A 51-year-old man who was allegedly hit by an e-scooter in Perth’s CBD on Saturday night has died from his injuries, a Perth court has just been told.

The man was left in a critical condition after the incident, which led to the arrest of a 24-year-old British woman who is visiting Australia on a four-month tourist visa.

Alicia Kemp will now have her charges upgraded after the man’s death, prosecutors told a magistrate this morning.

Kemp was due to appear back in court to apply for bail this morning, but the upgraded charge has meant her matter will not be dealt with until this afternoon.

Kemp was allegedly riding an e-scooter while intoxicated when it hit the man on Saturday night around 8.40pm.

Another woman was allegedly riding on the back of the scooter at the time and also suffered injuries that were not life-threatening.

Kemp has been in custody since her arrest and will appear before the magistrates court again this afternoon for a new attempt at bail.

City of Perth to suspend e-scooter hire after death of pedestrian Thanh Phan

The hiring of e-scooters is being suspended by the City of Perth as it investigates the death of pedestrian Thanh Phan, who was struck by one of them on Saturday night.

Mr Phan was the first pedestrian to die after being hit by an e-scooter in WA, and his death brings to five the number of people killed in incidents involving e-rideables in the state this year.

The Australian Medical Association says at least one e-scooter rider a day is admitted to Royal Perth Hospital's trauma unit, and is urging councils to take definitive action.

Seeing as these e-scooters have already been severely restricted in their use or banned outright in other parts of the world (for quite a few years now in some places) I was wondering how long it would take before something was done about them here.

But, in a country like Australia where money and profit comes first and peoples' health and lives are a distant second - the ongoing Covid pandemic is a perfect example - I'm sure the suspension won't last too long.

RIP Thanh Phan.

I think it’s a knee jerk reaction.

Out of the tens of thousands who use these machines daily it’s simply a matter of odds eventually someone would suffer a life ending injury.

The government at all levels have constantly pushed for the public to embrace electronic power transport and now shutting it down completely because someone using the renewable transport dies ( tragically) reaction is to immediately abandon the the whole new network?

They didn’t think eventually a event like this would ever happen and had no plans for it?

I guess you get that on the best part of $400 k a year plus a $200k pension for life the moment you quit or are sacked.

Brilliant planning by the labor government of WA.

Carl D wrote on Jun 5^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

Seeing as these e-scooters have already been severely restricted in their use or banned outright in other parts of the world (for quite a few years now in some places) I was wondering how long it would take before something was done about them here.

They waited for someone to die before they did anything about it.

"at least one e-scooter rider a day is admitted to Royal Perth Hospital's trauma unit"

And for comparison how many cyclists, motorists and motor bike riders died today in Perth?

Plus jay walkers?

It’s called life.

It’s sad and all respect too the deceased family and friends but life happens.

3 letters in today's The West Australian.

Legal action? Yes, I'm sure that's coming.

And about time.

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Little Johnny broke his arm at a local swing and slide park long ago.
The parents sued the Council for millions. For nearly 20 years, Sydney went without such urban play parks since the early 80s. They were dismantled and removed.
Then all of a sudden, with new designs of swings, climbing nets, slides and spongey fake turf, they were back.
Maybe there was a new clause in the law that prevented little Johnnie's from spoiling the fun for everyone.

It's not the machete, it's the Sudanese.
It's not the E-Scooter, it's the Rider.

Powered vehicles of any kind should not be allowed on footpaths with the exception of mobility devices and even they need to be restricted.   

Fair point.

Belgarion wrote on Jun 5^th, 2025 at 4:09pm:

Powered vehicles of any kind should not be allowed on footpaths with the exception of mobility devices and even they need to be restricted.

Not only do they ride these e-scooters on the footpaths here in Perth, but the riders are quite often intoxicated.

They're used as transport for pub crawls.

It was only a matter of time before someone was killed.

"at least one e-scooter rider a day is admitted to Royal Perth Hospital's trauma unit"

They should not be allowed on footpaths. I've seen so many elderly almost get bowled over by kids riding at full speed on paths and through the local shopping center. It's only a matter of time before someone is killed here.

