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Message started by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 4:45pm

Title: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 4:45pm
Was she bumped off like Epstein?






Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 4:47pm
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cql67qk0dd3o

Virginia Giuffre, Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein accuser, dies


19 minutes ago



Virginia Giuffre, who accused Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein of sexual abuse, has died by suicide aged 41, her family has said.

Ms Giuffre was one of the most outspoken accusers of convicted sex offenders Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, his former girlfriend. She alleged they trafficked her to the Duke of York when she was 17, which Prince Andrew has strenuously denied.

Relatives said in a statement on Friday that she had been a "fierce warrior in the fight against sexual abuse", and that the "toll of abuse... became unbearable".

"She lost her life to suicide, after being a lifelong victim of sexual abuse and sex trafficking," they said.

The statement described the mother of three "as the light that lifted so many survivors" and
said she died on Friday at her farm in Western Australia.

West Australia police said they were called to a home in the Neergabby area on Friday night, where Ms Giuffre was found unresponsive.

A statement continued: "The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives; early indication is the death is not suspicious."

Ms Giuffre - who was born in the US - had been living with her children and husband Robert in the suburb of North Perth, although recent reports suggested the couple had split after 22 years of marriage.

Three weeks ago, Ms Giuffre posted on Instagram to say she had been seriously injured in a car accident, which her family later said she had not intended to make public. Local police later disputed the severity of the crash.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 4:54pm
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/25/australia/prince-andrew-accuser-virginia-giuffre-dies-intl-hnk/index.html


Giuffre, a mother of three, was one of the most vocal accusers of the wealthy and well-connected sex offender Epstein.
In 2019, she publicly alleged Epstein trafficked her and forced her to have sex with his friends, including Prince Andrew, when she was 17 years old.

She also claimed the prince was aware she was underage in the US at the time.

Prince Andrew repeatedly denied the claims.

In July 2019, Epstein was indicted on one count of sex trafficking of minors and one count of conspiracy to engage in sex trafficking of minors, to which he pleaded not guilty. One month later, he died by suicide in prison.

He was accused of running a child trafficking ring to provide him with girls as young as 14 for sex and nude massages at his homes in New York City and Florida between 2002 and 2005.

A 2009 settlement agreement, unsealed in 2022, showed that Epstein paid Giuffre $500,000 to drop a case without any admission of liability or fault.

Prior to that, Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 to state prostitution charges, one involving a 14-year-old girl, and served 13 months in prison under a controversial plea deal.

His ex-girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell was arrested in 2020 and accused of facilitating Epstein’s abuse scheme. A jury in 2021 convicted her on five federal counts, including sex trafficking a minor and conspiracy. She was sentenced to 20 years in jail a year later.

Giuffre was not one of the four women who testified in the trial that they had been abused.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Sophia on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:24pm
Too sad. She was a trooper! A beacon of light for others to stand up to that sort of sexual abuse.
It just seems out of place for someone with such strength to commit suicide. To leave her 3 children behind? They were her light and strength.
I know she had a car accident where a bus hit her car and she presented into Perth hospital….did they prescribe some type medication that may have made her suicide… I’ve heard some can go out of character in certain meds, I had a dear friend suicide after being on medication…. My friend would no way ever have left her daughters … she loved them so much….
Sorry but this suicide is out of character for Virginia and her fight… she was paid an undisclosed amount as settlement from the ever denying prince A (for arsehole)

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:26pm


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm

Sophia wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Too sad. She was a trooper! A beacon of light for others to stand up to that sort of sexual abuse.
It just seems out of place for someone with such strength to commit suicide. To leave her 3 children behind? They were her light and strength.
I know she had a car accident where a bus hit her car and she presented into Perth hospital….did they prescribe some type medication that may have made her suicide… I’ve heard some can go out of character in certain meds, I had a dear friend suicide after being on medication…. My friend would no way ever have left her daughters … she loved them so much….
Sorry but this suicide is out of character for Virginia and her fight… she was paid an undisclosed amount as settlement from the ever denying prince A (for arsehole)



I think the Deep State bumped her off. 

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:30pm

Died in Gin Gin, just north of Perth.

Why won't Trump release the full, unredacted Epstein files?

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:48pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.


They say Epstein committed suicide too.

If you believe that, I have a few bridges I'd like to sell you.


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.


They say Epstein committed suicide too.

If you believe that, I have a few bridges I'd like to sell you.



The Deep State got Epstein.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:52pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.



The Deep State makes people shut up.


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:52pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.


They say Epstein committed suicide too.

If you believe that, I have a few bridges I'd like to sell you.



The Deep State got Epstein.


Is 'The Deep State' a fat orange rapist?


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.


They say Epstein committed suicide too.

If you believe that, I have a few bridges I'd like to sell you.


Stuck with a few bridges are you Greg. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:52pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.



The Deep State makes people shut up.


Gregs got a few bridges you might be able to get cheap.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:55pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:52pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.



The Deep State makes people shut up.


Gregs got a few bridges you might be able to get cheap.



I'm selling the Melbourne West Gate bridge - anyone interested?

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:55pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.


They say Epstein committed suicide too.

If you believe that, I have a few bridges I'd like to sell you.


Stuck with a few bridges are you Greg. ;D ;D ;D ;D


If you believe Epstein committed suicide, I'm confident you'll buy the bridges from my contact.

They'll give you a good price.

Want me to hook you up?


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:55pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.


They say Epstein committed suicide too.

If you believe that, I have a few bridges I'd like to sell you.


Stuck with a few bridges are you Greg. ;D ;D ;D ;D


If you believe Epstein committed suicide, I'm confident you'll buy the bridges from the seller.

They'll give you a good price.

Want me to hook you up?


what so now you don't have any bridges suddenly, is that because you realized how silly you are for buying bridges. ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:00pm

Not sure what to believe about her passing,

but have no doubt that a few evil folk will be sleeping easier tonight.







Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:03pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:00pm:
Not sure what to believe about her passing,

but have no doubt that a few evil folk will be sleeping easier tonight.





Good stuff Bobby, the media have done their job.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:04pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:55pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.


They say Epstein committed suicide too.

If you believe that, I have a few bridges I'd like to sell you.


Stuck with a few bridges are you Greg. ;D ;D ;D ;D


If you believe Epstein committed suicide, I'm confident you'll buy the bridges from the seller.

They'll give you a good price.

Want me to hook you up?


what so now you don't have any bridges suddenly, is that because you realized how silly you are for buying bridges. ;D ;D ;D


I don't buy bridges, Leroy.

I'm just trying to hook you up with a seller.

If you believe that Epstein committed suicide, it makes sense that you'd be in the market for a bridge at a bargain price.

PM me and I'll give you the contact details - they say they'll accept BitCoin.


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:05pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:00pm:
Not sure what to believe about her passing,

but have no doubt that a few evil folk will be sleeping easier tonight.


Namely, a fat orange rapist in Florida.


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:04pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:55pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.


They say Epstein committed suicide too.

If you believe that, I have a few bridges I'd like to sell you.


