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Title: Australia Has Been Lost.. 😞 Post by SerialBrain9 on May 30th, 2025 at 11:14am Quote:
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Title: Re: Australia Has Been Lost.. 😞 Post by SerialBrain9 on May 30th, 2025 at 11:14am Quote:
https://www.skynews.com.au/insights-and-analysis/exus-military-official-spears-soft-tyranny-planted-by-australias-political-leaders-who-exploited-the-covid-era-for-their-own-gain/news-story/d80dcbcc4b15884275a1f1dc8d9ad736 |
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Title: Re: Australia Has Been Lost.. 😞 Post by chimera on May 30th, 2025 at 11:36am
Australia is lost. Walk into any police station and you get a covid jab. Say 'Wuhan' and Albo locks you up after banging your head on cement. The Big Pharma grows wheat, beetroots and needles in haystacks.
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Title: Re: Australia Has Been Lost.. 😞 Post by Brian Ross on May 30th, 2025 at 2:43pm
Twilight Zone, CerealBrain9. Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Australia Has Been Lost.. 😞 Post by Gnads on May 31st, 2025 at 7:34am Brian Ross wrote on May 30th, 2025 at 2:43pm:
Imbecile Zone, PhukbrainBwyan Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Australia Has Been Lost.. 😞 Post by Ai_Took_Our_Jobs on May 31st, 2025 at 8:39am
https://colonelretjohn.substack.com/p/australia-has-been-lost
Counterarguments: Many Australians reject declinist narratives, pointing to: Strong multicultural success (despite challenges). Economic resilience compared to other nations. Democratic stability and freedoms. deepseek : 1. Immigration & Demographic Change Claim: Australia’s identity is being "eroded" by mass immigration, multiculturalism, or demographic shifts. Counterarguments: Successful Multiculturalism: Australia is often cited as one of the world’s most successful multicultural societies. Over 30% of Australians are born overseas, yet social cohesion remains high compared to many Western nations (e.g., low far-right extremism, minimal ethnic violence). Economic Benefits: Immigration fuels labor markets, especially in healthcare, construction, and tech. Population growth has long been a driver of GDP expansion. Cultural Adaptation: While tensions exist (e.g., housing competition), surveys show majority support for diversity. The "Australian identity" has always evolved—from Indigenous cultures to British colonialism to today’s pluralism. Critique of the Critique: Fear of "replacement" often ignores that most immigrants assimilate economically and culturally. Second-generation Australians typically identify strongly as Australian. Selective nostalgia overlooks past conflicts (e.g., White Australia Policy, anti-Irish/Italian prejudice). 2. Political Leadership & Governance Claim: Australia’s leaders are "weak," corrupt, or selling out national interests. Counterarguments: Stability: Australia hasn’t had a recession since 1991 (until COVID disruptions). Its institutions remain robust by global standards (e.g., rule of law, low corruption by Transparency International metrics). Policy Successes: Examples include gun control (post-Port Arthur), COVID management (low mortality despite lockdown criticisms), and renewable energy leadership (solar/wind adoption). Partisan Bias: Declinism often reflects ideological discontent (e.g., conservatives lamenting progressive wins like same-sex marriage or Voice referendums, while progressives criticize Labor/Liberal centrism). Critique of the Critique: Australia’s "chaotic" politics (e.g., frequent PM changes) hasn’t prevented policy continuity in key areas like defense (AUKUS) or economic management. Populist rhetoric ("everything is broken") ignores nuanced governance challenges faced globally (e.g., inflation, climate change). 3. Cultural Shifts ("Wokeness," Free Speech, Traditional Values) Claim: Australia is succumbing to "woke" ideology, losing free speech, or abandoning traditions. Counterarguments: Free Speech: Australia ranks 25th globally in press freedom (RSF 2024)—lower than past years but still above the U.S. or UK. Controversies (e.g., rugby player sacked for homophobic posts) reflect corporate, not government, censorship. Social Progress ≠ Collapse: Same-sex marriage (62% "Yes" vote) and Indigenous recognition debates show democracy adapting, not collapsing. Traditional Values Persist: Rural/urban divides exist, but core Aussie values (mateship, egalitarianism) endure in new forms (e.g., LGBTQ+ inclusion in ANZAC Day). Critique of the Critique: "Woke" backlash often conflates corporate PR (e.g., Pride Month marketing) with systemic oppression. Conservative fears of "losing" culture ignore that societies always evolve (e.g., 1950s Australia was far more socially restrictive). 4. Economic Concerns (Housing, Cost of Living, Inequality) Claim: Australia is becoming unaffordable due to poor policy. Counterarguments: Global Problem: Housing crises plague Canada, the UK, and NZ too—driven by low interest rates, NIMBYism, and investment demand. Australia’s median wealth remains highest globally (Credit Suisse 2023). Policy Responses: States are reforming zoning, boosting social housing, and taxing vacant properties. Progress is slow but not absent. Safety Nets: Australia’s welfare system (e.g., Medicare, unemployment benefits) cushions inequality better than the U.S. Critique of the Critique: Declinism ignores that Australia’s "crises" (e.g., housing) are worse elsewhere. The solution isn’t nostalgia but policy innovation. Conclusion: Has Australia "Been Lost"? Declinist narratives often: Overstate uniqueness (many challenges are global). Understate resilience (strong institutions, multicultural success). Cherry-pick data (ignoring progress on climate, health, tech). Alternative Framing: Australia faces real problems (housing, political distrust, climate risks) but remains one of the world’s most stable, prosperous, and livable nations. The debate isn’t about "loss" but direction: Should Australia return to an idealized past or adapt to a changing world? |
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Title: Re: Australia Has Been Lost.. 😞 Post by John Smith on May 31st, 2025 at 9:07am Quote:
^^^ code for 'the rabid right were thrown out at the last election' |
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Title: Re: Australia Has Been Lost.. 😞 Post by Jasin on May 31st, 2025 at 9:10am
It's the Tyranny of the Media Left that is in control of Australia and it's govt in power, the ALP.