Although, the police here are pretty good and confiscate them if kids are caught riding them through the center.

There was a recent death in Hastings (Vic) of a man in his 60s crossing the road when a souped up motorised push bike going so fast cctv shows…. Poor bloke.
There’s a story in news about push bikes that are not pedalled and are motorised… it’s illegal and cops on actual push bikes are clamping down on them. A lot of these bikes have been impounded.

They made Segway’s illegal… I think the company went broke?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-06/e-scooter-injury-toll-enormous-perth-hospital-trauma-chief-says/105383108


“ In short:
An "enormous" number of preventable e-scooter injuries are causing lifelong consequences for patients, Royal Perth Hospital's head of trauma services says.
It comes as the friend of a man who died in hospital this week after being hit by an e-scooter in the city's CBD says his death was preventable.
What's next?
The use of hired e-scooters is under scrutiny, with the City of Vincent joining the City of Perth in suspending them and police undertaking "state-wide targeted enforcement operations".

Should the  WA government who hired the scooter be charged with man slaughter?

The cult of safetyism

aquascoot wrote on Jun 6^th, 2025 at 3:54pm:

The cult of safetyism

Says the guy who puts on his seat belt every single time he drives the Rav4 into town.

aquascoot wrote on Jun 6^th, 2025 at 3:54pm:

The cult of safetyism

^^^^^^ the comment from dumbism

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2025 at 3:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 6th, 2025 at 3:54pm: The cult of safetyism Says the guy who puts on his seat belt every single time he drives the Rav4 into town.

I always put my seatbelt on and don’t drive until passengers have.

I don’t understand your point?

Are you suggesting people in 4wd drive so slowly in urban environments seatbelts should be optional?

Having just witnessed a new Landcruiser  taking a couple of minutes to navigate one speed bump in a shopping centre carpark I speculate your right!

What the kids do are annoying, but nothing compared to the food delivery riders.

We had dinner out at Haymarket last weekend and it was chaos, fully grown adults on large ebikes barrelling all over the footpath. I couldn't even let my 8 y/o walk by himself and had to keep him right next to me. I was just waiting for one to near miss me and see how he liked getting a coat-hanger.

Maybe we'll have some E-skoota gangs emerge. Wearing their colours  and using intimidation tactics like Cockroaches on wheels from the alleys of inner cities?

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2025 at 6:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6th, 2025 at 3:57pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 6th, 2025 at 3:54pm: The cult of safetyism Says the guy who puts on his seat belt every single time he drives the Rav4 into town. I always put my seatbelt on and don’t drive until passengers have. I don’t understand your point?

He's criticising people for wanting to be safe, yet you can bet he always wears a seatbelt when he's in a car.

Hypocrisy.

It’s out of control but it’s only been happening for the last 10 years.

You have to give our ( best paid in the world per citizen) politicians  time too do anything that would seem like leadership .

They need to look at the bribery they are receiving and how best to manage community expectations against the brown paper bags full of $$$ business will give them.

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2025 at 6:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6th, 2025 at 3:57pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 6th, 2025 at 3:54pm: The cult of safetyism Says the guy who puts on his seat belt every single time he drives the Rav4 into town. I always put my seatbelt on and don’t drive until passengers have. I don’t understand your point? !

His point is that jackass DOES put his seatbelt on whenever he drives and so is part of the very 'cult of safetyism' he criticizes

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2025 at 3:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 6th, 2025 at 3:54pm: The cult of safetyism Says the guy who puts on his seat belt every single time he drives the Rav4 into town.

Meh I ride my suzuki

Belgarion wrote on Jun 5^th, 2025 at 4:09pm:

Powered vehicles of any kind should not be allowed on footpaths with the exception of mobility devices and even they need to be restricted.

