https://www.qld.gov.au/makingqldsafer/adult-crime-adult-time-expands-to-33-offences

Agree.

Adult is anyone 20+ years of age.
Because a 19 year old is still a teenager just like a 13 year old is. Still a kid.

The fact that late teens are sometimes forced to consider themselves as adults, is probably the reason why the crime, violence etc. Let them enjoy the innocence of youth to their max and maybe they won't be so guilty in failing to be adults.

Legal sex should be 20+ too. How much better will it be for them to experience such when their teenie hormones stabilise after that.

Then children should have the rights of adults, such as voting.

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 8:07am:

Then children should have the rights of adults, such as voting.

No - the idea is that if they abrogate the rights of others, they pay the time.  They're not forwarded on to the Big House until they are eighteen... wassa madda you?

So as reward for being a murderer etc - they get to vote early?  Is that the idea?

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 2:13pm:

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 8:07am: Then children should have the rights of adults, such as voting. No - the idea is that if they abrogate the rights of others, they pay the time.  They're not forwarded on to the Big House until they are eighteen... wassa madda you? So as reward for being a murderer etc - they get to vote early?  Is that the idea?

Children being treated as adults, all children not jailed, they must be eligible to vote and run for government.

At the same time, consequences for actions must apply to governments, considering our current society was created by multitudes of bad decisions over the past 200+ years.

If politicians are shown to have made decisions detrimental for today's children, hanging them could fit their crime.

For example. Queensland politicians allowing ecological damage that lowers the current living standards of today's children. This is a crime.

I agree with Adult time for adult crime.
We are not talking about a mistake here.
It's not a teen who had a brainless moment.
We are talking about a young criminal who has deliberately damaged an innocent persons life

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 2:55pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 2:13pm: Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 8:07am: Then children should have the rights of adults, such as voting. No - the idea is that if they abrogate the rights of others, they pay the time.  They're not forwarded on to the Big House until they are eighteen... wassa madda you? So as reward for being a murderer etc - they get to vote early?  Is that the idea? Children being treated as adults, all children not jailed, they must be eligible to vote and run for government. At the same time, consequences for actions must apply to governments, considering our current society was created by multitudes of bad decisions over the past 200+ years. If politicians are shown to have made decisions detrimental for today's children, hanging them could fit their crime. For example. Queensland politicians allowing ecological damage that lowers the current living standards of today's children. This is a crime.

Ai - when you hang a man you better look at him.

Bobby,


You can't lock up the apex gang.

Channel 7 and 9 news won't have any content

aquascoot wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 5:06pm:

Bobby, You can't lock up the apex gang. Channel 7 and 9 news won't have any content

While there are cars driving into people's houses ("Just 5 minutes before, we were sitting on the lounge!"), sharks swimming in the ocean (not doing anything else - just swimming), and footballers behaving badly, Channel 7 and 9 "News" will have plenty of content to keep their audiences happy.

aquascoot wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 5:06pm:

Bobby, You can't lock up the apex gang. Channel 7 and 9 news won't have any content

In Melbourne we all live in fear of the gangs now.
Channel 7 and 9 news, reinforces our fears.
There are 40 gangs now, fighting for territory.
The cops are on to all of them but the magistrates let them out on bail.

You can do certain things to help -  e.g.

don't fill up for petrol at night to avoid car jackings and stabbings.

Bobby. wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 5:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 5:06pm: Bobby, You can't lock up the apex gang. Channel 7 and 9 news won't have any content In Melbourne we all live in fear of the gangs now. Channel 7 and 9 news, reinforces our fears. There are 40 gangs now, fighting for territory. The cops are on to all of them but the magistrates let them out on bail. You can do certain things to help -  e.g. don't fill up for petrol at night to avoid car jackings and stabbings.

