ready to carry out an attack on Iran and could launch military action against Iran’s nuclear facilities in the coming days, reports suggested early Thursday, even as high-level talks aimed at a diplomatic deal over Tehran’s nuclear activity remained on track for Sunday.

The reports, from US networks NBC and CBS, that Israel was moving toward a long-threatened military strike came hours after the US announced it would evacuate some personnel from the region amid fears they could be targeted by Iran in reprisal actions.

The moves came after US President Donald Trump indicated he was no longer as confident as he had been previously that his administration could reach a deal with Iran, after negotiations appeared to snag over Tehran’s insistence that it be allowed to maintain low-level uranium enrichment.

A senior Iranian official told Reuters on Thursday that a “friendly” regional country had alerted Tehran over a potential military strike by Israel.

The official said tensions were intended to “influence Tehran to change its position about its nuclear rights” during talks with the United States set for Sunday in Oman, and vowed that Tehran would hold firm to its insistence on maintaining some enrichment.


This is exactly why I was asking about where the line is with Trump and him starting WW3 here.

Because the current Iran problem is entirely Trump's fault.

Obama negotiated the Iran Nuclear Deal (JCPOA) in 2015. It curbed Iran's nuclear ambitions, extended their breakout time, and brought in international inspections. Iran complied. The deal did what it was meant to do: prevent war and buy time for diplomacy.

Then Trump came in and, in a fit of ego and political spite, tore it up in 2018, no breach, no cause, just to erase Obama's legacy and curry favour with Netanyahu. He didn't replace it with anything. He promised a “better deal,” but predictably couldn't deliver. Iran ramped up enrichment, hardliners took control, and the region began spiralling back toward conflict.

Then, in a breathtaking display of hypocrisy, Trump undermined the US's credibility even further by turning on Ukraine, the only country that fully denuclearised under a signed agreement with the US and Russia, with both pledging to protect them. And now, Trump sides with Putin, openly mocking Ukraine's defence and floating the idea of letting Russia “do whatever the hell they want” if allies don't pay up. So tell me, why would Iran, or anyone, ever trust the US again, especially under a Trump administration?

Biden inherited this flaming wreck and tried to salvage it, backchannel talks, lifting some sanctions, even working with European allies to reopen dialogue, but by then the damage was done. Iran had no reason to believe America could keep its word, and regional tensions were already boiling over.

So now here we are, staring down the barrel of a possible regional war, maybe worse. And make no mistake: this is Trump's mess. He broke the deal, destabilised the region, trashed American credibility, and handed Iran every excuse to walk away from diplomacy. The consequences are arriving now, right on schedule. And if this spins into something bigger, into World War III territory, it won't be because Biden didn't try. It'll be because Trump lit the fuse and walked away.

And all that talk from MAGA about how Trump would save us from WW3, and here is is walking us into it while they still cheer...

Will they ever accept the truth and hold Trump to account?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Frank on Jun 13th, 2025 at 1:57pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 1:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 8:31pm:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-ready-to-strike-iran-possibly-within-days-even-as-nuke-talks-set-to-resume/


Israel said ready to strike Iran, possibly within days,

even as nuke talks set to resume







Israel may hit nuclear sites without US help, NBC says; Iran reportedly prepared to launch hundreds of missiles at Israel in response; Oman confirms parley planned for Sunday.


By ToI Staff and Reuters
Today, 11:05 am



US officials believe Israel is ready to carry out an attack on Iran and could launch military action against Iran’s nuclear facilities in the coming days, reports suggested early Thursday, even as high-level talks aimed at a diplomatic deal over Tehran’s nuclear activity remained on track for Sunday.

The reports, from US networks NBC and CBS, that Israel was moving toward a long-threatened military strike came hours after the US announced it would evacuate some personnel from the region amid fears they could be targeted by Iran in reprisal actions.

The moves came after US President Donald Trump indicated he was no longer as confident as he had been previously that his administration could reach a deal with Iran, after negotiations appeared to snag over Tehran’s insistence that it be allowed to maintain low-level uranium enrichment.

A senior Iranian official told Reuters on Thursday that a “friendly” regional country had alerted Tehran over a potential military strike by Israel.

The official said tensions were intended to “influence Tehran to change its position about its nuclear rights” during talks with the United States set for Sunday in Oman, and vowed that Tehran would hold firm to its insistence on maintaining some enrichment.


This is exactly why I was asking about where the line is with Trump and him starting WW3 here.

Because the current Iran problem is entirely Trump's fault.


Tendentious, windy and blinkered bollocks, as usual.

Iran is days, weeks or perhaps a month or two from making a few nuclear weapons.
Biden had been in WH for the past four years. Before that, Trump for 4, and before that Bazza O'Bama for 8. Before that, Dubya for 8. Clinton for 8 before that. So that's about 32 years.
But for an idiot like you, it is all because of Trump who's been prez since last Jan.

Iran started its nuclear weapons program while Clinton was prez. Iran has vowed since and repeatedly to do pp e Israel off the map once it has acquired such weapons. Israel is about one third the size of Tasmania so it wouldn't take much to devastate it. ( By comparison, is an is about the size of Qld.)

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 13th, 2025 at 2:25pm

Frank wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 1:57pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 1:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 8:31pm:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-ready-to-strike-iran-possibly-within-days-even-as-nuke-talks-set-to-resume/


Israel said ready to strike Iran, possibly within days,

even as nuke talks set to resume







Israel may hit nuclear sites without US help, NBC says; Iran reportedly prepared to launch hundreds of missiles at Israel in response; Oman confirms parley planned for Sunday.


By ToI Staff and Reuters
Today, 11:05 am



US officials believe Israel is ready to carry out an attack on Iran and could launch military action against Iran’s nuclear facilities in the coming days, reports suggested early Thursday, even as high-level talks aimed at a diplomatic deal over Tehran’s nuclear activity remained on track for Sunday.

The reports, from US networks NBC and CBS, that Israel was moving toward a long-threatened military strike came hours after the US announced it would evacuate some personnel from the region amid fears they could be targeted by Iran in reprisal actions.

The moves came after US President Donald Trump indicated he was no longer as confident as he had been previously that his administration could reach a deal with Iran, after negotiations appeared to snag over Tehran’s insistence that it be allowed to maintain low-level uranium enrichment.

A senior Iranian official told Reuters on Thursday that a “friendly” regional country had alerted Tehran over a potential military strike by Israel.

The official said tensions were intended to “influence Tehran to change its position about its nuclear rights” during talks with the United States set for Sunday in Oman, and vowed that Tehran would hold firm to its insistence on maintaining some enrichment.


This is exactly why I was asking about where the line is with Trump and him starting WW3 here.

Because the current Iran problem is entirely Trump's fault.


Tendentious, windy and blinkered bollocks, as usual.

Iran is days, weeks or perhaps a month or two from making a few nuclear weapons.
Biden had been in WH for the past four years. Before that, Trump for 4, and before that Bazza O'Bama for 8. Before that, Dubya for 8. Clinton for 8 before that. So that's about 32 years.
But for an idiot like you, it is all because of Trump who's been prez since last Jan.

Iran started its nuclear weapons program while Clinton was prez. Iran has vowed since and repeatedly to do pp e Israel off the map once it has acquired such weapons. Israel is about one third the size of Tasmania so it wouldn't take much to devastate it. ( By comparison, is an is about the size of Qld.)


Obama had a treaty in place.  Iran was complying.

Trump cancelled it, saying it was "the worst deal ever." and promised a "better deal".

He delivered nothing.  All we got was Trump's "maximum pressure" campaign which was an aggressive strategy to force Iran into submission through economic strangulation, political isolation, and military deterrence, following the US withdrawal from the JCPOA.

All it did, however, was result in Iran adopting a hardened stance, ramped up nuclear enrichment, and empowered hardliners like President Raisi.

Regional tensions surged, with frequent proxy conflicts and attacks on US interests.

It backfired spectacularly on Trump and contributed to greater regional instability and nuclear escalation.

Which has led us to where we are today.

You can dismiss it with your childish insults all you like, but the above is verifiably true.

This is Trump's conflict, whether your TDS will allow you to admit it or not.

Point out what of the above isn't true if you disagree.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:31pm
I was right  - WW3 has started.

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-12-25-hnk-intl


What's happening now

• Israel attacks Iran: Israel has launched unprecedented strikes on Iran, targeting its nuclear program and senior military leaders in an attack that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said will last many days. Israel’s military says 200 fighter jets have been used. In retaliation, Iran has launched over 100 drones toward Israeli territory, Israel’s military said.

• Military leaders killed: General Hossein Salami, the commander-in-chief of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard, was killed in the attack. He was among the country’s most powerful figures. The attack also killed Major General Mohammad Bagheri, Iran’s highest-ranking military officer.

• Nuclear targets: Netanyahu said “Operation Rising Lion” struck Iran’s main enrichment facility in Natanz, nuclear scientists, and what he called “the heart of Iran’s ballistic missiles program.”

• US position: Secretary of State Marco Rubio said there was no US involvement or assistance in the strikes. Before the attack, President Donald Trump said he did not want Israel to target Iran as US negotiations on a nuclear deal continue.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:56pm
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-12-25-hnk-intl?t=1749797765901

5 min ago

Six of Iran’s nuclear scientists killed in Israel’s attack, Iranian state-affiliated media reports
From CNN’s Mostafa Salem
Six of Iran’s nuclear scientists were killed in Israel’s strikes, Iranian state-affiliated Tasnim news agency said Friday.

Among the scientists killed were Fereydoun Abbasi, the former head of Iran’s Atomic Energy Organization and Mohammad Mehdi Tehranchi, a physicist who also served as president of Islamic Azad University, the news agency said.

Earlier on Friday, Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei confirmed a number of military commanders and scientists had been killed in the strikes.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:57pm

So much for the rapist and convicted criminal being an anti-war President.

Since he took office existing wars have intensified and new wars have started.

You were all warned.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:57pm:
So much for the rapist and convicted criminal being an anti-war President.

Since he took office existing wars have intensified and new wars have started.

You were all warned.



Trump will not get his Nobel peace prize now.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Frank on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:57pm:
So much for the rapist and convicted criminal being an anti-war President.

Since he took office existing wars have intensified and new wars have started.

You were all warned.

Which ones has he started, creepy liar?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:57pm:
So much for the rapist and convicted criminal being an anti-war President.

Since he took office existing wars have intensified and new wars have started.

You were all warned.



Trump will not get his Nobel peace prize now.


He might get a hearing at The Hague though.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
I was right  - WW3 has started.


Do you reget your support for Trump yet?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Frank on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:56pm:
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-12-25-hnk-intl?t=1749797765901

5 min ago

Six of Iran’s nuclear scientists killed in Israel’s attack, Iranian state-affiliated media reports
From CNN’s Mostafa Salem
Six of Iran’s nuclear scientists were killed in Israel’s strikes, Iranian state-affiliated Tasnim news agency said Friday.

Among the scientists killed were Fereydoun Abbasi, the former head of Iran’s Atomic Energy Organization and Mohammad Mehdi Tehranchi, a physicist who also served as president of Islamic Azad University, the news agency said.

Earlier on Friday, Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei confirmed a number of military commanders and scientists had been killed in the strikes.

Khamenei next?


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:11pm

Frank wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:57pm:
So much for the rapist and convicted criminal being an anti-war President.

Since he took office existing wars have intensified and new wars have started.

You were all warned.

Which ones has he started, creepy liar?



ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 2:25pm:
Obama had a treaty in place.  Iran was complying.

Trump cancelled it, saying it was "the worst deal ever." and promised a "better deal".

He delivered nothing.  All we got was Trump's "maximum pressure" campaign which was an aggressive strategy to force Iran into submission through economic strangulation, political isolation, and military deterrence, following the US withdrawal from the JCPOA.

All it did, however, was result in Iran adopting a hardened stance, ramped up nuclear enrichment, and empowered hardliners like President Raisi.

Regional tensions surged, with frequent proxy conflicts and attacks on US interests.

It backfired spectacularly on Trump and contributed to greater regional instability and nuclear escalation.

Which has led us to where we are today.

You can dismiss it with your childish insults all you like, but the above is verifiably true.

This is Trump's conflict, whether your TDS will allow you to admit it or not.

Point out what of the above isn't true if you disagree.




Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:12pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
I was right  - WW3 has started.


Do you regret your support for Trump yet?


And it's not like they weren't warned.

Everyone knew that a second Trump term would bring the world much closer to WWIII.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:18pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
I was right  - WW3 has started.


Do you reget your support for Trump yet?



Bibi did it not Trump.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:22pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:18pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
I was right  - WW3 has started.


Do you reget your support for Trump yet?



Bibi did it not Trump.


So you hate the jews now?  Or does that logic only work for FD?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:23pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:18pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
I was right  - WW3 has started.


Do you reget your support for Trump yet?



Bibi did it not Trump.


So you hate the jews now?  Or does that logic only work for FD?



I am only a humble messenger.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:23pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:18pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
I was right  - WW3 has started.


Do you reget your support for Trump yet?



Bibi did it not Trump.


So you hate the jews now?  Or does that logic only work for FD?



I am only a humble messenger.


That's usually what you say when you've backed yourself in a corner and want to tap out.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:26pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:23pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:18pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
I was right  - WW3 has started.


Do you reget your support for Trump yet?



Bibi did it not Trump.


So you hate the jews now?  Or does that logic only work for FD?



I am only a humble messenger.


That's usually what you say when you've backed yourself in a corner and want to tap out.



Am I a prophet?

I did predict WW3 and the End Times.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:18pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
I was right  - WW3 has started.


Do you regret your support for Trump yet?



Bibi did it not Trump.


You think the rapist is gonna pull a Sgt Schultz?


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:18pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
I was right  - WW3 has started.


Do you regret your support for Trump yet?



Bibi did it not Trump.


You think the rapist is gonna pull a Sgt Schultz?



Trump knew nothing -  nothing.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Yadda on Jun 13th, 2025 at 6:04pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:18pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
I was right  - WW3 has started.


Do you reget your support for Trump yet?



Bibi did it not Trump.


So you hate the jews now?  Or does that logic only work for FD?


sadkangaroo,

Yeah......those infidels disbelievers and Jews are causing all of the problems ON THIS PLANET.

Yes ?





Yeah.....
Of course.....we must blame those stinking disbelievers/warmongers.......

Because ISLAM, is THE religion of peace,
and especially Iran is a seeker after world peace.
/sarc off





Quote:

“Peace and love are at the center of our religion, as evidenced by scripture and history,...”

- Sheikh Abdullah Bin Bayyah

CITED... https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/02/uae-forum-promotes-dubious-islamic-peace



ISLAMIC philosophy reveals the way to world peace......

------ >

According to ISLAMIC philosophy....world peace will be achieved......
when   >> the moslems <<   choose to make war....against THE WHOLE WORLD [i.e. those who are disbelievers].....
and then kill and destroy those stinking disbelieving warmongerers......
who hate the 'PEACE' which ISLAM offers to them.
/sarc off

The 'PEACE'.....of death and annihilation.....to all who reject ISLAMIC law.


"It's all explained in the religious philosophy of ISLAM
- so it's all OK."


---------- >


Quote:
.....
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.


https://sunnah.com/muslim:2922



"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter.
Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things."
Koran 9.38, 39


.


AND DON'T FORGET.....

"It's in the book - so it's OK."











Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 13th, 2025 at 7:13pm
Dear Yadda,
Iran has 10s of 1000s of ballistic missiles ready to fire at Israel -

will Israel survive the attacks from Iran in the next week?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by wombatwoody on Jun 14th, 2025 at 7:15am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:50pm:
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Title: Re: WW3 - the End Times
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 7:19am
It's the End Times,

the four horses of the apocalypse have arrived.




The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, depicted in the Book of Revelation,
are symbolic figures representing the end times and the various calamities that will befall the world.
They are often identified as Conquest, War, Famine, and Death,
each riding a horse of a specific color that symbolizes their respective domain.
Here's a breakdown of each horseman and their associated symbolism:

Conquest (White Horse):
The first horseman rides a white horse, carrying a bow and a crown, symbolizing military power and the ability to conquer.

War (Red Horse):
The second horseman rides a red horse and carries a sword, representing war, conflict, and bloodshed.

Famine (Black Horse):
The third horseman rides a black horse and is depicted with scales, symbolizing famine, scarcity, and the high cost of food.

Death (Pale Horse):
The fourth horseman rides a pale horse and is accompanied by Hades (or Hell), representing death, decay, and the end of life.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 14th, 2025 at 8:48am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:26pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:23pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:18pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
I was right  - WW3 has started.


Do you reget your support for Trump yet?



Bibi did it not Trump.


So you hate the jews now?  Or does that logic only work for FD?



I am only a humble messenger.


That's usually what you say when you've backed yourself in a corner and want to tap out.



Am I a prophet?

I did predict WW3 and the End Times.


No, you said that would happen if Harris were elected, and Trump would save us from that.

That's my point.

Now you're trying to gaslight us, pretending this was inevitable, when I've shown this is the direct result of Trump's actions.

So you've been wrong on both counts, but you want to pretend you foresaw this?

Bobbi, please...

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller on Jun 14th, 2025 at 8:53am
Been tellin' yez for years that the brushfire wars - added up - are an actual WW III in progress.

The Progressive Fifth Column back home has undermined Australia's will by putting its fire brigade members on trial for fighting the wars.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:54am

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-12-25-hnk-intl?t=1749858409159


39 min ago

Iran fired dozens of missiles in the past hour, Israel says

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:58am

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c93ydeqyq71t


Iran launches ballistic missiles at Israel as its supreme leader vows to "inflict heavy blows" in retaliation for Israel's overnight strikes

The BBC's Ione Wells reports hearing an explosion in Jerusalem as black smoke has been seen rising over Tel Aviv's skyline

Forty people are being treated in Israeli hospitals following the retaliatory strike, including two in critical conditions

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 10:11am

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-june-14-2025/


Woman critically hurt in Iranian missile attack dies from wounds

ToI Staff
More than 60 people wounded in barrages, including several injured
in latest salvo * IDF tells citizens to remain near shelters.




Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2025 at 10:59am

All thanks to Trump, the "anti-war" President   ::)

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:17am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 10:59am:
All thanks to Trump, the "anti-war" President   ::)



Trump was gonna bring peace to the world and win a Nobel peace prize.

What happened?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:34am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 10:59am:
All thanks to Trump, the "anti-war" President   ::)



Trump was gonna bring peace to the world and win a Nobel peace prize.

What happened?


The same thing that always happens - he lied.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:38am

Algeria Breathes Fire at Israel Live at UN | Rips Netanyahu In Fiery Reply !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGblj5qkTac

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:40am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 10:59am:
All thanks to Trump, the "anti-war" President   ::)



Trump was gonna bring peace to the world and win a Nobel peace prize.

What happened?


The same thing that always happens - he lied.



Are you saying that Trump was voted in under false pretenses?     :-/


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:00pm

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-14-25

22 min ago

Iranian drones heading for Israel, IDF says

From CNN’s Dana Karni
The Israel Defense Forces says it has identified more Iranian drones heading toward Israel.

“A short while ago, sirens sounded in several areas across Israel following the identification of UAVs launched from Iran toward the State of Israel,” the IDF said in a statement on Saturday.



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 10:59am:
All thanks to Trump, the "anti-war" President   ::)



Trump was gonna bring peace to the world and win a Nobel peace prize.

What happened?


The same thing that always happens - he lied.



Are you saying that Trump was voted in under false pretenses?     :-/


Everything he does is under false pretences, Bobby.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:08pm

Greggy,
I'm a prophet -
I predicted the four horses of the apocalypse.


Also:
Tel Aviv will end up like Gaza -
the Iranians have 10s of 1000s of missiles -
the Jews will run out of interceptor missiles.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:08pm:
Greggy,
I'm a prophet -
I predicted the four horses of the apocalypse.


No, Bobby.

You predicted that Trump would prevent WWIII.

You said he was an "anti-war" President.

In the short time he's been in power, existing wars have intensified and new wars have started.

There's a very good chance that Trump will go down in history as the man rapist who started WWIII.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:08pm:
Greggy,
I'm a prophet -
I predicted the four horses of the apocalypse.


No, Bobby.

You predicted that Trump would prevent WWIII.

You said he was an "anti-war" President.

In the short time he's been in power, existing wars have intensified and new wars have started.

There's a very good chance that Trump will go down in history as the man rapist who started WWIII.