Here! Here!
Footpaths are for people on foot, before motor vehicles were invented horsemen stayed off the footpaths in towns.

aquascoot wrote on Jun 6^th, 2025 at 6:47pm:

Meh I ride my suzuki

Do you wear a helmet?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5^th, 2025 at 2:03pm:

City of Perth to suspend e-scooter hire after death of pedestrian Thanh Phan The hiring of e-scooters is being suspended by the City of Perth as it investigates the death of pedestrian Thanh Phan, who was struck by one of them on Saturday night. Mr Phan was the first pedestrian to die after being hit by an e-scooter in WA, and his death brings to five the number of people killed in incidents involving e-rideables in the state this year. The Australian Medical Association says at least one e-scooter rider a day is admitted to Royal Perth Hospital's trauma unit, and is urging councils to take definitive action.

E-scooter hire should be banned by all Councils.

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 5^th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

I think it’s a knee jerk reaction. Out of the tens of thousands who use these machines daily it’s simply a matter of odds eventually someone would suffer a life ending injury. The government at all levels have constantly pushed for the public to embrace electronic power transport and now shutting it down completely because someone using the renewable transport dies ( tragically) reaction is to immediately abandon the the whole new network? They didn’t think eventually a event like this would ever happen and had no plans for it? I guess you get that on the best part of $400 k a year plus a $200k pension for life the moment you quit or are sacked. Brilliant planning by the labor government of WA.

It's not a knee jerk reaction.

They(and e-bikes) are a menace on our footpaths, malls and roads & have been ever since they started to appear & were seized upon by the business minded as a hire to ride operation and then allowed by Councils.

Kids who never obey rules, let alone the road rules are bad enough on push bikes .... now they're zooming around on these things at up to 50/60 kph.

They don't wear helmets, they double & are all over the road & come out of nowhere. And so do a lot of the adults who use them.

Last month - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-21/summah-richards-remembered-after-fatal-laidley-e-scooter-crash/105197332

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2025 at 3:49pm:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-06/e-scooter-injury-toll-enormous-perth-hospital-trauma-chief-says/105383108 “ In short: An "enormous" number of preventable e-scooter injuries are causing lifelong consequences for patients, Royal Perth Hospital's head of trauma services says. It comes as the friend of a man who died in hospital this week after being hit by an e-scooter in the city's CBD says his death was preventable. What's next? The use of hired e-scooters is under scrutiny, with the City of Vincent joining the City of Perth in suspending them and police undertaking "state-wide targeted enforcement operations". Should the  WA government who hired the scooter be charged with man slaughter?

What are you talking about?

The WA govt didn't hire the scooter.

E-scooter hire is done by private individuals/companies.

The apply for  permission to operate to the relevant Council.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2025 at 6:45pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 6th, 2025 at 6:16pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6th, 2025 at 3:57pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 6th, 2025 at 3:54pm: The cult of safetyism Says the guy who puts on his seat belt every single time he drives the Rav4 into town. I always put my seatbelt on and don’t drive until passengers have. I don’t understand your point? He's criticising people for wanting to be safe, yet you can bet he always wears a seatbelt when he's in a car. Hypocrisy.

Like you against white people?

Carl D wrote on Jun 6^th, 2025 at 7:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 6th, 2025 at 6:47pm: Meh I ride my suzuki Do you wear a helmet?

Who cares about helmets. As long as I have had my 7th covid shot I am safe

;D
He got you there Carl  ;)

City of Vincent pulls e-scooters off streets in wake of Thanh Phan’s death in Perth CBD

A knee jerk reaction to ban them

People HAVE to commute.

Every e scooter means 1 less car.

Personally If I was a pedestrian I would prefer to be hit by a scooter then a Toyota prado.

It's all a matter of personal responsibility.

Ride the dam scooter or drive the dam car responsibly.

aquascoot wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 11:56am:

A knee jerk reaction to ban them People HAVE to commute. Every e scooter means 1 less car.

Incorrect.