Stuck with a few bridges are you Greg. ;D ;D ;D ;D


If you believe Epstein committed suicide, I'm confident you'll buy the bridges from the seller.

They'll give you a good price.

Want me to hook you up?


what so now you don't have any bridges suddenly, is that because you realized how silly you are for buying bridges. ;D ;D ;D


I don't buy bridges, Leroy.

I'm just trying to hook you up with a seller.

If you believe that Epstein committed suicide, it makes sense that you'd be in the market for a bridge at a bargain price.

PM me and I'll give you the contact details - they say they'll accept BitCoin.


Sorry Greg you are stuck with them, unless you can get Bobby to buy one.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:00pm:
Not sure what to believe about her passing,

but have no doubt that a few evil folk will be sleeping easier tonight.


Namely, a fat orange rapist in Florida.



Silence - I just saw our dear leader at the Pope's funeral.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by John Smith on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:07pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.


were her family there watching? or do you think the family is just repeating the official findings?

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:00pm:
Not sure what to believe about her passing,

but have no doubt that a few evil folk will be sleeping easier tonight.


Namely, a fat orange rapist in Florida.



Silence - I just saw our dear leader at the Pope's funeral.


Albo?

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:00pm:
Not sure what to believe about her passing,

but have no doubt that a few evil folk will be sleeping easier tonight.


Namely, a fat orange rapist in Florida.



Silence - I just saw our dear leader at the Pope's funeral.


Albo?



No - the leader of the free world -  TRUMP.


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:11pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:07pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.


were her family there watching? or do you think the family is just repeating the official findings?


A WA Police spokesperson said emergency services received a report that a woman had been located unresponsive at a residence in Neergabby just before 10pm on Friday.

"Police and St John WA attended and provided emergency first aid. Sadly, the 41-year-old woman was declared deceased at the scene," the spokesperson said.

"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by John Smith on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:07pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.


were her family there watching? or do you think the family is just repeating the official findings?


A WA Police spokesperson said emergency services received a report that a woman had been located unresponsive at a residence in Neergabby just before 10pm on Friday.

"Police and St John WA attended and provided emergency first aid. Sadly, the 41-year-old woman was declared deceased at the scene," the spokesperson said.

"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".


So Leroy lied? Why am I not surprised? ::)

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:19pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:07pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.


were her family there watching? or do you think the family is just repeating the official findings?


A WA Police spokesperson said emergency services received a report that a woman had been located unresponsive at a residence in Neergabby just before 10pm on Friday.

"Police and St John WA attended and provided emergency first aid. Sadly, the 41-year-old woman was declared deceased at the scene," the spokesperson said.

"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".


So Leroy lied? Why am I not surprised? ::)


Leroy is a big fan of Trump - the convicted felon and adjudicated rapist - so it's not that hard to imagine him defending Epstein and his affiliates.

"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:19pm
https://www.infowars.com/posts/breaking-epstein-victim-virginia-giuffre-dead-by-suicide


Virginia Roberts Giuffre, one of billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s most vocal sex trafficking victims, reportedly died by suicide Friday, just weeks after sustaining severe injuries in a devastating car wreck.

Giuffre’s family confirmed her death Friday in a statement to NBC News, writing, “It is with utterly broken hearts that we announce that Virginia passed away last night at her farm in Western Australia.”

“She lost her life to suicide, after being a lifelong victim of sexual abuse and sex trafficking.”



Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:21pm

"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".



So it could have been murder?     :o


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".


Full quote:

"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives; early indication is the death is not suspicious."

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".



So it could have been murder?     :o


Come on Greg lift your game or you will be stuck forever with those bridges.

Bobby is champing at the bit to buy a bridge.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by John Smith on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:24pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".


Full quote:

"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives; early indication is the death is not suspicious."


thats not the same as pretending the cause of death was settled you dumbarse ::)

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:26pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:24pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".


Full quote:

"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives; early indication is the death is not suspicious."


thats not the same as pretending the cause of death was settled you dumbarse ::)


Of course not little John, we can't rule out it was a stray meteorite now can we.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:27pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".


Full quote:

"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives; early indication is the death is not suspicious."


Early indication   ;D

I knew Leroy was an Epstein man.



Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".



So it could have been murder?     :o


Absolutely.

It's currently being investigated, so they don't know if it was suicide, murder or an accident.


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".



So it could have been murder?     :o


Absolutely.

It's currently being investigated, so they don't know if it was suicide, murder or an accident.



It's murder.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by John Smith on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:30pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:24pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".


Full quote:

"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives; early indication is the death is not suspicious."


thats not the same as pretending the cause of death was settled you dumbarse ::)


Of course not little John, we can't rule out it was a stray meteorite now can we.


so which is it? did you deliberately lie, or are you stupid?

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".



So it could have been murder?     :o


Absolutely.

It's currently being investigated, so they don't know if it was suicide, murder or an accident.



It's murder.


We don't know yet.

I'm not a betting man, but if I had to put money on it I know exactly what I'd bet on.

- Suicide?

- Murder?

- Accident?


You?

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Sophia on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:52pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.



The Deep State makes people shut up.


That’s been going on forever in the past, present and will do in the future.
Just look at jfk files, and all others bumped off around him.
Files I read of people shot in the head walking along that were associated with JFK and had their damning info.
Epstein was a weasel… who would do anything to take the heat off himself, and that’s why…. Pffft…. dead and dead men tell no tales.


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:27pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".


Full quote:

"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives; early indication is the death is not suspicious."


Early indication   ;D

I knew Leroy was an Epstein man.


Loved Epstien, one of my favorites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYqOEwGqZg4

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:34pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:30pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:24pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".


Full quote:

"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives; early indication is the death is not suspicious."


thats not the same as pretending the cause of death was settled you dumbarse ::)


Of course not little John, we can't rule out it was a stray meteorite now can we.


so which is it? did you deliberately lie, or are you stupid?


Well I'm entertaining you so I must be stupid.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:35pm

Sophia wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:52pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.



The Deep State makes people shut up.


That’s been going on forever in the past, present and will do in the future.
Just look at jfk files, and all others bumped off around him.
Files I read of people shot in the head walking along that were associated with JFK and had their damning info.
Epstein was a weasel… who would do anything to take the heat off himself, and that’s why…. Pffft…. dead and dead men tell no tales.


Why won't Trump release the full, unredacted Epstein files?


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Sophia on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:35pm:

Sophia wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:52pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.



The Deep State makes people shut up.


That’s been going on forever in the past, present and will do in the future.
Just look at jfk files, and all others bumped off around him.
Files I read of people shot in the head walking along that were associated with JFK and had their damning info.
Epstein was a weasel… who would do anything to take the heat off himself, and that’s why…. Pffft…. dead and dead men tell no tales.


Why won't Trump release the full, unredacted Epstein files?


That’s the gazzillion dollar question hey!


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:39pm

Sophia wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:35pm:

Sophia wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:52pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.



The Deep State makes people shut up.