I thought Trump was a messiah who would lead us out of the wilderness.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:08pm:
Greggy,
I'm a prophet -
I predicted the four horses of the apocalypse.


No, Bobby.

You predicted that Trump would prevent WWIII.

You said he was an "anti-war" President.

In the short time he's been in power, existing wars have intensified and new wars have started.

There's a very good chance that Trump will go down in history as the man rapist who started WWIII.



I thought Trump was a messiah who would lead us out of the wilderness.


He's a rapist, leading us into the apocalypse.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
He's a rapist, leading us into the apocalypse.



It's the end:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIrvSJwwJUE

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
He's a rapist, leading us into the apocalypse.



It's the end:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIrvSJwwJUE


And you were warned.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
He's a rapist, leading us into the apocalypse.



It's the end:


And you were warned.




This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end

Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
I'll never look into your eyes again

Can you picture what will be?
So limitless and free
Desperately in need
Of some stranger's hand
In a desperate land

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Ai_Took_Our_Jobs on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:40pm
America first ?

Why is Trump putting the criminal Netanyahu above America.

Trump should leave Israel isolated, like he's leaving Ukraine isolated.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:43pm

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-14-25


12 min ago

Video captures moment missile strikes near key military facility in Tel Aviv

CNN’s Isaac Yee and Simone McCarthy

Video verified by CNN shows the dramatic moment a missile struck in the vicinity of the Kirya, an area of Tel Aviv that’s home to the military headquarters housing the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and the Ministry of Defense.

Multiple interceptor projectiles can be seen being launched from the ground into the sky in a video shot by a witness from a nearby building, as Iran launched retaliatory strikes on Israel overnight into Saturday. Moments later, a missile impacts the ground causing a large explosion with large plumes of smoke seen rising from the impact area, footage shows.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Jasin on Jun 14th, 2025 at 5:18pm

Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:40pm:
America first ?

Why is Trump putting the criminal Netanyahu above America.

Trump should leave Israel isolated, like he's leaving Ukraine isolated.

What's so criminal about defending your country, when the UN fails dismally to do so right from the start?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 6:47pm

The war widens -
the Iranians will now take on the Yanks too.



https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-june-14-2025/

2hr ago

Iranian official warns strikes against Israel will continue,
threatens to target US bases


By Reuters

Iran’s strikes against Israel will continue, with targets set to expand to include US bases in the region in the coming days, Iran’s Fars news agency reports, citing senior Iranian military officials.

“This confrontation will not end with last night’s limited actions and Iran’s strikes will continue, and this action will be very painful and regrettable for the aggressors,” Fars reports, citing senior military officials.

They were quoted as saying that the war would “spread in the coming days to all areas occupied by this (Israeli) regime and American bases in the region.”

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Ai_Took_Our_Jobs on Jun 14th, 2025 at 6:50pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 5:18pm:

Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 4:40pm:
America first ?

Why is Trump putting the criminal Netanyahu above America.

Trump should leave Israel isolated, like he's leaving Ukraine isolated.

What's so criminal about defending your country, when the UN fails dismally to do so right from the start?



What's your country?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14th, 2025 at 8:15pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 6:47pm:
The war widens -
the Iranians will now take on the Yanks too.


All thanks to this violent rapist and convicted criminal:


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 10:20pm
Damage in Israel from Iranian missile - a civilian area:


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-june-14-2025/

The damage seen in Rishon Lezion a day after a ballistic missile attack from Iran,

June 14, 2025 (Rishon Lezion Municipality drone team)



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 10:30pm
Looks like Israel wants to carpet bomb Tehran as a reprisal:



https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-14-25


2 hr 12 min ago

Israeli defense minister says ‘Tehran will burn’ if attacks continue

From CNN’s Dana Karni


A building in Tehran, Iran, stands damaged in the aftermath of Israeli strikes on Saturday.


Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz said Saturday that people in Tehran will “pay a heavy price” if Iran continues with its missile attacks, warning that the Iranian capital “will burn.”

“The Iranian dictator is turning Iran’s citizens into hostages and creating a reality in which they – especially the residents of Tehran – will pay a heavy price for the criminal attacks on Israeli civilians,” Katz said after holding a meeting on the situation with leaders of the Israeli military.

“If Khamenei continues firing missiles at the Israeli home front, Tehran will burn,” Katz added.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 14th, 2025 at 10:40pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 10:20pm:
Damage in Israel from Iranian missile - a civilian area:


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-june-14-2025/

The damage seen in Rishon Lezion a day after a ballistic missile attack from Iran,

June 14, 2025 (Rishon Lezion Municipality drone team)




Look what bibi the war criminal has done to Israel :(

Iran warned these psychopaths, but they wouldn't listen :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SF3K4kQgqw



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 10:45pm
That's bad sir Nail -
those people all lost their homes.


https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-14-25?t=1749904999284

Below are the latest developments:

Overnight strikes: Iranian forces launched several waves of missiles toward Israel overnight into Saturday. Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps said it targeted Israeli military centers and air bases in missile strikes on Friday. By Saturday morning, Tehran’s air defense system was active after Israel resumed strikes on the Iranian capital, state media reported. Israel targeted several provinces, including East Azerbaijan, Lorestan and Kermanshah, according to state-affiliated Fars news agency.

Israel’s warning: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addressed the Iranian people directly in a video late Friday, calling on civilians to “stand up and let your voices be heard.” Meanwhile, Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz said that people in Tehran will “pay a heavy price” if Iran continues with its missile attacks, warning the Iranian capital “will burn.”


Deaths and injuries: Both sides have suffered casualties since the recent flare-up of tensions. In Iran, at least 78 people were killed in the Israeli strikes, including senior military officials, Iran’s UN envoy Amir Saeid Iravani said Friday. More than 320 people were injured, most of them civilians, he added. Iran’s retaliatory strikes have killed at least three people and injured dozens, according to Israeli authorities.

Nuclear experts killed: Israel’s military has claimed it have killed nine scientists and experts involved in Iran’s nuclear program, raising the figure from a previous toll of six. Ali Bakhouei Karimi, Mansour Asgari, and Saeed Barji — experts in mechanics, physics and materials engineers respectively — were killed in Friday’s strikes, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said. Their deaths were confirmed by Iran’s semi-official Tasnim news agency.

Residential strike: Iranian state media claimed that 60 people, including 20 children, were killed after an Israeli strike hit a residential building in Tehran’s Shahrak-e Shahid Chamran residential compound. CNN has not been able to independently verify the report. Iranian television showed live images of workers removing debris from the site of a 14-story building.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:11pm
At this point Israel pretty much took out their entire military leadership and the Iranians are unlikely able to recover from this.

It's impressive in a morbid way.

I don't know if this conflict will widen given how devastatingly effective their strikes were.

But it does raise some other questions...

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:20pm

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/iranian-lawmaker-says-closure-of-key-strait-of-hormuz-under-consideration/

Iranian lawmaker says closure of key Strait of Hormuz under consideration

By Reuters

Today, 4:00 pm


The closure of the strategic Strait of Hormuz is being seriously reviewed by Iran,
IRINN reported, citing statements by Esmail Kosari,
a member of the parliament’s security commission.

The Strait of Hormuz, which lies between Oman and Iran,
is the world’s most important gateway for oil shipping.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 15th, 2025 at 12:28am


https://www.rt.com/news/619058-israel-strikes-iran-updates/

Tehran has reportedly announced that its new attacks will be
“20 times larger than previous ones”



Israeli air defenses engage missiles over Tel Aviv, on June 13, 2025. ©  AP Photo / Tomer Neuberg

Iran is preparing to launch some 2,000 missiles at Israel
in upcoming strikes as a response to West Jerusalem’s earlier attacks on Tehran’s nuclear and military sites, Al Arabiya reported on Saturday. The Iranian military has announced that future attacks will be “20 times larger than previous ones,” according to the outlet.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 15th, 2025 at 12:38am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 10:20pm:
Damage in Israel from Iranian missile - a civilian area:


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-june-14-2025/

The damage seen in Rishon Lezion a day after a ballistic missile attack from Iran,

June 14, 2025 (Rishon Lezion Municipality drone team)




With a 95% rate of intercepting missiles a few will get through.

They blew up some civilian cars and homes how is that going to degrade Israel military capability?

The IDF have complete air superiority over Iran they can fly anywhere and bomb whatever they like.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 15th, 2025 at 8:02am
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-14-25?t=1749938471253


1 hr 1 min ago


Iranian state media says latest barrage includes missiles and drones

From CNN’s Nechirvan Mando and Max Saltman

Iran has launched a new barrage of projectiles towards Israel, state media outlet IRNA reported late Saturday.

The Iranian outlet said that this latest volley includes both missiles and drones.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Daves2017 on Jun 15th, 2025 at 8:53am
Our cost of living crisis is going too get far, far worse with petrol sure to skyrocket.

The only winners out of this will be the 3% of society who control 80% of the wealth.

Interesting to know Russia will profit via it’s oil to continue to fund its war with Ukraine.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 15th, 2025 at 11:18am

It's difficult to fight Muzzies -
as they are told -

" would rather die as an old man sick in your bed or as a younger man but a martyr for a great cause -

and get 72 virgins to pump whenever you want? "



They choose the latter and believe it.



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 15th, 2025 at 11:30am

Latest news - Israel gets pounded:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/at-least-93-injured-by-missile-impacts-in-bat-yam-and-rehovot-says-magen-david-adom/


At least 93 injured by missile impacts in Bat Yam and Rehovot,

says Magen David Adom


The Magen David Adom ambulance service updates the number of those wounded
in the latest Iranian missile attack to at least 93,
in addition to the woman who was killed in the barrage.

MDA says that 65 people were wounded in the missile impact in Bat Yam,
with three seriously wounded and five moderately wounded.

In Rehovot, at least 28 people were wounded,
including two seriously and seven moderately, the ambulance service reports.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 15th, 2025 at 2:12pm
Israel getting hammered:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-june-15-2025/

8 dead, 200 injured in Iranian barrages; rescuers scramble to find some 35 missing
Four dead in direct impact on Bat Yam building
* Death toll in missile strike on northern city of Tamra rises to 4 *



https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-14-25


30 min ago

Iran says it used new maneuverable ballistic missile in latest strikes on Israel.

“The new ballistic missile is also equipped with an advanced navigation system
that allows it to hit targets precisely and counter electronic warfare,” Tasnim reported in early May.



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Daves2017 on Jun 15th, 2025 at 2:17pm
I find it amazing how petrol can rise so quickly but takes months to come down when effected by overseas issues.

Its looking extremely serious in the Middle East.

We are all going pay for this war.

Watch your super disappear!

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 15th, 2025 at 2:29pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 15th, 2025 at 2:17pm:
I find it amazing how petrol can rise so quickly but takes months to come down when effected by overseas issues.

Its looking extremely serious in the Middle East.

We are all going pay for this war.

Watch your super disappear!



Watch this:


Jun 15, 2025

Israeli fire crews responded to a reported missile fall among reports
of damage in coastal and northern districts of Israel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySCME7Z5DW0

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Carl D on Jun 15th, 2025 at 2:34pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 15th, 2025 at 2:17pm:
I find it amazing how petrol can rise so quickly but takes months to come down when effected by overseas issues.

Its looking extremely serious in the Middle East.

We are all going pay for this war.

Watch your super disappear!


Yes, I noticed the BP service station near our place was very busy at about 5pm yesterday when I stopped to get petrol.

It's not usually that busy late on a Saturday afternoon. Everyone's probably filling their tanks in anticipation of a price rise.

Prices normally go up on a Wednesday here in Perth then drop every day until the next Wednesday. It was about $1.69 a litre yesterday. I'm going out later this afternoon, I'll have a look to see what the price is today.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 15th, 2025 at 4:39pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 15th, 2025 at 2:17pm:
I find it amazing how petrol can rise so quickly but takes months to come down when effected by overseas issues.

Its looking extremely serious in the Middle East.

We are all going pay for this war.

Watch your super disappear!

More like, watch your super soar...

This was likely years in the planning. Israel has the covert support of the entire Middle East. Oil-producing ME Sunni states are ready to flood the market with their oil in the event of Iranian oil exports being impacted.

Saudi Arabia's House of Saud are praying to Allah that the Iranian exporting island in the Strait of Hormuz - Kharg Island - is put out of action by Israel... it is Iran's hub for exporting oil to the world, without which Iranian oil exports will be hobbled, which would be a windfall for Saudi Arabia.

However, Israel is avoiding disrupting any Iranian oil-producing infrastructure and is not targeting any of Iran's political leaders, so ME oil will continue to flow uninterrupted... Unless, of course, the Iranian regime sabotages its own infrastructure or blocks the Strait in a last-ditch effort to save itself.

If the Iranian regime falls and a Sunni and West-friendly regime takes its place, it'll be party time for world markets.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Daves2017 on Jun 15th, 2025 at 5:23pm
Personally I’d be quite happy for my super too return a average result.

This is a terrible war.

War is never the answer.

I have no wish too profit from blood $$

People are dying.

While the rich profits!


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15th, 2025 at 5:30pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 15th, 2025 at 5:23pm:
Personally I’d be quite happy for my super too return a average result.

This is a terrible war.

War is never the answer.

I have no wish too profit from blood $$

People are dying.

While the rich profits!


Welcome to global capitalism.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 15th, 2025 at 5:34pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 15th, 2025 at 5:23pm:
Personally I’d be quite happy for my super too return a average result.

This is a terrible war.

War is never the answer.

I have no wish too profit from blood $$

People are dying.

While the rich profits!

War is sometimes the only answer. Nothing will deter the mullahs from pursuing a nuclear weapons program... It's their only ticket to holding power.

Relative to most of the world, if you've got a good paid-off house, savings, and enough to live on, you're likely richer than 75% of the world's population.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 15th, 2025 at 7:31pm

latest news:

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-15-25


1 hr ago

Israel issues evacuation warning to Iranians
living near weapons production sites in Iran



From CNN’s Eugenia Yosef and Nadeen Ebrahim
The Israeli military has issued an “urgent” evacuation warning to Iranians living near weapons production facilities, a possible sign further strikes could be coming.

“For your safety, we ask you to please immediately evacuate the areas of these facilities and to not return until further notice,” Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Arabic spokesperson Avichay Adraee wrote in Farsi in a statement on X on Sunday. “Being in the vicinity of these areas endangers your life.”

He said the warning also extended to areas near “facilities that support weapons production in Iran.”

Israeli Minister of Defense Israel Katz confirmed the order, saying the IDF had begun issuing evacuation instructions to residents of Tehran living near to weapons manufacturing facilities.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 15th, 2025 at 7:41pm
Looks like Iran is losing their ability to hit with 100s of missiles in one night:


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-estimates-iran-fired-70-missiles-in-overnight-barrages/

IDF estimates Iran fired 70 missiles in overnight barrages

By Emanuel Fabian Follow
Today, 12:29 pm

Iran’s overnight attacks on Israel included a total of 70 ballistic missiles and dozens of drones,
according to the IDF’s latest estimates.

The missiles were fired in three waves at 11 p.m., 2 a.m. and 2:55 a.m.,
coinciding with the dozens of drones.


One projectile struck a home in the town of Tamra, killing four civilians; another struck Bat Yam, killing at least six civilians and wounding nearly 200; and another struck Rehovot, wounding another 40 people.

The military says that so far, Iran’s attacks are below the “reference scenario,” or what the IDF had anticipated in a war with Iran. The IDF had estimated far larger numbers of casualties and more significant damage.

Iran is still believed to possess thousands of ballistic missiles.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 15th, 2025 at 7:45pm
CNN contradicts the above - who is correct?

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-15-25?t=1749980622060

1 min ago

Death toll rises to 13 in Israel after Iranian strikes overnight
From CNN’s Tamar Michaelis and Nadeen Ebrahim
The death toll in Israel from overnight strikes by Iran has risen to 13 people, including three minors, the Israeli government said Sunday.

At least 380 people were injured, with nine in serious condition, the government said.

Over 200 rocket launches were reported overnight,
the government added, with 22 impact sites identified.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Carl D on Jun 15th, 2025 at 7:55pm
Unbelievable.

https://x.com/purplepingers/status/1933336359588278531


Quote:
If you’re ever wondering what the commentariat is most concerned about - don’t worry, they’ll tell you x


World War 3 might be about to break out and the main thing some people are concerned about is property auctions.
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Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 15th, 2025 at 7:59pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 15th, 2025 at 7:55pm:
Unbelievable.

https://x.com/purplepingers/status/1933336359588278531


Quote:
If you’re ever wondering what the commentariat is most concerned about - don’t worry, they’ll tell you x


World War 3 might be about to break out and the main thing some people are concerned about is property auctions.



Yes Carl,
that is strange,
the last thing people should worry about is property prices.

I suppose it's not a world war unless Asia is also involved -
I suppose that means a war over Taiwan? -
in which case we will be dragged into it too?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 15th, 2025 at 9:08pm

Bad damage in Israel.

A building destroyed by an Iranian missile, near Tel Aviv, June 15, 2025. (AP Photo/Ohad Zwigenberg)
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-june-15-2025/




Damaged residential homes in Bat Yam, Israel, on Sunday, following missile attack from Iran.
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-15-25?t=1749984010884

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 15th, 2025 at 10:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2025 at 7:41pm:
Looks like Iran is losing their ability to hit with 100s of missiles in one night:


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-estimates-iran-fired-70-missiles-in-overnight-barrages/

IDF estimates Iran fired 70 missiles in overnight barrages

By Emanuel Fabian Follow
Today, 12:29 pm

Iran’s overnight attacks on Israel included a total of 70 ballistic missiles and dozens of drones,
according to the IDF’s latest estimates.

The missiles were fired in three waves at 11 p.m., 2 a.m. and 2:55 a.m.,
coinciding with the dozens of drones.


One projectile struck a home in the town of Tamra, killing four civilians; another struck Bat Yam, killing at least six civilians and wounding nearly 200; and another struck Rehovot, wounding another 40 people.

The military says that so far, Iran’s attacks are below the “reference scenario,” or what the IDF had anticipated in a war with Iran. The IDF had estimated far larger numbers of casualties and more significant damage.

Iran is still believed to possess thousands of ballistic missiles.


Iran never had the ability to hit anything of military value their missiles accuracy is 200-500m which is why everything they hit has been civilian.

The 4 who died in Tamra were Israeli muslims.

They have done nothing to stop F15/16 and F35s flying over Iran at will blowing up anything they like

Iranian missile strike video

Quote:
It was lethal last time—remember, you killed a “Palestinian.”
https://x.com/CatShoshanna/status/1933379828717138403




Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 15th, 2025 at 10:26pm
Baron,
your link doesn't work.

here:
https://x.com/CatShoshanna/status/1933379828717138403

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 16th, 2025 at 7:39am

I don't understand how Israel can achieve their objective of
destroying Iran's nuclear ambitions?

They have Uranium hexafluoride enriched to 60%
which would be stored in  barrels 500 meters underground -
well out of reach of any conventional weapons.
They also have centrifuges at that same depth to
further enrich it to 90% weapons grade -
and then convert to a solid metal -
a step that would take only a few weeks.
I assume they have the rest of their atomic bombs already built and
just waiting for the U235 to be formed
into the right shape and loaded.

So the fact is that Iran is more likely to complete the process now
and the world is a more dangerous place.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Daves2017 on Jun 16th, 2025 at 8:44am
It’s a great question Bobby. I wish I new the answers.

I guess Israeli is aware of how close they are to a nuclear bomb and has decided to attack first?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Daves2017 on Jun 16th, 2025 at 9:44am
Just read this-
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was adamant that the intelligence was “absolutely clear” that Iran was on the verge of obtaining a nuclear weapon – and described himself as US President Donald Trump’s “junior partner” while defending his country’s preemptive strikes.

“These (are) people who chant Death to America, try to assassinate President Trump twice, killed 241 of your Marines in Beirut, killed and injured thousands of American soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq, try to bomb a restaurant in Washington, DC, chant ‘Death to America’. Burn the American flag,” Mr Netanyahu claimed in an earlier interview with Fox News’ Special Report with Bret Baier.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Daves2017 on Jun 16th, 2025 at 9:55am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 15th, 2025 at 5:34pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 15th, 2025 at 5:23pm:
Personally I’d be quite happy for my super too return a average result.

This is a terrible war.

War is never the answer.

I have no wish too profit from blood $$

People are dying.

While the rich profits!

