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Message started by MeisterEckhart on Jun 4th, 2025 at 9:46am

Title: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 4th, 2025 at 9:46am
There's something hypocritical, schizophrenic even, about the attitude of some Australians towards using c~~t in general parlance, given Australian culture allows for its use without any regard to the offensive effect it would necessarily have in any other culture within the Anglosphere.

Australians can be good c**ts, funny c**ts, poor c**ts, lucky c**ts, strong c**ts... name the adjective, in Australian lingo, c~~t can usually follow it... almost as if it were a formal grammatical rule.

In a cultural lingo, so established - one that uses c~~t more times in a week than Americans and Canadians combined would use it in a year - it's more than hypocritical to feign offence to its use at all... particularly when f**kwit, f**kknuckle, f**khead, f**kstick, &etc can pass by without a second thought.

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Carl D on Jun 4th, 2025 at 9:53am
I've always been amused with the forum word censor substituting "front bottom" for the C-word.

Of course, a few members have found a way around the word censor. Hint: use the Quote button for their posts and you'll see how they do it.

(I wonder who was the first to discover that particular 'bug' and how they did it? I have a strong suspicion a bit of mistyping may have been involved).

:)

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 4th, 2025 at 10:04am

Carl D wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 9:53am:
I've always been amused with the forum word censor substituting "front bottom" for the C-word.

It's almost infantile in its effect...

To mask the use of a liberally used term in Australia, by a term that would not be out of place in a pre-teens movie, probably says more about the moderators than the posters.

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 4th, 2025 at 10:12am
And nevermind the supreme irony of the word f**k being replaced by the word, bugger!

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Daves2017 on Jun 4th, 2025 at 10:27am
I always find it amusing when someone says “Australian Culture “?

Is that not the definition of an “ oxymoron “.

If I can ask, what does it mean “ your working like a Navi “?

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 4th, 2025 at 10:34am

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 10:27am:
If I can ask, what does it mean “ your working like a Navi “?

Not used much anymore...

Navvy once referred to a canal builder (a 'navigator'), then to a hard-working unskilled labourer.


Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 4th, 2025 at 10:37am
More egregious than any hypocrisy over the use of the word c~~t, is the acceptance of the n-word by some Australians when used as an ethnic slur.


Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 4th, 2025 at 10:41am

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 10:27am:
I always find it amusing when someone says “Australian Culture “?

Is that not the definition of an “ oxymoron “.

Why oxymoronic?

Every other nationality can identify Australian cultural mores, so why not Australians?

Does culture only apply to those nationalities whose citizens produce operas?

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Daves2017 on Jun 4th, 2025 at 12:51pm
At best “ Australian culture “ is a bastardisation of dozens of other countries cultures.

At middle it’s “ throw a shrimp on the Barbe “.

And at its heart is the simple, mentally unstable convict from England and Ireland.

Of course many levels between these points exist but “ Australian culture “ is really a very funny concept to many more sophisticated and older nations.


Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 4th, 2025 at 12:55pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 12:51pm:
At best “ Australian culture “ is a bastardisation of dozens of other countries cultures.

At middle it’s “ throw a shrimp on the Barbe “.

And at its heart is the simple, mentally unstable convict from England and Ireland.

Of course many levels between these points exist but “ Australian culture “ is really a very funny concept to many more sophisticated and older nations.

So, you'd say the Kiwis, Canadians, Americans, the Hispanic South Americans have no respective culture(s) either, then?


Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Daves2017 on Jun 4th, 2025 at 1:32pm
No, you just suggested that not I.

Feel free to expand and explain your thoughts?

Why do  you suggest  they have no culture ?

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by John Smith on Jun 4th, 2025 at 1:38pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 10:12am:
And nevermind the supreme irony of the word f**k being replaced by the word, bugger!



Maybe Fd is a closet homosexual? he seems to prefer bugger to f**k :D

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Jasin on Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:21pm
I found the overuse of it in Game of Thrones tiring on the ears.
But I gather it's a British thing to say often, especially when they have to put up with all those Moslems, Hindus and other C###s in their country now.

A great song by Melbourne band TISM
"I might be a C###, but I'm not a f##king C### (at least)"
They highlight a big difference.  :D

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:27pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 1:32pm:
No, you just suggested that not I.

Feel free to expand and explain your thoughts?

Why do  you suggest  they have no culture ?