These e-scooters are being used as an alternative to walking, not driving.

aquascoot wrote on Jun 6^th, 2025 at 3:54pm:

The cult of safetyism

Geez Aqua…. You say that like it’s a bad thing  :(
The population is growing with more wheels on roads/paths than ever before… there has to be more safety regs to get it through the thick sculls of many, that they are not the only ones on the roads/pathways!
There are many sports they can get into that will test their dare devilness….with safety regs of course, but that’s okay… as long as it keeps them away from mainstream people that just want to feel they have some rights to feeling safe in public.

Sophia wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 12:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 6th, 2025 at 3:54pm: The cult of safetyism Geez Aqua…. You say that like it’s a bad thing  :( The population is growing with more wheels on roads/paths than ever before… there has to be more safety regs to get it through the thick sculls of many, that they are not the only ones on the roads/pathways! There are many sports they can get into that will test their dare devilness….with safety regs of course, but that’s okay… as long as it keeps them away from mainstream people that just want to feel they have some rights to feeling safe in public.

Really?

Maybe ban climbing trees, swimming in the ocean due to sharks,
Contact sports.
Ban driving ( will happen , driverless cars are safer)
Childbirth is pretty dangerous, it will soon be possible to grow a baby in a lab, so let's ban pregnancy


Let's all just watch Netflix, get food delivered to the door,
watch porn or get an AI boyfriend ( domestic violence makes dating unsafe)

Everyone can have a long boring cowardly life and celebrate their " timid" approach to life .

Then they can lie in a nursing home, incontinent and demented and have a nurse jab them for covid, because heaven forbid,, they die.

They never really lived and that's why their death anxiety is so overwhelming  :-[ :-X

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 12:10pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 11:56am: A knee jerk reaction to ban them People HAVE to commute. Every e scooter means 1 less car. Incorrect. These e-scooters are being used as an alternative to walking, not driving.

Really, how many kids get driven to school that could ride an e scooter?
Don't you care about the planet .

All those soccer mum's in SUVs knocking over pedestrians  ::)

If E-skootas are in Mt Druitt (Mordor), I reckon a lot of coat hangers will be thrown out. Live and let die ;D

aquascoot wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 1:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 12:10pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 11:56am: A knee jerk reaction to ban them People HAVE to commute. Every e scooter means 1 less car. Incorrect. These e-scooters are being used as an alternative to walking, not driving. Really, how many kids get driven to school that could ride an e scooter? Don't you care about the planet . All those soccer mum's in SUVs knocking over pedestrians  ::)

The problem is irresponsible people:

I was knocked over by a bicycle once -
all I did was walk out of a shop and 1 second later I was flat on the pavement.
A stupid woman was riding a bicycle fast down a footpath past busy shops.
Luckily I wasn't injured.   ::)

aquascoot wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 1:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 12:10pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 11:56am: A knee jerk reaction to ban them People HAVE to commute. Every e scooter means 1 less car. Incorrect. These e-scooters are being used as an alternative to walking, not driving. Really, ...

Yes, really.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 2:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 1:29pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 12:10pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 11:56am: A knee jerk reaction to ban them People HAVE to commute. Every e scooter means 1 less car. Incorrect. These e-scooters are being used as an alternative to walking, not driving. Really, how many kids get driven to school that could ride an e scooter? Don't you care about the planet . All those soccer mum's in SUVs knocking over pedestrians  ::) The problem is irresponsible people: I was knocked over by a bicycle once - all I did was walk out of a shop and 1 second later I was flat on the pavement. A stupid woman was riding a bicycle fast down a footpath past busy shops. Luckily I wasn't injured.   ::)

Not far from me, a couple of years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQOdOgWTP-4

aquascoot wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 1:27pm:

Sophia wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 12:28pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 6th, 2025 at 3:54pm: The cult of safetyism Geez Aqua…. You say that like it’s a bad thing  :( The population is growing with more wheels on roads/paths than ever before… there has to be more safety regs to get it through the thick sculls of many, that they are not the only ones on the roads/pathways! There are many sports they can get into that will test their dare devilness….with safety regs of course, but that’s okay… as long as it keeps them away from mainstream people that just want to feel they have some rights to feeling safe in public. Really? Maybe ban climbing trees, swimming in the ocean due to sharks, Contact sports. Ban driving ( will happen , driverless cars are safer) Childbirth is pretty dangerous, it will soon be possible to grow a baby in a lab, so let's ban pregnancy Let's all just watch Netflix, get food delivered to the door, watch porn or get an AI boyfriend ( domestic violence makes dating unsafe) Everyone can have a long boring cowardly life and celebrate their " timid" approach to life . Then they can lie in a nursing home, incontinent and demented and have a nurse jab them for covid, because heaven forbid,, they die. They never really lived and that's why their death anxiety is so overwhelming  :-[ :-X