War is sometimes the only answer. Nothing will deter the mullahs from pursuing a nuclear weapons program... It's their only ticket to holding power.

Relative to most of the world, if you've got a good paid-off house, savings, and enough to live on, you're likely richer than 75% of the world's population.


You might sadly be correct.

It seems as human beings we are always going to fight.



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 16th, 2025 at 1:35pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 8:44am:
It’s a great question Bobby. I wish I new the answers.

I guess Israeli is aware of how close they are to a nuclear bomb and has decided to attack first?



It's only pushed us closer to WW3.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 16th, 2025 at 1:39pm
It's only getting worse and Iran could have nuclear weapons in a few weeks
and might want to use them if Tehran is destroyed.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 16th, 2025 at 2:30pm
It looks like the USA is going to help Irsael -
the USA is joining in - I thought Trump said he was staying out of it?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-appears-to-be-deploying-large-number-of-aerial-refueling-tankers-across-the-atlantic/

US appears to be deploying large number of aerial refueling tankers across the Atlantic

Today, 6:51 am


The US Air Force appears to be in the midst of an unprecedented mass deployment of aerial refueling tankers across the Atlantic Ocean from bases in the US, amid the ongoing Israel-Iran war.

The number of KC-135 and KC-46 tankers continued to rise, with at least 30 moved east in the late hours of Sunday, according to flight tracking data.

Such tankers are required to refuel aircraft participating in strikes far away from their home country, such as the Israeli jets hitting Iran.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 16th, 2025 at 2:42pm

Trump seems to change his mind several times per day.   :-/




Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Aquarius on Jun 16th, 2025 at 3:12pm

Well his daughter Ivanka is a Jew ....

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 16th, 2025 at 3:46pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 2:42pm:
Trump seems to change his mind several times per day.   :-/


His cognitive decline is getting worse and worse before our eyes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP8VmvhZlBE



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 16th, 2025 at 4:03pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 3:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 2:42pm:
Trump seems to change his mind several times per day.   :-/


His cognitive decline is getting worse and worse before our eyes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP8VmvhZlBE




He's OK - I think ?    :-/


Kanga- why would you wanna kill a genius - why?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3QXuh2t5tKsv

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Jasin on Jun 16th, 2025 at 4:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 2:42pm:
Trump seems to change his mind several times per day.   :-/


It's called rolling with the punches.
He has plans and he has contingency plans.
Biden only had icecreams in his fridge.
;D

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 16th, 2025 at 5:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 2:30pm:
It looks like the USA is going to help Irsael -
the USA is joining in - I thought Trump said he was staying out of it?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-appears-to-be-deploying-large-number-of-aerial-refueling-tankers-across-the-atlantic/

US appears to be deploying large number of aerial refueling tankers across the Atlantic

Today, 6:51 am


The US Air Force appears to be in the midst of an unprecedented mass deployment of aerial refueling tankers across the Atlantic Ocean from bases in the US, amid the ongoing Israel-Iran war.

The number of KC-135 and KC-46 tankers continued to rise, with at least 30 moved east in the late hours of Sunday, according to flight tracking data.

Such tankers are required to refuel aircraft participating in strikes far away from their home country, such as the Israeli jets hitting Iran.




Quote:
Atlantic Trident 25: Finland to lead NATO air exercise and host RQ-4D Phoenix aircraft

The Finnish Air Force will host the multinational Atlantic Trident 25 air exercise and the deployment of NATO RQ-4D Phoenix remotely piloted aircraft during summer 2025.The exercise will be held from 16 to 27 June

“Finland is a part of NATO’s network of air bases, so we must be prepared to receive Allied reinforcements,” said Colonel Vesa Mäntylä, Exercise Director and Deputy Chief of Staff, Air Force Command Finland. “We are at the forefront within NATO when it comes to Agile Combat Employment, but close integration with Allies is still relatively new to us.”

All Finnish Air Force units will take part in the exercise, which will involve over 40 aircraft and approximately 1,000 personnel. Participating aircraft include Finnish F/A-18 Hornets, U.S. F-35A Lightning II, F-15E Strike Eagles, and KC-135 Stratotankers; British Typhoons; and French Rafale fighters, an E-3F AWACS, and an A400M transport aircraft.

https://defence-industry.eu/atlantic-trident-25-finland-to-lead-nato-air-exercise-and-host-rq-4d-phoenix-aircraft/


Nothing to see there

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Dnarever on Jun 16th, 2025 at 5:08pm

Quote:
WW3 could start in 2 days:


You mean the day before yesterday ????

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 16th, 2025 at 7:21pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 5:08pm:

Quote:
WW3 could start in 2 days:


You mean the day before yesterday ????



I predicted this on Jun 12th, 2025 at 8:31pm - see my opening post.

People in future should trust me more.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 16th, 2025 at 7:39pm
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/iranian-general-claims-pakistan-will-launch-nuclear-attack-on-israel-if-tehran-is-bombed-101750050862879.html


'Pakistan will nuke Israel if...': Iran general's big claim as conflict escalates



Jun 16, 2025 01:39 PM IST

Iranian commander Mohsen Rezaei said Pakistan backs Iran and urged Muslim unity, claiming Tehran holds hidden capabilities yet to be revealed.
Mohsen Rezaei, a senior Iranian military commander and member of the national security council, has claimed that Pakistan has assured Iran it would respond with nuclear weapons if Israel uses nuclear missiles.


He made the claim during a recent interview on Iranian state television. However, there has been no statement from any Pakistani official confirming or commenting on the possibility of using nuclear weapons against Israel.

“Pakistan has assured us that if Israel uses a nuclear bomb on Iran, they will attack Israel with a nuclear bomb,” said Rezaei.

Following a brief but tense missile exchange between Iran and Pakistan in early 2024, relations between the two countries appear to have improved.

‘Pakistan backs Iran, calls for Muslim unity’
Iranian commander Mohsen Rezaei said Pakistan has pledged to stand by Iran and called for unity in the Muslim world. He also claimed that Tehran holds undisclosed capabilities that remain hidden from the international community.

On June 14, speaking in the national assembly, Pakistan’s defence minister Khawaja Asif called on Muslim nations to launch a united initiative against Israel.

“Israel has targeted Iran, Yemen, and Palestine. If Muslim nations don’t unite now, each will face the same fate,” he warned.

He urged Muslim countries that have diplomatic relations with Israel to sever those ties immediately and called for the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) to convene and develop a joint strategy in response.




Story also here but it won't copy and paste:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/pakistan-will-attack-israel-with-nuclear-missile-top-iranian-official-can-shaheen-3-reach-tel-aviv/articleshow/121873943.cms

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 16th, 2025 at 7:54pm

INSANE footage from an Emirates flight over Iraq shows MASSIVE missile launches from Iran targeting Israel.

You can see the moment of activation of the ballistic missile booster.


https://x.com/HananyaNaftali/status/1934501746182623590

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 16th, 2025 at 8:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 4:03pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 3:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 2:42pm:
Trump seems to change his mind several times per day.   :-/


His cognitive decline is getting worse and worse before our eyes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP8VmvhZlBE




He's OK - I think ?    :-/


Kanga- why would you wanna kill a genius - why?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3QXuh2t5tKsv


Who said anything about killing anyone?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 16th, 2025 at 8:25pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 8:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 4:03pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 3:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 2:42pm:
Trump seems to change his mind several times per day.   :-/


His cognitive decline is getting worse and worse before our eyes.




He's OK - I think ?    :-/


Kanga- why would you wanna kill a genius - why?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3QXuh2t5tKsv


Who said anything about killing anyone?




Do you know that the man really likes you? He likes you. He really likes you.
But he's got something in mind for you.
Aren't you curious about that?...

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 16th, 2025 at 8:36pm
What?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Jasin on Jun 16th, 2025 at 8:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 7:54pm:
INSANE footage from an Emirates flight over Iraq shows MASSIVE missile launches from Iran targeting Israel.

You can see the moment of activation of the ballistic missile booster.


https://x.com/HananyaNaftali/status/1934501746182623590

Lucky they weren't NUKES

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Setanta on Jun 16th, 2025 at 8:58pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 7:39pm:
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/iranian-general-claims-pakistan-will-launch-nuclear-attack-on-israel-if-tehran-is-bombed-101750050862879.html


'Pakistan will nuke Israel if...': Iran general's big claim as conflict escalates



Jun 16, 2025 01:39 PM IST

Iranian commander Mohsen Rezaei said Pakistan backs Iran and urged Muslim unity, claiming Tehran holds hidden capabilities yet to be revealed.
Mohsen Rezaei, a senior Iranian military commander and member of the national security council, has claimed that Pakistan has assured Iran it would respond with nuclear weapons if Israel uses nuclear missiles.


He made the claim during a recent interview on Iranian state television. However, there has been no statement from any Pakistani official confirming or commenting on the possibility of using nuclear weapons against Israel.

“Pakistan has assured us that if Israel uses a nuclear bomb on Iran, they will attack Israel with a nuclear bomb,” said Rezaei.

Following a brief but tense missile exchange between Iran and Pakistan in early 2024, relations between the two countries appear to have improved.

‘Pakistan backs Iran, calls for Muslim unity’
Iranian commander Mohsen Rezaei said Pakistan has pledged to stand by Iran and called for unity in the Muslim world. He also claimed that Tehran holds undisclosed capabilities that remain hidden from the international community.

On June 14, speaking in the national assembly, Pakistan’s defence minister Khawaja Asif called on Muslim nations to launch a united initiative against Israel.

“Israel has targeted Iran, Yemen, and Palestine. If Muslim nations don’t unite now, each will face the same fate,” he warned.

He urged Muslim countries that have diplomatic relations with Israel to sever those ties immediately and called for the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) to convene and develop a joint strategy in response.




Story also here but it won't copy and paste:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/pakistan-will-attack-israel-with-nuclear-missile-top-iranian-official-can-shaheen-3-reach-tel-aviv/articleshow/121873943.cms


So he's admitting it was the right decision for Israel to take out their nuclear facilities.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 16th, 2025 at 9:07pm

Setanta wrote on Jun 16th, 2025 at 8:58pm:
So he's admitting it was the right decision for Israel to take out their nuclear facilities.


No it means that Iran has powerful Muslim friends
who can dissuade Israel from using their nukes.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 16th, 2025 at 9:56pm
This is why we don't get the info

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/ben-gvir-says-police-hunting-down-anyone-filming-missile-strike-locations-celebrating-iran/

Ben Gvir says police hunting down anyone filming missile strike locations, celebrating Iran.


Today, 2:21 pm
Share

Speaking from the scene of this morning’s Iranian missile strike in Petah Tikva, National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir pledges to crack down on both foreign media and “expressions of joy” at Iranian attacks.

Ben Gvir says that foreign networks put lives at risk by broadcasting the locations of missile impacts, allowing those who launch the projectiles to better triangulate their fire. He says he turned to the Shin Bet regarding the matter and ultimately decided that the police would also take part in efforts to crack down on the activity.

“Broadcasts that show exactly where the missiles land on the State of Israel are a danger to the security of the state and I expect that anyone who does this will be treated as someone who harms the security of the state,” he says.

Earlier, Ben Gvir’s office announced that police and Communications Ministry officials had gone into the field to track down the source of what was thought was an Al Jazeera broadcast in the Haifa area, where missile barrages have targeted sensitive facilities.

“The photographers and reporters on the spot were checked, and it was found that they were not Al Jazeera or Al Mayadeen reporters, but rather other foreign broadcasting channels, for which there is no blanket prohibition on filming – as long as they did not violate censorship regulations,” Ben Gvir’s office said.

Following the Hamas attack of October 7, 2023, the Knesset banned both Al Jazeera and the Hezbollah-affiliated Al Mayadeen networks on national security grounds.

Ben Gvir also announces “zero tolerance” for celebrations in support of the Iranian attacks, saying that “police have arrested quite a few people” and prison guards have cracked down among inmates expressing joy over the strikes.

“Zero patience for those who support Iran,” he says. “Supporting Iran is supporting terrorism, and those who support terrorism should be in custody.”

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 16th, 2025 at 11:14pm
Irans missiles have accuracy up to 500m from where they aim them.

If they know where they land from where they aimed them they can adjust trajectory to improve accuracy.

Fair call IMO.

When pics come out a couple of days later they might not know which missile they launched hit whatever was hit.
The people who fired it could also be dead.

War is a bit like Chess you expect to lose a few pieces at this stage Iran is losing their whole back row while Israel still has all their pieces on the board.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 16th, 2025 at 11:20pm

Col. Macgregor On The Israel – Iran Conflict As Iran Retaliates

China, Russia, Pakistan, North Korea all helping Iran.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlNx0WJbTUA

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 16th, 2025 at 11:38pm
Iranian missiles hit the Negev desert.
Scary video:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aZXXwsOpD6g

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 17th, 2025 at 6:27am
Israel gets hits hard:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/bazan-says-all-facilities-at-haifa-oil-refinery-shut-down-after-iran-strike/

Bazan says all facilities at Haifa oil refinery shut down after Iran strike.

The Bazan Group, says that as a result of the Iranian strike on its oil refinery in the Haifa Bay,
all its facilities have been shut down.

Three people were killed in an Iranian missile strike on the refinery overnight.

In a statement to the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange, Bazan says that “as a result of damage to the facilities,
the power plant was significantly damaged,
and therefore all of the refinery’s and subsidiary companies’ facilities were shut down.”

Bazan says it is working with the Israel Electric Company to resume electric supply to the facility.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 17th, 2025 at 2:05pm
Seems like things are escalating fast again, the US may in fact be entering the War if the scuttlebutt is to be believed.

Trump rushing back from the G7 (after having a sook that Putin isn't a member) to meet with his Security Council in DC, after saying people should evacuate Tehran on social media, and seeing a spike in Pizza orders around the Pentagon,



Something is happening, guess we'll find out soon enough.

If only Trump hadn't cancelled JCPOA...

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 17th, 2025 at 3:39pm

It looks like this war is nearly over.
Iran cannot fire anymore than 10 missiles now overnight.
As soon as the missile trucks drive out from the storage areas
they are being destroyed by the IDF.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-june-17-2025/

Fewer than 10 missiles fired at Israel overnight after Iran signals it wants ceasefire
No reports of impacts or injuries in three separate attacks overnight *


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/fewer-missiles-overnight-appear-to-come-with-shorter-warnings-no-pre-launch-alert/

Iran launched fewer than 10 missiles total in three separate attacks just after midnight,
at 3:30 a.m., and 4:30 a.m., but in each case,
the Home Front Command issued an alert to civilians just 2-3 minutes before the actual sirens sounded.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 17th, 2025 at 5:29pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17th, 2025 at 2:05pm:
Seems like things are escalating fast again, the US may in fact be entering the War if the scuttlebutt is to be believed.


Why would the US need to participate in this war?

Israel are handing out an absolute arse kicking with Iran it's one of the most decisive military arse kickings ever.

Israel has suffered no military losses they fly over and bomb Iran at will Iran can't even shoot down drones which are the easiest aircraft to shoot down.

The Supreme leader of Iran is hiding in a bunker wondering what happened to all his military chiefs he is too scared to attend their funerals.

First 2 days had over 100 missiles fired into Israel
3rd day around 50
4th day around 40
About 10 missiles in the last day.

Take away Irans missiles and they have nothing.
Thier missiles haven't hit any military targets only civilians.

Moqtada Al Sadr from Iraq said it's not his fight.
Jolani from Syria lets the IDF fly over Syria
Gulf Sunnis aren't going to help they consider twelver shia to be devaint heretics they have been fighting them for 1400 years since Battle of the Camel.

The bedwetting leftists and democRats are scared of Iran.

Those with TDS should stock up on Butthurt cream


;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 17th, 2025 at 9:13pm
Need?

I don't think they should, but Trump is so easily manipulated I won't be surprised if the "anti-war" president gets them dragged into a war he helped create the catalyst for starting.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Frank on Jun 17th, 2025 at 9:19pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17th, 2025 at 9:13pm:
Need?

I don't think they should, but Trump is so easily manipulated I won't be surprised if the "anti-war" president gets them dragged into a war he helped create the catalyst for starting.

You:

https://youtu.be/0Mig9ub_4i8?si=T5Y-tY1qCDZgccUA

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 17th, 2025 at 9:43pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17th, 2025 at 9:13pm:
Need?

I don't think they should, but Trump is so easily manipulated I won't be surprised if the "anti-war" president gets them dragged into a war he helped create the catalyst for starting.



Since you're so stupid look at the basics with this war

It started on Oct 7th when Irans proxies Hamas and Hezbollah attacked Israel before Trump was elected when your Dementia patient who should have been in aged care was POTUS.

Iran attacked Israel first with over 300 ballistic missiles when Hamas leader Haniyeh died in Tehran when a bomb under his bed went off.

Israels war objectives with Iran
1. Blow up nuclear capability so they can't make a bomb, something the UN and IAEA couldn't stop for the last couple of decades.
2. Dismantle ballistic missile capability so they can't fire missiles at Israel.

Israel has no intention of putting troops into Iran they don't seek to expand territiory.

They have destroyed Irans air defences bombed nuclear plants killed dozens of nuclear scientists.

They have destroyed most of Irans ballistic missile capabilty a bit of cleaning up left

Since they have achieved 1. and on the way to achieving 2. where does a possible role for the US fit in here what could they do that isn't  already being done?



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 18th, 2025 at 9:11am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 17th, 2025 at 9:43pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17th, 2025 at 9:13pm:
Need?

I don't think they should, but Trump is so easily manipulated I won't be surprised if the "anti-war" president gets them dragged into a war he helped create the catalyst for starting.



Since you're so stupid look at the basics with this war


It's ok, I get that TDS prevents many people from accepting Trump's fingerprints all over this with his vendetta against Obama, resulting in the cancellation of JCPOA without being replaced by anything else, leading to the eventual resumption of Iran's Uranium enrichment and nuclear weapons research.

Dismiss it all you like, but it's what happened.  Not even MAGA can change the facts.

They, like you, can ignore them sure, that's a requirement of MAGA, but you can't change them.

It is what it is.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 18th, 2025 at 9:50am
Only a minor attack overnight on Israel - Iran has run out of steam -
I think the war is nearly over.


https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-attacks-06-17-25-intl-hnk/index.html

1 hr ago
Israel detects more missiles from Iran
From CNN’s Lauren Izso and Michael Rios
Israel says it has detected more missiles launched from Iran less than an hour after it was targeted by a previous barrage.

Sirens are going off in central Israel.

It’s currently around 1:33 a.m. local time in Israel.

Israel’s air defense attempted to intercept projectiles over Tel Aviv. Explosions and sirens were heard throughout the city.


1 hr 9 min ago
Iran launches about 10 ballistic missiles toward Israel, military official says
From CNN’s Jeremy Diamond, Lauren Izso and Michael Rios
Iran launched approximately 10 ballistic missiles toward Israel in its latest barrage, a military official told CNN, adding that most of them were intercepted.

The Israel Fire and Rescue Service said it received reports of impacts across the country.

Fire crews are responding to reports of a direct hit on a residential building in the central district as well as fallen shrapnel on another residential building in the north.

Several fires were also reported in open areas.

No casualties have been identified after emergency teams searched several affected locations, Israel’s emergency service Magen David Adom said.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 18th, 2025 at 10:13am
Trump wants to bomb Fordo - the nuclear site hidden deep inside a mountain -

but it won't help -
I bet Iran has already removed their 60% enriched Uranium -
and hidden it somewhere -
and it's too deep even for the largest bombs.



https://www.timesofisrael.com/irans-nuclear-program-has-been-hit-hard-but-wont-be-knocked-out-if-fordo-remains/

The only munition that can reach Fordo’s underground facility is the American 30,000-pound GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator. It is believed to be able to penetrate about 200 feet (61 meters) below the surface before exploding, and the bombs can be dropped one after another, effectively drilling deeper and deeper with each successive blast.

Israel doesn’t have the option of buying it from Washington, as the only plane that can carry it is the US B-2 bomber.

So if Fordo is to be attacked from the air, it will take a decision from US President Donald Trump to jump into the fray.

The president seems undecided, but increasingly open to the possibility.


Trump was slated to convene his national security team on Tuesday to make a decision on US involvement, Axios reported, citing three US officials.

He is “seriously considering” launching a US strike, according to the outlet.

If Vice President J.D. Vance and the isolationist wing of his coalition win the day, Israel still has options.