That’s been going on forever in the past, present and will do in the future.
Just look at jfk files, and all others bumped off around him.
Files I read of people shot in the head walking along that were associated with JFK and had their damning info.
Epstein was a weasel… who would do anything to take the heat off himself, and that’s why…. Pffft…. dead and dead men tell no tales.


Why won't Trump release the full, unredacted Epstein files?


That’s the gazzillion dollar question hey!


Yeah, but we all know the answer  ;)


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:40pm

Sophia wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:38pm:
That’s the gazzillion dollar question hey!


Actually the two gazzillion question is why did Biden keep it under wraps, now thats a real doozie isn't it.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Sophia on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:41pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:19pm:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/breaking-epstein-victim-virginia-giuffre-dead-by-suicide


Virginia Roberts Giuffre, one of billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s most vocal sex trafficking victims, reportedly died by suicide Friday, just weeks after sustaining severe injuries in a devastating car wreck.

Giuffre’s family confirmed her death Friday in a statement to NBC News, writing, “It is with utterly broken hearts that we announce that Virginia passed away last night at her farm in Western Australia.”

“She lost her life to suicide, after being a lifelong victim of sexual abuse and sex trafficking.”




What I don’t quite understand, how it’s a report I read recently that police attending the accident said no serious injury at scene. Yet …. are they blind? They certainly are not doctors to assess who is internally injured or not.



Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:35pm:

Sophia wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:52pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:27pm:
I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.



The Deep State makes people shut up.


That’s been going on forever in the past, present and will do in the future.
Just look at jfk files, and all others bumped off around him.
Files I read of people shot in the head walking along that were associated with JFK and had their damning info.
Epstein was a weasel… who would do anything to take the heat off himself, and that’s why…. Pffft…. dead and dead men tell no tales.


Why won't Trump release the full, unredacted Epstein files?



I think 99% of the people who went to his island
were there with their wives and families on an ordinary family holiday.
There was no hanky panky.   :-[

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by John Smith on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:44pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:30pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:24pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".


Full quote:

"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives; early indication is the death is not suspicious."


thats not the same as pretending the cause of death was settled you dumbarse ::)


Of course not little John, we can't rule out it was a stray meteorite now can we.


so which is it? did you deliberately lie, or are you stupid?


Well I'm entertaining you so I must be stupid.


don't overestimate your abilities, you're not entertaining anyone
and I apologise for saying you lied .... i should have known it was because you're an idiot

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Sophia on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:45pm
Here, I found the article that had this….unfrikkenbelievable!
How many “incidences” to make it look like a accident or suicide?


Quote:
While police only had a record of a minor bus accident that resulted in $2000 worth of damage and no injuries.

Her brother Sky Roberts then claimed Ms Giuffre was involved in another incident in January. He says that event resulted in a cracked sternum and perforated eye, and almost killed her.
Referencing the January incident, Ms Giuffre said: “I was able to fight back against Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein who abused and trafficked me … I can no longer stay silent
.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:47pm

Sophia wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:45pm:
Here, I found the article that had this….unfrikkenbelievable!
How many “incidences” to make it look like a accident or suicide?


Quote:
While police only had a record of a minor bus accident that resulted in $2000 worth of damage and no injuries.

Her brother Sky Roberts then claimed Ms Giuffre was involved in another incident in January. He says that event resulted in a cracked sternum and perforated eye, and almost killed her.
Referencing the January incident, Ms Giuffre said: “I was able to fight back against Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein who abused and trafficked me … I can no longer stay silent
.


Interesting.

And there are people who believe Epstein committed suicide.


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:35pm:

Sophia wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:52pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 5:44pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1745649905/5#5 date=1745652437]


I think the Deep State bumped her off. 


It was her family that said she committed suicide, do you think they were in on it and maybe got paid off?.



The Deep State makes people shut up.


That’s been going on forever in the past, present and will do in the future.
Just look at jfk files, and all others bumped off around him.
Files I read of people shot in the head walking along that were associated with JFK and had their damning info.
Epstein was a weasel… who would do anything to take the heat off himself, and that’s why…. Pffft…. dead and dead men tell no tales.


Why won't Trump release the full, unredacted Epstein files?



I think 99% of the people who went to his island
were there with their wives and families on an ordinary family holiday.
There was no hanky panky.   :-[/quote]

Have you ever thought about owning a bridge, Bobby?


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:50pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:44pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:30pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:24pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".


Full quote:

"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives; early indication is the death is not suspicious."


thats not the same as pretending the cause of death was settled you dumbarse ::)


Of course not little John, we can't rule out it was a stray meteorite now can we.


so which is it? did you deliberately lie, or are you stupid?


Well I'm entertaining you so I must be stupid.


don't overestimate your abilities, you're not entertaining anyone
and I apologise for saying you lied .... i should have known it was because you're an idiot


No need to apologize John. I couldn't care less what you say or think.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:48pm:
Have you ever thought about owning a bridge, Bobby?


I want a commission Greg.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by John Smith on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:52pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:44pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:30pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:24pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives".


Full quote:

"The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives; early indication is the death is not suspicious."


thats not the same as pretending the cause of death was settled you dumbarse ::)


Of course not little John, we can't rule out it was a stray meteorite now can we.


so which is it? did you deliberately lie, or are you stupid?


Well I'm entertaining you so I must be stupid.


don't overestimate your abilities, you're not entertaining anyone
and I apologise for saying you lied .... i should have known it was because you're an idiot


No need to apologize John. I couldn't care less what you say or think.


thats ok, i didn't really mean it. Was just being polite ;D ;D

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by John Smith on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:53pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:48pm:
Have you ever thought about owning a bridge, Bobby?


I want a commission Greg.


you'll latch onto any scammer won't you? You're shameless

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:48pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1745649905/49#49 date=1745656945]

I think 99% of the people who went to his island
were there with their wives and families on an ordinary family holiday.
There was no hanky panky.   :-[/quote]

Have you ever thought about owning a bridge, Bobby?



I already own the Sydney Harbor bridge - one is enough.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:54pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:48pm:
Have you ever thought about owning a bridge, Bobby?


I want a commission Greg.


Why not go halves with Bobby?


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by John Smith on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:48pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1745649905/49#49 date=1745656945]

I think 99% of the people who went to his island
were there with their wives and families on an ordinary family holiday.
There was no hanky panky.   :-[/quote]

Have you ever thought about owning a bridge, Bobby?



I already own the Sydney Harbor bridge - one is enough.


only one?

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:58pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:48pm:
Have you ever thought about owning a bridge, Bobby?


I want a commission Greg.


you'll latch onto any scammer won't you? You're shameless


Are you calling Greg a scammer John?.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by John Smith on Apr 26th, 2025 at 7:01pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:48pm:
Have you ever thought about owning a bridge, Bobby?


I want a commission Greg.


you'll latch onto any scammer won't you? You're shameless


Are you calling Greg a scammer John?.

if he's selling you a bridge he is ::)

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by mothra on Apr 26th, 2025 at 7:08pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:48pm:
Have you ever thought about owning a bridge, Bobby?


I want a commission Greg.


you'll latch onto any scammer won't you? You're shameless


Are you calling Greg a scammer John?.