You are kind of straying off the main topic… about what is happening in main populated areas… thick heads going like the clappers with no concern for others sharing the same space.
Like what happened to Bobby walking out of a shop … now that also nearly happened to me.. missed by a whisper.
As for self lone stuff without populated areas… like climbing trees, swimming in oceans with sharks, diving, that’s a okay… self regulated with sole risk taking not involving any innocent bystanders minding their own business.
And contact sports… that’s all a group sport with all players voluntarily participating.
Get the point of the topic now?  ;)
Hey, my kids were all into physical injuries with moto-x and horse riding. But it never involved anyone else being hurt… just themselves.
Remember about taking personal responsibility like you at times mention?
That’s how we did it… hurt ourselves, but not others.
So no… I never wrapped them in cotton wool…and encouraged outdoor activities.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 2:58pm:

Not far from me, a couple of years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQOdOgWTP-4

Wow - that was quite an impact.

Lucky she wasn't killed.  :o

So it's not the Scooter, just the riders.
It's not the Machete, just the Sudanese.


50,000 people ride E-skootas safely in the cities? (Scenario)
5% probably don't. Ban the Skoota?

Maybe we should ban cars too? They kill more so.

E-Skootas are a very efficient mode of travel in traffic congested cities where even Trains and buses are looking delayed.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 3:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 2:58pm: Not far from me, a couple of years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQOdOgWTP-4 Wow - that was quite an impact. Lucky she wasn't killed.  :o

Happens every day in Perth.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 4:12pm:

Happens every day in Perth.

Jail the culprits.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 2:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 2:48pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 1:29pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 12:10pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 11:56am: A knee jerk reaction to ban them People HAVE to commute. Every e scooter means 1 less car. Incorrect. These e-scooters are being used as an alternative to walking, not driving. Really, how many kids get driven to school that could ride an e scooter? Don't you care about the planet . All those soccer mum's in SUVs knocking over pedestrians  ::) The problem is irresponsible people: I was knocked over by a bicycle once - all I did was walk out of a shop and 1 second later I was flat on the pavement. A stupid woman was riding a bicycle fast down a footpath past busy shops. Luckily I wasn't injured.   ::) Not far from me, a couple of years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQOdOgWTP-4

A couple of YEARS ago  ::)

You could put up a car strike almost every day of the week

Why are footpaths so called?

E-scooters are motor vehicles and belong on the roads, if necessary in dedicated lanes.

Interestingly trials in designated areas of e-scooters are being conducted in Sydney but only commercially owned ones may be used, private ones are illegal.
Speaks volumes about the integrity of the authorities concerned.

aquascoot wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 5:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 2:58pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 2:48pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 1:29pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 12:10pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 11:56am: A knee jerk reaction to ban them People HAVE to commute. Every e scooter means 1 less car. Incorrect. These e-scooters are being used as an alternative to walking, not driving. Really, how many kids get driven to school that could ride an e scooter? Don't you care about the planet . All those soccer mum's in SUVs knocking over pedestrians  ::) The problem is irresponsible people: I was knocked over by a bicycle once - all I did was walk out of a shop and 1 second later I was flat on the pavement. A stupid woman was riding a bicycle fast down a footpath past busy shops. Luckily I wasn't injured.   ::) Not far from me, a couple of years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQOdOgWTP-4 A couple of YEARS ago  ::) You could put up a car strike almost every day of the week

"The head of trauma services at Royal Perth Hospital told the ABC he and his team were seeing patients seriously injured by e-scooters every day"


"seriously injured by e-scooters every day"

aquascoot wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 1:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 12:10pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 11:56am: A knee jerk reaction to ban them People HAVE to commute. Every e scooter means 1 less car. Incorrect. These e-scooters are being used as an alternative to walking, not driving. Really, how many kids get driven to school that could ride an e scooter? Don't you care about the planet . All those soccer mum's in SUVs knocking over pedestrians  ::)

How is that any different to being driven to school?