Israel could theoretically use a small nuclear weapon to destroy Fordo.
But the first battlefield use of a nuclear bomb since 1945 would undermine
Israel’s legitimacy in its campaign to prevent Iran from attaining such a weapon.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 18th, 2025 at 10:25am
I'm wondering if Trump is going to enter the war legally or unconstitutionally...

It seems a foregone conclusion that the US is going to enter it now, given the movements of their assets.

Time will tell.

I hope all those predicting this are wrong.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 18th, 2025 at 10:30am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 18th, 2025 at 10:25am:
I'm wondering if Trump is going to enter the war legally or unconstitutionally...

It seems a foregone conclusion that the US is going to enter it now, given the movements of their assets.

Time will tell.

I hope all those predicting this are wrong.


He'll do it illegally.

Why start obeying the law now, after all these years?


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by athos on Jun 18th, 2025 at 10:40am
https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1934999692783333693

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 18th, 2025 at 10:48am

athos wrote on Jun 18th, 2025 at 10:40am:
https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1934999692783333693





Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Daves2017 on Jun 18th, 2025 at 10:49am
Britain has started deploying RAF aircraft to the region.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 18th, 2025 at 10:57am

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-06-18-25-intl-hnk

29 min ago

Iranian news outlet claims Iran has launched Fattah missiles toward Israel

From CNN’s Michael Rios
Iran’s semi-official Mehr News Agency claims Iran has launched Fattah missiles toward Israel.

CNN cannot verify the claim.

What is that missile? Last year, Iranian media reported that Tehran used a new missile, the Fattah-1, in its attacks on Israel at the time. Tehran describes the Fattah-1 as a “hypersonic” missile – meaning it travels at Mach 5, or five times the speed of sound (about 3,800 miles per hour, 6,100 kilometers per hour).

But analysts point out that almost all ballistic missiles reach hypersonic speed during their flights, especially as they dive towards their targets.

Fabian Hinz, a research fellow at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, who wrote on the subject, said the Fattah-1 appears to have a warhead on a “maneuverable reentry vehicle,” which enables it to make adjustments to avoid missile defenses during a short portion of its dive to its target.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 18th, 2025 at 11:08am
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-06-18-25-intl-hnk


7 min ago

Iranian supreme leader warns: "The battle begins"

From CNN’s Michael Rios and Lucas Lilieholm

Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said in a post on X: “In the name of the noble Haidar, the battle begins.”

Haidar is a name often used for Ali, who Shia Muslims consider the first Imam and successor to the prophet Mohammed.

Iran’s leader also posted on his English-language X account

“We must give a strong response to the terrorist Zionist regime.
We will show the Zionists no mercy,” Khamenei.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 18th, 2025 at 11:11am
Surpreme leader mentions Ali?

Ali lost he was killed.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 18th, 2025 at 7:38pm

Jun 18, 2025 

The US president is said to be considering joining Israel's attacks on Iranian nuclear facilities, CBS News reported, citing US officials. Among the potential targets is the underground Fordow nuclear site, CBS cited sources as saying
Earlier, the Israeli envoy to the US said that only Pentagon has bombs capable of penetrating Iran's deeply buried Fordow nuclear facility.
Several American officials confirmed that Israel would need the US to deploy B-2 stealth bombers armed with the Massive Ordnance Penetrator to strike the site.
Meanwhile, US warplanes were spotted flying out of a military base in Eastern England on June 17, according to a series of photographs cited by the BBC. The fighter movements follow the arrival in Europe of more than two-dozen US Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A refuelling tankers in recent days. The deployments include F-16, F-22, and F-35 aircraft, as per an unnamed US official cited by The War Zone
As of June 17, Planet Labs satellite imagery reviewed by TWZ revealed that four B-52s and six F-15Es, plus other aircraft, were still at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdgds3yyJQ8

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 18th, 2025 at 7:49pm

Where is the evidence that Iran doesn't already have nukes?

No one knows for sure -
they have had 30 years to build a nuke -
plenty of time.
Even their old centrifuges were cable of enriching Uranium to 90% U235 -
given enough time – and they were doing it 24 hours a day
for over 20 years.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Jasin on Jun 18th, 2025 at 7:53pm
For those 30 years... the UN just conceded last week that Iran had been lying to them all along while thwarting in depth investigations.

The UN should thank Israel for cleaning out their mess.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 18th, 2025 at 9:55pm

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-06-18-25-intl-hnk?t=1750247429097


Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said
the Iranian nation “is not one to surrender,”


a day after US President Donald Trump called on the country to surrender unconditionally.

“Let the Americans know that the Iranian nation is not one to surrender, and any military intervention on their part will undoubtedly result in irreparable damage,” Khamenei said Wednesday in a national address – only his second public comments since Israel launched its attack against Iran last week.

“Those who are wise and familiar with Iran, its people, and its history never speak to this nation in the language of threats,” he warned.

After Trump on Tuesday said Khamenei was “an easy target” for the US and Israel, he then ramped up his demands on Truth Social: “UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!”

In his address, Khamenei said “the Americans should know that any military intervention by the United States will undoubtedly result in irreparable damage.”

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 19th, 2025 at 3:11pm
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/beershebas-soroka-hospital-suffers-direct-hit-in-missile-attack/



Beersheba’s Soroka Hospital suffers direct hit in missile attack

By Emanuel Fabian Follow
Today, 7:39 am


A ballistic missile fired from Iran directly struck Soroka Hospital in Beersheba.

The extent of the damage is not yet clear.

More from today’s Liveblog:
Reports of injuries, extensive damage in multiple impact sites following missile attack
Reports of impacts in central, southern Israel; salvo larger than recent ones
Sirens sound across Israel amid latest Iranian ballistic missile attack

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 19th, 2025 at 3:12pm
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-06-19-25-intl-hnk?t=1750309897207


12 min ago


Israel responding to reports of fallen projectiles after Iranian missile strikes

From CNN’s Lex Harvey and Eugenia Yosef

Israeli search and rescue teams are operating in several locations across the country after reports of fallen projectiles following Iran’s latest barrage of missiles, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said in a statement.

Video from Reuters showed a multi-story building in Tel Aviv that had been damaged. Debris was shown lying on the road outside and responders had cordoned off part of the area.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Gnads on Jun 19th, 2025 at 6:34pm

athos wrote on Jun 18th, 2025 at 10:40am:
https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1934999692783333693


CCP scumbag shill

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Gnads on Jun 19th, 2025 at 6:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18th, 2025 at 10:48am:

athos wrote on Jun 18th, 2025 at 10:40am:
https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1934999692783333693







Why would you repost that shyte Booby?

You're a complete empty headed numpty.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Gnads on Jun 19th, 2025 at 6:40pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 3:11pm:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/beershebas-soroka-hospital-suffers-direct-hit-in-missile-attack/



Beersheba’s Soroka Hospital suffers direct hit in missile attack

By Emanuel Fabian Follow
Today, 7:39 am


A ballistic missile fired from Iran directly struck Soroka Hospital in Beersheba.

The extent of the damage is not yet clear.

More from today’s Liveblog:
Reports of injuries, extensive damage in multiple impact sites following missile attack
Reports of impacts in central, southern Israel; salvo larger than recent ones
Sirens sound across Israel amid latest Iranian ballistic missile attack



Don't tell me - Muslim fanatics targeting innocent women & children, in hospitals, schools .... anywhere??????  ::) ::) ::) ::)

Israel needs to ramp up everything they are doing & bring the Iranian Govt, it's leaders & military to their knees.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Jasin on Jun 19th, 2025 at 6:43pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 18th, 2025 at 10:49am:
Britain has started deploying RAF aircraft to the region.

They're waking up.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 19th, 2025 at 9:00pm
The IAEA has now lost 902 pounds of enriched Uranium 235 -
enough to produce 10 atomic bombs:

jump to 4:00


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WmseHOvesE


Jun 19, 2025 

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has made a shocking revelation amid the ongoing Iran-Israel conflict. The United Nations' nuclear watchdog chief has claimed that it can no longer verify the location of Iran's near-weapons-grade uranium — enough for 10 bombs — due to Israel’s ongoing strikes. IAEA director general Rafael Grossi told Bloomberg that Israel’s ongoing military strikes are preventing inspectors from doing their work.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 19th, 2025 at 9:28pm
It's all on - the gloves are off:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/irans-options-against-foreign-aggression-include-closing-strait-of-hormuz-mehr-news-reports/

June 19, 2025

Iran’s options against foreign aggression include closing Strait of Hormuz,
Mehr news reports


By Reuters


Closing down the Strait of Hormuz, through which 20% of daily global oil consumption passes, is one of the options Iran could take to respond against its enemies, a member of the Iranian Parliament National Security Committee presidium Behnam Saeedi tells the semi-official Mehr news agency.

Iran has in the past threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz to traffic in retaliation for Western pressure, and shipping sources say that commercial ships are avoiding Iran’s waters around the strait.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 19th, 2025 at 9:34pm
Has Israel killed Russians?

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-trade-fresh-air-attacks-trump-weighs-us-involvement-2025-06-19/

Israel attacks Iran's only operating nuclear power plant


By Alexander Cornwell, Parisa Hafezi, Jana Choukeir and Ahmed Elimam
June 19, 20259:14 PM GMT+10Updated 7 mins ago



Summary

Bushehr is located close to Gulf Arab neighbours

Iran's only functioning nuclear power plant houses Russian experts

TEL AVIV/JERUSALEM/DUBAI, June 19 (Reuters) - Israel said on Thursday it had struck Iran's only functioning nuclear power plant on the Gulf coast, potentially a major escalation in its air war against Iran.
Israel has struck a number of Iranian nuclear targets since launching its attacks last week. But a strike on the Bushehr plant, which is located near Iran's Arab Gulf neighbours and employs technicians from Russia, would be widely be seen as a big step.
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An Israeli military spokesperson said on Thursday the military had struck nuclear sites in Bushehr, Isfahan, and Natanz, and continued to target additional facilities.
Bushehr is Iran's only operating nuclear power plant. It uses Russian fuel that Russia then takes back when it is spent to reduce proliferation risk.


Update:

TEL AVIV/JERUSALEM/DUBAI, June 19 (Reuters) - An Israeli military official said on Thursday that
"it was a mistake" for a military spokesperson to have said earlier in the day that Israel had struck the Bushehr nuclear site in Iran.
The official would only confirm that Israel had hit the Natanz, Isfahan and Arak nuclear sites in Iran.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 20th, 2025 at 5:49pm
Col. Douglas Macgregor:

Israel in ‘VERY SERIOUS TROUBLE’ in War with Iran.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pO0-49_oCk


All eyes are on the U.S. Military, as the Pentagon moves more assets to the Middle East, amid warnings from Iran that direct strikes from the U.S. will be met with “irreparable damage.”

But according to President Trump, “WE now have complete and total control of the skies over Iran.” And according to U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, “WE are carrying out military strikes” on Iran.

Ret. U.S. Army Col. Douglas Macgregor noted that while the U.S. is already at war with Iran, the question of direct strikes is not about “if,” but about “when” at this point.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by athos on Jun 20th, 2025 at 5:54pm
The "chosen" ones are fleeing the “promised land”
and go home all over the world!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcW3eOaivLA

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 20th, 2025 at 5:58pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 20th, 2025 at 5:49pm:
Col. Douglas Macgregor:

Israel in ‘VERY SERIOUS TROUBLE’ in War with Iran.


Iran is the one in serious trouble.

Israel has had no military losses Iranian forces loyal to regime are getting smashed everyday and there is nothing they can do to stop it.

Mossad would have a plan for ending Irans nuclear business without help from the US.


When you look at this then listen to what former IDF spokesman Jon Conricus said to Mario Nawal last week this data was a trojan horse released by Israel so they could track where it went and who looked at it. https://www.newsweek.com/iran-israel-nuclear-secrets-intelligence-2082619

Look at the pagers with Hezbollah it's safe to say Mossad are on another level compared to anyone else.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 21st, 2025 at 6:18am

Jun 21, 2025

Video looks at the problem of Iran's Fordo nuclear facility.
Deeply buried, there are not many options to take it out.
Yet this video takes a look at various approaches.
Israeli bombs and troop assault, nuclear option, and, of course,
the US massive GBU-57 bomb.
We uncover why is its use not such a sure thing and
why its real penetration is not as much as oftentimes quoted.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEbq0chC6yI

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 21st, 2025 at 6:20am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 20th, 2025 at 5:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 20th, 2025 at 5:49pm:
Col. Douglas Macgregor:

Israel in ‘VERY SERIOUS TROUBLE’ in War with Iran.


Iran is the one in serious trouble.

Israel has had no military losses Iranian forces loyal to regime are getting smashed everyday and there is nothing they can do to stop it.

Mossad would have a plan for ending Irans nuclear business without help from the US.


When you look at this then listen to what former IDF spokesman Jon Conricus said to Mario Nawal last week this data was a trojan horse released by Israel so they could track where it went and who looked at it. https://www.newsweek.com/iran-israel-nuclear-secrets-intelligence-2082619

Look at the pagers with Hezbollah it's safe to say Mossad are on another level compared to anyone else.



Iran's air force is pathetic and it's SAM sites are all destroyed -
Israel is flying at will anywhere they want and destroying 100s of targets per day.
I can't believe how incompetent the Iranians are.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 21st, 2025 at 7:26am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 21st, 2025 at 6:20am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 20th, 2025 at 5:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 20th, 2025 at 5:49pm:
Col. Douglas Macgregor:

Israel in ‘VERY SERIOUS TROUBLE’ in War with Iran.


Iran is the one in serious trouble.

Israel has had no military losses Iranian forces loyal to regime are getting smashed everyday and there is nothing they can do to stop it.

Mossad would have a plan for ending Irans nuclear business without help from the US.


When you look at this then listen to what former IDF spokesman Jon Conricus said to Mario Nawal last week this data was a trojan horse released by Israel so they could track where it went and who looked at it. https://www.newsweek.com/iran-israel-nuclear-secrets-intelligence-2082619

Look at the pagers with Hezbollah it's safe to say Mossad are on another level compared to anyone else.



Iran's air force is pathetic and it's SAM sites are all destroyed -
Israel is flying at will anywhere they want and destroying 100s of targets per day.
I can't believe how incompetent the Iranians are.


If only they'd continue to comply with JCPOA and the IAEA inspections as they were under Obama until Trump withdrew and reimposed sanctions on them, resulting in a hardline political change in Iran and them walking away from the deal after being betrayed by Trump, we wouldn't have to worry about any of this.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 21st, 2025 at 8:04am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 21st, 2025 at 7:26am:
If only they'd continue to comply with JCPOA and the IAEA inspections as they were under Obama until Trump withdrew and reimposed sanctions on them, resulting in a hardline political change in Iran and them walking away from the deal after being betrayed by Trump, we wouldn't have to worry about any of this.



Iran enriched Uranium to 60% for
which there is no known civilian purpose.
At 90% it is weapons grade.
Only 3.7% is required for a civilian nuclear reactor power station.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 21st, 2025 at 8:54am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 21st, 2025 at 8:04am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 21st, 2025 at 7:26am:
If only they'd continue to comply with JCPOA and the IAEA inspections as they were under Obama until Trump withdrew and reimposed sanctions on them, resulting in a hardline political change in Iran and them walking away from the deal after being betrayed by Trump, we wouldn't have to worry about any of this.



Iran enriched Uranium to 60% for
which there is no known civilian purpose.
At 90% it is weapons grade.
Only 3.7% is required for a civilian nuclear reactor power station.


Correct, and while the JCPOA was still in effect, Iran was sticking to low-level enrichment, confirmed repeatedly by IAEA inspections. The escalation only came after Trump tore up the deal, slammed sanctions back on, and spectacularly failed to negotiate anything better.

No one serious is denying Iran increased enrichment. The specifics of how close they are to a weapon are debated, sure, but the enrichment itself isn't. It's openly acknowledged, even by the IAEA. This isn't some fringe theory.

And the crux? It all comes back to Trump. His actions directly triggered Iran's exit from compliance and the restart of their weapons-related activities.

Absolute fact.

MAGA cultists don't like that reality, so they're desperately flinging blame at Obama, Biden, whoever. But this mess? Squarely on Trump.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 21st, 2025 at 12:01pm

Jun 21, 2025

At a heated UN Security Council session, Israeli Ambassador Danny Danon accused Iran of sponsoring global terrorism, building long-range ballistic missiles, and plotting Israel’s destruction. Quoting Iran's Supreme Leader, Danon declared: “How dare you ask for help?” In response, Iranian Ambassador Amir Saeid Iravani accused Israel of committing atrocities and deliberately targeting civilians in Iran. Both sides invoked international law, but the chamber descended into diplomatic warfare.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex7K6C26lw0

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Leroy on Jun 21st, 2025 at 12:39pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 21st, 2025 at 8:54am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 21st, 2025 at 8:04am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 21st, 2025 at 7:26am:
If only they'd continue to comply with JCPOA and the IAEA inspections as they were under Obama until Trump withdrew and reimposed sanctions on them, resulting in a hardline political change in Iran and them walking away from the deal after being betrayed by Trump, we wouldn't have to worry about any of this.



Iran enriched Uranium to 60% for
which there is no known civilian purpose.
At 90% it is weapons grade.
Only 3.7% is required for a civilian nuclear reactor power station.


Correct, and while the JCPOA was still in effect, Iran was sticking to low-level enrichment, confirmed repeatedly by IAEA inspections. The escalation only came after Trump tore up the deal, slammed sanctions back on, and spectacularly failed to negotiate anything better.

No one serious is denying Iran increased enrichment. The specifics of how close they are to a weapon are debated, sure, but the enrichment itself isn't. It's openly acknowledged, even by the IAEA. This isn't some fringe theory.

And the crux? It all comes back to Trump. His actions directly triggered Iran's exit from compliance and the restart of their weapons-related activities.

Absolute fact.

MAGA cultists don't like that reality, so they're desperately flinging blame at Obama, Biden, whoever. But this mess? Squarely on Trump.


No that's just TDS in full effect. Are you that stupid to think that Iran was enriching uranium because of Trump.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 21st, 2025 at 1:36pm

Leroy wrote on Jun 21st, 2025 at 12:39pm:
No that's just TDS in full effect.
Are you that stupid to think that Iran was enriching uranium because of Trump.



We have to assume that Iran already has a nuclear weapon.

The only way the Yanks and others were able to miniaturize them was from extensive testing -
100s of nuclear tests - which Iran hasn't done.
Iran could still have a large, heavy, crude device -
something that would fit in a boat and could be sailed into a port on a remote control boat/ship
or maybe in a truck steered by remote control.
This could end badly.

Another way they could miniaturize them is using information from espionage.   :-/


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Jasin on Jun 21st, 2025 at 1:49pm
Iran has been hostile due to the Leftism in American Politics for so long. As have many nations, who will only accept the British system - not the mainland European style that America adopted after its Independence from the British way.
Only Trump (thanks to Assange) with his appearance on the scene made nations like Iran, Lebanon, North Korea, etc - pull their heads in and listen.
Alas, when the Democrats got back in with their Leftism, everything went back to hostilities and more so!
Now with Trump back in with the Right, things now have to be completed to the end for the damage has been done and there is no turning back. The World is at War thanks to the Left and it won't end until another facet of Leftism is destroyed.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by wombatwoody on Jun 21st, 2025 at 10:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 20th, 2025 at 5:49pm:
Col. Douglas Macgregor:

Israel in ‘VERY SERIOUS TROUBLE’ in War with Iran.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pO0-49_oCk


All eyes are on the U.S. Military, as the Pentagon moves more assets to the Middle East, amid warnings from Iran that direct strikes from the U.S. will be met with “irreparable damage.”

But according to President Trump, “WE now have complete and total control of the skies over Iran.” And according to U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, “WE are carrying out military strikes” on Iran.

Ret. U.S. Army Col. Douglas Macgregor noted that while the U.S. is already at war with Iran, the question of direct strikes is not about “if,” but about “when” at this point.



Note where the colonel talks about the three branches of govt. Congress and the senate, the corporate and military/industrial complex and the media and how they all kowtow to the one view.

Much the same as what we saw during the pandemic. Yet anyone who highlighted that was called a conspiracy theorist.