That you Fleadriver?

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 7:10pm

mothra wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 7:08pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:48pm:
Have you ever thought about owning a bridge, Bobby?


I want a commission Greg.


you'll latch onto any scammer won't you? You're shameless


Are you calling Greg a scammer John?.



That you Fleadriver?


;)

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by mothra on Apr 26th, 2025 at 7:16pm
Has anyone seen the bridge?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W711RXvFwmI&ab_channel=LedZeppelin

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2025 at 7:16pm

mothra wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 7:08pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:48pm:
Have you ever thought about owning a bridge, Bobby?


I want a commission Greg.


you'll latch onto any scammer won't you? You're shameless


Are you calling Greg a scammer John?.



That you Fleadriver?



Very similar style of writing.    :-[

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 26th, 2025 at 7:23pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 7:16pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 7:08pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:50pm:
[quote author=greggerypeccary link=1745649905/53#53 date=1745657289]

Have you ever thought about owning a bridge, Bobby?


I want a commission Greg.


you'll latch onto any scammer won't you? You're shameless


Are you calling Greg a scammer John?.



That you Fleadriver?



Very similar style of writing.    :-[/quote]

You're not accusing FD of creating a sock that starts several troll posts a day in order to boost traffic on his forum, are you Bobby?


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by mothra on Apr 26th, 2025 at 7:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 7:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 7:16pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 7:08pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:50pm:
[quote author=greggerypeccary link=1745649905/53#53 date=1745657289]

Have you ever thought about owning a bridge, Bobby?


I want a commission Greg.


you'll latch onto any scammer won't you? You're shameless


Are you calling Greg a scammer John?.



That you Fleadriver?



Very similar style of writing.    :-[/quote]

You're not accusing FD of creating a sock that starts several troll posts a day in order to boost traffic on his forum, are you Bobby?




More like he's too chickenshit to own his devotion to the bloated orange douche and his unwavering defense of all the malignant pustule unleashes under his regular ID.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 26th, 2025 at 8:02pm
oooooooooooh the natives are revolting.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Apr 26th, 2025 at 10:30pm
For or against?  I was wondering if it was beginning to unwind like Weinstein...

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by mothra on Apr 27th, 2025 at 7:58am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 10:30pm:
For or against?  I was wondering if it was beginning to unwind like Weinstein...



Did it not occur to you to read the OP before commenting?

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Apr 27th, 2025 at 11:41am
The level of instability in so many accusers these days - this should be fully investigated... alongside - say - the advent of the trans nonsense fad.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Gnads on Apr 27th, 2025 at 12:00pm
Can't believe she would commit suicide after saying she wasn't suicidal after going public with her story about Epstein & Prince Andrew.

Reportedly the lying Prince paid her 3 million quid/AU$6million - she up stakes and moved to Australia .. bought a farm in WA ....

Seemed to have everything to live for .....

her death seems suspicious imho.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27th, 2025 at 12:05pm

Gnads wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 12:00pm:
Can't believe she would commit suicide after saying she wasn't suicidal after going public with her story about Epstein & Prince Andrew.

Reportedly the lying Prince paid her 3 million quid/AU$6million - she up stakes and moved to Australia .. bought a farm in WA ....

Seemed to have everything to live for .....

her death seems suspicious imho.


Indeed.

Just as suspicious as Epstein's "suicide".

Why won't Trump release the full, unredacted Epstein files?


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27th, 2025 at 12:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 12:05pm:

Gnads wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 12:00pm:
Can't believe she would commit suicide after saying she wasn't suicidal after going public with her story about Epstein & Prince Andrew.

Reportedly the lying Prince paid her 3 million quid/AU$6million - she up stakes and moved to Australia .. bought a farm in WA ....

Seemed to have everything to live for .....

her death seems suspicious imho.


Indeed.

Just as suspicious as Epstein's "suicide".

Why won't Trump release the full, unredacted Epstein files?


He really doesn't wanna talk about the Epstein files.

I wonder why   ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wyxN6uu2fw

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2025 at 2:01pm

Gnads wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 12:00pm:
Can't believe she would commit suicide after saying she wasn't suicidal after going public with her story about Epstein & Prince Andrew.

Reportedly the lying Prince paid her 3 million quid/AU$6million - she up stakes and moved to Australia .. bought a farm in WA ....

Seemed to have everything to live for .....

her death seems suspicious imho.



Very suspicious.      

We need Columbo on this case.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2025 at 2:10pm
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yle7pxlyno


Virginia Giuffre's death leaves unanswered questions





14 hours ago


The death of Virginia Giuffre will leave questions that are now likely to remain unanswered.

Her name will always be associated with the scandals and criminality surrounding the late billionaire sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and his circle - with Ms Giuffre one of the most prominent among his accusers, revealing the trafficking and sexual exploitation of young women.

The photo of her and Prince Andrew, taken in London in 2001, became emblematic of the royal's entanglement with Epstein and was central to his disastrous Newsnight interview in 2019.

The origins of the picture remain uncertain. But Ms Giuffre's death adds another layer to the mystery of what must have inadvertently become one of the most widely viewed photos in royal history.

Virginia Giuffre, Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein accuser, dies
Virginia Giuffre remembered as 'fierce warrior against sexual abuse'
Epstein - who was said to have taken the photo - died in jail facing sex trafficking charges.

Ghislaine Maxwell - who helped him abuse young girls and is pictured to the right of Prince Andrew and Ms Giuffre - is in prison in the US. Prince Andrew has stepped down from all public duties. And Virginia Giuffre, a smiling teenager in the photo, is now dead.

Ms Giuffre - who was born in the US - died by suicide at her farm in Western Australia aged 41, her family said on Friday.

Prince Andrew has always strongly denied any wrongdoing involving Ms Giuffre.

They reached an out-of-court settlement in 2022, in which Prince Andrew paid an undisclosed amount of money.

A statement with the settlement expressed regret on his part - but contained no admission of liability or an apology. Prince Andrew has always denied all the accusations against him.

The prospect of Prince Andrew facing a court hearing in New York was averted by the settlement, but it had been a huge problem for the Royal Family, and Prince Andrew was swiftly removed from all official public roles.

His reputation has never recovered.

At this stage, there is still much that is not known about Ms Giuffre's last days or her personal circumstances.

But as her family has said, as a young woman, she had the strength to stand up to a toxic mix of power, money and privilege in the circle surrounding Epstein, that sexually exploited so many girls.

There will be suspicions the long shadow of Epstein's poisonous misuse of wealth and influence has indirectly claimed another victim.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27th, 2025 at 2:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 2:10pm:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yle7pxlyno


Virginia Giuffre's death leaves unanswered questions


Such as: why won't Trump release the full, unredacted Epstein files?

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2025 at 2:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 2:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 2:10pm:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yle7pxlyno


Virginia Giuffre's death leaves unanswered questions


Such as: why won't Trump release the full, unredacted Epstein files?



Very suspicious.      

We need Columbo on this case.




Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27th, 2025 at 2:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 2:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 2:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 2:10pm:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yle7pxlyno


Virginia Giuffre's death leaves unanswered questions


Such as: why won't Trump release the full, unredacted Epstein files?



Very suspicious.      

We need Columbo on this case.


Nah, we don't need a detective.

Every man and his dog knows why Trump refuses to release the unredacted Epstein files.


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2025 at 2:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 2:26pm:
Nah, we don't need a detective.

Every man and his dog knows why Trump refuses to release the unredacted Epstein files.



Just one more thing Mr Trump -

why won't you release the full, unredacted Epstein files?



Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27th, 2025 at 2:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 2:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 2:26pm:
Nah, we don't need a detective.

Every man and his dog knows why Trump refuses to release the unredacted Epstein files.



Just one more thing Mr Trump -

why won't you release the full, unredacted Epstein files?





Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Sophia on Apr 27th, 2025 at 4:13pm

Sophia wrote on Apr 26th, 2025 at 6:45pm:
How many “incidences” to make it look like a accident or suicide?

I still have this question in mind


Quote:
While police only had a record of a minor bus accident that resulted in $2000 worth of damage and no injuries.
Total BS. Have any of these clowns had quotes at a smash repairer recently? $2000???? I had my rhs rear light smashed recently, no panel damage, and that alone was about $650 replacement!!!

Her brother Sky Roberts then claimed Ms Giuffre was involved in another incident in January. He says that event resulted in a cracked sternum and perforated eye, and almost killed her.
A not so long ago  “car accident” then this latest one with a big speeding bus …. if they wanna get you… this shows how  ;)
Referencing the January incident, Ms Giuffre said: “I was able to fight back against Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein who abused and trafficked me … I can no longer stay silent
.

Yet… here she is folks…. To remain forever silent! It’s all too CONvenient


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 27th, 2025 at 4:27pm

Sophia wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 4:13pm:
I had my rhs rear light smashed recently, no panel damage, and that alone was about $650 replacement!!![/color][/b]


Oh no Sophia they are trying to silence you too. Stay safe.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2025 at 4:46pm

SCANDAL: Why are Epstein’s records still hidden?
This was an international sex trafficking operation,
and the public deserves to know who enabled him and who protected him.

42 second video:

https://x.com/JudicialWatch/status/1916208155341496341

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 4:46pm:
SCANDAL: Why are Epstein’s records still hidden?
This was an international sex trafficking operation,
and the public deserves to know who enabled him and who protected him.

42 second video:



https://x.com/JudicialWatch/status/1916208155341496341


That could only be Obama and Biden, there is no other person who had the ability to hide these records.

So there you have it Bobby, do you think that someone hid the records?.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:34pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 4:46pm:
SCANDAL: Why are Epstein’s records still hidden?
This was an international sex trafficking operation,
and the public deserves to know who enabled him and who protected him.

42 second video:



https://x.com/JudicialWatch/status/1916208155341496341


That could only be Obama and Biden, there is no other person who had the ability to hide these records.

So there you have it Bobby, do you think that someone hid the records?.



But Trump promised to drain the swamp -

to kill the Deep State.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:42pm
So Bobby who do you think protected Epstien, do you even have a clue?.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:53pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:42pm:
So Bobby who do you think protected Epstien, do you even have a clue?.


We know exactly who killed him.


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:42pm:
So Bobby who do you think protected Epstien, do you even have a clue?.


We know exactly who killed him.


No you don't, you don't have a clue.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:56pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:42pm:
So Bobby who do you think protected Epstien, do you even have a clue?.


We know exactly who killed him.


No you don't, you don't have a clue.


Ah.

So you're saying it wasn't suicide?

Interesting.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:58pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:42pm:
So Bobby who do you think protected Epstein, do you even have a clue?.



Don't know - the Deep State is mysterious -

we never know who calls the shots.


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:59pm
Just one more thing Mr Trump -

why won't you release the full, unredacted Epstein files?




Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Sophia on Apr 27th, 2025 at 6:05pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 4:27pm:

Sophia wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 4:13pm:
I had my rhs rear light smashed recently, no panel damage, and that alone was about $650 replacement!!![/color][/b]


Oh no Sophia they are trying to silence you too. Stay safe.


I will keep tabs and report  on any incidences that follow!
Can’t leave things to chance.

But I won’t leave to chance just in case you missed the point?
Another comparison, and yes maybe the gods of the skies are after us too… my daughter had her car pelted with hail stones. Just a few little dents on roof and bonnet…they called it a write off.
That’s how expensive car repair is.
So some noob saying only $2000 of damage with a near fatal accident…a bus ranking into a car….
Minor injuries? The woman was in death row from her injury’s, renal failure and all.

Me thinks there’s sleeper agents everywhere in every profession.




Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27th, 2025 at 6:05pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:59pm:
Just one more thing Mr Trump -

why won't you release the full, unredacted Epstein files?






                                 "Columbo's asking questions"

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 27th, 2025 at 6:16pm

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 27th, 2025 at 6:18pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 6:16pm:


Clinton can't release the unredacted Epstein files - he's a private citizen.

It's up to Trump.

Why won't he release them?


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Apr 27th, 2025 at 9:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:42pm:
So Bobby who do you think protected Epstien, do you even have a clue?.


We know exactly who killed him.


a.  Who did?

b.  Who suicided this witness?

c.  What happened to the others?

I'm watching the ABC program of the 'ASIO guy' infiltrating Muslim extremists... that guy has to be an actor - no way the real guy would be on national TV... IF this is a real story....

This needs looking into.... it's linking pretty much every incident all into one set...... hmmmm ... and if all those guys are so bad - why are they not 'fitted up' and deported etc?

Gondwanamo Bay, anyone?  A little rendition?

Later:-  I, Burgess - bureaucrat ...comments.

Too much security breach here to be for real - and this guy will never come back.

......................(conspicuous lack of comment on other things) ......................................


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 27th, 2025 at 11:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 6:18pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 6:16pm:


Clinton can't release the unredacted Epstein files - he's a private citizen.

It's up to Trump.

Why won't he release them?


You have already been checkmated on this issue Greg, you have no answer to why Biden did not release the information. If you can't answer that question then you have nothing, zilch, zero, nada.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 28th, 2025 at 6:50am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:59pm:
Just one more thing Mr Trump -

why won't you release the full, unredacted Epstein files?


We all know the answer to that question.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by MeisterEckhart on Apr 28th, 2025 at 8:10am
Given where she was living, an isolated area but still close to a major city, she was likely being protected by Australian operatives from any attempt to murder her by whoever...

Given also that any kind of harm that she could have suffered would have been blowback on Prince Andrew (as her suicide will be now), Britain's security services would have worked with Australia's to ensure her security and protection.

Even the US would not have been trustworthy enough to ensure her safety, given the degree of information she likely had on the highest-ranked US politicians and others.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by John Smith on Apr 28th, 2025 at 8:34am

Leroy wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 11:18pm:
You have already been checkmated on this issue Greg, you have no answer to why Biden did not release the information. If you can't answer that question then you have nothing, zilch, zero, nada.


you're not even playing the same game. .. Biden is irrelevant now so the only checkmate is to your brain

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 28th, 2025 at 8:35am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 6:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:59pm:
Just one more thing Mr Trump -

why won't you release the full, unredacted Epstein files?