I bet the magistrates live in gated communities

aquascoot wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 5:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 5:28pm: aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 5:06pm: Bobby, You can't lock up the apex gang. Channel 7 and 9 news won't have any content In Melbourne we all live in fear of the gangs now. Channel 7 and 9 news, reinforces our fears. There are 40 gangs now, fighting for territory. The cops are on to all of them but the magistrates let them out on bail. You can do certain things to help -  e.g. don't fill up for petrol at night to avoid car jackings and stabbings. I bet the magistrates live in gated communities

Yes - with good security and undercover parking with
radio controlled garage door openers -
bars on the windows and alarm systems - they are safe from the gangs
even if they drive a new Mercedes -
the favorite cars of the gangs for high speed freeway car chases.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 5:06pm: Bobby, You can't lock up the apex gang. Channel 7 and 9 news won't have any content While there are cars driving into people's houses ("Just 5 minutes before, we were sitting on the lounge!"), sharks swimming in the ocean (not doing anything else - just swimming), and footballers behaving badly, Channel 7 and 9 "News" will have plenty of content to keep their audiences happy.

I call this the 10 puppies and a cobra problem.
If you enter a room with the above , your eyes  will be drawn to the cobra.
Another term is the negativity bias.

The government cult of safetyism is playing into this human bias .

Bobby. wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 5:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 5:06pm: Bobby, You can't lock up the apex gang. Channel 7 and 9 news won't have any content In Melbourne we all live in fear of the gangs now. Channel 7 and 9 news, reinforces our fears.

It's almost as if they want you to be scared so that you lock yourself inside your house and watch their TV shows all day and buy all the things they advertise.

Bobby. wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 5:36pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 5:32pm: Bobby. wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 5:28pm: aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 5:06pm: Bobby, You can't lock up the apex gang. Channel 7 and 9 news won't have any content In Melbourne we all live in fear of the gangs now. Channel 7 and 9 news, reinforces our fears. There are 40 gangs now, fighting for territory. The cops are on to all of them but the magistrates let them out on bail. You can do certain things to help -  e.g. don't fill up for petrol at night to avoid car jackings and stabbings. I bet the magistrates live in gated communities Yes - with good security and undercover parking with radio controlled garage door openers - bars on the windows and alarm systems - they are safe from the gangs even if they drive a new Mercedes - the favorite cars of the gangs for high speed freeway car chases.

We really need to pass legislation that politicians and the judiciary must live in houses with public housing in close proximity. This would keep them grounded.
Alternatively, people released on bail should be accommodated in bail houses , as the next door neighbours of judges.
After all, they are safe to reside in the community, are they not ?

aquascoot wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 5:36pm: aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 5:32pm: Bobby. wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 5:28pm: aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 5:06pm: Bobby, You can't lock up the apex gang. Channel 7 and 9 news won't have any content In Melbourne we all live in fear of the gangs now. Channel 7 and 9 news, reinforces our fears. There are 40 gangs now, fighting for territory. The cops are on to all of them but the magistrates let them out on bail. You can do certain things to help -  e.g. don't fill up for petrol at night to avoid car jackings and stabbings. I bet the magistrates live in gated communities Yes - with good security and undercover parking with radio controlled garage door openers - bars on the windows and alarm systems - they are safe from the gangs even if they drive a new Mercedes - the favorite cars of the gangs for high speed freeway car chases. We really need to pass legislation that politicians and the judiciary must live in houses with public housing in close proximity. This would keep them grounded. Alternatively, people released on bail should be accommodated in bail houses , as the next door neighbours of judges. After all, they are safe to reside in the community, are they not ?

I know someone who lives in a block of 10 or more Units.
Some of those Units were bought by the Govt back in the 1990s
and are let out to disadvantaged people as community housing.
The people who live in those special Units are nothing but trouble -
cops are there once per week sorting out issues:
violence, domestic disputes with weapons, alcoholism,
drug abuse, vandalism, graffiti, unpaid fines, gang membership.

Imagine having to put up with that?
That's what Judges and Magistrates need to experience.

Bobby. wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 4:52pm:

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 2:55pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 2:13pm: Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 8:07am: Then children should have the rights of adults, such as voting. No - the idea is that if they abrogate the rights of others, they pay the time.  They're not forwarded on to the Big House until they are eighteen... wassa madda you? So as reward for being a murderer etc - they get to vote early?  Is that the idea? Children being treated as adults, all children not jailed, they must be eligible to vote and run for government. At the same time, consequences for actions must apply to governments, considering our current society was created by multitudes of bad decisions over the past 200+ years. If politicians are shown to have made decisions detrimental for today's children, hanging them could fit their crime. For example. Queensland politicians allowing ecological damage that lowers the current living standards of today's children. This is a crime. Ai - when you hang a man you better look at him.