Like Sen. John Kennedy said, Better find some new conspiracies fellas, as the old ones have all turned out to be true.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 21st, 2025 at 10:07pm

What does this guy say?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/77ayWbOeHX8

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Dnarever on Jun 21st, 2025 at 11:17pm

Quote:
WW3 could start in 2 days:



"Coulda, woulda, shoulda"

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 21st, 2025 at 11:28pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 21st, 2025 at 11:17pm:

Quote:
WW3 could start in 2 days:



"Coulda, woulda, shoulda"



It has already started.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 12:21am
Trump's plan collapses as US B-2 bombers face critical flaw | Robert Fox




Jun 21, 2025

“You would need serial attacks, it’s very concerning… it’s never been used in hostility before.”

US Air Force B-2 stealth bombers have reportedly been stationed on Diego Garcia
but may not even work as Trump plans to attack Iran, says Robert Fox.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXu6KiS1pYk

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 12:39am
It's common for B2s to cross Pacific enroute to Diego Garcia happens every month.

The refuel off the Nth QLD coast.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 12:42am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 12:39am:
It's common for B2s to cross Pacific enroute to Diego Garcia happens every month.

The refuel off the Nth QLD coast.



That means we're involved in the Iran operation.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 12:47am

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/flight-data-shows-two-b-2-bombers-taking-off-from-us-flying-toward-guam/


Flight data shows six B-2 bombers taking off from US, flying toward Guam


Today, 1:11 pm

Six B-2 bombers have taken off from Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri towards the US military base on the island of Guam, according to flight tracking data.

The bombers have received media attention in recent days due to their unique ability to carry the heaviest US bomb, the Massive Ordnance Penetrator, which experts say is needed to destroy Iran’s underground Fordo nuclear facility.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 12:57am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 12:42am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 12:39am:
It's common for B2s to cross Pacific enroute to Diego Garcia happens every month.

The refuel off the Nth QLD coast.



That means we're involved in the Iran operation.


6 B2s left Whiteman base a month ago for DG they refuelled off Nth Qld.

They base them at Whiteman so people don't know where they're going.

Missions can be flown from Whiteman to anywhere in the world the US prefers this for stealth with B2.

Satellite images from overseas airbases let people know when they take off how many are there which takes away some stealth and surprise aspects with missions.

How did your post on all the Tankers flying around on the 16th June work out? Were they going to a NATO exercise?
Any evidence of those tankers doing anything else a week ago?


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 9:30am
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-06-21-25-intl-hnk?t=1750548499707


7 min ago

At least 430 civilians killed in Iran, says deputy health minister
From CNN's Fred Pleitgen in Tehran
The civilian death toll from Israel’s attacks on Iran has climbed to at least 430, Iran’s Deputy Health Minister Ali Jafarian told a press briefing in Tehran Saturday.

At least 3,056 Iranians have been injured since the conflict began, Iran’s state broadcaster IRIB reported, citing Iran’s health ministry earlier on Saturday.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 9:59am

Trump - the rapist - has started bombing Iran.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:00am

WOW

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-06-21-25-intl-hnk#cmc6vpmny000k3b6niyffgdws

2 min ago

Trump announces air strikes on three nuclear sites in Iran

From CNN’s Alejandra Jaramillo

President Donald Trump announced Saturday that the US has completed a “very successful attack” on nuclear sites in Iran including Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan.

The president said all planes are now outside of Iran air space.

“We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan. All planes are now outside of Iran air space. A full payload of BOMBS was dropped on the primary site, Fordow. All planes are safely on their way home. Congratulations to our great American Warriors. There is not another military in the World that could have done this. NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE!Thank you for your attention to this matter,” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:00am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:00am:
WOW

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-06-21-25-intl-hnk#cmc6vpmny000k3b6niyffgdws

2 min ago

Trump announces air strikes on three nuclear sites in Iran

From CNN’s Alejandra Jaramillo

President Donald Trump announced Saturday that the US has completed a “very successful attack” on nuclear sites in Iran including Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan.

The president said all planes are now outside of Iran air space.

“We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan. All planes are now outside of Iran air space. A full payload of BOMBS was dropped on the primary site, Fordow. All planes are safely on their way home. Congratulations to our great American Warriors. There is not another military in the World that could have done this. NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE!Thank you for your attention to this matter,” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post.


The "anti-war" President, Bobby.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Jasin on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:05am
Well at least he offers Peace first. Unlike the Democrats.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:08am

Jasin wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:05am:
Well at least he offers Peace first. Unlike the Democrats.



Trump,
" NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE!
"

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:09am

In his victory speech in November, Trump (rapist and convicted felon) said: “They said, ‘He will start a war’. I’m not going to start a war, I’m going to stop wars.”


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:10am

Chodes like Greggy said Trump would chicken out -  TACO.

Waiting for an apology from Greggy and his gay mates.   ::)

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:12am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:10am:
Chodes like Greggy said Trump would chicken out -  TACO.

Waiting for an apology from Greggy and his gay mates.   ::)


I never said any such thing.

Everyone knew that Trump (rapist and convicted felon) was going to start new wars.

You were all warned.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:18am

Now - Iran did promise to attack American bases in the Middle East -
and the Houthis promised to attack ships in the Red Sea -
if the US entered the war.

Will the war now escalate?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:19am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:18am:
Now - Iran did promise to attack American bases in the Middle East -
and the Houthis promised to attack ships in the Red Sea -
if the US entered the war.

Will the war now escalate?


Unlikely, Bobby.

These things usually have a way of working themselves out    ::)

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:21am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:19am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:18am:
Now - Iran did promise to attack American bases in the Middle East -
and the Houthis promised to attack ships in the Red Sea -
if the US entered the war.

Will the war now escalate?


Unlikely, Bobby.

These things usually have a way of working themselves out    ::)



Yep - looks like Trump will get a Nobel Peace Prize.    :)

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:23am
This might cause some Butthurt with the Jew hating leftists who support the Islamic regime.

When something absolutely has to be blown up - Call the Americans.


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Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:25am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:19am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:18am:
Now - Iran did promise to attack American bases in the Middle East -
and the Houthis promised to attack ships in the Red Sea -
if the US entered the war.

Will the war now escalate?


Unlikely, Bobby.

These things usually have a way of working themselves out    ::)



Yep - looks like Trump will get a Nobel Peace Prize.    :)


And then he'll stop raping women and committing fraud.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:30am

Was it against the law for Trump to attack another country
without approval from Congress?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Gordon on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:32am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:18am:
Now - Iran did promise to attack American bases in the Middle East -
and the Houthis promised to attack ships in the Red Sea -
if the US entered the war.

Will the war now escalate?


They may chuck a browneye at American ships. That's about the worse they could do.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Leroy on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:34am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:30am:
Was it against the law for Trump to attack another country
without approval from Congress?


No

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:46am

Leroy wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:30am:
Was it against the law for Trump to attack another country
without approval from Congress?


No




https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/does-the-president-need-congress-to-approve-military-actions-in-iran

"While Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution spells out that “the President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states,” only Congress has the power to declare war, as an enumerated power under Article I, Section 8, Clause 11."

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:51am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:46am:

Leroy wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:30am:
Was it against the law for Trump to attack another country
without approval from Congress?


No




https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/does-the-president-need-congress-to-approve-military-actions-in-iran

"While Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution spells out that “the President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states,” only Congress has the power to declare war, as an enumerated power under Article I, Section 8, Clause 11."


He hasn't declared war, Bobby.

He's just dropped bombs on children, that's all.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:52am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:51am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:46am:

Leroy wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:30am:
Was it against the law for Trump to attack another country
without approval from Congress?


No




https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/does-the-president-need-congress-to-approve-military-actions-in-iran

"While Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution spells out that “the President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states,” only Congress has the power to declare war, as an enumerated power under Article I, Section 8, Clause 11."


He hasn't declared war, Bobby.

He's just dropped bombs on children, that's all.




Wow – it looks like the Democrats could try to impeach Trump?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 11:12am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:51am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:46am:

Leroy wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:30am:
Was it against the law for Trump to attack another country
without approval from Congress?


No




https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/does-the-president-need-congress-to-approve-military-actions-in-iran

"While Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution spells out that “the President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states,” only Congress has the power to declare war, as an enumerated power under Article I, Section 8, Clause 11."


He hasn't declared war, Bobby.

He's just dropped bombs on children, that's all.




Wow – it looks like the Democrats could try to impeach Trump?


so it looks like trump and bibi will be sharing a jail cell together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB8eC0sd-jA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkxZ46crngY



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 11:18am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 11:12am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:51am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:46am:

Leroy wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:30am:
Was it against the law for Trump to attack another country
without approval from Congress?


No




https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/does-the-president-need-congress-to-approve-military-actions-in-iran

"While Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution spells out that “the President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states,” only Congress has the power to declare war, as an enumerated power under Article I, Section 8, Clause 11."


He hasn't declared war, Bobby.

He's just dropped bombs on children, that's all.




Wow – it looks like the Democrats could try to impeach Trump?


so it looks like trump and bibi will be sharing a jail cell together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB8eC0sd-jA


Another good vid from Bernie.

Unfortunately, those two war criminals will probably never face justice.

What happens next?

I guess Trump - the rapist and convicted felon - will wait to see how this act of war will affect his polling numbers.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Belgarion on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 11:30am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:00am:
WOW

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-06-21-25-intl-hnk#cmc6vpmny000k3b6niyffgdws

2 min ago

Trump announces air strikes on three nuclear sites in Iran

From CNN’s Alejandra Jaramillo

President Donald Trump announced Saturday that the US has completed a “very successful attack” on nuclear sites in Iran including Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan.

The president said all planes are now outside of Iran air space.

“We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan. All planes are now outside of Iran air space. A full payload of BOMBS was dropped on the primary site, Fordow. All planes are safely on their way home. Congratulations to our great American Warriors. There is not another military in the World that could have done this. NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE!Thank you for your attention to this matter,” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post.



Had to be done. The Islamist fanatics cannot be allowed to develop nuclear weapons and are totally unable to listen to reason, so this was the only option.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Belgarion on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 11:32am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:51am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:46am:

Leroy wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:30am:
Was it against the law for Trump to attack another country
without approval from Congress?


No




https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/does-the-president-need-congress-to-approve-military-actions-in-iran

"While Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution spells out that “the President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states,” only Congress has the power to declare war, as an enumerated power under Article I, Section 8, Clause 11."


He hasn't declared war, Bobby.

He's just dropped bombs on children, that's all.


Only if the fanatical Islamists are hiding them in nuclear weapons  facilities, which would not be at all surprising.  ::)

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 11:33am

The rapist & convicted felon will be holding a press conference (i.e. barrage of lies) in half an hour.

Little Leavitt will be shitting herself   :)

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Gordon on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 11:40am
Let's hope this topples the Iranian regime. I know that would upset the jew haters here but the Iranians are cheering this on.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 11:50am

Belgarion wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 11:30am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:00am:
WOW

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-06-21-25-intl-hnk#cmc6vpmny000k3b6niyffgdws

2 min ago

Trump announces air strikes on three nuclear sites in Iran

From CNN’s Alejandra Jaramillo

President Donald Trump announced Saturday that the US has completed a “very successful attack” on nuclear sites in Iran including Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan.

The president said all planes are now outside of Iran air space.

“We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan. All planes are now outside of Iran air space. A full payload of BOMBS was dropped on the primary site, Fordow. All planes are safely on their way home. Congratulations to our great American Warriors. There is not another military in the World that could have done this. NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE!Thank you for your attention to this matter,” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post.



Had to be done. The Islamist fanatics cannot be allowed to develop nuclear weapons and are totally unable to listen to reason, so this was the only option.


They never had one to begin with unlike Israel who has hundreds of them and is run by a psychotic war criminal who murders women and children.

BTW, have you found the Weapons of Mass Deception in Iraq yet, or are you still looking for them ? 10 trillion wasted on looking for the alleged weapons of mass disappearance whilst people in the US living on the streets or in tents :(



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 11:52am

Gordon wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 11:40am:
Let's hope this topples the Iranian regime. I know that would upset the jew haters here but the Iranians are cheering this on.


You pay for it then, and you risk your life this time. :(



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Jasin on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 11:59am
Gutless wonder Nail ::)

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 12:08pm

Well, there we go - the rapist said it's not over yet.

And he thanked God   ;D

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:03pm
if there were actual nuclear weapons there wouldn't there be mushroom clouds? wouldn't they have gone off when being bombed? wouldn't they have USED them since israel keeps attacking them?

Spot

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Gordon on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:20pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:03pm:
if there were actual nuclear weapons there wouldn't there be mushroom clouds? wouldn't they have gone off when being bombed? wouldn't they have USED them since israel keeps attacking them?

Spot


Are you actually retarded?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:27pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:03pm:
if there were actual nuclear weapons there wouldn't there be mushroom clouds? wouldn't they have gone off when being bombed? wouldn't they have USED them since israel keeps attacking them?

Spot


Hey Spot, good to see you again.

Seems like Tulsi Gabbard might have been right all along.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Gordon on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:41pm
So many retards here. ;)

A nuclear explosion would not typically detonate another nuclear bomb. Nuclear bombs are designed with specific mechanisms to initiate a nuclear chain reaction, requiring precise conditions like the compression of fissile material (e.g., uranium or plutonium) using high explosives or other sophisticated triggers. The intense heat, shockwave, and radiation from a nearby nuclear explosion might damage or destroy another nuclear bomb, but it’s unlikely to cause the exact conditions needed for detonation. The bomb’s safety mechanisms and the complexity of its triggering process make accidental detonation from an external explosion highly improba

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:43pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:03pm:
if there were actual nuclear weapons there wouldn't there be mushroom clouds? wouldn't they have gone off when being bombed? wouldn't they have USED them since israel keeps attacking them?

Spot


Good question.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:50pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 11:59am:
Gutless wonder Nail ::)


Then you sign up to fight for yet another one of bennys fake wars in the Middle East. Be my guest. There's a sucker born every minute :D LOL

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:43pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:03pm:
if there were actual nuclear weapons there wouldn't there be mushroom clouds? wouldn't they have gone off when being bombed? wouldn't they have USED them since israel keeps attacking them?

Spot


Good question.


Some people on this forum are so retarded that their long term memory only lasts for a few weeks :(


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Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Leroy on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 2:05pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:03pm:
if there were actual nuclear weapons there wouldn't there be mushroom clouds? wouldn't they have gone off when being bombed? wouldn't they have USED them since israel keeps attacking them?

Spot


The attack on Iran was NOT because they have or are building a nuclear bomb, the attack on Iran was because they continue to enrich uranium and the only purpose for doing that is to have the ingredients to build a nuclear bomb. This attack was to remove the ability of Iran to enrich uranium so that they could use it in bombs.

Just like Gabbard said, Iran is not building a nuclear bomb they are assembling all the parts needed to build a bomb.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 2:18pm

Leroy wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 2:05pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:03pm:
if there were actual nuclear weapons there wouldn't there be mushroom clouds? wouldn't they have gone off when being bombed? wouldn't they have USED them since israel keeps attacking them?

Spot


The attack on Iran was NOT because they have or are building a nuclear bomb, the attack on Iran was because they continue to enrich uranium and the only purpose for doing that is to have the ingredients to build a nuclear bomb. This attack was to remove the ability of Iran to enrich uranium so that they could use it in bombs.

Just like Gabbard said, Iran is not building a nuclear bomb they are assembling all the parts needed to build a bomb.


Trump - rapist and convicted felon - disagrees.

President Trump on Friday said his director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, was "wrong" when she testified in March that Iran wasn't building a nuclear weapon, marking the second time in a week the president has dismissed the assessment of the intelligence director he selected.

The White House this week said Iran has everything it needs to build a nuclear weapon and needs only the green light from Iran's supreme leader, with the ability to ready a nuclear weapon within weeks. Mr. Trump said Iran was "very close to having" a nuclear weapon.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Leroy on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 2:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 2:18pm:

Leroy wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 2:05pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:03pm:
if there were actual nuclear weapons there wouldn't there be mushroom clouds? wouldn't they have gone off when being bombed? wouldn't they have USED them since israel keeps attacking them?

Spot


The attack on Iran was NOT because they have or are building a nuclear bomb, the attack on Iran was because they continue to enrich uranium and the only purpose for doing that is to have the ingredients to build a nuclear bomb. This attack was to remove the ability of Iran to enrich uranium so that they could use it in bombs.

Just like Gabbard said, Iran is not building a nuclear bomb they are assembling all the parts needed to build a bomb.


Trump - rapist and convicted felon - disagrees.

President Trump on Friday said his director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, was "wrong" when she testified in March that Iran wasn't building a nuclear weapon, marking the second time in a week the president has dismissed the assessment of the intelligence director he selected.

The White House this week said Iran has everything it needs to build a nuclear weapon and needs only the green light from Iran's supreme leader, with the ability to ready a nuclear weapon within weeks. Mr. Trump said Iran was "very close to having" a nuclear weapon.


Idiot.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 2:22pm

Leroy wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 2:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 2:18pm:

Leroy wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 2:05pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:03pm:
if there were actual nuclear weapons there wouldn't there be mushroom clouds? wouldn't they have gone off when being bombed? wouldn't they have USED them since israel keeps attacking them?

Spot


The attack on Iran was NOT because they have or are building a nuclear bomb, the attack on Iran was because they continue to enrich uranium and the only purpose for doing that is to have the ingredients to build a nuclear bomb. This attack was to remove the ability of Iran to enrich uranium so that they could use it in bombs.

Just like Gabbard said, Iran is not building a nuclear bomb they are assembling all the parts needed to build a bomb.


Trump - rapist and convicted felon - disagrees.

President Trump on Friday said his director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, was "wrong" when she testified in March that Iran wasn't building a nuclear weapon, marking the second time in a week the president has dismissed the assessment of the intelligence director he selected.

The White House this week said Iran has everything it needs to build a nuclear weapon and needs only the green light from Iran's supreme leader, with the ability to ready a nuclear weapon within weeks. Mr. Trump said Iran was "very close to having" a nuclear weapon.


Idiot.


Indeed, he is.

As are his followers.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 3:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 2:18pm:

Leroy wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 2:05pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:03pm:
if there were actual nuclear weapons there wouldn't there be mushroom clouds? wouldn't they have gone off when being bombed? wouldn't they have USED them since israel keeps attacking them?

Spot


The attack on Iran was NOT because they have or are building a nuclear bomb, the attack on Iran was because they continue to enrich uranium and the only purpose for doing that is to have the ingredients to build a nuclear bomb. This attack was to remove the ability of Iran to enrich uranium so that they could use it in bombs.

Just like Gabbard said, Iran is not building a nuclear bomb they are assembling all the parts needed to build a bomb.


Trump - rapist and convicted felon - disagrees.

President Trump on Friday said his director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, was "wrong" when she testified in March that Iran wasn't building a nuclear weapon, marking the second time in a week the president has dismissed the assessment of the intelligence director he selected.

The White House this week said Iran has everything it needs to build a nuclear weapon and needs only the green light from Iran's supreme leader, with the ability to ready a nuclear weapon within weeks. Mr. Trump said Iran was "very close to having" a nuclear weapon.


Hi greggerypeccary

Yeah i got my eyesight back finally.

I saw trumps speech this morning at a mates place and it was just big noting and he was saying he was going to doit again straight after saying that was it and its done and dusted. He just wants a war.

Spot


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Frank on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 3:28pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 3:24pm:
I saw trumps speech this morning at a mates place and it was just big noting and he was saying he was going to doit again straight after saying that was it and its done and dusted. He just wants a war.

Spot



A short time ago, the US military carried out massive precision strikes on the three key nuclear facilities in the Uranian regime.

Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan.  Everybody heard those names for years as they built this horribly destructive enterprise.

Our objective was the destruction of Iran’s nuclear enrichment capacity and a stop to the nuclear threat posed by the world’s number one state sponsor of terror.

Tonight, I can report to the world that the strikes were a spectacular military success. Iran’s key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated.

Iran – the bully of the Middle East – must now make peace.  If they do not, future attacks will be far greater and a lot easier.

For 40 years Iran has been saying ‘death to America’ ‘death to Israel’. They have been killing our people. Blowing off their arms. Blowing off their legs with roadside bombs. That was their specialty…

We lost over a thousand people and hundreds of thousands throughout the Middle East and around the world have died as a direct result of their hate.

In particular, so many were killed by their general Qasem Soleimani.

I decided a long time ago that I would not let this happen. It will not continue.

I want to thank and congratulate Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu – we worked as a team perhaps like no team has ever worked before and we have gone a long way to erasing this horrible threat to Israel.