They are using motorised transport.

Jasin wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 3:27pm:

So it's not the Scooter, just the riders. It's not the Machete, just the Sudanese. 50,000 people ride E-skootas safely in the cities? (Scenario) 5% probably don't. Ban the Skoota? Maybe we should ban cars too? They kill more so. E-Skootas are a very efficient mode of travel in traffic congested cities where even Trains and buses are looking delayed.

So what do you suggest?

There are not enough staff resources for Police to police the rules around e-scooters & e-bikes.

Ban the scooter - it doesn't need policing because the 5%(your 5% I think it's way more) are no longer on them.

Or ban people then there's no need for scooters? 

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 5:18pm:

Why are footpaths so called? E-scooters are motor vehicles and belong on the roads, if necessary in dedicated lanes.

Yes but all the whining softcock child spoiling parents wanted their kids to use the footpaths on their push bikes to go to school because the roads are too dangerous.

They also told their kids that if they have to use the road on their bikes to ride on the wrong side of the road against the traffic like a pedestrian is supposed to where there is no footpath.

Is it any wonder they turn into shyte drivers of vehicles after years of that indoctrination?

They need to have the basic road rules drummed into them from when they start school or before.

Gnads wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 5:41pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 3:27pm: So it's not the Scooter, just the riders. It's not the Machete, just the Sudanese. 50,000 people ride E-skootas safely in the cities? (Scenario) 5% probably don't. Ban the Skoota? Maybe we should ban cars too? They kill more so. E-Skootas are a very efficient mode of travel in traffic congested cities where even Trains and buses are looking delayed. So what do you suggest? There are not enough staff resources for Police to police the rules around e-scooters & e-bikes. Ban the scooter - it doesn't need policing because the 5%(your 5% I think it's way more) are no longer on them. Or ban people then there's no need for scooters?

I suggest look to your left.
Look to your right.
Look to your left again. :D

These Skootas are going to become more in demand for city living transport... all ridden by little yellow people.

From today's The West Australian.

One pedestrian death, now one rider death.

So, are we any closer to having these stupid machines banned or heavily restricted like what's happened in other parts of the world?

"The Cook Labor Government is focused on keeping Western Australia's growing community safe".

Yeah, right. If it wasn't for Mr. Phan's tragic death last month I guarantee nothing would have been done about this e-scooter menace.

And why is it going to take the "committee" until the end of September to report back?

Spoiler alert: I'm betting the committee's report will be quietly filed away and forgotten about after it is released. With little or no action taken, of course.

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Life has a 100 % mortality rate.

Why optimize for safety?

That's such a mediocre ambition  :'( :'( :'(

Looks like I'll have to go back to carrying my hardwood walking stick - great for spoked wheels and just the thing for a head stroke on some dangerous asshole on a scooter.

Oldebugga takes up his stance at the wicket... Scootaryda begins his long run-up to gather speed ... huge momentum developed there in that run-up.... and it's down the wicket the bowler goes full tilt at the batsman... Oldebugga plays a fine Stonewall shot... a low shot... and SCOOTARYDA IS ON THE GROUND - THE UMPIRE'S FINGER IS RAIDED - IT'S NO BALLS!!!

Wrong man?  :P

Drones kill people.
E-Scooterz just want equality.

Quote:

So, are we any closer to having these stupid machines banned or heavily restricted like what's happened in other parts of the world?