Ditto when kids face the death penalty. 
Everyone know's jailing kids will not work.

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 6:04pm:

Ditto when kids face the death penalty.  Everyone know's jailing kids will not work.

But you have to protect society from ratbags.

Ratbags are the sign of a misaligned society.

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 2:55pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 2:13pm: Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 8:07am: Then children should have the rights of adults, such as voting. No - the idea is that if they abrogate the rights of others, they pay the time.  They're not forwarded on to the Big House until they are eighteen... wassa madda you? So as reward for being a murderer etc - they get to vote early?  Is that the idea? Children being treated as adults, all children not jailed, they must be eligible to vote and run for government. At the same time, consequences for actions must apply to governments, considering our current society was created by multitudes of bad decisions over the past 200+ years. If politicians are shown to have made decisions detrimental for today's children, hanging them could fit their crime. For example. Queensland politicians allowing ecological damage that lowers the current living standards of today's children. This is a crime.

Lots of good ideas there.  Trouble is - lines have to be drawn on these outlaws.  If a kid comes at you with a gun in hand - are you suggesting we do not shoot him?

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Sprintcyclist wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 4:44pm:

I agree with Adult time for adult crime. We are not talking about a mistake here. It's not a teen who had a brainless moment. We are talking about a young criminal who has deliberately damaged an innocent persons life

Children get taught that by adults, even if they are still children - which they are.
Feeding them to adult paedophiles in an adult prison is a crime itself in my view.

"If a kid comes at you with a gun in hand - are you suggesting we do not shoot him?"


The Making Queensland Safer (Adult Crime, Adult Time) Amendment Bill 2025 provides for an additional 20 Adult Crime, Adult Time offences, including attempted murder, rape, attempted rape, torture, aggravated attempted robbery, trafficking in dangerous drugs, and endangering a police officer when driving a motor vehicle.


Sure, society protected from gun violence, no issue there. Thing is, for a child to get a gun suggests lax gun laws.

My main issues are
1. trafficking in dangerous drugs. Children trafficing are probably doing so to feed a drug addiction. Jailing a child for an addiction is overkill.
2. endangering a police officer when driving a motor vehicle. Racial profiling would mean any dark skin child behind a wheel will be jailed.


Children in jail will result in recidivism. That's a waste of life and a massive longterm cost on society.

The saving grace as a child (like those children soldiers in Africa) is that childhood allows that window of innocence/opportunity to change their way. For the poison to not take full effect. For a better chance for their soul and mind to redeem them.
If they believe they are adults, then it's more likely they are set in stone and inner innocence will never have the chance to allow them to change.

Jasin wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 7:51am:

Agree. Adult is anyone 20+ years of age. Because a 19 year old is still a teenager just like a 13 year old is. Still a kid. The fact that late teens are sometimes forced to consider themselves as adults, is probably the reason why the crime, violence etc. Let them enjoy the innocence of youth to their max and maybe they won't be so guilty in failing to be adults. Legal sex should be 20+ too. How much better will it be for them to experience such when their teenie hormones stabilise after that.

Silly bollox .... they vote at 18, allowed to drink at 18 & they can be sent to war at 18.

The 20/21 yr old thing is history.

If a teen under 18 commits what is considered adult crime then they should do adult time.

You try telling them they aren't adults for everything else ....... only a kid when they're in strife.

They know right from wrong.

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 8:07am:

Then children should have the rights of adults, such as voting.

Rubbish - they get to drive cars legally at 17, vote at 18 & drink at 18 - go to war at 18.

Juvenile delinquents under 17 who commit serious adult crime should be held to account - that does not mean they should be allowed to vote.

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 2:55pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 2:13pm: Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 8:07am: Then children should have the rights of adults, such as voting. No - the idea is that if they abrogate the rights of others, they pay the time.  They're not forwarded on to the Big House until they are eighteen... wassa madda you? So as reward for being a murderer etc - they get to vote early?  Is that the idea? Children being treated as adults, all children not jailed, they must be eligible to vote and run for government. At the same time, consequences for actions must apply to governments, considering our current society was created by multitudes of bad decisions over the past 200+ years. If politicians are shown to have made decisions detrimental for today's children, hanging them could fit their crime. For example. Queensland politicians allowing ecological damage that lowers the current living standards of today's children. This is a crime.