I want to thank the Israeli military for the wonderful job they have done and most importantly I want to congratulate the great American patriots who flew those magnificent machines tonight and all of the United States military on an operation the likes of which the world has not seen in many many decades.

Hopefully we will not need their services in this capacity. I hope that’s so.

I also want to congratulate the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Razin Caine – spectacular general – and all of the brilliant military minds involved in this attack.  With all of that being said, this cannot continue.

There will be either peace, or there will be tragedy for Iran far greater than we have witnessed over the last eight days.

Remember, there are many targets left.

Tonight’s was the most difficult of them all, by far. And perhaps the most lethal.

But if peace does not come quickly, we will go after those other targets with precision, speed, and skill.

Most of them can be taken out in a matter of minutes.  There is no military in the world that could have done what we did tonight.  Not even close.  There has never been a military that can do what took place just a little while ago.

Tomorrow, General Caine and Secretary of Defence Pete Hegseth will have a press conference at 8 am at the Pentagon.

And I want to just thank everybody and in particular, God – I want to just say, we love you God and I love our great military – protect them.

God bless the Middle East.  God bless Israel.  And God bless America.  Thank you very much.

Donald Trump

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 3:29pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 3:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 2:18pm:

Leroy wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 2:05pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 1:03pm:
if there were actual nuclear weapons there wouldn't there be mushroom clouds? wouldn't they have gone off when being bombed? wouldn't they have USED them since israel keeps attacking them?

Spot


The attack on Iran was NOT because they have or are building a nuclear bomb, the attack on Iran was because they continue to enrich uranium and the only purpose for doing that is to have the ingredients to build a nuclear bomb. This attack was to remove the ability of Iran to enrich uranium so that they could use it in bombs.

Just like Gabbard said, Iran is not building a nuclear bomb they are assembling all the parts needed to build a bomb.


Trump - rapist and convicted felon - disagrees.

President Trump on Friday said his director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, was "wrong" when she testified in March that Iran wasn't building a nuclear weapon, marking the second time in a week the president has dismissed the assessment of the intelligence director he selected.

The White House this week said Iran has everything it needs to build a nuclear weapon and needs only the green light from Iran's supreme leader, with the ability to ready a nuclear weapon within weeks. Mr. Trump said Iran was "very close to having" a nuclear weapon.


Hi greggerypeccary

Yeah i got my eyesight back finally.

I saw trumps speech this morning at a mates place and it was just big noting and he was saying he was going to doit again straight after saying that was it and its done and dusted. He just wants a war.

Spot


Indeed.

He's full of poo.

Great news about your eyesight   :)

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 4:32pm

Bibi thanks Trump:


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uUiuLCd83Lo

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 5:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 4:32pm:
Bibi thanks Trump:


For following his orders.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 5:28pm
ABC 24 news:

they used 12 bunker busters on Fordow -

the other sites were hit with Tomahawk cruise missiles.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by aquascoot on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 5:47pm
Trump must have watched Top Gun Maverick

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 5:56pm
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-06-22-25-intl-hnk


1 hr 52 min ago

"Large-scale destruction" after missile strike in central Israel


Buildings have been severely damaged in Tel Aviv after being struck by an Iranian missile, emergency responders have said.

“This is a large-scale destruction site. Several two-story residential buildings were severely damaged, and some collapsed,” said emergency services agency Magen David Adom (MDA).

Video released by emergency services showed parts of a building reduced to rubble and significant damage to other buildings in the surrounding area.

A large number of emergency responders were on the scene.

Israel Police said officers and bomb disposal units were at the scene of munition fall in central Israel.

A city official in the northern city of Haifa also confirmed an impact in the city.




Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 10:45pm
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-06-22-25-intl-hnk

19 min ago


US deployed bombers over the Pacific as a "decoy" during Iran operation

From CNN's Natasha Bertrand

Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine speaks during a news conference at the Pentagon today.

The US military operation against Iran on Saturday, codenamed “Operation Midnight Hammer,” involved more than 125 aircraft and a deception operation that saw bombers deployed over the Pacific as a “decoy,” Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Dan Caine told reporters on Sunday.

The unprecedented operation involved seven stealth B2 bombers. Bombers dropped more than a dozen 30,000-pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator bombs on two Iranian nuclear facilities, Fordow and Natanz, Caine said. Tomahawk missiles were launched at Isfahan.

All told, more than 125 aircraft were involved, including the B2s, refueling tankers, reconnaissance planes and fighter jets. The bombers struck Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan beginning at 6:40 p.m. ET and were out of Iranian airspace by 7 p.m. ET, Caine said.

Flying from a base in Missouri, the mission was the longest B2 mission since just after the September 11 attacks, Caine said.

Dozens of Tomahawk missiles were also launched at targets inside Iran as part of the operation, Caine said.

“At midnight Friday into Saturday morning, a large B-2 strike package comprised of bombers launched from the continental United States,” Caine said. “As part of a plan to maintain tactical surprise, part of the package proceeded to the west and into the Pacific as a decoy — a deception effort known only to an extremely small number of planners and key leaders here in Washington and in Tampa.”

“The main strike package comprised of seven B-2 Spirit bombers, each with two crew members, proceeded quietly to the east with minimal communications,” Caine said.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2025 at 11:33pm
This is all we're gunna get -  6 holes in the mountain:


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/fresh-satellite-images-show-damage-at-fordo-nuclear-site-after-us-strikes/




Fresh satellite images show damage at Fordo nuclear site after US strikes

By Emanuel Fabian
and Agencies
Today, 4:27 pm

Additional satellite images show damage on the mountainside at Iran’s underground Fordo nuclear site after US airstrikes targeted the facility.

The images by Maxar show at least six holes on the mountain, where the massive 30,000-pound GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator bombs, dropped from B-2 stealth bombers, impacted.

The “bunker buster” bomb is believed to be able to penetrate about 200 feet (61 meters) below the surface before exploding.

Iran has yet to offer a damage assessment of the site.



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 12:31am

Jun 22, 2025

“What now happens in their response to the West as well is not just about sending ballistic missiles, it's about: are there sleeper cells, are the terrorists already here? Are we radicalising people here and in America?”

Iran’s retaliation may not be centred around just a nuclear arsenal, but with other weapons and even martyrs, says former conservative government minister, Paul Scully


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfgaUP5uDw4

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 6:53am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 12:31am:
Jun 22, 2025

“What now happens in their response to the West as well is not just about sending ballistic missiles, it's about: are there sleeper cells, are the terrorists already here? Are we radicalising people here and in America?”

Iran’s retaliation may not be centred around just a nuclear arsenal, but with other weapons and even martyrs, says former conservative government minister, Paul Scully


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfgaUP5uDw4


Now the West begins to see the real dangers of uncontrolled namby-pambying to all cultures and types as 'equals' regardless of their shot-hole politics, low intelligence inbred, adherence to fanatical versions of religion, and so forth... and even foolishly and foppishly importing those to the West ... sort of recreational thinking for uni graduates these days this 'everyone is equal' thing ... as long as they, of course, are the more equal pigs with the right to dictate to all ...

................. meanwhile in boring news back home... the tranny movement persists in trying to say that it has real enemies outside its own personal paranoia, saying that Christians are fanatically seeking to genocide trannies whenever there is a move to control chemical and surgical mutilations of minors........... The Madness goes on ...

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 6:58am
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-06-22-25-intl-hnk#cmc7mqrpb000m3b6nycaso05j


7 hr 4 min ago


Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff lays out timeline for "Operation Midnight Hammer"

From CNN's Betsy Klein and Haley Britzky

US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Dan Caine attends a news conference at the Pentagon on Sunday morning.

US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Dan Caine offered a timeline of the US strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities, an effort codenamed “Operation Midnight Hammer.”

Midnight ET: The operation began overnight Friday into Saturday morning, Caine said at a Pentagon news conference. As B-2 bombers launched from the US, some headed west as a decoy while the rest “proceeded quietly to the east with minimal communications throughout the 18-hour flight.”

Around 5 p.m. ET: Caine said a US submarine “launched more than two dozen Tomahawk land attack cruise missiles against key surface infrastructure targets” at the Isfahan nuclear site in Iran.

As the B-2s entered Iranian airspace, the US “employed several deception tactics, including decoys, as the fourth- and fifth-generation aircraft pushed out in front of the strike package at high altitude and high speed, sweeping in front of the package for enemy fighters and surface-to-air missile threats,” Caine said.

He added that upon approach of the Natanz and Fordow facilities, the US employed “high-speed suppression weapons” with fighter aircraft to “ensure safe passage” of the B-2 bombers.

Around 6:40 p.m. ET: The lead B-2 bomber launched two massive “bunker-buster” bombs at Fordow nuclear site, Caine said, and the “remaining bombers then hit their targets.”

Those additional targets were struck, Caine said, “between 6:40 p.m. ET and 7:05 p.m. ET.”

That places the timing of these attacks around 2:10 a.m. local time in Iran on Sunday.

In total, Caine said, 14 GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrators were dropped.

Flight back to US: The US military then “began its return home,” Caine said, noting that no shots were fired by Iran at the US on the way in or out.

This post has been updated with additional details from Caine’s news conference.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 9:48am
So Iran was attacked because of their Uranium enrichment, not because they have nukes.

So it is Trump's fault then, since he tore up the agreement that was preventing their uranium enrichment for weapons purposes and failed to negotiate a new deal, all because it had Obama's signature on it.

Tired of winning yet?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 11:03am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 9:48am:
So Iran was attacked because of their Uranium enrichment, not because they have nukes.

So it is Trump's fault then, since he tore up the agreement that was preventing their uranium enrichment for weapons purposes and failed to negotiate a new deal, all because it had Obama's signature on it.

Tired of winning yet?


Yep.

It's the same old story.

Trump is "fixing a problem" that he caused himself.

He's like an arsonist firefighter who wants praise for putting out the blaze he started.

He is 100% to blame for the current situation.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 2:03pm

INTERVIEW: The war is just beginning, says Col Douglas Macgregor


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tdeP4up5To

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 2:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 2:03pm:
INTERVIEW: The war is just beginning, says Col Douglas Macgregor


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tdeP4up5To


Good interview.

He makes a lot of sense.

More from him here: https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1936918925922734321

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 2:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 2:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 2:03pm:
INTERVIEW: The war is just beginning, says Col Douglas Macgregor


Good interview.

He makes a lot of sense.

More from him here: https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1936918925922734321



Hopefully he is wrong and this war just fizzles out.

Iran only launched one missile against Israel in their last barrage:


https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-06-22-25-intl-hnk


4 hours ago :

Israeli military says Iran has launched new wave of missiles at Israel

From CNN’s Eugenia Yosef, Jeremy Diamond, and Kareem Khadder
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) says a new wave of Iranian missiles has been launched toward Israel.

“A short while ago, sirens sounded in several areas across Israel following the identification of missiles launched from Iran toward the State of Israel,” said a statement from the IDF.

The military instructed the public to enter shelters and said defense systems were operating.

A spokesperson for Magen David Adom, Israel’s national emergency medical service, said it hadn’t received any calls to their hotline about falls or injuries, “with the exception of cases of anxiety and people who were injured on the way to a protected area.”

Only one missile was launched by Iran and was intercepted by Israel’s air defenses,
an Israeli official told CNN.


Video showed the missile moving through the sky above Jerusalem, and sirens were heard in several areas of the country warning people to enter shelters. People have since been told they can leave shelters.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 2:53pm



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 3:00pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 2:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 2:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 2:03pm:
INTERVIEW: The war is just beginning, says Col Douglas Macgregor


Good interview.

He makes a lot of sense.

More from him here: https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1936918925922734321



Hopefully he is wrong and this war just fizzles out.

Iran only launched one missile against Israel in their last barrage:


Says who?


Quote:
Only one missile was launched by Iran and was intercepted by Israel’s air defenses,
an Israeli official told CNN.


Ah.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 3:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 2:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 2:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 2:03pm:
INTERVIEW: The war is just beginning, says Col Douglas Macgregor


Good interview.

He makes a lot of sense.

More from him here: https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1936918925922734321



Hopefully he is wrong and this war just fizzles out.

Iran only launched one missile against Israel in their last barrage:


Says who?


Quote:
Only one missile was launched by Iran and was intercepted by Israel’s air defenses,
an Israeli official told CNN.


Ah.



I believe it.

Even Hamas can do better now -

only one lousy missile - Iran is finished.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:21pm

Iran's big response?

Only one lousy missile.   ::)



https://www.timesofisrael.com/single-missile-from-iran-downed-amid-retaliation-threats-trump-floats-tehran-regime-change/

Today, 6:27 am

Single missile from Iran downed amid retaliation threats;

Trump floats Tehran regime change
‘MIGA!’ posts US president; no injuries in overnight attack on Israel; Iran’s proxies said prepping to hit US bases, Iranian official says American forces in Mideast are ‘legitimate targets’


The overnight launch triggered sirens throughout central Israel, sending millions to bomb shelters around 3 a.m. It was intercepted, the military said, and there were no reports of injuries as a result of the attack.

So far, Iran’s missile attacks have killed 24 people and wounded thousands in Israel, according to health officials and hospitals. Some of the missiles that have not been intercepted by Israeli air defenses have hit apartment buildings, a university and a hospital, causing heavy damage.

Also early Monday, the Israeli Air Force downed a drone launched toward the southern city of Eilat before it crossed into Israeli territory, the IDF said, without elaborating on the drone’s origin. No sirens sounded amid that incident.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:44pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:21pm:
Iran's big response?

Only one lousy missile. 


Says who, Bobby?


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:49pm
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/flashes/

9:32 IDF strikes surface-to-surface missile launch and storage sites in Iran

9:27 Overnight: IDF strikes six airports in Iran

8:37 Report: Second Israeli UAV shot down over Iran

8:34 IDF requests extension for response on Draft Law petition amid Iran conflict

8:27 Tanya video/lecture: The Holy Epistle

8:09 Political Antisemitism exposed by Operation Rising Lion

8:04 North Korea condemns US strike in Iran: 'Serious violation of sovereign rights'

7:50 Iran's neighbors fear revenge

7:48 IAF striking in Kermanshah

7:39 US President and UK Prime Minister agree: 'Iran must not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons'

7:28 Ukraine: At least five civilians wounded in Russian drone attack

7:25 State Department to US citizens: exercise increased caution

7:22 Trump to meet with national security team to discuss aftermath of strike in Iran

6:56 Operation 'Safe Return': Outbound flights from Ben Gurion Airport to resume Monday

6:22 Report: Iran threatened US homeland with attacks from sleeper cells

6:00 NBA: Oklahoma City defeats Indiana to win first championship

5:45 Freed student Mahmoud Khalil joins NYC anti-Israel rally

5:38 IAF intercepts UAV in the area of Eilat

5:28 Trump: The biggest damage to Iran's nuclear sites took place far below ground level


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:21pm:
Iran's big response?

Only one lousy missile. 


Says who, Bobby?



Also here:

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/410490

Sirens in central Israel, one missile from Iran intercepted

IDF identifies missile launch from Iran toward the territory of the State of Israel. The missile was intercepted, no reports about injuries received.


Israel National News
  Jun 23, 2025, 3:08 AM (GMT+3)



The IDF identified that one missile was launched from Iran toward the territory of the State of Israel shortly after 3:00 a.m. on Monday morning.

The missile was successfully intercepted. Magen David Adom (MDA) said no calls were received about injuries.

Residents were permitted to leave protected spaces at 3:24 a.m.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:21pm:
Iran's big response?

Only one lousy missile. 


Says who, Bobby?



Also here:

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/410490


Is it a lie?

I will say this, I don’t see any reason why it would be.

;)

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 5:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:21pm:
Iran's big response?

Only one lousy missile. 


Says who, Bobby?



Also here:

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/410490


Is it a lie?

I will say this, I don’t see any reason why it would be.

;)



Greggy,
I'm only a humble messenger and I supply some pretty good links
to back up my posts.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 5:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 5:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 4:21pm:
Iran's big response?

Only one lousy missile. 


Says who, Bobby?



Also here:

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/410490


Is it a lie?

I will say this, I don’t see any reason why it would be.

;)



Greggy,
I'm only a humble messenger and I supply some pretty good links
to back up my posts.


Never any proof though.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 9:29pm
https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-fires-ballistic-missiles-at-israel-idf-targets-tehran-with-unprecedented-strikes/


Iran fires ballistic missiles at Israel; IDF targets Tehran with ‘unprecedented’ strikes

Israel Electric Corporation says missile impact near ‘strategic infrastructure facility’
in south caused temporary power disruptions;
Israeli drone shot down over Iran


By Emanuel Fabian

Today, 12:58 pm

People gather in a underground shelter in Tel Aviv on June 23, 2025, after sirens sounded across the country as missiles were fired from Iran (Menahem Kahana / AFP)

A prolonged ballistic missile attack from Iran sent millions seeking shelter across Israel on Monday morning, with one impact causing power outages in a number of southern towns.

There were no injuries reported in the attack, which triggered sirens in northern, central and southern Israel, including alerts in communities close to the Gaza and Lebanese borders.

The Israel Defense Forces said six or seven missiles were launched from Iran in four waves over a 40-minute period.

The Israel Electric Corporation said the ballistic missile impact near a “strategic infrastructure facility” in southern Israel caused temporary power disruptions in several towns in the area.

One more ballistic missile was fired around an hour later,
again triggering sirens in the north of Israel. The projectile was intercepted and there were no injuries reported.


List of activity here:
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/flashes/

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 9:42pm

How did the Yanks know where to bomb at Fordow?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-23/satellite-images-show-damage-at-iranian-nuclear-sites/105449430

The ventilation shaft had been identified as a weak spot in the structure —

after Fordow’s early blueprints were stolen in a 2018 raid by Mossad,

Israel’s foreign intelligence service.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 11:39pm
History - Iran was definitely working on a nuclear weapon:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/papers-stolen-in-a-daring-israeli-raid-on-tehran-archive-reveal-the-extent-of-irans-past-weapons-research/2018/07/15/0f7911c8-877c-11e8-8553-a3ce89036c78_story.html

National Security

Papers stolen in a daring Israeli raid on Tehran archive reveal
the extent of Iran’s past weapons research


July 15, 2018


TEL AVIV — New details from a trove of Iranian nuclear documents stolen by Israeli spies early this year show that Tehran obtained explicit weapons-
design information from a foreign source and was on the cusp of mastering key bombmaking technologies when the research was ordered halted 15 years ago.

Iran’s ambitious, highly secretive effort to build nuclear weapons included extensive research in making uranium metal as well as advanced testing of equipment used to generate neutrons to start a nuclear chain reaction, the documents show.

While Iranian officials halted much of the work in 2003, internal memos show senior scientists making extensive plans to continue several projects in secret, hidden within existing military research programs.

“The work would be divided in two: covert (secret structure and goals) and overt,” an Iranian scientist writes in one memo, part of a 100,000-document archive seized in a daring raid on a storage facility in Tehran by Israel’s Mossad intelligence agency in January.

the newly uncovered evidence of Tehran’s advanced nuclear weapons research — along with its elaborate efforts to conceal the activity while preserving the technical know-how for possible future use — shows that Iran cannot be trusted.

Iran, in a statement released by its U.N. mission in New York, challenged the authenticity of the documents.



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 24th, 2025 at 12:02am
Now you know why Trump tore up the deal with Iran and said it was the worst deal ever.

Obama sent pallets of cash to Iran his deal didn't stop them working on a bomb.

Mossad knew where every Iranian nuclear scientist slept they put bombs under their beds and took them all out on first night at the exact same time.

They put a bomb under Hamas leader Haniyehs bed while he was in a secure IRGC building.

The best thing about the pager attack on Hezbollah was the Israelis made a profit selling them the pagers.

Mossad would have to be the best spy group from any country.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2025 at 12:28am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 12:02am:
Now you know why Trump tore up the deal with Iran and said it was the worst deal ever.

Obama sent pallets of cash to Iran his deal didn't stop them working on a bomb.

Mossad knew where every Iranian nuclear scientist slept they put bombs under their beds and took them all out on first night at the exact same time.

They put a bomb under Hamas leader Haniyehs bed while he was in a secure IRGC building.

The best thing about the pager attack on Hezbollah was the Israelis made a profit selling them the pagers.

Mossad would have to be the best spy group from any country.



I reckon Iran already has a nuke.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 24th, 2025 at 12:43am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 12:28am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 12:02am:
Now you know why Trump tore up the deal with Iran and said it was the worst deal ever.