2 deaths from e scooters. There are over 1000 deaths on our roads every year.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 2:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 2:48pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 1:29pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 12:10pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 11:56am: A knee jerk reaction to ban them People HAVE to commute. Every e scooter means 1 less car. Incorrect. These e-scooters are being used as an alternative to walking, not driving. Really, how many kids get driven to school that could ride an e scooter? Don't you care about the planet . All those soccer mum's in SUVs knocking over pedestrians  ::) The problem is irresponsible people: I was knocked over by a bicycle once - all I did was walk out of a shop and 1 second later I was flat on the pavement. A stupid woman was riding a bicycle fast down a footpath past busy shops. Luckily I wasn't injured.   ::) Not far from me, a couple of years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQOdOgWTP-4

Footpath Speed limit 10kph? Should be 5kph.

More so the name of the path should be all it carries..

Foot Path! No e-scooters, no e-bikes or bicycles.

If you are not competent to ride on the road & obey traffic rules .... you should be a pedestrian only.

aquascoot wrote on Jun 7^th, 2025 at 5:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 2:58pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 2:48pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 1:29pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 12:10pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 11:56am: A knee jerk reaction to ban them People HAVE to commute. Every e scooter means 1 less car. Incorrect. These e-scooters are being used as an alternative to walking, not driving. Really, how many kids get driven to school that could ride an e scooter? Don't you care about the planet . All those soccer mum's in SUVs knocking over pedestrians  ::) The problem is irresponsible people: I was knocked over by a bicycle once - all I did was walk out of a shop and 1 second later I was flat on the pavement. A stupid woman was riding a bicycle fast down a footpath past busy shops. Luckily I wasn't injured.   ::) Not far from me, a couple of years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQOdOgWTP-4 A couple of YEARS ago  ::) You could put up a car strike almost every day of the week

The fault of idiots on bikes or scooters or the car drivers?

freediver wrote on Jul 10^th, 2025 at 9:38am:

2 deaths from e scooters. There are over 1000 deaths on our roads every year.

2 deaths (so far).

Lots of injuries and near misses though.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-06/e-scooter-injury-toll-enormous-perth-hospital-trauma-chief-says/105383108

So, again... while other parts of the world have banned or heavily restricted the use of these e-scooters places like Perth have decided to appoint a "committee" to look into it and report at the end of September.

I wonder how many more e-scooter injuries (and possibly deaths) will occur by then?

But, I didn't really expect anything less from a country like Australia where I'm sure the majority of our pollies and big business leaders would sell their own mothers for a buck if they were able to.

Gnads wrote on Jul 10^th, 2025 at 10:18am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 2:58pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 2:48pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 1:29pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 12:10pm: aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2025 at 11:56am: A knee jerk reaction to ban them People HAVE to commute. Every e scooter means 1 less car. Incorrect. These e-scooters are being used as an alternative to walking, not driving. Really, how many kids get driven to school that could ride an e scooter? Don't you care about the planet . All those soccer mum's in SUVs knocking over pedestrians  ::) The problem is irresponsible people: I was knocked over by a bicycle once - all I did was walk out of a shop and 1 second later I was flat on the pavement. A stupid woman was riding a bicycle fast down a footpath past busy shops. Luckily I wasn't injured.   ::) Not far from me, a couple of years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQOdOgWTP-4 Footpath Speed limit 10kph? Should be 5kph. More so the name of the path should be all it carries.. Foot Path! No e-scooters, no e-bikes or bicycles. If you are not competent to ride on the road & obey traffic rules .... you should be a pedestrian only.

Absolutely!

Victoria Park has many restaurants, cafes, diners etc. so, unfortunately, it has lots of Uber Eats delivery people riding up and down the main street on e-scooters and bikes.

More often than not they're on the footpath.

What about prams?

Or kids on bikes? Should we force them onto the road?

E scooters are committing Genocide.  ;D

freediver wrote on Jul 10^th, 2025 at 10:28am:

What about prams? Or kids on bikes? Should we force them onto the road?

How many speeding prams do you see flying down a footpath?

re: kids on bikes - yes ride on the road.

As all kids did when footpaths were footpaths for pedestrians & before we became the cotton wool/bubble wrap society we are today.