We all know the answer to that question.



Columbo is on to it - no escape now.   ;)

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 28th, 2025 at 8:37am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRWRCQ-d2jg

He really doesn't know   ;)

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by John Smith on Apr 28th, 2025 at 8:38am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 6:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2025 at 5:59pm:
Just one more thing Mr Trump -

why won't you release the full, unredacted Epstein files?


We all know the answer to that question.


Do you think cutting our tariffs will be the payment for a job well done?

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by MeisterEckhart on Apr 28th, 2025 at 9:54am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 8:10am:
Given where she was living, an isolated area but still close to a major city, she was likely being protected by Australian operatives from any attempt to murder her by whoever...

Given also that any kind of harm that she could have suffered would have been blowback on Prince Andrew (as her suicide will be now), Britain's security services would have worked with Australia's to ensure her security and protection.

Even the US would not have been trustworthy enough to ensure her safety, given the degree of information she likely had on the highest-ranked US politicians and others.

With WA Police not treating her death as suspicious, Giuffre was likely unstable, and the isolation of WA, relative to her early life, tipped her over the edge.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 28th, 2025 at 9:54am
Too many "suicides"  after knowing too much about Epstein's island.   


https://www.rt.com/news/590246-russian-model-suicide-epstein/


8 Jan, 2024

Russian model who visited ‘Epstein island’ committed suicide





The young beauty was listed on a 2006 flight along with the infamous billionaire
Russian model who visited ‘Epstein island’ committed suicide

Ruslana Korshunova, a Kazakhstan-born Russian top model who jumped to her death from her Manhattan apartment in 2008, visited Jeffrey Epstein’s notorious ‘pedophile island’ when she was just 18, newly unsealed court documents have revealed.

Korshunova, who featured in ads for Marc Jacobs, DKNY, and Nina Ricci, was flown on the billionaire’s private jet – known as the ‘Lolita Express’ – on June 7, 2006, two years before her apparent suicide, the Daily Mail reports, citing flight logs.

Epstein, who is known for sexually exploiting underage girls on his private island, Little St. James, in the US Virgin Islands, was also listed on the same flight along with five other people. He was charged with multiple counts of unlawful sex with a minor just a month before the trip and was arrested in July 2006 on a single count of soliciting prostitution, a relatively minor charge that some criticized as special treatment.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by MeisterEckhart on Apr 28th, 2025 at 9:57am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 9:54am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 8:10am:
Given where she was living, an isolated area but still close to a major city, she was likely being protected by Australian operatives from any attempt to murder her by whoever...

Given also that any kind of harm that she could have suffered would have been blowback on Prince Andrew (as her suicide will be now), Britain's security services would have worked with Australia's to ensure her security and protection.

Even the US would not have been trustworthy enough to ensure her safety, given the degree of information she likely had on the highest-ranked US politicians and others.

With WA Police not treating her death as suspicious, Giuffre was likely unstable, and the isolation of WA, relative to her early life, tipped her over the edge.

Or did the US president's private army, the CIA, get to her anyway, despite Australian and British intelligence services' protection?

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Sophia on Apr 28th, 2025 at 3:44pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 9:57am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 9:54am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 8:10am:
Given where she was living, an isolated area but still close to a major city, she was likely being protected by Australian operatives from any attempt to murder her by whoever...

Given also that any kind of harm that she could have suffered would have been blowback on Prince Andrew (as her suicide will be now), Britain's security services would have worked with Australia's to ensure her security and protection.

Even the US would not have been trustworthy enough to ensure her safety, given the degree of information she likely had on the highest-ranked US politicians and others.

With WA Police not treating her death as suspicious, Giuffre was likely unstable, and the isolation of WA, relative to her early life, tipped her over the edge.

Or did the US president's private army, the CIA, get to her anyway, despite Australian and British intelligence services' protection?


When driving on the road…. it’s all open season… no protection from an “accident”….
And this second “car accident” since January….
Her body would barely be healing from one, let alone 2 accidents where both of these car accidents were not little bumps.
Pain meds she would be on, probably oxycodone.


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Sophia on Apr 28th, 2025 at 3:49pm
Australian activist Grace Tame suggests Virginia Giuffre's death may not have been suicide, amid tributes for Prince Andrew accuser

https://www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/australian-activist-grace-tame-suggests-virginia-giuffres-death-may-not-have-been-suicide-amid-tributes-for-prince-andrew-accuser/news-story/d97e4c1ec9ff4a0667d90c6cbe398fb3

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 28th, 2025 at 3:52pm

Sophia wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 3:49pm:
Australian activist Grace Tame suggests Virginia Giuffre's death may not have been suicide, amid tributes for Prince Andrew accuser

https://www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/australian-activist-grace-tame-suggests-virginia-giuffres-death-may-not-have-been-suicide-amid-tributes-for-prince-andrew-accuser/news-story/d97e4c1ec9ff4a0667d90c6cbe398fb3


"I am making it publicly known that in no way, shape or form am I suicidal," the mother-of-three wrote on X at the time.

"I have made this known to my therapist and GP. If something happens to me-  in the sake of my family do not let this go away and help me to protect them.

"Too many evil people want to see me quieted."

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 28th, 2025 at 4:47pm
What a stupid insensitive and disgusting woman this Grace Tame is. If she has information then she should pass it onto the authorities. But when you don't know anything and you make stupid claims it only has the potential to upset the family. She is basically calling the family liars after they reported that it was suicide and if she does have more information than the family she should at least give them the respect they deserve and not use it to get her own 15 minutes of fame. Putting the family through this just to get clicks is revolting and the police should raid her home and question her on what information she has.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Apr 28th, 2025 at 5:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 9:54am:
Too many "suicides"  after knowing too much about Epstein's island.   


https://www.rt.com/news/590246-russian-model-suicide-epstein/


8 Jan, 2024

Russian model who visited ‘Epstein island’ committed suicide





The young beauty was listed on a 2006 flight along with the infamous billionaire
Russian model who visited ‘Epstein island’ committed suicide

Ruslana Korshunova, a Kazakhstan-born Russian top model who jumped to her death from her Manhattan apartment in 2008, visited Jeffrey Epstein’s notorious ‘pedophile island’ when she was just 18, newly unsealed court documents have revealed.

Korshunova, who featured in ads for Marc Jacobs, DKNY, and Nina Ricci, was flown on the billionaire’s private jet – known as the ‘Lolita Express’ – on June 7, 2006, two years before her apparent suicide, the Daily Mail reports, citing flight logs.

Epstein, who is known for sexually exploiting underage girls on his private island, Little St. James, in the US Virgin Islands, was also listed on the same flight along with five other people. He was charged with multiple counts of unlawful sex with a minor just a month before the trip and was arrested in July 2006 on a single count of soliciting prostitution, a relatively minor charge that some criticized as special treatment.