Obama sent pallets of cash to Iran his deal didn't stop them working on a bomb.

Mossad knew where every Iranian nuclear scientist slept they put bombs under their beds and took them all out on first night at the exact same time.

They put a bomb under Hamas leader Haniyehs bed while he was in a secure IRGC building.

The best thing about the pager attack on Hezbollah was the Israelis made a profit selling them the pagers.

Mossad would have to be the best spy group from any country.



I reckon already has a nuke.


I don't think they did have one.
They probably would if Israel wasn't knocking off their nuclear scientists.

You need just under 4% enrichment for nuclear powerplant.
The fact IAEA have reported stockpiles of 60+% and some at 87% enriched is all the evidence you need to show they were working on a bomb.
Enriching to that level is unprecedented for civilian power.

Leftists here don't want us to have nuclear power yet they don't have a problem with Iran enriching uranium way past levels required for power and even defend Iran in doing this.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2025 at 6:22am
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/410543


Trump:

No casualties in Iranian attack, Iran got it out of their 'system'

Following Iranian missile attack on US bases in Qatar, President Trump 'thanks' Iran for giving early notice of the attack, enabling the US to ensure no one would be harmed.

US President Donald Trump commented on the Iranian attack on American military bases in the Middle East today (Monday), saying that there were no casualties and that Iran had given an early warning prior to the attack.

"Iran has officially responded to our Obliteration of their Nuclear Facilities with a very weak response, which we expected, and have very effectively countered. There have been 14 missiles fired — 13 were knocked down, and 1 was 'set free,' because it was headed in a nonthreatening direction," Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform.

"I am pleased to report that NO Americans were harmed, and hardly any damage was done. Most importantly, they’ve gotten it all out of their 'system,' and there will, hopefully, be no further HATE. I want to thank Iran for giving us early notice, which made it possible for no lives to be lost, and nobody to be injured. Perhaps Iran can now proceed to Peace and Harmony in the Region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same. Thank you for your attention to this matter!" he stated.

Earlier this evening, Iran launched a salvo of missiles at American bases in Qatar in response to the American strike on its nuclear sites over the weekend.

Title: Re: the War has ended - the 12 day war
Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2025 at 8:10am
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/flashes/


Trump says Israel and Iran have agreed to a ceasefire starting in six hours


Jun 24, 2025

US President Donald Trump announced on Monday night that Israel and Iran have agreed to a 12-hour ceasefire, beginning in six hours from now.

"It has been fully agreed by and between Israel and Iran that there will be a Complete and Total CEASEFIRE (in approximately 6 hours from now, when Israel and Iran have wound down and completed their in progress, final missions!), for 12 hours, at which point the War will be considered, ENDED!" Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

He added, "Officially, Iran will start the CEASEFIRE and, upon the 12th Hour, Israel will start the CEASEFIRE and, upon the 24th Hour, an Official END to THE 12 DAY WAR will be saluted by the World. During each CEASEFIRE, the other side will remain PEACEFUL and RESPECTFUL. On the assumption that everything works as it should, which it will, I would like to congratulate both Countries, Israel and Iran, on having the Stamina, Courage, and Intelligence to end, what should be called, 'THE 12 DAY WAR.' This is a War that could have gone on for years, and destroyed the entire Middle East, but it didn’t, and never will! God bless Israel, God bless Iran, God bless the Middle East, God bless the United States of America, and GOD BLESS THE WORLD!"

Title: Re: the War has ended - the 12 day war
Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2025 at 8:42am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 8:10am:
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/flashes/


Trump says Israel and Iran have agreed to a ceasefire starting in six hours


Jun 24, 2025

US President Donald Trump announced on Monday night that Israel and Iran have agreed to a 12-hour ceasefire, beginning in six hours from now.

"It has been fully agreed by and between Israel and Iran that there will be a Complete and Total CEASEFIRE (in approximately 6 hours from now, when Israel and Iran have wound down and completed their in progress, final missions!), for 12 hours, at which point the War will be considered, ENDED!" Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

He added, "Officially, Iran will start the CEASEFIRE and, upon the 12th Hour, Israel will start the CEASEFIRE and, upon the 24th Hour, an Official END to THE 12 DAY WAR will be saluted by the World. During each CEASEFIRE, the other side will remain PEACEFUL and RESPECTFUL. On the assumption that everything works as it should, which it will, I would like to congratulate both Countries, Israel and Iran, on having the Stamina, Courage, and Intelligence to end, what should be called, 'THE 12 DAY WAR.' This is a War that could have gone on for years, and destroyed the entire Middle East, but it didn’t, and never will! God bless Israel, God bless Iran, God bless the Middle East, God bless the United States of America, and GOD BLESS THE WORLD!"




Well - I was wrong -

it wasn't WW3 - it's now over in 12 days.

That's good.

Title: Re: the War has ended - the 12 day war
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2025 at 8:52am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 8:42am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 8:10am:
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/flashes/


Trump says Israel and Iran have agreed to a ceasefire starting in six hours


Jun 24, 2025

US President Donald Trump announced on Monday night that Israel and Iran have agreed to a 12-hour ceasefire, beginning in six hours from now.

"It has been fully agreed by and between Israel and Iran that there will be a Complete and Total CEASEFIRE (in approximately 6 hours from now, when Israel and Iran have wound down and completed their in progress, final missions!), for 12 hours, at which point the War will be considered, ENDED!" Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

He added, "Officially, Iran will start the CEASEFIRE and, upon the 12th Hour, Israel will start the CEASEFIRE and, upon the 24th Hour, an Official END to THE 12 DAY WAR will be saluted by the World. During each CEASEFIRE, the other side will remain PEACEFUL and RESPECTFUL. On the assumption that everything works as it should, which it will, I would like to congratulate both Countries, Israel and Iran, on having the Stamina, Courage, and Intelligence to end, what should be called, 'THE 12 DAY WAR.' This is a War that could have gone on for years, and destroyed the entire Middle East, but it didn’t, and never will! God bless Israel, God bless Iran, God bless the Middle East, God bless the United States of America, and GOD BLESS THE WORLD!"




Well - I was wrong -

it wasn't WW3 - it's now over in 12 days.

That's good.


;D

Title: Re: the War has ended - the 12 day war
Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2025 at 8:54am


Trump will get his Nobel Peace Prize.


Title: Re: the War has ended - the 12 day war
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Jun 25th, 2025 at 3:47am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 8:54am:
Trump will get his Nobel Peace Prize.


Can you really get a "peace prize" for blowing things up? What a joke.

Spot

Title: Re: the War has ended - the 12 day war
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2025 at 7:17am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 3:47am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 8:54am:
Trump will get his Nobel Peace Prize.


Can you really get a "peace prize" for blowing things up? What a joke.

Spot



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-nominated-nobel-peace-prize-over-iran-israel-ceasefire-deal






A House lawmaker is nominating President Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize

after he brokered a ceasefire deal between Israel and Iran.

Rep. Buddy Carter, R-Ga., wrote to the Nobel Peace Prize Committee, declaring Trump had an "extraordinary and historic role" in having ended "the armed conflict between Israel and Iran and preventing the world’s largest state sponsor of terrorism from obtaining the most lethal weapon on the planet."

Trump declared the "12 Day War" was ending late on Monday afternoon with a ceasefire that was meant to go into effect overnight Tuesday.

It ends just over a week after Israel first launched a preemptive strike against Iran, arguing Tehran was dangerously close to obtaining a nuclear weapon.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 25th, 2025 at 7:30am
Doesn't a peace prize require peace?

Title: Re: the War has ended - the 12 day war
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2025 at 7:41am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 7:30am:
Doesn't a peace prize require peace?



Well - no one is firing missiles or bombing today in Iran and Israel.

Thanks Donald.

Title: Re: the War has ended - the 12 day war
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:38am

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-claims-historic-victory-says-we-sent-irans-nuclear-program-down-the-drain/

Netanyahu claims ‘historic victory,’ says
‘we sent Iran’s nuclear program down the drain’


I say:

Now Israel is in a position that they can't complain anymore
about Iran's nuclear weapons program -
it's all destroyed.    :)

Title: Re: the War has ended - the 12 day war
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:41am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:38am:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-claims-historic-victory-says-we-sent-irans-nuclear-program-down-the-drain/

Netanyahu claims ‘historic victory,’ says
‘we sent Iran’s nuclear program down the drain’


I say:

Now Israel is in a position that they can't complain anymore
about Iran's nuclear weapons program -
it's all destroyed.    :)


It's not all destroyed.

They'll keep complaining, and the war will continue.


Title: Re: the War has ended - the 12 day war
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:42am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:38am:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-claims-historic-victory-says-we-sent-irans-nuclear-program-down-the-drain/

Netanyahu claims ‘historic victory,’ says
‘we sent Iran’s nuclear program down the drain’


I say:

Now Israel is in a position that they can't complain anymore
about Iran's nuclear weapons program -
it's all destroyed.    :)


It's not all destroyed.

They'll keep complaining, and the war will continue.



Netanyahu claims ‘historic victory,’ says

‘we sent Iran’s nuclear program down the drain’

Title: Re: the War has ended - the 12 day war
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:43am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 3:47am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 8:54am:
Trump will get his Nobel Peace Prize.


Can you really get a "peace prize" for blowing things up? What a joke.

Spot


Blow things up.

Then stop blowing things up, and ask for a peace prize.

Crazy.

It's like rewarding an arsonist for putting out a fire he started.


Title: Re: the War has ended - the 12 day war
Post by Carl D on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:48am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:38am:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-claims-historic-victory-says-we-sent-irans-nuclear-program-down-the-drain/

Netanyahu claims ‘historic victory,’ says
‘we sent Iran’s nuclear program down the drain’


I say:

Now Israel is in a position that they can't complain anymore
about Iran's nuclear weapons program -
it's all destroyed.    :)


Maybe not?

US strikes only set back Iran's nuclear program by a few months, leaked intelligence says


Quote:
US media reports say leaked intelligence has cast doubt on US President Donald Trump's assertion that Iran's nuclear facilities have been obliterated.

A preliminary assessment reportedly found the weekend strikes only set back the country's nuclear program by a few months.

Details of the report, by the Pentagon's intelligence arm, were provided to CNN and The New York Times. The White House criticised the assessment as "flat-out wrong" and said it had been leaked by a "low-level loser".

According to multiple unnamed sources cited by the outlets, the assessment also found:

The bombings sealed off the entrances to two of the three targeted facilities but did not collapse their underground buildings.

Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium was not destroyed. Some of it may have been moved to secret nuclear sites.

The strikes were estimated to have delayed the nuclear program by less than six months


"Low-level loser". Must have been Trump who said that.


Quote:
Mr Trump has been critical of media coverage questioning the effectiveness of the strikes.

"Those pilots hit their targets, those targets were obliterated and the pilots should be given credit," he said on Tuesday, local time.

"These cable networks are real losers."


Yep, it'd definitely be Trump.  ::)

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Gordon on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:51am
Vile lefties want war and death just so they can blame Trump

Iran-Israel war live updates: Benjamin Netanyahu claims 'historic win' as Iran-Israel ceasefire appears to hold

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-25/iran-israel-war-live-updates-june-25/105456152?utm_campaign=abc_news_web&utm_content=link&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_news_web

Title: Re: the War has ended - the 12 day war
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2025 at 11:24am

Carl D wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:48am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:38am:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-claims-historic-victory-says-we-sent-irans-nuclear-program-down-the-drain/

Netanyahu claims ‘historic victory,’ says
‘we sent Iran’s nuclear program down the drain’


I say:

Now Israel is in a position that they can't complain anymore
about Iran's nuclear weapons program -
it's all destroyed.    :)


Maybe not?

US strikes only set back Iran's nuclear program by a few months, leaked intelligence says


Quote:
US media reports say leaked intelligence has cast doubt on US President Donald Trump's assertion that Iran's nuclear facilities have been obliterated.

A preliminary assessment reportedly found the weekend strikes only set back the country's nuclear program by a few months.

Details of the report, by the Pentagon's intelligence arm, were provided to CNN and The New York Times. The White House criticised the assessment as "flat-out wrong" and said it had been leaked by a "low-level loser".

According to multiple unnamed sources cited by the outlets, the assessment also found:

The bombings sealed off the entrances to two of the three targeted facilities but did not collapse their underground buildings.

Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium was not destroyed. Some of it may have been moved to secret nuclear sites.

The strikes were estimated to have delayed the nuclear program by less than six months


"Low-level loser". Must have been Trump who said that.

[quote]Mr Trump has been critical of media coverage questioning the effectiveness of the strikes.

"Those pilots hit their targets, those targets were obliterated and the pilots should be given credit," he said on Tuesday, local time.

"These cable networks are real losers."


Yep, it'd definitely be Trump.  ::)[/quote]

The illegal US attacks on Iran did little more than blow a few doors off their hinges and break a few windows.

Another Trump failure.

If it was as successful as the rapist and convicted felon claimed, why did Israel have to attack Fordow again?

This had done nothing to deter Iran - quite the opposite.

Trump and his war criminal buddy have made the world a much more dangerous place now.

When the terrorist attacks start on US soil, will he blame Hillary?




Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 25th, 2025 at 11:53am

Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:51am:
Vile lefties want war and death just so they can blame Trump

Iran-Israel war live updates: Benjamin Netanyahu claims 'historic win' as Iran-Israel ceasefire appears to hold

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-25/iran-israel-war-live-updates-june-25/105456152?utm_campaign=abc_news_web&utm_content=link&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_news_web


You say that, but really, all I, and I can only speak for myself here, actually want is for Trump to genuinely achieve what he's already parading around as a victory.

I think we're all sick and tired of his lies about his accomplishments and achievements, especially when in this case there are global impacts, not so much just the people in the US who suffer.  They asked for it, we didn't.

Considering they were still bombing each other after his ceasefire announcement, it wasn't exactly an inspiring start.

But so far, so good, and it may genuinely hold this time, because all three players have something to gain now.

Trump can claim he set back Iran's nuclear program, Israel can claim it weakened a key regional adversary, and Iran can claim survival and the ability to push back against far stronger military powers.

How much of that is objectively true almost doesn't matter, it's about optics, about feeding the loyalists, whether they're Israel's, Iran's, or Trump's.

I genuinely hope it works. I genuinely hope we see an end to the needless deaths of both Iranians and Israelis. I just wish that same effort extended to the civilians in Gaza, who always seem to be excluded from the peace calculus.

What worries me most, though, is that while all this plays out, while the West is laser-focused here, and especially if it flares up again because Trump blurts out something reckless, Putin will seize the distraction and hit Ukraine even harder.

Title: Re: the War has ended - the 12 day war
Post by thegreatdivide on Jun 25th, 2025 at 11:56am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 11:24am:

Carl D wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:48am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:38am:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-claims-historic-victory-says-we-sent-irans-nuclear-program-down-the-drain/

Netanyahu claims ‘historic victory,’ says
‘we sent Iran’s nuclear program down the drain’


I say:

Now Israel is in a position that they can't complain anymore
about Iran's nuclear weapons program -
it's all destroyed.    :)


Maybe not?

US strikes only set back Iran's nuclear program by a few months, leaked intelligence says


Quote:
US media reports say leaked intelligence has cast doubt on US President Donald Trump's assertion that Iran's nuclear facilities have been obliterated.

A preliminary assessment reportedly found the weekend strikes only set back the country's nuclear program by a few months.

Details of the report, by the Pentagon's intelligence arm, were provided to CNN and The New York Times. The White House criticised the assessment as "flat-out wrong" and said it had been leaked by a "low-level loser".

According to multiple unnamed sources cited by the outlets, the assessment also found:

The bombings sealed off the entrances to two of the three targeted facilities but did not collapse their underground buildings.

Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium was not destroyed. Some of it may have been moved to secret nuclear sites.

The strikes were estimated to have delayed the nuclear program by less than six months


"Low-level loser". Must have been Trump who said that.

[quote]Mr Trump has been critical of media coverage questioning the effectiveness of the strikes.

"Those pilots hit their targets, those targets were obliterated and the pilots should be given credit," he said on Tuesday, local time.

"These cable networks are real losers."


Yep, it'd definitely be Trump.  ::)


The illegal US attacks on Iran did little more than blow a few doors off their hinges and break a few windows.

Another Trump failure.[/quote]

A direct hit with a bunker-buster?

The actual results should be revealed by investigative journalists soon. 


Quote:
If it was as successful as the rapist and convicted felon claimed, why did Israel have to attack Fordow again?


Because Netanyahu wants to keep fighting Iran at great expense to innocent Iranian lives, given the Iranian theocracy's kill rate in Israel is minimal.


Quote:
This had done nothing to deter Iran - quite the opposite.

Trump and his war criminal buddy have made the world a much more dangerous place now.


Wrong, the Islamist f**kwits in Iran have been taught they can't have a nuclear weapon -  unlike N. Korea who simply ignored UNSC rulings; Trump has enforced what the UNSC couldn't, despite the fact the UNSC is supposed to maintain the "rules based  order".


Quote:
When the terrorist attacks start on US soil, will he blame Hillary?


Maybe, but Israel will have to face demands for a 2 state solution, Israel being largely responsible for Islamist terrorism, as Bin Laden himself told us. 

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2025 at 11:58am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 11:53am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:51am:
Vile lefties want war and death just so they can blame Trump

Iran-Israel war live updates: Benjamin Netanyahu claims 'historic win' as Iran-Israel ceasefire appears to hold

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-25/iran-israel-war-live-updates-june-25/105456152?utm_campaign=abc_news_web&utm_content=link&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_news_web


You say that, but really, all I, and I can only speak for myself here, actually want is for Trump to genuinely achieve what he's already parading around as a victory.

I think we're all sick and tired of his lies about his accomplishments and achievements, espeically when in this case there are global impacts, not so much just the people in the US who suffer.

Considering they were still bombing each other after his ceasefire announcement, it wasn't exactly an inspiring start.

But so far, so good, and it may genuinely hold this time, because all three players have something to gain now.

Trump can claim he set back Iran's nuclear program, Israel can claim it weakened a key regional adversary, and Iran can claim survival and the ability to push back against far stronger military powers.

How much of that is objectively true almost doesn't matter, it's about optics, about feeding the loyalists, whether they're Israel's, Iran's, or Trump's.

I genuinely hope it works. I genuinely hope we see an end to the needless deaths of both Iranians and Israelis. I just wish that same effort extended to the civilians in Gaza, who always seem to be excluded from the peace calculus.

What worries me most, though, is that while all this plays out, while the West is laser-focused here, and especially if it flares up again because Trump blurts out something reckless, Putin will seize the distraction and hit Ukraine even harder.


Yep.

Excellent post.

You can speak for me too.

I genuinely wish for Trump to succeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t24abORdwA


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Belgarion on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:00pm
There should have been no ceasefire. There have been numerous ceasefires previously and the only beneficiaries are the Islamic terrorists who use the respite to regroup and rearm, ready for the next go around.  Israel and the US should keep pushing until the Iranian regime collapses.

Meanwhile, Trump has given the best analysis of the Middle Eastern situation ever recorded  :)
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/trump-video-swears-live-tv-f-bomb-israel-iran-ceasefire

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:08pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:00pm:
There should have been no ceasefire.
There have been numerous ceasefires previously and the only beneficiaries are the Islamic terrorists who use the respite to regroup and rearm, ready for the next go around.


Why did Trump insist on one then?


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:19pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:00pm:
There should have been no ceasefire. There have been numerous ceasefires previously and the only beneficiaries are the Islamic terrorists who use the respite to regroup and rearm, ready for the next go around.  Israel and the US should keep pushing until the Iranian regime collapses.

Meanwhile, Trump has given the best analysis of the Middle Eastern situation ever recorded  :)
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/trump-video-swears-live-tv-f-bomb-israel-iran-ceasefire



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by thegreatdivide on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:27pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:00pm:
There should have been no ceasefire.


Easy for an armchair commentator to say, when innocent Iranains were dying at 20 times the rate of Israelis.

Trump has got a life-saving ceasefire - which he can't do with Russia, (or China), because the outcome of a US conflict with either of them is uncertain - unlike a conflict between the US and any other nation on the planet.

The question is: how many suicidal Islamists with power exist?

And what of Israel, the source of Islamist terrorism, as Bin Laden himself told us?