I'm suggesting that, by your reckoning of Australian culture, then the Kiwis, Canadians, Americans, and the Hispanic South Americans have no respective culture(s) either, given they're also young cultures spawned largely from European ones, within the last 300 to 500 years.


Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Daves2017 on Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:34pm
I think you have confused my reckoning and made a very broad statement of your own that your attempting to pass of as my own.

Why do you believe by your interpretation of my reckoning I believe the numerous nations you named have no cultures when I never made either a claim or speculating on those nations?

Your imagination is fantastic!

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:45pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:34pm:
Why do you believe by your interpretation of my reckoning I believe the numerous nations you named have no cultures when I never made either a claim or speculating on those nations?

What part of 'bastardisation of dozens of other countries' cultures', as you pit it in your characterisation of "Australian culture" (your quotation marks), would not also apply to Kiwis, Canadians, Americans and Hispanic South Americans?

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 12:51pm:
At best “ Australian culture “ is a bastardisation of dozens of other countries cultures.

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Jasin on Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:47pm
"Fair Dinkum" a Chinese saying "Fair Gold".

Australian verbal culture has adopted a lot.
Look at the Media and newspapers. They use Jail from America, rather than the traditionally established GAOL that was already established here.

As a Second Nations person. I demand the return to Gaol from the invader Jail word.

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:52pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:47pm:
"Fair Dinkum" a Chinese saying "Fair Gold".

Australian verbal culture has adopted a lot.
Look at the Media and newspapers. They use Jail from America, rather than the traditionally established GAOL that was already established here.

As a Second Nations person. I demand the return to Gaol from the invader Jail word.

Jail is derived from French.

And if you were using gaol as originally pronounced, you'd pronounce it with a hard g, as in gale.


Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Jun 4th, 2025 at 3:00pm
cont of a thing to do...

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Jasin on Jun 4th, 2025 at 3:00pm
Of course it's French. America has been pumping out their 'dependence' on all things French in their Politics, Italian in their Media and the majority of their population is descended from Germanics (superior white supremacists?)... all three a dependence from their independence from anything British.

As for the G in Gaol being pronounced like in the name Gayle or Gale force winds. I think you are correct, but I think that pronunciation got locked up a very long time ago. Sounding Jaol, due to the Franco-American intrusion.

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 4th, 2025 at 3:06pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 3:00pm:
Sounding Jaol, due to the Franco-American intrusion.

More like the effect Norman French had on English in England.

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Jasin on Jun 4th, 2025 at 3:11pm
Ah yes. You're quite right there.

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Daves2017 on Jun 4th, 2025 at 3:45pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:45pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:34pm:
Why do you believe by your interpretation of my reckoning I believe the numerous nations you named have no cultures when I never made either a claim or speculating on those nations?

What part of 'bastardisation of dozens of other countries' cultures', as you pit it in your characterisation of "Australian culture" (your quotation marks), would not also apply to Kiwis, Canadians, Americans and Hispanic South Americans?

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 12:51pm:
At best “ Australian culture “ is a bastardisation of dozens of other countries cultures.


Unfortunately I not lived or visited any of those countries long enough to be able too form a opinion of their “ culture “.

Sadly I am simply not a expert on the culture of the nations you named and I can’t answer your question.

How much time have you spent living or visiting these countries that allowed you to develop the view of their culture that I must believe they are the same as “Australian culture “?

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 20th, 2025 at 10:36am
Not that it would surprise any Australian, but the 'c-word' can only be used in a diminutive and endearing sense when used according to the unwritten Australian rules of fraternal context and then only when modified by select adjectives, such as funny, happy, poor, sad and, to a lesser degree, little, angry, stroppy, pathetic; otherwise, it maintains its status, as it does throughout the Anglosphere, as the most insulting...

In a non-fraternal context, say, written, the terms 'dumbarse' and 'dumb f~cker' are far less insulting than dumb 'c~nt'.

The unwritten contextual rule currently still holds in Australia, even though many comedians and ordinary Australians often promote the notion that it can be used interchangably with the likes of arse and f~ck(er).


Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Leroy on Jun 20th, 2025 at 10:42am
In Australia the word most people avoid is "moist". Heathens in other cuntries use it all the time.

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Leroy on Jun 20th, 2025 at 10:43am

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 3:45pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:45pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:34pm:
Why do you believe by your interpretation of my reckoning I believe the numerous nations you named have no cultures when I never made either a claim or speculating on those nations?