This one's edgy - it's too easy to fake a suicide by a leaper...  Bulgarians were known for it - throwing dissidents out of a window - defenestration... we've had cases in Australia...

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Apr 28th, 2025 at 5:24pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 8:10am:
Given where she was living, an isolated area but still close to a major city, she was likely being protected by Australian operatives from any attempt to murder her by whoever...

Given also that any kind of harm that she could have suffered would have been blowback on Prince Andrew (as her suicide will be now), Britain's security services would have worked with Australia's to ensure her security and protection.

Even the US would not have been trustworthy enough to ensure her safety, given the degree of information she likely had on the highest-ranked US politicians and others.


Now why would Australian security services (public) be protecting her?  To protect Prince Andrew?  I doubt they'd be thinking that much of a chess game about her.

Information?  Maybe she did - maybe she didn't.  It's not like she was a trusted office insider ..... and Trump apparently broke off connections with Einstein before her time.. long time ago ...

Pussygate.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Sophia on Apr 28th, 2025 at 7:11pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 4:47pm:
What a stupid insensitive and disgusting woman this Grace Tame is. If she has information then she should pass it onto the authorities. But when you don't know anything and you make stupid claims it only has the potential to upset the family. She is basically calling the family liars after they reported that it was suicide and if she does have more information than the family she should at least give them the respect they deserve and not use it to get her own 15 minutes of fame. Putting the family through this just to get clicks is revolting and the police should raid her home and question her on what information she has.


Here’s what is insensitive and disgusting….touted as disturbing by media.
Prince A for arsehole’s ex lady friend….

https://7news.com.au/news/prince-andrews-ex-lady-hervey-under-fire-for-disturbing-comments-after-virginia-giuffres-suicide-c-18501189

Grace Tame backed up her statement from what Virginia had written so adamantly re: suicide.




Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by aquascoot on Apr 28th, 2025 at 7:31pm
She certainly slept with Bill.

One could google the name foster
Clinton's white house counsel who was found to have shot himself in the head.
He was apparently going to blow the whistle on Clinton's shady whitewater scam

The FBI concluded the suicide note cut into 27 pieces was not written in fosters handwriting

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by aquascoot on Apr 28th, 2025 at 7:33pm
Oh and foster was having an affair with hilary ::)

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 28th, 2025 at 7:48pm

Sophia wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 7:11pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 4:47pm:
What a stupid insensitive and disgusting woman this Grace Tame is. If she has information then she should pass it onto the authorities. But when you don't know anything and you make stupid claims it only has the potential to upset the family. She is basically calling the family liars after they reported that it was suicide and if she does have more information than the family she should at least give them the respect they deserve and not use it to get her own 15 minutes of fame. Putting the family through this just to get clicks is revolting and the police should raid her home and question her on what information she has.


Here’s what is insensitive and disgusting….touted as disturbing by media.
Prince A for arsehole’s ex lady friend….

https://7news.com.au/news/prince-andrews-ex-lady-hervey-under-fire-for-disturbing-comments-after-virginia-giuffres-suicide-c-18501189

Grace Tame backed up her statement from what Virginia had written so adamantly re: suicide.



Do you think that her family would have already known that Sophia, they have released a statement that it was suicide. Is it right that this woman who has nothing to add to the known facts is now casting shade on their integrity?.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Bobby. on Apr 28th, 2025 at 8:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 9:54am:
Too many "suicides"  after knowing too much about Epstein's island.   


https://www.rt.com/news/590246-russian-model-suicide-epstein/


8 Jan, 2024

Russian model who visited ‘Epstein island’ committed suicide



And there are more:

Epstein died by suicide,
Jean-Luc Brunel suicide,
Alfredo Rodrigues, died of mesothelioma.
Marvin Minsky,
John Connolly,

details here:
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/virginia-giuffre-dies-by-suicide-at-41-full-list-of-people-linked-to-epstein-files-who-are-dead/articleshow/120637687.cms

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Sophia on Apr 28th, 2025 at 11:17pm
What they say, an abused female seems to find an abusive partner?

I had no idea Virginia went through that.  :-[ A dv with her ex-husband.
So….she lived or was alone at her isolated place particularly the night she died?

Story here.

https://www.thecut.com/article/virginia-giuffre-says-husband-abused-her-epstein.html


Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 28th, 2025 at 11:26pm

Sophia wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 11:17pm:
What they say, an abused female seems to find an abusive partner?

I had no idea Virginia went through that.  :-[ A dv with her ex-husband.
So….she lived or was alone at her isolated place particularly the night she died?

Story here.

https://www.thecut.com/article/virginia-giuffre-says-husband-abused-her-epstein.html


Obviously more to the story, he was not charged and he put a restraining order on her. May she rest in peace.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Grappler Truth Teller on Apr 28th, 2025 at 11:49pm

Sophia wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 11:17pm:
What they say, an abused female seems to find an abusive partner?

I had no idea Virginia went through that.  :-[ A dv with her ex-husband.
So….she lived or was alone at her isolated place particularly the night she died?

Story here.

https://www.thecut.com/article/virginia-giuffre-says-husband-abused-her-epstein.html


Some - not all - live within the victim, oppressor, saviour cycle... no matter their situation, they will always play the victim - you actually see a lot of that these days now that is is 'acceptable' for women to be victims all the time and for governments to use that as a political too as they so clearly do.

Did she - for example - write a book or something about her experiences - something that might shed light on why she was into Epstein Tours at all etc?  What was the motivation for a number of young girls to actively participate in what they had to know was sex romps..  There have been tales of money... so young and malleable girls paid to take part and have a holiday - they might think nothing of it... might as well get something out of it.

Any thoughts, Sophia?  I thought this was all gone and forgotten.... now it's a major conspiracy theory.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Sophia on Apr 29th, 2025 at 12:18am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 11:49pm:

Sophia wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 11:17pm:
What they say, an abused female seems to find an abusive partner?

I had no idea Virginia went through that.  :-[ A dv with her ex-husband.
So….she lived or was alone at her isolated place particularly the night she died?

Story here.

https://www.thecut.com/article/virginia-giuffre-says-husband-abused-her-epstein.html


Some - not all - live within the victim, oppressor, saviour cycle... no matter their situation, they will always play the victim - you actually see a lot of that these days now that is is 'acceptable' for women to be victims all the time and for governments to use that as a political too as they so clearly do.

Did she - for example - write a book or something about her experiences - something that might shed light on why she was into Epstein Tours at all etc?  What was the motivation for a number of young girls to actively participate in what they had to know was sex romps..  There have been tales of money... so young and malleable girls paid to take part and have a holiday - they might think nothing of it... might as well get something out of it.

Any thoughts, Sophia?  I thought this was all gone and forgotten.... now it's a major conspiracy theory.


First I will give my feelings about it. It truly is a very sad, tragic life and ending… so young (my daughter’s age).
Second, teen girls are hard to manage. They want to be independent, be worldly and have fun.
There’s nothing wrong with that.
But they need the security of family to fall back on.
From what I recall, some of these girls that the scout (whatshername in jail) seek to find those that are a bit abused already as young teens, feel dejected and are ripe for the picking.
“oh you look beautiful, I can help you do modelling or… I can get you a massage job” etc
It’s music to a young girls ears.