You're an idiot.

What ecological damage are you referring too?

Jasin wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 7:37pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 4:44pm: I agree with Adult time for adult crime. We are not talking about a mistake here. It's not a teen who had a brainless moment. We are talking about a young criminal who has deliberately damaged an innocent persons life Children get taught that by adults, even if they are still children - which they are. Feeding them to adult paedophiles in an adult prison is a crime itself in my view.

They are not being put in Adult Prisons.

They are to be given adult sentences - they are jailed in Youth Detention centres.

Bobby. wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 5:36pm:

Yes - with good security and undercover parking with radio controlled garage door openers - bars on the windows and alarm systems - they are safe from the gangs even if they drive a new Mercedes - the favorite cars of the gangs for high speed freeway car chases.

christ you're an idiot. I doubt you'll ever find a judge living in a house with bars on the windows

and no one is stopping you getting an alarm, put flood lighting in and getting an automatic door opener ... i doubt any house built after the late 70's early 80s even has a garage without a remote door opener

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 7:48pm:

"If a kid comes at you with a gun in hand - are you suggesting we do not shoot him?" The Making Queensland Safer (Adult Crime, Adult Time) Amendment Bill 2025 provides for an additional 20 Adult Crime, Adult Time offences, including attempted murder, rape, attempted rape, torture, aggravated attempted robbery, trafficking in dangerous drugs, and endangering a police officer when driving a motor vehicle. Sure, society protected from gun violence, no issue there. Thing is, for a child to get a gun suggests lax gun laws. My main issues are 1. trafficking in dangerous drugs. Children trafficing are probably doing so to feed a drug addiction. Jailing a child for an addiction is overkill. 2. endangering a police officer when driving a motor vehicle. Racial profiling would mean any dark skin child behind a wheel will be jailed. Children in jail will result in recidivism. That's a waste of life and a massive long term cost on society.

You really are stupid ..... we have some of the toughest gun laws on the planet.

Criminals don't obey laws. Criminals can still get guns.

Only law abiding citizens obey the gun laws.


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Children in jail will result in recidivism.

They are already recidivist criminals without being sent to jail for any length of time or at all.

That's why these laws were made. The juvenile justice system is just a revolving door and the general public has had enough of the juvenile crime wave.

WTF is wrong with you?

Jasin wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 8:03pm:

The saving grace as a child (like those children soldiers in Africa) is that childhood allows that window of innocence/opportunity to change their way. For the poison to not take full effect. For a better chance for their soul and mind to redeem them. If they believe they are adults, then it's more likely they are set in stone and inner innocence will never have the chance to allow them to change.

Those child soldiers bought to Australia become part of the African gangs committing crime with machetes/swords here. They are ticking timebombs.

Jailing kids just teaches them that you've given up on them and teaches to become better criminals.

For repeat offenders or offenders of serious crime, they should set up programs and send them to work on a remote outback station for 6 months, no contact with mates or family except for snail mail to family, where they are taught about respect and responsibility. Until they learn both, they stay there. If they break the law again, repeat ... this time for 12 months minimum. If they continue on a life of crime after that, then lock them up

John Smith wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 11:50am:

Jailing kids just teaches them that you've given up on them and teaches to become better criminals. For repeat offenders or offenders of serious crime, they should set up programs and send them to work on a remote outback station for 6 months, no contact with mates or family except for snail mail to family, where they are taught about respect and responsibility. Until they learn both, they stay there. If they break the law again, repeat ... this time for 12 months minimum. If they continue on a life of crime after that, then lock them up

Most - especially those this legislation is aimed at have already become better criminals ..... & many of them haven't even been inside.

Now where did they learn their trade?

Our Gaols have become havens for more crime to cultivate within them. The human rights of Leftism has turned out Gaols into softie punishment. The Gaol is meant to be harder than the Prisoners, not the other way around.
These days, Prisoners have much 'stimulations', from being able to enact violence on other prisoners, to raping them, cigarettes, weed, mobile phones, outdoor gyms, basketball and even Uni degrees.
It's a farce! More like a holiday resort for the wicked. They must be laughing at the public. All the creature comforts like fresh 18 year old meat brought in so the likes of Travis and the Murphy's can get first pick now that they're established high in the hierarchy of Scum Lords.