What part of 'bastardisation of dozens of other countries' cultures', as you pit it in your characterisation of "Australian culture" (your quotation marks), would not also apply to Kiwis, Canadians, Americans and Hispanic South Americans?

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 12:51pm:
At best “ Australian culture “ is a bastardisation of dozens of other countries cultures.


Unfortunately I not lived or visited any of those countries long enough to be able too form a opinion of their “ culture “.

Sadly I am simply not a expert on the culture of the nations you named and I can’t answer your question.

How much time have you spent living or visiting these countries that allowed you to develop the view of their culture that I must believe they are the same as “Australian culture “?


As an expert on Australian culture your research has not been extensive enough to study other cultures.

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Gnads on Jun 20th, 2025 at 11:27am

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 10:27am:
I always find it amusing when someone says “Australian Culture “?

Is that not the definition of an “ oxymoron “.

If I can ask, what does it mean “ your working like a Navi “?



So you saying there is no Australian culture?

I know you have trouble spelling so I'll help you out here.

The word is "navvy" - it is a word still used because it has a railway connection.

Trackworkers/laborers are/were known as Navvys.

Know for the tedious work done in railway line construction and maintenance in all weathers... especially in the heat. Hardwork = working like a navvy.

Mostly all called trackworkers now & in smaller numbers because of mechanisation.

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Gnads on Jun 20th, 2025 at 11:31am

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 1:32pm:
No, you just suggested that not I.

Feel free to expand and explain your thoughts?

Why do  you suggest  they have no culture ?


He didn't suggest they have no culture - you did.

In saying that are you saying you also have no culture?

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Gnads on Jun 20th, 2025 at 11:41am

Jasin wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:21pm:
I found the overuse of it in Game of Thrones tiring on the ears.
But I gather it's a British thing to say often, especially when they have to put up with all those Moslems, Hindus and other C###s in their country now.

A great song by Melbourne band TISM
"I might be a C###, but I'm not a f##king C### (at least)"
They highlight a big difference.  :D


It was used in GOT but I wouldn't say it was overused.

I use it but find it more overused by both young males & more young females.

We had 2 female supervisors at the Port of Brisbane - one was called BOAT - B itch O f A T hing.

The other was COAT - C **t O f A T hing.

My son & my mates son - both the same age - cannot put together a single sentence with out using phuk/phukking and a less spattering of the C word.

I gets a bit much when they're doing it in their mothers company & they know their mothers don't like it.

But it seems they can't speak without doing it - like it's programmed into their speech.

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Gnads on Jun 20th, 2025 at 11:45am

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:34pm:
I think you have confused my reckoning and made a very broad statement of your own that your attempting to pass of as my own.

Why do you believe by your interpretation of my reckoning I believe the numerous nations you named have no cultures when I never made either a claim or speculating on those nations?

Your imagination is fantastic!


Really? I think you're conveniently forgetting that the countries he mentioned all have similar historical founding backgrounds.

So when you tip a bucket on Australia having a lack of culture - you do the same to them.

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 20th, 2025 at 12:07pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 20th, 2025 at 11:41am:
But it seems they can't speak without doing it - like it's programmed into their speech.

No doubt the c-word has a foot in the Australian common vernacular door, and within a generation it will probably have made itself at home inside...

Currently, it's a male socioeconomic marker where it's acceptable without adjectival modifiers when used as part of a greeting... as in, 'How's it goin' c~nt?'

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 20th, 2025 at 12:08pm
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Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 20th, 2025 at 12:08pm
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Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 20th, 2025 at 1:40pm
Inspired by the YouTube comedy series, How to Talk Australians, a mate of mine (and a good 'c~nt'!), tried his hand at writing a comedy spinoff episode where an Indian immigrant, eager to assimilate, listens to two tradies' bantering with each other and cottons on to the notion that, 'How's it goin', c~nt?' is in general parlance and, not aware of its socioeconomic restrictions, uses it on his private-school-educated accountant.

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by Jake Winker Frogen on Jul 6th, 2025 at 1:24pm
Cu*t is not even considered a cuss word with my son's generation.

"Hey you crazy cu*t how you been?"

Title: Re: And Now, The C-Word...
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jul 6th, 2025 at 1:53pm

Jake Winker Frogen wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 1:24pm:
Cu*t is not even considered a cuss word with my son's generation.

"Hey you crazy cu*t how you been?"

Yep... currently when preceded by an adjective... It's generally still an insult when not.

'You're a crazy c~nt' - good,
'you're a c~nt' - bad.

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