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Title: Re: Australia Has Been Lost.. 😞 Post by Gnads on May 31st, 2025 at 9:13am John Smith wrote on May 31st, 2025 at 9:07am:
There's no rabid right in Australia only limp wristed wet leftoids who often act rabid. |
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Title: Re: Australia Has Been Lost.. 😞 Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Jun 1st, 2025 at 11:23pm
Australia Has Fallen - all that remains is to wait for it to begin... AlboGroup are playing it softly, softly - but they will strike soon enough.... the signs are there .... and I TOLD YOU SO!
Nazi Labor appointed by a Hindenberg Decision via preferential voting when they polled ONLY 34.7% of the vote - is not tenable as a government. We, The People, need to take back the farm and demand proper change. I recommend that we ditch preference voting - then divide up the states into areas more mutual for the people and not controlled by the numbers in the big cities, and have two senators from each New State to provide an extra dimension of protection of the rights of New States and of their people... fold the local governments into a New State government (save money - join a poo shower with friends)... Alternatively we could look at a proportional representation of party according to their vote... like Israel... Any suggestions? How about names for these as States? |
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Title: Re: Australia Has Been Lost.. 😞 Post by Frank on Jan 28th, 2026 at 8:23am Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on May 31st, 2025 at 8:39am:
‘That two people, resident here for more than 20 years, could feel justified in slaughtering 15 innocent people in the name of Islam should shake to the core any complacency that we are “the most successful multicultural nation on earth”’ Australia is not a single community, nor has it been for a long time. Rather, it is a community of separate communities, a nation of tribes – ethnic, religious and social. Decades of mass immigration, underwritten by a policy of multiculturalism so obsessed with celebrating diversity that to even question it is to be labelled racist, has not only made Australian culture more colourful, our diets more diverse. It has allowed new arrivals to keep to their own and retain their own customs and languages, but, in many cases, never fully integrating into the wider community around them. Far worse, Australian multiculturalism has tolerated new arrivals bringing their homeland prejudices and hatreds with them. These have been allowed to flourish because of federal and state governments’ reluctance to confront them, for fear of upsetting the new voting blocs that have emerged in an electoral system where voting is compulsory. https://www.spectator.com.au/2026/01/this-years-australia-day-brings-a-painful-realisation/ |
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Title: Re: Australia Has Been Lost.. 😞 Post by chimera on Jan 28th, 2026 at 10:40am Frank wrote on Jan 28th, 2026 at 8:23am:
Nah it was Ned Kelly who shakes me. And the pommies flogging convicts. |
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Title: Re: Australia Has Been Lost.. 😞 Post by Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM on Jan 28th, 2026 at 5:20pm
Ned Kelly, Eureka and Vinegar Hill saw the real issues of what was wrong with Australia (as it was) at that time - and sought to act on it. You saw wher that went without sufficient unafraid popular support.
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. " - Thomas Jefferson For too long The People have been forced to fear their government - not least in the past forty odd years since the advent of feminism, the rules of which placed an informer on every street corner, in every workplace and in every home .... a situation WORSE than Stalin's Russia for the simple reason that the informers thought they were going good rather than simply being paid. How many women happily caused trouble in the workplace and homes in order to clear the way for their own promotion and advancement? They were paid all right - bought off with bribes... but still - they did it because they were told it was the right thing to do.... and all of hell followed after it .... all the way up to children choosing butchery over reality.... and now a society surrendering itself to feminism daily. and look at the joint!! NEVER trust your government when it is bent on some great social reform ....you are nothing but the dirt under the treads of their tanks in that situation. Take back your country from the cheats and liars.... |
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Title: Re: Australia Has Been Lost.. 😞 Post by chimera on Jan 28th, 2026 at 5:42pm
Australia will unite to crush females and their tyrannical governments. Women's culture must yield to blokes united, crushing the street corner informers and joining the troops fighting liars.
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