Prisons, Gaols, Dungeons main core punishment is to remove all stimulation via isolation in a cell. Sight, sound, activity. You take a person's life. You do time, being voided of all facets of life like being thrown in a void of nothingness itself. It's so bad, you would relish getting outside chipping rocks like Nelson Mandela.

Seems the human rights of Prisoners comes before that of the human rights of society.

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 7:48pm:

"If a kid comes at you with a gun in hand - are you suggesting we do not shoot him?" The Making Queensland Safer (Adult Crime, Adult Time) Amendment Bill 2025 provides for an additional 20 Adult Crime, Adult Time offences, including attempted murder, rape, attempted rape, torture, aggravated attempted robbery, trafficking in dangerous drugs, and endangering a police officer when driving a motor vehicle. Sure, society protected from gun violence, no issue there. Thing is, for a child to get a gun suggests lax gun laws. My main issues are 1. trafficking in dangerous drugs. Children trafficing are probably doing so to feed a drug addiction. Jailing a child for an addiction is overkill. More like remedial treatment - with better food tan 'outside'. 2. endangering a police officer when driving a motor vehicle. Racial profiling would mean any dark skin child behind a wheel will be jailed. Rubbish.  If a dark skin child is behind a wheel he is already breaking the law. Children in jail will result in recidivism. That's a waste of life and a massive longterm cost on society.  Not being actioned for wrongdoing will definitely result in recidivism - and some will come out of their term changed people - they are not in adult prisons until they turn eighteen.

Pretty much everything said is wrong, false and deliberately misleading.  Kid who end up in juvie are the worst offenders and serial and repeat offenders - don;t tell me their term inside will make them into criminals - they already are.

Jasin wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 12:37pm:

Our Gaols have become havens for more crime to cultivate within them. The human rights of Leftism has turned out Gaols into softie punishment. The Gaol is meant to be harder than the Prisoners, not the other way around. These days, Prisoners have much 'stimulations', from being able to enact violence on other prisoners, to raping them, cigarettes, weed, mobile phones, outdoor gyms, basketball and even Uni degrees. It's a farce! More like a holiday resort for the wicked. They must be laughing at the public. All the creature comforts like fresh 18 year old meat brought in so the likes of Travis and the Murphy's can get first pick now that they're established high in the hierarchy of Scum Lords. Prisons, Gaols, Dungeons main core punishment is to remove all stimulation via isolation in a cell. Sight, sound, activity. You take a person's life. You do time, being voided of all facets of life like being thrown in a void of nothingness itself. It's so bad, you would relish getting outside chipping rocks like Nelson Mandela. Seems the human rights of Prisoners comes before that of the human rights of society.

They haven't become - they have always been.

The only alternative is that you let all criminals run free & do what they like........... No?

No - they get locked up.

What should happen is that if their crimes are serious enough they forfeit all rights ... and do "hard" time.

Do some sightseeing in our Gaols, like I have. Junee prisoners look 'happy'. There is no hard time.
The British used real hard time methods here.
Now, our Gaols have become more like the American versions.
I'm talking the general incarceration a more than the stricter maximums... which still allow Prisoners a level of stimulating freedoms.

Gnads wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 11:58am:

[ Most - especially those this legislation is aimed at have already become better criminals ..... & many of them haven't even been inside. Now where did they learn their trade?

no, most are not better criminals, most are just bullies that grow into thugs

Probably learnt their trade watching sky news.

John Smith wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 4:12pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 1st, 2025 at 11:58am: [ Most - especially those this legislation is aimed at have already become better criminals ..... & many of them haven't even been inside. Now where did they learn their trade? no, most are not better criminals, most are just bullies that grow into thugs Probably learnt their trade watching sky news.

What a wank statement ...... from a wanker.