As for the grown up men flocking to these places, knowing full well they are underage, well why are they all cowering now? Why not expose the reports?
Prince A for arsehole was warned by the elder royal adviser to not associate with Epstein.
Well we know how that went south for him, no more royal titles.
So my thoughts are… brainwashed underage teens promised some bright future and grown up much older men… taking advantage. Not good.  Funny I remember Trumpet Man sniffing around Epstein saying “I like them young” … (cringeworthy stuff)

I’m glad Virginia did the good fight to expose much…. may she RIP.





Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by SerialBrain9 on Apr 29th, 2025 at 6:50am

Quote:
Julia Bryant:
My name is Julia Bryant, and I live in Cape Town, South Africa. I was kidnapped by Jeffrey Epstein 20 years ago. I am not suicidal, and I never, ever will be. I also do not do any drugs. I met Epstein when he was in Africa with Bill Clinton. We all know about the Clinton body count.

Another concerning fact is that one of the main women — a very brave angel, Caroline — who testified against Ghislaine Maxwell, was found dead six months ago. It wasn’t in the media until a few days ago. The only reason it was put in the media was because of a very, very brave Epstein victim — she doesn’t want to be named. But there are other Epstein victims who’ve also died suspiciously.

Caroline was a beautiful, amazing, brave woman who planned a life on a chicken farm with her family. Instead, she was found dead in a hotel room.

I want to speak out for safety and for other victims, because it’s very frightening when the victims’ stories won’t… I mean, when the media won’t cover any of the victims’ stories. A lot of my story hasn’t been told in the media, and it’s the same with a lot of other victims.

And we actually all feel quite frightened with everything that’s been going on. As we know, this is not the first suspicious death related to the evil Maxwell empire. They also used to run the media — maybe that’s why victims’ stories are not being told to the public, and the victims of Epstein feel very frightened.


An interesting X page if you want to know what SOME of what Epstein was up to …

https://x.com/juliettebryant/status/1916958487973613573?s=61&t=pr9sQbfDnRXI42Hsv2j5ag

I wish these women wouldn’t take “PayOffs” and sign NDAs..

They are their own worst enemies and betray others who have been abused…

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Sophia on Apr 29th, 2025 at 9:57am
I’m sure Prince A can stop sweating now. And besides, it all happened when he was in a pizza shop!
Virginia survives a bus crash (it wasn’t in a tunnel was it?) then commits suicide… was there the word “assisted” omitted?
She lived on her own, her ex with a DV found her late at night????
Oh and I found out she did get a $22 million settlement from Prince A as a gesture towards abuse victims of underage sex trafficking.
Cleverly phrased for a payout with not having to admit anything.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 29th, 2025 at 10:02am

Sophia wrote on Apr 29th, 2025 at 9:57am:
I’m sure Prince A can stop sweating now. And besides, it all happened when he was in a pizza shop!
Virginia survives a bus crash (it wasn’t in a tunnel was it?) then commits suicide… was there the word “assisted” omitted?
She lived on her own, her ex with a DV found her late at night????
Oh and I found out she did get a $22 million settlement from Prince A as a gesture towards abuse victims of underage sex trafficking.
Cleverly phrased for a payout with not having to admit anything.


You know she has family right.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by MeisterEckhart on Apr 29th, 2025 at 10:07am
What is an American, who became accustomed to the high life and the energy of world cities, doing in an isolated region of Western Australia?

Did she choose this region to relocate? Was it suggested to her by British security agencies?

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 29th, 2025 at 10:20am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29th, 2025 at 10:07am:
What is an American, who became accustomed to the high life and the energy of world cities, doing in an isolated region of Western Australia?

Did she choose this region to relocate? Was it suggested to her by British security agencies?


She chose Perth after visiting she fell in love with WA.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Gnads on Apr 29th, 2025 at 10:25am

Sophia wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 3:49pm:
Australian activist Grace Tame suggests Virginia Giuffre's death may not have been suicide, amid tributes for Prince Andrew accuser

https://www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/australian-activist-grace-tame-suggests-virginia-giuffres-death-may-not-have-been-suicide-amid-tributes-for-prince-andrew-accuser/news-story/d97e4c1ec9ff4a0667d90c6cbe398fb3


No time for Grace Tame.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Gnads on Apr 29th, 2025 at 10:31am

Sophia wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 7:11pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 4:47pm:
What a stupid insensitive and disgusting woman this Grace Tame is. If she has information then she should pass it onto the authorities. But when you don't know anything and you make stupid claims it only has the potential to upset the family. She is basically calling the family liars after they reported that it was suicide and if she does have more information than the family she should at least give them the respect they deserve and not use it to get her own 15 minutes of fame. Putting the family through this just to get clicks is revolting and the police should raid her home and question her on what information she has.


Here’s what is insensitive and disgusting….touted as disturbing by media.
Prince A for arsehole’s ex lady friend….

https://7news.com.au/news/prince-andrews-ex-lady-hervey-under-fire-for-disturbing-comments-after-virginia-giuffres-suicide-c-18501189

Grace Tame backed up her statement from what Virginia had written so adamantly re: suicide.


Sorry Sophia but Grace Tame didn't back anything up - she made an off the cuff remark - "been killed?" or some such.

She has as much idea as the rest of us here in speculating.

She shouldn't be getting any publicity surrounding Virginia Guiffres death.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Gnads on Apr 29th, 2025 at 10:33am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 7:33pm:
Oh and foster was having an affair with hilary ::)


Did he have a Labrador and white cane?

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Leroy on Apr 29th, 2025 at 10:41am

Gnads wrote on Apr 29th, 2025 at 10:33am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 7:33pm:
Oh and foster was having an affair with hilary ::)


Did he have a Labrador and white cane?


Lost a bet.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Gnads on Apr 29th, 2025 at 10:42am
What is or seems to be very pertinent is the number of people who have ever had dealings with the Clintons - & things haven't gone how Bill or Hilary wanted - the body count grows higher.

Title: Re: Another Epstein witness dies:
Post by Sophia on Apr 29th, 2025 at 3:59pm

Gnads wrote on Apr 29th, 2025 at 10:42am:
What is or seems to be very pertinent is the number of people who have ever had dealings with the Clintons - & things haven't gone how Bill or Hilary wanted - the body count grows higher.


It’s scary. Run Forest run!

What’s sadly interesting was the note Foster wrote that was found in his briefcase.

Foster was prescribed the anti-depressant medication trazodone over the phone by his Arkansas doctor, starting with a low initial dosage. The next day, Foster was found dead in Fort Marcy Park, a federal park in Virginia. He was 48 years old. An autopsy determined that he was shot in the mouth and no other wounds were found on his body.
A draft resignation letter was found torn into 27 pieces in his briefcase. The letter contained a list of grievances, including, "The WSJ editors lie without consequence and saying, "I was not meant for the job or the spotlight of public life in Washington. Here ruining people is considered sport."

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