Exposing the egregious role of the competing "scriptures of the Book", to end Israel's illegal occupation of the WB following Israel's "Promised Land" mythology, is a necessity, short of Trump imposing UNSC rulings - which he won't do in this case owing to his '2nd Coming' base in the US.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:37pm
The war is over and Trump will get his Nobel Peace Prize:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-nominated-nobel-peace-prize-over-iran-israel-ceasefire-deal

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:49pm

Iran can now play games with the IAEA -
they can say the 400kg of enriched Uranium is in the worst collapsed underground location
where 1000s of tons of earth is covering it -
go find and if it's not there after 1 year of looking they can say –
well it must have been at another location.  :)

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:49pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:37pm:
The war is over and Trump will get his Nobel Peace Prize:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-nominated-nobel-peace-prize-over-iran-israel-ceasefire-deal


You keep saying that...

How do you measure the war being over?

A cease-fire is just that, a cease-fire. 

There has been no peace treaty, no unconditional surrender, no unilateral declaration etc, so what do you think needs to happen to declare the war over and credit Trump with fixing the mess he created with a Nobel Peace Prize?

Will he have to return it if hostilities resume?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:50pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:49pm:
Iran can now play games with the IAEA -
they can say the 400kg of enriched Uranium is in the worst collapsed underground location
where 1000s of tons of earth is covering it -
go find and if it's not there after 1 year of looking they can say –
well it must have been at another location.  :)


Oh, so Trump made things worse?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:51pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:37pm:
The war is over and Trump will get his Nobel Peace Prize:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-nominated-nobel-peace-prize-over-iran-israel-ceasefire-deal


You keep saying that...

How do you measure the war being over?

A cease-fire is just that, a cease-fire. 

There has been no peace treaty, no unconditional surrender, no unilateral declaration etc, so what do you think needs to happen to declare the war over and credit Trump with fixing the mess he created with a Nobel Peace Prize?

Will he have to return it if hostilities resume?



I already explained that.



Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:38am:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-claims-historic-victory-says-we-sent-irans-nuclear-program-down-the-drain/

Netanyahu claims ‘historic victory,’ says
‘we sent Iran’s nuclear program down the drain’


I say:

Now Israel is in a position that they can't complain anymore
about Iran's nuclear weapons program -
it's all destroyed.    :)



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:52pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:49pm:
Iran can now play games with the IAEA -
they can say the 400kg of enriched Uranium is in the worst collapsed underground location
where 1000s of tons of earth is covering it -
go find and if it's not there after 1 year of looking they can say –
well it must have been at another location.  :)


Oh, so Trump made things worse?



Basically yes.

Iran has the Uranium goodies and they have spare centrifuges -
so they can proceed with their bomb.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:52pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:49pm:
Iran can now play games with the IAEA -
they can say the 400kg of enriched Uranium is in the worst collapsed underground location
where 1000s of tons of earth is covering it -
go find and if it's not there after 1 year of looking they can say –
well it must have been at another location.  :)


Oh, so Trump made things worse?



Basically yes.


Wow!

Who would have thought?


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:51pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:37pm:
The war is over and Trump will get his Nobel Peace Prize:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-nominated-nobel-peace-prize-over-iran-israel-ceasefire-deal


You keep saying that...

How do you measure the war being over?

A cease-fire is just that, a cease-fire. 

There has been no peace treaty, no unconditional surrender, no unilateral declaration etc, so what do you think needs to happen to declare the war over and credit Trump with fixing the mess he created with a Nobel Peace Prize?

Will he have to return it if hostilities resume?



I already explained that.



Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:38am:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-claims-historic-victory-says-we-sent-irans-nuclear-program-down-the-drain/

Netanyahu claims ‘historic victory,’ says
‘we sent Iran’s nuclear program down the drain’


I say:

Now Israel is in a position that they can't complain anymore
about Iran's nuclear weapons program -
it's all destroyed.    :)


Interesting.

So, to hand Trump this so-called victory, we apparently have to trust Israel’s word that Iran’s uranium enrichment capability was the catalyst for the conflict, trust that it’s now been destroyed, and trust that Israel will simply pack up and not strike again.

That’s a hell of a lot of blind faith required just to let Trump claim he ended the war.

It also gives a lot of weight to the argument that Trump's decision to tear up the JCPOA is exactly what triggered Iran's decision to stop complying with the IAEA and the JCPOA terms, not just stopping uranium enrichment but dismantling their capability altogether.

Should Trump really be celebrated for stopping a conflict where he's the one who caused it? It's like handing out medals to arsonists for putting out their own fires.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:07pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:02pm:
Interesting.

So, to hand Trump this so-called victory, we apparently have to trust Israel’s word that Iran’s uranium enrichment capability was the catalyst for the conflict, trust that it’s now been destroyed, and trust that Israel will simply pack up and not strike again.

That’s a hell of a lot of blind faith required just to let Trump claim he ended the war.

It also gives a lot of weight to the argument that Trump's decision to tear up the JCPOA is exactly what triggered Iran's decision to stop complying with the IAEA and the JCPOA terms, not just stopping uranium enrichment but dismantling their capability altogether.

Should Trump really be celebrated for stopping a conflict he's the one who caused? It's like handing out medals to arsonists for putting out their own fires.



You can blame Bibi -

he said

‘we sent Iran’s nuclear program down the drain’

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Belgarion on Jun 25th, 2025 at 3:15pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:27pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:00pm:
There should have been no ceasefire.


Easy for an armchair commentator to say, when innocent Iranains were dying at 20 times the rate of Israelis.

Trump has got a life-saving ceasefire - which he can't do with Russia, (or China), because the outcome of a US conflict with either of them is uncertain - unlike a conflict between the US and any other nation on the planet.

The question is: how many suicidal Islamists with power exist?

And what of Israel, the source of Islamist terrorism, as Bin Laden himself told us?

Exposing the egregious role of the competing "scriptures of the Book", to end Israel's illegal occupation of the WB following Israel's "Promised Land" mythology, is a necessity, short of Trump imposing UNSC rulings - which he won't do in this case owing to his '2nd Coming' base in the US.


If you are concerned about the persecution of Muslims then you will no doubt be upset by Chinas treatment of the Uyghurs, If the occupation of the West Bank bothers you then you must also question Chinas illegal occupation of Tibet...... ::)    

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by ProudKangaroo on Jun 25th, 2025 at 3:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:07pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:02pm:
Interesting.

So, to hand Trump this so-called victory, we apparently have to trust Israel’s word that Iran’s uranium enrichment capability was the catalyst for the conflict, trust that it’s now been destroyed, and trust that Israel will simply pack up and not strike again.

That’s a hell of a lot of blind faith required just to let Trump claim he ended the war.

It also gives a lot of weight to the argument that Trump's decision to tear up the JCPOA is exactly what triggered Iran's decision to stop complying with the IAEA and the JCPOA terms, not just stopping uranium enrichment but dismantling their capability altogether.

Should Trump really be celebrated for stopping a conflict he's the one who caused? It's like handing out medals to arsonists for putting out their own fires.



You can blame Bibi -

he said

‘we sent Iran’s nuclear program down the drain’


You're missing the point, Bobbi, and I'd wager it's deliberate.

The reason Bibi had to act in the first place is because Trump tore up the JCPOA, a deal that was actually working, with Iran stopping its enrichment and dismantling its capability, as confirmed by the IAEA.

If Trump had simply done nothing, that progress would have continued, and Israel would have had no need to kick off new hostilities or airstrikes.

Which is why so many, myself included, are baffled that we're even entertaining the idea of Trump being rewarded for scrambling to put out the fire he lit himself.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Dnarever on Jun 25th, 2025 at 5:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:07pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 1:02pm:
Interesting.

So, to hand Trump this so-called victory, we apparently have to trust Israel’s word that Iran’s uranium enrichment capability was the catalyst for the conflict, trust that it’s now been destroyed, and trust that Israel will simply pack up and not strike again.

That’s a hell of a lot of blind faith required just to let Trump claim he ended the war.

It also gives a lot of weight to the argument that Trump's decision to tear up the JCPOA is exactly what triggered Iran's decision to stop complying with the IAEA and the JCPOA terms, not just stopping uranium enrichment but dismantling their capability altogether.

Should Trump really be celebrated for stopping a conflict he's the one who caused? It's like handing out medals to arsonists for putting out their own fires.



You can blame Bibi -

he said

‘we sent Iran’s nuclear program down the drain’


There very likely is no Iran’s nuclear program except for power supply, just illegal bombing for no reason.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2025 at 6:40pm
You can't make this sh!t up.

Meanwhile - the Yanks are selling nuclear weapons to other countries:

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/uk-buy-fighter-jets-capable-carrying-tactical-nuclear-weapons-2025-06-25/


UK to buy fighter jets capable of carrying tactical nuclear weapons

June 25, 2025

The U.S. will supply B61 tactical nuclear weapons for use on the planes
as part of a plan for Britain to take on more responsibility for European security,
said a British official who declined to be named.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B61_nuclear_bomb

According to the Federation of American Scientists in 2012,
the roughly 400 B61-12s will cost $28 million each.



Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2025 at 6:46pm
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-us-trump-06-25-25-intl-hnk?t=1750841053826


25 min ago

Iran’s parliament votes to suspend cooperation with UN nuclear watchdog

From CNN’s Angus Watson

Iran’s parliament voted Wednesday to suspend the country’s cooperation with UN nuclear watchdog the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), state media outlet IRIB reported.

The decision by Iran’s Islamic Consultative Assembly, known as the Majles, will now need to be ratified by the Supreme National Security Council chaired by President Masoud Pezeshkian.

Votes by the Majles, particularly when concerning foreign affairs, are often considered to be symbolic unless backed by the more powerful body handpicked by Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. On Sunday, in the wake of US strikes on Iranian nuclear sites, parliament’s national security and foreign policy committee proposed to the legislature that the Strait of Hormuz, which lies on Iran’s southern coast, should be closed. That decision would ultimately also lie with the Supreme National Security Council.

The IAEA has pushed for a resumption of its relationship with Iran, paused by Israel’s unprecedented strikes on nuclear facilities in the country beginning June 13.

On Tuesday the watchdog released a statement welcoming the end to the 12-day conflict, saying “IAEA inspectors have remained in Iran throughout the conflict and are ready to start working as soon as possible, going back to the country’s nuclear sites and verifying the inventories of nuclear material – including more than 400 kg of uranium enriched to 60% - which they last verified a few days before the Israeli air strikes began on 13 June.

CNN has reached out to the IAEA for further comment.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by JC Denton on Jun 25th, 2025 at 7:01pm
bit of hyperbole in this thread title, even in the really unlikely event of a serious war with iran that wouldn't qualify as "ww3" in the slightest

stupid meme

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Frank on Jun 25th, 2025 at 8:28pm

JC Denton wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 7:01pm:
bit of hyperbole in this thread title, even in the really unlikely event of a serious war with iran that wouldn't qualify as "ww3" in the slightest

stupid meme

Booby for ya...

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2025 at 8:32pm

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/trump-israel-sent-agents-into-irans-fordo-nuclear-site-after-us-strikes/

Trump: Israel sent agents into Iran’s Fordo nuclear site after US strikes
‘and they said it was total obliteration’


Israel sent agents into Iran’s Fordo nuclear site after US strikes earlier this week, US President Donald Trump tells reporters at the NATO summit in The Hague.

“You know they have guys that go in there after the hit, and they said it was total obliteration,” says Trump.

“Israel is doing a report on it now, I understand, and I was told that they said it was total obliteration.”

“I believe it was total obliteration,” says Trump, “and I believe they didn’t have a chance to get anything out because we acted fast.”

The bombs “landed precisely where they were supposed to,” adds US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. “Flawless mission, right down where we needed to enter… It was devastation underneath Fordo.”

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Daves2017 on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:15pm
I just hope that the war is over

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2025 at 10:26pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:15pm:
I just hope that the war is over



Me too and Iran will think twice before enriching Uranium now.

This war must have cost them $1 trillion in damage.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by JC Denton on Jun 27th, 2025 at 2:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 10:26pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:15pm:
I just hope that the war is over



Me too and Iran will think twice before enriching Uranium now.

This war must have cost them $1 trillion in damage.


not even close lol

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Jasin on Jun 27th, 2025 at 2:42pm
Great Britain announced this week that it is officially 'in Wartime'.
Which we are.

Hopefully Australia will draft all these incoming Indians, East Asians and Moslems that have flooded in this past decade.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27th, 2025 at 3:08pm

JC Denton wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 2:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 10:26pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 9:15pm:
I just hope that the war is over



Me too and Iran will think twice before enriching Uranium now.

This war must have cost them $1 trillion in damage.


not even close lol



You think it's more than $1 trillion?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27th, 2025 at 3:44pm
Just as an aside.


There is still the Russian operated Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant in Iran.
If the spent fuel was ever diverted it could have Plutonium extracted from it -
however for now:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushehr_Nuclear_Power_Plant


Quote:
The plant is to be operated by Russian specialists.
Russia also provides the nuclear fuel for the plant,
and spent fuel is sent back to Russia.


Plutonium is a far more useful element for making nuclear weapons -
most of them use Plutonium.


Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Jasin on Jun 27th, 2025 at 4:24pm
Think of all the single and lonely young women in Melbourne you can comfort as Big Daddy Bobby, while all the young men are gone off to war.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27th, 2025 at 4:33pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 27th, 2025 at 4:24pm:
Think of all the single and lonely young women in Melbourne you can comfort as Big Daddy Bobby,
while all the young men are gone off to war.



I could offer spiritual help?

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 28th, 2025 at 1:51pm

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/from-90-to-65-israels-interception/


From 90% To 65% —

Israel’s Interception Rate Goes Down Big Time;


IAF Expert Decodes Why IDF’s SAMs Are Leaking Missiles

By Vijainder K Thakur -June 20, 2025


NBC News, citing a senior Israeli intelligence official, reported that only about 65% of Iranian missiles were intercepted in the past 24 hours, significantly lower than the nearly 90% interception rate the day before.

Several other outlets have echoed NBC’s report. Earlier, The New York Times reported that Iran had fired around 400 missiles, with nearly 40 evading interception and striking Israeli neighborhoods—implying a 90% interception rate.

Impact of Iranian Hypersonic Missiles
Newsweek reports that Iran has deployed hypersonic missiles, which are particularly difficult to intercept due to their high speed and maneuverability. These missiles significantly reduce the time available for Israel’s air defense systems to respond.

A senior Israeli intelligence official confirmed that the hypersonic missiles have indeed shortened the response window for Israel’s air defense forces.

“If earlier we received a warning about a launch 10–11 minutes before impact, today’s morning attacks gave us only 6–7 minutes to prepare,” he said.




Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jun 29th, 2025 at 8:58pm

Why North Korea Helping Iran with Nukes?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdV9jA6Cx84

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by thegreatdivide on Jun 30th, 2025 at 4:32pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 3:15pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:27pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 25th, 2025 at 12:00pm:
There should have been no ceasefire.


Easy for an armchair commentator to say, when innocent Iranains were dying at 20 times the rate of Israelis.

Trump has got a life-saving ceasefire - which he can't do with Russia, (or China), because the outcome of a US conflict with either of them is uncertain - unlike a conflict between the US and any other nation on the planet.

The question is: how many suicidal Islamists with power exist?

And what of Israel, the source of Islamist terrorism, as Bin Laden himself told us?

Exposing the egregious role of the competing "scriptures of the Book", to end Israel's illegal occupation of the WB following Israel's "Promised Land" mythology, is a necessity, short of Trump imposing UNSC rulings - which he won't do in this case owing to his '2nd Coming' base in the US.


If you are concerned about the persecution of Muslims then you will no doubt be upset by Chinas treatment of the Uyghurs, If the occupation of the West Bank bothers you then you must also question Chinas illegal occupation of Tibet...... ::)    


No, I'm not concerned with re-education and employment of separatist terrorist Muslim fundamentalists in Xinjiang (a small minority of the Moslems in Xinjiang), which is a Chinese province.

Ditto for Tibet:

(google)

"While Tibet had periods of de facto independence, especially from 1912 to 1950, all countries officially recognize Tibet as part of the People's Republic of China. China asserts sovereignty based on the 17-Point Agreement signed in 1951, while Tibetan independence advocates argue it was signed under duress. The international community generally accepts China's claim, though some acknowledge Tibet's unique history and culture.

1912-1950  was part of the "century of Chinese humiliation" at the hands of Western powers.

And there is no religious persecution in China, provided adherents don't promote separatism or overthrow of the CCP.

And fortunately a former leader of the KMT in Taiwan wants peaceful reunification with the mainland, as does Xi. (The DPP "democracy=freedom" fools in Taiwan only won 40% of the vote in the recent elections)

The West is being forced into another crippling arms race - keeping the poor poor, because of blind "freedom values" ideologues in Taiwan which Washington wants to exploit, to hinder China's rise.





Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Jasin on Jun 30th, 2025 at 5:15pm
I've never really been bought into the whole Free Tibet thing.
Beyond not being Han, more closely related to Ainu and that old Haplotype that spawned the pre Carpentaria Aborigines to those Andaman Islanders. Tibet has always been China. Besides the Buddhists ripping off the peasantry and herders like they did long ago. The only real future it has on that remote plateau is a future in Tourism.

As for Taiwan? Again, I didn't buy into that Biden/Democrat promo of undermining a one China future with democracy defiance. I knew the remaining Nationals considered Taiwan as still China and Xi has worked that Taiwan can remain as Nationalists if the strengthen the bond with mainland. I mean, why bother taking it by force, when it is open to binary coexistence? Why bother turning into Gaza for no real economic advantage?
The Democrat Americans would rather sacrifice the lives of millions of Taiwanese for the sake of trying to prevent the inevitable in a peaceful way, just to protect their own selfish interests there.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by thegreatdivide on Jul 1st, 2025 at 12:05pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 30th, 2025 at 5:15pm:
Besides the Buddhists ripping off the peasantry and herders like they did long ago. The only real future it has on that remote plateau is a future in Tourism.
.

Exactly; and no other nation would have made Lhasa accessible to the world  via high-speed rail from China (an incredible engineering feat); the backward Tibetans would never have done it alone.


Quote:
As for Taiwan? Again, I didn't buy into that Biden/Democrat promo of undermining a one China future with democracy defiance. I knew the remaining Nationals considered Taiwan as still China and Xi has worked that Taiwan can remain as Nationalists if the strengthen the bond with mainland. I mean, why bother taking it by force, when it is open to binary coexistence? Why bother turning into Gaza for no real economic advantage?
The Democrat Americans would rather sacrifice the lives of millions of Taiwanese for the sake of trying to prevent the inevitable in a peaceful way, just to protect their own selfish interests there.


Spot on.

Not sure about Trump's views on the matter, though.

I suspect he prefers an arms race as deterrence, rather than actually fighting a war whose outcome is uncertain, or very costly -even more costly than an arms race, the burden of which Trump can force other like-minded nations to share.

Title: Re: WW3 could start in 2 days:
Post by Bobby. on Jul 3rd, 2025 at 11:29am
The question is -
will Bibi want them?


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-lawmakers-propose-giving-israel-access-to-bunker-busting-bombs-stealth-bombers-in-bipartisan-bill/


US lawmakers propose giving Israel access to bunker-busting bombs,
stealth bombers in bipartisan bill



Today, 12:01 am

Two US lawmakers, a Republican and a Democrat, have presented a bill that, if passed, would give Israel access to the bunker-busting bombs and stealth bombers used by the US in its strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities last month.

The bill, put forward by Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ) and Rep. Mike Lawler (R-NY), would give the US president the authority to transfer a supply of the 3,000-pound bunker-busting bombs and the B-2 stealth bombers to Israel in the event that Iran continues working on developing a nuclear weapon.

The US dropped more than a dozen of these bombs on the Fordo and Natanz underground nuclear facilities on June 22, amid Israel’s 12-day war with Iran.

While Israel struck hundreds of other nuclear and military targets across the Islamic Republic, it was unable to target these underground sites, as it lacks the weapons and planes needed for such a strike.

Accordingly, the bipartisan Bunker Buster Act would authorize the US to “take actions to ensure Israel is prepared for all contingencies if Iran seeks to develop a nuclear weapon.”

The bill has been proposed by Gottheimer twice previously, first in 2022 and then in 2024. It did not progress beyond the House floor either time.

“Iran is the world’s leading state sponsor of terror and is responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans,” he writes on X. “As Iran rebuilds its nuclear program, we must maintain maximum deterrence.”

“My bipartisan Bunker Buster Act will give Israel the tools she needs to deter Iranian aggression and take out their underground nuclear sites — strengthening US national security.”

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