Gnads wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 7:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2025 at 4:12pm: Gnads wrote on Jun 1st, 2025 at 11:58am: [ Most - especially those this legislation is aimed at have already become better criminals ..... & many of them haven't even been inside. Now where did they learn their trade? no, most are not better criminals, most are just bullies that grow into thugs Probably learnt their trade watching sky news. What a wank statement ...... from a wanker.

but nevertheless true

John Smith wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 7:11pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 1st, 2025 at 7:09pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2025 at 4:12pm: Gnads wrote on Jun 1st, 2025 at 11:58am: [ Most - especially those this legislation is aimed at have already become better criminals ..... & many of them haven't even been inside. Now where did they learn their trade? no, most are not better criminals, most are just bullies that grow into thugs Probably learnt their trade watching sky news. What a wank statement ...... from a wanker. but nevertheless true

It's not even remotely true.

It's just a bs wank response for the sake of making a response. 

Gnads wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 7:15pm:

It's not even remotely true. It's just a bs wank response for the sake of making a response.

and the earth is flat :D

Jasin wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 12:52pm:

Do some sightseeing in our Gaols, like I have. Junee prisoners look 'happy'. There is no hard time. The British used real hard time methods here. Now, our Gaols have become more like the American versions. I'm talking the general incarceration a more than the stricter maximums... which still allow Prisoners a level of stimulating freedoms.

Jail should be hard labor - breaking rocks into gravel for the roads using a pick.

Apparently using Convicted labour is against human rights here.
Plus, the Govt doesn't want people in chains seen by public.

Jasin wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 7:47pm:

Apparently using Convicted labour is against human rights here. Plus, the Govt doesn't want people in chains seen by public.

They should be out in chain gangs fixing pot holes on our roads
so everyone can see them.

Americanised Australians will claim British Convict labour is stealing their overpayed work. Fixing a road in Australia cost x3 as it does in Europe and x5 as much as most other countries. Go figure.

...it's right up there with tradies charging triple if it comes under NDIS and other taxpayer funded projects.

Jasin wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 7:57pm:

Americanised Australians will claim British Convict labour is stealing their overpayed work. Fixing a road in Australia cost x3 as it does in Europe and x5 as much as most other countries. Go figure.

I once saw a large road roundabout being built over a period of 18 months -
just out of Melbourne.
It must have cost $millions.

The Chinese would have built it in one week.

Big Brother Media of Oceania is ripping off and sexually molesting Namerica, Samerica and here in Australia. Exploiting the New Worlds like the Middle-East did to Africa, Asia and Europe in the Old Worlds.

John Smith wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 7:20pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 1st, 2025 at 7:15pm: It's not even remotely true. It's just a bs wank response for the sake of making a response.  and the earth is flat :D

I'd believe you would believe that.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 1^st, 2025 at 8:01pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 1st, 2025 at 7:57pm: Americanised Australians will claim British Convict labour is stealing their overpayed work. Fixing a road in Australia cost x3 as it does in Europe and x5 as much as most other countries. Go figure. I once saw a large road roundabout being built over a period of 18 months - just out of Melbourne. It must have cost $millions. The Chinese would have built it in one week.

And it would have fallen down in 2 weeks.

Gnads wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 10:08am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2025 at 7:20pm: Gnads wrote on Jun 1st, 2025 at 7:15pm: It's not even remotely true. It's just a bs wank response for the sake of making a response.  and the earth is flat :D I'd believe you would believe that.

As we've already concluded that you're a moron, your beliefs are just as moronic as you.

Wonder why every time there is a call for a crackdown on crime - youth or otherwise - it's always cast as being against AboriginES (a group as defined) and being slammered for heinous offences is called anything but criminal conduct?

I guess when the 'Elders' fattened for life out of the public purse actively promote that kind of behaviour - the kids have no real idea, do they?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/pat-dodson-talks-nonsense-on-indigenous-youth-crime-rates/ar-AA1FS6yY?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=a1448f9a5b7a439f9469beaa8c9337d4&ei=10

"Centre for Independent Studies’ Warren Mundine says former Labor Senator Pat Dodson is “emotional” when describing the Indigenous youth incarceration in Australia as a genocide.

“We’ve got serious youth crime across Australia,” Mr Mundine said.

“They need to come up with some serious, serious solutions.

“I get sick and tired of people who make up words and talk nonsense.”

Bring on the German rotary engines - Der Wankels...