Kids were taught the rules of the road by their parents & at kindy & school from an early age.

Before Lolly Pop Ladies & Gents when school road crossings first became supervised it was done by a squad(Road Patrol) of primary school children from the higher grades.

One was a leader with a flag who controlled the whistle instruction and 3 others with flags stepped out onto the crossing to form a safety gauntlet across the road.

Now everything provided for them & nothing taught about responsibility.

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re: kids on bikes - yes ride on the road.

You actually want 8 year old kids forced to ride on the road? Are you scared of them or something?

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

Quote: re: kids on bikes - yes ride on the road. You actually want 8 year old kids forced to ride on the road? Are you scared of them or something?

Why not? I did. And I sure knew the rules of the road.

What part of my post did you not understand?

As for being scared of them - what sort of dumbarsed question is that?

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

Quote: re: kids on bikes - yes ride on the road. You actually want 8 year old kids forced to ride on the road? Are you scared of them or something?

They don't have to if their parents don't want them to.

Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything.

I rode my bike on the road when I was 8, and we didn't have helmets back then.

I lost school friends to asthma, cancer and domestic violence.

However, in all my years as a kid I never once lost a friend as a result of a bike accident on the road.

A footpath is for feet - people walking and people pushing prams (and wheelchairs).

It's not for motorised e-scooters, gophers, pushbikes or anything else.

Greg has a point.

It’s actually really dangerous with e-bikes at speed on footpaths.

I have zero issues with them being on the road. Totally the opposite, I embrace it, treat them like any other vehicle on the road  with added care and believe it’s actually a awesome skill that they are learning to navigate traffic and it will make them better and safer drivers when they eventually get a license.

I’m also very jealous that these weren’t around in my teenage days!!!

I’d never let my 8 year old ride on the road or footpath

Parents need to think before they buy bikes capable of high speed.

Ironically the worst behaviour I see is middle aged men on e-scooters  causing chaos on footpaths for the elderly and children.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 6:24pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:46am: Quote: re: kids on bikes - yes ride on the road. You actually want 8 year old kids forced to ride on the road? Are you scared of them or something? They don't have to if their parents don't want them to. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. I rode my bike on the road when I was 8, and we didn't have helmets back then. I lost school friends to asthma, cancer and domestic violence. However, in all my years as a kid I never once lost a friend as a result of a bike accident on the road. A footpath is for feet - people walking and people pushing prams (and wheelchairs). It's not for motorised e-scooters, gophers, pushbikes or anything else.

Not everyone lives in the quiet suburbia of the 1940s.

If you watch any of the dash cam compilation videos—I have posted a few in Critters and Gardens—you will see escooter riders doing the most incredibly dangerous manoeuvres on the roads and footpaths. Worse than push bike riders and they are no example of proper behavior!

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 9:28am:

If you watch any of the dash cam compilation videos—I have posted a few in Critters and Gardens—you will see escooter riders doing the most incredibly dangerous manoeuvres on the roads and footpaths. Worse than push bike riders and they are no example of proper behavior!

I agree. Especially children. You don't want to force them to ride pushbikes on the road.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 6:24pm:

They don't have to if their parents don't want them to. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. I rode my bike on the road when I was 8, and we didn't have helmets back then. I lost school friends to asthma, cancer and domestic violence. However, in all my years as a kid I never once lost a friend as a result of a bike accident on the road. A footpath is for feet - people walking and people pushing prams (and wheelchairs). It's not for motorised e-scooters, gophers, pushbikes or anything else.

When I was at school in the second half of the 1960's and the first three years of the 1970's I never heard of school children being hit by cars as they were crossing the road.

We were taught how to be alert and cross roads safely.

I'm pretty sure we didn't have crossing attendants then either.

Or 40km/h school zones which are literally everywhere these days.

Oh, and we also didn't have our faces glued to mobile phones instead of watching where we were going. And that's the main problem these days... not just with school children but also with adults.

This 2008 story from Britain is a perfect example.

And no doubt it's a lot worse today.

Footpaths are for feet.

Ban dogs.